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RE: ADMIN PLZ REPLY - FW: !!Please Read - Oracle-L moving!!

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Re: Unusable partition index -- working funny

2004-01-22 Thread Jonathan Lewis

I would check which index is being reported as
unusable, and check the access path for the
query when all indexes are useable.

Since you have a statement level trigger, I suspect
Oracle is producing an execution plan that dictate
the use of index X.

The plan executes, which means the trigger fires,
but the execution engine is committed to using
index X - which happens to be unusable, so the
statement fails.

On the second call, the session parameters have
changed, so Oracle re-parses the update, and
ignores the unusable index, choosing a different
plan.  Consequently the update can work.

In the case where the index being used to access
the data is useable (i.e. where only the index on
the updated column is unusable), I would assume
that Oracle makes the decision about updating
indexes only after columns have been updated,
therefore it can notice the effect of session switch
in mid-statement.





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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Thanks for your reply Jonathan..Here is an update..
 The update that i sent you yesterday is updating a column on which there
 is a local bitmap index. There are also other local bitmsap indexes on
 that partitions. Yesterday i made all the local indexes pertaining to
 that partition UNUSABLE and we got the results that i posted
 yesterday..Today i went and made all the indexes usable and then made
 only the local index on the column which we are updating unusable while
 the rest of the local bitmap indexes were usable. and then the update
 stmt was run. There was NO problem at all. It ran the first time without
 giving the error of index being in the unusable state. That nmeans the
 trigger has fired. So what would be the explanation in this case.
 If i make only that local bitmap index unusable, it works ok but if i
 make all the local bitmap indexes unusable in that partition, we get the
 situation that i posted yesterday..

 Thanks,

 Sathish.

 
 SQL connect [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Enter password: **
   Connected.
   SQL UPDATE nevadmin.DM_MORTGAGE_LOAN_HIST SET ORIGINATION_SOURCE_KEY
=
   1 where
 2  mortgage_loan_key = 1 and period_key = '30-JUN-03';
   UPDATE nevadmin.DM_MORTGAGE_LOAN_HIST SET ORIGINATION_SOURCE_KEY =
   1166444 where
   *
   ERROR at line 1:
   ORA-01502: index 'NEVADMIN.DM_MORTGAGE_LOAN_HIST_BK13' or partition of
   such
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   SQL /
  
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 On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 00:24:25 -0800, Jonathan Lewis
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 
  It's probably the case that the trigger fires
  the first time - but at parse/optimise time
  Oracle had already determined the sequence
  of actions needed to execute the statement
  based on the then session state, so that sequence
  is played out, irrespective of the fact that you
  changed the session state in the middle of
  the sequence.
 
  By analogy, consider an update to an
  updatable join view which defaults to
  using a hash join.  If you create a before
  row update trigger to disable hash joins,
  would you expect Oracle to not do a hash
  join the first time the statement executes ?
 
 
  Regards
 
  Jonathan Lewis
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who can answer the questions, but the
person who can question the answers -- T. Schick Jr
 
 
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  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 12:19 AM
 
 
   Hello All,
 I have a strange problem...
 I have a table on which i am doing an update. Its a partition table
and
 the local index on the column which is being updated is in an
unusable
 state.
I have a database trigger at statement level (before update of col_a
for
) where i do an execute immediate ' alter session set
skip_unusable_indexes = true';
  
 

Re: fast commit

2004-01-22 Thread Jonathan Lewis
Note in-line

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Hi list,

1)Why fast commit generate no redo ?

It's called a fast commit BECAUSE it doesn't generate redo
(except for a tiny bit that describes the change to the transaction
table entry in the segment header block that marked the transaction
as active).

It doesn't need to generate redo because it's going to leave
(most of) the lock and change information on the blocks that
have been changed, and let some other visiter to the blocks
clean up the mess.

2)Is delayed cleanout generate redo?

Delayed block cleanout - where a later operation simply READS
a messy block and cleans it up (by referring back to the transaction
table to get the necessary commit details) will generate redo.

Delayed-logging block cleanout - which occurs when the first
transactions cleans out a few of the blocks it has dirtied but
does not log the cleanout - is effectively not going to generate
redo, as the next transaction to MODIFY the date will generate
some undo which looks as if it started from a clean block, rather
than the partly dirty block that is really there - so the cleanout is
effectively free.

3)In a block dump even after transactions commit why it shows lock 1 in ITL?

Because Oracle doesn't clean the block out properly, it will either
not revisit it at all (1), or just revisit the ITL and a couple of header
bytes (2).


Thanks in advance.
Syed


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Re: Re: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak

2004-01-22 Thread Ryan
Im not sure I see what the size of the PAT has to do with a memory leak. On
metalink there is a laundry list of PGA things that were supposedly causing
memory leaks prior to 9.2.0.4. Are you certain its PAT causing it? Maybe
they didnt fix all the memory leaks with the PGA in general?

has anyone had any production issues with pga memory leaks? There are a
series of notes on metalink about this.
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 --- Kirtikumar Deshpande
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  I think it depends on your applications.
 
  In DSS type environments we are still stuggling to
  figure out if P_A_T is helping or not. Initial
  tests are not in P_A_T's favor.
 
  But in another Application, that is 80% OLTP, P_A_T
  was the only choice to avoid swapping. This
  9.2.0.3 database had the S_A_S set to 2MB (S_A_R_S =
  1MB)at the instance level. It has over 600
  persistent users. No MTS in use.
 
  - Kirti

 Kirti,

 I saw in a 9.2.0.4 database just this evening, much to
 my surprise, an ORA-00600 in the alert log with - you
 guessed it - [723], [10332], [10332], [memory leak].

 The database was setup in a less than optimal fashion
 as far as memory allocations go. The initial
 pga_aggregate_target was only 64M (server had 3 GB of
 memory and only one instance up) so I'm calling this
 one a non-sensical configuration error for the moment,
 as there is no need to size a PGA so small. If you're
 running with that small a memory footprint, don't use
 pga_aggregate_target.

 After resetting the parameter to 256M and cycling the
 instance, no ORA-00600's were recorded at instance
 shutdown. That was not really a good test though, will
 have to see tomorrow evening after the day's load has
 hit it.

 Paul

 this was on w2k server sp3, 9.2.0.4 std ed


From: Kirtikumar Deshpande
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Date: 2004/01/21 Wed PM 02:44:31 EST
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
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Subject: Re: pga_aggregate_target and a memory
  leak
   
Replies in line...
   
- Kirti
   
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Kirti, you're back!
   
Thanks. Found some slack time from routine DBA
  work!
   
 Must have finished the book.  :)
   
Not yet.. Its tough..

 Re the PGA problems, what was the value for
  'over allocation count' in
 v$pgastat?
   
Actually, I never bothered to look at v$pgastat.
  Should have.. and will, when we do some more
testing next week..

 Did you try increasing P_A_T to a larger
  number?
   
Yes...
   
 Oracle is supposed to grab the memory it
  needs, if available, regardless
 of
 the P_A_T setting.

 Also, did your system go in to excessive
  paging or swapping?
   
Yes, it did with a large P_A_T.
   
 I've been curious as to what the effects would
  be of having P_A_T too low.
   
I saw more disk sorts..
   
As time permits, I will play with event 10032,
  10033 trace for sorts to see what's going on..
   
 Oracle is supposed to grab whatever memory it
  needs.  I'm assuming at this
 point that doing so involves a different code
  path as it needs to alloc
 the memory.

 Don't know what the cost of that is, haven't
  tried to test it.

 It seems likely that the OS was out of memory,
  regardless of the P_A_T
 value.

No. The system has 4 GB of physical memory. Over
  2GB was free.
   
 Jared


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  pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak


 Setting P_A_T to a 1GB limit with over 2GB of
  *available memory* on AIX
 4.3.3 and 9.2.0.4 caused
 ORA-4030, till we turned off hash joins. OS
  level resources (ulimit -a)
 were all set to
 'unlimited'. In a very limited testing,
  setting P_A_T to less than S_A_S
 (and S_A_R_S) worked,
 however, the disk sorts increased. Finally,
  Developers chose no hash
 joins, 1GB P_A_T and 'AUTO'
 workarea_size_policy... seems to run okay...

 - Kirti

 --- Stephane Faroult [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   One of our production DBAs does not want
  to use pga_aggregate_target
 on a 9.2.0.3 instance due
  to a possible memory leak. The only note on
  memory leaks and
 pga_aggregate_target I can find on
  metalink is: 334427.995
  
   doesnt seem to apply to
  pga_aggregate_target. We are on sun solaris.
 Dont know version
  offhand.
  
   he is under the impression that if we
  patch to 9.2.0.4 this goes away.
 not sure about that
  either...
  
 
  Be careful with 

Ixora off-line, moved?

2004-01-22 Thread Carel-Jan Engel
ixora.com.au seems to be unavailable. Any clue?


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Re: Oracle 8.1.7 can only use the first 15th indexes?

2004-01-22 Thread Jonathan Lewis

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 From: Kaing, Leng [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Brilliant example. Thanks very much for this. (And yes, I meant the first
15th for each index, not the first 15th for the entire database!)

I had to ask, as once upon a time people used to say
that Oracle was limited to using a maximum of 5 indexes
in any one query.  (Misunderstanding the manuals comments
about the maximum number of indexes that could be used
in the AND-EQUAL path of a single table, I believe).

 And yes, I do think that 15 indexes is a bit excessive but I can't help it
at the moment (3rd party, packaged application...)

It's not necessarily wrong - just something to
be suspicious of when you start from cold at
a site.


 Does this mean that I'm reading another myth? Couldn't confirm it on
metalink.

I've never seen anything like it claimed before.
Maybe it's something to do with the fact that
the manuals list 15 rankings in the RBO ;)


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RE: Ixora off-line, moved?

2004-01-22 Thread Suhen Pather (S)


I also tried this morning a few times and it was down.



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RE: ADMIN PLZ REPLY - FW: !!Please Read - Oracle-L moving!!

2004-01-22 Thread Ganesh Raja
Yes indeed It is.. :)

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Re: fast commit

2004-01-22 Thread Sultan Syed
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 Hi list,

 1)Why fast commit generate no redo ?

 It's called a fast commit BECAUSE it doesn't generate redo
 (except for a tiny bit that describes the change to the transaction
 table entry in the segment header block that marked the transaction
 as active).

 It doesn't need to generate redo because it's going to leave
 (most of) the lock and change information on the blocks that
 have been changed, and let some other visiter to the blocks
 clean up the mess.

 2)Is delayed cleanout generate redo?

 Delayed block cleanout - where a later operation simply READS
 a messy block and cleans it up (by referring back to the transaction
 table to get the necessary commit details) will generate redo.

 Delayed-logging block cleanout - which occurs when the first
 transactions cleans out a few of the blocks it has dirtied but
 does not log the cleanout - is effectively not going to generate
 redo, as the next transaction to MODIFY the date will generate
 some undo which looks as if it started from a clean block, rather
 than the partly dirty block that is really there - so the cleanout is
 effectively free.

 3)In a block dump even after transactions commit why it shows lock 1 in
ITL?

 Because Oracle doesn't clean the block out properly, it will either
 not revisit it at all (1), or just revisit the ITL and a couple of header
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RE: Has anyone done any scalability work on dbms_lock?

