Re: [osol-discuss] Screen recorder
Chavdar Ivanov ci4...@gmail.com writes: http://www.ohloh.net/p/recordmysolaris Just tested this, the Jack[1] audio support had some bugs[2] I had to work around, but it worked OK once that was done. [1] http://jackaudio.org/download (1.9.6) - I compiled without the dbus support. [2] http://code.google.com/p/recordmysolaris/issues/list (5 6) Dag -- ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Black magic
Hi everyone, I have encountered a strange thing. My server is running OpenSolaris 2009.06 build 111b. Until recent, when I check for updates, I see No updates available. I have nothing changed. Recently, the update manager had shown large number of updated packages available (1000 packages, 800MB). I thought that Oracle has decided at last to give out some updates to OS 2009.06, and started the update process. Unfortunately, the update process is going very slow (~15 minutes preparing, ~10 minutes downloading, and then Download failed at some point). So I have to restart the Update Manager, and start over. Every time it goes further, as (I think) already downloaded packages are not re-downloaded, just verified or so. The update process is not yet completed. I have decided to check this update at home. Installed OS 2009.06 in VirtualBox, checked for updates... No updates available. Returned to work, where server is *updating*. Re-checked repository settings in Package Manager. The only repository there is http://pkg.opensolaris.org/release/ . How comes that my server is updating? When the update will be complete, I will report results. - Dmitry. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] X11 XtAppAddTimeOut is not working properly.
On 11/22/10 12:25 AM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: I believe Linux defaults to a higher resolution timer, something you can enable system-wide on Solaris, ... Just as an experiment to verify, in /etc/system add: set hires_tick = 1 and reboot. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] upgrade woes, snv_132 - snv_147 - snv_149
Hi Shawn I am having the similar problem. laptop at snv-148 use GUI Package Manager This is an Live Image. The install operation can't be performed I can OpenConnect or Punchin VPN to Oracle in UK Where is the best place to find the solution? Regards kenneth berry -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] X11 XtAppAddTimeOut is not working properly.
I have changed the setting by enabling set hires_tick=1 and it was working fine.Fun was getting called even within 1 milli second. Can you please suggest whether it will have any performance impact or not . -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] X11 XtAppAddTimeOut is not working properly.
Hi John it is working fine with the changes .Can you please tell what will be the performance impact of this On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 5:31 PM, John Martin john.m.mar...@oracle.comwrote: On 11/22/10 12:25 AM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: I believe Linux defaults to a higher resolution timer, something you can enable system-wide on Solaris, ... Just as an experiment to verify, in /etc/system add: set hires_tick = 1 and reboot. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] X11 XtAppAddTimeOut is not working properly.
On 11/22/10 07:13 AM, Debabrata Debroy wrote: Hi John it is working fine with the changes .Can you please tell what will be the performance impact of this The system clock tick rate gets bumped from 100Hz (10mS) to 1000Hz (1mS), so the system load handling the clock interrupt will go up. Objective measurements would depend on the platform. I would run powertop to verify the extra wakeups aren't pushing the system in a higher power state. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Black magic
Dmitry G. Kozhinov wrote: Hi everyone, I have encountered a strange thing. My server is running OpenSolaris 2009.06 build 111b. Until recent, when I check for updates, I see No updates available. I have nothing changed. Recently, the update manager had shown large number of updated packages available (1000 packages, 800MB). I thought that Oracle has decided at last to give out some updates to OS 2009.06, and started the update process. Unfortunately, the update process is going very slow (~15 minutes preparing, ~10 minutes downloading, and then Download failed at some point). So I have to restart the Update Manager, and start over. Every time it goes further, as (I think) already downloaded packages are not re-downloaded, just verified or so. The update process is not yet completed. Build 134b was published to the /release repo recently for use as an intermediate step in upgrading to the Solaris 11 Express 2010.11 release (build 151a). Several changes were needed to /pkg, and bringing everyone on all the /dev /release versions up to a common version first made it so that those pkg fixes only needed to be published for 134b, not every previous build that someone may be running. -- -Alan Coopersmith-alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] X11 XtAppAddTimeOut is not working properly.
