Dynamics consultants

[David Connors via ozdotnet]

Hi All,

Does anyone know any Dynamics (CRM and Sales and Marketing addons / modules
specifically) consultants or contractors who they rate highly?

We're looking at moving off our existing ERP at Codify and onto the
Microsoft stack. Need someone to help us set things up best practice. We
are highly geo/timezone flexible.

David Connors
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Re: [OT] Windows Server install problems

[David Connors via ozdotnet]

Just put the server in a vm on win11. All your problems will go away.

David Connors
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On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 at 10:17 am, Greg Keogh via ozdotnet <
ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:

> They took a lot of device support out of server along the way and that is
>> when I stopped running it in my laptop. I'd install windows 11 and turn on
>> hyper v and run server in a vm
>>
>
> I guess this means I must shop around for a hardware combination (or a
> whole box) that specifically runs the latest Windows servers. The price of
> that is worrying, and I need do the research. I've been lucky for the last
> 20 years because old work PCs could be rebranded as home servers without
> any hiccups at all -- *Greg*
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Re: [OT] Windows Server install problems

[David Connors via ozdotnet]

They took a lot of device support out of server along the way and that is
when I stopped running it in my laptop. I'd install windows 11 and turn on
hyper v and run server in a vm

David Connors
da...@connors.com // +61 417 189 363


On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 at 16:32, Greg Keogh via ozdotnet 
wrote:

> Folks, it's been a non-TGIF day. My old server under the desk running
> Server 2019 (or 2016 I forget) died this morning and I'm trying to create a
> replacement
>
> I have a brand new *one of these*
> <https://www.ple.com.au/Products/665032/ple-midnight-gtx-1650-prebuilt-ready-to-go-gaming-pc>,
> so I installed Server 2019 and it all went smoothly until it booted and all
> chipset devices are dead, including the network adapter and the screen is
> stuck at SGA. The only drivers I can find are for Windows 7 to 11 and
> nothing else.
>
> I tried installing 2016 as an experiment but it produces the same results.
>
> Am I wasting my time? Is that box incapable of running recent Windows
> Server editions?
>
> *Thanks, Greg*
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Re: Private Apple App distribution

[David Connors via ozdotnet]

Yeah you can use testflight to distribute betas and set up an enterprise
area in the app store for your own enterprise apps to be distributed to
enterprise enrolled devices.

Not the same as sideloading a random executable though and you're still
subject to Apple's review process etc.

On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 at 16:22, Dr Greg Low via ozdotnet <
ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:

> Are you in the Apple Developer program? I’m guessing there might be a test
> option there.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> Dr Greg Low
>
>
>
> 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile
>
> SQL Down Under | Web: https://sqldownunder.com
> 
>  |
> About Greg:  https://about.me/greg.low
> 
>
>
>
> *From:* Greg Keogh via ozdotnet 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 17, 2024 4:46 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet 
> *Cc:* Greg Keogh 
> *Subject:* Re: Private Apple App distribution
>
>
>
> So you're all telling me that there is no "side load" feature for iPhone
> apps?! This is a dreadful obstacle to getting the app onto company staff
> phones. Luckily I have an Apple account that was recently renewed (for 150
> goddamn $), but I'll have to fill-in all the store compliance documentation
> and make keys and fumble through their cryptic alien processes, and so on
> and on. Goddammit again.
>
>
>
> *GK*
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Re: Private Apple App distribution

[David Connors via ozdotnet]

The Pro and Pro Max do, the others don't.



On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 at 15:35, mike smith via ozdotnet 
wrote:

> They're not even doing full speed USB C iirc
>
> We've come full circle: remember db25 connections, the only thing standard
> was the connector.
>
> Mike
>
> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024, 15:45 David Connors via ozdotnet, <
> ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:
>
>> Yeah they did for iPhone 15 - still sell the old ones with Lightning, and
>> most headphones, and mice, and trackpads, and probably other things.
>>
>> I love how Apple used the argument that they didn't want to be forced to
>> do it because it would stifle innovation - meanwhile they're selling
>> lightning that runs at USB 2.0 speeds while the rest of the planet has
>> moved on.
>>
>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 at 15:08, mike smith via ozdotnet <
>> ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Didn't the Euros make them go to USB C?
>>>
>>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024, 15:31 David Connors via ozdotnet, <
>>> ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am sure other countries will jump on board once the technical
>>>> precedence has been set.
>>>>
>>>> Apple can be very stubborn in holding on to old/dumb ideas. They're
>>>> still selling stuff with lightning connector in 2024.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 at 14:12, mike smith via ozdotnet <
>>>> ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So the "way" will be to use a VPN, and set your Apple devices up in
>>>>> Europe?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm wondering if any other countries will jump on board.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024, 14:29 Dr Greg Low via ozdotnet, <
>>>>> ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Interesting that there’s been a discussion going on with the EU about
>>>>>> this. They’re insisting that Apple allow “side-loading” of apps. In
>>>>>> response, Apple has apparently said they’re splitting their app store 
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> one for EU, and one for the rest of the world.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dr Greg Low
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SQL Down Under | Web: https://sqldownunder.com
>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__sqldownunder.com_=DwMFAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=2rgtwrXggQFZiZbisdwDooYFalucb-vLhjG0McaanBZKn0UVuognuHqfHnjp2AVc=I23jyX4AKIv9q2x7A3CQAer9PGCjq8R6DwW7BE1IAhZ1JbigKMrMPRCjs6AqW7h3=o3oFliHztOF8D9Nbqaa7KQdqC-zkQNXWl4IqnEG58Wc=>
>>>>>>  |
>>>>>> About Greg:  https://about.me/greg.low
>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__about.me_greg.low=DwMFAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=2rgtwrXggQFZiZbisdwDooYFalucb-vLhjG0McaanBZKn0UVuognuHqfHnjp2AVc=I23jyX4AKIv9q2x7A3CQAer9PGCjq8R6DwW7BE1IAhZ1JbigKMrMPRCjs6AqW7h3=NsAibgiqfCxsyc8m2DBKogKQcs3OqE3mkyCjmpoYxTk=>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Greg Keogh via ozdotnet 
>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 17, 2024 2:46 PM
>>>>>> *To:* ozDotNet 
>>>>>> *Cc:* Greg Keogh 
>>>>>> *Subject:* Private Apple App distribution
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We're planning a MAUI app to be installed on company Android and
>>>>>> Apple phones. For Android I can just generate the APK file and side-load 
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> (after the security settings are relaxed). I don't know how to do the 
>>>>>> same
>>>>>> for iPhones. We don't want the app in the store. Assuming there is a
>>>>>> convention for "side-loading" Apple apps, what's the technique? Is anyone
>>>>>> doing this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A few years ago we published a Xamarin app, but it was for the public
>>>>>> and was published in both stores. This time the app's private to the
>>>>>> company.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Greg Keogh*
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Re: Private Apple App distribution

[David Connors via ozdotnet]

Yeah they did for iPhone 15 - still sell the old ones with Lightning, and
most headphones, and mice, and trackpads, and probably other things.

I love how Apple used the argument that they didn't want to be forced to do
it because it would stifle innovation - meanwhile they're selling lightning
that runs at USB 2.0 speeds while the rest of the planet has moved on.

On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 at 15:08, mike smith via ozdotnet 
wrote:

> Didn't the Euros make them go to USB C?
>
> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024, 15:31 David Connors via ozdotnet, <
> ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:
>
>> I am sure other countries will jump on board once the technical
>> precedence has been set.
>>
>> Apple can be very stubborn in holding on to old/dumb ideas. They're still
>> selling stuff with lightning connector in 2024.
>>
>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 at 14:12, mike smith via ozdotnet <
>> ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> So the "way" will be to use a VPN, and set your Apple devices up in
>>> Europe?
>>>
>>> I'm wondering if any other countries will jump on board.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024, 14:29 Dr Greg Low via ozdotnet, <
>>> ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Interesting that there’s been a discussion going on with the EU about
>>>> this. They’re insisting that Apple allow “side-loading” of apps. In
>>>> response, Apple has apparently said they’re splitting their app store with
>>>> one for EU, and one for the rest of the world.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Greg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dr Greg Low
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile
>>>>
>>>> SQL Down Under | Web: https://sqldownunder.com
>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__sqldownunder.com_=DwMFAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=2rgtwrXggQFZiZbisdwDooYFalucb-vLhjG0McaanBZKn0UVuognuHqfHnjp2AVc=I23jyX4AKIv9q2x7A3CQAer9PGCjq8R6DwW7BE1IAhZ1JbigKMrMPRCjs6AqW7h3=o3oFliHztOF8D9Nbqaa7KQdqC-zkQNXWl4IqnEG58Wc=>
>>>>  |
>>>> About Greg:  https://about.me/greg.low
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Greg Keogh via ozdotnet 
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 17, 2024 2:46 PM
>>>> *To:* ozDotNet 
>>>> *Cc:* Greg Keogh 
>>>> *Subject:* Private Apple App distribution
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Folks,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We're planning a MAUI app to be installed on company Android and Apple
>>>> phones. For Android I can just generate the APK file and side-load it
>>>> (after the security settings are relaxed). I don't know how to do the same
>>>> for iPhones. We don't want the app in the store. Assuming there is a
>>>> convention for "side-loading" Apple apps, what's the technique? Is anyone
>>>> doing this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A few years ago we published a Xamarin app, but it was for the public
>>>> and was published in both stores. This time the app's private to the
>>>> company.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> *Greg Keogh*
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Re: Private Apple App distribution

[David Connors via ozdotnet]

I am sure other countries will jump on board once the technical
precedence has been set.

Apple can be very stubborn in holding on to old/dumb ideas. They're still
selling stuff with lightning connector in 2024.

On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 at 14:12, mike smith via ozdotnet 
wrote:

> So the "way" will be to use a VPN, and set your Apple devices up in Europe?
>
> I'm wondering if any other countries will jump on board.
>
> Mike
>
> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024, 14:29 Dr Greg Low via ozdotnet, <
> ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:
>
>> Interesting that there’s been a discussion going on with the EU about
>> this. They’re insisting that Apple allow “side-loading” of apps. In
>> response, Apple has apparently said they’re splitting their app store with
>> one for EU, and one for the rest of the world.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>>
>> Dr Greg Low
>>
>>
>>
>> 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile
>>
>> SQL Down Under | Web: https://sqldownunder.com
>> 
>>  |
>> About Greg:  https://about.me/greg.low
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Greg Keogh via ozdotnet 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 17, 2024 2:46 PM
>> *To:* ozDotNet 
>> *Cc:* Greg Keogh 
>> *Subject:* Private Apple App distribution
>>
>>
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>>
>>
>> We're planning a MAUI app to be installed on company Android and Apple
>> phones. For Android I can just generate the APK file and side-load it
>> (after the security settings are relaxed). I don't know how to do the same
>> for iPhones. We don't want the app in the store. Assuming there is a
>> convention for "side-loading" Apple apps, what's the technique? Is anyone
>> doing this?
>>
>>
>>
>> A few years ago we published a Xamarin app, but it was for the public and
>> was published in both stores. This time the app's private to the company.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> *Greg Keogh*
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Re: [OT] Contracting PAYG vs ABN

[David Connors via ozdotnet]

You should seek advice from a chartered accountant but briefly, if more
than 50% of your income comes from your own personal efforts then just go
with PAYG.

You're being asked this question because the ATO etc does not like people
who are individual employees behaving as if they're companies when all
they're doing is working full time for one employer.

On Mon, 11 Dec 2023 at 13:31, Tom P via ozdotnet 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I’m getting asked by a recruiter whether I want to do PAYG or use a
> personal ABN for a contracting position. I never really understood why one
> would use an ABN as you’d need to get your own insurances etc. Can anybody
> explain?
>
> Cheers
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Re: AEC form

[David Connors via ozdotnet]

I didn't think the government was handing IBM any more contracts ...

On Fri, 15 Sept 2023 at 19:39, Dr Greg Low via ozdotnet <
ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:

> It almost makes sense but there was no visible control on the form saying
> that. And after fixing the captcha error and resubmitting, it just worked.
> So the other one wasn't an error anyway.
>
> Bizarre.
>
> Regards
>
> Greg
>
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> *Sent:* Friday, September 15, 2023 7:32:04 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet 
> *Cc:* Dr Greg Low 
> *Subject:* AEC form
>
> Whoever develops code for the AEC really needs to take a long hard look at
> themselves. Second error is the Captcha failing even though it didn't ask
> for it in the first place. It wasn't visible on the form.
>
> And I'm not sure what attempt at English the other error is meant to be.
>
> Does anyone review this?
>
> Regards
>
> Greg
>
> Dr Greg Low
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Re: Blazor popularity and use

[David Connors via ozdotnet]

On Fri, 8 Sept 2023 at 13:44, Dr Greg Low  wrote:

> Yep, we talk about browsers like there’s consistency there. There still
> isn’t. And it’s a huge hit on productivity. I see so much lost effort
> trying to align pixels across different browsers, different versions of
> browsers, etc. It’s just silly.
>
>
>
> I remember being on a web app project. I was doing the data bits, and
> there were 10 devs doing the web parts.
>
>
>
> After 6 months, I looked at what the other 10 had produced and knew I
> could have built that myself in a winform app in a fortnight, by myself.
>

This is probably more down to approach. If they were building from scratch
by themselves, then I agree, productivity will be terrible; however on the
flip side, you have to remember that 80+% of the cost of software is after
the code is written and in the support phase. For our internal apps, we use
a commercial off the shelf theme and a couple of other components and stick
with those. The consistency of UI layout, responsiveness across form
factors etc is all done very cost effectively by using something like:
https://angular-material.fusetheme.com/dashboards/project - best $700
you'll ever spend.

