Re: [osg-users] OSG Scriptable Plugin for Firefox
Rafa Gaitan wrote: Hi Luigi, On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 1:26 AM, Luigi Calori l.cal...@cineca.it wrote: Great to hear there is someone else who is going along this (tiring) path... I had the impression that web apps was a topic with little appealing in this community: maybe after Google Earth plugin,O3D, Unity and WebGL web 3d will be considered even here Is your project going to be released on open source license? Yes, we are planning to made it public with the OSGPL license. We also want to submit it as an OSG example, so others could improve it and make the port to other platforms, or even do a kind of NodeKit for web thoughts?. Well... i have no idea of how you have arranged the build system, I have used cmake for almost all the step: configuring: (finding needed deps ), building, some testing and the packing (xpi building). So my setup is more a kind of an external project, using OSG.. I am not sure such a project could be packed as an OSG example In that case, I' ll be glad to cooperate. Nice! :) We have worked on ffox plugin since quite a long time, mainly on windows, as this platform is by far the most attractive for web browser app,: both for number of users as well as for ease of deployment (building cross distrib linux binaries was quite difficult sic) did not found an easy way of building distribution neutral linux binaries and it seem even you got some problems, at least on my amd64 kububtu 9, it does not seem to work... sic We only tested on ubuntu 32 bits, not a 64 bits build yet. Yes, deploy a firefox plugin on linux is a crazy task, we deployed the linux version with OSG(2.9.7) compiled in static, and it gave us lots of problems (OSG files are not able to load, and so on), but at least we have a first version working. In my tests I used standard .so deployment, as in windows... I have an old version deployed at http://3d.cineca.it/storage/OSG4Web_test/Linux/test.html Being it old, it has set up the max version in the install set up to 3.0.x, I' ll let you know as soon as I have a newer one. Did you used npruntime for javascript wrapping? When we started our www,virtualrome.it effort, npruntime was not available, but now it seem the right way to go. Leo could answer you better to this question! :). I'm waiting... I see your plugin is running in the same process as FFox, this means that a crash on the plugin crashes also FFx itself. For this reason we are experimenting with separate process (a la Google Earth plugin ) mmh interesting, I'll tell Leo study this too. You can see example here: http://muvi.cineca.it/3d/sites/muvi/3d.html?Plug=simple_runprocessExe=osg_embed_viewer_2Core=FunCoreURL=http://muvi.cineca.it/3d/sites/muvi/model_30_new/top_ti_eo.ive click on Mostra 3d click on Install osg4web_t...@cineca.it http://3d.cineca.it/storage/OSG4Web_test/downloads/Windows/update_osg4web_t...@cineca.it_0.0.1.3_.xpi click on Allow in upper right tab click on install now in the extension popup it should download the extension OSG Viewer Firefox Plugin 0.0.1.3 I think it would really be good to join effort on this topic. On my side, I keep my work in a bazaar repo: if interested, check it out doing bzr checkout http://3d.cineca.it/storage/bazaar_repo/BrowserEmbed/test_merge/ Thank you very much, I also think joining efforts will be a good path, but I also think if we upload a version to OSG repository then comunity will also help us, of course if Robert agree with us. I think we could try to leverage some Distrributed Code Revision Tools (Git, Mercurial, Bazaar) for this stage of this project: It seem to me that the current policy for OSG submission are too much cumbersome, and i do not think we need to change anything in OSG, just use it In the next days we will prepare a osgfirefox example to submit as a basis, then we can think in a more generic nodekit for web, so other browser could be included. In this regard I have found really interesting the FireBreath project ( http://code.google.com/p/firebreath/ ) I have not really used it yet, just did some early testing, and it seem able to provide good framework for building cross-browser support under windows And it is CMake based too ;-) Best regards Luigi ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] OSG Scriptable Plugin for Firefox
Hi Jason, We just tested on Ubuntu still pending to make it work in others distributions. Best Regards ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] OSG Scriptable Plugin for Firefox
Leonardo Salom Muñoz wrote: In this example we show how to change the viewer background color by accessing the color variable of the plugin and assigning a new color to it. The plugin will take charge of all the internal operations needed to manage the background color via javascript calls (eg.onchange=pluginobj.col=colorpick.value). Sounds cool. I wish it worked ;-) It seems that the dependent libraries are a bit outdated on RHEL 5. Not a big deal, just letting you know in case you want to try and support it. --J ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] OSG Scriptable Plugin for Firefox
