Re: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

2014-06-19 Thread Greg Harris
Hi All,


I have had the new monitor (Samsung U28D590DS 28 UltraHD) out of the box
and plugged it in for a week.


I was just about ready to take it back to the store as it was not working,
but then I found the single black on black “JOG Button” on the back of the
right hand side of the monitor and played around with it and she worked!


On my not so old laptop I only get to see 3.7M pixels (2560 X 1440) out of
the 8.3M (3840 X 2160) available pixels because that is all the graphics
card will drive on this machine.


I am thinking that I may get a new graphics card for my desktop machine,
just to get the extra pixels.  I am not sure if it is wise to replace the
graphics card in the laptop???  Dell's reply to my a request for an upgrade
to my Precision M6500 to support the monitor is: “Unfortunately the video
card on a portable cannot be upgraded after the point of sale”.


I have had one morning where the monitor did not wake up with the other
monitors which is a bit of a concern, a power reset fixed that.


A few thoughts:

· This is a good monitor but it could be much better with a better
graphics card.

· You have no option but to run this monitor in landscape mode in a
fixed location on your desk as there are no options to wall mount it and
the stand is fixed and non-adjustable!

· If you want height adjustment, put it on a big book! (stand is
about 35cm long)

· I like that the power supply is a small external brick so I only
have a small cable up to my desk (and the brick runs quite cool)


Overall, am I happy with the purchase? YES


I am also using this with a Toshiba dynadock® U3.0 Universal USB 3.0
Docking Station (
http://www.toshiba.com/us/accessories/Docking-and-Stands/Port-Replicators/Docking-Station/PA3927U-1PRP)
which gives me another two external HD monitors which is starting to get up
towards a reasonable amount of screen space.


Regards

Greg Harris


On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote:

 How do people find the font sizes for programming/web surfing with such a
 high-resolution? I know you can make the editor fonts bigger, but what
 about menus/etc? How does Visual Studio look?


 After getting my Dell I think I posted in here to remind people how
 important it is to write apps that can zoom to suit your distance,
 resolution and how tired your eyes are. I found some of my own desktop apps
 looked like little ant farms on the Dell. Right then I decided that all
 XAML based apps that I write would have at some zooming ability for all
 major parts of the UI (and I have kept my promise). I usually put a small
 slider at the bottom left of grids, dialogs, etc and bind FontSize to it,
 so with one line you get free zooming.

 All the major apps I use can (mostly) zoom, Visual Studio, IE, Office
 apps, Notepad2, etc. I say mostly because many menus, toolbars, trees,
 etc within these apps don't zoom. So the experience is inconsistent in
 Windows and these apps, but it's just enough to satisfy me and I find I'm
 using the Ctrl+Wheel unconsciously all day, especially in VS2013 on the
 Dell.

 *Greg K*



Re: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

2014-06-19 Thread Stephen Price
I'm happier with my Samsung U28D590DS each day.
I didn't have a problem finding the Jog thumbstick on the back, I think I
saw it while setting it up, but yeah, black on black is kind of easy to
miss.

I'm running 4 screens off one graphics card. Almost with no issue, I had to
set one of the screens to custom resolution with 30Hz as it was all blurry
otherwise. Odd issue but you get that.
Link to photo of my setup http://t.co/xPHjexrSwC

cheers,
Stephen


On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Greg Harris g...@harrisconsultinggroup.com
 wrote:

 Hi All,


 I have had the new monitor (Samsung U28D590DS 28 UltraHD) out of the box
 and plugged it in for a week.


 I was just about ready to take it back to the store as it was not working,
 but then I found the single black on black “JOG Button” on the back of the
 right hand side of the monitor and played around with it and she worked!


 On my not so old laptop I only get to see 3.7M pixels (2560 X 1440) out of
 the 8.3M (3840 X 2160) available pixels because that is all the graphics
 card will drive on this machine.


 I am thinking that I may get a new graphics card for my desktop machine,
 just to get the extra pixels.  I am not sure if it is wise to replace the
 graphics card in the laptop???  Dell's reply to my a request for an upgrade
 to my Precision M6500 to support the monitor is: “Unfortunately the video
 card on a portable cannot be upgraded after the point of sale”.


 I have had one morning where the monitor did not wake up with the other
 monitors which is a bit of a concern, a power reset fixed that.


 A few thoughts:

 · This is a good monitor but it could be much better with a
 better graphics card.

