[osdcmy-public] Re: Proposal Akhir Zaman

2009-11-17 Terurut Topik Boh Yap

hi all,

yes, let's discuss on open lists, this is after all an 'open
community'. And Red1 has been honest and open in sharing his fetish in
this thread (see last few posts ;-)
https://mail.google.com/mail/#search/fetish/12445fea336919fc

Also I agree with Red1, let's outgrow our 'kiasu' attitude! From my
experiance, this 'kiasu' atitude is not a monopoly of Malaysia or even
Singapore. This exists even for example, with China

Red1, again I want to play devil's advocate,

1. you can't build a national IT policy on just ONE PRODUCT
ALONE, ERP, altho it has wide applications (yes, any business
entity would require an ERP, but you're missing many other
opportunities... read on)

2. I would also like to push the healthcare IT agenda, for MSC8, the
following reasons:
- Everybody needs healthcare, more so with our deteriorating
  health standards, and hence a very wide market.

- Healthcare is not a price sensitive market, when did you last
  bargain with yr doctor?, as opposed to someone bargaining for a
  cheaper ERP solution..

- There is a wide range of high-end services under the healthcare
  umbrella, hence investment/biz development opportunity..
  ie: Medical imaging, in today's Star Clinical Trials - all highly IT
  intensive.

- We have an opportunity to be world-class, especially in LHR
  (Lifelong Health Record) by leveraging(reviving?) our smartcard
  NRIC.

- and to correct a perception - healthcare is not ERP. Although
  there is some overlap, like in areas of inventory, asset
  management, logistics, the rest are not.

- Potential to provide world-class services, Healthcare has some
  very strong and complex standards, HL7, Snomed, LOINC, ...
  and experts and solutions for these earn big consultg bucks..

- Huge potential to do joint research with foreign Uni's, there are
  FOSS projects from anything like Medical Imaging (think, 3D
  games applied to medical), to LHR done by Uni like UCLA, MIT,
  Harvard Med School, Imperial College etc...

PS http://www.mscmalaysia.my/topic/Enhanced+Health+Services
  If you go to the above URL, you'll see that MSC talks about Health
  Services and has a list of 'services' - LHR is one of them!
  But other than MyHealth, the rest is vapourware?

  And my question of MyHealth: is this the only outcome of the $$M
  spent on the 'telemedicine flagship'?, its nothing more than a
  brochureware portal!
   Its forums are unmoderated, nobody seems to be answering,
   and its littered with MLM guys pushing bogus? healthcare
   products...


3. Lets not also forget the 'sexy' (in politicians and investors mind)
sectors like BioTech and GreenTech. (And these sectors have $$)
Both these sectors require a lot of IT, and to leave this out of a
MSC8 plan is just dumb. Here's why we shld work with these
parties.

   Biotech -
 relies heavilly on genetics engineering, and genetic sequencing
 and workg with genetic database would not be possible without
 IT.
 Also sophisticated Lab machinery depends heavilly on
 computer control snd programming, again requiring IT skills.

   GreenTech -
  Also requires a lot of IT, for the initial CAD/CAM engineering
  design  fabrication (CNC (Computerised Numerial Control)
  machine tools, robotics, etc...)
  Also most GreenTech, be it Water Recycling, Wind Energy,
  etc... require a lot of automated controls, needing expertise in
  embedded systems design and programming... again another
  aspect of IT!

4. Education: always been my bitch and pitch...
 We HAVE TO revamp education, otherwise ALL of the above
 including ERP is a pipe dream! The original MSC failed largely
 because of education (can't produce the manpower, where are
 the 1,000 Java programmers, the 80 PHDs in data/radio
 comm.), and MSC8 too will fail if edu doesn't change.

 Yes Red1, I know your plans include a Adempiere Research
 Center, that is well and good, but if basic technical skills is
 not part of the core curriculum we still have a problem, eventho
 you have have 100's ERP consultants... these will be just
 business processes people.

5. Need to create a Hacker Culture
By this I mean we gotta change public perception of what a
hacker (and here I mean a good programmer, not a malicious
criminal that works with computers) is. That a 'hacker' is a
honourable and well paying job. Its as prestigous as a lawyer or
engineer.. . and parents would encourage their kids to be
programmers, instead of just lawyers and doctors...

How? Perhaps Rafe's idea of a widely publicised programming
competition is a good start. Perhaps there should be regular an
inter-school coding, website-design, security hacking
competition...

Perhaps a local production company will produce a short series
on hackers... c'mon lets come out 

[osdcmy-public] Re: Entrepreneurship For OSS Developers

2009-11-17 Terurut Topik Boh Yap

Haris,

Canonical had a great benefector, Mike Shuttleworth, that pumped in a
whole chunk of $, and Red Hat has its IPO.