Obviously it will have some performance impact. Whether you'll notice it is another story. I found a posts about the impact: http://blogs.sun.com/jtc/entry/overhead_in_increasing_the_solaris but nothing would be anywhere near as informative as testing with your actual workload. I think libXt uses select(); one could imagine an alternate implementation that used event ports and a high-resolution timer. It might take a lot of testing to get right though, and high resolution timers require the user to have an additional fine-grained privilege. And since we're all supposed to turn our noses up at libXt, mutter legacy, and move on to using GTK instead, I doubt anyone will bother trying to give XtAppAddTimeOut finer grained resolution without the need for a systemwide change. (In case you hadn't noticed, I haven't yet gotten over the move to GNOME, which I think was a loser. If one had to move to some non-Xt toolkit, I'd have preferred Qt (KDE). Not that I've _written_ anything using either, but KDE apps always seem to me to look prettier and respond just a bit faster.) -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Black magic
It has been updated to snv_134b . But why? - Dmitry. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] ZFS+RAID on Dell PE R510
Hi all, I have one issue. Want to install Sol11Xp on Dell PE R510 server. It has 2x146GB SAS + 3x1TB SATA HDDs. Configuration is Raid 1 forfirst two and RAID 5 for rest of them. Dell has its own RAID controller - PERC 6/i, in my case. When I go to install Solaris 11 Express, it can't find any disk norarray of disks. I use Gparted but without any help. Could anyone write me the list of commands I have to type so I couldcontinue installing ZFS on virtual (RAID) disks, plus install ZFS onboth raid arrays. Thanks in advance, Uros Nedic ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Black magic
Thanks Alan. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 11 Express, OpenOffice.org, VirtualBox
# For LibreOffice I don't see any builds for Solaris. So, when we #wouldn't care about our platform, what is then the foundation #doing? ;-) I think your philosophy is fundamentally flawed. No one is expecting the TDF to port LibreOffice to Solaris. If Oracle is not stubborn/stupid enough and knows how to cut loss (re OpenOffice.org and vis-a-vis the old Sun), and is willing to look into the future and fully embrace LibreOffice, then ( probably only then) we will see a LibreOffice port for Solaris. The so-called OpenSolaris community has been spoiled by Sun, and the fact will be, if Oracle does not do the Solaris port (for LibreOffice), no one else will. I will give it a try, but I doubt I will have much success. When I become comfortable with LibreOffice, which will be available in every major OS except Solaris, then even I will be completely moving away from Solaris. Either way, I am seeing this a new dawn, a new opportunity--finally we have a chance to reboot perhaps the most important project in the open source world. The following comment was cc'd from the GullFoss Forum, in case my posting was rejected: I am unable to install OOo 3.3RC5 in the just-released Oracle Solaris 11 Express. I have no problem installing it in Ubuntu. And I was able to install one of the previous RC's in Solaris 10u9 (with some tweaks, but they didn't work with Solaris 11 Express). Could someone please look into this matter? I know, from my past experience, that the OpenOffice team doesn't really care about the Solaris port, but it is terribly embarrassing that Solaris 11 is the only mainstream OS that has conflict with OpenOffice. I also want to add that, as a contrast, the VirtualBox developers must have worked diligently with their Solaris colleagues in that the most recent version of VB 3.2.10 guest addition is now almost seamlessly built into the Solaris Express LiveCD. Perhaps Chairman Larry should seriously considering giving up on OpenOffice.org and fully embracing LibreOffice. No use piling more chips when you got a bad hand. cc to OpenSolaris Discuss Forum -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] System Firewall - how to enable
Hi, Has any one had any luck using System Firewall? I am going around in circles try to enable the Deny access by default option. It doesn't accept my password or the root password ? When I enable Deny access by default I am presented with a Log In dialog box with the following text You are not authorized to perform this action, Select a user or role with proper authorization Select a user to administer host localhost, Host: localhost: Username: root Using my main account or the root account fails. Thanks, Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris support cheaper than RedHat Ent. linux 6 :-)
