Re: [osol-discuss] Update/patch policy?
On 11/16/10 07:46 PM, Sean M. Brannon wrote: Thank you for the answers guys. Not that I'm happy about their content. :-( OpenSolaris and the future Solaris 11 had me interested in Solaris as a server platform again. Even though Oracle had bought it, and quashed OpenSolaris, I still felt Solaris could prove itself able to provide features that would be compelling enough to move away from Linux for certain workloads. It still does, whether you consider they justify the cost of support only you can say. Alas, it isn't to be I'm afraid. My work environment precludes the attachment to our network of any OS that could not be patched should security vulnerabilities arise. So you wouldn't have been able to attach an OpenSolaris system either. Well, maybe it's me reading too much into it.. http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/solaris11/documentation/s11sysadminwp101109final2-186770.pdf see text near bottom of page 7 (9/26): Table 2 lists default network-accessible repositories for Oracle Solaris 11 Express. TABLE 2. ORACLE SOLARIS 11 EXPRESS REPOSITORIES REPOSITORY DESCRIPTION http://pkg.oracle.com/solaris/release Default repository for Oracle Solaris 11 Express. This repository contains updates for each new release of Oracle Solaris. Significant bug fixes, security updates and new software may be provided at any time for users to install at Oracle's discretion. https://pkg.oracle.com/solaris/support Support repository providing the latest bug fixes and updates. Access is restricted to users with current Oracle Solaris support contracts. So it somehow reminds me the old RecommendedSecurity patch cluster and Maintenance Update, where Recommended cluster is public available, MU is only available to customers under contract. If it is set up and kept set up this way, I think it's good enough for a development environment. Of course, hope pkg can do a lot better than old smpatchco.. Cheers, Ivan. Even on test machines. Much of the US Federal gov't has the same requirements; whether or not all admins adhere to the rules is another question. In any case, I'm not going to buy a support agreement in order to put up a test environment. And I'm not sure I want to deal with a vendor that won't provide patches for test machines. It doesn't speak well of the corporate culture and their attitude toward customers. Hell, even Microsoft provides updates and security patches with their 120-day evals. I can't argue with that. One would think customer feedback from an express program would be worth the cost of providing patched and updates. -- Ian. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 11 Express is out
Thanks for the info. Unfortunately it seems I'm not able to use VirtualBox for testing the upgrade way, since b134b seems to be crashing there. i.e. I just see first boot message (Solaris Oracle copyright) then just something what looks like a stackdump (backtrace) and then immediate reboot... Is this already known bug? I'm using VBox 3.1.4 here on OS 2009.06 for this. Thanks, Karel -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] solaris 11 express and xvm
Hello, In the repository (http://pkg.oracle.com/solaris/release) I see : system/x...@0.5.11,5.11-0.151.0.1:20101105T061852Z system/virti...@0.5.11,5.11-0.151.0.1:20101105T061851Z ... Does that mean that xvm is supported to use solaris 11 express as Dom0 ? That would be a huge benefit for me, currently stuck with snv_134 Bruno ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Update/patch policy?
On 16 Nov 2010, at 08:37, Ivan Wang wrote: So it somehow reminds me the old RecommendedSecurity patch cluster and Maintenance Update, where Recommended cluster is public available, MU is only available to customers under contract. Well it *could* be, but it seems more likely to be based on the OpenSolaris repos - the release repo is updated every 6 months (or so), the support repo is updated more regularly but only for paying customers. No recommended patches at all, unless you pay. Cheers, Chris ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Old Versions
Hi, I'm not a usual user of OpenSolaris, I'm a little newbie on Solaris, as far as I understand there are 4 (with today 11 express) releases of OpenSolaris, and as far as I can understand it is only possible from oracle site donwload 11 and 10, but I need to donwload every version. If someone can explain me how many versions of releases of Osol exist, and where I can get them. By the way, Solaris is still exist? Or Solaris and OpenSolaris(oracle solaris) are fused ? Thanks -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Update/patch policy?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/16/2010 2:04 AM, Ian Collins wrote: On 11/16/10 07:46 PM, Sean M. Brannon wrote: It still does, whether you consider they justify the cost of support only you can say. Alas, it isn't to be I'm afraid. My work environment precludes the attachment to our network of any OS that could not be patched should security vulnerabilities arise. So you wouldn't have been able to attach an OpenSolaris system either. He might have been able to. The OpenSolaris development 2 weel release cycle might have qualified as patches. They always had all the known fixes in them. -Kyle -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (MingW32) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJM4n6oAAoJEEADRM+bKN5wAHIH/jNpGOVyQi0u/bs6k9IqfbS8 f6GyLPrVx8gO7btW1KENcfSBHpHA5sEyuuCO6h74l7Y3OayDgVhe/mci3HIkkItd cerqA/EsqU4gGzs7tc+eMq/8dT39A6fqBv5jysVSi9gHkh4DlhV/gUpstH4TDLgK G5tPtGwTIUX7nVa0SVMIiFigfXfkhbZQZXgHTt8Ueldfd/eud42PmPWltNZ1y6d2 dYsup2n6KXqYusi8NXwv2+EKE+EOPBJ3k+ZN2ts9uySdA+G/O2ytQ+fWAy0fDpE4 Ddw/C6uFN49ep0BKqRpiJRDe6fTGSxdPhvL4MLG3WttAWhQU+Z5PzKSViWobEWo= =hfJZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Update/patch policy?
On 11/16/10 04:45 AM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Dave Koelmeyer wrote: Sean M. Brannon wrote: What is the update/patch policy for Express? i.e. is an Oracle support contract required to gain access to Solaris 11 Express software/security updates? Yes. Oh, awesome. More demo software. Free trial/evaluation software. Like Solaris 10, production use requires support contracts. But, I thought security patches were always available for free? But, I could be wrong! Andrew -- Andrew Watkins * Birkbeck College http://notallmicrosoft.blogspot.com/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Solaris 11 Express Repository - kinda bare
Hi, I did a clean install of Solaris 11 Express and I notice that while the Oracle Solaris 11 Package Repository has more packages (3941) than OpenSolaris (3794) it doesn't have GCC 4 or OpenOffice. Is Oracle planning to add more packages to the repository in the future? In the meantime I have subscribed to the RSS feed. I am going to go and build geany, claws-mail and install OpenOffice. [0] http://pkg.oracle.com/solaris/release/en/index.shtml [1] http://pkg.opensolaris.org/release/en/index.shtml Cheers, Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Update/patch policy?