 · You have no option but to run this monitor in landscape mode in
 a fixed location on your desk as there are no options to wall mount it and
 the stand is fixed and non-adjustable!

 · If you want height adjustment, put it on a big book! (stand is
 about 35cm long)

 · I like that the power supply is a small external brick so I
 only have a small cable up to my desk (and the brick runs quite cool)


 Overall, am I happy with the purchase? YES


 I am also using this with a Toshiba dynadock® U3.0 Universal USB 3.0
 Docking Station (
 http://www.toshiba.com/us/accessories/Docking-and-Stands/Port-Replicators/Docking-Station/PA3927U-1PRP)
 which gives me another two external HD monitors which is starting to get up
 towards a reasonable amount of screen space.


 Regards

 Greg Harris


 On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote:

 How do people find the font sizes for programming/web surfing with such a
 high-resolution? I know you can make the editor fonts bigger, but what
 about menus/etc? How does Visual Studio look?


 After getting my Dell I think I posted in here to remind people how
 important it is to write apps that can zoom to suit your distance,
 resolution and how tired your eyes are. I found some of my own desktop apps
 looked like little ant farms on the Dell. Right then I decided that all
 XAML based apps that I write would have at some zooming ability for all
 major parts of the UI (and I have kept my promise). I usually put a small
 slider at the bottom left of grids, dialogs, etc and bind FontSize to it,
 so with one line you get free zooming.

 All the major apps I use can (mostly) zoom, Visual Studio, IE, Office
 apps, Notepad2, etc. I say mostly because many menus, toolbars, trees,
 etc within these apps don't zoom. So the experience is inconsistent in
 Windows and these apps, but it's just enough to satisfy me and I find I'm
 using the Ctrl+Wheel unconsciously all day, especially in VS2013 on the
 Dell.

 *Greg K*





Re: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

2014-06-13 Thread Stephen Price
To be honest, Windows still has a way to go before they have the scaling
issues sorted out. There's big push for more pixels per inch, which makes
the images look fantastic, but naturally this increases the resolution
which makes the default fonts smaller. The scaling can be done to
everything or selectively to whatever you like (titles, menus etc) but I've
never customised at the granular level. Also when you do select scale for
everything, there are some apps that don't scale. The worst thing I've seen
is dialog boxes (ie Installshield for example) where there are no resizing,
no scrollbars and the content of said nonresizable window is scales out of
view. Only way around that is to turn scaling back to 100%, log out, log
back in and rerun the installer. Not the best situation but you can work
around it. (why do we have to?).

Adobe products seem to all ignore scaling settings. It pretty much comes
down to the developer and how they implemented it, but I still think it's
Microsoft's job in this case to work out how to scale everything.
(Everything means everything, not most things...)

That said, a crisp font on a 4k monitor gives you goosebumps. It does me
anyway. :)

The down side, is when we have methods that can fit on the screen for
maintainability, the other developers without 4k monitors will have to
scroll lots. hehe. Bit like when people made the move from square to
widescreen monitors, or single to multiscreen setup. You wonder how you got
along without them.


On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Les Hughes l...@datarev.com.au wrote:

  On 13/06/14 11:34, Greg Keogh wrote:

Your Dell was no doubt an IPS panel (I don’t think they do TN panels),
 whereas the Samsung is a TN panel so that would make up a for quite a bit
 of the difference.


  Ah! I wasn't aware of the details of the difference, but a quick search
 hints that TN is usually faster but doesn't look good off-centre, and the
 IPS is slower but has better colours and more generous viewing angles. My
 Dell U2711 is IPS -- *Greg*


 How do people find the font sizes for programming/web surfing with such a
 high-resolution? I know you can make the editor fonts bigger, but what
 about menus/etc? How does Visual Studio look?

 Cheers,
 --
 Les Hughes
 l...@datarev.com.au



Re: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

2014-06-13 Thread Greg Keogh

 How do people find the font sizes for programming/web surfing with such a
 high-resolution? I know you can make the editor fonts bigger, but what
 about menus/etc? How does Visual Studio look?


After getting my Dell I think I posted in here to remind people how
important it is to write apps that can zoom to suit your distance,
resolution and how tired your eyes are. I found some of my own desktop apps
looked like little ant farms on the Dell. Right then I decided that all
XAML based apps that I write would have at some zooming ability for all
major parts of the UI (and I have kept my promise). I usually put a small
slider at the bottom left of grids, dialogs, etc and bind FontSize to it,
so with one line you get free zooming.

