Re: cease and desist from my vps provider...
Andrea Trentini, on 02/03/2011 02:18 PM, wrote: Hi, just to let you know, I had a tor node up and running for about two years (http://atrent.it/atrentwiki/doku.php?id=tunneled), today my vps provider sent me a cease and desist email to tear down my node, I complied of course but I asked why. They told me it's against italian law to have a tor relay, anyone has more info? Afaik, there's no such law in Italy. Ask them which law it is. Anyway I was about to switch to another provider, can someone suggest me one that allows tor nodes? I've been running an exit node for a few years on ngi.it. Never heard from them. My node has been down for a few weeks for hardware problems, but I plan to put it back on line soon. According with http://torstatus.blutmagie.de/, almost any major ISP in Italy connects some exit node. Kiss Seflow goodbye and be happy. :-) -- http://www.predicatori.it/marco/ *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: cease and desist from my vps provider...
On 02/03/2011 04:05 PM, Marco Predicatori wrote: Afaik, there's no such law in Italy. Ask them which law it is. asked, they told me to contact a lawyer (sic!) I told them that if they are telling me that they cannot keep my service up for some legal reason they should provide (I just asked for a weblink) the specific reason/law, no answer from them until now (and I don't think I'll ever get one) Anyway I was about to switch to another provider, can someone suggest me one that allows tor nodes? self suggestion: I asked hetzner if they accept a tor node, they told me yes, but you're responsible (of course) I've been running an exit node for a few years on ngi.it. Never heard from them. My node has been down for a few weeks for hardware problems, but I plan to put it back on line soon. According with http://torstatus.blutmagie.de/, almost any major ISP in Italy connects some exit node. Kiss Seflow goodbye and be happy. :-) that will be my next step ;) italian tor (would-be) admins beware: avoid SEFLOW.it! -- -- /\___ /--\ndrea |rentini http://atrent.it Laboratorio Software Libero @ Dipartimento di Informatica e Comunicazione @ Universita' degli Studi di Milano http://netlamps.it http://motocivismo.it [Freedom] /:\ | | / : v_@_ \ | | / : _H_\ \ / : [-#-]\ /: °U \ Food for thought = http://tecnocivismo.criticalminds.eu se hai problemi col quoting leggi il seguente: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-posting if you have problems with quoting, please read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: cease and desist from my vps provider...
On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 05:36:09PM +0100, Andrea Trentini wrote: self suggestion: I asked hetzner if they accept a tor node, they told me yes, but you're responsible (of course) Interesting. Hetzner is officially down on anything which causes them trouble (benji said so himself, repeatedly), so they're effectively accepting of a Tor middleman, but Tor exits are probably going to be pretty short-lived in Hetzner space. -- Eugen* Leitl a href=http://leitl.org;leitl/a http://leitl.org __ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: cease and desist from my vps provider...
On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 05:59:03PM +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 05:36:09PM +0100, Andrea Trentini wrote: self suggestion: I asked hetzner if they accept a tor node, they told me yes, but you're responsible (of course) Interesting. Hetzner is officially down on anything which causes them trouble (benji said so himself, repeatedly), so they're effectively accepting of a Tor middleman, but Tor exits are probably going to be pretty short-lived in Hetzner space. i added seflow.it to this page https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/TheOnionRouter/GoodBadISPs please feel free to change it when you have updates or wish to modify the hetzner entry as well. *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: cease and desist from my vps provider...
Interesting. Hetzner is officially down on anything which causes them trouble (benji said so himself, repeatedly), so they're effectively accepting of a Tor middleman, but Tor exits are probably going to be pretty short-lived in Hetzner space. If you got your own IP space with own ripe contact, all the abuse mails will go to you, so it does not cause trouble to them at all. Maybe this is what is meant with you are responsible. best regards, Jan *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
torr file question...
i am using Vidalia Bundle 0.2.1.29-0.2.10 and i found in my torcc file this : This file was generated by Tor; if you edit it, comments will not be preserved # The old torrc file was renamed to torrc.orig.1 or similar, and Tor will ignore it # If set, Tor will accept connections from the same machine (localhost only) # on this port, and allow those connections to control the Tor process using # the Tor Control Protocol (described in control-spec.txt). ControlPort 9051 # Where to send logging messages. Format is minSeverity[-maxSeverity] # (stderr|stdout|syslog|file FILENAME). Log notice stdout # Bind to this address to listen to connections from SOCKS-speaking # applications. SocksListenAddress 127.0.0.1 so how i can control and fix or define my exitnode thx
Re: IP address blocked on certain site
On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 15:30 -0600, Joe Btfsplk joebtfs...@gmx.com wrote: On 2/2/2011 5:54 PM, Geoff Down wrote: I came to the conclusion that it was Polipo cacheing. You can try inserting a 'Pragma: No-cache' header using Modify Headers or a similar addon, though that does make you stand out. Not sure what you mean by pragma: No-cache header. How to go about it, will it (negatively) affect access to, or speed of other site, or other issues? Or can this header be targeted to a specific target site? Is Modify Headers a Firefox addon, or vidalia / Tor addon? It's a Firefox Addon and it modifies/filters/inserts HTTP headers into the requests Firefox makes. Alterations can be enabled and disabled with a click, so you can disable them when not needed. Headers sent by the browser control which pages are cached. See http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2068.html Section 14.9 Cache-Control and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_cache#Cache_control If didn't use your suggestion (don't know what exactly is involved, or ramifications), which folder / file contains Polipo's cacheing of IP addresses? I don't find a Polipo cache file. Neither could I. It may be entirely in memory. Nevertheless that was the conclusion I came to. It's not the IP address being cached, it's the response from the site I would say. Your new request is never being sent (via your new IP) because Polipo is returning the cached version of the page IMO. Anyone have other ideas? GD -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: IP address blocked on certain site