Andrew Watkins wrote: On 11/16/10 04:45 AM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Dave Koelmeyer wrote: Sean M. Brannon wrote: What is the update/patch policy for Express? i.e. is an Oracle support contract required to gain access to Solaris 11 Express software/security updates? Yes. Oh, awesome. More demo software. Free trial/evaluation software. Like Solaris 10, production use requires support contracts. But, I thought security patches were always available for free? Not since the Oracle acquisition. -- -Alan Coopersmith-alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 Express available
On 15/11/2010 16:32, Thorsten Heit wrote: Oracle today released its first version of Solaris 11 Express: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/solaris11/overview/index.html Just two gotchas so far, creating a new boot environment from OpenIndiana (which boot environment I plan to maintain and nuture). The first is that it trashes your nsswitch.conf again. I've had this before, so I knew exactly what had happened, but it fundamentally meant I couldn't access any NFS filesystems. It changed it from a slightly modified NIS version, with the addition of compat to the passwd line and dns to the hosts and ipnodes lines, back to a raw files version. Make sure you keep a copy of your working one. The second is the run of /usr/lib/time-slider-cleanup four times an hour from crontab, which is now sending me email all the time. This script has disappeared, and I'm not sure what the replacement is or if it's necessary any more. I'd appreciate thoughts on this. Some interesting messages (on my Sun Ultra 40 M2 Workstation): Nov 16 11:56:05 wonky genunix: [ID 484473 kern.notice] NOTICE: Not retired: /p...@0,0/pci10de,3...@f/disp...@0 Nov 16 11:56:15 wonky gdm-binary[1417]: [ID 702911 daemon.warning] WARNING: Got console request to add display for session that already has a display, and display is already in use Nov 16 11:56:26 wonky console-kit-daemon[671]: [ID 702911 daemon.warning] GLib-GObject-WARNING: g_object_set_property: construct property seat-id for object `CkSession' can't be set after construction None of these seems to be a major problem since the machine is working fine, but I'm curious, especially about the display warnings. Googling doesn't come up with anything interesting. Cheers, Rob -- E-Mail: rob.mcma...@warwick.ac.uk PHONE: +44 24 7652 3037 Rob McMahon, IT Services, Warwick University, Coventry, CV4 7AL, England ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 11 Express is out
Just to clarify, what is my path forward from OS 2009.06? The release is for development, prototyping, etc. To quote the license: only for the purpose of developing, testing, prototyping and demonstrating your applications, and not for any other purpose. I'm doing none of those things. I'm an end-user if you will in what I want to continue using OpenSolaris for. I use it for purely personal purposes, mainly a ZFS NAS. Now, the FAQ implies that Solaris 11 Express may be used for other means: Oracle Solaris 11 Express is the latest release of the Oracle Solaris operating system. This release is the path forward for developers, end-users and partners using previous generations of OpenSolaris releases. Really? That seems to disregard the license. Does buying support then modify your license to include non-development or prototyping-related activities? So do I stick with Solaris 11, and more importantly, may I for personal use? Or do I plan on going to either a dedicated NAS distribution such as Nexenta or to OpenIndiana? The latter two both have free licenses which I know are compatible with my current use. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 11 Express is out
Mike Brancato wrote: Really? That seems to disregard the license. Does buying support then modify your license to include non-development or prototyping-related activities? Yes. -- -Alan Coopersmith-alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Old Versions
Miguel Garcia wrote: I'm not a usual user of OpenSolaris, I'm a little newbie on Solaris, as far as I understand there are 4 (with today 11 express) releases of OpenSolaris, and as far as I can understand it is only possible from oracle site donwload 11 and 10, but I need to donwload every version. If someone can explain me how many versions of releases of Osol exist, and where I can get them. There were three full/stable releases of OpenSolaris: 2008.05, 2008.11, and 2009.06. Biweekly development builds were also released. The genunix.org website mirrored many of those - I don't know if they're still available or not. By the way, Solaris is still exist? Or Solaris and OpenSolaris(oracle solaris) are fused ? Solaris still very much exists, though it's now renamed to Oracle Solaris. There are currently two major versions of Solaris available, Solaris 10, and the new Solaris 11 Express which is based on what used to be OpenSolaris. -- -Alan Coopersmith-alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 11 Express Repository - kinda bare
did you download the repository or connect through the web? I have tried both and have problems both ways. Part B of the repository will not mount up under any filesystem type. after lofiadm the iso /dev/lofi/1 mount fails with not a hsfs filesystem. Part A works fine. When attempting to access the repository over the web the path defined in b151 does not exist in the published repository. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 11 Express Repository - kinda bare
did you download the repository or connect through the web? I have tried both and have problems both ways. Part B of the repository will not mount up under any filesystem type. after lofiadm the iso /dev/lofi/1 mount fails with not a hsfs filesystem. Part A works fine. You concatenate the two parts and mount the resulting .iso file - just fine. When attempting to access the repository over the web the path defined in b151 does not exist in the published repository. ??? how do you know what is in either? They are just two parts of a larger .iso file, as far as I understand it. Chavdar Ivanov -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 11 Express Repository - kinda bare
did you download the repository or connect through the web? I have tried both and have problems both ways. Part B of the repository will not mount up under any filesystem type. after lofiadm the iso /dev/lofi/1 mount fails with not a hsfs filesystem. Part A works fine. You concatenate the two parts and mount the resulting .iso file - just fine. Build 150 repository was two parts that were not concats. Instructions for that repository were to rsync the different repos after mounting the individual iso's I would think that would not change. When attempting to access the repository over the web the path defined in b151 does not exist in the published repository. ??? how do you know what is in either? They are just two parts of a larger .iso file, as far as I understand it. Chavdar Ivanov -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] How to get Solaris 11 GPL/LGPL Source Code from Oracle
