Re: [osg-users] OSG Books (was: RE: Number of contributors)

2009-02-22 Thread Robert Osfield
Hi Paul,

On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Paul Martz pma...@skew-matrix.com wrote:
 Thanks, Robert. I really just need the URL for the old Professional Support
 page, which used to be here:

 http://www.openscenegraph.org/osgwiki/pmwiki.php/Support/Support

 I can't find the new location, not by searching the wiki for the obvious
 professional support, at least.

We there is more than one company providing professional support today
so might I suggest a list of websites such as openscenegraph.com,
skew-matrix.com etc.  There shouldn't be any need to deep links that
the above.

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Re: [osg-users] OSG Books (was: RE: Number of contributors)

2009-02-13 Thread Robert Osfield
Hi Paul,

Earlier today I did some clean up work on the contents of downloads
directory, reorganising the stable_release directory so that it
contains all the OpenSceneGaph-version directories right back to 1.0,
with each directory containing a source, binaries, documentation and
data directories.  Not all the releases had all the binaries
available, nor had specific directories or docs so some of these
directories as absent.

I've made this change to try an keep everything related to a release
in a single directory section, rather having all the docs, source,
data and binaries all dispersed everywhere.

While this new structure might be more logical for new users coming to
the project, links to the old directories will now be broken.  My
thought was to find out what links exist and then create symbolic
links to the new directories so that we don't need to maintain two
versions of the data.  Could you list what links you have in the
existing book, both on the binaries, source and data front.  It'd also
be worth deciding what the new links should be in the revision of the
book.

I recall there was an earth dataset that you linked to original Quick
Start Guide, but I don't believe this exists on the server since our
migration of server a couple of years back.  Could you list what you
need and we then upload something appropriate to the server in the
right place.

Cheers,
Robert.

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Re: [osg-users] OSG Books (was: RE: Number of contributors)

2009-02-13 Thread Paul Martz
Hi Robert -- Thanks for the cleanup, this is great organization.

I recall being kind of strict about _not_ including links deeper than
openscenegraph.org. The planet database, for example, is not in the text
(but I know you recently posted one to demo the curl plugin and your
DatabasePager mods for 2.8, so I could give a link to that if it's still
there).

Should I still cite www.openscenegraph.org as the main wiki page? I see it
is only a redirector now.

Anyhow, links deeper than www.openscenegraph.org do exist in the text, and
they are as follows:

  Subscribing to the mail list:
http://www.openscenegraph.org/mailman/listinfo/osg-users

  Professional Support:
http://www.openscenegraph.org/osgwiki/pmwiki.php/Support/Support

  Mac OS X tips:
http://www.openscenegraph.org/index.php?page=Tutorials.MacOSXTips

So these are the ones I need.

I'll update the first two URLs to the new addresses as I continue with my
2.8 revision.

For the Mac tips link, does it still exist and is it still useful
information for OSG 2.8? If not, I'll just cut it from my new revision. Last
time we did an OS survey, Mac users accounted for 10% of our community,
putting them third on the totem pole...

Paul Martz
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http://www.skew-matrix.com
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Subject: Re: [osg-users] OSG Books (was: RE: Number of contributors)

Hi Paul,

Earlier today I did some clean up work on the contents of downloads
directory, reorganising the stable_release directory so that it contains all
the OpenSceneGaph-version directories right back to 1.0, with each directory
containing a source, binaries, documentation and data directories.  Not all
the releases had all the binaries available, nor had specific directories or
docs so some of these directories as absent.

I've made this change to try an keep everything related to a release in a
single directory section, rather having all the docs, source, data and
binaries all dispersed everywhere.

While this new structure might be more logical for new users coming to the
project, links to the old directories will now be broken.  My thought was to
find out what links exist and then create symbolic links to the new
directories so that we don't need to maintain two versions of the data.
Could you list what links you have in the existing book, both on the
binaries, source and data front.  It'd also be worth deciding what the new
links should be in the revision of the book.

I recall there was an earth dataset that you linked to original Quick Start
Guide, but I don't believe this exists on the server since our migration of
server a couple of years back.  Could you list what you need and we then
upload something appropriate to the server in the right place.

Cheers,
Robert.

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Re: [osg-users] OSG Books (was: RE: Number of contributors)

2009-02-13 Thread Robert Osfield
Hi Paul,

On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Paul Martz pma...@skew-matrix.com wrote:
 Hi Robert -- Thanks for the cleanup, this is great organization.