2004-01-22 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Just remember these words about global contexts ... 'doesn't work correctly in RAC' 
... 

A global context is global only within instance ... not across.

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 Jonathan Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Sounds like you just need each user to call allocate_unique
 on startup to get a group-specific handle, then do a 
 request in exclusive mode before doing the job and 
 a release on completion. Users will then naturally queue
 and resume with minimum lost time.  

Yes.  We have a stored package with a few global constants
and some setup functions that gets called on startup of
any forms session.  That's where we plan to do the startup
work.  When needed the forms will then do request/release.

You could probably
 do the thing just as easily by issuing a select for update
 against a group-id row in a table - but dbms_lock makes
 it easier because it can bypass the normal commit  activity.

That is the problem with Forms.  It's not always easy to streamline 
where a commit is gonna be done or not.  In fact, the user can initiate 
the commit or rollback at any stage.  So, we needed something a little
bit more flexible than the select for update.   The dbms_lock was
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Trigger question

2004-01-22 Thread roland . skoldblom
Hallo everyone,

I have the table system_change

and I I have the insert statement here below  be run when there is an update or insert 
 of a value in any ofthe fields

ORGANIZATION_NUMBER
LEGAL_NAME
COMPANY_FORM_ID
ORDER_STOP

in table COMPANY


insert into system_change
values(system_change_id.nextval, 1, null,null, null, null, null, 1, SYSDATE, 1, 
SYSDATE,1 )


How can I write the code in the easiest way?

Thanks in advance


Roland


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Re: Trigger question

2004-01-22 Thread Carel-Jan Engel
Enable auditing on COMPANY?

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 Hallo everyone,

 I have the table system_change

 and I I have the insert statement here below  be run when there is an
 update or insert  of a value in any ofthe fields

 ORGANIZATION_NUMBER
 LEGAL_NAME
 COMPANY_FORM_ID
 ORDER_STOP

 in table COMPANY


 insert into system_change
 values(system_change_id.nextval, 1, null,null, null, null, null, 1,
 SYSDATE, 1, SYSDATE,1 )


 How can I write the code in the easiest way?

 Thanks in advance


 Roland


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Re: Re: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak

2004-01-22 Thread Kirtikumar Deshpande
Paul,
Most of my work is on HP-UX and AIX.
I have yet to see any ORA-600 and memory leaks related to P_A_T. All databases that I 
work with
are   on 9.2.0.4, except just one running on 9.2.0.3. No memory leak there either. 

- Kirti 
 
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  I think it depends on your applications. 
  
  In DSS type environments we are still stuggling to
  figure out if P_A_T is helping or not. Initial
  tests are not in P_A_T's favor. 
  
  But in another Application, that is 80% OLTP, P_A_T
  was the only choice to avoid swapping. This
  9.2.0.3 database had the S_A_S set to 2MB (S_A_R_S =
  1MB)at the instance level. It has over 600 
  persistent users. No MTS in use. 
  
  - Kirti 
 
 Kirti,
 
 I saw in a 9.2.0.4 database just this evening, much to
 my surprise, an ORA-00600 in the alert log with - you
 guessed it - [723], [10332], [10332], [memory leak].
 
 The database was setup in a less than optimal fashion
 as far as memory allocations go. The initial
 pga_aggregate_target was only 64M (server had 3 GB of
 memory and only one instance up) so I'm calling this
 one a non-sensical configuration error for the moment,
 as there is no need to size a PGA so small. If you're
 running with that small a memory footprint, don't use
 pga_aggregate_target.
 
 After resetting the parameter to 256M and cycling the
 instance, no ORA-00600's were recorded at instance
 shutdown. That was not really a good test though, will
 have to see tomorrow evening after the day's load has
 hit it.
 
 Paul
 
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any over head with DBMS_STATS.ALTER_DATABASE_TABLE_MONITORING

2004-01-22 Thread ryan.gaffuri
Especially on high transaction tables? I dont have any numbers for transactions/second 
since we are not live. Any known issues? how does the monitoring work? Does it use an 
internal trigger and then use SQL to write the data? or does the monitoring data 
bypass the SQL layer and get written directly to the block? 

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RE: Healty ratio of index segment size vs table segment size?

2004-01-22 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Branimir
Beware of simple ratios.

The logic is seductive. It seems likely that an easy way to find
unnecessary indexes is to look at a ratio such as you describe. And it
shouldn't pose much load on a system to do a quick report on ratio. But what
would it mean in practice? Just go around dropping indexes on tables that
exceed their quota? 
I haven't used the index monitoring feature, and a cautious DBA always
makes a small test before widespread deployment, but from what I've been
told, the monitoring feature is pretty low overhead. 

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Wondering if there is a rule of thumb, quick'n fast but good enough 
to be used as an indicator, litmus paper so to speak, of overly indexed 
table(s)...

Can, better yet - should, sheer size comparison of index versus table 
segments be used as a reliable pointer to problematic table indexing?

If it can, what could be considered as average healthy ratio above
which would be prudent to have a closer look and investigate?

Related to the above dilemma, how expensive is to monitor index usage,
say if script is run against all few hundred indexes on app tables, 
would the additional load noticeably affect application performance or 
is it better/safer or may be required to monitor not more than just a 
few most suspected indexes at a time?

Thoughts, pointers, opinions - appreciated.

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Trigger question

2004-01-22 Thread roland . skoldblom
Hallo,

I have the table system_change

and I I have the insert statement here below  be run when there is an update or insert 
 of any of the fields

ORGANIZATION_NUMBER
LEGAL_NAME
COMPANY_FORM_ID
ORDER_STOP

in table COMPANY

The script bo be run is this one:

insert into system_change
values(system_change_id.nextval, 1, null,null, null, null, null, 1, SYSDATE, 1, 
SYSDATE,1 )


How can I write the code in the easiest way?

All help is appreciated!


Roland


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RE: Old thread - trace file location

2004-01-22 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Thanks Alexander. I wasn't aware of this new feature. It will certainly make
my script much simpler.



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For 9.2 users: 

Alter database backup controlfile to trase as '/disk1/backup/ccf.sql' reuse
noresetlogs; 

Alex. 

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Okay, I was hallucinating -- and it is only Wednesday! I had been looking
through some old emails yesterday. The thread was on September 17  18,
2002. If you are interested, go to Google and enter Oracle-l backup
controlfile to trace. Elegant solutions were posted by Waleed Khedr,
Richard Markham, and Ron Thomas. 

Dennis Williams 
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Unless I am hallucinating (always a distinct possibility), there was a
recent discussion on this list about the trace file location when you
perform an ALTER DATABASE BACKUP CONTROLFILE TO TRACE, with some ingenious
solutions. I didn't think I'd need this, so deleted the postings. Well,
guess what I need that. Could someone who saved some of these forward me the
date and subject? Do it privately to avoid clogging the bandwidth. Thanks.

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RE: Trigger question

2004-01-22 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
The easiest way to write code for me is to use a text editor and sqlplus, always works 
for me.

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Hallo,

I have the table system_change

and I I have the insert statement here below  be run when there is an update or insert 
 of any of the fields

ORGANIZATION_NUMBER
LEGAL_NAME
COMPANY_FORM_ID
ORDER_STOP

in table COMPANY

The script bo be run is this one:

insert into system_change
values(system_change_id.nextval, 1, null,null, null, null, null, 1, SYSDATE, 1, 
SYSDATE,1 )


How can I write the code in the easiest way?

All help is appreciated!
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data manipulation of a large unix file

2004-01-22 Thread ryan.gaffuri
We are getting a feed of an 800 MB file that will come in nightly. It needs to be 
loaded to the database. Per requirements, we have to add some data to the file before 
loading(its not negotiable). 

ksh eats up 24% of total CPU on a 4 CPU Solaris box. We cannot do this. I am not 
allowed to stream it with a named pipe. any other solutions? 


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Metalink on the blink

2004-01-22 Thread Adams, Matthew (GECP, MABG, 088130)
Title: Metalink on the blink





Is anyone else having problems with Metalink this morning
or is it just us? We can't log in at all.


Matt



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Re: RE: Healty ratio of index segment size vs table segment size?

2004-01-22 Thread ryan.gaffuri
comments in line... I may need correction from some of you on this. 
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 Wondering if there is a rule of thumb, quick'n fast but good enough 
 to be used as an indicator, litmus paper so to speak, of overly indexed 
 table(s)...

the only rule of thumb I have seen is the script on Steve Adams site at 
www.ixora.com.au that finds unnecessary indexes. The site appears to be down, so you 
can try google and the cache feature. 

 
 Can, better yet - should, sheer size comparison of index versus table 
 segments be used as a reliable pointer to problematic table indexing?

No. some people would argue that the size of an index is an indicator of needing a 
rebuild, but many of the big time tuners say this is not true, so I take their advice. 

Disk space is cheap. 

 
 If it can, what could be considered as average healthy ratio above
 which would be prudent to have a closer look and investigate?

no,no,no... I hate ratios. 
 
 Related to the above dilemma, how expensive is to monitor index usage,
 say if script is run against all few hundred indexes on app tables, 
 would the additional load noticeably affect application performance or 
 is it better/safer or may be required to monitor not more than just a 
 few most suspected indexes at a time?

do all monitoring during off peak hours. Can you run it over the weekend? Benchmark 
it. You can do alot of good monitoring during off peak hours. I run all kinds of high 
load stuff on the weekends. You may want to run Steven Adams script once a month or 
so. Do it from a batch job and send yourself an email if something comes up. 
 
 Thoughts, pointers, opinions - appreciated.
 
 Branimir  
 

The key to a good index screen is database design and understanding the goal of your 
system. What are you users trying to do most frequently? What is most critical to the 
system? Design towards that. Can you make a small change to your data model so that 
you do not really need to add an extra index and what is the impact of it? (pros and 
cons to everything). 

The big question is are your indexes affecting performance of your DML statements? do 
you foresee any possible problems in the future? 

Could someone correct me here. Im willing to bet Im half right.. though not sure which 
half. 

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RE: Metalink on the blink

2004-01-22 Thread Goulet, Dick
Title: Metalink on the blink



A 
little slow, but nothing out of the ordinary.

Dick GouletSenior Oracle DBAOracle Certified 8i 
DBA 

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Automatic or Uniform allocation

2004-01-22 Thread Odland, Brad
for LMTs...

Advantages in uniform versus automatic?

Uniform 5 MB? 10 MB.100MB etc


thoughts would be appreciatd

Thanks

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RE: Metalink on the blink

2004-01-22 Thread April Wells
Title: Metalink on the blink



I avoid the log in problem... I just stay logged in all week. Saves 
time in the long run. It is running REALLY slowly, though... (I was 
putting that down to our crappy network) and I logged out and back 
in... Nope... It's just you Matt!

=)



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Re: Metalink on the blink

2004-01-22 Thread Stephen Andert
I've just logged in and reviewed an old TAR and did a survey on a closed
TAR.

Maybe it's you :)

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RE: Metalink on the blink

2004-01-22 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
 
Matthew - Works fine for me.



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Is anyone else having problems with Metalink this morning 
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RE: data manipulation of a large Unix file

2004-01-22 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
considered Perl ?? also the load you mention is for what? adding data to the data file 
you get or loading into the db??

