Re: Sent e-mails going into spam folders.
Am 13.02.2011 00:54, schrieb Matthew: Incidentally, in http://torstatus.blutmagie.de/ gpfTOR4 is listed as being in the Czech Republic while gpfTOR5 and gpfTOR6 are in Netherlands. Is this correct? Yes, coorect. In the last years we see much less trouble by using non-German ISPs for our Tor nodes. gpfTOR4 is hosted by coolhousing.net, gpfTOR5 and gpfTOR6 are hosted by leaseweb.nl. Greetings Karsten N. *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: Sent e-mails going into spam folders.
On 13/02/11 21:03, Karsten N. wrote: Am 13.02.2011 00:54, schrieb Matthew: Incidentally, in http://torstatus.blutmagie.de/ gpfTOR4 is listed as being in the Czech Republic while gpfTOR5 and gpfTOR6 are in Netherlands. Is this correct? Yes, coorect. In the last years we see much less trouble by using non-German ISPs for our Tor nodes. gpfTOR4 is hosted by coolhousing.net, gpfTOR5 and gpfTOR6 are hosted by leaseweb.nl. Could you please say a little more about what the trouble in Germany was and why Dutch and Czech exit nodes involve less trouble? Thanks. Greetings Karsten N. *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/ *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: Sent e-mails going into spam folders.
On 09/02/11 09:06, Karsten N. wrote: Am 07.02.2011 20:00, schrieb Matthew: I am wondering to what degree people on this list have problems with e-mails going into spam folders because they are using tor nodes. Many Tor nodes are listet in some anti-spam DNSBL. We have had a discussion here about SORBS DNSBL some times ago. All tor nodes are listet in the The Abusive Hosts Blocking List www.ahbl.org The IP address of the tor exit node appears in the mail header. It is the senders IP addres. If the recipients mail provider uses a DNSBL which contains many tor nodes the mail will be flagged as spam. You can use a clean exit node for sending mail with SMTP. Check your prefered exit nodes at http://www.dnsbl.info/dnsbl-database-check.php If it is not listet, you can add a map address to your torrc: MapAddress smtp.provider.tld smtp.provider.tld.$6D3EE...(Fingerprint) The GPF keeps one exit node clean from DNSBL. The tor node gpfTOR3 is only listet at www.ahbl.org (impossible to remove it, because all nodes are listet). You can use this if you did not find an other. Thank you. The DNSBL link was very useful. I have checked the three GPF exit nodes and gpfTOR4 and gpfTOR6 are not listed by any lists (including AHBL) while gpfTOR2 is only listed by barracudacentral.org/rbl. Incidentally, in http://torstatus.blutmagie.de/ gpfTOR4 is listed as being in the Czech Republic while gpfTOR5 and gpfTOR6 are in Netherlands. Is this correct? ATTENTION: It will decrease your privacy! Use only very well trusted nodes. (I did found an other solution for SMTP) Greetings Karsten N. *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/ *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: Sent e-mails going into spam folders.
Am 07.02.2011 20:00, schrieb Matthew: I am wondering to what degree people on this list have problems with e-mails going into spam folders because they are using tor nodes. Many Tor nodes are listet in some anti-spam DNSBL. We have had a discussion here about SORBS DNSBL some times ago. All tor nodes are listet in the The Abusive Hosts Blocking List www.ahbl.org The IP address of the tor exit node appears in the mail header. It is the senders IP addres. If the recipients mail provider uses a DNSBL which contains many tor nodes the mail will be flagged as spam. You can use a clean exit node for sending mail with SMTP. Check your prefered exit nodes at http://www.dnsbl.info/dnsbl-database-check.php If it is not listet, you can add a map address to your torrc: MapAddress smtp.provider.tld smtp.provider.tld.$6D3EE...(Fingerprint) The GPF keeps one exit node clean from DNSBL. The tor node gpfTOR3 is only listet at www.ahbl.org (impossible to remove it, because all nodes are listet). You can use this if you did not find an other. ATTENTION: It will decrease your privacy! Use only very well trusted nodes. (I did found an other solution for SMTP) Greetings Karsten N. *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: Sent e-mails going into spam folders.
Am 09.02.2011 10:06, schrieb Karsten N.: (I did found an other solution for SMTP) Sorry - I did NOT found an other solution. :-( For webmail it is the same problem. Most webmail provider add the sender IP address to the mail header: Received: from 23.23.23.23 (SquirrelMail authenticated user medium) by mail.provider.tld with HTTP; Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 07:37:04 +0300 (EAT) If 23.23.23.23 was a tor node, some mail providers will set the spam flag if a DNSBL was used. May be, some mail providers does not add the sender IP address to the mail header? Google Mail does not add it. Any other? Greetings Karsten N. *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: Sent e-mails going into spam folders.
On 09.02.2011 10:18, Karsten N. wrote: May be, some mail providers does not add the sender IP address to the mail header? Google Mail does not add it. Any other? Set up your own on a server not running Tor and remove the lines yourself. I have documented the process for Postfix: http://moblog.wiredwings.com/archives/20100501/Remove-IPs-from-Outgoing-Mail-Postfix-SMTP.html My outgoing mails are passed over my small exit anonymizer1.torservers.net, my home IP cleansed, to my ISPs mail server (see my mail headers). I haven't had problems with mail delivery so far. -- Moritz Bartl http://www.torservers.net/ *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: Sent e-mails going into spam folders.