That's a relief that you find it better, sometimes ideas make sense to
oneself, but in the cold light of day and a fresh perspective of
others its reveal as dumb as bricks :-)

 I recall being kind of strict about _not_ including links deeper than
 openscenegraph.org. The planet database, for example, is not in the text
 (but I know you recently posted one to demo the curl plugin and your
 DatabasePager mods for 2.8, so I could give a link to that if it's still
 there).

The database is still available, and works just fine with 2.8.

 osgviewer http://www.openscenegraph.org/data/earth_bayarea/earth.ive

The database requires non power of two texture support on the graphics
card which make not it ideal for running on all machines - the
database is the proof of concept test of the work I did on
compressing/decompressing paged data so might be a bit too bleeding
edge for mention in the QuickStartGuide.

I, or others, could easily build another database that is less
bleeding edge.  Anybody got some publically available high res data
they can build an whole earth model from.  Even any other planet/moon
if you have the data :-)


 Should I still cite www.openscenegraph.org as the main wiki page? I see it
 is only a redirector now.

I think that would be best.  We may change wiki down the road, or mix
conventional web pages with wiki done for only sections of the
website.

Perhaps if we can pick standard directories on the server that server
can redirect to the appropriate page on the wiki.


 Anyhow, links deeper than www.openscenegraph.org do exist in the text, and
 they are as follows:

  Subscribing to the mail list:
http://www.openscenegraph.org/mailman/listinfo/osg-users

  Professional Support:
http://www.openscenegraph.org/osgwiki/pmwiki.php/Support/Support

  Mac OS X tips:
http://www.openscenegraph.org/index.php?page=Tutorials.MacOSXTips

 So these are the ones I need.

 I'll update the first two URLs to the new addresses as I continue with my
 2.8 revision.

 For the Mac tips link, does it still exist and is it still useful
 information for OSG 2.8? If not, I'll just cut it from my new revision. Last
 time we did an OS survey, Mac users accounted for 10% of our community,
 putting them third on the totem pole...

The old pmkwiki references will now be broken.

Subscription to the lists will be via lists.openscenegraph.org and the
forum (coming soon) we be via forum.openscenegraph.org.  Blog is
obviously now blog.openscenegraph.org.

The deep linking to parts of www.openscenegraph.org would need to be
by agreed directory names and with server redirect added to hide that
the page is actually located on the wiki.  We you get to the point of
revising the URL's please just shout when you need something tweaked
on the server to make it easier for you.

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Re: [osg-users] OSG Books (was: RE: Number of contributors)

2009-02-09 Thread Martin Beckett
Could I suggest a wiki cookbook which could then be turned into a printed book?
This seems to have worked for Python (the O'Reilly Python Cookbook is in it's 
3rd Ed)

Paul's excellent intro book covers getting started and the source provides the 
details but there is a need for 'the OSG way to do X' guide.

I can certainly think of a dozen questions which are more community type 
answers than strictly programming. eg.
Whats the best way to handle something like a grid which is part of the 
scenegraph but not part of the model?
Do I store things like switch/PAT nodes in the file or create them from scratch 
when I load it?

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Re: [osg-users] OSG Books (was: RE: Number of contributors)

2009-02-09 Thread Sukender
Hi Martin et al.,

IMHO, a receipe book would be very nice and would distribute the effort. 
Moreover, it would be a kind of sumarized mailing list for common problems, 
saving time for people searching the list.
And if the receipes are on Trac, then anyone having a different solution for 
the same problem could fill the article by describing this alternate solution 
and benefits and drawbacks of each.

I just suggest someone to be the maintainer of such an online/printable book, 
to avoid duplicates, to keep things up to date, to ask the community to regroup 
some similar articles or update them, to arrange articles hierarchically, etc.
Just my 2.5 cents (Euro is getting quite expensive comparing to USD these 
days!)...

Sukender
PVLE - Lightweight cross-platform game engine - http://pvle.sourceforge.net/


Le Mon, 09 Feb 2009 18:24:26 +0100, Martin Beckett m...@mgbeckett.com a écrit:

 Could I suggest a wiki cookbook which could then be turned into a printed 
 book?
 This seems to have worked for Python (the O'Reilly Python Cookbook is in it's 
 3rd Ed)

 Paul's excellent intro book covers getting started and the source provides 
 the details but there is a need for 'the OSG way to do X' guide.