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We are getting a feed of an 800 MB file that will come in nightly. It needs to be 
loaded to the database. Per requirements, we have to add some data to the file before 
loading(its not negotiable). 

ksh eats up 24% of total CPU on a 4 CPU Solaris box. We cannot do this. I am not 
allowed to stream it with a named pipe. any other solutions? 


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Re: data manipulation of a large unix file

2004-01-22 Thread Ron Rogers
Ryan,
 Could you cat the second file on to the end of the first file and have
the data load successfully?
cat file2  file1

How about a second box  to perform the editing of the data file.
Something that resource intensive and manditory should not have a
problem getting funded.
Ron

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We are getting a feed of an 800 MB file that will come in nightly. It
needs to be loaded to the database. Per requirements, we have to add
some data to the file before loading(its not negotiable). 

ksh eats up 24% of total CPU on a 4 CPU Solaris box. We cannot do this.
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RE: Metalink on the blink

2004-01-22 Thread John B. Wells
Title: Metalink on the blink









Painfully slow, but it works.



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RE: Metalink on the blink

2004-01-22 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: Metalink on the blink



not me ... it is working fine ...

Raj
 
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com All Views expressed in this email 
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RE: Metalink on the blink

2004-01-22 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Title: Metalink on the blink



but 
their education site is off the air (at least it was an hour 
ago)

Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional 

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  A 
  little slow, but nothing out of the ordinary.
  
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RE: data manipulation of a large unix file

2004-01-22 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Ryan - Can you provide more details? Typically ksh scripts are much, much
more efficient than alternate methods, such as manipulating data within the
database. Depending on which method you are using to measure CPU usage, you
may be seeing 1/4 of one CPU. But even if your script is using a full CPU,
that may not be unreasonable. The real question is how long the CPU is used.

Dennis Williams
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We are getting a feed of an 800 MB file that will come in nightly. It needs
to be loaded to the database. Per requirements, we have to add some data to
the file before loading(its not negotiable). 

ksh eats up 24% of total CPU on a 4 CPU Solaris box. We cannot do this. I am
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Re: Metalink on the blink

2004-01-22 Thread Mladen Gogala
On 01/22/2004 09:59:27 AM, Adams, Matthew (GECP, MABG, 088130) wrote:
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It's just you. What did you do to Larry to punished in such a way?
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Re: Automatic or Uniform allocation

2004-01-22 Thread Ron Rogers
Brad,
 For LMT's I prefer uniform sizing that I can define to meet the needs
of the data. If you use automatic the extend sizes will change
drimatically as the number if extends increase. With a little planning
you can have little waste in the tablespace and use the tablespace for
multiple tables of the same size requirements.
We have used the partitioning and LMT's for the yearly data we have,
about 5 gig per table per year and the extend count is only around 100
with minimal free space. It makes it easier in the planning stage if you
can keep it simple.
Ron

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/22/2004 10:14:34 AM 
for LMTs...

Advantages in uniform versus automatic?

Uniform 5 MB? 10 MB.100MB etc


thoughts would be appreciatd

Thanks

Brad


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How to get unique value using AWK?

2004-01-22 Thread jaysingh1
Hi All,

My manager wants to get all the unique wait events from the trace file.
I tried the below but how do i get DISTICT wait event name?

Any help would be really appreciated.

$ grep -i WAIT devdb1_ora_989.trc_orig|awk '{print $3  $4   $5  $6}'|more
nam='SQL*Net message to client'
nam='SQL*Net message from client'
nam='library cache lock' ela=
nam='SQL*Net message to client'
nam='SQL*Net message from client'
nam='SQL*Net message to client'
nam='SQL*Net message from client'
nam='SQL*Net message to client'
nam='SQL*Net message from client'
nam='SQL*Net message to client'
nam='SQL*Net message from client'
nam='SQL*Net message to client'
nam='SQL*Net message from client'
nam='SQL*Net message to client'


Thanks
Jay

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RE: Automatic or Uniform allocation

2004-01-22 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
We need to start moving these discussions to freelists per Jared's note.

Brad - I agree with Ron. I think it is critical to read How to quit
defragmenting . . . before making the change to ensure you clearly
understand the concepts and receive the benefits. If someone on the list
knows of a more recent paper, please post it.

With uniform extents, you eliminate tablespace fragmentation, in addition to
Ron's points.

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Brad,
 For LMT's I prefer uniform sizing that I can define to meet the needs
of the data. If you use automatic the extend sizes will change
drimatically as the number if extends increase. With a little planning
you can have little waste in the tablespace and use the tablespace for
multiple tables of the same size requirements.
We have used the partitioning and LMT's for the yearly data we have,
about 5 gig per table per year and the extend count is only around 100
with minimal free space. It makes it easier in the planning stage if you
can keep it simple.
Ron

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/22/2004 10:14:34 AM 
for LMTs...

Advantages in uniform versus automatic?

Uniform 5 MB? 10 MB.100MB etc


thoughts would be appreciatd

Thanks

Brad


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RE: ADMIN PLZ REPLY - FW: !!Please Read - Oracle-L moving!!

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How to find the last execution time of a Procedure.

2004-01-22 Thread Prasada . Gunda

Hi All,

Is there anyway to find out from data dictionary views when was a database
procedure/function last executed. Would like know the solution for  8i and
9i databases.  We have some older code in the databases and do not know if
any application is using it or not.

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RE: ADMIN PLZ REPLY - FW: !!Please Read - Oracle-L moving!!

2004-01-22 Thread Goulet, Dick
Bruce,

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RE: How to get unique value using AWK?

2004-01-22 Thread Simpson, Ken
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 Subject: How to get unique value using AWK?
 
 
 Hi All,
 
 My manager wants to get all the unique wait events from the 
 trace file.
 I tried the below but how do i get DISTICT wait event name?
 
 Any help would be really appreciated.
 
 $ grep -i WAIT devdb1_ora_989.trc_orig|awk '{print $3  $4  
  $5  $6}'|more
 nam='SQL*Net message to client'
 nam='SQL*Net message from client'
 nam='library cache lock' ela=
 nam='SQL*Net message to client'
 nam='SQL*Net message from client'
 nam='SQL*Net message to client'
 nam='SQL*Net message from client'
 nam='SQL*Net message to client'
 nam='SQL*Net message from client'
 nam='SQL*Net message to client'
 nam='SQL*Net message from client'
 nam='SQL*Net message to client'
 nam='SQL*Net message from client'
 nam='SQL*Net message to client'
 
 
 Thanks
 Jay
 

How about piping it through uniq? 

$ grep -i WAIT devdb1_ora_989.trc_orig|awk '{print $3  $4   $5 
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RE: How to get unique value using AWK?

2004-01-22 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
pipe it through uniq

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Hi All,

My manager wants to get all the unique wait events from the trace file.
I tried the below but how do i get DISTICT wait event name?

Any help would be really appreciated.

$ grep -i WAIT devdb1_ora_989.trc_orig|awk '{print $3  $4   $5  $6}'|more
nam='SQL*Net message to client'
nam='SQL*Net message from client'
nam='library cache lock' ela=
nam='SQL*Net message to client'
nam='SQL*Net message from client'
nam='SQL*Net message to client'
nam='SQL*Net message from client'
nam='SQL*Net message to client'
nam='SQL*Net message from client'
nam='SQL*Net message to client'
nam='SQL*Net message from client'
nam='SQL*Net message to client'
nam='SQL*Net message from client'
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Thanks
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RE: How to find the last execution time of a Procedure.

2004-01-22 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
not easily, but you could probably scan through x$kglob (frequently) and see if the 
name exists ... if it is, it means it was loaded for execution.

Another solution might be to modify old code and have them add a row in a separate 
table using autonomous transaction to indicate they got executed. Then wait for couple 
of months and it will give you some good idea.

Of course people who know more than I do will have better solutions.
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Hi All,

Is there anyway to find out from data dictionary views when was a database
procedure/function last executed. Would like know the solution for  8i and
9i databases.  We have some older code in the databases and do not know if
any application is using it or not.

I appreciate your help.

Thanks  Best Regards,
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Thanks Bruce

2004-01-22 Thread Thomas Day

It's been a great ride.



   

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RE: RE: Has anyone done any scalability work on dbms_lock?

2004-01-22 Thread Goulet, Dick
Well, I don't know about anyone else, but I make use of it to synchronize data upload 
programs for our testers.  Can't have two instances of the upload program processing 
the same tester, they'd duplicate data.  Anyhow, we normally run 4 instances of this 
program  the dbms_lock package works absolutely fantastically.

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Hmm, that's actually a very good idea.
It might actually do the job here. Thanks.
Nuno Souto
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 if it is single instance you could also use global application
 contexts ... (alas they don't work in RAC across node) ...
 
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RE: Re: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak

2004-01-22 Thread Arnold, Sandra
I have had a problem on my 9i database for three weeks.  I am getting a
ORA-7445 error which is pointing to some memory problems.  It is occurring
during the CTX_DOC.FILTER process.  We are running this process from a
custom PL/SQL package that is being initiated from an Oracle Job.  However,
we still have the problem when we run it from a crontab job.  I currently
have a 21 page TAR concerning this problem.

Sandra Arnold
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Im not sure I see what the size of the PAT has to do with a memory leak. On
metalink there is a laundry list of PGA things that were supposedly causing
memory leaks prior to 9.2.0.4. Are you certain its PAT causing it? Maybe
they didnt fix all the memory leaks with the PGA in general?

has anyone had any production issues with pga memory leaks? There are a
series of notes on metalink about this.
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 --- Kirtikumar Deshpande
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  I think it depends on your applications.
 
  In DSS type environments we are still stuggling to
  figure out if P_A_T is helping or not. Initial
  tests are not in P_A_T's favor.
 
  But in another Application, that is 80% OLTP, P_A_T
  was the only choice to avoid swapping. This
  9.2.0.3 database had the S_A_S set to 2MB (S_A_R_S =
  1MB)at the instance level. It has over 600
  persistent users. No MTS in use.
 
  - Kirti

 Kirti,

 I saw in a 9.2.0.4 database just this evening, much to
 my surprise, an ORA-00600 in the alert log with - you
 guessed it - [723], [10332], [10332], [memory leak].

 The database was setup in a less than optimal fashion
 as far as memory allocations go. The initial
 pga_aggregate_target was only 64M (server had 3 GB of
 memory and only one instance up) so I'm calling this
 one a non-sensical configuration error for the moment,
 as there is no need to size a PGA so small. If you're
 running with that small a memory footprint, don't use
 pga_aggregate_target.

 After resetting the parameter to 256M and cycling the
 instance, no ORA-00600's were recorded at instance
 shutdown. That was not really a good test though, will
 have to see tomorrow evening after the day's load has
 hit it.

 Paul

 this was on w2k server sp3, 9.2.0.4 std ed


From: Kirtikumar Deshpande
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Date: 2004/01/21 Wed PM 02:44:31 EST
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
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Subject: Re: pga_aggregate_target and a memory
  leak
   
Replies in line...
   
- Kirti
   
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Kirti, you're back!
   
Thanks. Found some slack time from routine DBA
  work!
   
 Must have finished the book.  :)
   
Not yet.. Its tough..

 Re the PGA problems, what was the value for
  'over allocation count' in
 v$pgastat?
   
Actually, I never bothered to look at v$pgastat.
  Should have.. and will, when we do some more
testing next week..