End of the day the car wont run without fuel, the fuel is $

Here is an idea, OSDC (or any other FOSS community ) should have a
community fund, provided by (MDEC?, some sponsor) and jointly managed
by them?

Or work with sponsors, perhaps TM can sponsor rackspace, HP/IBM/Dell
can sponsor 1 or 2 servers BUT we gotta have a good plan,
otherwise they'll just think we want a free lunch.

Let's work together, and put this into the MSC8 Propo...?

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel
linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote:

 Last Saturday night meetup with FreeBSD / PCBSD / MyBSD.

 One topic that we come up. How to community can be financial depended.
 We talk about problem hosting our documentation, better hardware and
 providing services to own community.

 We discuss about community as business entity.

 Let look back to history of Red Hat.
 http://www.redhat.com/about/companyprofile/history/

 Its business entity that make Red Hat Distribution booming and
 continue to be develop.

 Not to mention Ubuntu and Canonical.

 Anyway..

 Community should has business arm or business that support them. We
 can provide consultant services, technical support, online helpdesk
 and many more.

 Think about it. How long we want to wait for funding?

 Its take time to change people. Let we change ourself.

 On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 10:37 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote:

 Haris,
 Memang kasar kau - the english version is you pay peanuts, you get
 monkeys!

 I like to commend your post again as spot-on. Benefit of FOSS is
 freedom, not free lunch.

 Harisfazillah Jamel wrote:
 Making business using OSS is still hard for us, maybe the skills that
 we have and the believe that using OSS should be cheap... (haiya)...

 Im against using costs saving as a benefit because it make our OSS
 industry suffers. Its may good to present to politicians but its has
 negative impacts.

 We can see this from our friends doing freelance and companies that
 moving aways from supporting OSS as business models. They suffers
 because the amount paid could not cover the increase costs during
 services.

 I always said. The amount that we save from licensing should be invest
 back to OSS industry by paying services that will benefits to all.

 RM1000 that we save, we can used that to hire OSS consultants to give
 services like network consultancy, training and configuration.

 This will increase our human capitals skills set and knowledge.

 They want quality services but tapi mahu bayar ciput. (want to pay
 small amounts)

 Mungkin ayat ini kasar. Tapi peribahasa saya  Dibayar taik dapat taik.




 




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[osdcmy-public] Re: Proposal Akhir Zaman

2009-11-17 Terurut Topik red1

You are a devil alright and mostly right!
One little point though is that please do not associate adempiere as 
mine, irrespective of my neckhold on it. I very much wants it to be a 
Malaysian pride and might. All your ideas can make it happen faster.

I this week am at Park Royal attending the International Software 
Testing Qualification Board and met up with a very interesting contact 
that can turn the whole project worldwide around. Strange how Karma 
works, so i would leave it mysteriously at that :) (to leave the devil 
guessing)

Boh Yap wrote:
 hi all,

 yes, let's discuss on open lists, this is after all an 'open
 community'. And Red1 has been honest and open in sharing his fetish in
 this thread (see last few posts ;-)
 https://mail.google.com/mail/#search/fetish/12445fea336919fc

 Also I agree with Red1, let's outgrow our 'kiasu' attitude! From my
 experiance, this 'kiasu' atitude is not a monopoly of Malaysia or even
 Singapore. This exists even for example, with China

 Red1, again I want to play devil's advocate,

 1. you can't build a national IT policy on just ONE PRODUCT
 ALONE, ERP, altho it has wide applications (yes, any business
 entity would require an ERP, but you're missing many other
 opportunities... read on)

 2. I would also like to push the healthcare IT agenda, for MSC8, the
 following reasons:
 - Everybody needs healthcare, more so with our deteriorating
   health standards, and hence a very wide market.

 - Healthcare is not a price sensitive market, when did you last
   bargain with yr doctor?, as opposed to someone bargaining for a
   cheaper ERP solution..

 - There is a wide range of high-end services under the healthcare
   umbrella, hence investment/biz development opportunity..
   ie: Medical imaging, in today's Star Clinical Trials - all highly IT
   intensive.

 - We have an opportunity to be world-class, especially in LHR
   (Lifelong Health Record) by leveraging(reviving?) our smartcard
   NRIC.

 - and to correct a perception - healthcare is not ERP. Although
   there is some overlap, like in areas of inventory, asset
   management, logistics, the rest are not.

 - Potential to provide world-class services, Healthcare has some
   very strong and complex standards, HL7, Snomed, LOINC, ...
   and experts and solutions for these earn big consultg bucks..

 - Huge potential to do joint research with foreign Uni's, there are
   FOSS projects from anything like Medical Imaging (think, 3D
   games applied to medical), to LHR done by Uni like UCLA, MIT,
   Harvard Med School, Imperial College etc...