If ease of development was our primary concern we would all be building
Microsoft Access apps.
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Re: Blazor popularity and use

[David Connors via ozdotnet]

On Fri, 8 Sept 2023 at 13:30, Greg Keogh  wrote:

> Sure, deploying a web app to a server is easier than distributing thick
> client updates to many recipients, but that's a lucky side-effect. I stand
> by my claim that the web browser is a woefully inadequate host for business
> applications.
>

Pretty much every application is delivered on the web these days.

Even popular thick client apps are just web technologies built into a
binary. Looking over what I have open at the moment: Safari, Edge, Azure
Data Studio (built on electron), Teams (built on react), Discord (built on
electron), Microsoft TODO (???), Word/Excel/PPTX (C++/PAL).

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Re: Blazor popularity and use

[David Connors via ozdotnet]

On Fri, 8 Sept 2023 at 12:06, Greg Keogh via ozdotnet 
wrote

> I must end on a sad note. ASP.NET, Blazor, JS, or whatever, all finish-up
> rendering in a web browser. It's tragic that the ancient dumb web browser
> is now the only host for web apps, and that we must attempt to present
> serious business applications using HTML, CSS and JS. The web browser was
> invented so we could have flame wars and look at pictures of cats and porn,
> it's barely evolved since then and it's completely inadequate for rendering
> business applications. Sure it can, but look at the flaming hoops and all
> the weird quirks you have to jump through. Web development is in a
> lamentable state.
>

You have a short memory of what it was like deploying apps back when thick
clients were the only option. Modern web has done more to streamline ops
than anything else and reduced application deployment to pushing code to an
app service and end-user deployment to pasting a link in an e-mail or IM.
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Re: Blazor popularity and use

[David Connors via ozdotnet]

The only places I've ever heard of Blazor being used is .
microsoft.com and this mailing list.

We do Angular exclusively and see a lot of it in the wild from other dev at
our client sites.



On Fri, 8 Sept 2023 at 12:30, DotNet Dude via ozdotnet <
ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:

> I find it very hard to believe Blazor demand has overtaken JS. That’s an
> insane comment from Adam
>
> On Fri, 8 Sep 2023 at 12:05, Greg Keogh via ozdotnet <
> ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:
>
>> Is anyone here actively using Blazor on a decent sized project? I used it
>>> for a while on my last contract but am unable to find new work anywhere
>>> that uses Blazor, not a single one!
>>
>>
>> Compared to server-side ASP.NET and JS Frameworks, Blazor is a gift from
>> heaven .. well ... sort-of. Here's a Friday story.
>>
>> With the death of Silverlight, we had to replace an app with a quite rich
>> UI with something else, what?! Like many people, I was spitting chips angry
>> at the suggestion we must replace our Silverlight apps with HTML5 apps. The
>> idea that HTML+CSS+JS could replace a WPF-like rich web UI made me laugh
>> and cry at the same time.
>>
>> Angular was really popular around 2018 so we got an offer to write a JS
>> replacement for $200/hr. I then decided to learn Angular and watched 5
>> hours of a 10 hour Angular course, at which point I gave up and said f**k
>> that s**t. Now what?
>>
>> Luckily, Blazor 0.9 was in preview around this time. I spent a whole
>> Sunday afternoon experimenting with Blazor. By the end of the day I had
>> quite a sophisticated hobby app working with only a few hundred lines of
>> coding, thanks to the familiarity of using VS, C# and Razor markup (with a
>> bit of JS). The same app in ASP.NET would have taken 5 times as long and
>> 5 times the code. The same app in Angular would have required unfamiliar
>> tooling and millions of lines of script.
>>
>> To answer your question, I have one quite complex Blazor app being used
>> by some huge US companies to analyse marketing data (using Telerik and
>> SpreadJS components to attempt to make charts and grids as fancy as was
>> possible in Silverlight). I have a couple of smaller apps in live use, and
>> few little ones for utility use.
>>
>> I know the guys at Melbourne App Development
>>  are really keen on Blazor and
>> were using it for some serious apps just as it reached version 1.0. About
>> 18 months ago, Adam Cogan at SSW said during the preamble to one of their
>> monthly presentations, that Blazor demand had overtaken JS.
>>
>> I hope other people in here have similar stories.
>>
>> I must end on a sad note. ASP.NET, Blazor, JS, or whatever, all
>> finish-up rendering in a web browser. It's tragic that the ancient dumb web
>> browser is now the only host for web apps, and that we must attempt to
>> present serious business applications using HTML, CSS and JS. The web
>> browser was invented so we could have flame wars and look at pictures of
>> cats and porn, it's barely evolved since then and it's completely
>> inadequate for rendering business applications. Sure it can, but look at
>> the flaming hoops and all the weird quirks you have to jump through. Web
>> development is in a lamentable state.
>>
>> *Greg Keogh*
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Re: A real C++ vs C# story

[David Connors via ozdotnet]

I have never understood the fixation with C++ unless you're in the business
of writing kernels, device drivers, embedded systems, etc.

On Fri, 1 Sept 2023 at 08:44, Greg Keogh via ozdotnet 
wrote:

> Folks, it's Friday and I have an anecdote to share before I return to
> today's coding fiasco. I'll just tell you what happened and try to avoid
> making judgements, I'll leave that to you.
>
> For about 4 years we've had an Azure hosted Web API/service driving a
> moderately complex Blazor app and some other smaller clients. The service
> hosted a C++ library that did the heavy lifting of generating
> cross-tabulation reports. The trouble was, that the service would randomly
> crash deep inside the C++ dll and it would leave no useful diagnostic
> evidence, usually just a hint about some kind of memory access violation.
> It would never crash in testing, only in Azure. I presume here is a way to
> diagnose this sort of crash in Azure hosting, but you probably need the
> minidump and symbol files out of the C++ compile, I'm not exactly sure, as
> I just couldn't face the toil, and by great luck it was due for replacement
> anyway. Some very large US companies were suffering from the crash
> interruptions and there was a serious risk that we could lose their
> business.
>
> The lucky part is that the huge C++ codebase was already being rewritten
> in C#, so we went into a frenzy of continued conversion and testing, and
> the C# replacement is now about 90% rolled-out. and guess what?! ... The
> random crashes are gone and one customer even sent us a message of thanks
> for the new reliability.
>
> We did have a few small unhandled exceptions, but I simply went to the
> Azure portal logs and the stack trace pointed us straight to the problem
> point. We could usually publish a fix within half an hour.
>
> So years of random C++ crashes were completely cured by a C# rewrite.
>
> *Greg K*
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Re: [OT] Junked business registry overhaul blew out by $2.3b

[David Connors via ozdotnet]

On Tue, 29 Aug 2023 at 16:01, Dr Greg Low via ozdotnet <
ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:

[...]

 We just can’t keep doing this.
>

Oh, yes we can.
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Re: [OT] VPN

[David Connors]

Are you using google apps / workspace still? It is terrible.

On Fri, 24 Mar 2023 at 4:31 pm, Stephen Price via ozdotnet <
ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:

> Had a quick look for Google One.
> It asked me to switch to my personal Google account, I get this:
>
> Sign in with your personal account You're currently signed in to your
> Workspace Account. To access Google One, switch to your personal Google
> Account. So yet again I discover I can't use Google products because I'm
> paying for a different, incompatable, Google Product. (which lets be honest
> they are more than likely going to sunset if I look at it wrong)
>
> Checking the Plans for Google One, it looks like the Premium plan gives up
> to five shared member access, and the VPN product. Does not seem to be on
> any other plans, just the Premium.
>
> Oh lovely, looking at what else you get for the Google One Premium plan,
> is Google Workspace Premium. That does not seem right as I'm on Google
> Workspace (formerly G-suite) and that's the one I have all kinds of
> problems with. ie not able to use Family Plans on it...
> I went with this originally soley so I could use my own domain name.
>
> Do any of the Google One plans by chance allow your own domain names or is
> that still restricted to their crippled Business account plans?
>
> Honestly, if there were not a few core products that I do actually use,
> I'd migrate to something less broken.
> I'm pretty sure i'm not the only one here with this G-Suite pain, I've
> seen it mentioned here before.
>
> cheers,
> Stephen
>
>
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> *From:* David Connors via ozdotnet 
> *Sent:* Friday, 24 March 2023 12:51 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet 
> *Cc:* David Connors 
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] VPN
>
> I have google one for the family. Pretty cheap for the storage etc and it
> includes a vpn.
>
> On Thu, 23 Mar 2023 at 11:44 am, Grant Maw via ozdotnet <
> ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:
>
> I use ProtonVPN. They are very good and price is reasonable.
>
> Recommended.
>
> G
> On 23/3/23 09:45, Tom P via ozdotnet wrote:
>
> Hi folks
>
> Any current recommendations for a VPN provider? I procrastinated on this
> but would like to get one now after some privacy updates by my ISP that I
> interpret as bad news.
>
> NordVPN still ok? Any new recommendations?
>
> Cheers
> Tom
>
> On Thu, 14 Oct 2021 at 23:40, Grant Castner 
> wrote:
>
> I have been using NordVPN for a couple of years now with no issues
>
> Dr Grant Castner
> BCom(Hons) LLB(Hons) PhD
> 0458 770 749
> http://twitter.com/grantcastner
> https://au.linkedin.com/in/grantcastner
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> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com  on
> behalf of Tom P 
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 14, 2021 7:53:09 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet 
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] VPN
>
> Is the speed ok with Proton? Reviews indicate speed is not as good as Nord
> for example.
>
>
> On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 at 19:30, Grant Maw  wrote:
>
> Using Proton. Paid version. Very happy with it, works on Linux, PC and my
> Android tablet.
>
> Has never let me down, has plenty of endpoints etc
> On 13/10/21 4:41 pm, Tom P wrote:
>
> Hi folks
>
> What VPN provider are some of you using at home and are happy with? There
> are many and mixed reviews. ExpressVPN, Nord… etc.
>
> Cheers
> Tom
>
> --
> Thanks
> Tom
>
> --
> Thanks
> Tom
>
> --
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Re: [OT] VPN

[David Connors]

I have google one for the family. Pretty cheap for the storage etc and it
includes a vpn.

On Thu, 23 Mar 2023 at 11:44 am, Grant Maw via ozdotnet <
ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:

> I use ProtonVPN. They are very good and price is reasonable.
>
> Recommended.
>
> G
> On 23/3/23 09:45, Tom P via ozdotnet wrote:
>
> Hi folks
>
> Any current recommendations for a VPN provider? I procrastinated on this
> but would like to get one now after some privacy updates by my ISP that I
> interpret as bad news.
>
> NordVPN still ok? Any new recommendations?
>
> Cheers
> Tom
>
> On Thu, 14 Oct 2021 at 23:40, Grant Castner 
> wrote:
>
>> I have been using NordVPN for a couple of years now with no issues
>>
>> Dr Grant Castner
>> BCom(Hons) LLB(Hons) PhD
>> 0458 770 749
>> http://twitter.com/grantcastner
>> https://au.linkedin.com/in/grantcastner
>> --
>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com  on
>> behalf of Tom P 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 14, 2021 7:53:09 PM
>> *To:* ozDotNet 
>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] VPN
>>
>> Is the speed ok with Proton? Reviews indicate speed is not as good as
>> Nord for example.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 at 19:30, Grant Maw  wrote:
>>
>> Using Proton. Paid version. Very happy with it, works on Linux, PC and my
>> Android tablet.
>>
>> Has never let me down, has plenty of endpoints etc
>> On 13/10/21 4:41 pm, Tom P wrote:
>>
>> Hi folks
>>
>> What VPN provider are some of you using at home and are happy with? There
>> are many and mixed reviews. ExpressVPN, Nord… etc.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Tom
>>
>> --
>> Thanks
>> Tom
>>
>> --
>> Thanks
>> Tom
>>
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Re: [OT] APNIC charges for historical resources

[David Connors]

You should be able to sell the /24 for $15-20 bucks an IP so I'd just pay
the fee then get a broker to market it for you and flog it off if you're
not using it.