 Did you try increasing P_A_T to a larger
  number?
   
Yes...
   
 Oracle is supposed to grab the memory it
  needs, if available, regardless
 of
 the P_A_T setting.

 Also, did your system go in to excessive
  paging or swapping?
   
Yes, it did with a large P_A_T.
   
 I've been curious as to what the effects would
  be of having P_A_T too low.
   
I saw more disk sorts..
   
As time permits, I will play with event 10032,
  10033 trace for sorts to see what's going on..
   
 Oracle is supposed to grab whatever memory it
  needs.  I'm assuming at this
 point that doing so involves a different code
  path as it needs to alloc
 the memory.

 Don't know what the cost of that is, haven't
  tried to test it.

 It seems likely that the OS was out of memory,
  regardless of the P_A_T
 value.

No. The system has 4 GB of physical memory. Over
  2GB was free.
   
 Jared


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 Setting P_A_T to a 1GB limit with over 2GB of
  *available memory* on AIX
 4.3.3 and 9.2.0.4 caused
 ORA-4030, till we turned off hash joins. OS
  level resources (ulimit -a)
 were all set to
 'unlimited'. In a very limited testing,
  setting P_A_T to less than S_A_S
 (and S_A_R_S) worked,
 however, the disk sorts increased. Finally,
  Developers chose no hash
 joins, 1GB P_A_T and 'AUTO'
 workarea_size_policy... seems to run okay...

 - Kirti

 --- Stephane 

Re: How to get unique value using AWK?

2004-01-22 Thread Mladen Gogala
There is much improved version of awk called perl
and it has something called hashes. Code snippet would
look something like this:
my %Godot;

while (} {
 chomp;
 if (/\'([^\']+)/ {
next if  exists $Godot{$1};
$Godot{$1}=undef;
 }
}
foreach (sort keys %Godot) {
 print $_\n;
}
On 01/22/2004 11:09:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi All,

My manager wants to get all the unique wait events from the trace
file.
I tried the below but how do i get DISTICT wait event name?
Any help would be really appreciated.

$ grep -i WAIT devdb1_ora_989.trc_orig|awk '{print $3  $4   $5 
$6}'|more
nam='SQL*Net message to client'
nam='SQL*Net message from client'
nam='library cache lock' ela=
nam='SQL*Net message to client'
nam='SQL*Net message from client'
nam='SQL*Net message to client'
nam='SQL*Net message from client'
nam='SQL*Net message to client'
nam='SQL*Net message from client'
nam='SQL*Net message to client'
nam='SQL*Net message from client'
nam='SQL*Net message to client'
nam='SQL*Net message from client'
nam='SQL*Net message to client'
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Re: Automatic or Uniform allocation

2004-01-22 Thread Jonathan Lewis

I think
http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/08_lmt.doc
is pretty good, but I'm biased.

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 With uniform extents, you eliminate tablespace fragmentation, in addition
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RE: How to get unique value using AWK?

2004-01-22 Thread Ed
On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 10:34, Simpson, Ken wrote:

 How about piping it through uniq? 

uniq normally assumes the input is sorted.  See my other response.

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RE: ADMIN PLZ REPLY - FW: !!Please Read - Oracle-L moving!!

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Re: any over head with DBMS_STATS.ALTER_DATABASE_TABLE_MONITORING

2004-01-22 Thread Jonathan Lewis

The number of rows affected by an SQL statement
is something that has been available to Oracle for
a long time.  Monitoring just records that number in
a memory structure.

I'd guess the memory structure is a hash table, and
there are no latches protecting it (so I've heard, and
I can't see any in x$ksllt) so the memory update is
(a) rapid (b) subject to lost data.

At regular intervals (3 hours for older versions,
15 minutes for newer) smon copies the data
from memory to the mon_mod$ table.

The overhead is small.

But:
a)The results are not corrected on rollback
b)Concurrent changes to the count get lost
c)There was at least one bug relating to partitioned
   tables with large numbers of partitions reported
   on metalink some time ago.


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 Especially on high transaction tables? I dont have any numbers for
transactions/second since we are not live. Any known issues? how does the
monitoring work? Does it use an internal trigger and then use SQL to write
the data? or does the monitoring data bypass the SQL layer and get written
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RE: How to get unique value using AWK?

2004-01-22 Thread Nikhil Khimani
Try this ...

$ grep -i WAIT devdb1_ora_989.trc_orig|awk '{print $3  $4   $5  $6}'|
sort -u

Thanks,
 
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Hi All,

My manager wants to get all the unique wait events from the trace file.
I tried the below but how do i get DISTICT wait event name?

Any help would be really appreciated.

$ grep -i WAIT devdb1_ora_989.trc_orig|awk '{print $3  $4   $5 
$6}'|more
nam='SQL*Net message to client'
nam='SQL*Net message from client'
nam='library cache lock' ela=
nam='SQL*Net message to client'
nam='SQL*Net message from client'
nam='SQL*Net message to client'
nam='SQL*Net message from client'
nam='SQL*Net message to client'
nam='SQL*Net message from client'
nam='SQL*Net message to client'
nam='SQL*Net message from client'
nam='SQL*Net message to client'
nam='SQL*Net message from client'
nam='SQL*Net message to client'


Thanks
Jay

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RE: How to get unique value using AWK?

2004-01-22 Thread Bellow, Bambi
uniq is not ubiq.  If uniq doesn't do it for you, do sort -u



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 Subject: How to get unique value using AWK?
 
 
 Hi All,
 
 My manager wants to get all the unique wait events from the 
 trace file.
 I tried the below but how do i get DISTICT wait event name?
 
 Any help would be really appreciated.
 
 $ grep -i WAIT devdb1_ora_989.trc_orig|awk '{print $3  $4  
  $5  $6}'|more
 nam='SQL*Net message to client'
 nam='SQL*Net message from client'
 nam='library cache lock' ela=
 nam='SQL*Net message to client'
 nam='SQL*Net message from client'
 nam='SQL*Net message to client'
 nam='SQL*Net message from client'
 nam='SQL*Net message to client'
 nam='SQL*Net message from client'
 nam='SQL*Net message to client'
 nam='SQL*Net message from client'
 nam='SQL*Net message to client'
 nam='SQL*Net message from client'
 nam='SQL*Net message to client'
 
 
 Thanks
 Jay
 

How about piping it through uniq? 

$ grep -i WAIT devdb1_ora_989.trc_orig|awk '{print $3  $4   $5 
$6}'| uniq
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Re: What to look for in STATSPACK report

2004-01-22 Thread Joan Hsieh
Jared,

I played YAPPPACK quite often some time ago. I like it very much. But
somehow I failed to generate the gif file from the csv file as sample
shown. Can someone shade me some light on this? I tied very hard to make
the graphs from the csv file but just don't know how.

Thanks,

Joan

Jared Still wrote:
 
 You will find a utility add on for statspack at Mogens company site,
 www.miracleas.dk.  It is called YAPPPACK.
 
 You can use YAPPPACK ( notice the 3 P's, it is not a typo ) to generate
 response time graphs for your databases.
 
 There are many different numbers to look at in a statspack report, but
 for day to day monitoring, I find them fairly useless.  I mean really,
 who's gonna read all that stuff?
 
 Or spend the rest of his life writing a genetic heuristic
 artificially intelligent algorithm that is smart enough to determine
 that something is out of bounds for a particular database?
 
 Use YAPPPACK to track response times.  When response times spike
 abnormally, then dig into the statspack data.
 
 JMO,
 
 Jared
 
 On Sun, 2004-01-18 at 23:54, Mogens Nørgaard wrote:
  Hi Helmut,
 
  There are so many opinions about this that it's hard to point at one
  specific document or recommendation. If anything, start with stuff
  written by Graham Wood (who has done a good deal of the work on it),
  Bjorn Engsig (ditto), or such guys. Also, Tom Kyte has something about
  it in his new book, so go look on asktom.oracle.com for his opinions
  about it.
 
  If you hope to find threshold numbers for certain values, etc then
  someone would have automated it a lng time ago. There can be two
  reasons for this not having happened: It depends on the installation,
  situation, etc. - or a lot of system-level measurements are in reality
  useless. That's pretty much my opinion, but thankfully a lot of much
  smarter people disagree with me.
 
  Best regards,
 
  Mogens
 
  Daiminger, Helmut wrote:
 
  Hi!
  
  We want to introduce a performance monitoring policy here. We are using the
  STATSPACK utility.
  
  What are sections in statspack reports to look for? What are threshold
  numbers for these values?
  
  Does anybody have any power points or papers about it?
  
  This is 9.2 on HP-UX.
  
  Thanks,
  Helmut
  
  
  
  
 
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RE: How to get unique value using AWK?

2004-01-22 Thread Kirtikumar Deshpande
Why not process the trace file with 9i tkprof? 
It will nicely summarize the wait times for those events. 
After seeing those unique wait events, your boss may ask for the wait times next!!  Be 
proactive
:) 

- Kirti 



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  Subject: How to get unique value using AWK?
  
  
  Hi All,
  
  My manager wants to get all the unique wait events from the 
  trace file.
  I tried the below but how do i get DISTICT wait event name?
  
  Any help would be really appreciated.
  
  $ grep -i WAIT devdb1_ora_989.trc_orig|awk '{print $3  $4  
   $5  $6}'|more
  nam='SQL*Net message to client'
  nam='SQL*Net message from client'
  nam='library cache lock' ela=
  nam='SQL*Net message to client'
  nam='SQL*Net message from client'
  nam='SQL*Net message to client'
  nam='SQL*Net message from client'
  nam='SQL*Net message to client'
  nam='SQL*Net message from client'
  nam='SQL*Net message to client'
  nam='SQL*Net message from client'
  nam='SQL*Net message to client'
  nam='SQL*Net message from client'
  nam='SQL*Net message to client'
  
  
  Thanks
  Jay
  
 
 How about piping it through uniq? 
 
 $ grep -i WAIT devdb1_ora_989.trc_orig|awk '{print $3  $4   $5 
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Re: any over head with DBMS_STATS.ALTER_DATABASE_TABLE_MONITORING

2004-01-22 Thread Barbara Baker
Too bad Steve Adams' site is not available, cuz that's
the place to be.

He says it better than I can, so I've appended a bit
of info from him.  I'd suggest getting to Steve's site
as soon as it's up.

We have monitoring enabled on our 9.2.0.4 database,
but it's not currently heavily used.  But so far, it's
been great.

From Steve Adam's July 2000 newsletter
(http://www.ixora.com.au/newsletter/2000_07.htm, line
spacing below is mine): 
Despite the potential for improved statistics
gathering, many DBAs have not yet adopted modification
monitoring. One of the concerns that people have is
that the monitoring might have a significant
performance overhead. In fact, this is not the case.
The modification counts are maintained in an efficient
hash table is the SGA, and are updated without the
protection of a latch (although the structure of the
hash table itself is protected by the hash table
modification latch). Even in heavy OLTP environments,
the cost of maintaining the modification counts is
likely to be less than 1% of additional CPU usage.
However, because of the latch-free nature of the
feature, the modification counts are not guaranteed to
be accurate. Another source of potential inaccuracy is
that if a transaction is rolled back, its changes to
the modification counts are not rolled back as well.
These inaccuracies have been allowed by Oracle to keep
the performance overhead of this feature minimal.
Therefore, you can use modification monitoring with
confidence that it will not affect performance
significantly, while giving you a very helpful
indication of which tables may have stale statistics.
 