 I can certainly think of a dozen questions which are more community type 
 answers than strictly programming. eg.
 Whats the best way to handle something like a grid which is part of the 
 scenegraph but not part of the model?
 Do I store things like switch/PAT nodes in the file or create them from 
 scratch when I load it?

 Martin


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Re: [osg-users] OSG Books (was: RE: Number of contributors)

2009-02-09 Thread Martin Beckett
Can the trac wiki be made user editable on some pages safely?
The obvious starting point is this page 
http://www.openscenegraph.org/projects/osg/wiki/Support/Tutorials
It says 'I have written these tutorials' but no indication who 'I' is or any 
contact details.

There is also an unofficial faq site at  
http://www.3drealtimesimulation.com/osg/osg_faq_1.htm
but it is a little out of date

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[osg-users] OSG Books (was: RE: Number of contributors)

2009-02-09 Thread Roland Smeenk

Martin Beckett wrote:
 Can the trac wiki be made user editable on some pages safely?


Most pages were editable, but I suspect that due to the server migration the 
current Wiki is locked.


Martin Beckett wrote:
 
 It says 'I have written these tutorials' but no indication who 'I' is or any 
 contact details.
 


The next line says the tutorials are done by Franclin Foping.

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Re: [osg-users] OSG Books (was: RE: Number of contributors)

2009-02-09 Thread Paul Martz
I'm encouraged to hear that this process works for Python. OSG already has a
wiki, and although there is some documentation present, I'd hardly call it a
community-written book as you appear to be describing.

This is my fear with the OSG Recipes book -- If no one is willing to write
and post documentation to the OSG wiki, will they be willing to write and
submit material for a recipes book? We'll see; Bob and I are still intending
to launch it in the near future.

Paul Martz
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http://www.skew-matrix.com
+1 303 859 9466

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Beckett
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 10:24 AM
To: osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org
Subject: Re: [osg-users] OSG Books (was: RE: Number of contributors)

Could I suggest a wiki cookbook which could then be turned into a printed
book?
This seems to have worked for Python (the O'Reilly Python Cookbook is in
it's 3rd Ed)

Paul's excellent intro book covers getting started and the source provides
the details but there is a need for 'the OSG way to do X' guide.

I can certainly think of a dozen questions which are more community type
answers than strictly programming. eg.
Whats the best way to handle something like a grid which is part of the
scenegraph but not part of the model?
Do I store things like switch/PAT nodes in the file or create them from
scratch when I load it?

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[osg-users] OSG Books (was: RE: Number of contributors)

2009-02-09 Thread Art Tevs

Martin Beckett wrote:
 
 I can certainly think of a dozen questions which are more community type 
 answers than strictly programming. eg.
 Whats the best way to handle something like a grid which is part of the 
 scenegraph but not part of the model?
 Do I store things like switch/PAT nodes in the file or create them from 
 scratch when I load it?
 


There exists already a similar project. It can be found under osghelp.com I 
think articles found there could be somehow used for the book too. Or at least 
for a beginner book ;)

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Re: [osg-users] OSG Books (was: RE: Number of contributors)

2009-02-08 Thread Paul Martz
Hi Umit -- I'd love to write the equivalent of the red book for OSG, and
Bob and I have discussed this at length. We have a couple ideas.
 
The most expensive route would be to sit down and write it, based off of our
OSG course material. This would be very time-consuming. I can tell you from
my experience writing other books that the return on investment is quite
small. I'd want to see outside funding before I started on such a project.
So far no one has stepped forward to fund it. (At some point in the future,
I want to post a book proposal on my web site and a projected cost, kind of
like an open proposal. Maybe someone will hire me to do it.)
 
Another way to fund this might be by selling promotional opportunities to
companies. For example, donate $1000 and get a screenshot from your product
on the cover, donate $5000 and get 5 pages in the book about how your
company is using OSG, etc.
 
Another angle is an OSG Recipes -type of book created from contributed
articles on OSG usage. This would distribute the workload over many people,
and the reward would be a nice bullet point on your resume or CV. Bob and I
announced this project at the last OSG BOF at SIGGRAPH, but we've been
sidetracked from finalizing the details and therefore the project launch is
delayed.
 
