[osol-discuss] List of OpenSolaris variant ... Re: Menhir a distro for OpenSolaris plus Linux, FreeBSD and NetBSD
On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 22:16, Gueven Bay wrote: Dear OpenSolaris community, With this post I started the work on Menhir. Menhir is a source based distribution of 4 free operating systems: Slackware, FreeBSD, NetBSD and OpenSolaris. Hi all, is there a site, which positioned for exposure of all distros being developed based on OpenSolaris ? So we can have list of them, like Belenix, Menhir etc ... Best regards, Eko Budhi S ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] About JES open source (When, any news)
Hello, I am sorry maybe this is not right question for this forum, but I want to know if there is any information when Sun Microsystems will or plan to open source Java Enterprise System? Which parts will be open sourced? Regards, Girts This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] FlashPlayer 9 on SXDE on Laptop...It's Been a Long Time Coming!
However, I am still unable to play video on Foxnews.com. It appears that, to view foxnews.com video, I have to: 1. install the greasemonkey add-on: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/748 ; and 2. install the FoxNews Friendly Video script: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/1371 SXDE is getting very close to becoming the most comfortable OS for business desktops and notebooks--all things considered. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Laptop bargain hunting experience and specs write-up
wound up getting the Compaq Presario T2080 (with Atheros wireless ) at Best Buy. What I did get a chance to do though was download and fire up Nevada b67 via the BeleniX 0.6.1 LiveCD (also, I stuck with Xfce and the Realtek ethernet NIC for now) and everything, including LAN/WAN/DHCP discovery worked great! Eric 1. Over the years, we have been quite fond of Athlon-based (both 32- and 64-bit) HP notebooks. Since about one year or so ago, we have not had any problem running Solaris Express on any of our HP notebooks. The only problem is wireless. Next time around we will be paying attention to getting only those with Atheros card. All our notebooks are with ATI or nVidia video card. 2. On one of the notebooks we tested, with Casper's frkit script running, the power consumption measured with a Wattmeter was 14 W for Solaris Express, versus 18~19 W for Linux (SuSE/Fedora) and WindowsXP, during idle. 3. Linux (SuSE/Ubuntu/Fedora) has problems with some of the models, and I don't trust Windows when browsing the web. This leaves Solaris Express the only option. 4. During this year's Computex Taipei, one of the most appealing products was the Asus Eee PC 701 notebook: http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=3829 * Display: 7 * Processor: Intel mobile CPU (Intel 910 chipset, 900MHz Dothan Pentium M) * Memory: 512MB RAM * OS: Linux (Asus customized flavor) * Storage: 8GB or 16GB flash hard drive * Webcam: 300K pixel video camera * Battery life: 3 hours using 4-cell battery * Weight: 2lbs * Dimensions: 8.9 in x 6.5 in x 0.82 in - 1.37 in (width x depth x thickness) * Ports: 3 USB ports, 1 VGA out, SD card reader, modem, Ethernet, head/microphone * Bootup time: 10 seconds * Price: $250 Even though the hardware design is ugly and the software (Asus' own version of Linux) is IMNSHO stupid (apparently Asus didn't use their best engineers to put together their own Linux distro), I am definitely going to get one when it becomes available. But this is not my point. My point is, perhaps we can try to work with Asus to design a better, Solaris-based, system (at least on the software part). Most hardware manufactures don't have a clue how to deal with GPL, I believe they will feel more comfortable with CDDL once properly educated. Plus, (paid) support for desktops (which necessitates low per-unit cost) is always illusory in Linux. Solaris/Sun should be in a much better position to address this critical issue. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Open Sound System - Dev Mazumdar
Yes, I was planning to ask Dev first. I have not had a chance to speak with him yet. Anyone has an idea on how many visitors might turn up to hear Dev if we open it up to everyone? I was thinking of two events - one for BOSUG (smaller and more personal). Second with BLUG which is for a larger audience. ~Joe Hi Joe, I have spoken with Sanjay Pandit and he told me about BOSUG and I would be very honored and happy to talk about audio and Open Sound with the BOSUG. Kindly email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] to discuss the agenda and dates. best regards Dev Mazumdar This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Mounting NTFS troublesome?