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 SQL to write the data? or does the monitoring data
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Re: How to get unique value using AWK?

2004-01-22 Thread Mladen Gogala
On 01/22/2004 12:04:35 PM, Bellow, Bambi wrote:
uniq is not ubiq.  If uniq doesn't do it for you, do sort -u
Why would you things that way when you can do them in perl?
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Sql Tuning Thoughts?

2004-01-22 Thread Tracy Rahmlow

This statement is from a batch program within a pl/sql procedure. (Also, I have many similar ones within the process) The policy table has approximately 6.2 million rows. The procedure is to incrementally(daily) build an extract table from multiple tables. The extract table is then used for reporting purposes. The statement performs well per policy, however it is being executed 43,000+ times. Is there a design option available to me to reduce the number of executions and be more scaleable?  I am considering the creation of an index to incorporate both the policy_number and the pol_eff_date hopefully eliminating the table access. 

We are currently on 8.1.7.


***


SELECT MIN(P.POL_EFF_DATE)  
FROM
PHXADM.POLICY P WHERE P.POLICY_NUMBER = :b1


call   countcpu  elapseddisk   query  currentrows
--- --  -- -- -- -- --
Parse1   0.000.01 0 0 0  0
Execute 43814   1.951.57 0 0 0  0
Fetch  43814   55.88   599.11   408248   568098 043814
--- --  -- -- -- -- --
total  87629   57.83   600.69   408248   568098 043814

Misses in library cache during parse: 1
Optimizer goal: CHOOSE
Parsing user id: 547 (RPTADM)  (recursive depth: 1)

Rows   Execution Plan
--- ---
   0 SELECT STATEMENT  GOAL: CHOOSE
   0  SORT (AGGREGATE)
   0  TABLE ACCESS  GOAL: ANALYZED (BY INDEX ROWID) OF 'POLICY'
   0   INDEX  GOAL: ANALYZED (RANGE SCAN) OF 'POLICY_PK' (UNIQUE)
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Re: How to get unique value using AWK?

2004-01-22 Thread Ed

On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 10:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 My manager wants to get all the unique wait events from the trace file.
 I tried the below but how do i get DISTICT wait event name?
 
 Any help would be really appreciated.
 

grep -i WAIT devdb1_ora_989.trc_orig|awk '{print $3  $4   $5  $6}'
| sort | uniq -c

Or something similar should work.


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Re: How to get unique value using AWK?

2004-01-22 Thread dhill
Jay -

Try:

$ grep -i WAIT devdb1_ora_989.trc_orig|awk '{print $3  $4   $5  $6}' |
sort | uniq | more

HTH,
Dave


 Hi All,

 My manager wants to get all the unique wait events from the trace file.
 I tried the below but how do i get DISTICT wait event name?

 Any help would be really appreciated.

 $ grep -i WAIT devdb1_ora_989.trc_orig|awk '{print $3  $4   $5 
$6}'|more
 nam='SQL*Net message to client'
 nam='SQL*Net message from client'
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RE: How to get unique value using AWK?

2004-01-22 Thread Bellow, Bambi
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On 01/22/2004 12:04:35 PM, Bellow, Bambi wrote:
 uniq is not ubiq.  If uniq doesn't do it for you, do sort -u

Why would you things that way when you can do them in perl?
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RE: Sql Tuning Thoughts?

2004-01-22 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra



it depends on how the code is written ... maybe it is doing row 
operations ... care to show the code (at-least pseudo code) 
??

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  Sql Tuning Thoughts?This statement 
  is from a batch program within a pl/sql procedure. (Also, I have many similar 
  ones within the process) The policy table has approximately 6.2 million 
  rows. The procedure is to incrementally(daily) build an extract table 
  from multiple tables. The extract table is then used for reporting 
  purposes. The statement performs well per policy, however it is being executed 
  43,000+ times. Is there a design option available to me to reduce the 
  number of executions and be more scaleable?  I am considering the 
  creation of an index to incorporate both the policy_number and the 
  pol_eff_date hopefully eliminating the table access.  
  We are currently on 8.1.7. 
  *** 
  SELECT MIN(P.POL_EFF_DATE)  
  FROM PHXADM.POLICY P WHERE P.POLICY_NUMBER = :b1 
  call   countcpu 
   elapseddisk   query 
   currentrows --- --  -- -- -- 
  -- -- Parse  
1   0.000.01 
  0 0  
 0  0 
  Execute 43814   1.95  
1.57 0
   0 0 
   0 Fetch  43814  
   55.88   599.11   408248   568098 
  043814 
  --- --  -- -- 
  -- -- -- total 
   87629   57.83   600.69   
  408248   568098 0   
   43814 Misses in library cache 
  during parse: 1 Optimizer goal: 
  CHOOSE Parsing user id: 547 (RPTADM) 
   (recursive depth: 1) Rows  
   Execution Plan --- 
  --- 
 0 SELECT STATEMENT  
  GOAL: CHOOSE0  
  SORT (AGGREGATE)0 
   TABLE ACCESS  GOAL: ANALYZED (BY INDEX ROWID) OF 
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Re: Sql Tuning Thoughts?

2004-01-22 Thread Mladen Gogala
Comments in line.
On 01/22/2004 12:24:26 PM, Tracy Rahmlow wrote:
This statement is from a batch program within a pl/sql procedure.
(Also, I
have many similar ones within the process)  The policy table has
approximately 6.2 million rows.  The procedure is to
incrementally(daily)
build an extract table from multiple tables.  The extract table is
then
used for reporting purposes. The statement performs well per policy,
however it is being executed 43,000+ times.  Is there a design option
available to me to reduce the number of executions and be more
scaleable?
ALTER DATABSE ENABLE OPTIMAL [DW|OLTP] DESIGN; statement will work
in Oracle 18e (E comes from expensive). Until then, I'd try  
materialized views. What you are trying to do is to build one table
based on selecting records from several others. If you reformulate
the previous sentence, you'll get the definition of a MV.


 I am considering the creation of an index to incorporate both the
policy_number and the pol_eff_date hopefully eliminating the table
access.
We are currently on 8.1.7.

***

SELECT MIN(P.POL_EFF_DATE)
FROM
 PHXADM.POLICY P  WHERE P.POLICY_NUMBER = :b1
call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent
rows
--- --   -- -- -- --
--
Parse1  0.00   0.01  0  0  0
  0
Execute  43814  1.95   1.57  0  0  0
  0
Fetch43814 55.88 599.11 408248 568098  0
43814
--- --   -- -- -- --
--
total87629 57.83 600.69 408248 568098  0
43814
Misses in library cache during parse: 1
Optimizer goal: CHOOSE
Parsing user id: 547  (RPTADM)   (recursive depth: 1)
Rows Execution Plan
---  ---
  0  SELECT STATEMENT   GOAL: CHOOSE
  0   SORT (AGGREGATE)
  0TABLE ACCESS   GOAL: ANALYZED (BY INDEX ROWID) OF 'POLICY'
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Re: RE: How to get unique value using AWK?[CLOSED]

2004-01-22 Thread jaysingh1
Thanks Kirti and everyone who responded.
This forum is really great.

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Date: Thursday, January 22, 2004 12:14 pm

 Why not process the trace file with 9i tkprof? 
 It will nicely summarize the wait times for those events. 
 After seeing those unique wait events, your boss may ask for the 
 wait times next!!  Be proactive
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   Hi All,
   
   My manager wants to get all the unique wait events from the 
   trace file.
   I tried the below but how do i get DISTICT wait event name?
   
   Any help would be really appreciated.
   
   $ grep -i WAIT devdb1_ora_989.trc_orig|awk '{print $3  $4  
$5  $6}'|more
   nam='SQL*Net message to client'
   nam='SQL*Net message from client'
   nam='library cache lock' ela=
   nam='SQL*Net message to client'
   nam='SQL*Net message from client'
   nam='SQL*Net message to client'
   nam='SQL*Net message from client'
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  How about piping it through uniq? 
  
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Re: Sql Tuning Thoughts?

2004-01-22 Thread Justin Cave


Since you're doing an aggregate function, you may want to investigate
using materialized views here. Since, I'm assuming, policy
effective dates aren't something that changes on a minute-to-minute
basis, you could set up a materialized view that refreshed every night
and would answer this question in nothing flat. 
Justin Cave
At 10:24 AM 1/22/2004, Tracy Rahmlow wrote:
This statement is from a batch
program within a pl/sql procedure. (Also, I have many similar ones within
the process) The policy table has approximately 6.2 million
rows. The procedure is to incrementally(daily) build an extract
table from multiple tables. The extract table is then used for
reporting purposes. The statement performs well per policy, however it is
being executed 43,000+ times. Is there a design option available to
me to reduce the number of executions and be more
scaleable? I am considering the creation of an index to
incorporate both the policy_number and the pol_eff_date hopefully
eliminating the table access.  
We are currently on 8.1.7. 

***


SELECT MIN(P.POL_EFF_DATE) 
FROM 
PHXADM.POLICY P WHERE P.POLICY_NUMBER = :b1 

call count cpu elapsed disk query current rows 
--- --  -- -- -- -- -- 
Parse 1 0.00 0.01 0 0 0 0 
Execute 43814 1.95 1.57 0 0 0 0 
Fetch 43814 55.88 599.11 408248 568098 0 43814 
--- --  -- -- -- -- -- 
total 87629 57.83 600.69 408248 568098 0 43814 
Misses in library cache during parse: 1 
Optimizer goal: CHOOSE 
Parsing user id: 547 (RPTADM) (recursive depth: 1) 
Rows Execution Plan 
--- --- 
 0 SELECT STATEMENT GOAL: CHOOSE 
 0 SORT (AGGREGATE) 
 0 TABLE ACCESS GOAL: ANALYZED (BY INDEX ROWID) OF 'POLICY' 
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RE: How to find the last execution time of a Procedure.

2004-01-22 Thread Prasada . Gunda

Thanks for input Raj.

I was also thinking on the same lines (Querying v$views periodically and
store it in some metadata table) if there is no easier way to figure out
from DBA_ views.

As far as changing the production code, as you know,  It has to go thru the
dev/test databases first and then go thru the release process to implement
into the production.  It is painful process.

I will use x$kglob instead of changing production code and all that release
stuff.  Thanks for your help, Raj.

Best Regards,
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not easily, but you could probably scan through x$kglob (frequently) and
see if the name exists ... if it is, it means it was loaded for execution.

Another solution might be to modify old code and have them add a row in a
separate table using autonomous transaction to indicate they got executed.
Then wait for couple of months and it will give you some good idea.

Of course people who know more than I do will have better solutions.
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Hi All,

Is there anyway to find out from data dictionary views when was a database
procedure/function last executed. Would like know the solution for  8i and
9i databases.  We have some older code in the databases and do not know if
any application is using it or not.

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Re: Automatic or Uniform allocation

2004-01-22 Thread Barbara Baker
Jonathan:
I'd go a bit further than that.  Your article is
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RE: How to get unique value using AWK?

2004-01-22 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Reminder to post to freelists.org per Jared - I'm crossposting this reply.