 PS http://www.mscmalaysia.my/topic/Enhanced+Health+Services
   If you go to the above URL, you'll see that MSC talks about Health
   Services and has a list of 'services' - LHR is one of them!
   But other than MyHealth, the rest is vapourware?

   And my question of MyHealth: is this the only outcome of the $$M
   spent on the 'telemedicine flagship'?, its nothing more than a
   brochureware portal!
Its forums are unmoderated, nobody seems to be answering,
and its littered with MLM guys pushing bogus? healthcare
products...


 3. Lets not also forget the 'sexy' (in politicians and investors mind)
 sectors like BioTech and GreenTech. (And these sectors have $$)
 Both these sectors require a lot of IT, and to leave this out of a
 MSC8 plan is just dumb. Here's why we shld work with these
 parties.

Biotech -
  relies heavilly on genetics engineering, and genetic sequencing
  and workg with genetic database would not be possible without
  IT.
  Also sophisticated Lab machinery depends heavilly on
  computer control snd programming, again requiring IT skills.

GreenTech -
   Also requires a lot of IT, for the initial CAD/CAM engineering
   design  fabrication (CNC (Computerised Numerial Control)
   machine tools, robotics, etc...)
   Also most GreenTech, be it Water Recycling, Wind Energy,
   etc... require a lot of automated controls, needing expertise in
   embedded systems design and programming... again another
   aspect of IT!

 4. Education: always been my bitch and pitch...
  We HAVE TO revamp education, otherwise ALL of the above
  including ERP is a pipe dream! The original MSC failed largely
  because of education (can't produce the manpower, where are
  the 1,000 Java programmers, the 80 PHDs in data/radio
  comm.), and MSC8 too will fail if edu doesn't change.

  Yes Red1, I know your plans include a Adempiere Research
  Center, that is well and good, but if basic technical skills is
  not part of the core curriculum we still have a problem, eventho
  you have have 100's ERP consultants... these will be just
  business processes people.

 5. Need to create a Hacker Culture
 By this I mean we gotta change public perception of 

[osdcmy-public] Re: MySecurity Community

2009-11-17 Terurut Topik Mohd Hidzuan
Salam dewa2

Saya cadangkan biarkan sahaja macam tu.. kita tgk sapa berani godam.. baru
kita tahu sejauh mana level penggodam.. hehehe

Kata kita malaysia security expert.. apa risau.. dia godam.. kita lawan
balik.. sebab penggodam2 kat Malaysia ni level Jaguh Kampung ajer..
muahahaaha..

Sekadar cadangan selepas perut kenyang... hehehehe
...
To follow the path, look to the master,
follow the master, walk with the master,
see through the master, become the master.

Selasih Net Enterprise
we never sleep, we just park our head


Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia


On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Muhamad Hisyam Nasir 
gempakhost...@gmail.com wrote:


 Pasal IRC , open port SSL lepastu, buat hidekan semua /links dan /map
 , baru lebih secure, lepas tu upkan BOPM skali dalam server , serangan
 proxy dapat dielakkan, neostats pun salah satu app 3rd party yang
 bagus tuk irc. itu yang boleh aku kongsi lau bab  irc server pasal
 basic security.

 :P thanks..

 On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 1:11 AM, aziman noor azi...@gmail.com wrote:
  itu sudah pasti.
  ssh guna nama aku ajer boleh... wakakaka.
 
  tapi aku nak tanya korang la kan,
  gmail ada bagi pilihan sama ada kita nak guna https atau http,
 
  yang aku nak tanya? apa pro dan kontra setting kedua-duan tersebut...
 
  On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 2:57 AM, Mohd Yusnizam Mohamad
  myusni...@opensource.org.my wrote:
 
  cheers
 
  On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 2:06 AM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
  bizkut...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Kalau cakap bab security, rasanya irc server pun kena SSL jugak ni,
  barulah secure dari akar umbi.
 
 
 
  Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
  ---
  Ubuntu embedded developer/tester
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut
 
  Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org
 
  PGP Public Key
 
 http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C
 
 
 
  On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 2:03 AM, cikgu ayob ayob.alham...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
   aku dh join,,,
   best2,,,
  
   On Nov 15, 12:36 am, Mohd Fazli Azran mfazliaz...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hi all,
  
   After our meeting today at Bangi Oldtown with 9 members . We are
   agreed
   to invite all of you guy to join our irc community for discussion
   about
   security and etc. Our agenda will sent to all after this meetup.
   FreeBSD/PCBSD community are happy to invite all community to join to
   build more strongest security among us.
  
   IRC server
   /server irc.mysecurity.my 80
  
   We use port 80 because many of us have policy  block default irc
 port
   6667. For that we use port 80 so everybody can go in to irc server.
   Any
   comment and opinion are welcome.
  