bash-3.00# ntfsls /dev/dsk/c1d1p1 Emulators RECYCLER Docs DoNOTshare INCOMING Misc MP3 Music pagefile.sys Programs System Volume Information treeinfo.wc I have tried with root. My problem is the syntax of the command ntfscp. If you could give me an example of the syntax, I would be grateful. bash-3.00# ntfscp /dev/dsk/c1d1p1 treeinfo.wc . ERROR: Couldn't stat source file : No such file or directory As I understand it, I should not mount the ntfs partition. How do I specify a mount point/file then? That is my problem! This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Mounting NTFS troublesome?
Ok, I tried to copy large ntfs files ~3GB with Samba, and it worked. Thanx for your solution! This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] FlashPlayer 9 on SXDE on Laptop...It's Been a Long Time Coming!
On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 01:05 -0700, W. Wayne Liauh wrote: However, I am still unable to play video on Foxnews.com. It appears that, to view foxnews.com video, I have to: 1. install the greasemonkey add-on: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/748 ; and 2. install the FoxNews Friendly Video script: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/1371 SXDE is getting very close to becoming the most comfortable OS for business desktops and notebooks--all things considered. *snicker* don't mind, force of habit being a lefty. The new power management in B70 should also make it a nice platform for university - I like sitting in the cafe doing some study without seeing my battery drop like a rock. Matthew ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] What is the package managemnet software on solaris?
Which leads to the interesting question why OpenSolaris doesn't take pkg-get. Or apt-get. Or rpm. Ok, wrong question. Not invented by SUN engineers ... There are better, more robust and more intelligent software subsystems available than Debian's DPKG or RedHat's RPM format, which makes dpkg and rpm suboptimal choices for Solaris resp. OpenSolaris. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] FlashPlayer 9 on SXDE on Laptop...It's Been a Long Time Coming!
However, SXDE comes only on DVD. I have tried 3 different DVD readers and no Solaris version will boot. Several of my students reported the same, Solaris DVD wont boot. We had to resort to Solaris on CD. And, SXDE doesnt exist on CD. There are several old computers that only allows boot from CD. I wish SXDE could be released on CD as well, but there seems to be a limitation and therefore it can not be released on CD. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] What is the package managemnet software on solaris?
UNIX admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which leads to the interesting question why OpenSolaris doesn't take pkg-get. Or apt-get. Or rpm. Ok, wrong question. Not invented by SUN engineers ... There are better, more robust and more intelligent software subsystems available than Debian's DPKG or RedHat's RPM format, which makes dpkg and rpm suboptimal choices for Solaris resp. OpenSolaris. pkgadd has been invented by ATT engineers. It still implements a lot of things rpm and dpkg are missing. We would need a few additional features only to make pkgadd better with respect to any feature. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [nwam-discuss] 2 wireless nics confuses NWAM
Dick Davies wrote: On 16/07/07, Darren J Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dick Davies wrote: 1. Ubuntu on the same machine (and WLANs) presents a list like this: ipw0 (Intel Centrino .) -- Granny Smith (WEP) -- BT Voyager (WPA) -- mywlan (WPA) ath0 (Atheros .) -- Granny Smith (WEP) -- BT Voyager (WPA) -- mywlan (WPA) whereas the Solaris dialog doesn't specify which NIC it's using. Would that make sense? Why should an end user actually care what the name of the NIC is ? Because one of the cards might be a) slower or b) non-WPA aware. but do you need to know about the different NICs or do you need NWAM to do the sensible thing and present a merged listed ? If the correct think had happened would you actually be asking this at all ? Why is it interesting for the user to know and more importantly for a non advanced user how does ipw0 and ath0 tell them one is the built in thingy and the other the add in thingy ? Think more automagic :-) -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] NO disk found problem while installing Solaris 10
maybe this helps: http://opensolaris.mynoteb00k.com/basics/installation/opensolaris-installation/ This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Mounting NTFS troublesome?