All the major apps I use can (mostly) zoom, Visual Studio, IE, Office apps,
Notepad2, etc. I say mostly because many menus, toolbars, trees, etc
within these apps don't zoom. So the experience is inconsistent in Windows
and these apps, but it's just enough to satisfy me and I find I'm using the
Ctrl+Wheel unconsciously all day, especially in VS2013 on the Dell.

*Greg K*


RE: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

2014-06-12 Thread ILT (O)
Now at $722 incl GST from NetPlus in Perth. 

Samsung U28D590DS/XY 28 
http://www.netplus.com.au/newsletter.asp?action=productlinkdate=12.06.2014code=MNSAU28D590DS
  UHD

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Greg Harris
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 1:54 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

 

DSE has them in stock for $699 
(http://www.dicksmith.com.au/computer-monitors/samsung-28-uhd590-monitor-dsau-xc9312)

Just got one off JW.com.au 
(http://www.jw.com.au/samsung-u28d590ds-28-ultrahd-1ms-4k-monitor-p-54326)

who did a price match

My laptop will not drive the full resolution, but it is worthwhile anyway...

 

On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com 
wrote:

Just an update on this new Samsung 4k monitor (U28D590D), I used it in 
2560x1440 for a while due to the fonts looking blurry and not being used to the 
small fonts. Few days ago, I tried it back in its native res and started 
getting used to it. I usually RDP to my laptop and spend most of my time there 
(which is where I was getting blurryness in Visual Studio). While RDP'ing to 
another laptop, I suddenly realised the fonts were crisp. That machine was on 
ethernet not wifi, comparing them side by side, the laptop on wifi was 
definitely blurry in comparison. Turned on the setting to force it to think it 
was on a LAN connection and reconnected. It's now crisp like the other machine. 

 

A lot happier now. (if somewhat sheepish it took me so long to twig what was 
going on). :)

 

On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com 
wrote:

Or... buy two monitors!

 

On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote:

It should easily pay for itself in its life span, as well as make you a happier 
developer, adding years to your life span and potential lifetime earnings. I 
say it's a bad business decision to NOT get it.

 

Then the only answer is to buy one and use it in Hawaii -- Greg

 

 

 



RE: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

2014-06-12 Thread Ken Schaefer
I remember paying about $1000 for a 1024x768 15” LCD monitor circa 12-13 years 
ago, and how amazingly thin/light it was compared to my Sony 17” Trinitron at 
the time. Now, I doubt you can even get a mainstream LCD that small.

Instead, it seems you can get something that’s almost the equivalent of 12 such 
monitors, for less than half the price (in real terms)

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Greg Keogh
Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2014 11:17 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

Now at $722 incl GST from NetPlus in Perth.
Samsung U28D590DS/XY 28 
UHDhttp://www.netplus.com.au/newsletter.asp?action=productlinkdate=12.06.2014code=MNSAU28D590DS

This is stonkering progress ... my precious DELL two years ago was ~$770 and 
had a 2560x1440 resolution which stunned me at the time, and I still enjoy it. 
Now for the same price we're up to 3840x2160, but only an inch extra on the 
diagonal. I guess in about a year I'll upgrade.

Progress in this area is really amazing. From my childhood I remember a scene 
in the book The Andromeda Strain where Michael Crichton describes the most 
sophisticated screen imaginable at the time for medical investigators who have 
enough funding to try and save humanity. I vaguely recall a description of 
thousands of optical fibres all converging into the back of a screen to produce 
an image of unimaginable clarity. (look it up for yourself, as I last read it 
in 1972). However, the movie was pretty good for it's day.

Greg K


Re: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

2014-06-12 Thread Greg Keogh

 Your Dell was no doubt an IPS panel (I don’t think they do TN panels),
 whereas the Samsung is a TN panel so that would make up a for quite a bit
 of the difference.


Ah! I wasn't aware of the details of the difference, but a quick search
hints that TN is usually faster but doesn't look good off-centre, and the
IPS is slower but has better colours and more generous viewing angles. My
Dell U2711 is IPS -- *Greg*


Re: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

2014-06-11 Thread Stephen Price
Just an update on this new Samsung 4k monitor (U28D590D), I used it in
2560x1440 for a while due to the fonts looking blurry and not being used to
the small fonts. Few days ago, I tried it back in its native res and
started getting used to it. I usually RDP to my laptop and spend most of my
time there (which is where I was getting blurryness in Visual Studio).
While RDP'ing to another laptop, I suddenly realised the fonts were crisp.
That machine was on ethernet not wifi, comparing them side by side, the
laptop on wifi was definitely blurry in comparison. Turned on the setting
to force it to think it was on a LAN connection and reconnected. It's now
crisp like the other machine.