   Mohd Fazli Azran
   PCBSD Malaysia
   MySecurity.my
   
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 

 


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[osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation

2009-11-17 Terurut Topik E A Faisal
Thanks for the nomination.

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Muhammad Syafiq
creativeneur...@gmail.comwrote:

 finish already lah bro..


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 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Mohd Yusnizam Mohamad 
 myusni...@opensource.org.my wrote:

 invite myusnizam at opensource dot org dot my

 TQ


 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Muhammad Syafiq 
 creativeneur...@gmail.com wrote:

 okay guys, here ppl who's invited by me.
 done finish already.
 thank you, btw, i wish u guys will enjoy with google wave.

  Reply
 Edit




 People my nominated:

- hadri.hi...@gmail.com
- trunas...@gmail.com
- ridzwa...@gmail.com
- tipswan...@gmail.com
- eafai...@gmail.com
- mynameisam...@gmail.com



 regards,


 محمد شافق بن مذلي
 Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli

 9C47 367F 03AE 5CCF EB9C
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 Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia


 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Amin Mahmood 
 mynameisam...@gmail.comwrote:

 invite me please

 mynameisam...@gmail.com


 On 11/16/09, E A Faisal eafai...@gmail.com wrote:

 My Syafiq, pls add me as well eafai...@gmail.com


 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Muhammad Syafiq 
 creativeneur...@gmail.com wrote:

 okay mr. se7en. 1 google wave account done invited to you.

 have a nice day!

 2 account more!

 محمد شافق بن مذلي
 Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli

 9C47 367F 03AE 5CCF EB9C
 693F 4FCA 7273 A3C3 20BD

 Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia



   On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:49 PM, se7en ridzwa...@gmail.com wrote:

 add me also.. ridzwa...@gmail.com


 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Muhammad Syafiq 
 creativeneur...@gmail.com wrote:

 okay, hadri and encik arafat done invited. have a nice day with your
 google wave account.
 Thank you.

 3 account's more!


 محمد شافق بن مذلي
 Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli

 9C47 367F 03AE 5CCF EB9C
 693F 4FCA 7273 A3C3 20BD


 Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia



 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Ahmad Arafat Abdullah 
 trunas...@gmail.com wrote:

 add me..

 *trunas...@gmail.com*





 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:22 PM, hadri hilmi 
 hadri.hi...@gmail.com wrote:

 count me, hadri.hi...@gmail.com.


 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:20 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel 
 linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote:


 Saya sudah ada. Sekadar hendak bertanya berapa lama perlu tunggu
 baru
 dapat jemput orang lain?

 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Muhammad Syafiq
 creativeneur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  salam
 
  hi everyone,
 
  i got 5 google wave to invite.
 
  pls list down your email.
 
  Tq.
 













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[osdcmy-public] Re: M$ patent SUDO.. so what now? ( for those who use sudo as their administration tools )

2009-11-17 Terurut Topik ng swee meng

Not just that, lets not hope that they are doing something stupid like,
supporting 3 strike law, or support DRM
On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 20:10 +0800, E A Faisal wrote:
 
 
 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah
 rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote:
 the only way that a software can be patented in malaysia if it
 is an embedded algorithm in an appliance or gadget. something
 like if the algorithm becomes part of the circuits.
 
 else software patents and business method patents are not
 recognised in malaysia.
 
 Luckily we're not recognising software patent. I strongly oppose
 software patent. I have no problem with software copyright though.
 Guess we need to be more vocal in opposing software patent so that
 policy makers don't make a wrong move to recognising it.
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 



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[osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation

2009-11-17 Terurut Topik Adam Othman
Aiyak... no more left ka? huhu~
if anybody still have a slot.. adam0th...@gmail.com

TQ

Regards,


On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 8:12 PM, E A Faisal eafai...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for the nomination.


 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Muhammad Syafiq 
 creativeneur...@gmail.com wrote:

 finish already lah bro..


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 Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli

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 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Mohd Yusnizam Mohamad 
 myusni...@opensource.org.my wrote:

 invite myusnizam at opensource dot org dot my

 TQ


 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Muhammad Syafiq 
 creativeneur...@gmail.com wrote:

 okay guys, here ppl who's invited by me.
 done finish already.
 thank you, btw, i wish u guys will enjoy with google wave.

  Reply
 Edit




 People my nominated:

- hadri.hi...@gmail.com
- trunas...@gmail.com
- ridzwa...@gmail.com
- tipswan...@gmail.com
- eafai...@gmail.com
- mynameisam...@gmail.com



 regards,


 محمد شافق بن مذلي
 Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli

 9C47 367F 03AE 5CCF EB9C
 693F 4FCA 7273 A3C3 20BD

 Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia


 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Amin Mahmood 
 mynameisam...@gmail.comwrote:

 invite me please

 mynameisam...@gmail.com


 On 11/16/09, E A Faisal eafai...@gmail.com wrote:

 My Syafiq, pls add me as well eafai...@gmail.com


 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Muhammad Syafiq 
 creativeneur...@gmail.com wrote:

 okay mr. se7en. 1 google wave account done invited to you.

 have a nice day!