I can use ntfscp to copy TO ntfs. A file with the file name I want copy to ntfs, must also already reside there on the ntfs. ntfscp merely over writes an existing file on ntfs. I can not create a new file on ntfs. This works fine: bash-3.00# ntfscp /dev/dsk/c1d1p1 /export/home/sean/notes.doc treeinfo.wc But I dont succeed copying FROM ntfs to ufs. bash-3.00# ntfscp /dev/dsk/c1d1p1 treeinfo.doc /export/home/sean/asdf.d ERROR: Couldn't stat source file : No such file or directory Have I misunderstood ntfscp, or is this the way it should be used? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [nwam-discuss] 2 wireless nics confuses NWAM
On 17/07/07, Darren J Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dick Davies wrote: Why should an end user actually care what the name of the NIC is ? Because one of the cards might be a) slower or b) non-WPA aware. but do you need to know about the different NICs or do you need NWAM to do the sensible thing and present a merged listed ? If the correct thing had happened would you actually be asking this at all ? Why is it interesting for the user to know and more importantly for a non advanced user how does ipw0 and ath0 tell them one is the built in thingy and the other the add in thingy ? I don't see a downside to listing 'WLANs per NIC' , but I think I'm really asking for NWAM to be aware of multiple NICs (and try to fallback to another if one is repeatedly faling). I sort of figured we could hassle the user in the meantime, since that's only a small tweak. Think more automagic :-) I am. Black magic :) Thanks. -- Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns http://number9.hellooperator.net/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] I can't Install SOLARIS 10!!!!!!
Hello, I have this problem. I boot from the installation DVD and when i select my Video hardware (wich is in the list) everything goes wrong. Is like when you select a resolution that is not supported by the Monitor. Well that happen. The rare thing is that the monitor is in the list and the Video hardware too. So i don't understand why it does that. Please help me with these. By the way everyone tells me to change windows for linux or solaris but why is so difficult to install anyone of those. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Open Sound System - Dev Mazumdar
Hi Joe, I have spoken with Sanjay Pandit and he told me about BOSUG and I would be very honored and happy to talk about audio and Open Sound with the BOSUG. Kindly email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] to discuss the agenda and dates. Is there an eta on when OpenSound is going to merge with Solaris? right now I can't record anything on my Solaris machine - the microphone (internal) isn't picking up anything - I assume it has to do with the lack of integration between GNOME and OpenSound. Matthew ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] What is the package managemnet software on solaris?
On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 04:25 -0700, Nicolas Linkert wrote: Which leads to the interesting question why OpenSolaris doesn't take pkg-get. Or apt-get. Or rpm. Ok, wrong question. Not invented by SUN engineers ... This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org apt-get merely sits ontop of debian packages - nothing stopping anyone (or you for that matter) to implement apt-get for SVR5 pkg's. Matthew ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] FlashPlayer 9 on SXDE on Laptop...It's Been a Long Time Coming!
On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 05:14 -0700, Orvar Korvar wrote: However, SXDE comes only on DVD. I have tried 3 different DVD readers and no Solaris version will boot. Several of my students reported the same, Solaris DVD wont boot. We had to resort to Solaris on CD. And, SXDE doesnt exist on CD. There are several old computers that only allows boot from CD. I wish SXDE could be released on CD as well, but there seems to be a limitation and therefore it can not be released on CD. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org One suggests downloading and installing the cd version of SXCE - SXDE is merely SXCE + development tools. Matthew ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [nwam-discuss] 2 wireless nics confuses NWAM
On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 13:31 +0100, Darren J Moffat wrote: Dick Davies wrote: On 16/07/07, Darren J Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dick Davies wrote: 1. Ubuntu on the same machine (and WLANs) presents a list like this: ipw0 (Intel Centrino .) -- Granny Smith (WEP) -- BT Voyager (WPA) -- mywlan (WPA) ath0 (Atheros .) -- Granny Smith (WEP) -- BT Voyager (WPA) -- mywlan (WPA) whereas the Solaris dialog doesn't specify which NIC it's using. Would that make sense? Why should an end user actually care what the name of the NIC is ? Because one of the cards might be a) slower or b) non-WPA aware. but do you need to know about the different NICs or do you need NWAM to do the sensible thing and present a merged listed ? If the correct think had happened would you actually be asking this at all ? Why is it interesting for the user to know and more importantly for a non advanced user how does ipw0 and ath0 tell them one is the built in thingy and the other the add in thingy ? One can ask - if you (no specifically you, as in you) own a laptop and you don't know the basic specs of your laptop, maybe the best location for the laptop is in the original box it came in. Worse case, wpi0 - built in ath1 - PCMCIA card or somthing to that affect. Side not, when is wpa support going to arrive in wpi? Matthew ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [nwam-discuss] 2 wireless nics confuses NWAM
Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: One can ask - if you (no specifically you, as in you) own a laptop and you don't know the basic specs of your laptop, maybe the best location for the laptop is in the original box it came in. I very very very very strongly disagree with that, not all users are techies and one of the main reasons for doing projects like NWAM and building GUIs is to keep it simple and have the computer do the correct thing as much as it can. Particularly since the driver names themselves don't give any indication of how something is connected and nwamd can't easily find that out (in some cases it might not actually be possible to do this accurately). The stance that all users should know every bit of hardware and what driver drives it is not helpful to adoption and reeks of elitism. -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] FlashPlayer 9 on SXDE on Laptop...It's Been a Long Time Coming!