taking a break, so I decided to read some news:-) RedHat 6 got a new pricing. http://www.c0t0d0s0.org/archives/7023-New-RedHat-prici ng.html Sorry for mistakenly posting under Help I meant to posted it under discussion my bad:-( Cc'd opensolaris-discuss to get it over there. This is good in one way, and misleading in another. AFAIK, Oracle support is premium only; no standard, let alone patch+SunSolve only. A home user or small business may not be able to afford premium; and some large places may need premium only on their critical systems, and have enough in-house expertise to use something less on everything else. (Yes, that mixed case would need some safeguards against abuse.) Home user or small business (esp. small business where one person does pretty much everything, or everything other than what temporary workers or independent contractors do) needs low three digit per year per system prices, tops. Either of those may one day grow to control a nontrivial IT budget, but they aren't there now, and yet may not want to do without security and reliability patches and troubleshooting information. I've only got two beefs with Oracle, aside from plain old arrogant corporate attitude (the whole corporate culture thing that clearly had something to do with some of the departures; who the heck needs fridge+microwave police? creative people should get _respect_, not be treated like cogs in the machine!): * no basic support plan * delaying public source updates not just until an Express release, but until an FCS release (assuming they stick to what a reasonable person might think they've said, and follow through on that) The latter could arguably be made more palatable by having early source be under a restrictive license (no incorporation into independent distros) _until_ the FCS comes out (at which time it would become CDDL). Understand me: I want to see source, without dropping megabucks, even though I have no interest in creating my own distro (or feeding it to anyone else's). Most particularly, I'd really like to see as much of the source as possible for what I'm actually running, and a straightforward way of keeping my view of the source in sync with what I'm running. This is quite desirable to make best use of DTrace; and for those of us who have been known to get better results (and better understanding than the documentation provides) by doing our own troubleshooting than by filing a support request (or at least, faster resolution if we've done our own homework first). A very old example: the older (say Solaris 2.6 to Solaris 9 or 10) printing system was not the easiest thing to understand; and setting up maximal BSD lpr compatibility was less than clear, in part because the mapping between lp -T content-types and BSD filters wasn't fully spelled out anywhere. The source code made that (and the limitations, like that troff font related options would be ignored) pretty obvious. I've never had any trouble getting that version of the printing system to do whatever I wanted it to; from hooking in ghostscript to drive an inkjet printer up to making man -t, lpr -f, lpr -d, or even lpr -c (found an old cif2ps program for the latter) work. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] X11 XtAppAddTimeOut is not working properly.
Hi We cant use QT or GNOME here as we are using Xorgs ... Is there any way you can suggest to verify to check the performance impact . -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] X11 XtAppAddTimeOut is not working properly.
Debabrata Debroy wrote: Hi We cant use QT or GNOME here as we are using Xorgs ... That makes no sense. Qt GNOME are both written to work with a variety of X servers, but generally work best on/target Xorg. -- -Alan Coopersmith-alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] X11 XtAppAddTimeOut is not working properly.
I mean we are not in position to deploy a QT framework into the production machine only for these purpose . -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] X11 XtAppAddTimeOut is not working properly.
