Re: [osol-discuss] http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2007/061807-zfs-on-linux.html

2007-06-26 Thread Aubrey Li

On 6/25/07, carlos antonio neira bustos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

one of the jewels has been stolen ...


Don't keep so many ramparts, Please. If one day a new operating system
is born including all of the Jewels of solaris and linux, I think we
should cheer.

-Aubrey
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Re: [osol-discuss] http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2007/061807-zfs-on-linux.html

2007-06-25 Thread Casper . Dik

 Will ZFS be more stable on its native OS or in userland on Linux? It
 could be stable on both but I suspect a risk averse decision maker would
 use ZFS on a Solaris and one of the more well-supported filesystems for
 Linux...

Right now...I think I would not have much of a choice if you are
talking about stability. ZFS will panic the Solaris kernel if it
cannot write...but on Linux, it would merely cause the ZFS userspace
daemon to crash and not bring the whole system down.


And what happens then?  Are all ZFS vnodes then gone *or* is the write
which couldn't be done silently discarded?


The nice thing about the panic is that the application is stopped in its
track and knows that it needs to start recovering.

If you kill the ZFS daemon and restart it, data *is* lost but will the
application find out.

It seems that you may just have lost one of the nice properties of ZFS.

Not that I think the system should panic; the file in question should be
marked bad and further I/O should fail with EIO as should fsync().

Casper

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Re: [osol-discuss] http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2007/061807-zfs-on-linux.html

2007-06-25 Thread Giles Turner

Will ZFS be more stable on its native OS or in userland on Linux? It
could be stable on both but I suspect a risk averse decision maker would
use ZFS on a Solaris and one of the more well-supported filesystems for
Linux...


Right now...I think I would not have much of a choice if you are
talking about stability. ZFS will panic the Solaris kernel if it
cannot write...but on Linux, it would merely cause the ZFS userspace
daemon to crash and not bring the whole system down.
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Re: [osol-discuss] http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2007/061807-zfs-on-linux.html

2007-06-25 Thread Ghee Teo

carlos antonio neira bustos wrote:

one of the jewels has been stolen ...
  
 More like one of the jewels have been cloned and that makes the 
original even more precious :)


-Ghee
 
 
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Re: [osol-discuss] http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2007/061807-zfs-on-linux.html

2007-06-25 Thread 陶捷 Euler Tao

userland filesystem? what does it mean?
sounds strange...


2007/6/25, carlos antonio neira bustos [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


one of the jewels has been stolen ...


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Re: [osol-discuss] http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2007/061807-zfs-on-linux.html

2007-06-25 Thread Joerg Schilling
carlos antonio neira bustos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 one of the jewels has been stolen ...

What do you mean has been stolen?

Jörg

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[osol-discuss] http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2007/061807-zfs-on-linux.html

2007-06-24 Thread carlos antonio neira bustos
one of the jewels has been stolen ...
 
 
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Re: [osol-discuss] http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2007/061807-zfs-on-linux.html

2007-06-24 Thread Casper . Dik

one of the jewels has been stolen ...


You can't steal free software.  (Though some disagree)


Casper

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Re: [osol-discuss] http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2007/061807-zfs-on-linux.html

2007-06-24 Thread Shawn Walker

On 24/06/07, carlos antonio neira bustos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

one of the jewels has been stolen ...


You can't steal what you freely been given permission to use.

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Re: [osol-discuss] http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2007/061807-zfs-on-linux.html

2007-06-24 Thread David Lloyd


Hmmm...


On 24/06/07, carlos antonio neira bustos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

one of the jewels has been stolen ...


You can't steal what you freely been given permission to use.


Will ZFS be more stable on its native OS or in userland on Linux? It 
could be stable on both but I suspect a risk averse decision maker would 
use ZFS on a Solaris and one of the more well-supported filesystems for 
Linux...


DSL
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