As I understood it, SXDE contains lots of development tools? Of course I could download all those seperately, but I would save lots of time if all those were installed right away. Configuring all and so on takes time. Figure out the dependencies and so on. Setting it all up correctly. You could download and install Oracle DB, but it would save time and work if someone else did it for you - i.e. if it came on the DVD, just as development tools. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] FlashPlayer 9 on SXDE on Laptop...It's Been a Long Time Coming!
On 17/07/07, Kaiwai Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The new power management in B70 should also make it a nice platform for university - I like sitting in the cafe doing some study without seeing my battery drop like a rock. That's interesting - is that the 'frkit/power management' packages ( from http://opensolaris.org/os/community/laptop/ ) or something else? For me it's powernow rather that battery management - I prefer a dead laptop to a scorched lap :) -- Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns http://number9.hellooperator.net/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Menhir a distro for OpenSolaris plus Linux, FreeBSD and NetBSD
Again I thank everyone for their comments as they helped me to come to the final design of the Menhir distribution project. I have written something like a press release. I want to post it here so you can know in which direction Menhir goes. ***Begin Menhir was started to grow the publicity of FreeBSD, NetBSD and OpenSolaris side by side with Slackware. And to widen the skills of the users to all four operating systems. If you look at the Free Software scene you see that most if not all projects - at the operating system level and at the application level - and magazines, blogs and newspapers concentrate on GNU/Linux. Also you can note that most people start with a Linux distribution and then lock himself in the GNU/Linux world. This is very unfortunate as the other free Unix-like operating systems bring with them great development and usage culture. The one missing bit at their side is popularity. So Menhir is going to reach the above vision by building a strong, open and helpful community to cultivate and distribute the knowledge about all four, free operating systems. Because in the free software scene the popularity of projects grow by propaganda. And propaganda is spread by experienced users and developers who will be fully satisfied by the operating systems because of their successes basing on their experience. To build the knowledge following development projects are started in the Menhir project: * A document based on BSD Associate Exam Objectives will be written which guides every user in the use and administration of FreeBSD, NetBSD, Slackware and OpenSolaris. * A document based on Advanced Linux Programming will be written which teaches the advanced devlopment on the four platforms. * The base systems of Slackware, FreeBSD, NetBSD and OpenSolaris are ported to the pkgsrc format. After finishing this project everyone will be able to install the operating systems with their userland using the pkgsrc tools. * A collection of kernel configuration files for desktops, laptops and servers. You get insight in the structure and building of the kernel if you configure and compile your own for your hardware. So at the website of Menhir we will collect configuration files for the hardware of the big hardware vendors. * A structured manual for the engineer-like construction and installation of an infrastructure basing on the four operating systems. With all four operating systems you can perfectly build networks for home and professional use. This manual called Free Software Systems Engineering will guide you in the effort to build efficient and secure networks. What we will get in the end is a great collaboration of the developers and users of all todays communities of the four operating systems for a distribution with the priciples: Strength, Dynamics, Knowledge and Freedom. You, dear reader, are invited to join the newsgroup for all your questions, comments and contributions of all sorts. The website of Menhir is : http://code.google.com/p/menhir The newsgroup of Menhir is: http://groups.google.com/group/menhir-discuss ***End So the decision to hold the base systems is no more. Especially I will go with the releases of SXCR and make the tests (the bulk builds of pkgsrc) on every release of it. I am very curious for your comments now. regards Gueven Bay This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Mounting NTFS troublesome?
