Re: icann opening up of tld's
Roger Dingledine wrote: On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 12:30:48PM +0100, Dawney Smith wrote: SNIP (Insert request for well-documented secure transparent proxying solution here. :) --Roger hehe, working on it. ;)
icann opening up of tld's
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, Regarding icann's announcement on Thursday about the opening up of TLD's detailed at this url: http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-4-26jun08-en.htm What would be the hidden service privacy implications of someone registering the .onion tld? Is this something the tor project should look into doing next year? dawn -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIZiDocoR2aV1igfIRAluKAKCWy3bTdWNajwY2T2reAAO5TcrGewCeKWpb X/RdeXkBNXj8mWyZyc1WQAQ= =7jGc -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: icann opening up of tld's
Presumably any problems could be avoided by changing the pseudo-tld to something really obscene... On 28 Jun 2008, at 12:30, Dawney Smith wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, Regarding icann's announcement on Thursday about the opening up of TLD's detailed at this url: http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-4-26jun08-en.htm What would be the hidden service privacy implications of someone registering the .onion tld? Is this something the tor project should look into doing next year? dawn
Re: icann opening up of tld's
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Geoff Down wrote: Presumably any problems could be avoided by changing the pseudo-tld to something really obscene... .onionporn? SCNR Alex. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) iQCVAwUBSGYzuBYlVVSQ3uFxAQJXkgP8DOB4xMsvV3U9TI9EAnsS4rfqkn7K3VQS kiTYZ/8PIAkYj4JYwy5YwNvpVi/4OHkxN6epzrh2IiFETbQ/jgKQBicKu40/S9xg G8QIFZ1fzMiddR+9pjGMn1fsSIUvraqFtWuFeWJtblAWad3rvFb2ddjCeI00LMsm PszeQmW9PmU= =CuzM -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: icann opening up of tld's
I like it when they peel their layers off reeeally slowly - makes my eyes water just thinking about it ;) On 28 Jun 2008, at 13:51, Alexander W. Janssen wrote: .onionporn? SCNR Alex.
Re: icann opening up of tld's
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 12:30:48PM +0100, Dawney Smith wrote: Hello, Regarding icann's announcement on Thursday about the opening up of TLD's detailed at this url: http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-4-26jun08-en.htm What would be the hidden service privacy implications of someone registering the .onion tld? Is this something the tor project should look into doing next year? Well, the first thing to keep in mind is that the Tor client intercepts addresses, notices whether they're a .onion address, and handles them itself. So if suddenly a top-level .onion domain springs into existence, the only real change will be that Tor users won't be able to reach the new real .onion sites. There remains a security concern for folks who think they're using Tor and accidentally aren't -- they will attempt to resolve the .onion address locally. Currently they'll get a resolve failure, but if there's a new tld they could get a page back. I don't think this is much of a new vulnerability though, because a local attacker can already spoof DNS responses and send you to their page. But again this is only a worry if you have your Tor misconfigured. (Insert request for well-documented secure transparent proxying solution here. :) --Roger
Re: icann opening up of tld's
According to the announcement: Trademarks will not be automatically reserved. But there will be an objection-based mechanism for trademark owners where their arguments for protection will be considered. How expensive or practical is it to trademark .onion for purposes of the Tor network? There will be a limited application period where any established entity from anywhere in the world can submit an application that will go through an evaluation process. Is an application to ICANN being considered? The Tor project and network is a well established entity, having an office etc and thousands of relay nodes (by next year).
Re: icann opening up of tld's
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 09:35:36PM -0400, krishna e bera wrote: According to the announcement: Trademarks will not be automatically reserved. But there will be an objection-based mechanism for trademark owners where their arguments for protection will be considered. How expensive or practical is it to trademark .onion for purposes of the Tor network? There will be a limited application period where any established entity from anywhere in the world can submit an application that will go through an evaluation process. Is an application to ICANN being considered? The Tor project and network is a well established entity, having an office etc and thousands of relay nodes (by next year). My understanding is that ICANN will not start taking applications until next year anyway. Supposedly the cost of a gTLD will be in the USD $100k+ range. I think that the central question for Tor at this moment is the tradeoff between the long-term value of purchasing a gTLD and the long-term value of spending the USD $100k on Tor development. Given the amount of Tor development work that needs to be done, I am inclined to think that Tor should not spend its money this way. Perhaps some nice fellow will donate a gTLD instead. Geoff signature.asc Description: Digital signature
