Re: [opensuse-factory] Default wallpaper in KDE
If you have a concenrete 100% free suggestion, let us here it. Insulting our artist won't surely help you in any way. OK, So I would prefer to see SUSE Linux 10.0 default wallpaper on 10.2, because it's most beautyful up to now. Really, the 10.2 wallpaper is a bit primitive / out-of-place. Also, I would like older beautyful wallpapers from SUSE 9.1 to be included. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Can't add factory/ins-source
I have been trying to add factory every possible way in beta2 installation but it fails. So I started a fresh install from there to see what would happen. It's been loading the initial 70 meg system for about half an hour now and 5% has come. The address is http://ftp.opensuse.org/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source Is the address in the first place? I can browse there without any problem. -- Vahis Sometimes I reply to top posters. Seldom. And usually just once. Motorcycling, Boating and SUSE Linux: http://waxborg.servepics.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Can't add factory/ins-source
Hugo Costelha wrote: On Saturday 18 November 2006 08:51, Vahis wrote: I have been trying to add factory every possible way in beta2 installation but it fails. So I started a fresh install from there to see what would happen. It's been loading the initial 70 meg system for about half an hour now and 5% has come. The address is http://ftp.opensuse.org/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-sourc e Is the address in the first place? I can browse there without any problem. Try to use a mirror instead of using opensuse. See http://en.opensuse.org/Factory_Mirror_List Well I wouldn't be asking this if I hadn't, several mirrors :) Example: Adding Heidelberg in YaST File /suse/setup/descr/32bit-10.2-104.x86_64.pat not found on media: ftp://ftp.uni-heidelberg.de/pub/linux/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source Then I choose to skip because I don't need the 64 bit anyway: ftp://ftp.uni-heidelberg.de/pub/linux/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source Unknown Error: Can't provide : User-requested skipping of a file I've been playing with this now for a few days. The errors are something like that, always a little different. I've tried YaST, rug and Zen GUI, the Globe. I think this might be due to the servers being in different stages of syncing to the factory? Depending what method I use and depending what is found on the server the source either starts to create and stops or doesn't start at all. If I am able to add one of them and then stick with it I think it should be OK. As I'm typing this now, Chemnitz looks good so far... The original installation is from the dvd-image and has been working brilliantly :) -- Vahis Sometimes I reply to top posters. Seldom. And usually just once. Motorcycling, Boating and SUSE Linux: http://waxborg.servepics.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Some notes about beta2
1. Firefox doesnt use installed myspell dictionaries??? I had to manually link these into /usr/lib/firefox/dictionaries... 2. Kickoff - to move between menu levels, you have to click on arrows. It is really annoying. 3. K3b - at first start it recommends to set rights for cdrecord using K3bsetup. Cannot find k3bsetup... ain - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Can't add factory/ins-source
On 2006/11/18 13:44 (GMT+0200) Vahis apparently typed: File /suse/setup/descr/32bit-10.2-104.x86_64.pat not found on media: Though I only use 32 bit, I've been encountering this x86_64.pat not found on multiple mirrors for past several days. It seems the only mirrors that don't have this problem are very slow, making ftp install take 3 hours instead of 1 hour. -- Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven. Matthew 5:12 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Can't add factory/ins-source
Hi, On Sat, 18 Nov 2006, Felix Miata wrote: On 2006/11/18 13:44 (GMT+0200) Vahis apparently typed: File /suse/setup/descr/32bit-10.2-104.x86_64.pat not found on media: Though I only use 32 bit, I've been encountering this x86_64.pat not found on multiple mirrors for past several days. It seems the only mirrors that don't have this problem are very slow, making ftp install take 3 hours instead of 1 hour. The recent file is named 32bit-10.2-119.x86_64.pat, dated 2006-11-14. Cheers -e -- Eberhard Moenkeberg ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Some notes about beta2
On Saturday 18 November 2006 11:54, Ain Vagula wrote: 1. Firefox doesnt use installed myspell dictionaries??? I had to manually link these into /usr/lib/firefox/dictionaries... 2. Kickoff - to move between menu levels, you have to click on arrows. It is really annoying. 3. K3b - at first start it recommends to set rights for cdrecord using K3bsetup. Cannot find k3bsetup... Check bugzilla for your problems. At least 3. has been fixed. Regarding 2., I click anywhere, no just the arrows, and it moved to the next level. It would be nice, though, to proceed after hovering for some time. Hugo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Can't add factory/ins-source
On Saturday 18 November 2006 12:06, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote: Hi, On Sat, 18 Nov 2006, Felix Miata wrote: On 2006/11/18 13:44 (GMT+0200) Vahis apparently typed: File /suse/setup/descr/32bit-10.2-104.x86_64.pat not found on media: Though I only use 32 bit, I've been encountering this x86_64.pat not found on multiple mirrors for past several days. It seems the only mirrors that don't have this problem are very slow, making ftp install take 3 hours instead of 1 hour. The recent file is named 32bit-10.2-119.x86_64.pat, dated 2006-11-14. Yep, it looks like you bumped into not up tp date mirrors. I am using fr2.rpmfind.net for the factory tree without problems. Hugo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Can't add factory/ins-source
Hugo Costelha wrote: On Saturday 18 November 2006 12:06, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote: Hi, On Sat, 18 Nov 2006, Felix Miata wrote: On 2006/11/18 13:44 (GMT+0200) Vahis apparently typed: File /suse/setup/descr/32bit-10.2-104.x86_64.pat not found on media: Though I only use 32 bit, I've been encountering this x86_64.pat not found on multiple mirrors for past several days. It seems the only mirrors that don't have this problem are very slow, making ftp install take 3 hours instead of 1 hour. The recent file is named 32bit-10.2-119.x86_64.pat, dated 2006-11-14. Yep, it looks like you bumped into not up tp date mirrors. I am using fr2.rpmfind.net for the factory tree without problems. Hugo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It seems so. I got lucky with Chemnitz and I started updating, nearly 800 packages. -- Vahis Sometimes I reply to top posters. Seldom. And usually just once. Motorcycling, Boating and SUSE Linux: http://waxborg.servepics.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Kick-off..How to change Leave ModeLaptop/PC?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, This menu has two leave options: One for laptop, and one for PC. My question: How can i change an unwanted option, into a wanted one? Laptop has got suspend modes, i do not need them on my PC. The PC mode has got a lot of interessting boot-options, i want to have these as a defaultbut somehow the laptop options are default.. Besides from clicking an arrow, to move into the submenu's, it is annoying not to be able to change these 'Leave' options... M9. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFXxyIX5/X5X6LpDgRAtmkAKDPnb8UlPnaRjy4qa09ihygsotcQgCgpKpY 8VO35Gi32XUCiq3BuZ4oX9U= =FRf5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Default wallpaper in KDE
Indeed...Its not that I don't like the new artwork, it just seems to be too simple, not much going on, not even a SUSE or openSUSE logo or anything. So far I think SuSE 10 has had the best artwork, it would be nice if it could be included. On 11/18/06, Alexey Eremenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have a concenrete 100% free suggestion, let us here it. Insulting our artist won't surely help you in any way. OK, So I would prefer to see SUSE Linux 10.0 default wallpaper on 10.2, because it's most beautyful up to now. Really, the 10.2 wallpaper is a bit primitive / out-of-place. Also, I would like older beautyful wallpapers from SUSE 9.1 to be included. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Steve - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Default wallpaper in KDE
The Iguana was hard to read and really looked unprofessional. I believe thats what they use for beta/alpha builds cuz its kind of fun, but not suitable for a professional release imo. On 11/18/06, Robby (M9.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Barnhart schreef: Indeed...Its not that I don't like the new artwork, it just seems to be too simple, not much going on, not even a SUSE or openSUSE logo or anything. So far I think SuSE 10 has had the best artwork, it would be nice if it could be included. On 11/18/06, Alexey Eremenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have a concenrete 100% free suggestion, let us here it. Insulting our artist won't surely help you in any way. OK, So I would prefer to see SUSE Linux 10.0 default wallpaper on 10.2, because it's most beautyful up to now. Really, the 10.2 wallpaper is a bit primitive / out-of-place. Also, I would like older beautyful wallpapers from SUSE 9.1 to be included. I agree that the bootsplash for the grubmenu, used in the Beta one is perfect..nice iguano from the dvdinstall menu... Why is that changed to a black grubmenu, in the following beta's? M9. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFXx8KX5/X5X6LpDgRAlT3AJ9/iV3r1GldkFMh3pu6lFVuzr1FQwCfSGCV 4mOC1zmxi6Y2xzB6WkZ1ivI= =9Ra2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Steve - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Default wallpaper in KDE
On Saturday 18 November 2006 14:58, Steve Barnhart wrote: The Iguana was hard to read and really looked unprofessional. I believe thats what they use for beta/alpha builds cuz its kind of fun, but not suitable for a professional release imo. I agree; my girlfriend was genuinely scared by it :). pgpQRfqoRgXJT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Default wallpaper in KDE
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Barnhart schreef: Indeed...Its not that I don't like the new artwork, it just seems to be too simple, not much going on, not even a SUSE or openSUSE logo or anything. So far I think SuSE 10 has had the best artwork, it would be nice if it could be included. On 11/18/06, Alexey Eremenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have a concenrete 100% free suggestion, let us here it. Insulting our artist won't surely help you in any way. OK, So I would prefer to see SUSE Linux 10.0 default wallpaper on 10.2, because it's most beautyful up to now. Really, the 10.2 wallpaper is a bit primitive / out-of-place. Also, I would like older beautyful wallpapers from SUSE 9.1 to be included. I agree that the bootsplash for the grubmenu, used in the Beta one is perfect..nice iguano from the dvdinstall menu... Why is that changed to a black grubmenu, in the following beta's? M9. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFXycvX5/X5X6LpDgRAhuhAJwJITy7OX+jVygSM3Fbg2GmKoMujwCggCDb nmnME/VSKewmXX7LSY7hGPo= =buq5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Default wallpaper in KDE