Orvar Korvar wrote: I can use ntfscp to copy TO ntfs. A file with the file name I want copy to ntfs, must also already reside there on the ntfs. ntfscp merely over writes an existing file on ntfs. I can not create a new file on ntfs. This works fine: bash-3.00# ntfscp /dev/dsk/c1d1p1 /export/home/sean/notes.doc treeinfo.wc But I dont succeed copying FROM ntfs to ufs. bash-3.00# ntfscp /dev/dsk/c1d1p1 treeinfo.doc /export/home/sean/asdf.d ERROR: Couldn't stat source file : No such file or directory Have I misunderstood ntfscp, or is this the way it should be used? From the ntfscp manpage this is the behavior. It will copy a file TO an existing file in ntfs. To copy a file FROM ntfs an alternative would be to use: ntfscat /dev/dsk/cNdNpN somefile someotherfile Regards, Moinak. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] What is the package managemnet software on solaris?
pkgadd has been invented by ATT engineers. This is known to me. It still implements a lot of things rpm and dpkg are missing. That is correct. I've recently done some RPM packaging and RPM is pretty kludgy when it comes to it - packaging is not as straightforward and as simple as it is with System V packaging. Advanced features like class installation scripts seem to be either missing from the design, or poorly documented. We would need a few additional features only to make pkgadd better with respect to any feature. Like I wrote before on several occasions, the biggest technical flaw of System V packaging is that it does not support hierarchical namespaces which would provide for both making package metaclusters a reality, and would make Dennis's wish for unified packaging effort technically feasible. Another subtle but still major flaw is the fact that System V packaging tools aren't capable of automatic cleanup of obsolete delta files; that is simply left as a responsibility of the packager, which means there is no consistent and reliable way to do housekeeping between revisions. These are the things that are seriously hurting me as someone who does packaging day in and day out. I see the elegant and intelligent subsystems in IRIX and HP-UX and then I do Solaris packages, my bread and butter, and I hurt. I happen to know ways around it, but in doing so I'm pushing the System V packaging system to the limit, which can never be a good thing, and will most likely come back to bite me at one point or another. These changes require major surgery on the System V packaging subsystem. Who is going to do such a major undertaking? You? Me? On top of that, we'd have to go through the whole integration cycle, and for something as critical as a software subsystem, we're looking at a year of integration effort - just the bueraucratic part. We haven't even touched on the development effort yet. The ideal thing in my experience would be to contact SGI directly and see if they are willing to either license/opensource or just plain sell their software subsystem, especially if we consider that: a) IRIX has been discountinued, so sgi shouldn't be against giving it up b) IRIX's software subsystem understands and can handle System V packages, and integrates the information into his own software subsystem. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] FlashPlayer 9 on SXDE on Laptop...It's Been a Long Time Coming!