Richard L. Hamilton wrote: I think libXt uses select(); Yes. one could imagine an alternate implementation that used event ports and a high-resolution timer. It might take a lot of testing to get right though, and high resolution timers require the user to have an additional fine-grained privilege. And since we're all supposed to turn our noses up at libXt, mutter legacy, and move on to using GTK instead, I doubt anyone will bother trying to give XtAppAddTimeOut finer grained resolution without the need for a systemwide change. Anyone who wants to work on enhancing libXt is free to do so and propose improvements to X.Org. No one has cared enough to do so in many years. (I've just applied upstream a number of patches to fix things like missing NULL pointer checks, which are among the few bug fixes we've gotten for libXt since the X.Org Foundation took over maintenance in 2003.) (In case you hadn't noticed, I haven't yet gotten over the move to GNOME, which I think was a loser. If one had to move to some non-Xt toolkit, I'd have preferred Qt (KDE). Not that I've _written_ anything using either, but KDE apps always seem to me to look prettier and respond just a bit faster.) At the time the choice was made, there were many reasons GNOME Gtk were a better fit for Sun Solaris than KDE Qt - many of those have since been solved (like the Qt license issues), but one huge obstacle remains: Qt is a C++ API, and the multitude of C++ ABI issues on Solaris really make that unsuitable for use in system libraries. On Linux, where there's only one C++ compiler that matters, and you just recompile the world when it's ABI changes, life is simpler - but Solaris users who want binary compatibility to be measured in decades, a choice of Studio or GNU C++ compilers, and support for the various versions of ISO/ANSI C++ standards, really have a hard time. -- -Alan Coopersmith-alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris support cheaper than RedHat Ent. linux 6 :-)
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 9:32 AM PDT, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: This is good in one way, and misleading in another. AFAIK, Oracle support is premium only; no standard, let alone patch+SunSolve only. They charge $120/system for only patches, updates, and security support. q.v. Linux section of http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/pricing/price-lists Or are you referring to Solaris pricing? If you're talking about Solaris then yes, their new model appears to be a decision between whole system support (hardware and software) or operating system support. If you take this in context of their Linux pricing it appears that they are suggesting that Solaris has luxury car pricing whereas Linux has economy car pricing. Many on this list as well as those on the Illumos and OpenIndiana lists have argued quite succinctly that Solaris and SPARC are still industry leading technologies that offer a great deal of benefits that just can't be matched by other architectures and/or operating systems. I believe some of the discussion was also centered around RISC vs. CISC as well but you're welcome to look through the archives for your own edification. Understand me: I want to see source, without dropping megabucks, even though I have no interest in creating my own distro (or feeding it to anyone else's). Most particularly, I'd really like to see as much of the source as possible for what I'm actually running, and a straightforward way of keeping my view of the source in sync with what I'm running. AFAIK, the only source that's been restricted is the OS/Net portion of Solaris which was never open sourced in the first place -- it was merely placed in a public repository without any changes to its license and recently moved back to a private repository. See the OS/Net description here for more info: http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+on Everything else has thus far been unrestricted as that's how OpenIndiana has been able to build their distribution in much the same way CentOS and Oracle have been able to build theirs. The biggest differentiation is in the lack of OS/Net updates going forward which is why the Illumos project was formed in the first place. However, we're still waiting to see if/when Oracle delivers their promised source drop of OS/Net but I don't imagine it to come out as regularly as the Express builds but rather after their stable mainline Solaris builds the same way Apple drops their Darwin source only after a major binary patch release. -Gary ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris support cheaper than RedHat Ent. linux 6 :-)