A lot happier now. (if somewhat sheepish it took me so long to twig what
was going on). :)


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com
wrote:

 Or... buy two monitors!


 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote:

 It should easily pay for itself in its life span, as well as make you a
 happier developer, adding years to your life span and potential lifetime
 earnings. I say it's a bad business decision to NOT get it.


 Then the only answer is to buy one and use it in Hawaii -- *Greg*





Re: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

2014-06-11 Thread Greg Harris
DSE has them in stock for $699 (
http://www.dicksmith.com.au/computer-monitors/samsung-28-uhd590-monitor-dsau-xc9312
)
Just got one off JW.com.au (
http://www.jw.com.au/samsung-u28d590ds-28-ultrahd-1ms-4k-monitor-p-54326)
who did a price match
My laptop will not drive the full resolution, but it is worthwhile anyway...


On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com
wrote:

 Just an update on this new Samsung 4k monitor (U28D590D), I used it in
 2560x1440 for a while due to the fonts looking blurry and not being used to
 the small fonts. Few days ago, I tried it back in its native res and
 started getting used to it. I usually RDP to my laptop and spend most of my
 time there (which is where I was getting blurryness in Visual Studio).
 While RDP'ing to another laptop, I suddenly realised the fonts were crisp.
 That machine was on ethernet not wifi, comparing them side by side, the
 laptop on wifi was definitely blurry in comparison. Turned on the setting
 to force it to think it was on a LAN connection and reconnected. It's now
 crisp like the other machine.

 A lot happier now. (if somewhat sheepish it took me so long to twig what
 was going on). :)


 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com
  wrote:

 Or... buy two monitors!


 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote:

 It should easily pay for itself in its life span, as well as make you a
 happier developer, adding years to your life span and potential lifetime
 earnings. I say it's a bad business decision to NOT get it.


 Then the only answer is to buy one and use it in Hawaii -- *Greg*






Re: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

2014-05-27 Thread Stephen Price
Dell 30


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:14 AM, David Kean david.k...@microsoft.comwrote:

  Which 30” are you running?



 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Price
 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 21, 2014 11:07 PM

 *To:* ozDotNet
 *Subject:* Re: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor



 Oh I just found a sharpness setting in with brightness and contrast which
 has helped. Much more usable now. I think the 30 is still crisper in
 comparison but at least its a lot closer now.



 On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com
 wrote:

  Dave, I blame you entirely.



 I got the monitor (Samsung 4K) and have mixed results. It's entirely
 dependant on what your graphics card can do.

 When I plug it into my desktop (sporting a GTX690) it only seems to
 support 2560x1440. That said there is a box to enter a custom res which I
 can select 3840x2160 @ 30hz. It won't go higher (which I think is normal
 see note following regarding QuadHD laptop).

 It works but it seems somewhat blurry. I'm not sure yet if I will use it
 at higher res or drop back to the one it wants to use. It seems way
 crisper/sharper at that. If I go that route then its an expensive Ultra
 monitor. (which is future proof when my graphics cards catch up).



 I did plug in my Samsung Book 9 plus which is QuadHD (on the laptop) and
 the output looked fantastic. So there's nothing wrong with the monitor. The
 laptop (using mini hdmi or whatever it is, a strange small connector) to
 HDMI did 3840x2160 @ 30hz and looked crisp and clear. I may end up putting
 my 30inch back in the middle (which is amazingly much larger considering 28
 vs 30 is only 2) and using the new samsung 4K monitor as second screen for
 my laptop. (I usually RDP to my laptops to get 4 screen support anyway
 so... ahh)



 So my take on this, if you have a new machine with Haswell chipset then
 I'd say go for it. Anything else and you may well be dissapointed (although
 it might trigger further graphics card upgrades which is always good haha)



 Stephen (your friendly neighbourhood Guinea Pig)



 On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Do you need some enabling?



 You should buy one Stephen. Then tell the rest of us how it is for
 coding/etc.