On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 15:10 +0100, Dick Davies wrote: On 17/07/07, Kaiwai Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The new power management in B70 should also make it a nice platform for university - I like sitting in the cafe doing some study without seeing my battery drop like a rock. That's interesting - is that the 'frkit/power management' packages ( from http://opensolaris.org/os/community/laptop/ ) or something else? For me it's powernow rather that battery management - I prefer a dead laptop to a scorched lap :) Everything is working for me here, my fan goes on when things need to cool down etc. The only problem is the lack of frequency scaling which will hopefully allow me to have a longer battery life than what I'm currently experiencing. http://opensolaris.org/os/community/laptop/power/ Only includes things like meters on how long you have left, but doesnt actually manage the power in a way to maximise battery life, such as lowering the frequency when it isn't required to be at maximum speed - for example. Matthew -- Blog: http://kaiwai.blogspot.com ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Open Sound System - Dev Mazumdar
Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: Hi Joe, I have spoken with Sanjay Pandit and he told me about BOSUG and I would be very honored and happy to talk about audio and Open Sound with the BOSUG. Kindly email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] to discuss the agenda and dates. Is there an eta on when OpenSound is going to merge with Solaris? right now I can't record anything on my Solaris machine - the microphone (internal) isn't picking up anything - I assume it has to do with the lack of integration between GNOME and OpenSound. By what kind of audio record software ? audiorecord, or /usr/dt/bin/sdtaudio ? Both should work. Make sure you set the volume/gain correctly. By the way, what kind of driver are you using ? OSS driver or sada driver ? Cheers --Freeman Matthew ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [nwam-discuss] 2 wireless nics confuses NWAM
On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 14:58 +0100, Darren J Moffat wrote: Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: One can ask - if you (no specifically you, as in you) own a laptop and you don't know the basic specs of your laptop, maybe the best location for the laptop is in the original box it came in. I very very very very strongly disagree with that, not all users are techies and one of the main reasons for doing projects like NWAM and building GUIs is to keep it simple and have the computer do the correct thing as much as it can. Particularly since the driver names themselves don't give any indication of how something is connected and nwamd can't easily find that out (in some cases it might not actually be possible to do this accurately). The stance that all users should know every bit of hardware and what driver drives it is not helpful to adoption and reeks of elitism True; don't mind me, bad day at work - surprisingly even after good university results. Hence the solution of having two and stating whether it is 'built in' or PCMCIA slot. Mind you, with that being said, one would assume that if one has a PCMCIA, it is being used for some reason - the built in one doesn't have support features in Solaris - in which case the owner of the laptop would have to two what the built in one actually is. Matthew ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] dladm, aggr1, net-physical error 96 and reboot
Hi Folks, I have seen a number of issues with configuring networking and getting the dreaded error 96... Mine appears to be a bit different. From the default.log of net-physical ifconfig is getting an invalid argument from aggr1 like aggr1 is no longer configed after a reboot (it's a V240). But if I login via the sc card and configure like this everything works fine: dladm delete-aggr1 1 dladm create-aggr -d bge0 -d bge1 -d bge2 -d bge3 1 ifconfig aggr1 plumb ifconfig aggr1 ip netmask ip ifconfig up route add default ip svcadm clear net-physical svcadm disable net-physical svcadm enable net-physical The obvious problem is that I have to do it after ever reboot. I have verified that ipnodes and hostname.aggr1 are correct (and defaultrouter is set). Any ideas? Thanks, Jeff This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Menhir a distro for OpenSolaris plus Linux, FreeBSD and NetBSD
I want to make here a note which is somewhat off-topic but on the other side not: As I posted my press release about Menhir I think you read already this point: * A collection of kernel configuration files for desktops, laptops and servers. You get insight in the structure and building of the kernel if you configure and compile your own for your hardware. So at the website of Menhir we will collect configuration files for the hardware of the big hardware vendors. The important thing for the people here is that I am collecting kernel configuration files for the Hardware from the !! HCL for Solaris Express Developer Edition !! So imagine that I am getting successful with this sub-project of Menhir. Then there will be kernels (or better the config files) for *BSD, Slackware for all the HW which is guarateed to run OpenSolaris. Such a project was never started. So, please, could you do two things for me: 1) Look into the HCL and if you run a HW from there (for example a Desktop or a Server) on Linux or FreeBSD or NetBSD , please, make a kernel and post me the config file. For this you can read my blog post: http://chambers-of-unix.blogspot.com/2007/07/kernel-configuration-collection.html I have described this project there. 2) Spread the word about this little project if you know people who run a HW which is on the HCL. That's it. Thanks in advance for all help. best regards Gueven PS: I am making an exeption here and CC the Indiana project as they are trying to push OpenSolaris' popularity. I think this little project is helping to push the popularity further if you can say look, the HW which runs OpSol also runs the BSDs and Linux. PPS : Sorry, for the disturbance. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Mounting NTFS troublesome?
