Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [LEDE-DEV] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal V2

[John Crispin]

On 24/05/17 10:13, Paul Oranje wrote:

Who are/will be entitled to an [IRC] project cloak ?
Paul
people with voting rights and probably also regular contributors ... 
that is however unrelated to the remerge discussion and would fall under 
the normal voting system





Op 22 mei 2017, om 19:11 heeft Imre Kaloz  het volgende 
geschreven:

Hi,

On 2017-05-22 03:10, John Crispin wrote:


On 22/05/17 11:02, Rafał Miłecki wrote:

On 05/22/2017 09:40 AM, John Crispin wrote:

*) branding
- the owrt side sees no option of using the lede brand
- a (minor) majority voted for openwrt as a name over lede whilst most people 
said they did not care
- as the last vote had a 100% ACK for a remerge using the owrt brand is the 
only feasible option

Since the project is going to be known/accessible under OpenWrt name now, I
want also mbm and Kaloz to share #openwrt and #openwrt-devel privileges.

There were many times op was needed but mbm/Kaloz weren't around.

I was refused/ignored multiple times when asking for that, so I wanted to
bring it as this point to be clear. Is that OK for you guys?


i'll add it to V3

Sorry Rafal, don't get me wrong but this isn't true. It might haven't been 
documented well (like quite a few things) but you have been told years ago: 
everyone who has a project cloak has access to everything. What have been 
refused is to make a special exception just for you to get it without that.


Imre

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Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [LEDE-DEV] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal V2

[John Crispin]

On 23/05/17 22:42, Hauke Mehrtens wrote:

On 05/22/2017 09:40 AM, John Crispin wrote:

Hi,

here is a V2 of the remerge proposal, I tried to fold all the comments
people made into it, if anything is missing let me know.


 John

.


*) SPI
- nominate a new liaison team (imre and john offer to do this, if anyone
else is interested let us know)

I am ok with you both representing us at the SPI. Is a majority vote
needed (LEDE rules) to put someone else into this position, or what
would be the process? ;-)


this would be handled by our normal voting system
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Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [LEDE-DEV] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal V2

[Hauke Mehrtens]

On 05/22/2017 09:40 AM, John Crispin wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> here is a V2 of the remerge proposal, I tried to fold all the comments
> people made into it, if anything is missing let me know.
> 
> 
> John

.

> *) SPI
> - nominate a new liaison team (imre and john offer to do this, if anyone
> else is interested let us know)

I am ok with you both representing us at the SPI. Is a majority vote
needed (LEDE rules) to put someone else into this position, or what
would be the process? ;-)

> - inform SPI of the new liaisons, voters and project rules
> - this should be done early in the remerge process s.t. the domains can
> be handed over



> *) email accounts
> - currently there are around ~20 active openwrt.org mail accounts (the 3
> owrt devs would like to keep theirs active)
> - turn all the webmaster@, hostmaster@, ... accounts into aliases that
> anyone with voting rights can be subscribed to
> - ask those people that are no longer active to voluntarily give up
> their accounts
> - mail addresses may under no conditions be used for any personal
> business, consultancy, applying for jobs, ... purposes
> - any mail sent from an openwrt.org account needs to adhere the
> trademark policy and should only be used for FOSS purposes

I am fine with forwarding the mails send to the personal accounts to
some other mail address of that person for the next years.


> 
> *) trademark/sponsorship policy
> - review/ack imres trademark policy (https://openwrt.org/trademark)
> - review/ack jows sponsorship policy (link pending)

As the sponsorship policy is not ready can you remove it from the
remerge proposal and we can talk about it later.

> *) timeline
> - vote / agree on the proposal within the next week
> - work on the action items in the 4 weeks after that
> 
> John
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Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [LEDE-DEV] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal V2

[Imre Kaloz]

Hi,

On 2017-05-22 03:10, John Crispin wrote:



On 22/05/17 11:02, Rafał Miłecki wrote:

On 05/22/2017 09:40 AM, John Crispin wrote:

*) branding
- the owrt side sees no option of using the lede brand
- a (minor) majority voted for openwrt as a name over lede whilst 
most people said they did not care
- as the last vote had a 100% ACK for a remerge using the owrt brand 
is the only feasible option


Since the project is going to be known/accessible under OpenWrt name 
now, I

want also mbm and Kaloz to share #openwrt and #openwrt-devel privileges.

There were many times op was needed but mbm/Kaloz weren't around.

I was refused/ignored multiple times when asking for that, so I 
wanted to

bring it as this point to be clear. Is that OK for you guys?


i'll add it to V3
Sorry Rafal, don't get me wrong but this isn't true. It might haven't 
been documented well (like quite a few things) but you have been told 
years ago: everyone who has a project cloak has access to everything. 
What have been refused is to make a special exception just for you to 
get it without that.



Imre
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Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [LEDE-DEV] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal V2

[Toke Høiland-Jørgensen]

John Crispin  writes:

> the lede rules that will become the new owrt rules.

You may want to mention this fact in the merge proposal itself. What
would happen to the rules was one of the points that was unclear in the
first round, I believe... :)

-Toke
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Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [LEDE-DEV] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal V2

[John Crispin]

On 22/05/17 11:39, Vincenzo Romano wrote:

I also agree to everything.
With am extra point.

2017-05-22 11:18 GMT+02:00 tapper :

*) SPI
- nominate a new liaison team (imre and john offer to do this, if anyone
else is interested let us know)
- inform SPI of the new liaisons, voters and project rules
- this should be done early in the remerge process s.t. the domains can be
handed over

There needs a way to be able to enlarge that team at any time by vote.
And expunging a member out should be subjected to a vote too.

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covered by the lede rules that will become the new owrt rules.
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Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [LEDE-DEV] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal V2

[John Crispin]

On 22/05/17 11:02, Rafał Miłecki wrote:

On 05/22/2017 09:40 AM, John Crispin wrote:

*) branding
- the owrt side sees no option of using the lede brand
- a (minor) majority voted for openwrt as a name over lede whilst 
most people said they did not care
- as the last vote had a 100% ACK for a remerge using the owrt brand 
is the only feasible option


Since the project is going to be known/accessible under OpenWrt name 
now, I

want also mbm and Kaloz to share #openwrt and #openwrt-devel privileges.

There were many times op was needed but mbm/Kaloz weren't around.

I was refused/ignored multiple times when asking for that, so I wanted to
bring it as this point to be clear. Is that OK for you guys?


i'll add it to V3


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