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Francis Giannaros schreef: On Saturday 18 November 2006 14:58, Steve Barnhart wrote: The Iguana was hard to read and really looked unprofessional. I believe thats what they use for beta/alpha builds cuz its kind of fun, but not suitable for a professional release imo. I agree; my girlfriend was genuinely scared by it :). Yeah, the black screen wiil probably not scare anyone... But you can not call it beautifull... The iguano is a beautifull reptile, and tastefull also, taste like chicken... (vegetarians skip the last piece of the last sentence...) M9. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFXypGX5/X5X6LpDgRAnQQAKCArD3xNHoONKwbm6q/AxP/ViDkSwCfTALl 4y0W0NfYg/DtKDGX9Yj7Ako= =9Kqu -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Default wallpaper in KDE
On Saturday 18 November 2006 15:30, Robby (M9.) wrote: Why is that changed to a black grubmenu, in the following beta's? That was a bug, as noted in the beta2 Release notes. Kind thoughts, Francis. pgpu0gvGGjkcO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Default wallpaper in KDE
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Francis Giannaros schreef: On Saturday 18 November 2006 15:30, Robby (M9.) wrote: Why is that changed to a black grubmenu, in the following beta's? That was a bug, as noted in the beta2 Release notes. Ah, the release notes, in Beta2plus it is still the black screen, only one kernel entrance added... M9. Kind thoughts, Francis. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFXzS4X5/X5X6LpDgRAtx+AJ93391Zyqc3riyGV06vUEk2SOxeiQCeL4oO HcCtIJ+uN8LkOTZhvJ+c3ZQ= =nInM -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Default wallpaper in KDE
Hello, Am Donnerstag, 16. November 2006 17:34 schrieb Stephan Kulow: Am Montag, 13. November 2006 20:53 schrieb David Mayr: I think SUSE artists can do much better that that washed out blue wallpaper gnome boredoom-style. I agree. If you have a concenrete 100% free suggestion, let us here it. What about using the bootsplash image from tty1? It looks more friendly than the dark blue wallpaper ;-) Insulting our artist won't surely help you in any way. True words ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz -- So, Helm aufsetz und auf Steine wart ... *werf* *Steine! Flache Steine! Runde Steine! Grosse Steine! Kleine Steine!* *Wer will noch mal, wer hat noch nicht?* [ Manfred Tremmel und David Haller in suse-linux] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Deselecting Zenworks
Hello, Am Donnerstag, 16. November 2006 09:31 schrieb Andreas Jaeger: Christian Boltz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] b) Bug 215355 (my one): taboo'ing a pattern does not taboo the contained packages - which is (maybe) technically correct, but very confusing for users Please read bug 215355, especially comment #4 and #5. Ah I see - yes, we have to find ways to improve this in 10.3, IMHO you should change it in 10.2 already ;-) A proposal that doesn't do any harm and avoids lots of confusion: Current behaviour: If I click the checkmark of a selected pattern, it switches to taboo. Proposal: - switch to do not install (empty checkbox) (not to taboo) - taboo should _only_ be available via right mouse button because it's very rarely used for patters Regards, Christian Boltz -- liegt es vielleicht an den lauschigen 34°, die der Prozessor oder sowas nicht mitmacht? - Soll ich mit dem Rechner jetzt zum Baggersee rausfah- ren und ihm ne Abkühlung verpassen... [Sebastian Schulze in suse-linux] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Default wallpaper in KDE
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christian Boltz schreef: Hello, Am Donnerstag, 16. November 2006 17:34 schrieb Stephan Kulow: Am Montag, 13. November 2006 20:53 schrieb David Mayr: I think SUSE artists can do much better that that washed out blue wallpaper gnome boredoom-style. I agree. If you have a concenrete 100% free suggestion, let us here it. What about using the bootsplash image from tty1? It looks more friendly than the dark blue wallpaper ;-) Insulting our artist won't surely help you in any way. True words ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz So, Helm aufsetz und auf Steine wart ... *werf* *Steine! Flache Steine! Runde Steine! Grosse Steine! Kleine Steine!* *Wer will noch mal, wer hat noch nicht?* [ Manfred Tremmel und David Haller in suse-linux] Ich werfe mit blumen: Oh wass habt ihr dass fein gemacht jungs!! So schell die Susse ist jetzt! Es wird immer besser Wie schonn (hab keine umlaute...) M9. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFX0aYX5/X5X6LpDgRAs+WAJ9u0BiRIM7y1ylIOtD3bMWWW1zbsgCbB5NS DYj5Ptc+KnTfx/gRD5LWyt4= =tMbU -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Huge fonts
On Friday 17 November 2006 19:19, Hugo Costelha wrote: On Friday 17 November 2006 19:25, Andreas Jaeger wrote: Hugo Costelha [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Comparing the two files xorg.conf files, there are a few differences, but probably the one that matters, is that the new xorg.conf files does not have DisplaySize 16 16 on the Monitor Section. This hit us several times - I thought this is fixed. So, if you have a really recent factory tree: Could you create a new bug report, please? I suggest to attach the xorg.conf files to the report, I guess I will try installing again on Monday from the Factory tree to see how it goes. If I have problems then, I will file a bug report. Hugo Costelha This is what I reported before in alpha 4: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=205371 and the bug was resolved. -- Regards, Rajko M. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Default wallpaper in KDE
please include SUSE 10.0 and SUSE 9.1 wallpapers at least if you dont want to make it default. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] crypt
Remarks on the notes for last dist-meeting started me wondering Why is losetup not pam-aware? Is that easily patched (include libpam or something like that), or should i solve it in an other way? Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: USB memory devices are mounted with root as owner and only root have write access
I was logged in on two graphical terminal windows. One as root and one as as normal user. I was working in the user GUI. It seems like it was random which user got the ownership. Do you still want a bugzilla on it? As Enhancement or minor - for discussion perhaps. This is really a corner case but might bit us in other areas... Other cases are less corner and have a similar problem: remote desktop login via kdm. Let's say a user is logged into bigbox - USB handling is fine. Another user on smallbox uses the kdm on smallbox to get a KDE session on bigbox - there's no way this second user can get usable USB device handling. Plugging into bigbox makes it owned by the first user, plugging it into smallbox makes it inaccesssible to everyone - the users's everything runs on bigbox. The kdm on smallbox doesn't even allow to open another session on smallbox (but does on bigbox...). I am of course ignoring the command line here. However there is no graphical solution. I would think that in a family there may well be a new and an old computer, creating this kind of situation. Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] K3b
Hi, In openSUSE10.2b2 K3b refers to growisofs and not wodim. See SettingsConfigure K3bPrograms Will this be fixed in RC1? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Yast security update installation failing
After attempting to install the recent set of updates for 10.1, YOU refuses to install updates which I skipped the first time, although it does recognise them as being present. I skipped them first time because I didn't have the .patch.rpms, and there are only .delta.rpms for delta-ing from the install media, but not from the previous updated version (packages mono-*2.10, MozillaFirefox-translations). YOU suggests to install the still missing updates, I click accept, YOU uses 100% CPU for a little while, then does nothing before offering to click finish. Clicking finish and restarting YOU produces the same result. zmd is disabled. Update source is ftp://localhost/, .patch.rpm are present and YOU doesn't complain about any files it can't find. This is annoying bug for 10.1 (yet again I have to do a command line fix), is it still present in 10.2b2? Impossible to test, but potentially critical as installing security updates has gone out the door. The problem has to do with the blurbs created by yast in /var/lib/zypp/db/patches/ These are yast's memory of what's installed and what isn't. Unfortuately, 2 things happen: 1) Yast marks package-sets as installed even though some rpm part or all of it was skipped, and even if yast was terminated forcefully after selecting the whole lot of patches. 2) Yast never checks its memory against reality, and forever after, all of the existing patches so far are installed. Fix for now: rm /var/lib/zypp/db/patches/* Now yast still has no clue about which updates are actually installed (the list is empty), but at least it's not destructive for patches which a) have not yet been installed, b) come out in the future. Operating like this is not acceptable from a reliability and security point of view. Yast needs a reality check, so to speak :)) Shall I report this against 10.1, or 10.2b2 in the hope a SUSEr is able to tell whether the behaviour still exists in 10.2, and a fix for it? Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Yast security update installation failing
Volker Kuhlmann schrieb: [...] The patches are already installed. And yes, the user interface confusion that makes you think they were not installed is fixed for 10.2. Andreas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Yast security update installation failing
On Sun 19 Nov 2006 15:36:07 NZDT +1300, Andreas Hanke wrote: The patches are already installed. Ehh, this is most certainly not true. rpm -qa --last and rpm -q are *VERY* reliable in telling exactly what is and isn't installed, and I am absolutely positive that aforementioned packages were NOT installed. Besides, after I deleted stuff under /var/lib/zypp and re-running YOU, all the missing .patch.rpm were installed by YOU. The same rpms YOU before detected as needing to be installed but then ignored to install. And yes, the user interface confusion that makes you think they were not installed is fixed for 10.2. This is not just a user interface problem! It seems to be more a problem with how YOU makes use of the /var/lib/zypp/.../patches/* information and assumptions based on them. Are you really sure these are fixed? Otherwise it becomes a security problem with 10.2 final (as it is with 10.1 final). Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Yast security update installation failing
Volker Kuhlmann schrieb: Ehh, this is most certainly not true. rpm -qa --last and rpm -q are *VERY* reliable in telling exactly what is and isn't installed, and I am absolutely positive that aforementioned packages were NOT installed. Besides, after I deleted stuff under /var/lib/zypp and re-running YOU, all the missing .patch.rpm were installed by YOU. The same rpms YOU before detected as needing to be installed but then ignored to install. [...] This is not just a user interface problem! It seems to be more a problem with how YOU makes use of the /var/lib/zypp/.../patches/* information and assumptions based on them. Are you really sure these are fixed? Otherwise it becomes a security problem with 10.2 final (as it is with 10.1 final). I think that only a YaST/zypp expert can analyze what's going on here and only with logfiles: /var/log/YaST2/* Right now, this is the very first time I hear that YOU doesn't install patches. Most reports like this turned out to be misunderstandings (either people assumed that YOU would install the latest version of a package, but in fact it only tries to fulfill requirements defined in the patchinfo and does nothing if they are already fulfilled; or people interpreted the fact that patches don't disappear from the view as that they were never installed). Since I don't remember any similar bug report either, file a bug, of course with all logfiles attached. Andreas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Good fast PC and printer in the UK?