Ok, thanx for sorting that out! I think I will use mucommander as it seems to work, it seems to catch all files and not only a subset, as bash or midnight commander does. Thanx a lot for your help guys! *file closed* This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] lex flex
Dear all: There're two lexical analyzer generator in Solaris/OpenSolaris /usr/ccs/bin/lex /usr/sfw/bin/flex What's the difference between these 2 tools? Are they replaceable? Thanks in advance. p.s. And what about yacc and bison? Regards TJ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] lex flex
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, ÌÕœÝ Tao Jie wrote: Dear all: There're two lexical analyzer generator in Solaris/OpenSolaris /usr/ccs/bin/lex /usr/sfw/bin/flex What's the difference between these 2 tools? Are they replaceable? http://flex.sourceforge.net/manual/Lex-and-Posix.html#Lex-and-Posix Thanks in advance. p.s. And what about yacc and bison? Bison's manual claims that 'bison -y' accepts yacc input, and bison were 'upward compatible' with yacc. That means parsers written for yacc can be instantiated with bison. The reverse may or may not be true - depending on whether bison features have been used that yacc doesn't have. Although the bison manual isn't very clear on where exactly the differences are, i.e. what bison constructs might need to be avoided. FrankH. Regards TJ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] lex flex
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Re: [osol-discuss] FlashPlayer 9 on SXDE on Laptop...It's Been a Long Time Coming!
Dick Davies wrote: On 17/07/07, Kaiwai Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The new power management in B70 should also make it a nice platform for university - I like sitting in the cafe doing some study without seeing my battery drop like a rock. That's interesting - is that the 'frkit/power management' packages ( from http://opensolaris.org/os/community/laptop/ ) or something else? See: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/on/flag-days/pages/2007071601/ and: http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/tesla-dev/2007-July/92.html Thanks, -Eric ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] swat
Bnjour , j'ai un probléme de swat, le service swat n'existe pas voilà le message que j'obtien Le modèle 'svc:/network/swat/tcp:default' ne correspond à aucune instance merci pour vos aides This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] What is the package managemnet software on solaris?
Hmmm... apt-get merely sits ontop of debian packages - nothing stopping anyone (or you for that matter) to implement apt-get for SVR5 pkg's. NexentaOS already has... DSL ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] swat
lisez cet article http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5106458 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tarik Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 3:56 PM To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: [osol-discuss] swat Bnjour , j'ai un probléme de swat, le service swat n'existe pas voilà le message que j'obtien Le modèle 'svc:/network/swat/tcp:default' ne correspond à aucune instance merci pour vos aides This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Open Sound System - Dev Mazumdar
On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 22:45 +0800, Freeman Liu wrote: Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: Hi Joe, I have spoken with Sanjay Pandit and he told me about BOSUG and I would be very honored and happy to talk about audio and Open Sound with the BOSUG. Kindly email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] to discuss the agenda and dates. Is there an eta on when OpenSound is going to merge with Solaris? right now I can't record anything on my Solaris machine - the microphone (internal) isn't picking up anything - I assume it has to do with the lack of integration between GNOME and OpenSound. By what kind of audio record software ? audiorecord, or /usr/dt/bin/sdtaudio ? Both should work. Make sure you set the volume/gain correctly. By the way, what kind of driver are you using ? OSS driver or sada driver Using the GNOME 'Sound Recorder' Using the OpenSound driver: bash-3.00$ /usr/bin/ossinfo Version info: OSS 4.0 (build 1004/200707062145) (0x00040002) Platform: SunOS/i86pc 5.11 opensol-20070709 Number of audio devices:3 Number of audio engines:7 Number of MIDI devices: 0 Number of mixer devices:1 Device objects 0: oss0 OSS core services 1: ossusb0 USB audio/MIDI device 2: vmix0 OSS transparent virtual support 3: sadasupport0 SADA compatibility