 On 21 May 2014 18:38, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote:

  Yeah I've been looking at that monitor for a week now. Austin Computers
 has them in stock.


 http://www.austin.net.au/shop-categories/monitor/samsung-u28d590d-28-3840-x-2160-widescreen-le.html



 To be honest I'm not even sure why I don't have one now. Delaying the
 impulse buy as long as I can... :)



 On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Anyone looking to get a U28D590D 4K / 3840 X 2160 monitor when they are
 released?



 Look pretty awesome..
 http://www.samsung.com/levant/consumer/computers-peripherals/monitors/led-monitor/LU28D590DS/ZN















Re: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

2014-05-27 Thread Greg Keogh
I first saw a Dell 30 inch about 5 years ago when they were ~$3000, and I
couldn't believe my eyes with the space and clarity. I see they've been
hovering around ~$1500 for the last year or so, still a bit out of my
budget range. Is there anything that can compete with the Dell U3014 now
for a lower price?

About 18 months ago I bought myself the consolation prize of a Dell U2711
for about $700 and it's one of the best things I've ever owned on a PC,
it's an enormous productivity booster. Never underestimate the value of
your screen real estate, after all, you stare at it for more than half your
waking life don't you?!

*Greg K*


On 28 May 2014 09:22, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote:

 Dell 30


 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:14 AM, David Kean david.k...@microsoft.comwrote:

  Which 30” are you running?



 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Price
 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 21, 2014 11:07 PM

 *To:* ozDotNet
 *Subject:* Re: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor



 Oh I just found a sharpness setting in with brightness and contrast which
 has helped. Much more usable now. I think the 30 is still crisper in
 comparison but at least its a lot closer now.



 On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com
 wrote:

  Dave, I blame you entirely.



 I got the monitor (Samsung 4K) and have mixed results. It's entirely
 dependant on what your graphics card can do.

 When I plug it into my desktop (sporting a GTX690) it only seems to
 support 2560x1440. That said there is a box to enter a custom res which I
 can select 3840x2160 @ 30hz. It won't go higher (which I think is normal
 see note following regarding QuadHD laptop).

 It works but it seems somewhat blurry. I'm not sure yet if I will use it
 at higher res or drop back to the one it wants to use. It seems way
 crisper/sharper at that. If I go that route then its an expensive Ultra
 monitor. (which is future proof when my graphics cards catch up).



 I did plug in my Samsung Book 9 plus which is QuadHD (on the laptop) and
 the output looked fantastic. So there's nothing wrong with the monitor. The
 laptop (using mini hdmi or whatever it is, a strange small connector) to
 HDMI did 3840x2160 @ 30hz and looked crisp and clear. I may end up putting
 my 30inch back in the middle (which is amazingly much larger considering 28
 vs 30 is only 2) and using the new samsung 4K monitor as second screen for
 my laptop. (I usually RDP to my laptops to get 4 screen support anyway
 so... ahh)



 So my take on this, if you have a new machine with Haswell chipset then
 I'd say go for it. Anything else and you may well be dissapointed (although
 it might trigger further graphics card upgrades which is always good haha)



 Stephen (your friendly neighbourhood Guinea Pig)



 On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Do you need some enabling?



 You should buy one Stephen. Then tell the rest of us how it is for
 coding/etc.



 On 21 May 2014 18:38, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote:

  Yeah I've been looking at that monitor for a week now. Austin Computers
 has them in stock.


 http://www.austin.net.au/shop-categories/monitor/samsung-u28d590d-28-3840-x-2160-widescreen-le.html



 To be honest I'm not even sure why I don't have one now. Delaying the
 impulse buy as long as I can... :)



 On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Anyone looking to get a U28D590D 4K / 3840 X 2160 monitor when they are
 released?



 Look pretty awesome..
 http://www.samsung.com/levant/consumer/computers-peripherals/monitors/led-monitor/LU28D590DS/ZN

















Re: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

2014-05-27 Thread Stephen Price
Yep, my Dell 30 is still my best monitor. I had the Samsung one (also
really good) but had fewer inputs and it died. I've seen them for around
$1200 ish, and there is also a group buy website somewhere that you can go
into a group purchase and get some nice discount. My Dell has some bright
pixels but it's not bothered me (only show on a totally black screen which
is rare) and I didn't want to go without it to get it replaced... I suspect
its out of warranty now anyway.