Our OSG Reference Manuals have also been derailed (the last was for v2.2)
but I hope we can hit the streets running with v2.8. This is a great
resource, as it's wonderfully organized and presented and the PDF buys you
hyperlinks to related material. However, revenue on these books is also low,
and so far hasn't funded the code comment cleanup that I hoped it would.
Revenue has barely covered production costs.
 
To summarize, books are great resources, I love making them, and lots of
people love them. But if we price them affordably (the QSG PDF is free, for
example), producing them is almost a guaranteed money loser unless you have
external funding.
 
Paul Martz
Skew Matrix Software LLC
http://www.skew-matrix.com http://www.skew-matrix.com/ 
+1 303 859 9466
 

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[mailto:osg-users-boun...@lists.openscenegraph.org] On Behalf Of Ümit Uzun
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 3:08 PM
To: OpenSceneGraph Users
Subject: Re: [osg-users] OSG Books (was: RE: Number of contributors)


Hi Paul,

Thanks for awesome source OSGQSG. But at this point I have a question, do
you or anyone think write official guide for OSG? I mean it is like RedBook,
OrangeBook or like this kind of real standard book about core OSG and/or
other plugins? I think much people really needs top-down approached book
about OSG.

Best Regards.



2009/2/7 Sukender suky0...@free.fr


Thanks Paul,

I didn't thought the Quick Start Guide was so complete. Very nice book.
However, I already know much of what's inside (Well, I guess that's the role
of a Quick Start Guide, eh? ;) )...


Sukender
PVLE - Lightweight cross-platform game engine - http://pvle.sourceforge.net/



Le Sat, 07 Feb 2009 20:27:47 +0100, Paul Martz pma...@skew-matrix.com a
écrit:


 You can get the current version of the Quick Start Guide here:
 http://stores.lulu.com/store.php?fGroupID=2076

 The book's web site (example download, errata, etc) is here:
 http://www.skew-matrix.com/OSGQSG/

 For latest info on our book projects, visit here:
 http://www.osgbooks.com/

 Paul Martz
 Skew Matrix Software LLC
 http://www.skew-matrix.com
 +1 303 859 9466

 -Original Message-
 From: osg-users-boun...@lists.openscenegraph.org
 [mailto:osg-users-boun...@lists.openscenegraph.org] On Behalf Of Sukender
 Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 12:07 PM
 To: OpenSceneGraph Users
 Subject: Re: [osg-users] Number of contributors

 An OSG book free for OSG devs??? Oo
 Where? Where? Where? :)

 Sukender
 PVLE - Lightweight cross-platform game engine -
http://pvle.sourceforge.net/


 Le Sat, 07 Feb 2009 06:54:01 +0100, Wang Rui wangra...@gmail.com a
écrit:

 Hi Paul,

 I'm ready to translate the updated book into Chinese again, if it
 still free for OSG developers. :-)

 Wang Rui
 2009/2/7 Paul Martz pma...@skew-matrix.com

  Hi Robert -- I'm updating the Quick Start Guide for 2.8, and would
 like the most up-to-date number you have for the total number of OSG
 contributors. Currently, I have Over 250 developers contributed to
 OSG v2.0. If you have a more recent number, please post it. Thanks.

 Paul Martz
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Re: [osg-users] OSG Books (was: RE: Number of contributors)

2009-02-08 Thread Ümit Uzun
Hi Paul,

Before I asked this question to you, I can guess the reason of absence
Official OSG Book because of Money :( You are really right, writing book
consuming too much time and effort. And there is not thounds of people who
can interest and buy, so gain can't be enough in limited time as you say to
supply all of effort. But your thinkings are really interesting about
finding outside funds :) I hope you can find as fast as possible. Also I am
waiting OSG Recipes too. Good luck on your long way.

Best Regards.

2009/2/9 Paul Martz pma...@skew-matrix.com

  Hi Umit -- I'd love to write the equivalent of the red book for OSG,
 and Bob and I have discussed this at length. We have a couple ideas.

 The most expensive route would be to sit down and write it, based off of
 our OSG course material. This would be very time-consuming. I can tell you
 from my experience writing other books that the return on investment is
 quite small. I'd want to see outside funding before I started on such a
 project. So far no one has stepped forward to fund it. (At some point in
 the future, I want to post a book proposal on my web site and a projected
 cost, kind of like an open proposal. Maybe someone will hire me to do it.)