On Wed, 1 Mar 2023 at 12:55, Greg Keogh  wrote:

> Your replies have confirmed the situation. I didn't realise a IPv4
> hunt-and-reclaim was going on, and now they've found me, and I can't get
> off their radar, and they call the shots, and I'll have to roll over and
> give-up the range I used to own. If I don't join and pay then the range
> apparently becomes "disabled" from any use. So you have no choice but to
> surrender (or just hang on to the dead C block out of spite). If it cost
> $15 a year to keep the range then I'd pay (it's not even worth that), but
> *$500* !
>
> In any other case I would call this theft and extortion.
>
> *Greg K*
>
> On Wed, 1 Mar 2023 at 13:35, Dr Greg Low via ozdotnet <
> ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:
>
>> Yep, the major ISPs ran out of IPv4 space ages ago. I note that I can no
>> longer get an v4 IP when using any mobile service that has Telstra
>> underneath it. And of course that’s a world of entertainment for systems
>> that I need to connect to that have IP v4 allow lists.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m sure they’re mopping up all the class Cs as they can. I’ll bet they
>> did the class B and class A ones ages ago.
>>
>>
>>
>> In the end, whoever owns the routing at the upper levels gets to call the
>> shots.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>>
>> Dr Greg Low
>>
>>
>>
>> 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile
>>
>> SQL Down Under | Web: https://sqldownunder.com | About Greg:
>> https://about.me/greg.low
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* David Connors via ozdotnet 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 1 March 2023 1:29 PM
>> *To:* ozDotNet 
>> *Cc:* David Connors 
>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] APNIC charges for historical resources
>>
>>
>>
>> Greg,
>>
>>
>>
>> Historical objects were always free but they made you bring them into a
>> paid basis whenever you needed additional IP space or a new AS number or
>> something. That happened to us years ago. Once you're on that train you
>> can't get off.
>>
>>
>>
>> They must be rounding up the stragglers like you. :)
>>
>>
>>
>> David.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 1 Mar 2023 at 07:41, Greg Keogh via ozdotnet <
>> ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:
>>
>> Folks, It's almost Friday...
>>
>>
>>
>> I just received an email from APNIC to tell me that a class C IP block
>> I've owned for 27 years is now under their control and I will be charged
>> $500/year to keep this *historical* resource that was created before
>> APNIC existed. See Maintenance Fee Change
>> <https://help.apnic.net/s/article/historical-fee-change>. Has anyone
>> else received a similar notification?
>>
>>
>>
>> My thoughts were: this is either kidnapping, extortion or a "protection
>> racket", or all three.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm reminded of the 1990s when Melbourne IT were effectively selling the
>> dictionary for a minimum ~$135 per domain name, and special words like
>> "realestate" or "sales" etc were up for the highest bidder at eye-watering
>> prices. Ah, the days of the Internet boom...!
>>
>>
>>
>> I'd like to write an official complaint about APNIC's money-grubbing scam
>> to someone, but who? The ACCC is a toothless tiger. There is a federal
>> ombudsman, but would APNIC be on their radar?
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> *Greg K*
>>
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Re: [OT] APNIC charges for historical resources

[David Connors]

Greg,

Historical objects were always free but they made you bring them into a
paid basis whenever you needed additional IP space or a new AS number or
something. That happened to us years ago. Once you're on that train you
can't get off.

They must be rounding up the stragglers like you. :)

David.

On Wed, 1 Mar 2023 at 07:41, Greg Keogh via ozdotnet 
wrote:

> Folks, It's almost Friday...
>
> I just received an email from APNIC to tell me that a class C IP block
> I've owned for 27 years is now under their control and I will be charged
> $500/year to keep this *historical* resource that was created before
> APNIC existed. See Maintenance Fee Change
> . Has anyone else
> received a similar notification?
>
> My thoughts were: this is either kidnapping, extortion or a "protection
> racket", or all three.
>
> I'm reminded of the 1990s when Melbourne IT were effectively selling the
> dictionary for a minimum ~$135 per domain name, and special words like
> "realestate" or "sales" etc were up for the highest bidder at eye-watering
> prices. Ah, the days of the Internet boom...!
>
> I'd like to write an official complaint about APNIC's money-grubbing scam
> to someone, but who? The ACCC is a toothless tiger. There is a federal
> ombudsman, but would APNIC be on their radar?
>
> Cheers,
> *Greg K*
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Fwd: Fw: [Announcements] Mailman3.com servers upgrade

[David Connors]

FYI.

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*To:* announceme...@mailman3.com 
*Subject:* [Announcements] Mailman3.com servers upgrade

Dear Mailman3.com users!

In the last few days, all the servers have been upgraded to the latest code.

The upgrade is aligned with the latest releases of the Mailman 3
components, see
https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/docs/NEWS.html
https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/postorius/en/latest/news.html
https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/hyperkitty/en/latest/news.html

If you experience glitches in the Postorius/Hyperkitty UI, please perform a
hard refresh of the page in your browser.

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Re: Platform x64 argument

[David Connors]

How's x64 emulation going on Windows on ARM these days? Last time I looked
it was garbage.


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On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 at 14:30, Dr Greg Low via ozdotnet <
ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:

> Yes, I was wondering the same thing David. I can’t recall the last time I
> worked on a 32 bit machine.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> Dr Greg Low
>
>
>
> 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile
>
> SQL Down Under | Web: https://sqldownunder.com | About Greg:
> https://about.me/greg.low
>
>
>
> *From:* David Kean via ozdotnet 
> *Sent:* Thursday, 13 October 2022 3:13 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet 
> *Cc:* Greg Keogh ; David Kean  >
> *Subject:* RE: Platform x64 argument
>
>
>
> Do you actually support/ship your app to run on x86-only or ARM
> environments? If not, it probably doesn’t matter and I would probably give
> this one and save the battles for other things.
>
>
>
> *From:* Greg Keogh via ozdotnet 
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 13, 2022 9:46 AM
> *To:* ozDotNet 
> *Cc:* Greg Keogh 
> *Subject:* Platform x64 argument
>
>
>
> Folks, one of my colleagues insists on compiling everything as platform
> x64 mainly because he thinks "it's an x64 world and it creates a better
> impression". For a year I've tried to convince him that for managed code
> that it's a complete waste of time. I've told him that ildasm.exe shows
> that for x64 and AnyCPU the generated IL and the manifests are identical, I
> even told him that dumpbin.exe shows the only non trivial difference in the
> PE headers is a couple of flags that show x86/x64 and PE32/PE32+, but they
> don't affect the loading and running of a PE containing IL and metadata.
>
>
>
> Does anyone have paradigm-shattering evidence I can give my colleague to
> break his habit? (I'm hoping I'm right of course!!)
>
>
>
> *Greg*
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Re: Blazor deploy error

[David Connors]

This thread was held up in moderation because of the size of it. I've
changed the limit on the server to 2meg per message up from the 1meg I had.
Mailman ships with 20KB per message as the limit... reminds me of the
quaint old days of the internet in the early 90s when people would tear you
a new one for wasting bandwidth by having an e-mail signature that was too
big.

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On Wed, 13 Jul 2022 at 09:15, Dr Greg Low via ozdotnet <
ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:

> That’s cute.
>
>
>
> However, even that doesn’t work now when so many errors returned to UIs
> only include a GUID that’s unique to that instance of the error.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> Dr Greg Low
>
>
>
> 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile
>
> SQL Down Under | Web: https://sqldownunder.com | About Greg:
> https://about.me/greg.low
>
>
>
> *From:* mike smith via ozdotnet 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 6 July 2022 2:03 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet 
> *Cc:* mike smith 
> *Subject:* Re: Blazor deploy error
>
>
>
> I kinda like .DMP files, especially if I've got a matching set of pdb
> files to match it.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 6 July 2022, 12:57 Dr Greg Low via ozdotnet, <
> ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:
>
> https://blog.greglow.com/2018/02/13/opinion-theres-plague-need-stop/
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> Dr Greg Low
>
>
>
> 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile
>
> SQL Down Under | Web: https://sqldownunder.com | About Greg:
> https://about.me/greg.low
>
>
>
> *From:* Greg Keogh via ozdotnet 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 6 July 2022 12:43 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet 
> *Cc:* Greg Keogh 
> *Subject:* Re: Blazor deploy error
>
>
>
> After hours of ruling out a mistake on my part, or some change in the
> compile and hosting options, the only thing left is the tooling. Adjusting
> my searches slightly and haphazardly, I finally stumbled upon this post
> <https://github.com/dotnet/sdk/issues/26061> from a few weeks ago.
>
>
>
> Some are blaming spaces in paths, maybe, but I'm using SDK 6.0.301 which
> people are blaming for introducing this problem. There are some angry
> comments.
>
>
>
> I downloaded and installed SDK 6.0.5 with 6.0.300, then ran the command dotnet
> new globaljson --force --sdk-version 6.0.300 which creates a
> global.json file as suggested. Clean project, rebuild, now it deploys.
>
>
>
> The hours of suffering I wasted on this is apparently caused by some bug
> in the donet command, which someone says will be fixed 6.0.2.
>
>
>
> I'm shitting bricks and spitting chips, because here we are in 2022 and we
> get error messages like *An error has occured* with not the slightest
> clue anywhere about what has gone wrong. In the early 1980s we used to get
> mainframe messages like "JDE833 Program aborted", but even then I could
> look up the error in a manual and do something useful. Is this progress?!
>
>
>
> *Greg K*
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Re: [OT] C++ Stupidity and Delusion

[David Connors]

I was doing some reading last night about Rust - https://www.rust-lang.org/
- mainly prompted by the fact that Linus Torvalds has now said that they
will introduce Rust code into the Linux kernel. It will be interesting to
see how this progresses - I've never heard of anyone doing kernel/device
driver level type development in anything other than assembly, C or C++.

Rust's claim to fame is C-like performance but with memory safety and no
garbage collector.

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On Fri, 24 Jun 2022 at 10:18, Greg Keogh via ozdotnet 
wrote:

> It's Friday and I promised to turn the heat up in the kitchen again and
> stir the possums. The text below is pasted from my latest Blog Post
> <https://gfkeogh.blogspot.com/2022/06/c-stupidity-and-delusion.html>. I
> can't apologise for what I say, I'm really angry about this -- *Greg
> Keogh*
>
> ___
>
> C++ Stupidity and Delusion
>
> I recently returned to writing C++ after a 17-year gap and I have
> concluded that C++ has become the stupidest language in contemporary common
> use and fans of the language are living in some form of mass delusional
> insanity.
>
> When I wrote C++ from about 1993 to 2003 it was basically "C with Classes"
> and it claimed to guide you away from C spaghetti code into the superior
> and trendy OOP world of software development. That claim was generally
> fulfilled, but I often found myself creating classes that didn't need to
> exist, and there was always the risk of creating "spaghetti classes". *It's
> worth noting that opinions of OOP have not aged well and web searches for
> "OOP sucks" or "OOP is bad" will produce some withering criticism.*
>
> Upon returning to C++ after a long absence, I am shocked and angered by
> what I have found. Several major enhancements over the decades have added
> so many features to the language with so much syntax that it looks like an
> unstoppable academic research project that went out of control and became a
> joke. And ironically, the community using the language don't seem to
> realise they're part of the joke.
>
> I have recently watched lots of videos about C++, and the ones taken at
> conventions are the most worrying because people like Bjarne and Herb come
> on stage and are cheered like heroes by an audience that uncritically
> drools over upcoming C++ features that are discussed in great detail. What
> makes me both angry and incredulous is that most of the recently added and
> upcoming C++ features are either making the language more and more complex,
> or they are features that have been built-in to other popular programming
> languages for a lifetime.
>
> Languages like Java and C# have had parallelism, reflection, networking
> support, UI designers, modules and much more for decades, but here we are
> in the far distant science fiction future of 2022 and the C++ committees
> are only now proposing to add these features that are vital for software
> development. C++ is so far behind the ecosystem of other modern languages
> that it's another joke they don't get, and they continue to blindly cram
> the language with more libraries and syntax stolen from other languages to
> try and keep it up to date with its modern contemporaries.
>
> Writing C++ is so staggeringly complex that I need cheat-sheets always
> open, and sometimes I must Google search on how to write every line of code
> correctly. As a result, my C++ coding speed often hovers at around 10 to 20
> lines of code per hour. It took me 3 solid days of hair-tearing suffering
> to find a library that made REST web service calls, compile it, and make it
> work. A colleague took two days to get a zip library working and at one
> point he said, "lucky I don't live near a cliff". Both of those tasks could
> be coded in a few lines of a modern language in less than a minute.
>
> Have a look at the Working Draft <https://eel.is/c++draft/> or the C++
> Reference <https://en.cppreference.com/> to get a feel for the
> astonishing complexity of C++. There are countless videos online as well
> that discuss all of the frightening traps and tricks of C++ coding and how
> to use the huge list of language features correctly (see Jason Turner's
> videos <https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=C%2B%2B+Jason+Turner>).
> The complexity of C++ creates a huge learning hurdle for even the most
> skilled developer who could require up to a year of intensive experience to
> become an expert.
>
> C++ doesn't have a public library system (like packages
> <https://www.nuget.org/> or crates <https://crates.io/>), the

Re: [OT] Google Workspace free edition ending soon

[David Connors]

On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 at 21:39, DotNet Dude via ozdotnet <
ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:

> I had a few bounce backs from the list peior to David’s mailman update so
> sending this again in case people didn’t receive it…
>
> Some good news here about google workspace free edition. Google are now
> offering you to continue with the free version if not used for business
> purposes. You just need to opt out of the upgrade.
>

I ended up moving my Google photos, and other things out of my Workspace
and into a normal @gmail account.

So much Google stuff just doesn't work against Workspace accounts - like
sharing resources for Google Home with other people etc.

I'd like to move all my data out of workspace but Google takeout is
useless. It exports incomplete data into an arbitrary XML format and there
is no way to re-import the data anywhere on the other end.

Re: ozdotnet - New List Infrastructure

[David Connors]

Yeah it has been a while.

The old stanski list imploded one day and kept sending messages out of
order or days/weeks late and that went on for ages and never got fixed.
Turned out to be the fault of some hoster who stuck their hand up to look
after the list but didn't.

Back then we were using GFI Mail Essentials for our anti-spam for Exchange
and it had a list server built into it so I offered that as a solution and
it worked great for years until it imploded just as I went on site to build
out the TechEd infrastructure (might have been TE2010?)... so we re-built
on MM2 and that server ran great for 10 years.

Recently it started having bounce issues that was threatening unsubscribes.
It was so old it wasn't worth investigating so I looked for hosted provided
and signed us up for mailman3.com.