On 09/02/2011 09:50, Moritz Bartl wrote: May be, some mail providers does not add the sender IP address to the mail header? Google Mail does not add it. Any other? Set up your own on a server not running Tor and remove the lines yourself. I have documented the process for Postfix: http://moblog.wiredwings.com/archives/20100501/Remove-IPs-from-Outgoing-Mail-Postfix-SMTP.html My outgoing mails are passed over my small exit anonymizer1.torservers.net, my home IP cleansed, to my ISPs mail server (see my mail headers). I haven't had problems with mail delivery so far. This is slightly going off on a tangent, but I wonder if any services like the following exist...? I'd like to set up an SMTP server as a hidden service to accept incoming email. It would need a gateway from the Internet though. So if somebody on the Internet emailed: usern...@myhiddenservice.example.com A machine on the Internet would accept that email and forward it on over Tor to: username@myhiddenservice.onion It would be trivial to set up such a gateway. Just set up a wildcard MX record on *.example.com, and configure up an MTA. Just wondering if it has been done though? -- Mike Cardwell https://grepular.com/ https://twitter.com/mickeyc Professional http://cardwellit.com/ http://linkedin.com/in/mikecardwell PGP.mit.edu 0018461F/35BC AF1D 3AA2 1F84 3DC3 B0CF 70A5 F512 0018 461F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Sent e-mails going into spam folders.
On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 10:18 +0100, Karsten N. tor-ad...@privacyfoundation.de wrote: Am 09.02.2011 10:06, schrieb Karsten N.: (I did found an other solution for SMTP) Sorry - I did NOT found an other solution. :-( For webmail it is the same problem. Most webmail provider add the sender IP address to the mail header: Received: from 23.23.23.23 (SquirrelMail authenticated user medium) by mail.provider.tld with HTTP; Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 07:37:04 +0300 (EAT) If 23.23.23.23 was a tor node, some mail providers will set the spam flag if a DNSBL was used. May be, some mail providers does not add the sender IP address to the mail header? Google Mail does not add it. Any other? Fastmail, maybe Gawab.com GD -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Same, same, but different... *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: Sent e-mails going into spam folders.
On 07/02/11 22:53, Joe Btfsplk wrote: On 2/7/2011 4:17 PM, Jon wrote: I don't have any problems generally. It depends on what is in the body of the email and what one's filters are. *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/ No problems here. Are or-talk messages you're SENDING or RECEIVING getting flagged? Assuming ones received, just add or-t...@seul.org and or-talk@freehaven.net to your address book, or create filters to allow them through. I created subfolders in Thunderbird, for sent or-talk msgs, rec'd. That way, there's not so many in main inbox. *** I didn't explain myself very well. I meant that if matt...@yahoo.com or matt...@hotmail.com or matt...@gmail.com or matt...@aol.com sends an e-mail to da...@yahoo.com or da...@gmail.com or da...@aol.com or da...@hotmail.com does the fact that the sending IP will be an exit node affect the likelihood that the e-mail will end up in the spam folder rather than the inbox? IOW: are webmail providers assuming that in some cases tor nodes are spammy? *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: Sent e-mails going into spam folders.
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 2:07 AM, Matthew pump...@cotse.net wrote: I didn't explain myself very well. I meant that if matt...@yahoo.com or matt...@hotmail.com or matt...@gmail.com or matt...@aol.com sends an e-mail to da...@yahoo.com or da...@gmail.com or da...@aol.com or da...@hotmail.com does the fact that the sending IP will be an exit node affect the likelihood that the e-mail will end up in the spam folder rather than the inbox? IOW: are webmail providers assuming that in some cases tor nodes are spammy? *** The only time I have any somthing end up in the spam folder from any of those emial ip addys, is if something in the body is considered spam. Which is set up thru the spam filters. other wise everything gets thru. I have a lot of email coming thru from all those email ip addys. tho aol is a lot lower. Jon *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Sent e-mails going into spam folders.
I am wondering to what degree people on this list have problems with e-mails going into spam folders because they are using tor nodes. I refer to sending from a webmail (Hotmail, Yahoo, Gmail, AOL, etc) to another webmail. It seems to me that e-mails sent from Yahoo will end up as spam. Any other experiences or opinions would be interesting.
Re: Sent e-mails going into spam folders.
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Matthew pump...@cotse.net wrote: I am wondering to what degree people on this list have problems with e-mails going into spam folders because they are using tor nodes. I refer to sending from a webmail (Hotmail, Yahoo, Gmail, AOL, etc) to another webmail. It seems to me that e-mails sent from Yahoo will end up as spam. Any other experiences or opinions would be interesting. I don't have any problems generally. It depends on what is in the body of the email and what one's filters are. *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: Sent e-mails going into spam folders.
On 2/7/2011 4:17 PM, Jon wrote: I don't have any problems generally. It depends on what is in the body of the email and what one's filters are. *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/ No problems here. Are or-talk messages you're SENDING or RECEIVING getting flagged? Assuming ones received, just add or-t...@seul.org and or-talk@freehaven.net to your address book, or create filters to allow them through. I created subfolders in Thunderbird, for sent or-talk msgs, rec'd. That way, there's not so many in main inbox. *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: Sent e-mails going into spam folders.
On 2/7/2011 1:00 PM, Matthew wrote: I am wondering to what degree people on this list have problems with e-mails going into spam folders because they are using tor nodes. I refer to sending from a webmail (Hotmail, Yahoo, Gmail, AOL, etc) to another webmail. It seems to me that e-mails sent from Yahoo will end up as spam. Any other experiences or opinions would be interesting. Interesting that you mention that. I have McAfee Anti-Spam running on my Thunderbird client which happens to be configured to access several web-mail accounts via localhost:8118 by FoxyProxy. That ports the mail through Polipo. Starting in early January McAfee began diverting about 40% of good mail to the respective Spam folders. McAfee acknowledges that there is a problem but so far they have not solved it. They have not examined my Thunderbird configuration nor have they even opened my Windows Registry, so they aren't very bright. David 0xDC7C8BF3.asc Description: application/pgp-keys