 Another way to fund this might be by selling promotional opportunities to
 companies. For example, donate $1000 and get a screenshot from your product
 on the cover, donate $5000 and get 5 pages in the book about how your
 company is using OSG, etc.

 Another angle is an OSG Recipes -type of book created from contributed
 articles on OSG usage. This would distribute the workload over many people,
 and the reward would be a nice bullet point on your resume or CV. Bob and I
 announced this project at the last OSG BOF at SIGGRAPH, but we've been
 sidetracked from finalizing the details and therefore the project launch is
 delayed.

 Our OSG Reference Manuals have also been derailed (the last was for v2.2)
 but I hope we can hit the streets running with v2.8. This is a great
 resource, as it's wonderfully organized and presented and the PDF buys you
 hyperlinks to related material. However, revenue on these books is also low,
 and so far hasn't funded the code comment cleanup that I hoped it would.
 Revenue has barely covered production costs.

 To summarize, books are great resources, I love making them, and lots of
 people love them. But if we price them affordably (the QSG PDF is free, for
 example), producing them is almost a guaranteed money loser unless you have
 external funding.

 Paul Martz
 *Skew Matrix Software LLC*
 http://www.skew-matrix.com
 +1 303 859 9466


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 *From:* osg-users-boun...@lists.openscenegraph.org [mailto:
 osg-users-boun...@lists.openscenegraph.org] *On Behalf Of *Ümit Uzun
 *Sent:* Sunday, February 08, 2009 3:08 PM
 *To:* OpenSceneGraph Users
 *Subject:* Re: [osg-users] OSG Books (was: RE: Number of contributors)

 Hi Paul,

 Thanks for awesome source OSGQSG. But at this point I have a question, do
 you or anyone think write official guide for OSG? I mean it is like RedBook,
 OrangeBook or like this kind of real standard book about core OSG and/or
 other plugins? I think much people really needs top-down approached book
 about OSG.

 Best Regards.


 2009/2/7 Sukender suky0...@free.fr

 Thanks Paul,

 I didn't thought the Quick Start Guide was so complete. Very nice book.
 However, I already know much of what's inside (Well, I guess that's the
 role of a Quick Start Guide, eh? ;) )...

 Sukender
 PVLE - Lightweight cross-platform game engine -
 http://pvle.sourceforge.net/


 Le Sat, 07 Feb 2009 20:27:47 +0100, Paul Martz pma...@skew-matrix.com a
 écrit:

  You can get the current version of the Quick Start Guide here:
  http://stores.lulu.com/store.php?fGroupID=2076
 
  The book's web site (example download, errata, etc) is here:
  http://www.skew-matrix.com/OSGQSG/
 
  For latest info on our book projects, visit here:
  http://www.osgbooks.com/
 
  Paul Martz
  Skew Matrix Software LLC
  http://www.skew-matrix.com
  +1 303 859 9466
 
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  From: osg-users-boun...@lists.openscenegraph.org
  [mailto:osg-users-boun...@lists.openscenegraph.org] On Behalf Of
 Sukender
  Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 12:07 PM
  To: OpenSceneGraph Users
  Subject: Re: [osg-users] Number of contributors
 
  An OSG book free for OSG devs??? Oo
  Where? Where? Where? :)
 
  Sukender
  PVLE - Lightweight cross-platform game engine -
 http://pvle.sourceforge.net/
 
 
  Le Sat, 07 Feb 2009 06:54:01 +0100, Wang Rui wangra...@gmail.com a
 écrit:
 
  Hi Paul,
 
  I'm ready to translate the updated book into Chinese again, if it
  still free for OSG developers. :-)
 
  Wang Rui
  2009/2/7 Paul Martz pma...@skew-matrix.com
 
   Hi Robert -- I'm updating the Quick Start Guide for 2.8, and would
  like the most up-to-date number you have for the total number of OSG
  contributors. Currently, I have Over 250 developers contributed to
  OSG v2.0

Re: [osg-users] OSG Books (was: RE: Number of contributors)

2009-02-08 Thread Paul Martz
I'll add another note about writing a red book for OSG...
 
Writing this book would be a big project, and OSG evolves on a daily basis.
My fear is that the red book would be outdated about the time it hits the
bookstores. This is especially a concern given the recent OSG 3.0
discussion; spending (probably) a year documenting OSG 2.x doesn't make
sense given we're already talking about a new direction for OSG. (I am
updating the QSG for v2.8, however, as it is a short-term project that
should be completed with a minimal investment.)
 