 2 account more!

 محمد شافق بن مذلي
 Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli

 9C47 367F 03AE 5CCF EB9C
 693F 4FCA 7273 A3C3 20BD

 Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia



   On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:49 PM, se7en ridzwa...@gmail.comwrote:

 add me also.. ridzwa...@gmail.com


 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Muhammad Syafiq 
 creativeneur...@gmail.com wrote:

 okay, hadri and encik arafat done invited. have a nice day with
 your google wave account.
 Thank you.

 3 account's more!


 محمد شافق بن مذلي
 Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli

 9C47 367F 03AE 5CCF EB9C
 693F 4FCA 7273 A3C3 20BD


 Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia



 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Ahmad Arafat Abdullah 
 trunas...@gmail.com wrote:

 add me..

 *trunas...@gmail.com*





 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:22 PM, hadri hilmi 
 hadri.hi...@gmail.com wrote:

 count me, hadri.hi...@gmail.com.


 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:20 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel 
 linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote:


 Saya sudah ada. Sekadar hendak bertanya berapa lama perlu tunggu
 baru
 dapat jemput orang lain?

 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Muhammad Syafiq
 creativeneur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  salam
 
  hi everyone,
 
  i got 5 google wave to invite.
 
  pls list down your email.
 
  Tq.
 













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[osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation

2009-11-17 Terurut Topik Adam Othman
Huhu.. dah request dah sebelum neh.. x dpt2 lg.. ~___~

Regards,

Nik M Adam Hafiz
M : +6017 916 3208
F : +603 51910755
www.f.n0rd.org


On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Harith hari...@gmail.com wrote:

 Alahai, sori la kwn2...aku dah habis dah..tak tau kwn2 yg lain

 aku rasa kalau korang request kat google lama niInsyallah dah dpt dah
 kot..
 cuba la..

 https://services.google.com/fb/forms/wavesignup/


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 On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Adam Othman adam0th...@gmail.com wrote:

 Aiyak... no more left ka? huhu~
 if anybody still have a slot.. adam0th...@gmail.com

 TQ

 Regards,



 On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 8:12 PM, E A Faisal eafai...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for the nomination.


 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Muhammad Syafiq 
 creativeneur...@gmail.com wrote:

 finish already lah bro..


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 Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli

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 Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia


 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Mohd Yusnizam Mohamad 
 myusni...@opensource.org.my wrote:

 invite myusnizam at opensource dot org dot my

 TQ


 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Muhammad Syafiq 
 creativeneur...@gmail.com wrote:

 okay guys, here ppl who's invited by me.
 done finish already.
 thank you, btw, i wish u guys will enjoy with google wave.

  Reply
 Edit




 People my nominated:

- hadri.hi...@gmail.com
- trunas...@gmail.com
- ridzwa...@gmail.com
- tipswan...@gmail.com
- eafai...@gmail.com
- mynameisam...@gmail.com



 regards,


 محمد شافق بن مذلي
 Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli

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 Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia


 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Amin Mahmood 
 mynameisam...@gmail.com wrote:

 invite me please

 mynameisam...@gmail.com


 On 11/16/09, E A Faisal eafai...@gmail.com wrote:

 My Syafiq, pls add me as well eafai...@gmail.com


 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Muhammad Syafiq 
 creativeneur...@gmail.com wrote:

 okay mr. se7en. 1 google wave account done invited to you.

 have a nice day!

 2 account more!

 محمد شافق بن مذلي
 Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli

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 Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia



   On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:49 PM, se7en ridzwa...@gmail.comwrote:

 add me also.. ridzwa...@gmail.com


 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Muhammad Syafiq 
 creativeneur...@gmail.com wrote:

 okay, hadri and encik arafat done invited. have a nice day with
 your google wave account.
 Thank you.

 3 account's more!


 محمد شافق بن مذلي
 Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli

 9C47 367F 03AE 5CCF EB9C
 693F 4FCA 7273 A3C3 20BD


 Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia



 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Ahmad Arafat Abdullah 
 trunas...@gmail.com wrote:

 add me..

 *trunas...@gmail.com*





 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:22 PM, hadri hilmi 
 hadri.hi...@gmail.com wrote:

 count me, hadri.hi...@gmail.com.


 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:20 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel 
 linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote:


 Saya sudah ada. Sekadar hendak bertanya berapa lama perlu
 tunggu baru
 dapat jemput orang lain?