There is a nice (and expensive) Asus monitor that is a 4k monitor but its
more than $3000. Until Windows sorts out its inconsistent scaling issues
(with 4k res I find everything too small to see, even if it is super crisp
and clear... I think its too much) this other monitor might be a way better
buy. http://www.scorptec.com.au/product/Monitors/25%2B_inch/54493-34UM95-P
It's about the same price as Dell 30 but its 34 and extra wide screen.
21:9 ratio 3440 x 1440 (60Hz). I suspect this monitor might be a really
nice sweet spot between a 4k and 2560x1600.
hehe if i didn't already have 4 screens on my desk, I think I'd buy one
right now... ... and impulse buy urge has passed... whew.


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote:

 I first saw a Dell 30 inch about 5 years ago when they were ~$3000, and I
 couldn't believe my eyes with the space and clarity. I see they've been
 hovering around ~$1500 for the last year or so, still a bit out of my
 budget range. Is there anything that can compete with the Dell U3014 now
 for a lower price?

 About 18 months ago I bought myself the consolation prize of a Dell U2711
 for about $700 and it's one of the best things I've ever owned on a PC,
 it's an enormous productivity booster. Never underestimate the value of
 your screen real estate, after all, you stare at it for more than half your
 waking life don't you?!

 *Greg K*


 On 28 May 2014 09:22, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote:

 Dell 30


 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:14 AM, David Kean david.k...@microsoft.comwrote:

  Which 30” are you running?



 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Price
 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 21, 2014 11:07 PM

 *To:* ozDotNet
 *Subject:* Re: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor



 Oh I just found a sharpness setting in with brightness and contrast
 which has helped. Much more usable now. I think the 30 is still crisper in
 comparison but at least its a lot closer now.



 On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Stephen Price 
 step...@perthprojects.com wrote:

  Dave, I blame you entirely.



 I got the monitor (Samsung 4K) and have mixed results. It's entirely
 dependant on what your graphics card can do.

 When I plug it into my desktop (sporting a GTX690) it only seems to
 support 2560x1440. That said there is a box to enter a custom res which I
 can select 3840x2160 @ 30hz. It won't go higher (which I think is normal
 see note following regarding QuadHD laptop).

 It works but it seems somewhat blurry. I'm not sure yet if I will use it
 at higher res or drop back to the one it wants to use. It seems way
 crisper/sharper at that. If I go that route then its an expensive Ultra
 monitor. (which is future proof when my graphics cards catch up).



 I did plug in my Samsung Book 9 plus which is QuadHD (on the laptop) and
 the output looked fantastic. So there's nothing wrong with the monitor. The
 laptop (using mini hdmi or whatever it is, a strange small connector) to
 HDMI did 3840x2160 @ 30hz and looked crisp and clear. I may end up putting
 my 30inch back in the middle (which is amazingly much larger considering 28
 vs 30 is only 2) and using the new samsung 4K monitor as second screen for
 my laptop. (I usually RDP to my laptops to get 4 screen support anyway
 so... ahh)



 So my take on this, if you have a new machine with Haswell chipset then
 I'd say go for it. Anything else and you may well be dissapointed (although
 it might trigger further graphics card upgrades which is always good haha)



 Stephen (your friendly neighbourhood Guinea Pig)



 On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Do you need some enabling?



 You should buy one Stephen. Then tell the rest of us how it is for
 coding/etc.



 On 21 May 2014 18:38, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote:

  Yeah I've been looking at that monitor for a week now. Austin
 Computers has them in stock.


 http://www.austin.net.au/shop-categories/monitor/samsung-u28d590d-28-3840-x-2160-widescreen-le.html



 To be honest I'm not even sure why I don't have one now. Delaying the
 impulse buy as long as I can... :)



 On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Anyone looking to get a U28D590D 4K / 3840 X 2160 monitor when they
 are released?



 Look pretty awesome..
 http://www.samsung.com/levant/consumer/computers-peripherals/monitors/led-monitor/LU28D590DS/ZN


















Re: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

2014-05-27 Thread Greg Keogh

 this other monitor might be a way better buy.
 http://www.scorptec.com.au/product/Monitors/25%2B_inch/54493-34UM95-P It's
 about the same price as Dell 30 but its 34 and extra wide screen. 21:9
 ratio 3440 x 1440 (60Hz).