1. The PC will be used only as Internet gateway, or as Multimedia station as well? 2. To configure NAT use iptables, but first learn the docs for that package. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Ballmer: Linux users owe Microsoft
On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 00:24:03 AM -0500, JJ Gitties ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: The sooner they fork SUSE the sooner they can get a head start on the project. For all the SUSE fans here, you should be happy of a fork. You will still have a SUSE. Forking is either useless or very, very expensive (effort wise) when patents are involved. It only solves easily copyright and trademark issues. E.g., to get Centos from RHEL you must, more or less, only strip and replace all the occurrences of Red Hat strings, logos and similar from the sources and recompile. A semi-automatic process. If Linux violates sw patents, to change ANY Linux distribution to something patent-free you must first *find* all the places in the source where violations occur and then, for each of them, figure out and develop another _algorithm_ to do the same thing. Assuming another way _exists_, of course. Ciao, Marco -- The right way to make everybody love Free Standards and Free Software: http://digifreedom.net/node/73 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl
On 11/17/06, Hans van der Merwe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you post yout relevant xorg.conf sections so we can compare? I also have the same problem (white screen) with the same hardware (945GM). I have just these changes in xorg.conf http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_AIGLX#XOrg.conf_Configuration -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Good fast PC and printer in the UK?
On Friday 17 November 2006 05:10, Fergus Wilde wrote: Linux-only desktop PC that's going to route other pcs in the house (including wireless) through to a cable internet box, and No You don't need a powerful workstation for this. Believe it or not, a Pentium 133 will work just fine for what you are talking about. My router gateway (including dial-on-demand) is a P250... run level 3 sunning Suse 9.2 --- works great. You do not need expensive hardware for this, and you don't need it to be particularly *fast*. You might consider a commercial wireless router though... not a much fun as setting up your own linux box... -- Kind regards, M Harris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Fwd: Great ad
Doug McGarrett wrote: http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/honda.phphttp://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/honda.php Enjoy this, and please tell me how to keep it. You open the source view, find the flash object and copy the URL, then you retrieve that. http://67.19.215.37/albino_shu001/honda-ad-300k(www.albinoblacksheep.com).swf /Per Jessen, Zürich -- http://www.spamchek.com/ - managed email security. Starting at SFr5/month/user. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Ballmer: Linux users owe Microsoft
On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 13:43:51 PM -0600, Peter Van Lone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I personally want linux to make headway into the corp world. That's what Novell is trying to do. From what I've read, this is not the case at all. My understanding is that what Novell is trying to do is make sure that ONLY the variety of Linux controlled by Novell can be used (paying!) where it really matters and makes a difference (public administrations, schools and businesses). If I'm wrong, that's good, but then can you please point me to official declarations from Microsoft, Novell or their single executives stating or admitting that any organizations or end user can professionally use or develop other brands of Free as in Freedom software without legal risks? Helping Novell is helping the community. That's difficult to believe *if* what Novell is doing strenghtens the concept that the community has no right or legal guarantees to develop or use, for any purpose, other Free Software. Again, please provide proofs that this is not the case, I'd really like (seriously) to be wrong on this. But to fork suse now? Mistake ... This is correct, because forking is useless or undoable when the problem is software patents. See my other message in this thread. Ciao, Marco -- The right way to make everybody love Free Standards and Free Software: http://digifreedom.net/node/73 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] How to start a service on ip up?
Alle 13:57, venerdì 17 novembre 2006, Mauricio Teixeira (netmask) ha scritto: Em Sex, 2006-11-17 às 00:22 +0100, Praise escreveu: Once upon a time, if I put a script in /etc/ppp/ip-up.local it got executed /etc/sysconfig/network/if-up.d/ -- whatever.sh --- #!/bin/bash if [ $2 == dsl0 ]; then (...) fi Thank you all for your answers! My problem was only a typo in my script:) Anyway I have found that -) anything /etc/sysconfig/network/if-up.d gets executed just like when the interface is just set up, even if it has not acquired any IP yet. -) /etc/ppp/if-up.d is the right place for something that gets executed when it gets an IP. Praise -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Ballmer: Linux users owe Microsoft
On Friday 17 November 2006 23:24, M. Fioretti wrote: E.g., to get Centos from RHEL you must, more or less, only strip and replace all the occurrences of Red Hat strings, logos and similar from the sources and recompile. A semi-automatic process. Who says you have to do this? Surf on down to your /usr/src/linux/kernel directory and type: grep -i copyright *.c Count how many different companies names appear in SUSE's source in just one single directory. Red Hat is in there, along with HP, SGI, and IBM. You need merely add your own copyright, without removing any prior one. In fact the GPL seems to require this. If Linux violates sw patents, to change ANY Linux distribution to something patent-free you must first *find* all the places in the source where violations occur and then, for each of them, figure out and develop another _algorithm_ to do the same thing. Assuming another way _exists_, of course. If any Linux distro was released under the GPL (and they all are), then any of your patented code you insert in your distro is given free and clear to the community. If you inserted someone elses code, it would have to come out of every distro, and the community would jointly arrive at a solution. Go back and count how many times Red Hat code was forked, TurboLinux, Centos, Mandrake, come quickly to mind, but there are probably 8 others. Its not as expensive as you think. It might take quite a while to break even, and start making money, but even Mepis is profitable on the scale that the choose to operate. -- _ John Andersen pgpuitzzIdhN9.pgp Description: PGP signature
[opensuse] Re: [oS] Information after unfinished Smart update
Many thanks for your help and thanks to Patrick Shanahan too. Did all that and still found the same error message. Next I looked at the rpm's and found that it contained a lot of unfinished rpm's. Finished the download and are now happily finishing my update. On Saturday 18 November 2006 00:13, Mauricio Teixeira (netmask) wrote: Em Sex, 2006-11-17 às 21:27 +0700, C. Brouerius van Nidek escreveu: AttributeError: 'GtkInteractiveInterface' object has no attribute 'showChangeSet' This has already been reported and fixed upstream, but probably your package isn't updated. Please, try to update only the 'smart' package using command line (smart update smart upgrade smart). -- Powered by SuSE 10.1 Kernel 2.6.16.21-0.25-default KDE 3.5.4 Kmail 1.9.4 4:25pm up 1:56, 2 users, load average: 3.78, 2.56, 1.85 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Rename eth2 to eth0
On Saturday 18 November 2006 06:28, cifroes wrote: Hi, I'm using VMWare and a vm appliance with OpenSuse 10.1 but while booting it says eth0 renamed to eth2. Now I want to rename eth2 to eth0 again. How can I do it? I already tried removing all the interfaces from yast and stuff like that. I have no idea why it renames eth0 to eth2. Check /etc/udev/rules.d/30-net_persistent_names.rules Hugo -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Fwd: Great ad
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/honda.phphttp://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/honda.php Enjoy this, and please tell me how to keep it. You open the source view, find the flash object and copy the URL, then you retrieve that. http://67.19.215.37/albino_shu001/honda-ad-300k(www.albinoblacksheep.com).swf Or you get the movie from somewhere else :-) This Rube Goldberg Honda video is everywhere on the internet... a quick Google on rube goldberg honda lead me to this page where you can download the Quicktime versiopn as well... if you don't want the flash version http://files.kavefish.com/video/honda_commercial_the_cog.mov or via this Torrent http://www.imediaconnection.com/content/cs/honda/051303/honda_ad.swf.torrent (gives you the flash version) Loads of options. :-) C -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Ballmer: Linux users owe Microsoft
On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 00:16:43 AM -0900, John Andersen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Friday 17 November 2006 23:24, M. Fioretti wrote: E.g., to get Centos from RHEL you must, more or less, only strip and replace all the occurrences of Red Hat strings, logos and similar from the sources and recompile. A semi-automatic process. Who says you have to do this? Nobody less than Red Hat itself (http://www.redhat.com/about/companyprofile/trademark/) and the Centos developers: http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=2 (CentOS mainly changes packages to remove upstream vendor branding and artwork) Surf on down to your /usr/src/linux/kernel directory and type: grep -i copyright *.c Count how many different companies names appear in SUSE's source in This (copyright on the source code or modified versions of it) has NOTHING to do with what I am talking about. Hmm, my fault here, I probably confused you when I said Red Hat strings. I only meant those with trademark function, not those in the copyright notices. A distribution is more than source code: icons, logos, registered names... If you want to create a new distribution from an existing one you have to do more than just adding or preserving copyright notices to source code. If any Linux distro was released under the GPL (and they all are), Wrong. Here you are confusing the license on the Linux kernel with the one of everything else shipped in the same DVD. A distro is a software *bundle*, and there are lots of them which bundle GPL and proprietary packages. One of the proofs of this is the fact that the FSF itself only endorses as (entirely) Free as in Freedom _some_ Gnu/Linux distributions. Heck, even stiching to SUSE, YAST became GPL only in 2004. then any of your patented code you insert in your distro is given free and clear to the community. If you inserted someone elses code, it would have to come out of every distro, and the community would jointly arrive at a solution. and here you are confusing copyright with patents. Please re-read my previous messages in this thread. If sw patents were as easy as you seem to imply to neutralize, the whole Novell-MS story would have never happened. Ciao, Marco -- The right way to make everybody love Free Standards and Free Software: http://digifreedom.net/node/73 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Updating Spamassassin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2006-11-17 at 18:04 -0800, J Sloan wrote: In general, spam is spam. In the odd case that someone wants spam, there are mechanisms within amavis to allow a user increased spam, up to allowing all spam to that user. While in some cases I suppose one might use amavis for virus only and use spamc/spamd for spam detection, that is the exception, and I've never seen anybody purposely use both spamd and amavisd to run spam assassin. Loading the sa perl classes via amavis is very efficient. I do, and I did tell you why. I'll try again because you do not understand. Amavis uses one single bayes database for all the users in the system, whereas spamc called from each user procmail uses an independently trained database for each user. This type of setup can be individually tailored to the type of spam received by each one. My system is small, so I can get away with that. So, I have disabled spam scanning in amavis, it doesn't load that part. I would like to know how to tell amavis-new to use a different bayes database for each user, but I don't know how. So I can't dispense with spamd, unfortunately: the bayes spam checking method is the one that makes here the biggest contribution, so I need it. The mail setup at SuSE is of the amavis-new type you propose, with one global bayes database. It doesn't work well, it has had to be disabled for the lists because lots of mails were marked as spam and were not. That proves that is not a good method. For any serious spam fighting scenario though, we run maia mailguard, which uses a specially modified version of amavisd-new. In mailguard, the per user white/blacklists, and SA thresholds can be set by each user for himself in the web interface. Seems nice. What about the bayes database? I know that amavis can be independently configured for each user. But I haven't read about doing the same with the bayes database. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFXuMLtTMYHG2NR9URAmEEAJsH6EgImbJeSI2RPs8362MKtLaVtQCglCck dxqP/XVku6XqYZ9y/jpI5KQ= =IA7v -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] How to start a service on ip up?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2006-11-18 at 09:24 +0100, Praise wrote: -) anything /etc/sysconfig/network/if-up.d gets executed just like when the interface is just set up, even if it has not acquired any IP yet. -) /etc/ppp/if-up.d is the right place for something that gets executed when it gets an IP. Only for ppp interfaces, it doesn't work for ethx. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFXuSrtTMYHG2NR9URApMIAJwLJgegAkDpKEF9dcav93UNDaPENgCcC7H0 APzJm9nNZfTxnLPE0J1sK30= =tEj3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Ballmer: Linux users owe Microsoft