On 11/22/10 10:27, Gary wrote: On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 9:32 AM PDT, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: This is good in one way, and misleading in another. AFAIK, Oracle support is premium only; no standard, let alone patch+SunSolve only. They charge $120/system for only patches, updates, and security support. q.v. Linux section of http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/pricing/price-lists Or are you referring to Solaris pricing? If you're talking about Solaris then yes, their new model appears to be a decision between whole system support (hardware and software) or operating system support. If you take this in context of their Linux pricing it appears that they are suggesting that Solaris has luxury car pricing whereas Linux has economy car pricing. Many on this list as well as those on the Illumos and OpenIndiana lists have argued quite succinctly that Solaris and SPARC are still industry leading technologies that offer a great deal of benefits that just can't be matched by other architectures and/or operating systems. I believe some of the discussion was also centered around RISC vs. CISC as well but you're welcome to look through the archives for your own edification. Understand me: I want to see source, without dropping megabucks, even though I have no interest in creating my own distro (or feeding it to anyone else's). Most particularly, I'd really like to see as much of the source as possible for what I'm actually running, and a straightforward way of keeping my view of the source in sync with what I'm running. AFAIK, the only source that's been restricted is the OS/Net portion of Solaris which was never open sourced in the first place -- it was merely placed in a public repository without any changes to its license and recently moved back to a private repository. See the OS/Net description here for more info: http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+on Everything else has thus far been unrestricted as that's how OpenIndiana has been able to build their distribution in much the same way CentOS and Oracle have been able to build theirs. The biggest differentiation is in the lack of OS/Net updates going forward which is why the Illumos project was formed in the first place. However, we're still waiting to see if/when Oracle delivers their promised source drop of OS/Net but I don't imagine it to come out as regularly as the Express builds but rather after their stable mainline Solaris builds the same way Apple drops their Darwin source only after a major binary patch release. -Gary ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Hi, Joerg Moellenkamp was demo how RedHat's enterprise linux 6(no ZFS like filesystem)support now costs more then solaris support contract at his blog. Personally, I do think redhat is overpricing for RHEL because, it's OS is not self-healing and does not have a filesystem like ZFS;-) http://www.c0t0d0s0.org/archives/7023-New-RedHat-pricing.html ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris support cheaper than RedHat Ent. linux 6 :-)
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:27 AM PDT, I wrote: If you're talking about Solaris then yes, their new model appears to be a decision between whole system support (hardware and software) or operating system support. I should clarify; there are actually three distinct forms of support: 1. OS only support for non Oracle hardware running Solaris x86 2. OS only support for Oracle/Sun hardware running Solaris x86/SPARC 3. full system support for Oracle/Sun hardware and OS Everything else has thus far been unrestricted as that's how OpenIndiana has been able to build their distribution in much the same way CentOS and Oracle have been able to build theirs. It's probably obvious from context but I meant to say that's how CentOS and Oracle build their Linux distributions from Red Hat's source packages. In my experience the value add in choosing Unbreakable Linux over the completely free CentOS is that Oracle has a history of releasing updates much sooner -- especially in full dot releases e.g. 5.0 - 5.5, etc. -Gary ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] upgrade woes, snv_132 - snv_147 - snv_149
On 11/22/10 04:18 AM, Ken Berry wrote: Hi Shawn I am having the similar problem. laptop at snv-148 use GUI Package Manager This is an Live Image. The install operation can't be performed I can OpenConnect or Punchin VPN to Oracle in UK Where is the best place to find the solution? In your case, the best option is to not use the package manager. Use the CLI to update instead: pfexec pkg image-update -Shawn ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] X11 XtAppAddTimeOut is not working properly.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/22/2010 7:01 AM, John Martin wrote: On 11/22/10 12:25 AM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: I believe Linux defaults to a higher resolution timer, something you can enable system-wide on Solaris, ... Just as an experiment to verify, in /etc/system add: set hires_tick = 1 and reboot. Another experiment: With the hires_tick set to the default, try requesting a smaller delay. When you want 10 try asking for 8 or 9. When you want 20 try 18 or 19. If it works you won't need any /etc/system changes. -Kyle ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (MingW32) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJM6saoAAoJEEADRM+bKN5waokH/RJXcoa5doQ63xPI759wgODO 50cLQxTTUNu1H6GaEPGElzSls7++U06fLqowzGQYvb7LCedi9Zx9gSyN3JBdFteq 8kQ+o3UH/h1GFrmG0qPSnwlh/scKUOHzmvV6i9CStAN3Vq54IsWxvMYQ8kUoauCp ogUEYi8SC3aNf4xw7USMvS65IhINJafmjA+N3ufJhOel8qyBCiUSOaHAoqxFqnjU rpYGW4OEUWrvmcV3CKfvA9SlxMmnmSgQ6yswmCJWaVKMKF+5+yZUcO+GzgszY8eU l+rL+hqdy5PlDLh1Ptjkgbt5t/XgG1aNC74IOtlXktMErLw3YpvNgeUAzbWG5Q0= =zkeN -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Zones' init broken after upgrade from OpenSolaris 134b to Solaris11Express
