Re: [openssl-dev] 0.9.8 support after 31 Dec 2015

2015-07-24 Thread Florian Weimer
On 07/21/2015 01:16 PM, Brad House wrote:

 I'm sure you're not the only one that will be needing to support 0.9.8
 after the
 official EOL.  RedHat Enterprise Linux 5 comes to mind (supported until
 3/2017),
 so there will definitely be others providing security related patches.

On the other hand, Red Hat will only backport critical security fixes to
Red Hant Enterprise Linux 5 because it is in Production Phase 3.  This
is considerably narrower than what is currently provided by OpenSSL
upstream 0.9.8.

(The main problem people have with 0.9.8 right now is lack of TLS
1.1/1.2 support, and fixing that while preserving binary compatibility
with 0.9.8 is quite a challenge.)

-- 
Florian Weimer / Red Hat Product Security
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Re: [openssl-dev] 0.9.8 support after 31 Dec 2015

2015-07-21 Thread Theodore Ts'o
Perhaps a good model to take would be how the Linux kernel hands
ancient stable kernels.  After a while, Greg K-H stops supporting a
long-term stable kernel.  In some cases, a volunteer will step up and
continue supporting some ancient kernel.  Those ancient kernels don't
get all bug fixes, and not even all security fixes.  What they get is
up to the volunteer.

In the Linux kernel case, those ancient stable kernels are listed on
the front page of www.kernel.org.  I sometimes fear that some people
believe that all security fixes make it into, say, 2.6.32, or 3.2 or
3.4.  In fact, I'm pretty sure there are cases when they don't, and
one could make the case that the fact those ancient kernels are listed
on the front page is a bad thing since it reduces the pressure on
vendors to upgrade to something more recent and more secure.

Given that OpenSSL is a security-focused product, that might be a
reason why it might not be a good idea to have such kernels advertised
on the front page.  But certainly having a single community-supported
ancient release is probably better than multiple independent release
engineers trying to support an ancient release.  Much better of course
would be to get everyone to upgrade.  :-)

  - Ted
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[openssl-dev] 0.9.8 support after 31 Dec 2015

2015-07-21 Thread Vincent Maury
Hi,

You announced (https://www.openssl.org/about/releasestrat.html) that 0.9.8* 
versions of OpenSSL will be EOL on 31 Dec 2015.
Although I do understand this generation is getting old and support needs to be 
ceased at some point, could we (0.9.8 users!) expect patch suggestions from the 
community on potential vulnerabilities found in 2016, in a best effort approach 
of course, without any official release?
This would let us patch, build on our OS, test and potentially keep fixing 
security issues on historical users...

Thanks a lot in advance for your answer,
Regards,

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Re: [openssl-dev] 0.9.8 support after 31 Dec 2015

2015-07-21 Thread Vincent Maury
Yes of course.
But will the dev team suggest backports on this unofficial branch? Can I 
reasonably expect fixes?

-Message d'origine-
De : openssl-dev [mailto:openssl-dev-boun...@openssl.org] De la part de Salz, 
Rich
Envoyé : mardi 21 juillet 2015 13:04
À : openssl-dev@openssl.org
Objet : Re: [openssl-dev] 0.9.8 support after 31 Dec 2015

 could we (0.9.8 users!) expect patch suggestions from the community on 
 potential vulnerabilities found in 2016, in a best effort approach of course, 
 without any official release?

The best thing to do will probably be to fork the branch into a new repository 
on github and work there.  We will not be checking anything into the official 
stable branch.

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Re: [openssl-dev] 0.9.8 support after 31 Dec 2015

2015-07-21 Thread Kurt Cancemi
Rich,

I think he was asking if the OpenSSL team would say if a new vulnerability 
affected 0.9.8 after support has ended.

 On Jul 21, 2015, at 7:04 AM, Salz, Rich rs...@akamai.com wrote:
 
 could we (0.9.8 users!) expect patch suggestions from the community on 
 potential vulnerabilities found in 2016, in a best effort approach of 
 course, without any official release?
 
 The best thing to do will probably be to fork the branch into a new 
 repository on github and work there.  We will not be checking anything into 
 the official stable branch.
 