-- Written Offer for Source Code - For binaries that you receive from Oracle as part of Oracle Solaris 11 Express 2010.11 that are licensed under any version of the GNU General Public License (GPL) or the GNU LGPL, you can receive a complete machine-readable copy of the source code by visiting http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/solaris11/downloads/gplsourceforsolaris-184717.html or by sending a written request to: Oracle America, Inc. Attn: Associate General Counsel, Development and Engineering Legal 500 Oracle Parkway, 10th Floor Redwood Shores, CA 94065 If you send a written request it should include (i) the name of the covered binary, (ii) the name and version number of the Oracle product containing the covered binary, (iii) your name, (iv) your company name (if applicable), and (v) your return mailing and email address (if available). We may charge you a nominal fee to cover the cost of the media and distribution. Your request must be sent within three (3) years of the date you received Oracle Solaris 11 Express 2010.11. - Election of Licenses - Oracle elects to use only the GNU Lesser General Public License version 2.1 (LGPL)/GNU General Public License version 2 (GPL) for any software where a choice of LGPL/GPL license versions are made available with the language indicating that LGPLv2.1/GPLv2 or any later version may be used, or where a choice of which version of the LGPL/GPL is applied is unspecified. Unless specifically stated otherwise, where a choice exists between another license and either the GPL or the LGPL, Oracle chooses the other license. This is from the Solaris 11 Express distribution. Explain GPL/LGPL licensing dealing with source code availability for included FOSS-related binaries. ~ Ken Mays -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 11 Express Repository - kinda bare
I stand corrected. Concat the two parts together worked... Thanks Build 150 repository was two parts that were not concats. Instructions for that repository were to rsync the different repos after mounting the individual iso's I would think that would not change. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] How to get Solaris 11 GPL/LGPL Source Code from Oracle
Ken Mays wrote: For binaries that you receive from Oracle as part of Oracle Solaris 11 Express 2010.11 that are licensed under any version of the GNU General Public License (GPL) or the GNU LGPL, you can receive a complete machine-readable copy of the source code by visiting [...] While that's the offer required by the GPL, the easiest way for most of it is still to simply checkout the JDS, SFW, X gates from the hg svn repos, since that's where most of the GPL/LGPL sources will be found (not all, since there's a few bits like grub in other consolidations, but most). -- -Alan Coopersmith-alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Old Versions
Miguel Garcia wrote: Ok... so OpenSolaris doesnt exist anymore? Now on there will be only Oracle Solaris XX? No more OS releases are planned under the OpenSolaris name. (Plans are always subject to change, the future is always unknown, but for now, don't expect to ever see any new OS/distro releases under that name.) -- -Alan Coopersmith-alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 11 Express is out
Edward Ned Harvey wrote: All rights not expressly granted above are hereby reserved. If you want to use the Programs for any purpose other than as permitted under this agreement, [...] you must obtain a valid license permitting such use. I think that S11Express include more then enough programs (if not all user programs) that are covered by GPL (GNOME, etc) and that rights for It's use can not be invalidated whatever Oracle is saying. So Oracle can not reserve all rights if it includes GPL or CDDL non-Oracle software. Therefore, that license restrictions can be applied only to binary parts of S11Express that are closed source ATM and not covered by license that allows free use of binary builds (as Oracle's OS/Net). OpenIndiana does just that: It uses open ON(OS/Net) consolidation and will use IllumOS ON consolidation in near future, instead of Oracle closed source ON and it adds on top of it other consolidations and programs, so you can use OpenIndiana without restrictions that Oracle Solaris wants to force to users. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Old Versions
Miguel Garcia wrote: Sorry, I'm a little bit confused now, so 2008.05 snv_86 ( so, all snv_XX than 86 are from 2008.05 ? this apply to all snv and releases right ?) All bugs fixed in snv_01...snv_86 are fixed in 2008.05. Bugs that were reported in snv_85 or earlier may or may not affect 2008.05, since they might have been fixed in snv_86 or might be fixed later than that (or not yet fixed at all). There were other releases prior to 2008.05, like Solaris Express Developer Edition, but those are now ancient history. 2008.11 snv_101 ( 86 snv=101 ) 2009.06 snv_111 (101 snv=111) 2010.11 snv_151 = Solaris 11 Express, as Ken Mays said, so 2009.06 was Oracle Solaris 10? At least should be because what you said. No, Oracle Solaris 10 is a different product line. snv is short for Solaris Nevada, the code name for the OS product line based on the 5.11 kernel. Solaris 10 is the product line based on the 5.10 kernel. -- -Alan Coopersmith-alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] // Solaris Express 11 is working with napp-it web-GUI
just to inform: napp-it, the free web-UI for NexentaCore and OpenIndiana is also working on Oracle Solaris Express 11. How to Install it (napp-it 0.4 pre-Version, beta): step 1: install Solaris Express 11 Step 2: login as admin, su to get root permissions and enter: wget -O - www.napp-it.org/nappit04 | perl step 3: you know the well known add - there is no step three you can then manage your ZFS-Server remotely via Browser. try a a href=http://www.napp-it.org/pop_en.html; target=_blankrunning installation/a gea www.napp-it.org -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Update/patch policy?
Ian Collins wrote: On 11/16/10 05:42 PM, Dave Koelmeyer wrote: Sean M. Brannon wrote: What is the update/patch policy for Express? i.e. is an Oracle support contract required to gain access to Solaris 11 Express software/security updates? Yes. Oh, awesome. More demo software. If you don't like the conditions, don't use it! Same goes for GLP software inside Solaris Express. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Update/patch policy?