Leonardo Salom Muñoz wrote: Hi all, I am glad to announce that we have published a preliminary version of our scriptable plugin for Firefox[1]. We are currently developing a Firefox plugin which shows 3D objects in a web. It uses OpenSceneGraph to set up the render canvas. Moreover the plugin also features scripting capacities based on NPAPI technology that allow access to the plugin functions and variables from web application itself. Great to hear there is someone else who is going along this (tiring) path... I had the impression that web apps was a topic with little appealing in this community: maybe after Google Earth plugin,O3D, Unity and WebGL web 3d will be considered even here Is your project going to be released on open source license? In that case, I' ll be glad to cooperate. We have worked on ffox plugin since quite a long time, mainly on windows, as this platform is by far the most attractive for web browser app,: both for number of users as well as for ease of deployment (building cross distrib linux binaries was quite difficult sic) did not found an easy way of building distribution neutral linux binaries and it seem even you got some problems, at least on my amd64 kububtu 9, it does not seem to work... sic Did you used npruntime for javascript wrapping? When we started our www,virtualrome.it effort, npruntime was not available, but now it seem the right way to go. We run some experiment on Linux porting but not done scripting yet. I see your plugin is running in the same process as FFox, this means that a crash on the plugin crashes also FFx itself. For this reason we are experimenting with separate process (a la Google Earth plugin ) You can see example here: http://muvi.cineca.it/3d/sites/muvi/3d.html?Plug=simple_runprocessExe=osg_embed_viewer_2Core=FunCoreURL=http://muvi.cineca.it/3d/sites/muvi/model_30_new/top_ti_eo.ive click on Mostra 3d click on Install osg4web_t...@cineca.it http://3d.cineca.it/storage/OSG4Web_test/downloads/Windows/update_osg4web_t...@cineca.it_0.0.1.3_.xpi click on Allow in upper right tab click on install now in the extension popup it should download the extension OSG Viewer Firefox Plugin 0.0.1.3 I think it would really be good to join effort on this topic. On my side, I keep my work in a bazaar repo: if interested, check it out doing bzr checkout http://3d.cineca.it/storage/bazaar_repo/BrowserEmbed/test_merge/ Regards Luigi ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] OSG Scriptable Plugin for Firefox
Hi Luigi, On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 1:26 AM, Luigi Calori l.cal...@cineca.it wrote: Great to hear there is someone else who is going along this (tiring) path... I had the impression that web apps was a topic with little appealing in this community: maybe after Google Earth plugin,O3D, Unity and WebGL web 3d will be considered even here Is your project going to be released on open source license? Yes, we are planning to made it public with the OSGPL license. We also want to submit it as an OSG example, so others could improve it and make the port to other platforms, or even do a kind of NodeKit for web thoughts?. In that case, I' ll be glad to cooperate. Nice! :) We have worked on ffox plugin since quite a long time, mainly on windows, as this platform is by far the most attractive for web browser app,: both for number of users as well as for ease of deployment (building cross distrib linux binaries was quite difficult sic) did not found an easy way of building distribution neutral linux binaries and it seem even you got some problems, at least on my amd64 kububtu 9, it does not seem to work... sic We only tested on ubuntu 32 bits, not a 64 bits build yet. Yes, deploy a firefox plugin on linux is a crazy task, we deployed the linux version with OSG(2.9.7) compiled in static, and it gave us lots of problems (OSG files are not able to load, and so on), but at least we have a first version working. Did you used npruntime for javascript wrapping? When we started our www,virtualrome.it effort, npruntime was not available, but now it seem the right way to go. Leo could answer you better to this question! :). I see your plugin is running in the same process as FFox, this means that a crash on the plugin crashes also FFx itself. For this reason we are experimenting with separate process (a la Google Earth plugin ) mmh interesting, I'll tell Leo study this too. You can see example here: http://muvi.cineca.it/3d/sites/muvi/3d.html?Plug=simple_runprocessExe=osg_embed_viewer_2Core=FunCoreURL=http://muvi.cineca.it/3d/sites/muvi/model_30_new/top_ti_eo.ive click on Mostra 3d click on Install osg4web_t...@cineca.it http://3d.cineca.it/storage/OSG4Web_test/downloads/Windows/update_osg4web_t...@cineca.it_0.0.1.3_.xpi click on Allow in upper right tab click on install now in the extension popup it should download the extension OSG Viewer Firefox Plugin 0.0.1.3 I think it would really be good to join effort on this topic. On my side, I keep my work in a bazaar repo: if interested, check it out doing bzr checkout http://3d.cineca.it/storage/bazaar_repo/BrowserEmbed/test_merge/ Thank you very much, I also think joining efforts will be a good path, but I also think if we upload a version to OSG repository then comunity will also help us, of course if Robert agree with us. In the next days we will prepare a osgfirefox example to submit as a basis, then we can think in a more generic nodekit for web, so other browser could be included. Cheers, Rafa. -- Rafael Gaitán Linares Instituto de Automática e Informática Industrial http://www.ai2.upv.es http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com Ciudad Politécnica de la Innovación Universidad Politécnica de Valencia ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