Hello, I've found http://personal.x-istence.com/post/2009/01/18/so-you-want-upgrade-your-zone which helps me a lot. At least in the process of updating 09.06 to snv_134b I've been able to do: 1) image-update global zone 2) mount router zone BE into /mnt + image update /mnt and unmount 3) mount buildbot zone BE into /mnt + image update /mnt and unmount after reboot I've seen 134b in global and both non-global zones. In the process of update 134b - Solaris Express 2010.11 I've not been able to use the way above, since pkg -R /mnt image-update for mounted zone BE does not work. i.e. I've seen just remove phase running, installation nor update phase was performed. Hence I used this way: 1) image-update global zone 2) reboot to Sol11Express 3) halt zone; detach zone; attach -a zone; (done for both zones) that was partially successful since in buildbot zone something is screwed badly now and I'm not able to boot it nor detach/attach again since zoneadm always complains about: ERROR: multiple active datasets. i.e.: $ pfexec zoneadm -z buildbot boot zone 'buildbot': ERROR: multiple active datasets. zone 'buildbot': zoneadm: zone 'buildbot': call to zoneadmd failed $ pfexec zoneadm -z buildbot verify $ pfexec zoneadm -z buildbot detach ERROR: multiple active datasets. Does anybody here do have an idea how this issue should be fixed? Thanks, Karel -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] something about solaris 11 express license(OTN)
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Edward Ned Harvey sh...@nedharvey.com wrote: From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris- discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Dmitry G. Kozhinov am serious. I am administering a web server at a university, and my organization would never pay $1K yearly for allowing this thing just run. I Check the license, or call the sales line. I believe they have something available for educational institutions. I would be curious to know if that's the case. The license doesn't say anything about educational use, and so far nothing I've heard here has suggested that there's a discount for educational institutions. I wouldn't be buying more than a couple licenses, so I doubt they'd consider it worth their while to cut a deal with me. As it is, I'm looking at moving to one of the forked distributions. -- David Brodbeck System Administrator, Linguistics University of Washington ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] System Firewall - how to enable
Please provide a copy of your ipf.conf. In the mean time, have you looked at other ipfilter resources to check your rule syntax? q.v. the config file's man page at http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/819-2251/ipf-4?l=alla=view, this sysadmin guide entry at http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/819-3000/eupsq?l=ena=view, this FAQ at http://www.phildev.net/ipf, and some of the resources listed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipfilter -Gary ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] something about solaris 11 express license(OTN)
I I would be curious to know if that's the case. The license doesn't say anything about educational use, and so far nothing I've heard here has suggested that there's a discount for educational institutions. I wouldn't be buying more than a couple licenses, so I doubt they'd consider it worth their while to cut a deal with me. As it is, I'm looking at moving to one of the forked distributions. -- David Brodbeck System Administrator, Linguistics University of Washington ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org hi, Only Oracle delivers the most comprehensive, adaptable solutions to meet the needs of small institutions as well as large, multi-location school districts and university systems. * 20 of the top 20 academic universities worldwide get better results with Oracle * Oracle contributed more than US$ 2 billion to education worldwide in 2010 through its various education initiatives, benefitting 1.2 million students in 95 countries * 10 of the top 10 research universities in the U.S. get better results with Oracle * The U.S. Department of Education gets better results with Oracle http://www.oracle.com/us/industries/education-and-research/index.html Oracle Products for Education and Research IT Infrastructure * PeopleSoft Campus Solutions Complete * Oracle's Sun Servers and Storage * Oracle Exalogic Elastic Cloud * Oracle Solaris Operating System * Oracle Virtual Desktop Infrastructure http://www.oracle.com/us/industries/education-and-research/046910.html -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] X11 XtAppAddTimeOut is not working properly.