Ian Collins wrote: Alas, it isn't to be I'm afraid. My work environment precludes the attachment to our network of any OS that could not be patched should security vulnerabilities arise. So you wouldn't have been able to attach an OpenSolaris system either. OpenSolaris /dev releases included all known security patches up to release date. So yes. OpenSolaris was security patched inside development releases. Since S11Express is a preview OS that is not released as often as /dev opensolaris releases were, therefore SolarisExpress is not in-place OpenSolaris replacement for development. Maybe OpenIndiana is, since it does not have restrictions for use. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Problem upgrading b134 to solaris11 express
Please help, I am trying to upgrade opensolaris b134 to solaris11 express. I followed the Oracle docs at http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/821-1479/gklaa?l=ena=view with no luck. Any help is greatly appreciated, below are the steps I tried. Going from b134 to b134b (5.11-0.134.0.2) worked with out a problem, I then booted to the new be (sol11-1) # uname -a SunOS bh1501 5.11 snv_134b i86pc i386 i86pc Solaris I then changed my publisher # pkg set-publisher --non-sticky opensolaris.org # pkg set-publisher -P -g http://pkg.oracle.com/solaris/release/ solaris I tried to display the license but nothing came up (maybe this is part of the problem). # pkg image-update 21 | less nothing I then updated my pkg package # pkg install pkg:/package/pkg Download: package/pkg ... Done Update Phase ... Done # pkg image-update --accept pkg -R /sol11 image-update --accept Download: SUNWPython ... Done Download: package/pkg/package-manager ... Done Download: SUNWgnu-idn ... Done Download: SUNWlxml ... Done Download: SUNWgnu-mp ... Done Download: SUNWgnu-mpfr ... Done Download: SUNWunixodbc ... Done Download: SUNWgnome-display-mgr ... Done Download: package/pkg/update-manager ... Done Download: SUNWperl584core ... Done Download: SUNWcurl ... Done Download: SUNWidnl ... Done Download: SUNWmysql51 ... Done Download: SUNWdbus ... Done Download: SUNWgnome-vfs ... Done Download: SUNWpth ... Done Download: SUNWlibstdcxx4 ... Done Download: SUNWpcre ... Done Download: SUNWxwrtl ... Done Download: SUNWxwplt ... Done Download: SUNWlibgpg-error ... Done Download: SUNWlibusb ... Done Download: SUNWgnu-gettext ... Done Download: SUNWlibsmbclient ... Done Download: SUNWfontconfig ... Done Download: SUNWiconv-unicode ... Done Download: SUNWzlib ... Done Download: SUNWsqlite3 ... Done Download: SUNWuiu8 ... Done Download: SUNWlibmng ... Done Download: SUNWcups-libs ... Done Download: SUNWpng ... Done Download: SUNWlibms ... Done Download: SUNWlexpt ... Done Download: SUNWcsl ... Done Download: SUNWhal ... Done Download: SUNWkrb ... Done Download: SUNWlibC ... Done Download: SUNWgnome-media ... Done Download: SUNWxorg-mesa ... Done Download: SUNWgnutls ... Done Download: SUNWicu ... Done Download: SUNWj6dev ... Done Download: SUNWgnupg ... Done Download: SUNWlibical ... Done Download: SUNWfreetype2 ... Done Update Phase ... Done sol11-2 has been updated successfully --- NOTE: Please review release notes posted at: http://docs.sun.com/doc/821-1479 --- This looks like something has changed, I tried booting in the new be (sol11-2) a uname still shows snv_134b. I also tried image-update again after boot to the new be, but it tells me No updates available # pkg -R /sol11 image-update --accept No updates available for this image. I am not sure what I did wrong any help appreciated. Thanks, -Eli -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] solaris 11 express and xvm
On 11/16/10 01:04 AM, Bruno Damour wrote: Hello, In the repository (http://pkg.oracle.com/solaris/release) I see : system/x...@0.5.11,5.11-0.151.0.1:20101105T061852Z system/virti...@0.5.11,5.11-0.151.0.1:20101105T061851Z ... Does that mean that xvm is supported to use solaris 11 express as Dom0 ? That would be a huge benefit for me, currently stuck with snv_134 The 32-bit dom0 hypervisor has been removed, per the release notes: http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/821-1479/fbdtw?l=ena=view Other details regarding xvm usage can be found there as well. -Shawn ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 11 Express Repository - kinda bare
On 11/16/10 08:06 AM, Chavdar Ivanov wrote: did you download the repository or connect through the web? I have tried both and have problems both ways. Part B of the repository will not mount up under any filesystem type. after lofiadm the iso /dev/lofi/1 mount fails with not a hsfs filesystem. Part A works fine. You concatenate the two parts and mount the resulting .iso file - just fine. They're actually separate ISO files -- not a physical file split. -Shawn ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 11 Express Repository - kinda bare
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/16/2010 2:16 PM, Shawn Walker wrote: You concatenate the two parts and mount the resulting .iso file - just fine. They're actually separate ISO files -- not a physical file split. That's not true. Not according to the page you download them from anyway: The repository image is provided in two parts that must be concatenated together. Please use the following command-line instructions to successfully create a full ISO image that can be burned to a dual-layer DVD or directly mounted using lofiadm. u...@hostname:~$ unzip sol-11-exp-201011-repo-full-iso-a.zip u...@hostname:~$ unzip sol-11-exp-201011-repo-full-iso-b.zip u...@hostname:~$ cat sol-11-exp-201011-repo-full.iso-a sol-11-exp-201011-repo-full.iso-b sol-11-exp-201011-repo-full.iso - -Kyle -Shawn ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (MingW32) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJM4tjeAAoJEEADRM+bKN5wpfEH/j7gxjq6K7y+H+9/Qa+XZ5nf z/P/nY9iGL4qexVKitV+OrEDdJQKwWfz7MPpsCvoSvDTtoKiI40/p1C8IefA3pTS IvFvNU5zMNS+J4X5AnMgoHtDrs2vpObJtcatCLBm5R/FaVamyHXjysckIMGZR0pj UBsbnCmN1QkM/BHVdpn9Buu/wg7DowBYwVzUQecTr76z570K87+LQcOpRP+vgHJg IzbVaDj/eFzn85Iz26ySY40PM5K94tIMzH/qZRXKx1piHJm8GYQb9Gr2SUdvFmiE +khwtaqAWo4tAp7ILMcipcCZUmCsGmwPIm67XnejSGTmlEysZGX62jZV2V+OKO8= =9eBH -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Problem upgrading b134 to solaris11 express
On 11/16/10 10:17 AM, Eli Kleinman wrote: Please help, I am trying to upgrade opensolaris b134 to solaris11 express. I followed the Oracle docs at http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/821-1479/gklaa?l=ena=view with no luck. Any help is greatly appreciated, below are the steps I tried. Going from b134 to b134b (5.11-0.134.0.2) worked with out a problem, I then booted to the new be (sol11-1) ... I also tried image-update again after boot to the new be, but it tells me No updates available # pkg -R /sol11 image-update --accept No updates available for this image. I am not sure what I did wrong any help appreciated. Two things are needed to help you: 1) the output of 'pkg publisher' 2) the output of 'pkg list' -Shawn ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] permission denied to do everything!