 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Muhammad Syafiq
 creativeneur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  salam
 
  hi everyone,
 
  i got 5 google wave to invite.
 
  pls list down your email.
 
  Tq.
 













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[osdcmy-public] OpenOffice.org Mouse

2009-11-17 Terurut Topik Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini

anyone interested?

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[osdcmy-public] Re: OpenOffice.org Mouse

2009-11-17 Terurut Topik aziman noor
Untuk OpenOffice mungkin boleh dipertimbangkan jika selalu membuat
kerja-kerja opis, buat kertas kerja.
Kerja macam aku yang selalu ngadap windows dan linux, jarang benar guna
tikus... dalam windows pun guna cli banyak... rasa cam cepat guna kibod jerk
kalo budak teknikal nih.

Thanks.

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[osdcmy-public] Re: Redhat Invite you to... Red Hat Virtual Experience...

2009-11-17 Terurut Topik Mohd Hidzuan
menarik ni.. tapi Gecko jugak hebat.. muahahaha
...
To follow the path, look to the master,
follow the master, walk with the master,
see through the master, become the master.

Selasih Net Enterprise
we never sleep, we just park our head


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[osdcmy-public] Re: Proposal Akhir Zaman

2009-11-17 Terurut Topik Boh Yap

hi Red1,

point taken, Adempiere is not 'yours', but I perceive you as its
symbolic head, and definitely someone that has major contribs. to
drive its success...

and yes, I'm still guessing ;-)

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 7:02 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote:

 You are a devil alright and mostly right!
 One little point though is that please do not associate adempiere as
 mine, irrespective of my neckhold on it. I very much wants it to be a
 Malaysian pride and might. All your ideas can make it happen faster.

 I this week am at Park Royal attending the International Software
 Testing Qualification Board and met up with a very interesting contact
 that can turn the whole project worldwide around. Strange how Karma
 works, so i would leave it mysteriously at that :) (to leave the devil
 guessing)

 Boh Yap wrote:
 hi all,

 yes, let's discuss on open lists, this is after all an 'open
 community'. And Red1 has been honest and open in sharing his fetish in
 this thread (see last few posts ;-)
 https://mail.google.com/mail/#search/fetish/12445fea336919fc

 Also I agree with Red1, let's outgrow our 'kiasu' attitude! From my
 experiance, this 'kiasu' atitude is not a monopoly of Malaysia or even
 Singapore. This exists even for example, with China

 Red1, again I want to play devil's advocate,

 1. you can't build a national IT policy on just ONE PRODUCT
     ALONE, ERP, altho it has wide applications (yes, any business
     entity would require an ERP, but you're missing many other
 opportunities... read on)

 2. I would also like to push the healthcare IT agenda, for MSC8, the
     following reasons:
     - Everybody needs healthcare, more so with our deteriorating
       health standards, and hence a very wide market.

     - Healthcare is not a price sensitive market, when did you last
       bargain with yr doctor?, as opposed to someone bargaining for a
       cheaper ERP solution..

     - There is a wide range of high-end services under the healthcare
       umbrella, hence investment/biz development opportunity..
       ie: Medical imaging, in today's Star Clinical Trials - all highly IT
       intensive.

     - We have an opportunity to be world-class, especially in LHR
       (Lifelong Health Record) by leveraging(reviving?) our smartcard
       NRIC.

     - and to correct a perception - healthcare is not ERP. Although
       there is some overlap, like in areas of inventory, asset
       management, logistics, the rest are not.

     - Potential to provide world-class services, Healthcare has some
       very strong and complex standards, HL7, Snomed, LOINC, ...
       and experts and solutions for these earn big consultg bucks..

     - Huge potential to do joint research with foreign Uni's, there are
       FOSS projects from anything like Medical Imaging (think, 3D
       games applied to medical), to LHR done by Uni like UCLA, MIT,
       Harvard Med School, Imperial College etc...

 PS http://www.mscmalaysia.my/topic/Enhanced+Health+Services
   If you go to the above URL, you'll see that MSC talks about Health
   Services and has a list of 'services' - LHR is one of them!
   But other than MyHealth, the rest is vapourware?

   And my question of MyHealth: is this the only outcome of the $$M
   spent on the 'telemedicine flagship'?, its nothing more than a
   brochureware portal!
    Its forums are unmoderated, nobody seems to be answering,
    and its littered with MLM guys pushing bogus? healthcare
    products...


 3. Lets not also forget the 'sexy' (in politicians and investors mind)
     sectors like BioTech and GreenTech. (And these sectors have $$)
     Both these sectors require a lot of IT, and to leave this out of a
     MSC8 plan is just dumb. Here's why we shld work with these
     parties.