So far these guys have been great. Very responsive support and help in
setting everything up. Should be good for another 10 years. lol

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On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 at 12:25, Greg Keogh via ozdotnet 
wrote:

> Looks like he’s in Edinburgh now.
>>
>> Latest post:
>>
>>
>>
>> in alternito land, the basic life form is not human or animal but a
>> business. mating is a one-way operation of selling goods or services. upon
>> your birth, your business plan is registered on
>>
>> [cut]
>
> Holy schmoley! I may be a slightly better programmer than I am clinical
> psychologist, but I think he needs his prescription changed -- *Greg (K)*
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Re: ozdotnet - New List Infrastructure

[David Connors]

Richard Carde was a huge help today getting all the DMARC nonsense correct
and tested.

I just shut down the VM that has been sitting on a NUC in the corner of the
office since we moved to Azure years ago. 

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On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 at 15:18, David Burstin via ozdotnet <
ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:

> Thanks David for all the work you do to keep this list going. Really
> appreciated.
>
> On Tue, 21 Jun 2022, 14:34 David Connors via ozdotnet, <
> ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I've readded everyone to the new mailman3 hosted environment. There are a
>> few changes to how message headers are presented etc as a result of the
>> move to mailman3.
>>
>> If you want to change your subscription etc then head to
>> https://codify.mailman3.com.
>>
>> I am not going to continue keeping the old archives at
>> http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman and will bin that server as soon
>> as I've removed the other lists from it that no one uses any more.
>>
>> David Connors
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New list infra

[David Connors]

Hi there,

I've subscribed half a dozen of people to the new list infrastructure for a
bit of testing. Please reply when you see this.

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Re: Testing GTG

[David Connors]

I think so. I'll add a few users.

On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 at 11:20 am, Richard Carde via ozdotnet <
ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:

> Looks like it's good to go??
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Re: Testing from EOL

[David Connors]

Testing via gapps.

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>
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Testing new list infra

[David Connors]

Testing the new list infra.

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New list server infrastructure testing

[David Connors]

Hi All,

I’m moving the list to new infrastructure. If you’ve got the time and
inclination (and expertise with SMTP, DMARC, SPF, etc) and wouldn’t mind
helping out testing the new infrastructure before we cut over, I’d
appreciate it.

The old list server is based on a years old build of mailman 2. I’ve not
had the time to rebuild it on Azure (Linux kernel version isn’t supported)
and I’m a bit suss on how we would go for email delivery reliability out of
Azure as it isn’t particularly supported.

Anyway, so I’ve just bought us a dedicated server from mailman3.com which
using all of the latest bits and pieces.

I’ve set up a test list ad...@codify.mailman3.com. If you can dedicate a
few hours to testing / debugging over the next few days please subscribe:
https://codify.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/

We just need to shake down this SaaS thing I’ve bought and see what sort of
deliverability issues there are etc. Once we’re happy I’ll just subscribe
everyone to the new infrastructure and it will be business as usual from
then on.

David.
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Re: [OT] Ping ACK NUL SYN

[David Connors]

Got it. It did come through as spam though. :|

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On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 at 11:11, Greg Keogh  wrote:

> Tom thinks the list is dead. A quick test from me...
>
> *Greg K*
>

Re: [OT] Google Workspace free edition ending soon

[David Connors]

I just wish they would offer a way to port data from a gsuite account to a
gmail one.

Google takeout is bullsh1t. "here is a proprietary XML file, GLHF"

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On Fri, 27 May 2022 at 20:50, DotNet Dude  wrote:

> Some good news here. Google are now offering you to continue with the free
> version if not used for business purposes. You just need to opt out of the
> upgrade.
>
> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 at 11:49, Tom Rutter  wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Some of you may know the free edition of Google Workspace is ending soon
>> and we are now forced to upgrade to a paid version. I only set this up over
>> 10 years ago as it was free and allowed me to have a custom domain for
>> private use. I only use it for emails.
>>
>> Is anybody here in a similar position and planning to move away to
>> another service? Any recommendations? I simply wish to keep my emails, in
>> their current folder / label structure, and custom domain name.
>>
>> I assume one option is to connect my local Outlook to gmail and download
>> all my emails and then upload them to another service? Could take a while -
>> I have like 10GB of emails.
>>
>> Cheers
>> -- Tom
>>
>

Re: [OT] Atlassian SourceTree

[David Connors]

On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 at 2:31 pm, Dr Greg Low  wrote:

> The other day I had a half page of unhandled exception from Confluence.
> Apparently I should have realised it meant the password I entered didn't
> meet its complexity rules.
>
> I love to see a local company like Atlassian doing so well but whenever I
> use their software, I keep having "emperor's new clothes" moments.
>

I agree.

I don't get why so many people like confluence. It is where information
goes to die.
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Re: Xamarin Forms xcode and Mac

[David Connors]

Not sure about the dependencies but I bought the kids a macmini M1 for
about a grand. Craps all over my top of the line Lenovo X1 carbon which
cost considerably more. I'm probably jumping ship to one of the next
MacBook Pros being released next week ...

On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 at 5:09 pm, Greg Keogh  wrote:

> Folks, I'm creating a brand new Forms app to target Android and iOS. I
> have VS2019 for Mac and all the packages are fully updated (I hope) so I'm
> developing on the latest versions of everything.
>
> The Android app has passed the sanity check and I sideloaded it via App
> Centre (but not the Play Store because I still can't find a way of finding
> the app that is in *Internal Testing* mode).
>
> The iOS app however is telling me that Xcode 12.4 is selected and 13.0 or
> later is required for this Xamarin.iOS. Now I'm stuffed because Xcode 13
> requires macOS 11.3+ and I'm running 10.15.7. I have hit the Mac update
> limit and no more updates are available for me, perhaps due to my July 2015
> vintage Mac. Here's the tricky question with a chain of dependencies...
>
> *Do I need a new Mac with the latest macOS so I can run Xcode 13 so I can
> develop Xamarin Forms iPhone apps in VS2019 for Mac?*
>
> If this is true, then others here must have hit the same wall and will be
> very confused and angry. A new iMac will cost as much as a Fiji holiday.
>
> Maybe there's a way of reducing the version dependencies somehow so I can
> make iPhone apps with my current setup.
>
> *Greg K*
>
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Re: [OT-ish] IIS win auth for different domains

[David Connors]

Do users in domaina and domainb normally access resources in each other's
domains using their main account?

If so, there is a trust in place.

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On Thu, 9 Sept 2021 at 08:09, Tom Rutter  wrote:

> I tried the steps in the stackoverflow link but I cannot see the domainb
> users from the security permissions in domaina. I'm not familiar with the
> trust issues so perhaps I need to pass this onto a sysadmin to advise.
>
> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 2:44 PM Preet Sangha  wrote:
>
>> Just a quick google came up with this
>>
>> https://forums.iis.net/t/1153075.aspx
>>
>> Which talks about ensuring that the domains trust each other first.
>>
>> Also, this alludes to what I think you're doing...
>> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/25988437/configure-iis-authentication-from-another-domain
>>
>> regards,
>> Preet, in Auckland NZ
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 8 Sept 2021 at 15:19, Tom Rutter  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi folks
>>>
>>> I have an older web app sitting in IIS and it uses win auth. The IIS
>>> server is in domainA. Is it possible for users in domainB to get
>>> authenticated and access the app? I haven't had any luck. My google
>>> research has made me very confused.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>

Re: An interesting change of direction by MS

[David Connors]

We have a lot of customers already there with AVD - which is an interesting
value prop with paying for the resources you use. One of the surprisingly
few clear use cases for cloud elasticity.

Apparently Windows 11 runs on the Raspberry PI too - interesting $ entry
point for an AVD client if it runs okay.

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On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 at 19:13, Tom Rutter  wrote:

> Probably the same will be said about Windows in general down the road.
> We’ll probably just have our whole OS somewhere in the cloud and we’ll just
> “remote” to it from our laptops.
>
> On Sat, 10 Jul 2021 at 17:18, David Connors  wrote:
>
>> SQL Server of Linux has been out for a while and I think it was shortly
>> after it was released that it was shown to outperform on Linux compared to
>> Windows Server on the same hardware.
>>
>> When you're selling cloud like we the $ story for Windows Server isn't
>> great these days ... on a larger virtual machine the Windows Server license
>> is a BIG chunk.
>>
>> With the earnest move to PaaS and SaaS and things like AAD instead of AD,
>> I'm not sure what the value prop of Windows Server is any more - apart from
>> running legacy software.
>>
>> David Connors
>> da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363
>> Telegram: https://t.me/davidconnors
>> LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 10 Jul 2021 at 17:02, mike smith  wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.sqlservercentral.com/?na=v=43198-5c996ba084cea=1013
>>>
>>> Are they ceding the server market to Linux?
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>

Re: [OT] Reliable external storage drive

[David Connors]

Get an enclosure and put something from Sandisk in it.

On Wed, 30 Jun 2021 at 10:41 am, Tom Rutter  wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> Another of my recently purchased external SSD drives has just died on me.
> Can anyone here recommend one they have and are happy with? Ideally I would
> like it to last a few years at the very least. The last few I have bought
> haven't gone longer than 6 months. I don't write to it much, mainly for
> backups of photos and videos every few months.
>
> --Tom
>
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Re: [OT] Google Workspace with expired domain

[David Connors]

Try and remove the domain and see what happens. IIRC workspace comes with a
temporary domain.

On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 at 11:51 am, Tom Rutter  wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I have an old Google Workspace (formerly Google GSuite / Google or
> Business / Google Apps *for Free*) linked to a domain that will soon
> expire. I do not wish to renew the domain. Can anybody here confirm whether
> the existing accounts and emails in the Google Workspace will remain and
> operate as normal? I only need these old emails "just in case" one day.
>
> I was unable to confirm this via Google help center.
>
> -- Tom
>
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Re: [OT] Credit check for new contract

[David Connors]

You need to network more. It is not uncommon for our customers to ask us if
we know a dev, pm etc and I refer on people I know.

Also get out to user groups ... Companies often stick their hand up at them
saying they're hiring.

On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 at 9:40 pm, Tom P  wrote:

> If not recruiters, where do you start looking for work? Personally I’ve
> found it very difficult to find work but obviously many factors are
> involved.
>
> Cheers
> Tom
>
>
> On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 at 21:25, Tony Wright  wrote:
>
>> Yea I get that. That's why I said it depends who's at the other end. Tbh
>> I'm pretty sick of recruiters. They are a dime a dozen. I think at one
>> stage about 20% of my linked list was recruiters. My thinking was that I
>> might need them one day. But I have culled them significantly, down to a
>> few remaining agents that I believe add value. I don't often start with
>> recruiters when I'm looking for work, they take too much of a cut for
>> adding very little value.
>>
>> On Wed, 2 Jun 2021, 9:17 pm DotNet Dude,  wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Tony,
>>>
>>> Tom’s original question was about the recruiter asking for this info
>>> which is quite different from the bank you’re working for. Financial
>>> institutions do ask for the things you mention but I’d be suspicious and
>>> hesitant to pass info like that to a silly old recruiter.
>>>
>>> I’ve never been comfortable with systems like WorkPro, particularly with
>>> credit files, which they let you just download as a PDF so the recruiter
>>> can easily forward. Not cool at all.
>>>
>>> The whole recruitment model and the systems they use really needs a
>>> revamp to protect user privacy and security. I’m not convinced they are
>>> secure.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 at 20:33, Tony Wright  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Really? At the bank I have had sign over a right for them to receive
>>>> every contact note for any shares I buy or sell. I also have to submit
>>>> requests to buy or sell shares. That's an Apra requirement. I'm also not
>>>> allowed to have directorships in more than one company, and it has to be an
>>>> approved directorship. So it really does depend on who it is and what it
>>>> means to you. A credit check to ensure that you aren't susceptible to
>>>> bribery might be reasonable too depending on who it is. If it's some random
>>>> numpty, sure, tell them to get stuffed, but some places really do need
>>>> extra checks on their staff.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 2 Jun 2021, 8:25 pm David Connors,  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Personally, I'd decline given the circumstances you've described. It
>>>>> would be like asking for this information from an employee and
>>>>> inappropriate if not probably illegal in the context of an FTE.
>>>>>
>>>>> David Connors
>>>>> da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363
>>>>> Telegram: https://t.me/davidconnors
>>>>> LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 at 19:20, Tom P  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes as an individual contractor so I did find it very odd. I’ve asked
>>>>>> for a reason so let’s see what they come back with.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 at 19:06, David Connors  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you're doing this as an individual contractor on a work for hire
>>>>>>> / hourly basis then this is pretty strange.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Even as a company, we almost always decline disclosure of financial
>>>>>>> information on the basis that we're privately held and send whoever is
>>>>>>> asking a letter of solvency from our tax accountants instead (they just
>>>>>>> want to know we're not going to go bust - but that's a very strange
>>>>>>> consideration if you're an individual contractor).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David Connors
>>>>>>> da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363
>>>>>>> Telegram: https://t.me/davidconnors
>>>>>>> LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 at 18:32, Tom P  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi folks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For the experienced contractors here who may know...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am in the process of starting a new contract and the recruitment
>>>>>>>> agent has requested access to my credit file (via WorkPro). Is this 
>>>>>>>> normal?
>>>>>>>> I’ve only had one contract in the past and the credit check was not 
>>>>>>>> done
>>>>>>>> AFAIK.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My credit file is clean so that’s not an issue but it contains
>>>>>>>> sensitive information such as my credit card limits, etc, so I’m 
>>>>>>>> hesitant
>>>>>>>> to release it unless absolutely necessary.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any info would be appreciated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>> --
> Thanks
> Tom
>
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Re: [OT] Credit check for new contract

[David Connors]

Personally, I'd decline given the circumstances you've described. It would
be like asking for this information from an employee and inappropriate if
not probably illegal in the context of an FTE.