STRANGE THING, Please help.. I've installed solaris about 1 week ago and i've not installed anything yet. why? when i try to install things like XAMPP, or FLASH with the terminal. it says me anto...@opensolaris:~$ cd Downloads anto...@opensolaris:~/Downloads$ sh xampp-solaris-0.9.sh Do you want to install XAMPP? (answer 'no' or press Ctrl+C to abort installation) [yes] [b]mkdir: cannot create directory `/opt/xampp': Permission denied[/b] Please be simple in the explanation,[b] thank you all[/b] -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] PAM Error (/etc/pam.conf no initial module present)
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 08:21:56PM -0500, Patrick O'Sullivan wrote: Took a different approach. I started with the baseline /etc/pam.conf and began adding Kerberos lines to it rather than trying to figure out what part of my config was wrong. Now, auth works and no more errors! Unfortunately, PAM configuration is tricky and thus easy to get wrong. Next time read the man pages for pam.conf and pam_krb5 very carefully (the pam_krb5 man-page has a number of examples in it). Also note that a number of the PAM modules support a debug argument. -- Will Fiveash Oracle http://opensolaris.org/os/project/kerberos/ Sent using mutt, a sweet, text based e-mail app http://www.mutt.org/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [install-discuss] How to install flash player
it doesen't work... i've not the permessions to do anything in the opt directory or plugins directory.. don't know why. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Problem upgrading b134 to solaris11 express
On 11/16/10 11:37 AM, Chris Ridd wrote: NAME (PUBLISHER) VERSION STATE UFOXI ... amp-dev 0.5.11-0.111installed - This is most likely the issue (assuming you've added the 'solaris' publisher as described in the release notes). Per the release notes: http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/821-1479/fbdtw?l=ena=view ...PostgreSQL Versions 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 have been removed. As amp-dev depends on SUNWphp52-pgsql (a PHP PostgreSQL library) which depends on PostgreSQL, the package system is unable to move your system forward. It assumes you prefer to keep postgre, etc. working instead of updating it to a point where software stops working. Yes, the messaging could be better here, but it's very difficult to divine the intent of the user here. You'll need to remove amp-dev, all of the *php* and postgre packages. I believe that should allow you to upgrade (assuming there isn't some other package in the way). -Shawn ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] permission denied to do everything!
First guess is that you tried to run the installer as user 'antonio', when you should run it as root. Only root can usually create new directories in locations like /opt. Try using sudo to run the installer. Greg -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [install-discuss] How to install flash player
Read post in your other thread. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] permission denied to do everything!
On 11/16/10 02:41 PM, Antonio Orvieto wrote: STRANGE THING, Please help.. I've installed solaris about 1 week ago and i've not installed anything yet. why? when i try to install things like XAMPP, or FLASH with the terminal. it says me anto...@opensolaris:~$ cd Downloads anto...@opensolaris:~/Downloads$ sh xampp-solaris-0.9.sh Do you want to install XAMPP? (answer 'no' or press Ctrl+C to abort installation) [yes] [b]mkdir: cannot create directory `/opt/xampp': Permission denied[/b] Please be simple in the explanation,[b] thank you all[/b] Type at the prompt: pfexec su now press enter You now have root privileges! Your problem was you didn't have root privileges. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [install-discuss] How to install flash player
- Original Message - From: Antonio Orvieto antonio_orvi...@hotmail.it To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:46:58 PM Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] [install-discuss] How to install flash player it doesen't work... i've not the permessions to do anything in the opt directory or plugins directory.. don't know why. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org if you do su, can you access the folder? ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] permission denied to do everything!
On 11/16/10 02:41 PM, Antonio Orvieto wrote: STRANGE THING, Please help.. I've installed solaris about 1 week ago and i've not installed anything yet. why? when i try to install things like XAMPP, or FLASH with the terminal. it says me anto...@opensolaris:~$ cd Downloads anto...@opensolaris:~/Downloads$ sh xampp-solaris-0.9.sh Do you want to install XAMPP? (answer 'no' or press Ctrl+C to abort installation) [yes] [b]mkdir: cannot create directory `/opt/xampp': Permission denied[/b] Please be simple in the explanation,[b] thank you all[/b] Type at the prompt: pfexec su now press enter You now have root privileges! Your problem was you didn't have root privileges. Example: bash-4.0$ pfexec su # Notice the prompt changed to a # Now enter your command sh xampp-solaris-0.9.sh Example: # sh xampp-solaris-0.9.sh Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Problem upgrading b134 to solaris11 express
On 16 Nov 2010, at 19:49, Shawn Walker wrote: On 11/16/10 11:37 AM, Chris Ridd wrote: NAME (PUBLISHER) VERSION STATE UFOXI ... amp-dev 0.5.11-0.111installed - This is most likely the issue (assuming you've added the 'solaris' publisher as described in the release notes). Per the release notes: http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/821-1479/fbdtw?l=ena=view ...PostgreSQL Versions 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 have been removed. As amp-dev depends on SUNWphp52-pgsql (a PHP PostgreSQL library) which depends on PostgreSQL, the package system is unable to move your system forward. It assumes you prefer to keep postgre, etc. working instead of updating it to a point where software stops working. Yes, that makes sense. I was also slightly curious what would happen since sunstudio doesn't appear to be in the new repos; maybe that's going to be a problem too. Yes, the messaging could be better here, but it's very difficult to divine the intent of the user here. You'll need to remove amp-dev, all of the *php* and postgre packages. I believe that should allow you to upgrade (assuming there isn't some other package in the way). Nod. The image-update is now going a lot slower, so hopefully it is thinking about doing something useful this time :-) It would be helpful if pkg could write out the list of pkgs that are stopping the image-update from moving forward. Producing a very similar boot env is not helpful, as you get fooled into a useless reboot. But then, how often is pkg going to encounter this sort of incompatibility? Cheers, Chris ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] solaris 11 express and xvm