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Re: [openssl-dev] 0.9.8 support after 31 Dec 2015

2015-07-21 Thread Brad House

could we (0.9.8 users!) expect patch suggestions from the community on 
potential vulnerabilities found in 2016, in a best effort approach of course, 
without any official release?


The best thing to do will probably be to fork the branch into a new repository on github 
and work there.  We will not be checking anything into the official stable 
branch.


I'm sure you're not the only one that will be needing to support 0.9.8 after the
official EOL.  RedHat Enterprise Linux 5 comes to mind (supported until 3/2017),
so there will definitely be others providing security related patches.
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Re: [openssl-dev] 0.9.8 support after 31 Dec 2015

2015-07-21 Thread Salz, Rich
 could we (0.9.8 users!) expect patch suggestions from the community on 
 potential vulnerabilities found in 2016, in a best effort approach of course, 
 without any official release?

The best thing to do will probably be to fork the branch into a new repository 
on github and work there.  We will not be checking anything into the official 
stable branch.

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Re: [openssl-dev] 0.9.8 support after 31 Dec 2015

2015-07-21 Thread Vincent Maury
That's a pretty clear answer.
Thank you very much for your reactiveness.
Vincent

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De : openssl-dev [mailto:openssl-dev-boun...@openssl.org] De la part de Erwann 
Abalea
Envoyé : mardi 21 juillet 2015 13:18
À : openssl-dev@openssl.org
Objet : Re: [openssl-dev] 0.9.8 support after 31 Dec 2015

Bonjour,

 Le 21 juil. 2015 à 13:11, Vincent Maury vma...@denyall.com a écrit :
 
 Yes of course.
 But will the dev team suggest backports on this unofficial branch? Can I 
 reasonably expect fixes?

*Suggest* backports, that may or may not be reasonable, depending on growing 
difference between 0.9.8 and head version at the time of vulnerability 
detection.
*Expect* fixes, this seems incompatible with an EOL decision.

 -Message d'origine-
 De : openssl-dev [mailto:openssl-dev-boun...@openssl.org] De la part 
 de Salz, Rich Envoyé : mardi 21 juillet 2015 13:04 À : 
 openssl-dev@openssl.org Objet : Re: [openssl-dev] 0.9.8 support after 
 31 Dec 2015
 
 could we (0.9.8 users!) expect patch suggestions from the community on 
 potential vulnerabilities found in 2016, in a best effort approach of 
 course, without any official release?
 
 The best thing to do will probably be to fork the branch into a new 
 repository on github and work there.  We will not be checking anything into 
 the official stable branch.
 

Cordialement,
Erwann Abalea

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Re: [openssl-dev] 0.9.8 support after 31 Dec 2015

2015-07-21 Thread Salz, Rich

 But will the dev team suggest backports on this unofficial branch? Can I
 reasonably expect fixes?

Anything is possible, but I would be very surprised.
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Re: [openssl-dev] 0.9.8 support after 31 Dec 2015

2015-07-21 Thread Erwann Abalea
Bonjour,

 Le 21 juil. 2015 à 13:11, Vincent Maury vma...@denyall.com a écrit :
 
 Yes of course.
 But will the dev team suggest backports on this unofficial branch? Can I 
 reasonably expect fixes?

*Suggest* backports, that may or may not be reasonable, depending on growing 
difference between 0.9.8 and head version at the time of vulnerability 
detection.
*Expect* fixes, this seems incompatible with an EOL decision.

 -Message d'origine-
 De : openssl-dev [mailto:openssl-dev-boun...@openssl.org] De la part de Salz, 
 Rich
 Envoyé : mardi 21 juillet 2015 13:04
 À : openssl-dev@openssl.org
 Objet : Re: [openssl-dev] 0.9.8 support after 31 Dec 2015
 
 could we (0.9.8 users!) expect patch suggestions from the community on 
 potential vulnerabilities found in 2016, in a best effort approach of 
 course, without any official release?
 
 The best thing to do will probably be to fork the branch into a new 
 repository on github and work there.  We will not be checking anything into 
 the official stable branch.
 

Cordialement,
Erwann Abalea

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Re: [openssl-dev] 0.9.8 support after 31 Dec 2015

2015-07-21 Thread Salz, Rich
 I think he was asking if the OpenSSL team would say if a new vulnerability
 affected 0.9.8 after support has ended.

No.

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