Jay
   Pipe your output to sort, then uniq.

grep -i WAIT devdb1_ora_989.trc_orig|awk '{print $3  $4   $5 
$6}'|sort|uniq


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Hi All,

My manager wants to get all the unique wait events from the trace file.
I tried the below but how do i get DISTICT wait event name?

Any help would be really appreciated.

$ grep -i WAIT devdb1_ora_989.trc_orig|awk '{print $3  $4   $5 
$6}'|more
nam='SQL*Net message to client'
nam='SQL*Net message from client'
nam='library cache lock' ela=
nam='SQL*Net message to client'
nam='SQL*Net message from client'
nam='SQL*Net message to client'
nam='SQL*Net message from client'
nam='SQL*Net message to client'
nam='SQL*Net message from client'
nam='SQL*Net message to client'
nam='SQL*Net message from client'
nam='SQL*Net message to client'
nam='SQL*Net message from client'
nam='SQL*Net message to client'


Thanks
Jay

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RE: How to find the last execution time of a Procedure.

2004-01-22 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
But you better check with experts as my knowledge of x$ is feather-weight ... also 
there is a column on x$kglob called kglhdexc ... to me it seems the execution count (I 
feel like Mr. Monk  already). so if execution count is  0 then you can say that it 
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Thanks for input Raj.

I was also thinking on the same lines (Querying v$views periodically and
store it in some metadata table) if there is no easier way to figure out
from DBA_ views.

As far as changing the production code, as you know,  It has to go thru the
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Re: Automatic or Uniform allocation

2004-01-22 Thread Ron Rogers
Johnathan,
 Very interesting article. I especially like the parts where it is not
our fault it is designed that way. I agree that with proper thought and
trial, a lot of perceived performance issues can be eliminated or
minimized.
I could really use the compress option, I guess that I will have to
upgrade to 9i. Darn, I only have 1 year under my belt on 8i and already
10g is in the pipe.
Thanks for the article.
Ron

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I think
http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/08_lmt.doc 
is pretty good, but I'm biased.

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 Brad - I agree with Ron. I think it is critical to read How to quit
 defragmenting . . . before making the change to ensure you clearly
 understand the concepts and receive the benefits. If someone on the
list
 knows of a more recent paper, please post it.

 With uniform extents, you eliminate tablespace fragmentation, in
addition
to
 Ron's points.


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RE: What to look for in STATSPACK report

2004-01-22 Thread Chris Stephens
I had this same problem.  It ended up being that when I opened the file in
exel, all the columns from the csv went into one excel column and for some
reason it wasn't apparentor something like that.  .now if I could
only remember what it was I did to fix it. hmmm.

..i think it was some searching and replacing or something.

..that should get you started though.

...sorry for the not so helpful post, but maybe this will trigger
something.

chris

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Jared,

I played YAPPPACK quite often some time ago. I like it very much. But
somehow I failed to generate the gif file from the csv file as sample
shown. Can someone shade me some light on this? I tied very hard to make
the graphs from the csv file but just don't know how.

Thanks,

Joan

Jared Still wrote:
 
 You will find a utility add on for statspack at Mogens company site,
 www.miracleas.dk.  It is called YAPPPACK.
 
 You can use YAPPPACK ( notice the 3 P's, it is not a typo ) to generate
 response time graphs for your databases.
 
 There are many different numbers to look at in a statspack report, but
 for day to day monitoring, I find them fairly useless.  I mean really,
 who's gonna read all that stuff?
 
 Or spend the rest of his life writing a genetic heuristic
 artificially intelligent algorithm that is smart enough to determine
 that something is out of bounds for a particular database?
 
 Use YAPPPACK to track response times.  When response times spike
 abnormally, then dig into the statspack data.
 
 JMO,
 
 Jared
 
 On Sun, 2004-01-18 at 23:54, Mogens Nørgaard wrote:
  Hi Helmut,
 
  There are so many opinions about this that it's hard to point at one
  specific document or recommendation. If anything, start with stuff
  written by Graham Wood (who has done a good deal of the work on it),
  Bjorn Engsig (ditto), or such guys. Also, Tom Kyte has something about
  it in his new book, so go look on asktom.oracle.com for his opinions
  about it.
 
  If you hope to find threshold numbers for certain values, etc then
  someone would have automated it a lng time ago. There can be two
  reasons for this not having happened: It depends on the installation,
  situation, etc. - or a lot of system-level measurements are in reality
  useless. That's pretty much my opinion, but thankfully a lot of much
  smarter people disagree with me.
 
  Best regards,
 
  Mogens
 
  Daiminger, Helmut wrote:
 
  Hi!
  
  We want to introduce a performance monitoring policy here. We are using
the
  STATSPACK utility.
  
  What are sections in statspack reports to look for? What are threshold
  numbers for these values?
  
  Does anybody have any power points or papers about it?
  
  This is 9.2 on HP-UX.
  
  Thanks,
  Helmut
  
  
  
  
 
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RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

2004-01-22 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
It's working for me, but slowly. I tried to do it through the webpage and got the 
first confirmation e-mail back (containing a code to enter on the webpage.) Then I 
subscribed to the new list, got a second e-mail back to confirm my subscription, and 
replied to that. I'm sure more things will show up shortly.

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Re: RE: Has anyone done any scalability work on dbms_lock?

2004-01-22 Thread Jonathan Lewis

I came across a very nice example a while ago
where there were 4 concurrent sessions feeding
data into a holding table, and one session consuming
from the table.

The rules said that the consumer could not run
while the producers were loading the table, but
multiple producers were allowed to run.

It was easy to implement using dbms_lock -
the producers ran a pl/sql loop that requested
a share lock (mode 4) on a named resource, and
committed at the end of each loop;  the consumer
also ran a loop but requested an exclusive lock
(mode 6) on the same named resource and committed
at the end of each loop.

Both programs had a little sleep time built in
to the loops after the commit.

When the consumer got its lock, the producers
waited.  When the consumer committed, the
producers got in, and the the consumer queued
on them when it next asked for its lock.

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 Well, I don't know about anyone else, but I make use of it to synchronize
data upload programs for our testers.  Can't have two instances of the
upload program processing the same tester, they'd duplicate data.  Anyhow,
we normally run 4 instances of this program  the dbms_lock package works
absolutely fantastically.

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Re: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

2004-01-22 Thread Jared . Still

Well, I did check with them first to ensure the volume would be OK.

It is running a bit slow. I'm not sure if it is just freelists.org, or a general
internet slowdown.

Sending mail from work to home it seems that it is taking much too long.

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RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

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RE: What to look for in STATSPACK report

2004-01-22 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Chris - In Excel, click on Data -- Text to Columns.

Dennis Williams
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I had this same problem.  It ended up being that when I opened the file in
exel, all the columns from the csv went into one excel column and for some
reason it wasn't apparentor something like that.  .now if I could
only remember what it was I did to fix it. hmmm.

.i think it was some searching and replacing or something.

.that should get you started though.

..sorry for the not so helpful post, but maybe this will trigger
something.

chris

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Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 11:19 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Jared,

I played YAPPPACK quite often some time ago. I like it very much. But
somehow I failed to generate the gif file from the csv file as sample
shown. Can someone shade me some light on this? I tied very hard to make
the graphs from the csv file but just don't know how.

Thanks,

Joan

Jared Still wrote:
 
 You will find a utility add on for statspack at Mogens company site,
 www.miracleas.dk.  It is called YAPPPACK.
 
 You can use YAPPPACK ( notice the 3 P's, it is not a typo ) to generate
 response time graphs for your databases.
 
 There are many different numbers to look at in a statspack report, but
 for day to day monitoring, I find them fairly useless.  I mean really,
 who's gonna read all that stuff?
 
 Or spend the rest of his life writing a genetic heuristic
 artificially intelligent algorithm that is smart enough to determine
 that something is out of bounds for a particular database?
 
 Use YAPPPACK to track response times.  When response times spike
 abnormally, then dig into the statspack data.
 
 JMO,
 
 Jared
 
 On Sun, 2004-01-18 at 23:54, Mogens Nørgaard wrote:
  Hi Helmut,
 
  There are so many opinions about this that it's hard to point at one
  specific document or recommendation. If anything, start with stuff
  written by Graham Wood (who has done a good deal of the work on it),
  Bjorn Engsig (ditto), or such guys. Also, Tom Kyte has something about
  it in his new book, so go look on asktom.oracle.com for his opinions
  about it.
 
  If you hope to find threshold numbers for certain values, etc then
  someone would have automated it a lng time ago. There can be two
  reasons for this not having happened: It depends on the installation,
  situation, etc. - or a lot of system-level measurements are in reality
  useless. That's pretty much my opinion, but thankfully a lot of much
  smarter people disagree with me.
 
  Best regards,
 
  Mogens
 
  Daiminger, Helmut wrote:
 
  Hi!
  
  We want to introduce a performance monitoring policy here. We are using
the
  STATSPACK utility.
  
  What are sections in statspack reports to look for? What are threshold
  numbers for these values?
  
  Does anybody have any power points or papers about it?
  
  This is 9.2 on HP-UX.
  
  Thanks,
  Helmut
  
  
  
  
 
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RE: Re: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak

2004-01-22 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Sandra - Are you on 9.2.0.4?

Dennis Williams
DBA
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I have had a problem on my 9i database for three weeks.  I am getting a
ORA-7445 error which is pointing to some memory problems.  It is occurring
during the CTX_DOC.FILTER process.  We are running this process from a
custom PL/SQL package that is being initiated from an Oracle Job.  However,
we still have the problem when we run it from a crontab job.  I currently
have a 21 page TAR concerning this problem.

Sandra Arnold
Principal DBA
NCI Information Systems
175 Oak Ridge Turnpike
Oak Ridge, TN 37830

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Im not sure I see what the size of the PAT has to do with a memory leak. On
metalink there is a laundry list of PGA things that were supposedly causing
memory leaks prior to 9.2.0.4. Are you certain its PAT causing it? Maybe
they didnt fix all the memory leaks with the PGA in general?

has anyone had any production issues with pga memory leaks? There are a
series of notes on metalink about this.
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 --- Kirtikumar Deshpande
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I think it depends on your applications.
 
  In DSS type environments we are still stuggling to
  figure out if P_A_T is helping or not. Initial
  tests are not in P_A_T's favor.
 
  But in another Application, that is 80% OLTP, P_A_T
  was the only choice to avoid swapping. This
  9.2.0.3 database had the S_A_S set to 2MB (S_A_R_S =
  1MB)at the instance level. It has over 600
  persistent users. No MTS in use.
 
  - Kirti

 Kirti,

 I saw in a 9.2.0.4 database just this evening, much to
 my surprise, an ORA-00600 in the alert log with - you
 guessed it - [723], [10332], [10332], [memory leak].

 The database was setup in a less than optimal fashion
 as far as memory allocations go. The initial
 pga_aggregate_target was only 64M (server had 3 GB of
 memory and only one instance up) so I'm calling this
 one a non-sensical configuration error for the moment,
 as there is no need to size a PGA so small. If you're
 running with that small a memory footprint, don't use
 pga_aggregate_target.

 After resetting the parameter to 256M and cycling the
 instance, no ORA-00600's were recorded at instance
 shutdown. That was not really a good test though, will
 have to see tomorrow evening after the day's load has
 hit it.