On 11/17/10 08:11 AM, Shawn Walker wrote: On 11/16/10 01:04 AM, Bruno Damour wrote: Hello, In the repository (http://pkg.oracle.com/solaris/release) I see : system/x...@0.5.11,5.11-0.151.0.1:20101105T061852Z system/virti...@0.5.11,5.11-0.151.0.1:20101105T061851Z ... Does that mean that xvm is supported to use solaris 11 express as Dom0 ? That would be a huge benefit for me, currently stuck with snv_134 The 32-bit dom0 hypervisor has been removed, per the release notes: http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/821-1479/fbdtw?l=ena=view Other details regarding xvm usage can be found there as well. Interesting. Based on the push for Oracle's alternative Xen based offering, I was expecting xVM to be completely removed. -- Ian. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Problem upgrading b134 to solaris11 express
On 16 Nov 2010, at 20:22, Chris Ridd wrote: On 16 Nov 2010, at 19:49, Shawn Walker wrote: Yes, the messaging could be better here, but it's very difficult to divine the intent of the user here. You'll need to remove amp-dev, all of the *php* and postgre packages. I believe that should allow you to upgrade (assuming there isn't some other package in the way). Nod. The image-update is now going a lot slower, so hopefully it is thinking about doing something useful this time :-) This time I got prompted to accept the license, so I think it'll work. Thanks Shawn! Cheers, Chris ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Problem upgrading b134 to solaris11 express
On 11/16/10 11:55 AM, Eli Kleinman wrote: Hi Shawn and thanks for the help, I booted back to my old boot environment, below is the output of the new boot environment. - I did a beadm mount sol11-2 /sol11 --- pkg -R /sol11 publisher PUBLISHER TYPE STATUS URI solaris (non-sticky, preferred) origin online http://pkg.oracle.com/solaris/release/ opensolaris.org (non-sticky) origin online http://pkg.opensolaris.org/release/ contrib.opensolaris.org (non-sticky) origin online http://pkg.opensolaris.org/contrib/ pkg -R /sol11 list NAME (PUBLISHER) VERSION STATE UFOXI KDEbase-apps (mypkgs) 4.4.0-2 installed u KDEbase-runtime (mypkgs) 4.4.0-3 installed u KDEbase-workspace (mypkgs)4.4.0-2 installed u KDEgdm-integration (mypkgs) 4.4.0-0.132 installed u KDElibs (mypkgs) 4.4.0-2 installed u KDEoxygen-icons (mypkgs) 4.4.0-2 installed u KDEpimlibs (mypkgs) 4.4.0-3 installed u ... database/postgres-82 (opensolaris.org)8.2.15-0.134.0.2 installed u database/postgres-82/contrib (opensolaris.org) 8.2.15-0.134.0.2 installed u database/postgres-82/developer (opensolaris.org) 8.2.15-0.134.0.2 installed u database/postgres-82/documentation (opensolaris.org) 8.2.15-0.134.0.2 installed u database/postgres-82/language-bindings (opensolaris.org) 8.2.15-0.134.0.2 installed u database/postgres-82/library (opensolaris.org) 8.2.15-0.134.0.2 installed u database/postgres-82/pgtcl (opensolaris.org) 1.5-0.134.0.2 installed u database/postgres-83 (opensolaris.org)8.3.9-0.134.0.2 installed u database/postgres-83/connector/jdbc (opensolaris.org) 8.3.603-0.134.0.2 installed u database/postgres-83/contrib (opensolaris.org) 8.3.9-0.134.0.2 installed u database/postgres-83/developer (opensolaris.org) 8.3.9-0.134.0.2 installed u database/postgres-83/documentation (opensolaris.org) 8.3.9-0.134.0.2 installed u database/postgres-83/language-bindings (opensolaris.org) 8.3.9-0.134.0.2 installed u database/postgres-83/library (opensolaris.org) 8.3.9-0.134.0.2 installed u database/postgres-83/pgbouncer (opensolaris.org) 1.1.2-0.134.0.2 installed u database/postgres-83/pgtcl (opensolaris.org) 1.5-0.134.0.2 installed u database/postgres/pgadmin (opensolaris.org) 1.10.0-0.134.0.2 installed u From what I recall, the KDE packages depend on postgre. As I pointed out to another poster, PostgreSQL 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 have been removed from Solaris 11 Express. You'll likely have to remove all postgre and KDE packages from your system to be able to upgrade. You'll also likely need to remove any packages installed from contrib. Contrib is non-functional at this point (as far as I know), and I suspect packages from there might also prevent an upgrade. -Shawn ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Any opinions on the Brocade 825 Dual port 8Gb FC HBA?
Does OpenSolaris/Solaris11 Express have a driver for it already? Anyone used one already? -Kyle ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Update/patch policy?
Alan, come on. What does access to basic patches have to do with production deployment? Even at home, I don't look at some set of my boxes and even think, oh, those can go without patches. And the idea that you've got a product that's supposed to be available for evaluation and development but that can only be bought for the same price charged for production support on a product that's increasingly targeted to enterprise environments ($1k USD per socket per year)... Last time I tried to get a price on this, I spent weeks being passed between sales people, so I've got no appetite to go through that process in search of a reasonable price. Where's the recognition of where the product makes sense and a SKU to get it there? Why aren't there reasonably priced subscriptions available for development, education, and evaluation that package support and tools? The principle that patches aren't a basic requirement of running an OS and only available through a licensing model targeting enterprises for production together tell me that Oracle hasn't found the plot they lost when they withdrew OpenSolaris and decided that the primary mission of Solaris should be to maximise revenue from enterprise sales. I don't want to build relationships with Oracle through the sale organisation any more than I want to have to spend time with a car salesman: I just want a reasonable list price to get software I need that I'm not buying with someone else's money, and I gotta say, the only other major game where I have to buy such a package at all is Microsoft, where Oracle is asking a multiple of their list. Dave is right: this is demoware, and the only person who want to run this as offered is someone who wants a Solaris install that only lasts long enough to make a sales pitch. On 16 Nov 2010, at 04:45, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Dave Koelmeyer wrote: Sean M. Brannon wrote: What is the update/patch policy for Express? i.e. is an Oracle support contract required to gain access to Solaris 11 Express software/security updates? Yes. Oh, awesome. More demo software. Free trial/evaluation software. Like Solaris 10, production use requires support contracts. -- -Alan Coopersmith-alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Update/patch policy?