WIDE!! Jumpin' jeez ... it looks like a gimmick and I think it might have
limited appeal. You could play two movies side by side. My Dell U2711 is
2560 x 1440, and even with this I often feel I'd like some extra height --
*Greg*


Re: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

2014-05-27 Thread Stephen Price
Then you want this one.

http://www.scorptec.com.au/product/Monitors/25%2B_inch/54853-PQ321QE

:)


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote:

 this other monitor might be a way better buy.
 http://www.scorptec.com.au/product/Monitors/25%2B_inch/54493-34UM95-P It's
 about the same price as Dell 30 but its 34 and extra wide screen. 21:9
 ratio 3440 x 1440 (60Hz).


 WIDE!! Jumpin' jeez ... it looks like a gimmick and I think it might have
 limited appeal. You could play two movies side by side. My Dell U2711 is
 2560 x 1440, and even with this I often feel I'd like some extra height --
 *Greg*



Re: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

2014-05-27 Thread Greg Keogh

 Then you want this one.
 http://www.scorptec.com.au/product/Monitors/25%2B_inch/54853-PQ321QE


Holey Scheiße! Now that's an acceptable resolution, but do I spend the
$3500+ on a Hawaiian holiday or a screen?

Greg


RE: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

2014-05-27 Thread David Kean
I’ve got the zr30w. For that price below, I could easily buy another 2 with 
room as well as another GTX 580 to my dual SLI setup to drive them for the same 
price. Looks like I’ll be waiting for a while…

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Stephen Price
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 6:46 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

Then you want this one.

http://www.scorptec.com.au/product/Monitors/25%2B_inch/54853-PQ321QE

:)

On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Greg Keogh 
g...@mira.netmailto:g...@mira.net wrote:
this other monitor might be a way better buy. 
http://www.scorptec.com.au/product/Monitors/25%2B_inch/54493-34UM95-P It's 
about the same price as Dell 30 but its 34 and extra wide screen. 21:9 ratio 
3440 x 1440 (60Hz).

WIDE!! Jumpin' jeez ... it looks like a gimmick and I think it might have 
limited appeal. You could play two movies side by side. My Dell U2711 is 2560 x 
1440, and even with this I often feel I'd like some extra height -- Greg



Re: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

2014-05-27 Thread Stephen Price
Well that's an easy choice!

The Hawaiian holiday has a much shorter life span and will cost you (loss
of income) during its usage period.
The monitor will make you more productive (more efficiency = better usage
of resources and higher productivity increasing income) and should last for
years to come. It should easily pay for itself in its life span, as well as
make you a happier developer, adding years to your life span and potential
lifetime earnings.

I say it's a bad business decision to NOT get it.

Full review please, when you get it. :)



On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote:

 Then you want this one.
 http://www.scorptec.com.au/product/Monitors/25%2B_inch/54853-PQ321QE


 Holey Scheiße! Now that's an acceptable resolution, but do I spend the
 $3500+ on a Hawaiian holiday or a screen?

 Greg



Re: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

2014-05-27 Thread David Connors
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On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.comwrote:

 Well that's an easy choice!

 The Hawaiian holiday has a much shorter life span and will cost you (loss
 of income) during its usage period.
 The monitor will make you more productive (more efficiency = better usage
 of resources and higher productivity increasing income) and should last for
 years to come. It should easily pay for itself in its life span, as well as
 make you a happier developer, adding years to your life span and potential
 lifetime earnings.

 I say it's a bad business decision to NOT get it.

 Full review please, when you get it. :)



 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote:

  Then you want this one.
 http://www.scorptec.com.au/product/Monitors/25%2B_inch/54853-PQ321QE


 Holey Scheiße! Now that's an acceptable resolution, but do I spend the
 $3500+ on a Hawaiian holiday or a screen?

 Greg





Re: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

2014-05-27 Thread Greg Keogh

 It should easily pay for itself in its life span, as well as make you a
 happier developer, adding years to your life span and potential lifetime
 earnings. I say it's a bad business decision to NOT get it.


Then the only answer is to buy one and use it in Hawaii -- *Greg*


Re: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

2014-05-27 Thread Stephen Price
Or... buy two monitors!


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote:

 It should easily pay for itself in its life span, as well as make you a
 happier developer, adding years to your life span and potential lifetime
 earnings. I say it's a bad business decision to NOT get it.


 Then the only answer is to buy one and use it in Hawaii -- *Greg*



Re: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

2014-05-22 Thread Stephen Price
Oh I just found a sharpness setting in with brightness and contrast which
has helped. Much more usable now. I think the 30 is still crisper in
comparison but at least its a lot closer now.


On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.comwrote:

 Dave, I blame you entirely.

