Hi
We also gave up with Oscar recently, as it did not seem worth the hassle
getting it to work with Scientific Linux (which we wanted to move onto
from
RH), and the move from a bundled distribution tar ball is a pain if your
cluster is not internet facing.
For what it may be worth; I found Rock's was easy and reliable to
configure, but too restricted in OS versions etc. Xcat was initially a
bit of a culture shock,
it seems to be intended for large installations (preferably IBM based for
console support), that said it looks very scalable, and support (paid) was
available from IBM (when I checked - and there's loads of documentation).
In the end I opted to use the latest versions of SystemImager, Ganglia, c3
tools Slurm and Munge, etc and just build it all. Usual problems with
building
Ganglia & rrdtool, but Slurm seems a definite improvement (for us) over
SGE.
Obviously it's more effort to build a cluster from basic components, but
at the end of the day you don't end up trying to fix some bug or
restriction in someone
else's code. The lack of graphics interface doesn't really bother me as
the cluster is fairly static, guess next time I'll have a good look at
Warewulf as well.
I would like keep in touch of ideas and discussions on this topic, does
anyone know of other "lists" that worth joining ?
Cheers - Mike
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From: "Nash, Stephen" <stephen.n...@mpi.com>
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Hello,
OK. So it appears that Oscar is very much dead. Does anyone know of any
similar solutions which are still active?
I have come across two that appear to still be "alive": Rocks and
Warewulf.
Does anyone know of any others? A lot of the others that I have been aware
of in the past (Oscar, Perceus, Caos, etc.) all lead to dead-ends web
links or bits
that are several years old.
Thanks in advance,
Steve Nash
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I've been playing with Clusterllab's Pacemaker et. al.
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OK. So it appears that Oscar is very much dead. Does anyone know of any
similar solutions which are still active?
I have come across two that appear to still be *alive*: Rocks and
Warewulf.
Does anyone know of any others? A lot of the others that I have been
aware
of in the past (Oscar, Perceus, Caos, etc.) all lead to dead-ends web
links or bits
that are several years old.
Thanks in advance,
Steve Nash
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From: "A. Jorge Garcia" <calcp...@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Oscar-users] Seeking OSCAR replacement (CentOS based
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Sam Whiteman <white...@ipfw.edu> wrote:
I've been playing with Clusterllab's Pacemaker et. al.
>>> "Nash, Stephen" 06/14/12 9:00 AM >>>
Hello,
OK. So it appears that Oscar is very much dead. Does anyone know of any
similar solutions which are still active?
I have come across two that appear to still be ?alive?: Rocks and
Warewulf.
Does anyone know of any others? A lot of the others that I have been aware
of in the past (Oscar, Perceus, Caos, etc.) all lead to dead-ends web
links or bits
that are several years old.
Thanks in advance,
Steve Nash
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I don't use oscar, but you may be interested in the pelicanhpc or bccd
projects?
Sincerely,
A. Jorge Garcia
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xcat (IBM participates). I have not used it myself.
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/software/xcat/index.html
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>> OK. So it appears that Oscar is very much dead. Does anyone know of any
>>
>> similar solutions which are still active?
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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 15:05:18 +0000
From: "Heller, Christopher R" <christopher.r.hel...@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [Oscar-users] Seeking OSCAR replacement (CentOS based
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It really depends on what you are using it for. I've been closely
following and contributing to Warewulf - http://warewulf.lbl.gov/trac
since early this year, and LBL really has resurrected the project. It
still isn't for the faint of heart as there are quite a few manual steps
needed to get a cluster up and running, but it seems that they are trying
to form a community to help them identify and work through the gaps and
such and help with documentation. They have a new release, version 3.2
releasing (should be within a week) that fixes all the old broken issues
with Warewulf and adds some new features. Again, it isn't nearly as simple
as ROCKS to install and deploy yet, but I feel that with enough help, this
is possible. Don't get me wrong, I like ROCKS for simple installations
(and if the hardware is older), but there are often significant delays in
supporting new RHEL/CentOS versions (which makes it difficult/impossible
most of the time to recommend ROCKS for folks buying
new hardware), plus the fact that you are tied to those distros vs
Warewulf which is a more flexible framework.
CAOS (the OS) and Perceus (from Infiscale) are also pretty much dead. Tis
a shame, as I really liked Perceus, but as it was based on Warewulf
components in the first place, I hope most of its functionality can be
reproduced (and this time in a project, like Warewulf, that has a kinder
license (BSD))
Cheers,
Christopher Heller (former OSCAR core team member representing Intel from
2006-2007)
HPC solutions engineer for the Intel Cluster Ready program
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I've been playing with Clusterllab's Pacemaker et. al.
>>> "Nash, Stephen" 06/14/12 9:00 AM >>>
Hello,
OK. So it appears that Oscar is very much dead. Does anyone know of any
similar solutions which are still active?
I have come across two that appear to still be ?alive?: Rocks and
Warewulf.
Does anyone know of any others? A lot of the others that I have been aware
of in the past (Oscar, Perceus, Caos, etc.) all lead to dead-ends web
links or bits
that are several years old.
Thanks in advance,
Steve Nash
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