    Biotech -
      relies heavilly on genetics engineering, and genetic sequencing
      and workg with genetic database would not be possible without
      IT.
      Also sophisticated Lab machinery depends heavilly on
      computer control snd programming, again requiring IT skills.

    GreenTech -
       Also requires a lot of IT, for the initial CAD/CAM engineering
       design  fabrication (CNC (Computerised Numerial Control)
       machine tools, robotics, etc...)
       Also most GreenTech, be it Water Recycling, Wind Energy,
       etc... require a lot of automated controls, needing expertise in
       embedded systems design and programming... again another
       aspect of IT!

 4. Education: always been my bitch and pitch...
      We HAVE TO revamp education, otherwise ALL of the above
      including ERP is a pipe dream! The original MSC failed largely
      because of education (can't produce the manpower, where are
      the 1,000 Java programmers, the 80 PHDs in data/radio
      comm.), and MSC8 too will fail if edu doesn't change.

      Yes Red1, I know your plans include a Adempiere Research
      Center, that is well and good, but if basic technical skills is

[osdcmy-public] TAKSU

2009-11-17 Terurut Topik Azrul Hasni MADISA
All this talk about kiasu, I propose replacing kiasu with TAKSU (not
taksub). which stands for

Think big
Act and react fast
Kick butt
Shout loudly
Ultimately share

Azrul Sensei

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[osdcmy-public] Re: TAKSU

2009-11-17 Terurut Topik Yusof Khalid - FreeBSD / OpenBSD
nice quote of the day :)

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azrulha...@gmail.comwrote:

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 taksub). which stands for

 Think big
 Act and react fast
 Kick butt
 Shout loudly
 Ultimately share

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[osdcmy-public] Re: OpenOffice.org Mouse

2009-11-17 Terurut Topik Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini

it still on development..
if refer to the main webpage it will be release in around February 2009..

mungkin aku mintak jadi reseller mouse ni dalam Malaysia :p

Eric Yeoh wrote:
 Where can I get it locally?

 Eric

 On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:20 AM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini 
 jipangmenje...@gmail.com wrote:

   
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[osdcmy-public] Re: Mesyuarat Pembentukan BSD Malaysia MySecurity Community

2009-11-17 Terurut Topik Mohamad Farhan
komiti untok OSCONF 2010 dah ade ke?

2009/11/16 Mohd Yusnizam Mohamad myusni...@opensource.org.my

 good idea. get ready mr fadli and *BSD

 2009/11/16 Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com


 Kita perlu rancang aktiviti-aktiviti yang kemudiannya kita boleh
 ketengahkan pada MSC OSCONF 2010 nanti. Road To MSC OSCONF 2010 sudah
 bermula
 Ingat hari Hackathon ramai bertumpu kepada track Mahmod. Kena kembangkan
 lagi
 track tu jadi showcase kepada MySecurity.

 2009/11/15 Mohd Fazli Azran mfazliaz...@gmail.com:
 
  Pebentangan mesyuarat MySecurity  BSD Malaysia Community
 
  Kedatangan
  1) Haris
  2) Azhar
  3) Saidi
  4) Syukor
  5) Faisal
  6) Arafat
  7) Fazli
  8) Irwan
  9) Ejat
 
  Security Community
 
  Agenda
  1) Mailing-list Community Security
  2) Laporan Community Security
  3) make business for community for survival
  4) Security Community Vision
  5) FreeBSD community akan menngetuai Security komuniti.
  6) Channel kan ke Mampu (GCERT)  MyCERT untuk keselamatan cyber
  7) Membuat link dengan agensi kerajaan
  8) Maklumbalas dari MyCert  GCert
  9) Mendapat polisi Kerajaan  Universiti mengenai polisi dan sempadan
  mengenai keselamatan Cyber.
 
  BSD Malaysia
 
  Agenda
  1) Perancangan membuat BSD Malaysia
  2) Memanggil semua ahli BSD Malaysia
  3) Membuat BSD rasmi
  4) Mendapat maklum balas dari MyBSD Project
  5) Server untuk komuniti menggunakan MyREN
  6) Lesen Majalah BSD
  7) Membuat support team untuk BSD project
  6) Membuat latihan BSD untuk rakyat/OKU
 
  Mohd Fazli Azran
  PCBSD Malaysia
  MySecurity
 




 


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[osdcmy-public] Bringing Adempiere's concept to Plain Old Java -1

2009-11-17 Terurut Topik Azrul Hasni MADISA
Salam All,

Is it just me or did time just freeze on this mailing list. What happen to
you guys! Wake up already! Hahahaha!
I've just written something on Adempiere [
http://ejn3.blogspot.com/2009/11/adempiere-references-in-plain-old-java.html]
. Please have a look and tell me what you think.