The sooner they fork SUSE the sooner they can get a head start on the project. For all the SUSE fans here, you should be happy of a fork. You will still have a SUSE. If Novell were to become unable to distribute the software, then so would every other linux distributor, a fork would not save you. The only thing that could prevent Novell from distributing the software is the GPL section which prevents distribution of patent encumbered software without obtaining a licence for everyone to use freely. If, as a consequence of a court judgment *or allegation of patent infringement* or for any other reason (not limited to patent issues), conditions are imposed on you (whether by court order, agreement or otherwise) that contradict the conditions of this License, they do not excuse you from the conditions of this License. If you cannot distribute so as to satisfy simultaneously your obligations under this License and any other pertinent obligations, *then as a consequence you may not distribute the Program at all.* Novell's stated position is that the GPLed software they distribute does not infringe Microsoft's patents, and if any infringements are found they will remove them. Indeed they must, or they cannot satisfy the requirements of the above section. The agreement with Microsoft does not let them off the hook and allow them to distribute infringing software. So if Microsoft alleges patent infringement in specific code it must be removed, Novell cannot continue to distribute it (to the US) neither can Debian, or Ubuntu, or a SUSE fork, as they cannot grant their distributees the right to freely distribute it. Forking or using another distribution will not change anything. I will be first to admit, I have no clue as to how much work and effort is involved in creating a fork of a distro. Indeed, apart from being an entirely pointless exercise as the fork would be just as illegal to distribute as the original, it would also never happen. I don't think you realise how small the non-suse community is so far. And how few resources it has. If you think they could provide dozens of packagers to package the wealth of software SUSE currently distribute, produce the funds to Fund hardware for core mirror infrastructure, Build service, bugzilla, mailing lists, and everything else that is involved you are deluding yourself. *We* need to convince OpenSUSE to fork, or let 'em die. To bad, it is a wonderful Distro. But their parent company is NOT our friend. A tip, if you're going to use a sig that makes you sound like an idiot anyway, at least try to use correct spelling and grammar. _ Benjamin Weber -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Ballmer: Linux users owe Microsoft
On Saturday 18 November 2006 02:21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will be first to admit, I have no clue as to how much work and effort is involved in creating a fork of a distro. Indeed, apart from being an entirely pointless exercise as the fork would be just as illegal to distribute as the original, it would also never happen. Really? Never? Go look at how many linux distros have sprung up from Debian recently. Why are we running xorg instead of Xfree? Forks happen all the time. A lot go nowhere, and were never intended to. Others come out of left field and smack you upside the head like Ubuntu. -- _ John Andersen pgpfRvhldhFkm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] Icons Awol after Update
On Saturday 18 November 2006 00:53, John Andersen wrote: Well it was worth a try, but no joy. No png icons work anywhere in the system even though the png files are there in the correct place an the correct numbers. I found one icon scheme that does work (mono) because it is composed only of .svgx files (Scalable Vector graphics). Its not a totally complete set (no try icons) but it does work. The problem is system wide, all users including root, including newly created users, so the files are there, and they can be viewed with any of the capable viewers (they are not corrupted), the icon-theme.cache was rebuilt with the fresh re-install, so its got to be a system wide setting or something. Been at it most of the day. Its Beer-O-Clock. What happens in the YaST2 'Software Management' module if you select Reset Ignored Dependency Conflicts under Extras (top menu) and click the Check Dependencies button? (or ensure the 'Autocheck' checkbox is enabled?) While you're there, what packages show up if you search on png? Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] A Five Year Deal to Dump Novell/SuSE
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 M Harris wrote: http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/1000121 Here is my reply to that piece of junk: http://dev-loki.blogspot.com/2006/11/call-to-dump-suse-linux-wtf.html I also posted it as a comment on lj but, of course, they didn't let it through. cheers - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v The more things change, the more they stay insane. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFXvL8r3NMWliFcXcRAvjyAKCHl1tG3VQAP7/bep3E0o9kOoRdNwCgnsoh jjzIUPblgr/cixZjwlrkDyk= =qfbH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] A Five Year Deal to Dump Novell/SuSE
On Sat, 2006-11-18 at 00:27 -0600, M Harris wrote: http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/1000121 -- Kind regards, Isn't this actually better suited to the OT list? I'm not trying to be a list Cop but the noise levels on the list have risen so much that I'm killing a good 75% of all messages. :/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Rename eth2 to eth0
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 cifroes wrote: I'm using VMWare and a vm appliance with OpenSuse 10.1 but while booting it says eth0 renamed to eth2. Now I want to rename eth2 to eth0 again. How can I do it? I already tried removing all the interfaces from yast and stuff like that. I have no idea why it renames eth0 to eth2. http://dev-loki.blogspot.com/2005/12/forcing-network-interface-names.html cheers - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v The more things change, the more they stay insane. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFXvMyr3NMWliFcXcRAgAWAKC84Tf9vYHn0QB5Df6fxtmcU8MaNQCeI0/R YMfMMOYxh4+YauCN9CEPxds= =3aTg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Icons Awol after Update
On Saturday 18 November 2006 00:53, John Andersen wrote: snip The icons are there, but kde is not finding them. addendum: Didn't the original problem also include an error message complaining they were the 'wrong size'? Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Ballmer: Linux users owe Microsoft
On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 02:38:49 AM -0900, John Andersen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Saturday 18 November 2006 02:21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will be first to admit, I have no clue as to how much work and effort is involved in creating a fork of a distro. Indeed, apart from being an entirely pointless exercise as the fork would be just as illegal to distribute as the original, it would also never happen. Really? Never? Go look at how many linux distros have sprung up from Debian recently. Why are we running xorg instead of Xfree? Because XFree was developed, packaged and maintained in a way that pissed a lot of developers and distro packagers off. That's common knowledge, and this (the patents parts of the Novell-MS deal) an entirely different issue. You keep confusing copyright with patents, see my other message. Ciao, Marco -- The right way to make everybody love Free Standards and Free Software: http://digifreedom.net/node/73 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] A Five Year Deal to Dump Novell/SuSE
On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 12:48:12 PM +0100, Pascal Bleser ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 M Harris wrote: http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/1000121 Here is my reply to that piece of junk: http://dev-loki.blogspot.com/2006/11/call-to-dump-suse-linux-wtf.html I can't see in your reply an answer to the concerns I already expressed on this list (http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2006-11/msg01697.html). The relevant part is posted again below. May I ask you to comment? Thanks. My understanding is that what Novell is trying to do is make sure that ONLY the variety of Linux controlled by Novell can be used (paying!) where it really matters and makes a difference (public administrations, schools and businesses). If I'm wrong, that's good, but then can you please point me to official declarations from Microsoft, Novell or their single executives stating or admitting that any organizations or end user can professionally use or develop other brands of Free as in Freedom software without legal risks? Helping Novell is helping the community. That's difficult to believe *if* what Novell is doing strenghtens the concept that the community has no right or legal guarantees to develop or use, for any purpose, other Free Software. Again, please provide proofs that this is not the case, I'd really like (seriously) to be wrong on this. Marco -- The right way to make everybody love Free Standards and Free Software: http://digifreedom.net/node/73 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Ballmer: Linux users owe Microsoft
Hi guys! Don't you think that Suse has a strong community worldwide? I believe that the community of Suse can make the fork happens, and sustain it. I see how much difficult it should be, but we can forget how our movement is organized. We are a movement of colaboration, and i believe we are able to do it with cooperation of each single community of users and developers in the world. Don't you think? Sorry my bad english! Alencar (Brasil) John Andersen wrote: On Saturday 18 November 2006 02:21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will be first to admit, I have no clue as to how much work and effort is involved in creating a fork of a distro. Indeed, apart from being an entirely pointless exercise as the fork would be just as illegal to distribute as the original, it would also never happen. Really? Never? Go look at how many linux distros have sprung up from Debian recently. Why are we running xorg instead of Xfree? Forks happen all the time. A lot go nowhere, and were never intended to. Others come out of left field and smack you upside the head like Ubuntu. John Andersen wrote: On Saturday 18 November 2006 02:21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will be first to admit, I have no clue as to how much work and effort is involved in creating a fork of a distro. Indeed, apart from being an entirely pointless exercise as the fork would be just as illegal to distribute as the original, it would also never happen. Really? Never? Go look at how many linux distros have sprung up from Debian recently. Why are we running xorg instead of Xfree? Forks happen all the time. A lot go nowhere, and were never intended to. Others come out of left field and smack you upside the head like Ubuntu. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Ballmer: Linux users owe Microsoft