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On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 at 19:20, Tom P  wrote:

> Yes as an individual contractor so I did find it very odd. I’ve asked for
> a reason so let’s see what they come back with.
>
> Cheers
> Tom
>
> On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 at 19:06, David Connors  wrote:
>
>> If you're doing this as an individual contractor on a work for hire /
>> hourly basis then this is pretty strange.
>>
>> Even as a company, we almost always decline disclosure of financial
>> information on the basis that we're privately held and send whoever is
>> asking a letter of solvency from our tax accountants instead (they just
>> want to know we're not going to go bust - but that's a very strange
>> consideration if you're an individual contractor).
>>
>> David Connors
>> da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363
>> Telegram: https://t.me/davidconnors
>> LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 at 18:32, Tom P  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi folks
>>>
>>> For the experienced contractors here who may know...
>>>
>>> I am in the process of starting a new contract and the recruitment agent
>>> has requested access to my credit file (via WorkPro). Is this normal? I’ve
>>> only had one contract in the past and the credit check was not done AFAIK.
>>>
>>> My credit file is clean so that’s not an issue but it contains sensitive
>>> information such as my credit card limits, etc, so I’m hesitant to release
>>> it unless absolutely necessary.
>>>
>>> Any info would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Tom
>>>
>> --
>>> Thanks
>>> Tom
>>>
>> --
> Thanks
> Tom
>

Re: [OT] Credit check for new contract

[David Connors]

If you're doing this as an individual contractor on a work for hire /
hourly basis then this is pretty strange.

Even as a company, we almost always decline disclosure of financial
information on the basis that we're privately held and send whoever is
asking a letter of solvency from our tax accountants instead (they just
want to know we're not going to go bust - but that's a very strange
consideration if you're an individual contractor).

David Connors
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Telegram: https://t.me/davidconnors
LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors



On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 at 18:32, Tom P  wrote:

> Hi folks
>
> For the experienced contractors here who may know...
>
> I am in the process of starting a new contract and the recruitment agent
> has requested access to my credit file (via WorkPro). Is this normal? I’ve
> only had one contract in the past and the credit check was not done AFAIK.
>
> My credit file is clean so that’s not an issue but it contains sensitive
> information such as my credit card limits, etc, so I’m hesitant to release
> it unless absolutely necessary.
>
> Any info would be appreciated.
>
> Cheers
> Tom
> --
> Thanks
> Tom
>

DNN skills

[David Connors]

Does anyone on the list have good DNN skills?

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Re: [OT] Intel NUCs

[David Connors]

On Sat, 8 May 2021 at 10:39 am, Greg Keogh  wrote:

> Maybe David's idea is worth a try, but how do I clone the metal Win2016 DC
> into a VM?
>
>> We bought a really high end Lenovo workstation laptop to run our lab ...
Same issue ... Windows server barely runs on it. No driver support. Etc.
Anyway just put win10 on it and run the lab VMS in hyper v.  No dramas.
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Re: [OT] Intel NUCs

[David Connors]

On Sat, 8 May 2021 at 8:57 am, Greg Keogh  wrote:

> Just put windows 10 on it. Enable hyper v and run server in a VM.
>>
>
> I was already one level deep. The Win2016 DC hosts a Hyper-V VM running
> Win2019 with SQL2019 and IIS -- *Greg*
>

So just run those workloads on win10 hyper v?

> --

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Re: [OT] Intel NUCs

[David Connors]

Just put windows 10 on it. Enable hyper v and run server in a VM.

On Fri, 7 May 2021 at 7:01 pm, Greg Keogh  wrote:

> TGIF Folks, my Domain Controller under the desk is running on a 12 year
> old box with 3 metal drives and whirring fans. I decided last weekend to
> replace it with something modern, small and quiet. My local shop was
> selling various NUCs which look pretty cool and Sci-Fi, so I bought a
> NUC10i3 with 16GB RAM. It's low-end, but fine for the home dev network. Now
> comes the trap hidden in the fine-print...
>
> *Windows 2016 server will not install on the box, nor can it be cloned via
> R-Drive.*
>
> This is actually stated in some Intel product PDFs, but I never thought of
> looking, as it's just Windows and a chipset (I thought!). Apparently it's
> to do with drivers, and some people have apparently found a workaround by
> installing unsigned drivers, but I don't want to do that. Maybe I'll ring
> the shop and negotiate a swap to a NUC9 or 8 which supports servers.
>
> I just mention this in case anyone else falls into the lazy trap.
>
> Any suggestions for the smallest, quietest, cheapest box I can get as a
> low-end server?
>
> *Greg*
>
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Re: Sign-in with social accounts

[David Connors]

If it is a corporate app and in Azure - just go to the App Service and turn
on Easy Auth. One Click. Job Done. We use it everywhere and it is great.

If it is for a large number of users, then follow the advice of others on
this thread.

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On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 at 09:50, kirsten greed  wrote:

> Hi Greg
>
> This might be worth looking into
> https://workos.com/
>
> I listened to
>
> https://softwareengineeringdaily.com/2021/04/05/workos-making-enterprise-ready-apps-with-michael-grinich/?utm_source=rss_medium=rss_campaign=workos-making-enterprise-ready-apps-with-michael-grinich
>
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 9:40 AM djones147  wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> It's fairly straight forward. You register on the provider sire and they
>> supply you with a token. This token you send when you ask for the remote
>> login. And then they redirect to a failed or successful login.
>>
>> So asp.net is fine you have a public return address.
>>
>> With wpf and the ilk you need to redirect to a page on the server and
>> store that success/fail code with an identifier then fetch that back with
>> the client later.
>>
>> Some providers don't send back a provided id. But you can fake this by
>> sending the success/fail to a different url for each user.   Ex a different
>> route for each client.
>>
>> It's not hard to do at all, but can seem like you don't have a handle on
>> it until it all works.
>>
>> Hth Davy.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Galaxy
>>
>>
>>  Original message 
>> From: Greg Keogh 
>> Date: 26/04/2021 00:59 (GMT+01:00)
>> To: ozDotNet 
>> Subject: Sign-in with social accounts
>>
>> Folks, we have some old apps with their own simple credentials databases
>> containing user, password, login count, permissions, etc. They're classic
>> old fashioned systems.
>>
>> Increasing numbers of apps let you sign-in with your Facebook, Google,
>> Microsoft, etc account these days. This is really convenient, and the
>> security burden is taken by someone else.
>>
>> How can our apps participate in a social sign-in option? Has anyone done
>> this? I imagine some terrible obstacles...
>>
>> ? Apps would have to be registered with the various various companies.
>> ? The client apps might be WPF, Xamarin, Blazor or ASP.NET, so how would
>> they hook into the sign-in process.
>> ? Each company might return different types of tokens or even follow
>> different conventions.
>>
>> *Greg K*
>>
>

Re: [OT] UHF Check

[David Connors]

Couple of messages were clogged in the moderation queue because they're too
big apparently.

Do you guys get a notification when your messages are held? I don't pay too
much attention to the notifications as 99.999% are because of
probably spam so I just let them time out.

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On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 at 14:02, Dan Cash  wrote:

> Check.
>
> On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 at 13:19, Greg Keogh  wrote:
>
>> My last 3 posts to this group bounced, and I notified David at Codify,
>> but received no reply. Is the group active? -- *Greg Keogh*
>>
>
>
> --
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> -m. 0411 468 779
> -e. dan.c...@gmail.com
>
> F.A.B. Information Systems Pty Ltd   ABN 16 084 146 261
>
>

Re: Tech Support

[David Connors]

S... can't you re-write your thing as SaaS? And some integrations to
Xero or whatever to justify additional value and increase the price?

I know clubs etc are cash strapped but $10/month is far too cheap.

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On Thu, 28 May 2020 at 20:06, Glen Harvy  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Seems I have led you all astray.
>
> 1. The website is hosted on the end user's own hardware and is used
> globally.
> 2. The website forms a part of a booking system as well as a membership
> management system.
> 3. It is frighteningly cheap with monthly support costs of about AUD$ 10
> per month. I maintain it, not the end user.
> 4. It is aimed at sporting clubs with costs to be the prime consideration
> in its IT purchases. Cost seems to be also a major influence in the
> company's employment considerations.
> 5. It's users almost all enjoy fast internet connections and the response
> times for the website is excellent.
>
> The point of my rare post was to help reveal the trial and tribulations of
> the tech support personnel in your respective businesses. It really was
> intended to get a laugh.
>
> As a matter of interest, the new recruit has again turned their computer
> off when going home tonight.
>
> Of some concern to me is that the website refers to my product.
> Unfortunately, the end users will no doubt expect the continuing web site
> woes to be attributed to my program and as has happened in the past, this
> will be the case put forward by the business.
>
>
> Glen Harvy,
> *Aquarius Communications* <http://www.aquacomm.com.au>
>
>
>
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>

Re: Tech Support

[David Connors]

Can't you re-write your mycourts thing as a SaaS web app and have nothing
on site at all?

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On Thu, 28 May 2020 at 10:30, Glen Harvy  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have had a series of requests for help from a certain company over many
> years in which they have been using my program. The staff member that runs
> the office is not to bright when it comes to the tech side of computers so
> I have generally remained calm when none of my 'suggestions' have been
> heeded.
>
> Over the past few weeks a new staff member has arrived on the scene. I
> don't know if they are a permanent replacement or addition to the team. Nor
> do I know where my usual contact has disappeared to. Nevertheless, I was
> looking forward to perhaps establishing a relationship where 'self-help' at
> the coal face may finally become a reality. Alas, I don't think this will
> come to happen.
>
> Content of emails between me and new team member. This is the full content
> and only a staff members name has been ommitted:
>
> *25th May: Me to client:*
>
> Can you please test your website and ensure that this issue has now been
> fixed.
> You confirmation that it is now working OK will be appreciated.
>
> *25th May: Reply from client:*
>
> wont be able to check until the
> morning.
>
> Are members still able to go online in the meantime as the site can't be
> reached. Let me know, so I can manage their expectations properly.
>
> *25th May: Me to client:*
> Your computer "crashed" at about 5:30 pm last Friday and didn't come back
> into action until about 9:30 am Monday. Hence your website was down. This
> has nothing to do with MyCourts except of course your website was also
> down..
>
> Your computer again "crashed" about 5:30 pm this evening. Again, this has
> nothing to do with MyCourts. As at 6:18 this evening, your computer seems
> to be working OK.
>
> We installed the latest versions of MyCourts this morning and as far as we
> can tell, MyCourts has been working fine since then.
>
> I believe your password for user Staff has been changed. As we need this
> to reboot your computer from time to time, can you please advise us what
> the new password is.
>
> *28th May: No reply so Me to client:*
>
> I am only guessing but I understand your computer is actually a laptop. If
> so, and you are closing the screen down when leaving at night, you are
> locking the machine and nothing is working. Hence your website shuts down
> and our ability to login remotely is disabled. This could be the reason
> your website has been unreachable from about 5:30 pm to 9:30 am weekdays as
> well as all last weekend.
>
> Can you confirm this is the case please.
>
> *28th May: Reply from client:*
>
> Its hosted by a computer at the office. Its a bit concerning that we would
> have to leave the computer running throughout the night for mycourts to
> able to function properly.
>
>
>
> --
>
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>
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Re: [OT] Any dev jobs?

[David Connors]

LinkedIn. The post the link here so people can reshare.

On Tue, 24 Mar 2020, 11:46 pm Tom Gao,  wrote:

> I haven't been coding for 10 years... Surprised that I'm still on this
> list in fact :) I actually don't know where else to blast it to. Any
> suggestions? We're based in syd cbd.
>
> Thanks,
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 11:07 PM David Connors  wrote:
>
>> Tom,
>>
>> It is fantastic that you're offering this in the current climate. You
>> need to blast this out more widely than this list.
>>
>> David.
>>
>> David Connors
>> da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363
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>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 at 22:00, Tom Gao  wrote:
>>
>>> I thought I'd put out there we have 8 FTE positions open if anyone is
>>> interested. 1 support manager, 3 senior support engineers (full stack .net,
>>> sharepoint, biztalk, strong sql), 4 lead developers with architecture
>>> experience. Generous salary, 1 RDO per month on top of annual leave,
>>> government position. Location is in the heart of CBD. Lots of exciting
>>> projects that benefit the community.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 8:33 AM Tom Rutter  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Melbs. I’m assuming remote working would need to be possible given the
>>>> circumstances
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 at 08:18, Steven Parish <
>>>> ste...@businesscraft.com.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Where are you/they based?
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Steven Parish
>>>>> *Managing Director*
>>>>>
>>>>> BusinessCraft Pty Ltd | www.businesscraft.com.au | M: 0417 688 599| T:02
>>>>> 4965  | Level 1, 418-422 Hunter Street, Newcastle, NSW
>>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/418-422+Hunter+Street,+Newcastle,+NSW?entry=gmail=g>
>>>>> 2300
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 at 08:00, Tom Rutter  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We’re about to let go of a few devs. Rather than them going straight
>>>>>> to Centrelink in the current climate I thought checking if any of you 
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> any vacancies that I can pass on. Any help would be appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>

Re: [OT] Any dev jobs?

[David Connors]

Tom,

It is fantastic that you're offering this in the current climate. You need
to blast this out more widely than this list.

David.

