Re: Exportable cipher suite

2001-02-19 Thread Mark H. Wood

On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Patrick Li wrote:
 Thanks for the information.  Does that mean there is no longer restrictions
 on using any of the cipher suites specified by TLS or SSL outside of the US?
 
 Sorry for a simple question.  But is it still the case that only Canada and
 US are allowed to use browers with 128 bit encryption strength?

Who is the party who would allow one nation but not another to use an
algorithm, and punish infractions?  You should check with local laws at
the point of use to find out what you are permitted to *use*.  The U.S.
once had rather severe restrictions on what encryption *products* could be
*exported*, but citizens could *use* whatever would work so long as they
didn't try to send the software *itself* out of the country.  (One
exception is amateur radio, which used to be *heavily* restricted as to
the nature of the signal used to modulate the carrier.  This was many
years ago, and I don't know the current situation.)

The U. S. still maintains a pretense of regulation, though it is very much
relaxed.  You should get advice from an attorney with experience in export
law before attempting to export from the U.S. or Canada any given
technology for secure communication.

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Exportable cipher suite

2001-02-16 Thread Patrick Li

Hi,

Can someone explain what does exportable cipher suite mean?  The man page of
openssl ciphers "EXPORT" says it returns all the export encryption
algorithms. Including 40 and 56 bits algorithms.

But does that mean those ciphers suites are legal to use outside of United
States?

Thanks
Patrick

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Re: Exportable cipher suite

2001-02-16 Thread Rich Salz

 Can someone explain what does exportable cipher suite mean?

It means "at the time EXPORT was defined, it was ciphers that were legal
to export outside of the US."  Actually, in practice it really meant
what ciphers were supported by browsers exported from the US.

Unless you have a large installed base of old browsers (1 year), ignore
it; export no longer has any meaning right now.
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Re: Exportable cipher suite

2001-02-16 Thread Patrick Li

Thanks for the information.  Does that mean there is no longer restrictions
on using any of the cipher suites specified by TLS or SSL outside of the US?

Sorry for a simple question.  But is it still the case that only Canada and
US are allowed to use browers with 128 bit encryption strength?

Patrick

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  Can someone explain what does exportable cipher suite mean?

 It means "at the time EXPORT was defined, it was ciphers that were legal
 to export outside of the US."  Actually, in practice it really meant
 what ciphers were supported by browsers exported from the US.

 Unless you have a large installed base of old browsers (1 year), ignore
 it; export no longer has any meaning right now.
 /r$
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Re: Exportable cipher suite

2001-02-16 Thread Ben Laurie

Patrick Li wrote:
 
 Thanks for the information.  Does that mean there is no longer restrictions
 on using any of the cipher suites specified by TLS or SSL outside of the US?

There never were restrictions on _using_ them, only on exporting.

 Sorry for a simple question.  But is it still the case that only Canada and
 US are allowed to use browers with 128 bit encryption strength?

That has never been the case.

Cheers,

Ben.

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