M Harris wrote: On Friday 17 November 2006 22:32, James Knott wrote: Actually, it was 640K. Prior to the IBM PC, 8 bit computers were generally limited to 64k. The PC could access 640K at that time You are correct... I was alive then... I remember. Do you guys realize that there are young comp sci grads going into the work-force today who were not alive when the IBM PC was announced some of them were not alive when Billy Gates made his infamous quote of no vision...no one will ever need more than 640K... Well, I bought my first computer (an IMSAI 8080 in 1976 and when the PC first came out, many considered a step backwards from what 8 bit CP/M systems were capable of. For example, back then, there was even an multiuser version called MP/M. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Ballmer: Linux users owe Microsoft
Rob Hutton wrote: Do you remember OS/2 is the operating system of the 90s!!!? Yes, and it all goes to show you can't trust Bill Gates MS to follow through on anything they promise their customers. Around the time he was making that claim, he was diverting IBM's money from OS/2 development to Windows. There is also some evidence he cheated Ed Roberts and MITS, from back when he was working on Altair BASIC. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Ballmer: Linux users owe Microsoft
M Harris wrote: On Friday 17 November 2006 22:52, you wrote: Do you remember OS/2 is the operating system of the 90s!!!? Are you kidding...? I was *there* (at IBM) from the beginning with OS/2 1.0... and the big IBM M$ divorce, and the death of MicroChannel, and the birth of M$ BloatWare, and that lame-headed Lou Gerstner who single-handedly stripped IBM of its three basic beliefs, buried OS/2 Warp4, and handed the future over to Steve Ballmer, effectively hamstringing the rest of American industry with all of M$s great innovation for the next 16 years yeah, I remember. OS/2 (may you rest in peace) It's not dead yet. Many people still run it and you can buy a version called eComStation. I still have OS/2 Warp 4 installed here, though it's been a while since I've used it. http://www.ecomstation.com and it even includes OpenOffice. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] A Five Year Deal to Dump Novell/SuSE
M Harris wrote: http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/1000121 NP is one guy I have no use for. He tends to be full of it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KDE updates change shutdown permissions
On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 07:29:50AM +0200, Sorin Peste wrote: It's been three times now that an update to some KDE packages has changed the line DISPLAYMANAGER_SHUTDOWN=all to DISPLAYMANAGER_SHUTDOWN=root in /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager. This makes the system display a prompt for the root password every time I want to shutdown. I don't know exactly which package is to blame. Updates were performed via zen-updater. Any ideas on what could be causing this? If not, then on the next KDE update I'll try updating the packages one by one. This comes from the aaa_base package. /var/adm/fillup-template/sysconfig.displaymanager. Its always difficult to find a good default, some want the user to be able to shutdown, others wont. It should not get overwritten on update however. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Removable media: handling and security policy
Hi, The handling of removable media (floppy, ZIP, CD, DVD, external disks, USB memory, ...) changes with almost every SUSE release. I'd like to have a specification of: - how things should work - a corresponding security policy in openSUSE 10.2. Currently, it's difficult to tell what is a bug and what is a feature for an ordinary user. Do these documents exist? If not, who can write them? -- A.M. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Ballmer: Linux users owe Microsoft
On Friday 17 November 2006 22:52, Rob Hutton wrote: Do you remember OS/2 is the operating system of the 90s!!!? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmiwiUeEn4k -- Glenn Holmer (Q-Link: ShadowM) http://www.lyonlabs.org/commodore/c64.html -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KDE updates change shutdown permissions
Marcus, On Saturday 18 November 2006 06:52, Marcus Meissner wrote: ... It should not get overwritten on update however. Mine changed, too, after updating KDE yesterday. And this was not the first time it happened. Ciao, Marcus Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Unable to Launch Smart from KSmartTray
I have SMART running - 0.5 rc1 - and the KSmarttray. The tray icon tells me I have pending updates. However, the past several days, when i go to launch smart or do the update from the tray, I get nothing. No errors or dialogs. I can still launch smart from the System Menu, but the updates don't seem to take effect. Ideas? -- kai www.perfectreign.com || www.4thedadz.com a turn signal is a statement, not a request -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: [SLE] Why this attitude on this list against newbies? (Was: Re: [SLE] CPU-Z For Linux?)
M Harris wrote: On Saturday 04 November 2006 04:28, HG wrote: Now, why windoze instead of Windows? I'm a protestant. Its called a protest. Call it flaming disrespect... for a marketing company who has illegally (IMO) set computer science back 25 years, robbed other hard working American inventors of their inventions (livelyhood), and their dignity. Who have hamstrung American industry almost beyond repair... and who are unrepentant filthy greedy opportunists ... and those are only the nice things I can honestly think to say about the M$ company. Bravo! and well-said indeed Mr Harris. I am keeping this entire message as a reminder (it's much better enunciated than i could have), of the rotten monopolistic behaviour of said M$ corporation. Keep on protesting...BrianB. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Unable to Launch Smart from KSmartTray
* Kai Ponte [EMAIL PROTECTED] [11-18-06 11:47]: I have SMART running - 0.5 rc1 - and the KSmarttray. The tray icon tells me I have pending updates. However, the past several days, when i go to launch smart or do the update from the tray, I get nothing. No errors or dialogs. I can still launch smart from the System Menu, but the updates don't seem to take effect. Ideas? permissions, root is necessary to install/remove system files, ftmp! -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org@ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Updating Spamassassin
Carlos E. R. wrote: I do, and I did tell you why. I'll try again because you do not understand. Actually I do understand, as I noted before. I have even run a system in the very way you described, using amavis only for virus, and using spamc/spamd for spam detection. I still say this is an odd corner case. I'm not saying it won't work. Amavis uses one single bayes database for all the users in the system, whereas spamc called from each user procmail uses an independently trained database for each user. This type of setup can be individually tailored to the type of spam received by each one. My system is small, so I can get away with that. So, I have disabled spam scanning in amavis, it doesn't load that part. I would like to know how to tell amavis-new to use a different bayes database for each user, but I don't know how. So I can't dispense with spamd, unfortunately: the bayes spam checking method is the one that makes here the biggest contribution, so I need it. The mail setup at SuSE is of the amavis-new type you propose, with one global bayes database. It doesn't work well, it has had to be disabled for the lists because lots of mails were marked as spam and were not. That proves that is not a good method. I'm currently supporting a number of sites that use suse mail servers with the single bayes database for all the users. The largest site has 13,000 users, and in practice there doesn't seem to be a problem with, as you say, one man's spam being another man's treasure. For the most part spam is spam. *everyone* thinks the viagra ads are spam. For the case where someone might want to get viagra adds, that is why the per-user whitelists exist; the individual user can exempt specific senders or domains from spam checking entirely, for messages sent to him. Seems nice. What about the bayes database? I know that amavis can be independently configured for each user. But I haven't read about doing the same with the bayes database. It's a single bayes database, but the individual whitelists and per-user thresholds help make that not a problem in practice. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] MythTV
Hi, When I try to set up MythTV, I get a blue screen and MythTV complains that it can't connect to MySQL, even though it is up and running and has the database and user set. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] autofs
Not really sure what you are looking for, but you might they adding the ghost to auto.master. /smb/etc/auto.smb --ghost /net/etc/auto.net -rw,soft,intr --timeout 60 --ghost /home /etc/auto.home --timeout 60 --ghost For more information on ghost see the man page for automounter. Mike Joseph Loo wrote: I have a box that is running both autofs and nfsserver. My home directories are exported via the nfs server with the autofs picking up the directories am mounting them on home. My auto.master file looks like the following: /smb/etc/auto.smb /net/etc/auto.net -rw,soft,intr --timeout 60 /home /etc/auto.home --timeout 60 The auto.home file looks like the following: appspolaris:/export/home/ apps_admin polaris:/export/home/ bit_torrent polaris:/export/home/ loo polaris:/export/home/ mysql polaris:/export/home/ postgrespolaris:/export/home/ wwwrun polaris:/export/home/ When I boot the machine up initially, and login in one of the common users, e.g., bit_torrent it can not find the home fie directory. If I login as root and restart autofs, i.e., /etc/init.d/autofs restart the home directories will appear correctly. At that point the system can now find the home directories. The same problem occur if I try to list the exported directory, i.e., ls /net/polaris It will not work properly. The /etc/hosts file looks like the following: 127.0.0.1 localhost # special IPv6 addresses ::1 localhost ipv6-localhost ipv6-loopback fe00::0 ipv6-localnet ff00::0 ipv6-mcastprefix ff02::1 ipv6-allnodes ff02::2 ipv6-allrouters ff02::3 ipv6-allhosts 192.168.25.15 sirus.home sirus 192.168.25.30 crab.home crab 127.0.0.2 polaris.home polaris Is it possible to use autofs this way, i.e. dhcp? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 Postfix question