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On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 at 22:00, Tom Gao  wrote:

> I thought I'd put out there we have 8 FTE positions open if anyone is
> interested. 1 support manager, 3 senior support engineers (full stack .net,
> sharepoint, biztalk, strong sql), 4 lead developers with architecture
> experience. Generous salary, 1 RDO per month on top of annual leave,
> government position. Location is in the heart of CBD. Lots of exciting
> projects that benefit the community.
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 8:33 AM Tom Rutter  wrote:
>
>> Melbs. I’m assuming remote working would need to be possible given the
>> circumstances
>>
>> On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 at 08:18, Steven Parish 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Where are you/they based?
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Steven Parish
>>> *Managing Director*
>>>
>>> BusinessCraft Pty Ltd | www.businesscraft.com.au | M: 0417 688 599| T:02
>>> 4965  | Level 1, 418-422 Hunter Street, Newcastle, NSW
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/418-422+Hunter+Street,+Newcastle,+NSW?entry=gmail=g>
>>> 2300
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 at 08:00, Tom Rutter  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey folks,
>>>>
>>>> We’re about to let go of a few devs. Rather than them going straight to
>>>> Centrelink in the current climate I thought checking if any of you have any
>>>> vacancies that I can pass on. Any help would be appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>

SaaS integration platforms

[David Connors]

Hi All,

We are looking for a solution to dump our Xero accounts into something
PowerBI can digest.

There are a lot of pretty good looking solutions in the marketplace ...
stitchdata.com, blendo.co ... heaps and heaps of sources and destinations
supported.

Anyone have any experience with any of these or other equivalents?

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Re: Network monitoring

[David Connors]

Add a device under the local probe of www.google.com.au then add a ping
sensor under that.

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On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 12:55, Greg Keogh  wrote:

> Well, it installed 1.4 Gigawatts of 7000+ files and started two Windows
> services. It was well into a astonishingly deep probe of everything on the
> LAN but I stopped it and deleted everything (except 3 sensors that seem
> glued-in).
>
> I created a Ping sensor, but it never asked me what to ping, so it's
> sitting there doing who knows what! Removed it.
>
> I added a HTTP sensor instead for https://whaitsmyipaddress.com/ but it
> gives 403 all the time.
>
> I replaced that with whatsmyip.org and it seems to be going now. I wonder
> if they mind me issuing a GET call every minute from the same place? Is
> there some special Url just for this sort of heartbeat checking?
>
> *GK*
>
>>

Re: Network monitoring

[David Connors]

1. Install on a PC/server that is always on.
2. Go to the local probe
3. Add ping sensors for stuff on the internet (google, etc)
4. Look at graphs

There is a lot more depth to the product but you'll get going pretty
quickly.

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On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 11:51, Greg Keogh  wrote:

>
> PRTG is free for 100 sensors...
>> https://www.paessler.com/howto-free-network-monitoring
>>
>
> That's a nice looking product, but is it using a Synchrotron to heat my
> cup-o-soup? How long will it take to learn to configure it just monitor if
> my NBN connection is off or on? --* GK*
>
>>

Re: Network monitoring

[David Connors]

PRTG is free for 100 sensors...
https://www.paessler.com/howto-free-network-monitoring

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On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 10:51, Greg Keogh  wrote:

>
> I wrote a two line batch script, piped the output to file
>>
>
> Is it something like ping google.com >> log.txt ? You need time stamps in
> the output. I'd have to check at least every minute to get the required
> granularity. I hope one day I have a miraculous cure like you did --* GK*
>
>

OT: Robo Vacs

[David Connors]

Hi All,

Very off topic but what success has anyone had here with robo vacs?

Our 11 month old German Shepherd is blowing her coat and the place is dog
hair central hence the question.

I know a few people who have had them but they've died after a few months
etc. The better ones that can self empty etc seem to be around the $1500
mark - which gets up there in price as we have two floors and they haven't
invented one that climbs stairs yet. :)

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Re: Ping

[David Connors]

The VM was frozen. Gave it a kick in the guts.

This is the last thing we have in prem ... Been meaning to rebuild in azure
... Might have to give that a crack this weekend.

On Sat, 23 Nov 2019, 8:40 am mike smith,  wrote:

> Got one on this:
>
> On Sat, Nov 23, 2019, 07:46 DotNet Dude  wrote:
>
>> Pong. No
>>
>> On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 at 00:44, mike smith  wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone else getting server timeouts?
>>>
>>

Re: [OT] Fines Victoria crisis deepens

[David Connors]

On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 at 11:49, Greg Low  wrote:

> Friend of mine was driving buses in Brisbane. He said when they first
> deployed GoCard, they couldn't get things like sensitivities right. He'd
> drive past a bus stop and it would charge everyone standing there.
>
> We did not need to learn all this again.
>

I have my gocard set up to recharge itself every 50 bucks. I got on the bus
and it was negative balance. The driver said I needed dollars to travel. I
told him I'd just set it up to auto top up online. He said that takes 24-48
hours and if I wanted to travel I needed to get off the bus, go to 7eleven,
and charge it there.

What a fail.

Re: [OT] Fines Victoria crisis deepens

[David Connors]

Dunno how you spend 1.5 bln on an 'off the shelf' solution.

Speaking of IT stuff ups, they just installed NBN in our building in Spring
Hill (CBD Brisbane) last week.

The fibre comes into the building probably 5-6 metres max from the pit.
They pulled the fibre into the MDF which is at the front of the building.
Then they ran the fibre all the way to the back of the building to put the
DSLAM in a store room that is the maximum possible distance from where all
of the copper in the building terminates. Then they ran a bunch of pairs of
copper from the back store room to the front of the building to the MDF so
you can jumper FTTB off that and into the MDF frame. The tray they used to
run the copper from the back of the building to the front has MASSIVE three
phase cables in it that power 6 A/C units. The copper runs exactly parallel
to this for almost entire length of its run. Should be nice for drop outs
when the various compressors kick in / turn off.

There were two guys here for three days doing the job. The FTTB DSLAM is
about the size of a fridge. There are only 8 tenancies in the building.

Everyone in the building already has fibre except for us as we use
microwave that's faster than anything NBN sell anyway - so they should get
zero subscribers.

Your tax dollars hard at work.

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On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 at 09:53, DotNet Dude  wrote:

> Myki is another product bought from overseas I heard. From one of the
> Scandinavian countries I think. Managed by NTTData from memory, could be
> wrong, don’t quote me.
>
> On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 at 10:42, David Connors  wrote:
>
>> Myki in Vic should get a notable mention... ticketing system for trams
>> and trains that was the same price as building sending a couple of
>> Opportunity Rovers to Mars.
>>
>> David Connors
>> da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363
>> Telegram: https://t.me/davidconnors
>> LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 19:50, Grant Maw  wrote:
>>
>>> It's not just Victoria. The QLD government IT projects 9ver recent years
>>> have also been rolled gold catastrophes
>>>
>>> On Wed, 23 Oct. 2019, 11:24 am Greg Keogh,  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Interesting front page article in The Age newspaper today
>>>> <https://www.theage.com.au/politics/victoria/fines-victoria-system-collapses-leaving-massive-hole-in-state-budget-20191022-p5333d.html>
>>>> about a Victorian government IT disaster. IT disasters are routine (I'm
>>>> sure we've all caused a few!) but it's interesting that they actually name
>>>> the software as VIEW from a company called Civica. The article is a bit
>>>> vague about what's actually wrong, it just says "[it] doesn't work", "the
>>>> system was absolute chaos" and systems are not "talking to" their
>>>> computers. Does anyone have inside gossip about what really happened?
>>>>
>>>> There was another vast IT disaster a few years ago related to the
>>>> education system I think, where dodgy contracts were being awarded to
>>>> mates, and I think the loss ran into the hundreds of millions. That story
>>>> vanished from the news and I never found out what happened.
>>>>
>>>> *Greg K*
>>>>
>>>

Re: [OT] Fines Victoria crisis deepens

[David Connors]

Myki in Vic should get a notable mention... ticketing system for trams  and
trains that was the same price as building sending a couple of Opportunity
Rovers to Mars.

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On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 19:50, Grant Maw  wrote:

> It's not just Victoria. The QLD government IT projects 9ver recent years
> have also been rolled gold catastrophes
>
> On Wed, 23 Oct. 2019, 11:24 am Greg Keogh,  wrote:
>
>> Interesting front page article in The Age newspaper today
>> <https://www.theage.com.au/politics/victoria/fines-victoria-system-collapses-leaving-massive-hole-in-state-budget-20191022-p5333d.html>
>> about a Victorian government IT disaster. IT disasters are routine (I'm
>> sure we've all caused a few!) but it's interesting that they actually name
>> the software as VIEW from a company called Civica. The article is a bit
>> vague about what's actually wrong, it just says "[it] doesn't work", "the
>> system was absolute chaos" and systems are not "talking to" their
>> computers. Does anyone have inside gossip about what really happened?
>>
>> There was another vast IT disaster a few years ago related to the
>> education system I think, where dodgy contracts were being awarded to
>> mates, and I think the loss ran into the hundreds of millions. That story
>> vanished from the news and I never found out what happened.
>>
>> *Greg K*
>>
>

Re: [OT] Old MSJ/MSDN cover scans

[David Connors]

Nothing like writing 'network aware programs' using NetBIOS. I installed
something the other day from subscriber downloads that said "Downloading is
finished, you can disconnect from the Internet while installation
continues"...

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On Sat, 5 Oct 2019 at 21:06, David Gardiner  wrote:

> It's great having you around Peter, and I hope there's a little while yet
> before you (or I for that matter) get recycled 
>
> The older I get, the more I appreciate having around me those who've been
> doing this longer than I have.
>
> David
>
>
> On Sat, 5 Oct 2019 at 19:50, Peter Griffith 
> wrote:
>
>> In 1993 on release of VB3, i found myself, with help from GUI Computing's
>> Mark Trescowthick, running AVBUG (Adelaide VB Users Group) which i did for
>> over 20 years. Changed name to ADNUG (Dot Net) around 2000. Had some great
>> times, it was Code Camps then.
>> Dave Gardiner stepped into leadership a cuppla years back and ADNUGs
>> still going great guns.
>>
>> I suppose the content underneath all the covers is available somewhere
>> not that i would want to do anything more than leaf through them more for
>> the nostalgia than horror. My 20 VB4 diskette set has finally gone to
>> ewaste. Guess that's where i'll be going before too much longer.
>>
>> Greg, thanks for the nostalgia
>>
>> PG
>>
>>
>> Peter Griffith CP
>> PH: 0408 832 891
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 5 Oct 2019 at 16:51, Greg Keogh  wrote:
>>
>>> Folks, some of the covers over 25 years old contain articles on subjects
>>> that will fill older readers with nostalgia (or horror) and bewilder the
>>> younger readers. In the early 1990s everything seemed to have OLE in it.
>>> Remember the 'Chicago' project which became Windows 95? June 1995 Borland
>>> Delphi is introduced! In September 2000 we were told to get ready for .NET
>>> (that doesn't seem so long ago).
>>>
>>> http://www.orthogonal.com.au/gallery/covers_msdn.htm
>>>
>>> *Greg K*
>>>
>>

Re: [OT] github "downloads"

[David Connors]

Hi Greg,

I'm not sure about unversioned binaries - but seeing as you're doing a
wholesale move have you looked at Azure DevOps as opposed to Guthub?

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On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 at 19:13, Greg Keogh  wrote:

> Folks, I'm in the process of moving lots of repositories from Bitbucket
> and Mercurial into GitHub. I'm doing this because it was confirmed by
> chatting to people at DDD Melbourne last weekend that I'm living in the era
> of floppy discs and VHS tapes. I can't really argue, because for the last
> year there has been intense advertising of GitHub and Azure DevOps as the
> new development ecosystem, and I am duty-bound to run with it.
>
> Sadly it seems there is no way to import a Mercurial repository into
> GitHub and I must manually create each repo and add the files and lose the
> history. If anyone knows better, please let me know.
>
> But my question is: while migrating wiki pages over to GitHub I fail to
> find any place in the account where I can put miscellaneous un-versioned
> files like images and other binaries. In Bitbucket there is a "downloads"
> folder for this purpose, but is there an equivalent in my GitHub account?
>
> Cheers,
> *Greg K*
>

Re: [OT] 5G

[David Connors]

I'm not sure what the specific health concerns are but there is always a
loonie fringe who whinges about EMF. A lady I used to live next to wouldn't
let her son use the PS4's bluetooth controller because she thought it (and
wifi) would make him infertile or have cancer of something. If you're that
worried about EMF you should stop driving cars.

>From a geek perspective, 5G is going to be pretty awesome. Loads of
bandwidth, very, very low latency. In a practical sense, I am not sure it
is going to make any difference - we can already watch HD video and
download huge files etc on LTE ... and I never touch the sides of my data
allowance as it is.

Maybe cost reduction for plans will be a big deal for people not on a
'business grade' plan?

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On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 05:52, Tom Rutter  wrote:

> Hi all
>
> What are your thoughts on 5G? I’m hearing a lot of about health concerns
> and 5G.
>
> Cheers
> Tom
>

Re: www.dotnetconf.net is live at the moment

[David Connors]

On 13 September 2018 at 07:34, Greg Keogh  wrote:

> But how on earth can you participate live in video in different time
> zones?
>

If you live in Australia, this means getting up at 2am normally.

Azure CDN

[David Connors]

Random tidbit I just came across/noticed.

Azure CDN does SSL for free. Couldn't believe it.

As a part of end-point provisioning you just need to prove domain ownership
(click link in e-mail). I used Verizon as the underlying provider -
completely zero touch (takes about 6 hours).