Bayard Bell wrote: Alan, come on. What does access to basic patches have to do with production deployment? Because that's the business model Oracle's business people have chosen. Why aren't there reasonably priced subscriptions available for development, education, and evaluation that package support and tools? I have as little idea about that as you do. I can just tell you what is, not why it is - I'm an engineer, not a VP or marketing analyst, and ranting at me is wasting your time, there's nothing I can do but sympathize. -- -Alan Coopersmith-alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] solaris 11 express and xvm
On 11/16/2010 3:24 PM, Ian Collins wrote: On 11/17/10 08:11 AM, Shawn Walker wrote: On 11/16/10 01:04 AM, Bruno Damour wrote: Hello, In the repository (http://pkg.oracle.com/solaris/release) I see : system/x...@0.5.11,5.11-0.151.0.1:20101105T061852Z system/virti...@0.5.11,5.11-0.151.0.1:20101105T061851Z ... Does that mean that xvm is supported to use solaris 11 express as Dom0 ? That would be a huge benefit for me, currently stuck with snv_134 The 32-bit dom0 hypervisor has been removed, per the release notes: http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/821-1479/fbdtw?l=ena=view Other details regarding xvm usage can be found there as well. Interesting. Based on the push for Oracle's alternative Xen based offering, I was expecting xVM to be completely removed. Me too, but this is a welcomed surprise and, honestly, the one thing that has suddenly caused me to start thinking again about running Solaris 11 on my network. I've searched for some time looking for any other information about xvm support in Solaris 11 Express and have found nothing. It almost appears to be a hidden feature... The doc Shawn linked is kind of strange in that it illustrates that there was a concerted effort to remove 32-bit Dom0 support while leaving 64-bit support. It doesn't really say that 64-bit Dom0 is supported, other than saying that use of the 64-bit hypervisor won't affect the ability to run either 32 or 64 bit guest machines. I have a couple pressing questions, perhaps someone could link me to relevant docs: * if xvm Dom0 is in Solaris 11 Express, does that imply that it will also be in Solaris 11? * how has xvm been modified since b134? - I can't tell and I know there were a few bugs in b134, but it seems that if xvm is being picked up again, then it may have been updated in way other than stripping out the 32-bit support... Thanks, Kent ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Fixed-Priority Scheduling Policy vs Round-Robin Scheduling
Does Fixed-Priority Scheduling Policy function similar to Round-Robin scheduling with fixed time-quantum (somewhat like SCHED_RR in Linux) ? Please let me know. Thank you. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] solaris 11 express and xvm
On 11/17/10 03:17 PM, Kent Watsen wrote: On 11/16/2010 3:24 PM, Ian Collins wrote: On 11/17/10 08:11 AM, Shawn Walker wrote: The 32-bit dom0 hypervisor has been removed, per the release notes: http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/821-1479/fbdtw?l=ena=view Other details regarding xvm usage can be found there as well. Interesting. Based on the push for Oracle's alternative Xen based offering, I was expecting xVM to be completely removed. Me too, but this is a welcomed surprise and, honestly, the one thing that has suddenly caused me to start thinking again about running Solaris 11 on my network. I've searched for some time looking for any other information about xvm support in Solaris 11 Express and have found nothing. It almost appears to be a hidden feature... The doc Shawn linked is kind of strange in that it illustrates that there was a concerted effort to remove 32-bit Dom0 support while leaving 64-bit support. It doesn't really say that 64-bit Dom0 is supported, other than saying that use of the 64-bit hypervisor won't affect the ability to run either 32 or 64 bit guest machines. I have a couple pressing questions, perhaps someone could link me to relevant docs: * if xvm Dom0 is in Solaris 11 Express, does that imply that it will also be in Solaris 11? Well it isn't listed in the Features That Might Be Removed in a Future Release section of the release notes. * how has xvm been modified since b134? - I can't tell and I know there were a few bugs in b134, but it seems that if xvm is being picked up again, then it may have been updated in way other than stripping out the 32-bit support... That might be problem, it it's still there, but not being worked on. The version is still 3.4.2 (as build 133). -- Ian. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] solaris 11 express and xvm
Kent Watsen wrote: * if xvm Dom0 is in Solaris 11 Express, does that imply that it will also be in Solaris 11? No, we are still working through removal of EOF features. There are some major removals yet to come. (I don't know about Dom0 specifically, just the case in general.) -- -Alan Coopersmith-alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] solaris 11 express and xvm
On 11/17/10 04:29 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Kent Watsen wrote: * if xvm Dom0 is in Solaris 11 Express, does that imply that it will also be in Solaris 11? No, we are still working through removal of EOF features. There are some major removals yet to come. (I don't know about Dom0 specifically, just the case in general.) That could be a support headache if a supported customer uses an EOF feature in production. -- Ian. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] solaris 11 express and xvm
What would be ideal is for Oracle to synchronize the Xen implementation and functionality in Oracle VM on Linux with Solaris 11 on x86. That way customers have a choice on where to run the Xen hypervisor. Either that, or take VirtualBox and elevate it to a type 1 hypervisor ontop of Solaris 11. That would be a major differentiator. I personally think the Xen market is flooded with Linux implementations. Then again, Red Hat is obviously pushing for KVM.. so I guess that's another option. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Octave J. Orgeron Solaris Virtualization Architect and Consultant Web: http://unixconsole.blogspot.com E-Mail: unixcons...@yahoo.com *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* - Original Message From: Ian Collins i...@ianshome.com To: Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Cc: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Tue, November 16, 2010 9:39:37 PM Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] solaris 11 express and xvm On 11/17/10 04:29 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Kent Watsen wrote: * if xvm Dom0 is in Solaris 11 Express, does that imply that it will also be in Solaris 11? No, we are still working through removal of EOF features. There are some major removals yet to come. (I don't know about Dom0 specifically, just the case in general.) That could be a support headache if a supported customer uses an EOF feature in production. -- Ian. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] solaris 11 express and xvm