Joe Morris (NTM) wrote: Sandy Drobic wrote: Joe Morris (NTM) wrote: Sandy Drobic wrote: - postconf local_header_rewrite_clients local_header_rewrite_clients = permit_inet_interfaces Did you send the mail directly from the pc where Postfix is running or was it sent from a pc within your network? Directly from the computer running postfix. What does postconf inet_interfaces say? jmorris:/home/joe # postconf inet_interfaces inet_interfaces = 127.0.0.1 ::1 Okay, now the question is, what IP address of the server was used to submit the mail. If only localhost is enabled for Postfix, then it's clear that the mail could only be sent from the server itself. Or was the mail submitted with the sendmail binary via command line? It shows in your log with postfix/pickup as the first entry of the mail. I just checked a 10.1 and a 9.3, and those were the same exactly. I forgot, I have upgraded the original postfix on the 9.3 box. On the 9.3 box; [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ rpm -q postfix postfix-2.3_20051106-0.1 Ah, that's a snapshot version from last year. Did you compile from source or did you use a rpm? On the 10.1 box; [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ rpm -q postfix postfix-2.2.9-10 The big difference in the configuration was that the default for local_header_rewrite_clients was changed. I would have expected Suse to change the default to static:all to get the previous behavior of Postfix 2.1. Postfix isn't built with a single I-do-everything binary, instead it uses several programs to handle specific tasks. Generic is applied by the smtp client program, so it can only be used for mails which are handed to the smtp client, and the job of the smtp client is usually to send a mail out. So generic IS for outgoing mail. At least it is used for Mails that leave the current server. If that server is used as a Mailgateway, then the definition of outgoing and incoming is only defined by the internal/external destination ip addresses, when Postfix sends the mail. canonical on the other hand is used by the cleanup daemon which checks a mail prior to queueing it to make sure that all required headers are present and if necessary insert it. Cleanup is also the daemon that applies header/body checks, by the way. So these checks and rewriting take place for incoming mails, before they are queued. So the different canonical databases are for incoming mail, or with mail being scanned by amavisd-new, does all mail become incoming with regard to the queue? If the server is the final destination for a mail, then the difference is quite big. The smtp client might never be called for the incoming mail. Even with a content_filter like amavisd-new, the transport could happen via a pipe, not smtp. In that case, generic would never be used. canonical on the other hand is used when the system receives a mail. Once the mail is accepted, cleanup will examine the mail, correkt broken headers and add missing neccessary headers. Some headers may not be present at the time cleanup is checking the mail, while generic will see all headers since it sees the mails at the time it leaves the system. So it could be a header added later than sender_canonical but caught by generic? If that is so, then it seems to be a new thing and may result in a bug for the Yast Postfix module (i.e. MTA). It is possible, though I don't think that should happen. The headers you showed were from a bounce message, and they were part of the body of the mail, not within the header of the mails itself. If you have a content_filter like amavisd-new, every mail will be seen by cleanup twice. Once before the content_filter, and after the content_filter sends the mail back to Postfix. So even headers added by the content_filter should be rewritten, when the mails is resubmitted from the content_filter. Sandy -- List replies only please! Please address PMs to: news-reply2 (@) japantest (.) homelinux (.) com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Unable to Launch Smart from KSmartTray
On Saturday 18 November 2006 09:07, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Kai Ponte [EMAIL PROTECTED] [11-18-06 11:47]: I have SMART running - 0.5 rc1 - and the KSmarttray. The tray icon tells me I have pending updates. However, the past several days, when i go to launch smart or do the update from the tray, I get nothing. No errors or dialogs. I can still launch smart from the System Menu, but the updates don't seem to take effect. Ideas? permissions, root is necessary to install/remove system files, ftmp! FMTP? Is that something like PEBCAK? In any case, I did have it working before - even with the current version. It used to come up and ask for the root password. Now it just does... ..nothing. -- kai www.perfectreign.com || www.4thedadz.com a turn signal is a statement, not a request -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Ballmer: Linux users owe Microsoft
On Friday 17 November 2006 23:25, Primm wrote: On Saturday 18 November 2006 05:29, M Harris wrote: On Friday 17 November 2006 14:13, Peter Nikolic wrote: OpenSuse should fork and it should Retain the SuSe trademark and the Original ideals . Novell was a bad idea from day one Is opensuse a fork? Or is the Novell too? openSUSE is a Novell sponsored product. It is similar in vein to Fedora, which is a Red Hat product. Both are more bleeding edge than the corporate versions and are not intended to be used in such an environment. -- kai www.perfectreign.com || www.4thedadz.com a turn signal is a statement, not a request -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Ballmer: Linux users owe Microsoft
Kai Ponte wrote: On Friday 17 November 2006 23:25, Primm wrote: On Saturday 18 November 2006 05:29, M Harris wrote: On Friday 17 November 2006 14:13, Peter Nikolic wrote: OpenSuse should fork and it should Retain the SuSe trademark and the Original ideals . Novell was a bad idea from day one Is opensuse a fork? Or is the Novell too? openSUSE is a Novell sponsored product. It is similar in vein to Fedora, which is a Red Hat product. Both are more bleeding edge than the corporate versions and are not intended to be used in such an environment. Well, fedora has always been bleeding edge, and redhat has always denigrated it, saying that it's for hobbyists only. OTOH suse has historically been perfectly suitable for corporate use, but novell does encourage the use of sles instead, and so, unfortunately, they have also made disparaging comments about opensuse and hobbyists. The big difference is that fedora is a completely different codebase from red hat enterprise, while suse and sles are the same code base. In practical tersm, this means, what works on opensuse 10.1 works on sled/sles, and vice versa. I can tell you, several businesses are still using regular suse on their servers, not sles, and the uptime is every bit as good. So, yeah, apart from those huge differences, opensuse is kind of like fedora... Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: MythTV
Am Sat, 18. November 2006 19:07 schrieb John Meyer:
Hi,
When I try to set up MythTV, I get a blue screen and MythTV complains
that it can't connect to MySQL, even though it is up and running and has
the database and user set.
I would say that the password in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt and the password of the
mythtv user in mysql are not the same.
By this mythtv looks for the password to conect to it's database in the config
file /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt and can't establish a connection to the database
because you set an other mysql password during the setup.
you have two choices.
- set the password in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt according to the mythtv password
used in mysql
---8--- /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt 8---
DBPassword=PasswordofMythtvinMysql
8--- 8--- 8--- 8---
Where
- or set the mythtv password of the mysql database to the one which is
defined in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt
Open an xterm, become root and change the password (instead of
mythtvpasswd type your password) :
--- --- ---
su -
mysql -u root -p mysql
UPDATE user SET password=PASSWORD('mythtvpasswd') WHERE user=mythtv;
FLUSH PRIVILEGES;
quit
--- --- ---
I would prefer the first way, changing the password in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt
regards,
thomas
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Re: [opensuse] MythTV
Am Samstag, 18. November 2006 19:07 schrieb John Meyer: When I try to set up MythTV, I get a blue screen and MythTV complains that it can't connect to MySQL, even though it is up and running and has the database and user set. Wrong list. Try [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you got the RPMs from there. I am on of the maintainers of the mythtv packages on packman and will answer your questions there. But please, add some more details. Cheers, Herbert -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Ballmer: Linux users owe Microsoft
On Saturday 18 November 2006 20:43, J Sloan wrote: Well, fedora has always been bleeding edge, and redhat has always denigrated it, saying that it's for hobbyists only. OTOH suse has historically been perfectly suitable for corporate use, but novell does encourage the use of sles instead, and so, unfortunately, they have also made disparaging comments about opensuse and hobbyists. You haven't been around very long, have you. SLES was always the version intended for the enterprise (which is why the E stands for Enterprise). This isn't exactly new with Novell 10.1 and SLES10 are indeed based on the same code base, the main difference is that 10.1 contains a ton more stuff, which isn't supported (and in most cases not supportable) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Vmware won't compile because kernel-source-2.6.18.1-24.4 != kernel-default-2.6.18.1
Hi James, That would happend if install the sources after you update the kernel, what I mean is I installed the os and updated the kernel and then I installed the sources to compile VMware and got an error message about a mismatch. You have to also reboot in some situations like after performing an update and selecting to keep the sources, they will be the new version while the running kernel the old one. If none of these help try the Vmware forums people were extereemly helpful there in my case. George On 11/17/06, James PEARSON [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I can't use Vmware anymore more if I update to a newer kernel using smart. Reason: the Vmware module won't compile any more because the kernel header version doesn't match the kernel version Now I know that I can use the orginal kernel and kernel sources that came on the 10.1 CDs but why is the kernel-source-2.6.18.1-24.4 version all of the sudden different from the kernel-default-2.6.18.1. This normally isn't the case. Why this mismatch all of the sudden? http://software.opensuse.org/download/repositories/Kernel/SUSE_Linux_10.1/i586/ Index of /download/repositories/Kernel/SUSE_Linux_10.1/i586 Icon Name Last modified Directory kernel-debug-2.6.18.1-1.3.i586.rpm 15-Nov-2006 kernel-default-2.6.18.1-1.3.i586.rpm 15-Nov-2006 kernel-dummy-2.6.18.1-1.3.i586.rpm 14-Nov-2006 kernel-source-2.6.18.1-24.4.i586.rpm 14-Nov-2006 Normally the openSUSE kernel matches the kernel-source (ex. on the 10.1 CDs): kernel-source-2.6.16.21-0.25 kernel-default-2.6.16.21-0.25 All comments welcome. TIA James -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Networking questins
OK folks, Let me preface this with I am a newbi in the Linux world, and I need help. Firs post and first question. I have three boxes on a LAN, 2 desktops and one laptop. Main desktop is a WinXP SP2 box with SLED 10 running on VM Ware connected to the Internet through a Linksys wireless adapter communicating with a wireless router. The second box is networked to the first and is running Open Suse 10.1 (remastered). The same with the Laptop. I have SMB shares on the second box and can access the share from the Winxp box. When I try to look at the local network from the Linux box, I get a message that I don't have the *Lisa deamon* installed and can not access the network. I have tried to find information on the Lisa deamon, but have failed. What is it? and how do I install it? TIA Regards, Bill.. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] MythTV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fixed the MySQL problem, seems like it wouldn't translate the % to localhost. Added an entry for localhost and that part works fine. David Canar wrote: Are you sure MySQL is up and running? as root try: /etc/init.d/mysql restart and then run again mythtv setup program and mythfilldatabase David John Meyer wrote: Hi, When I try to set up MythTV, I get a blue screen and MythTV complains that it can't connect to MySQL, even though it is up and running and has the database and user set. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFX22sbHd4gglFmoARAtzZAJ0QuZ0+pPrcdxQrZCDRrIMtofq2BgCeLz3V xaNPqxJR2v9Dfz+kgODZTKM= =Kqik -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] USB memory stick issues
Hi, I am having this weird problem with a SanDisk Crizer Micro memory stick. When I try to copy large files 3.7 GB it has a capacity of 4.0 GB the process starts at approx. 600 kbps and it is going OK and after a while that speed goes down to a 56 kbps and it stays there. This is when I run it on my Toshiba laptop Satelite 2450 with 2.8 GH processor and 1GB RAM running SuSE 10.0. When I copy large files 2 GB on my work machine an IBM/Lenovo R60 with duo-core intel processor and 1GB of ram I get speeds of approx. 8+ GB per second and it is constant I run SuSE 10.1 on that laptop. The stick supports USB 2.0 and 1.1 so I do not think it is hardware related as the Toshiba may only support 1.1 but the speed should stay constant. I have noticed that 10.0 is quite slower with usb transfers compared to 10.1 is this a driver issue? How can I find the version and maybe upgrade it?? Thanks, George -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Networking questins