On Nov 22, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Richard L. Hamilton wrote: I think libXt uses select(); Yes. one could imagine an alternate implementation that used event ports and a high-resolution timer. It might take a lot of testing to get right though, and high resolution timers require the user to have an additional fine-grained privilege. And since we're all supposed to turn our noses up at libXt, mutter legacy, and move on to using GTK instead, I doubt anyone will bother trying to give XtAppAddTimeOut finer grained resolution without the need for a systemwide change. Anyone who wants to work on enhancing libXt is free to do so and propose improvements to X.Org. No one has cared enough to do so in many years. (I've just applied upstream a number of patches to fix things like missing NULL pointer checks, which are among the few bug fixes we've gotten for libXt since the X.Org Foundation took over maintenance in 2003.) That's appreciated! And I know you're just telling how it is. Better to hear it straight than not, but doesn't mean I'm going to like what I hear. :-/ (I think it's time to nag the guy that filed the petition to open source CDE, to find out if he's heard anything more in the last year or two...) (In case you hadn't noticed, I haven't yet gotten over the move to GNOME, which I think was a loser. If one had to move to some non-Xt toolkit, I'd have preferred Qt (KDE). Not that I've _written_ anything using either, but KDE apps always seem to me to look prettier and respond just a bit faster.) At the time the choice was made, there were many reasons GNOME Gtk were a better fit for Sun Solaris than KDE Qt - many of those have since been solved (like the Qt license issues), but one huge obstacle remains: Qt is a C++ API, and the multitude of C++ ABI issues on Solaris really make that unsuitable for use in system libraries. On Linux, where there's only one C++ compiler that matters, and you just recompile the world when it's ABI changes, life is simpler - but Solaris users who want binary compatibility to be measured in decades, a choice of Studio or GNU C++ compilers, and support for the various versions of ISO/ANSI C++ standards, really have a hard time. I think the C++ problem (the general case) could be solved if the will were there. From what I've heard, the GNU implementation is more flexible/more fully covers some cases (maybe at a slight performance cost or something). If (outside of language updates) they could stabilize on it, I would think that Studio could move to that approach for new code (keeping some level of old ABI support for awhile for compatibility). http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=1996354tstart=90messageID=8451795#8451795 said that Studio 13 was expected to include g++ ABI compatibility, although that was early 2009, presumably before it took just slightly less than a deity (I wonder if some at that level remember the slightly less part, or all the cautionary tales about hubris) to approve comments about future products. But for now, I suppose we're stuck with GNOME. The RAM vendors must be making a killing... ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] something about solaris 11 express license(OTN)
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Edward Martinez mindbende...@live.com wrote: Only Oracle delivers the most comprehensive, adaptable solutions to meet the needs of small institutions as well as large, multi-location school districts and university systems. I'm aware of the ad copy. What I'm more interested is in whether they offer any kind of discount in small quantities. I mean, I'm sure if someone negotiated a site license for the whole campus they could get a deal, but I'm not in a position to do that. I also don't have a lot of time and patience for messing around with companies with deliberately obfuscated pricing structures, and Oracle seems to be in that category. -- David Brodbeck System Administrator, Linguistics University of Washington ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] System Firewall - how to enable