On 2/3/2011 5:53 PM, Geoff Down wrote: ... Neither could I. It may be entirely in memory. Nevertheless that was the conclusion I came to. It's not the IP address being cached, it's the response from the site I would say. Your new request is never being sent (via your new IP) because Polipo is returning the cached version of the page IMO. Anyone have other ideas? GD Before he goes through all that trouble, wouldn't it be worth just SOCKSifying Firefox to use Tor directly, rather than Polipo? If it's some hidden cache issue with Polipo, the issue would disappear then, no? Also he mentions opening a new tab, but never says he cleared the Firefox cache; could Firefox itself simply be fishing the page up from memory? A simple tools clear everything would be a decent test. ~Justin Aplin *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: IP address blocked on certain site
The 2nd option of Torbutton under PrefsSecurityCache, Block disk and memory cache access during Tor, may be the answer. see http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.cache.memory.enable Don't know what would have to do to clear mem cache from Fx activity - shut down computer? (assuming memory caching was enabled) *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: IP address blocked on certain site
On 2/3/2011 8:28 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: I am using Torbutton. It is supposed to Torrify Firefox - yes? In a roundabout way, yes. Torbutton forwards Firefox traffic to Polipo, which in turn sends the traffic to the SOCKS port of Tor. Disabling Torbutton and entering the Tor SOCKS information into Firefox's network configuration would skip the Polipo part, and eliminate any problems you might be having with some hidden Polipo cache. Everything else you mentioned points to you using Firefox and Tor properly, I'd try either skipping Polipo (really only a testing solution, as by not using Torbutton, you lose all the other goodies it gives you (beyond simple SOCKS configuration), and would have to change Firefox's network config every time you wanted to use or stop using Tor). If it's indeed a Polipo problem and that fixes it, Geoff's solution seems like it would make a rather nice permanent solution for you. You could skip right to that if it sounds easier than screwing around with Firefox's network configuration. On 2/3/2011 8:35 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: Don't know what would have to do to clear mem cache from Fx activity - shut down computer? (assuming memory caching was enabled) Simply close the process. The memory cache disappears along with the rest of the rest of the process. No fenangling necessary. ~Justin Aplin *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: IP address blocked on certain site
On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 22:21:34 -0500 Aplin, Justin M jmap...@ufl.edu wrote: On 2/3/2011 8:28 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: I am using Torbutton. It is supposed to Torrify Firefox - yes? In a roundabout way, yes. Torbutton forwards Firefox traffic to Polipo, which in turn sends the traffic to the SOCKS port of Tor. Disabling Torbutton and entering the Tor SOCKS information into Firefox's network configuration would skip the Polipo part, and eliminate any problems you might be having with some hidden Polipo cache. Turning off 'Use Polipo' in the Torbutton Preferences dialog would be easier and much safer. Robert Ransom signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: IP address blocked on certain site
On 2/3/2011 10:23 PM, Robert Ransom wrote: On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 22:21:34 -0500 Aplin, Justin Mjmap...@ufl.edu wrote: On 2/3/2011 8:28 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: I am using Torbutton. It is supposed to Torrify Firefox - yes? In a roundabout way, yes. Torbutton forwards Firefox traffic to Polipo, which in turn sends the traffic to the SOCKS port of Tor. Disabling Torbutton and entering the Tor SOCKS information into Firefox's network configuration would skip the Polipo part, and eliminate any problems you might be having with some hidden Polipo cache. Turning off 'Use Polipo' in the Torbutton Preferences dialog would be easier and much safer. Robert Ransom Do this. I haven't used Tor as a client in months, I'd completely forgotten this was an option. My bad. ~Justin Aplin *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
[scrubbed].onion and log level
I have a friend here and we're trying to debug a TorChat connection. We had it working once, then I'm trying to talk him through editing his config. He doesn't show up on my TorChat, and I show up as a blue ball on his. So I looked at the log file to see what's happening. It says Tried for 120 seconds to get a connection to [scrubbed]:11009. The problem with that is, I have other people in my buddy list, at least one of whom isn't on line, and I have no way of knowing when it's my friend that I'm having trouble connecting to. So I changed the log level to info, then to debug, reloaded Tor, then restarted it. I still get [scrubbed], even in the info messages, and the debug messages are way too much to wade through. How can I (temporarily) tell Tor not to scrub the hidden services? cmeclax *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: [scrubbed].onion and log level
On Thu, 3 Feb 2011 23:39:40 -0500 cmeclax-sazri cmeclax-sa...@ixazon.dynip.com wrote: I have a friend here and we're trying to debug a TorChat connection. We had it working once, then I'm trying to talk him through editing his config. He doesn't show up on my TorChat, and I show up as a blue ball on his. So I looked at the log file to see what's happening. It says Tried for 120 seconds to get a connection to [scrubbed]:11009. The problem with that is, I have other people in my buddy list, at least one of whom isn't on line, and I have no way of knowing when it's my friend that I'm having trouble connecting to. So I changed the log level to info, then to debug, reloaded Tor, then restarted it. I still get [scrubbed], even in the info messages, and the debug messages are way too much to wade through. How can I (temporarily) tell Tor not to scrub the hidden services? Add: SafeLogging 0 to your torrc. Robert Ransom signature.asc Description: PGP signature