Hi William, I believe you have to set up the linux machine as a samba client so and probably install any necessary packages to do that. The best way in SuSE is to try doing it through YaST as this way you will be prompted for the install cds and all will be done auto magically. I am not a samba user myself as I find ssh sufficient for my file transfer needs and ther are windows clients as well. George On 11/18/06, William Oakes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK folks, Let me preface this with I am a newbi in the Linux world, and I need help. Firs post and first question. I have three boxes on a LAN, 2 desktops and one laptop. Main desktop is a WinXP SP2 box with SLED 10 running on VM Ware connected to the Internet through a Linksys wireless adapter communicating with a wireless router. The second box is networked to the first and is running Open Suse 10.1 (remastered). The same with the Laptop. I have SMB shares on the second box and can access the share from the Winxp box. When I try to look at the local network from the Linux box, I get a message that I don't have the *Lisa deamon* installed and can not access the network. I have tried to find information on the Lisa deamon, but have failed. What is it? and how do I install it? TIA Regards, Bill.. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Icons Awol after Update
On Saturday 18 November 2006 02:50, Carl Hartung wrote: On Saturday 18 November 2006 00:53, John Andersen wrote: snip The icons are there, but kde is not finding them. addendum: Didn't the original problem also include an error message complaining they were the 'wrong size'? This is still the case. If you contrive to see the error messages each attempt to load/view an icon will dump a message on the console saying libpng error: Invalid image width For instance, if I open a shell, and load something really simple such as konsole, there will be 8 or 10 of the above messages as konsole comes up. Each time I select one of menu items at the top, such as Bookmarks in the Konsole session I will see a few more messages in the original shell libpng error: Invalid image width one fore each icon that should have been on the Bookmark menu. This is a x86_64 machine (core 2 duo) which means there is a 64bit libpng and a 32bit libpng installed (one in /lib64 and the other in /lib) if that makes any difference. Of course KDE masks these from you unless you go looking for them with the method above or by tailing .xsession-errors. -- _ John Andersen pgpk2i6JUVXLW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] Ballmer: Linux users owe Microsoft
On Saturday 18 November 2006 03:13, M. Fioretti wrote: Indeed, apart from being an entirely pointless exercise as the fork would be just as illegal to distribute as the original, it would also never happen. Really? Never? Go look at how many linux distros have sprung up from Debian recently. Why are we running xorg instead of Xfree? Because XFree was developed, packaged and maintained in a way that pissed a lot of developers and distro packagers off. That's common knowledge, and this (the patents parts of the Novell-MS deal) an entirely different issue. You keep confusing copyright with patents, see my other message. I'm not confusing anything Marco, I'm simply pointing out that the reasons for forks in the past have been MUCH LESS than the MS/Novell situation. I think the patents issue is a red herring, until and unless something, ANYTHING, can be shown to infringe. Its not germane to the discussion about people wanting to fork. fire retardant I'm not suggesting a fork, and not in favor of one, I simply am expressing the opinion that forks happen all the time, sometimes for very little reason, and there is no reason to think it unthinkable. / -- _ John Andersen pgpGX3LBl3sAR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] Networking questins
On Sat, 2006-11-18 at 15:25 -0500, William Oakes wrote: OK folks, Let me preface this with I am a newbi in the Linux world, and I need help. Firs post and first question. I have three boxes on a LAN, 2 desktops and one laptop. Main desktop is a WinXP SP2 box with SLED 10 running on VM Ware connected to the Internet through a Linksys wireless adapter communicating with a wireless router. The second box is networked to the first and is running Open Suse 10.1 (remastered). The same with the Laptop. I have SMB shares on the second box and can access the share from the Winxp box. When I try to look at the local network from the Linux box, I get a message that I don't have the *Lisa deamon* installed and can not access the network. I have tried to find information on the Lisa deamon, but have failed. What is it? and how do I install it? Use rpm -qa | grep lisa and check that the kdenetwork3-lisa package is installed. If it is then (as root) use rclisa start to start the daemon and insserv lisa to have it start everytime you boot the PC. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Ballmer: Linux users owe Microsoft
Anders Johansson wrote: On Saturday 18 November 2006 20:43, J Sloan wrote: Well, fedora has always been bleeding edge, and redhat has always denigrated it, saying that it's for hobbyists only. OTOH suse has historically been perfectly suitable for corporate use, but novell does encourage the use of sles instead, and so, unfortunately, they have also made disparaging comments about opensuse and hobbyists. You haven't been around very long, have you. SLES was always the version intended for the enterprise (which is why the E stands for Enterprise). This isn't exactly new with Novell I've probably been around longer than you. Yes, we know that suse started offering an enterprise version IIRC during the suse 7 days. However, they also continued to offer the reasonably priced shrink wrapped suse versions, with support and documentation, and many businesses used suse linux, just as many businesses used redhat before redhat dumped their shrinkwrap userbase. I was one of the those who moved from redhat to suse after the redhat 9 - fedora debacle. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Ballmer: Linux users owe Microsoft
On Saturday 18 November 2006 11:08, Anders Johansson wrote: 10.1 and SLES10 are indeed based on the same code base, the main difference is that 10.1 contains a ton more stuff, which isn't supported (and in most cases not supportable) And SLED contains tons less. Which is not to say you can't add it back in. Actually, I think SLES has less stuff than Opensuse, but it does have more packages aimed at the enterprise, and the structure is radically different using Ldap as the primary authentication means, and allowing the hosting of huge numbers of mail accounts with no underlying user accounts. All of this you can of course do in opensuse if you want, its just SOP in SLED. But then I'm not telling you anything you don't already know. -- _ John Andersen pgp4oPLNZuTG2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] KDE updates change shutdown permissions
On Saturday 18 November 2006 05:52, Marcus Meissner wrote: Its always difficult to find a good default, some want the user to be able to shutdown, others wont. It should not get overwritten on update however. Ciao, Marcus Can't it be merged into the permissions choice, (paranoid/easy/etc)? It would seem that would be a more logical place. -- _ John Andersen pgpbEJ0uS55wP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] Qt Support
Am Samstag, 18. November 2006 21:59 schrieb Kai Ponte: checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (= Qt 2.2.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation! Loading YaST (and SMART) I see I have under System/Libaries Qt 4.1.0-29 qt-qt3support 4.1.0-29 What could I be missing? qt-devel for a start Guido -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Icons Awol after Update
On Saturday 18 November 2006 02:48, Carl Hartung wrote: What happens in the YaST2 'Software Management' module if you select Reset Ignored Dependency Conflicts under Extras (top menu) and click the Check Dependencies button? (or ensure the 'Autocheck' checkbox is enabled?) Did this, and no unsatisfied dependencies were revealed. (I never ignore dependencies). While you're there, what packages show up if you search on png? Did that too, in fact I searched on things that had PNG in REQUIRED just to see if installing a couple of them would trigger a dependency that was previously missed, but no joy. -- _ John Andersen pgpJc8ft4ciuT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] LDAP Authentication WAS:Ballmer: Linux users owe Microsoft
On Saturday 18 November 2006 12:56, jdd wrote: All of this you can of course do in opensuse if you want, could you elaborate how? eventually making a fork to this endless discussion :-) I need this for a LUG server :-)) I would not be the best person to do this for you. I'm not totally sure I understand all parts of it myself, and quite frankly my familiarity with SUSE got in the way while installing SLES, because I was tempted to do things the SUSE way instead of the SLES way. Mail goes to Postfix - Amavisd (virusscan +spamassassin) - Cyrus Cyrus replaces procmail and pop3d and imapd. On top of that postfix is set up as a double pass MTA, where incoming mail is routed through it twice (initially, and then again after amavisd blesses it). Postfix and cyrus use ldap for authentication/validation, and mail does not need a login account for each user, nor a home directory for each user. Users are managed via the Yast Ldap module. I think it would be difficult to get this all working in opensuse just because its complex, not because any piece is missing. Some very sharp folks set it up for you in SLES. You can download SLES and try it out I suppose. There is a huge PDF in the install explaining all this stuff. -- _ John Andersen pgp3j9Ji81XSC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] Ballmer: Linux users owe Microsoft
At 09:24 AM 11/18/2006 +0100, M. Fioretti wrote: Content-Disposition: inline On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 00:24:03 AM -0500, JJ Gitties ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: The sooner they fork SUSE the sooner they can get a head start on the project. For all the SUSE fans here, you should be happy of a fork. You will still have a SUSE. Forking is either useless or very, very expensive (effort wise) when patents are involved. It only solves easily copyright and trademark issues. E.g., to get Centos from RHEL you must, more or less, only strip and replace all the occurrences of Red Hat strings, logos and similar from the sources and recompile. A semi-automatic process. If Linux violates sw patents, to change ANY Linux distribution to something patent-free you must first *find* all the places in the source where violations occur and then, for each of them, figure out and develop another _algorithm_ to do the same thing. Assuming another way _exists_, of course. Ciao, Marco It would seem to be relatively simple to find patent violations: just wait until MS sues RedHat. Since they use the same Linux as anybody else, with just their own tweaks added, you would then know what code they think is infringing. OTOH, if they _don't_ sue Redhat, they probably wouldn't sue anybody else. (Nobody else has enough money or enough of the market to make it worthwhile.) --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Icons Awol after Update
On Saturday 18 November 2006 16:06, John Andersen wrote: If you contrive to see the error messages each attempt to load/view an icon will dump a message on the console saying libpng error: Invalid image width I Googled this error message and got thousands of hits. Two generic problem types seem to emerge: a) an endian error b) 32-bit64-bit conflict snip This is a x86_64 machine (core 2 duo) which means there is a 64bit libpng and a 32bit libpng installed (one in /lib64 and the other in /lib) if that makes any difference. This information tends to make me suspect b), above. I seem to recall this is happening with every theme you test. What theme are you trying to use now? What is it's filename and complete path? Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] LDAP Authentication WAS:Ballmer: Linux users owe Microsoft