 Paul

 this was on w2k server sp3, 9.2.0.4 std ed


From: Kirtikumar Deshpande
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  leak
   
Replies in line...
   
- Kirti
   
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Kirti, you're back!
   
Thanks. Found some slack time from routine DBA
  work!
   
 Must have finished the book.  :)
   
Not yet.. Its tough..

 Re the PGA problems, what was the value for
  'over allocation count' in
 v$pgastat?
   
Actually, I never bothered to look at v$pgastat.
  Should have.. and will, when we do some more
testing next week..

 Did you try increasing P_A_T to a larger
  number?
   
Yes...
   
 Oracle is supposed to grab the memory it
  needs, if available, regardless
 of
 the P_A_T setting.

 Also, did your system go in to excessive
  paging or swapping?
   
Yes, it did with a large P_A_T.
   
 I've been curious as to what the effects would
  be of having P_A_T too low.
   
I saw more disk sorts..
   
As time permits, I will play with event 10032,
  10033 trace for sorts to see what's going on..
   
 Oracle is supposed to grab whatever memory it
  needs.  I'm assuming at this
 point that doing so involves a different code
  path as it needs to alloc
 the memory.

 Don't know what the cost of that is, haven't
  tried to test it.

 It seems likely that the OS was out of memory,
  regardless of the P_A_T
 value.

No. The system has 4 GB of physical memory. Over
  2GB was free.
   
 Jared


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 Setting P_A_T to a 1GB limit with over 2GB of
  *available memory* on AIX
 4.3.3 and 9.2.0.4 caused
 ORA-4030, till we turned off hash joins. OS
  level resources (ulimit -a)
 were all set to
 'unlimited'. In a very limited testing,
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 (and S_A_R_S) worked,
 

RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

2004-01-22 Thread Jared . Still

Give it a little time, you'll get it.

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RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

2004-01-22 Thread Johnston, Tim



I was trying to sign up this morning... The response 
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RE: How to find the last execution time of a Procedure.

2004-01-22 Thread Prasada . Gunda

Thanks Raj. I have confidence on you and hope we will meet in next CTOUG
meeting.

Best Regards,
Prasad
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But you better check with experts as my knowledge of x$ is feather-weight
.. also there is a column on x$kglob called kglhdexc ... to me it seems
the execution count (I feel like Mr. Monk  already). so if execution
count is  0 then you can say that it actually got executed.

But if this doesn't work, in the next CTOUG meeting, I'll try to hide away
from you.

YMMV
Raj


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Thanks for input Raj.

I was also thinking on the same lines (Querying v$views periodically and
store it in some metadata table) if there is no easier way to figure out
from DBA_ views.

As far as changing the production code, as you know,  It has to go thru the
dev/test databases first and then go thru the release process to implement
into the production.  It is painful process.

I will use x$kglob instead of changing production code and all that release
stuff.  Thanks for your help, Raj.

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RE: Automatic or Uniform allocation

2004-01-22 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Jonathan 
   Thanks so much for posting this excellent article. Very high quality as
all your writing is. This was my devious purpose in replying, in hopes
something like this was out there. 

Dennis Williams
DBA
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I think
http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/08_lmt.doc
is pretty good, but I'm biased.

Regards

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  who can answer the questions, but the
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 Brad - I agree with Ron. I think it is critical to read How to quit
 defragmenting . . . before making the change to ensure you clearly
 understand the concepts and receive the benefits. If someone on the list
 knows of a more recent paper, please post it.

 With uniform extents, you eliminate tablespace fragmentation, in addition
to
 Ron's points.


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RE: Re: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak

2004-01-22 Thread Arnold, Sandra
Yes.  On Solaris 5.8.

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Sandra - Are you on 9.2.0.4?

Dennis Williams
DBA
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Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 10:44 AM
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I have had a problem on my 9i database for three weeks.  I am getting a
ORA-7445 error which is pointing to some memory problems.  It is occurring
during the CTX_DOC.FILTER process.  We are running this process from a
custom PL/SQL package that is being initiated from an Oracle Job.  However,
we still have the problem when we run it from a crontab job.  I currently
have a 21 page TAR concerning this problem.

Sandra Arnold
Principal DBA
NCI Information Systems
175 Oak Ridge Turnpike
Oak Ridge, TN 37830

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Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 5:05 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Im not sure I see what the size of the PAT has to do with a memory leak. On
metalink there is a laundry list of PGA things that were supposedly causing
memory leaks prior to 9.2.0.4. Are you certain its PAT causing it? Maybe
they didnt fix all the memory leaks with the PGA in general?

has anyone had any production issues with pga memory leaks? There are a
series of notes on metalink about this.
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 11:04 PM


 --- Kirtikumar Deshpande
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I think it depends on your applications.
 
  In DSS type environments we are still stuggling to
  figure out if P_A_T is helping or not. Initial
  tests are not in P_A_T's favor.
 
  But in another Application, that is 80% OLTP, P_A_T
  was the only choice to avoid swapping. This
  9.2.0.3 database had the S_A_S set to 2MB (S_A_R_S =
  1MB)at the instance level. It has over 600
  persistent users. No MTS in use.
 
  - Kirti

 Kirti,

 I saw in a 9.2.0.4 database just this evening, much to
 my surprise, an ORA-00600 in the alert log with - you
 guessed it - [723], [10332], [10332], [memory leak].

 The database was setup in a less than optimal fashion
 as far as memory allocations go. The initial
 pga_aggregate_target was only 64M (server had 3 GB of
 memory and only one instance up) so I'm calling this
 one a non-sensical configuration error for the moment,
 as there is no need to size a PGA so small. If you're
 running with that small a memory footprint, don't use
 pga_aggregate_target.

 After resetting the parameter to 256M and cycling the
 instance, no ORA-00600's were recorded at instance
 shutdown. That was not really a good test though, will
 have to see tomorrow evening after the day's load has
 hit it.

 Paul

 this was on w2k server sp3, 9.2.0.4 std ed


From: Kirtikumar Deshpande
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2004/01/21 Wed PM 02:44:31 EST
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: pga_aggregate_target and a memory
  leak
   
Replies in line...
   
- Kirti
   
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Kirti, you're back!
   
Thanks. Found some slack time from routine DBA
  work!
   
 Must have finished the book.  :)
   
Not yet.. Its tough..

 Re the PGA problems, what was the value for
  'over allocation count' in
 v$pgastat?
   
Actually, I never bothered to look at v$pgastat.
  Should have.. and will, when we do some more
testing next week..

 Did you try increasing P_A_T to a larger
  number?
   
Yes...
   
 Oracle is supposed to grab the memory it
  needs, if available, regardless
 of
 the P_A_T setting.

 Also, did your system go in to excessive
  paging or swapping?
   
Yes, it did with a large P_A_T.
   
 I've been curious as to what the effects would
  be of having P_A_T too low.
   
I saw more disk sorts..
   
As time permits, I will play with event 10032,
  10033 trace for sorts to see what's going on..
   
 Oracle is supposed to grab whatever memory it
  needs.  I'm assuming at this
 point that doing so involves a different code
  path as it needs to alloc
 the memory.

 Don't know what the cost of that is, haven't
  tried to test it.

 It seems likely that the OS was out of memory,
  regardless of the P_A_T
 value.

No. The system has 4 GB of physical memory. Over
  2GB was free.
   
 Jared


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  pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak


 Setting P_A_T to a 1GB limit with over 2GB of
  *available memory* on AIX
 4.3.3 and 9.2.0.4 caused
 ORA-4030, till we turned off hash joins. OS
  level resources (ulimit -a)
  

Freelists about 2 hours behind

2004-01-22 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Based on a sample of one message, it looks like Freelists may be running
about 2 hours behind.

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Startup Migrate

2004-01-22 Thread Joe LaCascio

I'm looking at the notes to apply patch 4 to Oracle 9.2.0.3.  After 
installing the products.jar file, one of the steps is to run

startup migrate

then run catpatch.sql

I've looked on technet as well as the documentation CD and can not find
any info on startup migrate.

Can someone point me in a direction to find out about this?  All I can 
find is that it's new in 9.2.  

Thanks,
Joe

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Re: How to get unique value using AWK?

2004-01-22 Thread Jared . Still

And please notice that no sorting of the input is required, unlike awk|sort|uniq

Jared








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Subject:Re: How to get unique value using AWK?


There is much improved version of awk called perl
and it has something called hashes. Code snippet would
look something like this:

my %Godot;

while (} {
 chomp;
 if (/\'([^\']+)/ {
   next if exists $Godot{$1};
   $Godot{$1}=undef;
 }
}
foreach (sort keys %Godot) {
 print $_\n;
}


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 Hi All,
 
 My manager wants to get all the unique wait events from the trace
 file.
 I tried the below but how do i get DISTICT wait event name?
 
 Any help would be really appreciated.
 
 $ grep -i WAIT devdb1_ora_989.trc_orig|awk '{print $3  $4   $5 
 $6}'|more
 nam='SQL*Net message to client'
 nam='SQL*Net message from client'
 nam='library cache lock' ela=
 nam='SQL*Net message to client'
 nam='SQL*Net message from client'
 nam='SQL*Net message to client'
 nam='SQL*Net message from client'
 nam='SQL*Net message to client'
 nam='SQL*Net message from client'
 nam='SQL*Net message to client'
 nam='SQL*Net message from client'
 nam='SQL*Net message to client'
 nam='SQL*Net message from client'
 nam='SQL*Net message to client'
 
 
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 Jay
 
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RE: !!Please Read - Oracle-L is moving!!

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RE: Startup Migrate

2004-01-22 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Joe - I just know that it works. I used it to upgrade about 20 instances.

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I'm looking at the notes to apply patch 4 to Oracle 9.2.0.3.  After 
installing the products.jar file, one of the steps is to run

startup migrate

then run catpatch.sql

I've looked on technet as well as the documentation CD and can not find
any info on startup migrate.

Can someone point me in a direction to find out about this?  All I can 
find is that it's new in 9.2.  

Thanks,
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Re: Startup Migrate

2004-01-22 Thread Ponnu

Joe,

Here's brief from metalink.. for details Check this
Doc ID: 252273.1 

STARTUP MIGRATE was introduced in 9.2 as a mechanism to be sure that most
everything that needs to be done to run an upgrade script or a patch
script is done automatically. In the past, customers were expected to
adjust certain initialization parameters prior to beginning an upgrade or
applying a a patch, but most of this is now done automatically by STARTUP
MIGRATE. When a customer starts a database in MIGRATE mode, the following
ALTER SYSTEM commands will be set automatically: 

ALTER SYSTEM ENABLE RESTRICTED SESSION;
ALTER SYSTEM SET _SYSTEM_TRIG_ENABLED=FALSE SCOPE=MEMORY;

ALTER SYSTEM SET JOB_QUEUE_PROCESSES=0 SCOPE=MEMORY; 
ALTER SYSTEM SET AQ_TM_PROCESSES=0 SCOPE=MEMORY; 
ALTER SESSION SET NLS_LENGTH_SEMANTICS=BYTE; 

Regards,
..Ponnusamy

At 01:14 PM 1/22/2004 -0800, Joe LaCascio wrote:

I'm looking at the notes to apply patch 4 to
Oracle 9.2.0.3. After 
installing the products.jar file, one of the steps is to run

startup migrate

then run catpatch.sql

I've looked on technet as well as the documentation CD and can not
find
any info on startup migrate.