Paul Martz
Skew Matrix Software LLC
http://www.skew-matrix.com http://www.skew-matrix.com/ 
+1 303 859 9466
 

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Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 3:08 PM
To: OpenSceneGraph Users
Subject: Re: [osg-users] OSG Books (was: RE: Number of contributors)


Hi Paul,

Thanks for awesome source OSGQSG. But at this point I have a question, do
you or anyone think write official guide for OSG? I mean it is like RedBook,
OrangeBook or like this kind of real standard book about core OSG and/or
other plugins? I think much people really needs top-down approached book
about OSG.

Best Regards.



2009/2/7 Sukender suky0...@free.fr


Thanks Paul,

I didn't thought the Quick Start Guide was so complete. Very nice book.
However, I already know much of what's inside (Well, I guess that's the role
of a Quick Start Guide, eh? ;) )...


Sukender
PVLE - Lightweight cross-platform game engine - http://pvle.sourceforge.net/



Le Sat, 07 Feb 2009 20:27:47 +0100, Paul Martz pma...@skew-matrix.com a
écrit:


 You can get the current version of the Quick Start Guide here:
 http://stores.lulu.com/store.php?fGroupID=2076

 The book's web site (example download, errata, etc) is here:
 http://www.skew-matrix.com/OSGQSG/

 For latest info on our book projects, visit here:
 http://www.osgbooks.com/

 Paul Martz
 Skew Matrix Software LLC
 http://www.skew-matrix.com
 +1 303 859 9466

 -Original Message-
 From: osg-users-boun...@lists.openscenegraph.org
 [mailto:osg-users-boun...@lists.openscenegraph.org] On Behalf Of Sukender
 Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 12:07 PM
 To: OpenSceneGraph Users
 Subject: Re: [osg-users] Number of contributors

 An OSG book free for OSG devs??? Oo
 Where? Where? Where? :)

 Sukender
 PVLE - Lightweight cross-platform game engine -
http://pvle.sourceforge.net/


 Le Sat, 07 Feb 2009 06:54:01 +0100, Wang Rui wangra...@gmail.com a
écrit:

 Hi Paul,

 I'm ready to translate the updated book into Chinese again, if it
 still free for OSG developers. :-)

 Wang Rui
 2009/2/7 Paul Martz pma...@skew-matrix.com

  Hi Robert -- I'm updating the Quick Start Guide for 2.8, and would
 like the most up-to-date number you have for the total number of OSG
 contributors. Currently, I have Over 250 developers contributed to
 OSG v2.0. If you have a more recent number, please post it. Thanks.

 Paul Martz
 *Skew Matrix Software LLC*
 http://www.skew-matrix.com
 +1 303 859 9466


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[osg-users] OSG Books (was: RE: Number of contributors)

2009-02-07 Thread Paul Martz
You can get the current version of the Quick Start Guide here:
http://stores.lulu.com/store.php?fGroupID=2076

The book's web site (example download, errata, etc) is here:
http://www.skew-matrix.com/OSGQSG/

For latest info on our book projects, visit here:
http://www.osgbooks.com/

Paul Martz
Skew Matrix Software LLC
http://www.skew-matrix.com
+1 303 859 9466

-Original Message-
From: osg-users-boun...@lists.openscenegraph.org
[mailto:osg-users-boun...@lists.openscenegraph.org] On Behalf Of Sukender
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 12:07 PM
To: OpenSceneGraph Users
Subject: Re: [osg-users] Number of contributors

An OSG book free for OSG devs??? Oo
Where? Where? Where? :)

Sukender
PVLE - Lightweight cross-platform game engine - http://pvle.sourceforge.net/


Le Sat, 07 Feb 2009 06:54:01 +0100, Wang Rui wangra...@gmail.com a écrit:

 Hi Paul,

 I'm ready to translate the updated book into Chinese again, if it 
 still free for OSG developers. :-)

 Wang Rui
 2009/2/7 Paul Martz pma...@skew-matrix.com

  Hi Robert -- I'm updating the Quick Start Guide for 2.8, and would 
 like the most up-to-date number you have for the total number of OSG 
 contributors. Currently, I have Over 250 developers contributed to 
 OSG v2.0. If you have a more recent number, please post it. Thanks.

 Paul Martz
 *Skew Matrix Software LLC*
 http://www.skew-matrix.com
 +1 303 859 9466


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