On the Postfix site, there are several documents call something like Postfix+Amavisd+LDAP+virtual+Cyrus. They will give you the step by step how two. You may need to read two or three of them to get it all right... It's not that hard, you will have to read until you understand though. On Saturday 18 November 2006 17:11, John Andersen wrote: On Saturday 18 November 2006 12:56, jdd wrote: All of this you can of course do in opensuse if you want, could you elaborate how? eventually making a fork to this endless discussion :-) I need this for a LUG server :-)) I would not be the best person to do this for you. I'm not totally sure I understand all parts of it myself, and quite frankly my familiarity with SUSE got in the way while installing SLES, because I was tempted to do things the SUSE way instead of the SLES way. Mail goes to Postfix - Amavisd (virusscan +spamassassin) - Cyrus Cyrus replaces procmail and pop3d and imapd. On top of that postfix is set up as a double pass MTA, where incoming mail is routed through it twice (initially, and then again after amavisd blesses it). Postfix and cyrus use ldap for authentication/validation, and mail does not need a login account for each user, nor a home directory for each user. Users are managed via the Yast Ldap module. I think it would be difficult to get this all working in opensuse just because its complex, not because any piece is missing. Some very sharp folks set it up for you in SLES. You can download SLES and try it out I suppose. There is a huge PDF in the install explaining all this stuff. -- Thanks, Rob -- Rob Hutton Service Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.getuwired.us (877) 236-9094 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Vmware won't compile because kernel-source-2.6.18.1-24.4 != kernel-default-2.6.18.1
On 2006-11-18 14:22, George Stoianov wrote: Hi James, That would happend if install the sources after you update the kernel, what I mean is I installed the os and updated the kernel and then I installed the sources to compile VMware and got an error message about a mismatch. You have to also reboot in some situations like after Read James's message, George. It is not simply a need to reboot. The kernel version and the sources version in the repository are different: http://software.opensuse.org/download/repositories/Kernel/SUSE_Linux_10.1/i586/ Index of /download/repositories/Kernel/SUSE_Linux_10.1/i586 Icon Name Last modified Directory kernel-debug-2.6.18.1-1.3.i586.rpm 15-Nov-2006 kernel-default-2.6.18.1-1.3.i586.rpm 15-Nov-2006 kernel-dummy-2.6.18.1-1.3.i586.rpm 14-Nov-2006 kernel-source-2.6.18.1-24.4.i586.rpm 14-Nov-2006 Best I can suggest for James to try is install the kernel-source src.rpm from http://software.opensuse.org/download/repositories/Kernel/SUSE_Linux_10.1/src/ and compile it. -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Networking questins
At 03:25 PM 11/18/2006 -0500, William Oakes wrote: OK folks, Let me preface this with I am a newbi in the Linux world, and I need help. Firs post and first question. I have three boxes on a LAN, 2 desktops and one laptop. Main desktop is a WinXP SP2 box with SLED 10 running on VM Ware connected to the Internet through a Linksys wireless adapter communicating with a wireless router. The second box is networked to the first and is running Open Suse 10.1 (remastered). The same with the Laptop. I have SMB shares on the second box and can access the share from the Winxp box. When I try to look at the local network from the Linux box, I get a message that I don't have the *Lisa deamon* installed and can not access the network. I have tried to find information on the Lisa deamon, but have failed. What is it? and how do I install it? TIA Regards, Bill.. Networking between Windows machines and Linux has been a hassle for me forever. I will be honest: I don't even know how to network between two Windows machines, or for that matter, between two Linux machines. I would love to network my 9.3 Linux machine to my XP machine. It would simplify my life. Then maybe I could go thru the XP machine to my printer, or transfer files from one machine to the other, or send sound from the Linux machine thru the XP machine to the stereo system, and all sorts of things that would help. If someone would write a small booklet telling me how to do this-- not only on the Linux side, but on the XP side--and sell it on the net for $5.00 or so, I would buy it instantly. It would have to be written in plain English that anyone off the street could understand. I've only been using computers for about 40 years, but I really have trouble with a lot of the terminology. (I have been using computers to _compute_, not to configure. And, lately of course, to use the lists and email, and word-process.) Ferinstance: apparently you need something called Samba to network. I don't know what this program is or does, etc. etc. etc. Well, I suppose that nobody will. Everybody seems to understand this stuff but me. Ah, well. --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 Postfix question
Sandy Drobic wrote: Joe Morris (NTM) wrote: jmorris:/home/joe # postconf inet_interfaces inet_interfaces = 127.0.0.1 ::1 Okay, now the question is, what IP address of the server was used to submit the mail. If only localhost is enabled for Postfix, then it's clear that the mail could only be sent from the server itself. Or was the mail submitted with the sendmail binary via command line? It shows in your log with postfix/pickup as the first entry of the mail. I think you may be on to something here. In my /etc/hosts, my local domain, i.e jmorris.home is defined as 192.168.10.1. The mailing program (dshield iptables script) uses /usr/sbin/sendmail -oi -t to send its mail. The logs showed: Nov 7 19:30:02 jmorris postfix/pickup[28444]: 639CC26F0DF: uid=1000 from=joe Nov 7 19:30:02 jmorris postfix/cleanup[30908]: 639CC26F0DF: message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Nov 7 19:30:02 jmorris postfix/qmgr[28445]: 639CC26F0DF: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=21437, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Nov 7 19:30:19 jmorris postfix/smtp[30913]: 639CC26F0DF: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=smtp.postoffice.net[165.212.11.125]:2525, delay=17, delays=0.53/0.01/16/0.33, dsn=5.0.0, status=bounced (host smtp.postoffice.net[165.212.11.125] said: 553 Invalid sender domain (in reply to MAIL FROM command)) So maybe for some reason you may be able to explain to me (cause I otherwise do not know why it used jmorris.home instead of localhost by using the sendmail command but you must since you asked :-) ) and if I had added 192.168.10.1 to my local inet_interfaces, sender_canonical would have worked, is that correct? postfix-2.3_20051106-0.1 Ah, that's a snapshot version from last year. Did you compile from source or did you use a rpm? I used an rpm from people directory, but that is a different machine than the one I am working on presently (but that server is why I do all my testing on my home machine). The headers you showed were from a bounce message, and they were part of the body of the mail, not within the header of the mails itself. The log for the mail is above. Since it was never actually sent, but rejected by my relayhost, I cannot tell where the header was. If you have a content_filter like amavisd-new, every mail will be seen by cleanup twice. Once before the content_filter, and after the content_filter sends the mail back to Postfix. So even headers added by the content_filter should be rewritten, when the mails is resubmitted from the content_filter. Just to summarize a bit, am I correct that sender_canonical did NOT work because I had misconfigured my local inet addresses for postfix purposes? And that is somehow connected to using sendmail to send the mail from the script? And, most importantly to me ATM, that if I had added 192.168.10.1 to my inet_interfaces, sender_canonical would have worked (and therefore there is not a bug in Yast MTA module)? Thanks much for all your help here. -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Icons Awol after Update
On Saturday 18 November 2006 16:06, John Andersen wrote: snip This is a x86_64 machine (core 2 duo) which means there is a 64bit libpng and a 32bit libpng installed (one in /lib64 and the other in /lib) if that makes any difference. Addendum: You can check which libraries are linked to your selected style using ldd like this (example uses keramik style): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ ldd /opt/kde3/lib/kde3/plugins/styles/keramik.so linux-gate.so.1 = (0xe000) libkdefx.so.4 = /opt/kde3/lib/libkdefx.so.4 (0x4005b000) libqt-mt.so.3 = /usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 (0x40088000) libXext.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x40783000) libstdc++.so.6 = /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0x40791000) libc.so.6 = /lib/tls/libc.so.6 (0x4086d000) libX11.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x4098c000) libpthread.so.0 = /lib/tls/libpthread.so.0 (0x40a85000) libXrender.so.1 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1 (0x40a98000) libm.so.6 = /lib/tls/libm.so.6 (0x40aa) libgcc_s.so.1 = /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x40ac6000) Note this: libpng.so.3 = /usr/lib/libpng.so.3 (0x40ad1000) And this: libz.so.1 = /lib/libz.so.1 (0x40b1) snip You can use the file command to discern if a file is 32-bit or 64-bit like this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ file /opt/kde3/lib/kde3/plugins/styles/keramik.so /opt/kde3/lib/kde3/plugins/styles/keramik.so: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), stripped Finally, it appears the error message you're getting is sometimes caused when libpng can't uncompress the data because libz is not working correctly (wrong version, bad link and can't be found, etc.) Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Networking questins
On Saturday 18 November 2006 17:59, Doug McGarrett wrote: -snip- If someone would write a small booklet telling me how to do this-- not only on the Linux side, but on the XP side--and sell it on the net for $5.00 or so, I would buy it instantly. It would have to be written in plain English that anyone off the street could understand. -snip- Well, I suppose that nobody will. Everybody seems to understand this stuff but me. Ah, well. Hi Doug, If everybody would understand that stuff than this http://samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-Guide/ wouldn't be written. I guess. This was for me enough to setup mixed network. They accept donations here: http://us4.samba.org/samba/donations.html -- Regards, Rajko M. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Will these monitors work with SuSE 10.0 and higher?
Hello. Does anyone know if either of these LCD monitors will work with SuSE 10.0 or higher? Neither is listed in the YaST configuration. Viewsonic VX2235WM Samsung 225BW Thanks. Usual Karma points awards will apply. TIA J -- j If a hurricane doesn't leave you dead It will make you strong. Don't try to explain, just nod your head . Breate in breathe out , nove on. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Will these monitors work with SuSE 10.0 and higher?
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [11-18-06 19:40]: Hello. Does anyone know if either of these LCD monitors will work with SuSE 10.0 or higher? Neither is listed in the YaST configuration. Viewsonic VX2235WM Samsung 225BW ??, but... I have a Samsung SyncMaster 204T works fine :^) -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org@ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] To Novell SUSE - Please include Windows Media Codecs after deal with Microsoft
On Tue, 2006-11-14 at 22:01 -0600, M Harris wrote: On Tuesday 14 November 2006 21:16, JJ Gitties wrote: I would be interested in knowing exactly what feature of SUSE do you find that there is no equivalent or similar or even better corresponding feature that may be found in other major distro's or products? Yast Agreed. I do not believe the other installers can touch it. -- ___ _ _ _ _ _ _ || | | [__ | | | |___ |_|_| ___] | \/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] installing new kernel but retaining the old one for booting
Dear list members, I used to install a new kernel with rpm -ivh so that I could either boot the old or new one. And with rpm -Uvh I would replace the older with the newer version. However since Suse 10.0 that no longer seems to be the case and rpm -ivh also replaces the older version. I want to be able to boot the older version until I make sure the new one works for me. Is it still possible to do in Suse 10.1? Specifically, I want to install kernel-default-2.6.18.1-1.3.i586.rpm Pointers would be appreciated. Thanks, Gustav -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
