Re: [Openstack] [openstack-dev] [cinder] Proposal for Ollie Leahy to join cinder-core
-1 I'm sorry to do that, and it really has nothing to do with Ollie or his work (which I appreciate very much). The main reason is that right now Cinder core has 8 members: 1. Avishay Traeger (IBM) 2. Duncan Thomas (HP) 3. Eric Harney (RedHat) 4. Huang Zhiteng (Intel) 5. John Griffith (SolidFire) 6. Josh Durgin (Inktank) 7. Mike Perez (DreamHost) 8. Walt Boring (HP) Adding another core team member from HP means that 1/3 of the core team is from HP. I believe that we should strive to have the core team be as diverse as possible, with as many companies as possible represented (big and small alike). I think that's one of the keys to keeping a project healthy and on the right track (nothing against HP - I would say the same for IBM or any other company). Further, we appointed two core members fairly recently (Walt and Eric), and I don't feel that we have a shortage at this time. Again, nothing personal against Ollie, Duncan, HP, or anyone else. Thanks, Avishay From: Duncan Thomas duncan.tho...@gmail.com To: Openstack (openstack@lists.launchpad.net) (openstack@lists.launchpad.net) openstack@lists.launchpad.net, OpenStack Development Mailing List openstack-...@lists.openstack.org, Date: 07/17/2013 06:18 PM Subject:[openstack-dev] [cinder] Proposal for Ollie Leahy to join cinder-core Hi Everybody I'd like to propose Ollie Leahy for cinder core. He has been doing plenty of reviews and bug fixes, provided useful and tasteful negative reviews (something often of far higher value than a +1) and has joined in various design discussions. Thanks -- Duncan Thomas Cinder Core, HP Cloud Services ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list openstack-...@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] [openstack-dev] [cinder] Proposal for Ollie Leahy to join cinder-core
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Avishay Traeger avis...@il.ibm.comwrote: -1 I'm sorry to do that, and it really has nothing to do with Ollie or his work (which I appreciate very much). The main reason is that right now Cinder core has 8 members: 1. Avishay Traeger (IBM) 2. Duncan Thomas (HP) 3. Eric Harney (RedHat) 4. Huang Zhiteng (Intel) 5. John Griffith (SolidFire) 6. Josh Durgin (Inktank) 7. Mike Perez (DreamHost) 8. Walt Boring (HP) Adding another core team member from HP means that 1/3 of the core team is from HP. I believe that we should strive to have the core team be as diverse as possible, with as many companies as possible represented (big and small alike). I think that's one of the keys to keeping a project healthy and on the right track (nothing against HP - I would say the same for IBM or any other company). Further, we appointed two core members fairly recently (Walt and Eric), and I don't feel that we have a shortage at this time. Again, nothing personal against Ollie, Duncan, HP, or anyone else. Thanks, Avishay From: Duncan Thomas duncan.tho...@gmail.com To: Openstack (openstack@lists.launchpad.net) (openstack@lists.launchpad.net) openstack@lists.launchpad.net, OpenStack Development Mailing List openstack-...@lists.openstack.org, Date: 07/17/2013 06:18 PM Subject:[openstack-dev] [cinder] Proposal for Ollie Leahy to join cinder-core Hi Everybody I'd like to propose Ollie Leahy for cinder core. He has been doing plenty of reviews and bug fixes, provided useful and tasteful negative reviews (something often of far higher value than a +1) and has joined in various design discussions. Thanks -- Duncan Thomas Cinder Core, HP Cloud Services ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list openstack-...@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp Just to point out a few things here, first off there is no guideline that states a company affiliation should have anything to do with the decision on voting somebody as core. I have ABSOLUTELY NO concern about representation of company affiliation what so ever. Quite frankly I wouldn't mind if there were 20 core members from HP, if they're all actively engaged and participating then that's great. I don't think there has been ANY incidence of folks exerting inappropriate influence based on their affiliated interest, and if there ever was I think it would be easy to identify and address. As far as don't need more I don't agree with that either, if there are folks contributing and doing the work then there's no reason not to add them. Cinder IMO does NOT have an excess of reviewers by a very very long stretch. The criteria here should be review consistency and quality as well as knowledge of the project, nothing more nothing less. If there's an objection to the individuals participation or contribution that's fine, but company affiliation should have no bearing. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] [openstack-dev] [cinder] Proposal for Ollie Leahy to join cinder-core