On 11/22/10 03:17 PM, Gary wrote: Please provide a copy of your ipf.conf. In the mean time, have you looked at other ipfilter resources to check your rule syntax? q.v. the config file's man page at http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/819-2251/ipf-4?l=alla=view, this sysadmin guide entry at http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/819-3000/eupsq?l=ena=view, this FAQ at http://www.phildev.net/ipf, and some of the resources listed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipfilter -Gary ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Hi Gary, I am more concern about not been able to enable the firewall via the GUI. Here is my /etc/ipf/ipf.conf file, some IPs have been masked. I know the file work, see the output from ipfstat. r...@xxx:/etc/ipf# ipfstat -i block in log quick from any to any with short block in log from any to any with ipopts pass in quick on lo0 all block in on e1000g0 all pass in log quick on e1000g0 proto tcp from 130.xx.xx.0/24 to any pass in log quick on e1000g0 proto tcp from 130.xx.xx.0/24 to any pass in log quick on e1000g0 proto tcp from 130.xx.xx.0/24 to any pass in log quick on e1000g0 proto tcp from 130.xx.xx.0/24 to any r...@p:/etc/ipf# ipfstat -o pass out quick on lo0 all block out on el000g0 all pass out quick on e1000g0 proto icmp from any to any keep state pass out quick on e1000g0 proto tcp/udp from any to any keep state # # ipf.conf # # IP Filter rules to be loaded during startup # # See ipf(4) manpage for more information on # IP Filter rules syntax. # Block any packets which are too short to be real block in log quick all with short # drop and log any IP packets with options set in them. block in log all with ipopts # Allow all traffic on loopback. pass in quick on lo0 all pass out quick on lo0 all block in on e1000g0 all block out on el000g0 all # Allow pings out. pass out quick on e1000g0 proto icmp all keep state # Allow outbound state related packets pass out quick on e1000g0 proto tcp/udp from any to any keep state # Allow these subnets pass in log quick on e1000g0 proto tcp from 130.xx.xx.0/24 pass in log quick on e1000g0 proto tcp from 130.xx.xx.0/24 pass in log quick on e1000g0 proto tcp from 130.xx.xx.0/24 pass in log quick on e1000g0 proto tcp from 130.xx.xx.0/24 Thanks Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] something about solaris 11 express license(OTN)
On 11/22/10 12:46, David Brodbeck wrote: On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Edward Martinezmindbende...@live.com wrote: Only Oracle delivers the most comprehensive, adaptable solutions to meet the needs of small institutions as well as large, multi-location school districts and university systems. I'm aware of the ad copy. What I'm more interested is in whether they offer any kind of discount in small quantities. I mean, I'm sure if someone negotiated a site license for the whole campus they could get a deal, but I'm not in a position to do that. I also don't have a lot of time and patience for messing around with companies with deliberately obfuscated pricing structures, and Oracle seems to be in that category. Hi If i were in this position, I would give them a call or email them I have emailed oracle couple of times before and their personnel are fast to reply and extremely polite. Regards Edward ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] // Solaris Express 11 is working with napp-it web-GUI
Hi again, Solaris Express 11 being installed on my i386 box, I am now trying to install [i]napp-it[/i], using the given syntax: [i]wget -O - www.napp-it.org/nappit04 | perl[/i] There is a problem though, and napp-it won't install; here is a dump of the terminal window: any suggestion? --- start quote step 1a: check os, setup napp-it or updating to the most current version now please wait uname -a: SunOS SEx_ZFS 5.11 snv_151a i86pc i386 i86pc step 1b: download the most current version of napp-it now via wget please wait new napp-it is napp-it-0.402c start download now... deleting old zip-file ok, downloaded napp-it-0.402c.zip, unzip it now.. ### oi 1.0 create boot environment - select it at boot-menue in case of problems - Unable to create pre_napp-it-0.402c_update_11.22. BE pre_napp-it-0.402c_update_11.22 already exists. Please choose a different BE name. BE/DatasetActive Mountpoint Space Policy Created ---- -- - -- --- pre_afp_update_11.22 rpool/ROOT/pre_afp_update_11.22- - 203.0K static 2010-11-22 21:42 pre_napp-it-0.402c_update_11.22 rpool/ROOT/pre_napp-it-0.402c_update_11.22 - - 194.0K static 2010-11-22 21:14 solaris rpool/ROOT/solaris NR / 4.51G static 2010-11-22 17:00 ### oi 1.1 unzip napp-it - unzip: cannot find or open /home/robert/napp-it-0.402c.zip, /home/robert/napp-it-0.402c.zip.zip or /home/robert/napp-it-0.402c.zip.ZIP. ### something went wrong, needed Folder /home/robert/web-gui is missing - --- end quote -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] solaris 11 express and xvm
Is there any specifics somewhere about what the known issues are? I'm currently on OSOL 126 (have been holding back primarily because of xvm) On a tangential note, what does OpenIndiana use for VM (I read that it doesn't support xvm but does it support kvm instead or something else?) -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