layer 4: hdaudio0 Intel HD Audio MIDI devices (/dev/midi*) Mixer devices (/dev/mixer*) 0: Intel HD Audio SmartAMC HD2 (Mixer 0 of device object 4) Audio devices /dev/oss/hdaudio0/pcm0 Intel HD Audio pcm output (device index 0) /dev/oss/hdaudio0/spdout0 Intel HD Audio spdifout output (device index 1) /dev/oss/hdaudio0/pcmin0Intel HD Audio rec input (device index 2) bash-3.00$ I tried it just then, doesn't work - the sound recorder can't save the file, when played there is just silence, when I try to adjust the volume using the GNOME audio control applet in the task bar it fails to adjust the volume thus I am forced to use the ossxmixer to properly adjust it. Inside the ossxmixer it has a mixed array of connector (pink2? lineout?) that make little or no sense what so ever. Matthew ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Portable UPnP SDK : build success
Thank so much Doug, I have all my music media inside a sparc machine and it will be nice to have a good media server to serve it. Thanks again, and looking forward to be able to get it soon... This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Open Sound System - Dev Mazumdar
On Wed, 2007-07-18 at 10:45 +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 22:45 +0800, Freeman Liu wrote: Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: Hi Joe, I have spoken with Sanjay Pandit and he told me about BOSUG and I would be very honored and happy to talk about audio and Open Sound with the BOSUG. Kindly email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] to discuss the agenda and dates. Is there an eta on when OpenSound is going to merge with Solaris? right now I can't record anything on my Solaris machine - the microphone (internal) isn't picking up anything - I assume it has to do with the lack of integration between GNOME and OpenSound. By what kind of audio record software ? audiorecord, or /usr/dt/bin/sdtaudio ? Both should work. Make sure you set the volume/gain correctly. By the way, what kind of driver are you using ? OSS driver or sada driver Using the GNOME 'Sound Recorder' Using the OpenSound driver: bash-3.00$ /usr/bin/ossinfo Version info: OSS 4.0 (build 1004/200707062145) (0x00040002) Platform: SunOS/i86pc 5.11 opensol-20070709 Number of audio devices:3 Number of audio engines:7 Number of MIDI devices: 0 Number of mixer devices:1 Device objects 0: oss0 OSS core services 1: ossusb0 USB audio/MIDI device 2: vmix0 OSS transparent virtual support 3: sadasupport0 SADA compatibility layer 4: hdaudio0 Intel HD Audio MIDI devices (/dev/midi*) Mixer devices (/dev/mixer*) 0: Intel HD Audio SmartAMC HD2 (Mixer 0 of device object 4) Audio devices /dev/oss/hdaudio0/pcm0 Intel HD Audio pcm output (device index 0) /dev/oss/hdaudio0/spdout0 Intel HD Audio spdifout output (device index 1) /dev/oss/hdaudio0/pcmin0Intel HD Audio rec input (device index 2) bash-3.00$ I tried it just then, doesn't work - the sound recorder can't save the file, when played there is just silence, when I try to adjust the volume using the GNOME audio control applet in the task bar it fails to adjust the volume thus I am forced to use the ossxmixer to properly adjust it. Inside the ossxmixer it has a mixed array of connector (pink2? lineout?) that make little or no sense what so ever. oss ich driver + /usr/dt/bin/sdtaudio or gnome-sound-record works for me. And sdtaudio produces better quality. You can try it by yourself. Here is the trick. The audio applications you used is on SADA interface, one that different from OSS interface. But OSS does provide a simulation of SADA interface, which means you have to set both ossxmier and gnome-volume-control correctly. If you are using a mic, make sure mic is checked in both ossxmixer and gnome-volume-control, and the one in the later is not crossed/muted. Thats all very nice - but define 'correctly' - gain and monitor as ok in gnome, but the ossxmixer confusing as heck; nothing clearly labelled. Here is the screenshot: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/kaiwai/Screenshot.png Its more confusing than a Chinese take-away menu. Matthew ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] List of OpenSolaris variant ... Re: Menhir a distro for OpenSolaris plus Linux, FreeBSD and NetBSD
Do you MEAN that OpenSolaris distro only thats short list ? Cheers, On Wed, 2007-07-18 at 10:38, Venky wrote: is there a site, which positioned for exposure of all distros being developed based on OpenSolaris ? So we can have list of them, like Belenix, Menhir etc ... Something like this? http://opensolaris.org/os/downloads/ Venky. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