So back on the subject a while back about serving static sites from
storage, you could using Azure CDN to get custom ssl for just the cost of
the CDN egress (11c/gb).

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Re: [OT] EV SSL best value

[David Connors]

That's very cheap for EV - I doubt you'd do better.

On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 at 09:08 Greg Keogh  wrote:

> Folks, the renewal price of my Comodo EV SSL has risen this year from
> $US99 up to $US149, and it seems to be their cheapest option. It's still
> really cheap compared to the other "big names" which are 2x to 10x times
> the price. Before I renew though, I thought it might be worth asking a
> Friday question in here just in case someone knows of cheaper alternatives
> --* Greg K*
>
> P.S. And yes, I do want the EV type of cert. I'm only using the cert on my
> development site, but it makes me and others feel warm and snuggly when we
> see the green bar.
>
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Re: [OT] Java threatened?

[David Connors]

On Tue., 31 Jul. 2018, 5:58 pm Nick Randolph,  wrote:

> Android might well be the most widely adopted OS on Earth but
> https://medium.com/@drinfo/fuck-you-android-framework-ddbb02c4ae48
>
That guy is clearly pretty unhappy/unhinged. I don't the tldr of this list
is that it is developer focused but as a user though it is pretty hard to
argue with what a vanilla Android device like a pixel is like to use.

> w.r.t. Kotlin – as an app developer I would skip it (mostly) and focus on
> Flutter. I say mostly because for the platform specific components, you’ll
> need to know it. For anyone interested in Sydney there is a meetup next
> Tuesday (https://www.meetup.com/gdgsydney/events/252175587/).
>
They're not the same thing. Flutter is a cross platform app framework and
kotlin is a language to augment/interop with/replace Java.

In general, my view on cross platform is that it is a race to a lowest
common denominator of sorts.

If I had to write an app and I had all the monies I would go native every
time. If I didn't have all the monies I would use something cross platform.
I struggle to understand why companies like Facebook stuff about with cross
platform frameworks for apps when they have unlimited money and relatively
simple apps to write.

David


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Re: [OT] Java threatened?

[David Connors]

Should have said "I know the tldr" not "I don't the tldr"

On Tue., 31 Jul. 2018, 8:12 pm David Connors,  wrote:

>
>
> On Tue., 31 Jul. 2018, 5:58 pm Nick Randolph, 
> wrote:
>
>> Android might well be the most widely adopted OS on Earth but
>> https://medium.com/@drinfo/fuck-you-android-framework-ddbb02c4ae48
>>
> That guy is clearly pretty unhappy/unhinged. I don't the tldr of this list
> is that it is developer focused but as a user though it is pretty hard to
> argue with what a vanilla Android device like a pixel is like to use.
>
>> w.r.t. Kotlin – as an app developer I would skip it (mostly) and focus on
>> Flutter. I say mostly because for the platform specific components, you’ll
>> need to know it. For anyone interested in Sydney there is a meetup next
>> Tuesday (https://www.meetup.com/gdgsydney/events/252175587/).
>>
> They're not the same thing. Flutter is a cross platform app framework and
> kotlin is a language to augment/interop with/replace Java.
>
> In general, my view on cross platform is that it is a race to a lowest
> common denominator of sorts.
>
> If I had to write an app and I had all the monies I would go native every
> time. If I didn't have all the monies I would use something cross platform.
> I struggle to understand why companies like Facebook stuff about with cross
> platform frameworks for apps when they have unlimited money and relatively
> simple apps to write.
>
> David
>
>
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Re: [OT] Java threatened?

[David Connors]

On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 at 16:58 Greg Keogh  wrote:

> Folks, thanks to a passing mention in a YouTube video I discovered there
> is a new language named Kotlin. Strange it hadn't popped-up for me in
> technical articles before, as I think it's been quite mature for at least a
> year now. The first thing that strikes is the amazing similarity to C#, and
> they even acknowledge this in places on the official site. The most
> startling thing through, is how it's being marketed as a better Java. This
> page <https://kotlinlang.org/docs/reference/comparison-to-java.html>
> summarises the general superiority of Kotlin over Java. So … after 20
> years, will Java become an evolutionary dead-end?
>

There is a lot to like about Kotlin and you're right about it being C#-ish
looking version of Java.

The language was developed by JetBrains. JetBrains built the IntelliJ which
is the basis for Android Studio. Google announced last year that Kotlin is
a first class language for Android
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8ALcQiuPWs.

I don't know what the Enterprise story is for Kotlin however for
development on the most widely adopted operating system on Earth; I'd say
Java's days as a primary language are numbered.

 David.

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Re: Using Azure blob storage for static web sites

[David Connors]

On Mon., 16 Jul. 2018, 5:43 am Richard Carde,  wrote:

> I wonder how the costs compare as I use AWS for this at the moment and it
> costs me on average AUD$0.20/month over the last 12 months for S3 +
> CloudFront combination to host a pretty much brochureware site with a few
> pages over HTTPS.  The DNS hosting costs more!
>

I had a quick tinker with thr pricing calculator and It will be similar.

Across the board the big providers are pretty samey on price. We actually
have functioning market competition in our industry for a change.

David

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Re: Using Azure blob storage for static web sites

[David Connors]

On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 at 21:17 Arjang Assadi  wrote:

> did anyone suggested this already:
> https://www.michaelcrump.net/azure-tips-and-tricks138/
>

It only just went public preview.

As with these cheap things - YMMV. There won't be SSL over custom domains
etc... but you can serve a static web site (or JS, images, etc to support a
web app) for 2/10 of bugger all in cost.

David.


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Re: Using Azure blob storage for static web sites

[David Connors]

It is public preview which means beta.

On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 at 12:40 Greg Keogh  wrote:

>
>>> https://azure.microsoft.com/en-gb/blog/azure-storage-static-web-hosting-public-preview/
>>>
>>
> I should point that it's not all hugs and puppies … I created a storage
> account with the static website setting on, but in Azure Storage Explorer
> on the Windows desktop you can't open the Blob Containers node because it
> endlessly shows "Loading...". So I can't upload any content that way.
>
> There are no updates available and web searches hint that the special
> container named $web technically contains an illegal character. Hmmm, so I
> keep searching, as usual.
>
> *GK*
>
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Re: Using Azure blob storage for static web sites

[David Connors]

tnet.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *kirsten greed
> *Sent:* Monday, 18 December 2017 10:39 AM
> *To:* ozDotNet 
> *Subject:* Re: Using Azure blob storage for static web sites
>
>
>
> Hi Greg
>
> I am out of my depth, but it doesn't seem possible, looking at eudoxos
> answer.
>
>
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/9444055/using-dns-to-redirect-to-another-url-with-a-path?rq=1
>
> Kirsten
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Greg Low  wrote:
>
> Would an HTTP redirect at the DNS level fix that for you?
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> Dr Greg Low
>
>
>
> 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 <+61%20419%20201%20410>
> mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 <+61%203%208676%204913> fax
>
> SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com |http://greglow.me
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *kirsten greed
> *Sent:* Monday, 18 December 2017 9:23 AM
> *To:* ozDotNet 
> *Subject:* Using Azure blob storage for static web sites
>
>
>
> Hi folks
>
>
>
> I am investigating using Azure blob storage and CDN to host a static
> website with a contact form because this provides low cost hosting and ssl.
>
>
>
> I have managed to get the site working but with the following limitations
>
>
>
> 1) I am yet to map the domain directly to an blob.
>
> ie the user has to go to https://www.mydomain.com/index.html  not
> https://www.mydomain.com
>
>
>
> I gather Microsoft plan to fix this this year
>
>
>
>
> https://feedback.azure.com/forums/217298-storage/suggestions/6417741-static-website-hosting-in-azure-blob-storage
>
>
>
> I have googled some workarounds involving Azure Functions or CDN Rewrite
> rules but am yet to try.
>
>
>
>
>
> 2) How to do a Contact form that emails me on submit.
>
>
>
> I have seen some advice at
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/9533172/adding-contact-form-to-a-static-website
>
>
>
>
> I am wanting some advice on how to proceed.  I don't mind a bit of a
> learning curve as long as the learning is not going to be redundant in 6
> months time.
>
>
>
> Maybe I should just do a web app with Cloudflare for ssl ( which I have
> done before)  and wait.
>
>
>
> Thoughts and experiences?
>
> Kirsten
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Anyone out there?

[David Connors]

On Thu, 24 May 2018 at 12:06 Tony Wright <tonyw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yep, it sure does suck (the NBN I mean)
>

[image: Image result for mission accomplished meme]
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Re: Anyone out there?

[David Connors]

Mention the nbn - that should increase the number of posts.


On Thu, 24 May 2018 at 11:45 Greg Harris <harris.gre...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If you look at https://www.mail-archive.com/ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com/ you
> can see a dump of activity...
> Yes we do seem to have less activity these days.
>
> Greg Harris
> harris.gre...@gmail.com
> phone: 0407 942 982
> Baulkham Hills
> NSW 2153
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 6:37 AM, kirsten greed <kirsten.gr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello
>> I sent a post yesterday but nothing has come through on the list
>> KIrsten
>>
>
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Re: Trusted cloud based source control system where the code is Australian domicile? [Slightly off topic]

[David Connors]

Failing that, standing up a Git repo on an IaaS VM in one of the Australia
regions is easy too.

On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 at 09:05 David Gardiner <da...@gardiner.net.au> wrote:

> VSTS allow you to choose 'Australia' as a hosting region. According to
> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/trustcenter/privacy/vsts-location, source
> code would be kept in Australia, though some other types of data could be
> stored elsewhere.
>
> David
>
> On 21 March 2018 at 22:37, Greg Harris <harris.gre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I have a client that is concerned about Australian domicile data.
>>
>> They are happy to use cloud based services, so long as the data is
>> Australian domicile.
>>
>> We are currently using MS Azure with Australian domicile data / services.
>>
>> We want to use a cloud based source control system.
>>
>> But my expectation is the data (code) is all held in US data centres.
>>
>> *Question: Does anyone know of a trusted cloud based source control
>> system where the code is Australian domicile?*
>>
>> I was thinking of Bit Bucket (https://bitbucket.org/) being Atlassian, I
>> was thinking that they may use Australian based storage??? But I think that
>> all of their storage is Amazon S3 (https://aws.amazon.com/s3/)?
>>
>> And I could see no documentation that says Aust based storage.
>>
>> We could self host, but that is just more work I don't want to do...
>>
>>
>>
>> Many Thanks
>>
>> Greg Harris
>>
>> Greg Harris
>> harris.gre...@gmail.com
>> phone: 0407 942 982
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: Select while insert on another transaction gives unexpected results

[David Connors]

On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 at 12:23 Wallace Turner <wallace.tur...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> 1) you batch insert into a table using a transaction (say 1000 rows)
>

What are you using to do the insert?

David.

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Re: Surface Hub

[David Connors]

I'd like 1 for us and 1 for a customer. The fact these things are still in
the enterprise sales model is a bit of a fail.



On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 at 20:35 Chris Walsh <ch...@walshie.me> wrote:

> Bought them (25x55” & 10x84”) via Telstra, depends on how many you want to
> buy really.  If you buy 10 you get a good price, they (Microsoft) do end of
> quarter deals etc.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com <ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> *On
> Behalf Of *David Connors
> *Sent:* Monday, 12 March 2018 8:06 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Surface Hub
>
>
>
> Where did you buy it and what did you pay?
>
> On Mon., 12 Mar. 2018, 6:58 pm Chris Walsh, <ch...@walshie.me> wrote:
>
> Have a few yes.  What would you like to know?
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com <ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> *On
> Behalf Of *David Connors
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 7 March 2018 3:01 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
> *Subject:* Surface Hub
>
>
>
> Has anyone on this list actually bought a 55 inch surface hub?
>
>
>
> --
>
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>
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>
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Re: Surface Hub

[David Connors]

Where did you buy it and what did you pay?

On Mon., 12 Mar. 2018, 6:58 pm Chris Walsh, <ch...@walshie.me> wrote:

> Have a few yes.  What would you like to know?
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com <ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> *On
> Behalf Of *David Connors
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 7 March 2018 3:01 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
> *Subject:* Surface Hub
>
>
>
> Has anyone on this list actually bought a 55 inch surface hub?
>
>
>
> --
>
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> | LinkedIn | +61 417 189 363
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Surface Hub

[David Connors]

Has anyone on this list actually bought a 55 inch surface hub?

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Re: [OT] Internet use on 4G LTE

[David Connors]

On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 at 11:03 Tony Wright <tonyw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The telcos could have rolled out more adsl2 and get exactly the same
> result.
>

Bingo. Cost to tax payer, $0.

And there would be other market offerings by now as well if private
investment wasn't frozen out in 2009.

David.



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Re: [OT] Internet use on 4G LTE

[David Connors]

On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 at 10:55 Tony Wright <tonyw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yep, and refusing to acknowledge the huge disaster is turned into in the
> last 4 years.
>

It is less of a disaster now than it was; as per Greg's last mail.

For the record though, I don't think the project should have ever happened,
at all, in any form. If you want to f*ck something, get Canberra to do it.

David.



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Re: [OT] Internet use on 4G LTE

[David Connors]

On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 at 10:30 Tony Wright <tonyw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I find it unsurprising that Liberal "believers" such as yourself can't see
> how much worse a mess the Liberals have made it,
>

What exactly is it that I believe in?

I'm just telling you how the project was and is performing.

David.



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Re: [OT] Internet use on 4G LTE

[David Connors]

On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 at 09:52 Tony Wright <tonyw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm sure you have an answer for everything, but people in my area were
> being connected.
>

Here, I put the data from the governance report into excel for you.