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[osdcmy-public] Re: Mesyuarat Pembentukan BSD Malaysia MySecurity Community

2009-11-17 Terurut Topik Adam Othman
Semase MyGOSSCon yg lepas, dah ade booth OSCONF..
Sy ade tanye2, rasenye main komiti dah ade, dan dorg dah start gather
speakers..

Regards,

Nik M Adam Hafiz


2009/11/18 Mohamad Farhan slipknot0...@gmail.com

 komiti untok OSCONF 2010 dah ade ke?

 2009/11/16 Mohd Yusnizam Mohamad myusni...@opensource.org.my

 good idea. get ready mr fadli and *BSD

 2009/11/16 Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com


 Kita perlu rancang aktiviti-aktiviti yang kemudiannya kita boleh
 ketengahkan pada MSC OSCONF 2010 nanti. Road To MSC OSCONF 2010 sudah
 bermula
 Ingat hari Hackathon ramai bertumpu kepada track Mahmod. Kena kembangkan
 lagi
 track tu jadi showcase kepada MySecurity.

 2009/11/15 Mohd Fazli Azran mfazliaz...@gmail.com:
 
  Pebentangan mesyuarat MySecurity  BSD Malaysia Community
 
  Kedatangan
  1) Haris
  2) Azhar
  3) Saidi
  4) Syukor
  5) Faisal
  6) Arafat
  7) Fazli
  8) Irwan
  9) Ejat
 
  Security Community
 
  Agenda
  1) Mailing-list Community Security
  2) Laporan Community Security
  3) make business for community for survival
  4) Security Community Vision
  5) FreeBSD community akan menngetuai Security komuniti.
  6) Channel kan ke Mampu (GCERT)  MyCERT untuk keselamatan cyber
  7) Membuat link dengan agensi kerajaan
  8) Maklumbalas dari MyCert  GCert
  9) Mendapat polisi Kerajaan  Universiti mengenai polisi dan sempadan
  mengenai keselamatan Cyber.
 
  BSD Malaysia
 
  Agenda
  1) Perancangan membuat BSD Malaysia
  2) Memanggil semua ahli BSD Malaysia
  3) Membuat BSD rasmi
  4) Mendapat maklum balas dari MyBSD Project
  5) Server untuk komuniti menggunakan MyREN
  6) Lesen Majalah BSD
  7) Membuat support team untuk BSD project
  6) Membuat latihan BSD untuk rakyat/OKU
 
  Mohd Fazli Azran
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  MySecurity
 







 


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[osdcmy-public] Re: Bringing Adempiere's concept to Plain Old Java -1

2009-11-17 Terurut Topik Raja Iskandar Shah
there is also another bit that i have discovered about adempiere - data is
organised using the concept of dimensions - much like in olap cubes.
theoretically this means in combination with the rad design, you can also
rad the data as well without worrying about tables and fields.

rolap + crud makes for some really rad application framework




On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Azrul Hasni MADISA azrulha...@gmail.comwrote:

 Salam All,

 Is it just me or did time just freeze on this mailing list. What happen to
 you guys! Wake up already! Hahahaha!
 I've just written something on Adempiere [
 http://ejn3.blogspot.com/2009/11/adempiere-references-in-plain-old-java.html]
 . Please have a look and tell me what you think.


 Azrul Sensei

 


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[osdcmy-public] Re: Bringing Adempiere's concept to Plain Old Java -1

2009-11-17 Terurut Topik Raja Iskandar Shah
there are rolap and molap besides the generic olap . rolap handles larger
transactions volumes but molap is faster.

at the moment, adempiere uses postgresql / oracle / mysql as the database.
the dimension is only a concept that it uses but the data is still in a sql
database. there are probably lots more tweaks to be done at the database
layer so that it handles the concept of dimension better.

1000+ concurrent users ? that is huge. would make for an awesome project to
build a massive multiuser online enterprise framework that handles 1 million
concurrent users.

from an accounting / operation user point of view - the first thing that
needs to be overhauled in adempiere is standardisation to master-child and
grids.






On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Azrul Hasni MADISA azrulha...@gmail.comwrote:

 OLAP is known to have performance problem on update, could this be the
 reason why Adempiere does not scale well over 1000+ users?

 Azrul


 On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah 
 rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote:

 there is also another bit that i have discovered about adempiere - data is
 organised using the concept of dimensions - much like in olap cubes.
 theoretically this means in combination with the rad design, you can also
 rad the data as well without worrying about tables and fields.

 rolap + crud makes for some really rad application framework





 On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Azrul Hasni MADISA azrulha...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Salam All,

 Is it just me or did time just freeze on this mailing list. What happen
 to you guys! Wake up already! Hahahaha!
 I've just written something on Adempiere [
 http://ejn3.blogspot.com/2009/11/adempiere-references-in-plain-old-java.html]
 . Please have a look and tell me what you think.


 Azrul Sensei







 


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