Can someone point me in a direction to find out about this? All I
can 
find is that it's new in 9.2. 

Thanks,
Joe


Regards,
...Ponnu


Re: test please ignore

2004-01-22 Thread Jared . Still

oops!

wrong list, eh?  :)








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RE: Startup Migrate

2004-01-22 Thread M Rafiq
Joe,

You did not mention about platform.

I just did migration from 8.1.7.4 to 9.2.0.4 today on Windows. That upgrade 
was manul.

After connecting with database

you have to issue command

startup migrate pfile=init_SID.ora file. Please give complete/absolute path 
of this file.

However, I have no idea about patch script as we already installed oracle 
upto ver 9.2.0.4.

HTH

Regards
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I'm looking at the notes to apply patch 4 to Oracle 9.2.0.3.  After
installing the products.jar file, one of the steps is to run
startup migrate

then run catpatch.sql

I've looked on technet as well as the documentation CD and can not find
any info on startup migrate.
Can someone point me in a direction to find out about this?  All I can
find is that it's new in 9.2.
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Re: Startup Migrate

2004-01-22 Thread Charlie_Mengler

http://download-west.oracle.com/docs/cd/B10501_01/server.920/a96540/statements_15a.htm#2110144


MIGRATE


Use the MIGRATE clause only if you are upgrading from Oracle release 7.3.4
to the current release. This clause instructs Oracle to modify system
parameters dynamically as required for the upgrade. For upgrade from
releases other than 7.3.4, you can use the SQL*Plus STARTUP MIGRATE
command.


   
 
 See Also: 
 
   Oracle9i Database Migration Guide for information on the steps required to  
 
   migrate a database from one release to another  
 
   SQL*Plus User's Guide and Reference for information on the SQL*Plus STARTUP 
 
   command 
 
   
 






   

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Re: What to look for in STATSPACK report

2004-01-22 Thread Jared . Still

Here's a sample chart. These are generated every morning and available via our intranet.

http://www.cybcon.com/~jkstill/yapppack_chart.png

Hmmm...

Looks like someone is doing a lot of commits at 02:30 and 05:15.

Jared








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Jared,

I played YAPPPACK quite often some time ago. I like it very much. But
somehow I failed to generate the gif file from the csv file as sample
shown. Can someone shade me some light on this? I tied very hard to make
the graphs from the csv file but just don't know how.

Thanks,

Joan

Jared Still wrote:
 
 You will find a utility add on for statspack at Mogens company site,
 www.miracleas.dk. It is called YAPPPACK.
 
 You can use YAPPPACK ( notice the 3 P's, it is not a typo ) to generate
 response time graphs for your databases.
 
 There are many different numbers to look at in a statspack report, but
 for day to day monitoring, I find them fairly useless. I mean really,
 who's gonna read all that stuff?
 
 Or spend the rest of his life writing a genetic heuristic
 artificially intelligent algorithm that is smart enough to determine
 that something is out of bounds for a particular database?
 
 Use YAPPPACK to track response times. When response times spike
 abnormally, then dig into the statspack data.
 
 JMO,
 
 Jared
 
 On Sun, 2004-01-18 at 23:54, Mogens Nørgaard wrote:
  Hi Helmut,
 
  There are so many opinions about this that it's hard to point at one
  specific document or recommendation. If anything, start with stuff
  written by Graham Wood (who has done a good deal of the work on it),
  Bjorn Engsig (ditto), or such guys. Also, Tom Kyte has something about
  it in his new book, so go look on asktom.oracle.com for his opinions
  about it.
 
  If you hope to find threshold numbers for certain values, etc then
  someone would have automated it a lng time ago. There can be two
  reasons for this not having happened: It depends on the installation,
  situation, etc. - or a lot of system-level measurements are in reality
  useless. That's pretty much my opinion, but thankfully a lot of much
  smarter people disagree with me.
 
  Best regards,
 
  Mogens
 
  Daiminger, Helmut wrote:
 
  Hi!
  
  We want to introduce a performance monitoring policy here. We are using the
  STATSPACK utility.
  
  What are sections in statspack reports to look for? What are threshold
  numbers for these values?
  
  Does anybody have any power points or papers about it?
  
  This is 9.2 on HP-UX.
  
  Thanks,
  Helmut
  
  
  
  
 
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RE: Startup Migrate

2004-01-22 Thread Stephen Andert
Joe, 

I didn't do that many, but the 6 or so times that I have used it, it
worked fine.  

From what I read, it basically does a startup restrict, IIRC.

Have fun,
Stephen

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startup migrate

then run catpatch.sql

I've looked on technet as well as the documentation CD and can not
find
any info on startup migrate.

Can someone point me in a direction to find out about this?  All I can

find is that it's new in 9.2.  

Thanks,
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Re: What to look for in STATSPACK report

2004-01-22 Thread Jared . Still

If you're willing to go to the trouble of setting up Perl, DBI, DBD::Oracle, DBD::Chart
and its dependent libs ( graphics ), I'll send the Perl/Shell stuff I use to generate charts.

It includes some modifications to YAPPPACK.

That sound OK Mogens?

Jared








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Jared,

I played YAPPPACK quite often some time ago. I like it very much. But
somehow I failed to generate the gif file from the csv file as sample
shown. Can someone shade me some light on this? I tied very hard to make
the graphs from the csv file but just don't know how.

Thanks,

Joan

Jared Still wrote:
 
 You will find a utility add on for statspack at Mogens company site,
 www.miracleas.dk. It is called YAPPPACK.
 
 You can use YAPPPACK ( notice the 3 P's, it is not a typo ) to generate
 response time graphs for your databases.
 
 There are many different numbers to look at in a statspack report, but
 for day to day monitoring, I find them fairly useless. I mean really,
 who's gonna read all that stuff?
 
 Or spend the rest of his life writing a genetic heuristic
 artificially intelligent algorithm that is smart enough to determine
 that something is out of bounds for a particular database?
 
 Use YAPPPACK to track response times. When response times spike
 abnormally, then dig into the statspack data.
 
 JMO,
 
 Jared
 
 On Sun, 2004-01-18 at 23:54, Mogens Nørgaard wrote:
  Hi Helmut,
 
  There are so many opinions about this that it's hard to point at one
  specific document or recommendation. If anything, start with stuff
  written by Graham Wood (who has done a good deal of the work on it),
  Bjorn Engsig (ditto), or such guys. Also, Tom Kyte has something about
  it in his new book, so go look on asktom.oracle.com for his opinions
  about it.
 
  If you hope to find threshold numbers for certain values, etc then
  someone would have automated it a lng time ago. There can be two
  reasons for this not having happened: It depends on the installation,
  situation, etc. - or a lot of system-level measurements are in reality
  useless. That's pretty much my opinion, but thankfully a lot of much
  smarter people disagree with me.
 
  Best regards,
 
  Mogens
 
  Daiminger, Helmut wrote:
 
  Hi!
  
  We want to introduce a performance monitoring policy here. We are using the
  STATSPACK utility.
  
  What are sections in statspack reports to look for? What are threshold
  numbers for these values?
  
  Does anybody have any power points or papers about it?
  
  This is 9.2 on HP-UX.
  
  Thanks,
  Helmut
  
  
  
  
 
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RE: Re: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak

2004-01-22 Thread Jeroen van Sluisdam
Yes I have and still have a problem with pga memory leak
When using pl/sql tables. I'm on 9i performance and tuning course at oracle
Now and discussed this with the teacher. He went looking and found a bug
Stating that on 9i (9.2.0.2 and further) there seems to be a limit on total
pga per process of 1Gb. 

Setting pat=0 and work_area_size manual gave me a workaround for my
production problem but with a test of just a simple
Got a decent explanation today that pat=0 gives me more memory for pl/sql
Tables because there are always in pga and pat is about sort areas so
setting pat=0 gives more memory and less possibility of not having enough.

Pl/sql procedure assigning values to an array of number keeps reproducing
A pl/sql storage error also with pat=0 and wasp=manual.
I left the bug number in my notes, can get that tomorrow if somebody is
interested.

Jeroen
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Van: Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Verzonden: donderdag 22 januari 2004 11:05
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Onderwerp: Re: Re: pga_aggregate_target and a memory leak

Im not sure I see what the size of the PAT has to do with a memory leak. On
metalink there is a laundry list of PGA things that were supposedly causing
memory leaks prior to 9.2.0.4. Are you certain its PAT causing it? Maybe
they didnt fix all the memory leaks with the PGA in general?

has anyone had any production issues with pga memory leaks? There are a
series of notes on metalink about this.
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 --- Kirtikumar Deshpande
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  I think it depends on your applications.
 
  In DSS type environments we are still stuggling to
  figure out if P_A_T is helping or not. Initial
  tests are not in P_A_T's favor.
 
  But in another Application, that is 80% OLTP, P_A_T
  was the only choice to avoid swapping. This
  9.2.0.3 database had the S_A_S set to 2MB (S_A_R_S =
  1MB)at the instance level. It has over 600
  persistent users. No MTS in use.
 
  - Kirti

 Kirti,

 I saw in a 9.2.0.4 database just this evening, much to
 my surprise, an ORA-00600 in the alert log with - you
 guessed it - [723], [10332], [10332], [memory leak].

 The database was setup in a less than optimal fashion
 as far as memory allocations go. The initial
 pga_aggregate_target was only 64M (server had 3 GB of
 memory and only one instance up) so I'm calling this
 one a non-sensical configuration error for the moment,
 as there is no need to size a PGA so small. If you're
 running with that small a memory footprint, don't use
 pga_aggregate_target.

 After resetting the parameter to 256M and cycling the
 instance, no ORA-00600's were recorded at instance
 shutdown. That was not really a good test though, will
 have to see tomorrow evening after the day's load has
 hit it.

 Paul

 this was on w2k server sp3, 9.2.0.4 std ed


From: Kirtikumar Deshpande
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Date: 2004/01/21 Wed PM 02:44:31 EST
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Subject: Re: pga_aggregate_target and a memory
  leak
   
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- Kirti
   
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Kirti, you're back!
   
Thanks. Found some slack time from routine DBA
  work!
   
 Must have finished the book.  :)
   
Not yet.. Its tough..

 Re the PGA problems, what was the value for
  'over allocation count' in
 v$pgastat?
   
Actually, I never bothered to look at v$pgastat.
  Should have.. and will, when we do some more
testing next week..

 Did you try increasing P_A_T to a larger
  number?
   
Yes...
   
 Oracle is supposed to grab the memory it
  needs, if available, regardless
 of
 the P_A_T setting.

 Also, did your system go in to excessive
  paging or swapping?
   
Yes, it did with a large P_A_T.
   
 I've been curious as to what the effects would
  be of having P_A_T too low.
   
I saw more disk sorts..
   
As time permits, I will play with event 10032,
  10033 trace for sorts to see what's going on..
   
 Oracle is supposed to grab whatever memory it
  needs.  I'm assuming at this
 point that doing so involves a different code
  path as it needs to alloc
 the memory.

 Don't know what the cost of that is, haven't
  tried to test it.

 It seems likely that the OS was out of memory,
  regardless of the P_A_T
 value.

No. The system has 4 GB of physical memory. Over
  2GB was free.
   
 Jared


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