The column in red shows for the given period, what % of 'premises passed'
were left with no ability to order services - Service Class 0.

Anywhere from 15 to almost 50%. As the previous graph I posted shows, the
figure was going up like a cliff face.

To put that in English, NBN was quoting premises as passed and *ready for
service* numbers which were so low that there was no end in site for the
project - and even of those numbers that were so low, 15-50% of them were
bullshit anyway because NBN was running fibre past places with no lead in
and declaring them done.

They needed to be doing ~5K premises per day to hit their numbers and at
the end of Quigley's reign they managed to get to 809 per day that they
reported by the 400-690 of them were actually able to order service. That
is catastrophic no matter how you cut it.

Under their current management their rolling average at the moment is
nearly 12K premises per day being made ready to connect (for reals).

I know you're upset you didn't get fibre, but I'm surprised you have such
difficulty in looking at the performance of the company objectively and
seeing that it was imploding due to its own mismanagement.

Week Ending Point of Interest Premises Passed and RFS Premesis
Serviceable Premises
at Service Class Zero Premises Passed in Period Premises made SC0 in period %
rolled out impossible to connect
09/09/2013 206,214 142,183 64,031 12,135 2,288 18.85%
19/08/2013 194,079 132,336 61,743 4,070 1,906 46.83%
12/08/2013 190,009 130,172 59,837 21,276 3,247 15.26%
08/07/2013 168,733 112,143 56,590 5,218 866 16.60%
01/07/2013 163,515 107,791 55,724 53,655 21,617 40.29%
17/06/2013 109,860 75,753 34,107 31,062 12,913 41.57%
27/05/2013 78,798 57,604 21,194 3,116 507 16.27%
20/05/2013 75,682 54,995 20,687 7,304 1,730 23.69%
22/04/2013 68,378 49,421 18,957 187 No previous period data No previous
period data
15/04/2013 68,191 0 68,191 20,683 No previous period data No previous
period data
11/03/2013 47,508 0 47,508 18,076 No previous period data No previous
period data
04/09/2012 29,432 0 29,432 29,432 No previous period data No previous
period data



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Re: [OT] Internet use on 4G LTE

[David Connors]

On Fri., 5 Jan. 2018, 8:51 pm Ken Schaefer, <k...@adopenstatic.com> wrote:

> Are you being deliberately obtuse? In 2011 (per you link), NBN was going
> to be fibre-to-the-premise. There was no technical need to buy any HFC or
> copper, and as you say, compensation was for destroying an existing
> business model.
>
That's right however when the second definitive agreement was negotiated
the $11bln price stated the same, hence the price of the HFC and CAN were
$0.

David

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Re: [OT] Internet use on 4G LTE

[David Connors]

On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 at 15:22 Tony Wright <tonyw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> That was the ramp up phase though. It was always going to take some time
> to ramp up. Look at what the alternative gave us: a two year delay and a
> network that's not fit for purpose.
>

Ultimately the blame for why you didn't get fibre to the everywhere lies
with a combination of overly optimistic project assumptions by the
government and gross incompetence on Quigley's part. As CEO the buck stops
with him. 5,000 premises per day fibre lead in installations was never
going to happen.

The period from the start of the project to Quigley's self-assignment on
gardening leave ran for four years - which is a very long time. In that
time, he achieved very little and ran the number of SC0 premises through
the roof. Their continued insistence of focusing on premises past instead
of premises serviceable was what put the bullets in the gun that killed
them

If you listen to Simon Hackett's talk here:
https://simonhackett.com/2013/07/17/nbn-fibre-on-a-copper-budget/

He goes into some depth on the extent of the issues - and some of them were
particularly egregious - Quigley's personal best is having a team designing
and building the wireless network portions with radio gear that uses
different spectrum to the spectrum they had bought off the government (and
they are the government).

If Quigley had performed and hit his numbers, the project would have
continued and it would have been political suicide to upset the apple cart.
Unfortunately for the fibre boosters, Quigley and the government of the day
put the gun to their own head.


> Even if they kept the old network and simply rolled it out slower we would
> have been better off.
>

[ ... ]

You're right if you ignore opportunity cost. The implementation of the
legislation for the NBN largely froze out private investment.

David.




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Re: [OT] Internet use on 4G LTE

[David Connors]

On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 at 14:45 Tony Wright <tonyw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The hilarity of Labor being better negotiators, and the libs capitulating
> and handing over money they didn't have to.
>

Oh they handed over a crap load of money. I think given the choice Telstra
would have done no deal at all, except for the strategic importance of RF
spectrum.

Conroy isn't exactly a respected figure. In retrospect, maybe he and
Telstra were a match made in heaven.


http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/government-it/senators-red-undie-remarks-fall-flat-in-new-york-20120928-26pqt.html



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Re: [OT] Internet use on 4G LTE

[David Connors]

On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 at 13:52 Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com> wrote:

> And:
>
> 3. Handing over ownership of the copper and HFC where NBN wanted to use
> them.
>

In the original definitive agreement Telstra specifically held the HFC
assets for Foxtel but were prohibited from delivering broadband over them.
I don't know that they gave a toss about the CAN.

https://www.telstra.com.au/content/dam/tcom/about-us/investors/pdf%20A/Explanatory-Memorandum.pdf

"Telstra will continue to retain and operate its Next G®
wireless network, Next IP™ core fibre network, backhaul
fibre network and HFC Cable Network (for delivery of
Pay TV Services). Telstra will also retain and operate its
Copper Network and will continue to provide broadband
services over its HFC Cable Network as relevant outside
areas where the NBN Fibre Network has been deployed.
Telstra will also retain ownership of the infrastructure
accessed by NBN Co (except for Lead-in Conduits)."

and ...

"The $11 billion in post-tax net present value comprises approximately:
- $4.0 billion from NBN Co for Disconnection Payments and sale of Lead-in
Conduits; <-- That's payment for transition of users off their wholesale
network, paid as they are churned to NBN.
- $5.0 billion from NBN Co for Infrastructure Access Payments; and
- $2.0 billion attributed to Commonwealth contributions and costs avoided
including for housing estate fibre provisioning responsibilities,
commitments for TUSMA funding for certain migration costs, staff retraining
and NBN Co’s public education campaign funding.  "

>

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Re: [OT] Internet use on 4G LTE

[David Connors]

On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 at 12:03 Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com> wrote:

> If so, it seems very much like compensation for the physical
> infrastructure. The Telstra and Optus could have kept their user base (and
> associated value derived from that) on the new physical platform.
>

For Telstra it was compensation for:
1. Losing all wholesale revenue.
2. Providing a commitment to churn all of its customers to NBN.

Not that they had any choice in the matter given that Conroy had a gun to
Telstra's head saying he would prohibit them from bidding on any further
spectrum of they didn't sign a definitive agreement.

David.




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Re: [OT] Internet use on 4G LTE

[David Connors]

On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 at 11:54 Tony Wright <tonyw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> You run an internet business Dave so did you get compensated? Or did they
> get special treatment that you didn't get?
>

I don't run an internet business.



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Re: [OT] Internet use on 4G LTE

[David Connors]

On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 at 11:43 Tony Wright <tonyw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ah, so it really was a donation. All companies were meant to compete on
> the same footing using their existing user bases on the new NBN. So Telstra
> and Optus ended up getting special treatment after all.
>

Not really. There is the small matter of the Constitution of Australia
which prohibits the government from taking anything off you without
appropriate compensation.

David.


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Re: [OT] Internet use on 4G LTE

[David Connors]

On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 at 10:53 Tony Wright <tonyw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> So what did they pay for?
>

Compensation for what was effectively a compulsory acquisition of their
user bases.

That price paid saw all of the existing HFC/CAN infrastructure thrown out
at $0 value. Once they opted to use these assets no additional money
changed hands.

David.




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Re: [OT] Internet use on 4G LTE

[David Connors]

On Thu., 4 Jan. 2018, 9:13 pm Tony Wright, <tonyw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> So what you're actually saying is they acquired it, handed over the money,
> without doing any due diligence on whether it was going to work or not.
> Sounds like a donation.
>

They didn't pay money for either the HFC or copper at all.

David.
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Re: [OT] Internet use on 4G LTE

[David Connors]

On Thu., 4 Jan. 2018, 8:34 pm Tony Wright, <tonyw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> CVC is recoverable.
>

You are correct ... It most certainly is.

As for another decision impaired choice, the purchase of two cable networks
> that are not fit for purpose, how much did that cost taxpayers?
>

The price to acquire to use was the same price as aquire to not use.

We're not talking about mobile any more are we?

David.


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Re: [OT] Internet use on 4G LTE

[David Connors]

On Thu., 4 Jan. 2018, 5:23 pm Tony Wright, <tonyw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> That's most of us. I said it was going to be this bad 4 years ago, but
> it's actually turned out worse. When I go to nbn, my speed will actually
> drop. My brothers nbn fttp is awesome but even his download speed is lower
> than my 10yo Telstra cable connection.
>

Yeah well that is CVC in action.

Everything I've argued about in that regard has come to pass.

David

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Re: [OT] Internet use on 4G LTE

[David Connors]

On Thu, 4 Jan 2018 at 16:28 Tony Wright <tonyw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Gosh Dave, you're not telling me you're still supportive of the hugely
> expensive backward step this nation took with the NBN are you?
>

Negative - we're talking about mobile.

NBN have completely abandoned South Brisbane - no intention to install
there at all. They just tell you to go to the Telstra Velocity web site. :\

David.



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Re: [OT] Internet use on 4G LTE

[David Connors]

On Thu, 4 Jan 2018 at 14:53 Tony Wright <tonyw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> They claim a speed of 2560MB whatever that means, but to get 1.6GB down in
> 1 minute is pretty impressive. Gosh, internet in Australia really really
> sucks!  But nobody wants speed in Australia, right?
>

That transfer works out at about 250mbps. I'm getting 150mbps at the moment
in a business park in Brisbane.

Data on NextG costs 5x more than the $6 you paid, but Google tells me the
average salary in Australia is 14x that of Thailand.

Everyone hates a pedant on a Thursday afternoon.

David.



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Re: [OT] Internet use on 4G LTE

[David Connors]

So - order a phone line and try again?

If it is an consolation, I live in West End which has special South
Brisbane Fibre (Telstra Velocity). When you order fibre they come out,
instal fibre and the NTU.

The tech then plugs a butinski into the fibre NTU to check he has dial tone
and then tells me the service is installed.

Only in Telstra land is a new fibre service tested by dial tone on an  NTU.

(oh and when he left, I had no Internet - that takes another week).

David

On Thu, 4 Jan 2018 at 09:39 Greg Low <g...@greglow.com> wrote:

> Apparently my mistake was asking Telstra for an Internet connection. If
> you do that, they send an Internet tech.
>
>
>
> If I'd asked for a simple landline, they would have sent a telephone tech.
> After the telephone line was in place (even though I didn't want one), the
> cable installation would have become a "simple" one rather than a "complex"
> one requiring trenching, as the phone guy would have connected the conduit
> the required extra 1.5 metres.
>
>
>
> Telstra wanted $4,100 to connect from a brand new conduit, to a pit 1.5
> metres away.
>
>
>
> The phone tech who was working at the pit the other day told me that was 
> F@@#$@#$
> ridiculous. If I'd ordered a phone line, he would have just connected it.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> Dr Greg Low
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Connors
> *Sent:* Thursday, 4 January 2018 10:27 AM
>
>
> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Internet use on 4G LTE
>
>
>
> Don't have a friend with line of site within 20klm of you do you?
>
>
>
> We changed our office link over to a ubiquity based microwave service a
> while ago - hasn't missed a beat. Both dishes/radios together were worth <
> $500.
>
>
>
> On Thu, 4 Jan 2018 at 09:21 Greg Low <g...@greglow.com> wrote:
>
> Unfortunately, getting Telstra to connect cable to our new place turned
> out to be a nightmare. They were beyond incompetent. And now, because it
> suddenly became an NBN area, they can't do it at all. And NBN Co have the 6
> – 9 month delay for new connections. So we're stuffed.
>
>
>
> Telstra mobile broadband charge outrageous amounts for data. We use them
> on a shared plan with 32GB per month.
>
>
>
> But for general data at home, we're using an Optus mobile broadband plan.
> ($140 per month for 280GB). It was the only thing we could get working that
> had any chance of working. I avoided the "come in spinner" Optus options
> that peak out at 12M download speed and went for the normal one. Mostly I
> get around 18M down and 25 up (curiously). Dropouts pretty regularly, but
> last night, barely any data moving.
>
>
>
> I also checked out getting fibre connected. Free installation at present
> with my 426 metre infrastructure shortfall.
>
>
>
> But the prices for 3 years (minimum contract) were:
>
>
>
> 10M/10M – around $26,000
>
> 20M/20M – around $38,000
>
> 100M/100M – around $364,000
>
>
>
> They are with 1:1 contention though. But I decided that I was after a
> connection to a house, not a house.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> Dr Greg Low
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Connors
> *Sent:* Thursday, 4 January 2018 10:13 AM
>
>
> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Internet use on 4G LTE
>
>
>
> On Thu, 4 Jan 2018 at 09:12 Greg Low <g...@greglow.com> wrote:
>
> I've often seen 90M down and 45M up on my laptop on Telstra 4G LTE.
>
>
>
> But ask me about my Optus mobile broadband last night where I couldn't
> even get 1M down…
>
>
>
> Telstra really is the only game in town for mobile broadband if you want
> performance (unless you never leave the CBD).
>
>
>
> David.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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