On 07/17/2013 02:35 PM, John Griffith wrote: snip Just to point out a few things here, first off there is no guideline that states a company affiliation should have anything to do with the decision on voting somebody as core. I have ABSOLUTELY NO concern about representation of company affiliation what so ever. Quite frankly I wouldn't mind if there were 20 core members from HP, if they're all actively engaged and participating then that's great. I don't think there has been ANY incidence of folks exerting inappropriate influence based on their affiliated interest, and if there ever was I think it would be easy to identify and address. As far as don't need more I don't agree with that either, if there are folks contributing and doing the work then there's no reason not to add them. Cinder IMO does NOT have an excess of reviewers by a very very long stretch. The criteria here should be review consistency and quality as well as knowledge of the project, nothing more nothing less. If there's an objection to the individuals participation or contribution that's fine, but company affiliation should have no bearing. +1 The people that do great work on reviews, should really be your review team, regardless of affiliation. -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] [openstack-dev] [cinder] Proposal for Ollie Leahy to join cinder-core
I’m not a core member anymore, but I completely agree with John. The company affiliation should not be the reason to deny somebody’s promotion to the core team. If core members from the particular company will try to influence the project development in the wrong way – it will be a completely different story. Regards, -Vladimir *From:* Openstack [mailto:openstack-bounces+vladimir= zadarastorage@lists.launchpad.net] *On Behalf Of *John Griffith *Sent:* Wednesday, July 17, 2013 11:36 AM *To:* Avishay Traeger *Cc:* OpenStack Development Mailing List; Openstack ( openstack@lists.launchpad.net) (openstack@lists.launchpad.net) *Subject:* Re: [Openstack] [openstack-dev] [cinder] Proposal for Ollie Leahy to join cinder-core On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Avishay Traeger avis...@il.ibm.com wrote: -1 I'm sorry to do that, and it really has nothing to do with Ollie or his work (which I appreciate very much). The main reason is that right now Cinder core has 8 members: 1. Avishay Traeger (IBM) 2. Duncan Thomas (HP) 3. Eric Harney (RedHat) 4. Huang Zhiteng (Intel) 5. John Griffith (SolidFire) 6. Josh Durgin (Inktank) 7. Mike Perez (DreamHost) 8. Walt Boring (HP) Adding another core team member from HP means that 1/3 of the core team is from HP. I believe that we should strive to have the core team be as diverse as possible, with as many companies as possible represented (big and small alike). I think that's one of the keys to keeping a project healthy and on the right track (nothing against HP - I would say the same for IBM or any other company). Further, we appointed two core members fairly recently (Walt and Eric), and I don't feel that we have a shortage at this time. Again, nothing personal against Ollie, Duncan, HP, or anyone else. Thanks, Avishay From: Duncan Thomas duncan.tho...@gmail.com To: Openstack (openstack@lists.launchpad.net) (openstack@lists.launchpad.net) openstack@lists.launchpad.net, OpenStack Development Mailing List openstack-...@lists.openstack.org, Date: 07/17/2013 06:18 PM Subject:[openstack-dev] [cinder] Proposal for Ollie Leahy to join cinder-core Hi Everybody I'd like to propose Ollie Leahy for cinder core. He has been doing plenty of reviews and bug fixes, provided useful and tasteful negative reviews (something often of far higher value than a +1) and has joined in various design discussions. Thanks -- Duncan Thomas Cinder Core, HP Cloud Services ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list openstack-...@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp Just to point out a few things here, first off there is no guideline that states a company affiliation should have anything to do with the decision on voting somebody as core. I have ABSOLUTELY NO concern about representation of company affiliation what so ever. Quite frankly I wouldn't mind if there were 20 core members from HP, if they're all actively engaged and participating then that's great. I don't think there has been ANY incidence of folks exerting inappropriate influence based on their affiliated interest, and if there ever was I think it would be easy to identify and address. As far as don't need more I don't agree with that either, if there are folks contributing and doing the work then there's no reason not to add them. Cinder IMO does NOT have an excess of reviewers by a very very long stretch. The criteria here should be review consistency and quality as well as knowledge of the project, nothing more nothing less. If there's an objection to the individuals participation or contribution that's fine, but company affiliation should have no bearing. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