On 11/16/2010 7:39 PM, Ian Collins wrote: On 11/17/10 04:29 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Kent Watsen wrote: * if xvm Dom0 is in Solaris 11 Express, does that imply that it will also be in Solaris 11? No, we are still working through removal of EOF features. There are some major removals yet to come. (I don't know about Dom0 specifically, just the case in general.) That could be a support headache if a supported customer uses an EOF feature in production. Which is why people should read the Release Notes. http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/821-1479/eos-36?a=view :-) Of course, there does appear to be specific direction as to the future of 64-bit Dom0 or any DomU. -- Erik Trimble Java System Support Mailstop: usca22-123 Phone: x17195 Santa Clara, CA ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] solaris 11 express and xvm
On 11/16/2010 8:16 PM, Erik Trimble wrote: On 11/16/2010 7:39 PM, Ian Collins wrote: On 11/17/10 04:29 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Kent Watsen wrote: * if xvm Dom0 is in Solaris 11 Express, does that imply that it will also be in Solaris 11? No, we are still working through removal of EOF features. There are some major removals yet to come. (I don't know about Dom0 specifically, just the case in general.) That could be a support headache if a supported customer uses an EOF feature in production. Which is why people should read the Release Notes. http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/821-1479/eos-36?a=view :-) Of course, there does appear to be specific direction as to the future of 64-bit Dom0 or any DomU. Oops. I missed inserting the word NOT. As in, no specific direction about 64-bit xvm. -- Erik Trimble Java System Support Mailstop: usca22-123 Phone: x17195 Santa Clara, CA ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] solaris 11 express and xvm
On 11/17/10 05:23 PM, Erik Trimble wrote: On 11/16/2010 8:16 PM, Erik Trimble wrote: On 11/16/2010 7:39 PM, Ian Collins wrote: On 11/17/10 04:29 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Kent Watsen wrote: * if xvm Dom0 is in Solaris 11 Express, does that imply that it will also be in Solaris 11? No, we are still working through removal of EOF features. There are some major removals yet to come. (I don't know about Dom0 specifically, just the case in general.) That could be a support headache if a supported customer uses an EOF feature in production. Which is why people should read the Release Notes. http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/821-1479/eos-36?a=view :-) Of course, there does appear to be specific direction as to the future of 64-bit Dom0 or any DomU. Oops. I missed inserting the word NOT. As in, no specific direction about 64-bit xvm. Support for 32–bit and 64–bit guest domUs remains unaffected on the 64–bit version of the hypervisor delivered in this release. In that section may give the wrong impression! -- Ian. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] solaris 11 express and xvm
Does that mean that xvm is supported to use solaris 11 express as Dom0 ? Yes, the xVM packages are still present in 2010.11 although there are known issues with them. And though the packages are there and I can't speak to the dom0 roadmap, I should point out the following approved ARC case from earlier this year PSARC/2010/250 EOF of Solaris xVM dom0 closed approved fast-track 07/07/2010 (from http://arc.opensolaris.org/caselog/PSARC/2010/) domU support is available in 2010.11, both in PV and in HVM mode. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Old Versions
Ok... so OpenSolaris doesnt exist anymore? Now on there will be only Oracle Solaris XX? Thanks On 11/16/2010 03:59 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Miguel Garcia wrote: I'm not a usual user of OpenSolaris, I'm a little newbie on Solaris, as far as I understand there are 4 (with today 11 express) releases of OpenSolaris, and as far as I can understand it is only possible from oracle site donwload 11 and 10, but I need to donwload every version. If someone can explain me how many versions of releases of Osol exist, and where I can get them. There were three full/stable releases of OpenSolaris: 2008.05, 2008.11, and 2009.06. Biweekly development builds were also released. The genunix.org website mirrored many of those - I don't know if they're still available or not. By the way, Solaris is still exist? Or Solaris and OpenSolaris(oracle solaris) are fused ? Solaris still very much exists, though it's now renamed to Oracle Solaris. There are currently two major versions of Solaris available, Solaris 10, and the new Solaris 11 Express which is based on what used to be OpenSolaris. -- Miguel Garcia http://homepages.lasige.di.fc.ul.pt/~mhenriques ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Old Versions
Sorry, I'm a little bit confused now, so 2008.05 snv_86 ( so, all snv_XX than 86 are from 2008.05 ? this apply to all snv and releases right ?) 2008.11 snv_101 ( 86 snv=101 ) 2009.06 snv_111 (101 snv=111) 2010.11 snv_151 = Solaris 11 Express, as Ken Mays said, so 2009.06 was Oracle Solaris 10? At least should be because what you said. Sorry for my confusion, but I need a clear timeline of the releases and snv Thanks On 11/16/2010 03:59 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Miguel Garcia wrote: I'm not a usual user of OpenSolaris, I'm a little newbie on Solaris, as far as I understand there are 4 (with today 11 express) releases of OpenSolaris, and as far as I can understand it is only possible from oracle site donwload 11 and 10, but I need to donwload every version. If someone can explain me how many versions of releases of Osol exist, and where I can get them. There were three full/stable releases of OpenSolaris: 2008.05, 2008.11, and 2009.06. Biweekly development builds were also released. The genunix.org website mirrored many of those - I don't know if they're still available or not. By the way, Solaris is still exist? Or Solaris and OpenSolaris(oracle solaris) are fused ? Solaris still very much exists, though it's now renamed to Oracle Solaris. There are currently two major versions of Solaris available, Solaris 10, and the new Solaris 11 Express which is based on what used to be OpenSolaris. -- Miguel Garcia http://homepages.lasige.di.fc.ul.pt/~mhenriques ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