 I got the monitor (Samsung 4K) and have mixed results. It's entirely
 dependant on what your graphics card can do.
 When I plug it into my desktop (sporting a GTX690) it only seems to
 support 2560x1440. That said there is a box to enter a custom res which I
 can select 3840x2160 @ 30hz. It won't go higher (which I think is normal
 see note following regarding QuadHD laptop).
 It works but it seems somewhat blurry. I'm not sure yet if I will use it
 at higher res or drop back to the one it wants to use. It seems way
 crisper/sharper at that. If I go that route then its an expensive Ultra
 monitor. (which is future proof when my graphics cards catch up).

 I did plug in my Samsung Book 9 plus which is QuadHD (on the laptop) and
 the output looked fantastic. So there's nothing wrong with the monitor. The
 laptop (using mini hdmi or whatever it is, a strange small connector) to
 HDMI did 3840x2160 @ 30hz and looked crisp and clear. I may end up putting
 my 30inch back in the middle (which is amazingly much larger considering 28
 vs 30 is only 2) and using the new samsung 4K monitor as second screen for
 my laptop. (I usually RDP to my laptops to get 4 screen support anyway
 so... ahh)

 So my take on this, if you have a new machine with Haswell chipset then
 I'd say go for it. Anything else and you may well be dissapointed (although
 it might trigger further graphics card upgrades which is always good haha)

 Stephen (your friendly neighbourhood Guinea Pig)


 On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.comwrote:

 Do you need some enabling?

 You should buy one Stephen. Then tell the rest of us how it is for
 coding/etc.


 On 21 May 2014 18:38, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote:

 Yeah I've been looking at that monitor for a week now. Austin Computers
 has them in stock.

 http://www.austin.net.au/shop-categories/monitor/samsung-u28d590d-28-3840-x-2160-widescreen-le.html

 To be honest I'm not even sure why I don't have one now. Delaying the
 impulse buy as long as I can... :)


 On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.comwrote:

 Anyone looking to get a U28D590D 4K / 3840 X 2160 monitor when they
 are released?

 Look pretty awesome..
 http://www.samsung.com/levant/consumer/computers-peripherals/monitors/led-monitor/LU28D590DS/ZN








[OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

2014-05-21 Thread Dave Walker
Anyone looking to get a U28D590D 4K / 3840 X 2160 monitor when they are
released?

Look pretty awesome..
http://www.samsung.com/levant/consumer/computers-peripherals/monitors/led-monitor/LU28D590DS/ZN


Re: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

2014-05-21 Thread Stephen Price
Yeah I've been looking at that monitor for a week now. Austin Computers has
them in stock.
http://www.austin.net.au/shop-categories/monitor/samsung-u28d590d-28-3840-x-2160-widescreen-le.html

To be honest I'm not even sure why I don't have one now. Delaying the
impulse buy as long as I can... :)


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone looking to get a U28D590D 4K / 3840 X 2160 monitor when they are
 released?

 Look pretty awesome..
 http://www.samsung.com/levant/consumer/computers-peripherals/monitors/led-monitor/LU28D590DS/ZN





Re: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

2014-05-21 Thread Dave Walker
Do you need some enabling?

You should buy one Stephen. Then tell the rest of us how it is for
coding/etc.


On 21 May 2014 18:38, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote:

 Yeah I've been looking at that monitor for a week now. Austin Computers
 has them in stock.

 http://www.austin.net.au/shop-categories/monitor/samsung-u28d590d-28-3840-x-2160-widescreen-le.html

 To be honest I'm not even sure why I don't have one now. Delaying the
 impulse buy as long as I can... :)


 On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.comwrote:

 Anyone looking to get a U28D590D 4K / 3840 X 2160 monitor when they are
 released?

 Look pretty awesome..
 http://www.samsung.com/levant/consumer/computers-peripherals/monitors/led-monitor/LU28D590DS/ZN






RE: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

2014-05-21 Thread Ken Schaefer
Already out – discussed on the list on the 9th…

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Dave Walker
Sent: Wednesday, 21 May 2014 9:31 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

Anyone looking to get a U28D590D 4K / 3840 X 2160 monitor when they are 
released?

Look pretty awesome.. 
http://www.samsung.com/levant/consumer/computers-peripherals/monitors/led-monitor/LU28D590DS/ZN




Re: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

2014-05-21 Thread Stephen Price
h don't encourage me like that!! i'm showing amazing restraint.

except for the surface pro 3. sigh.


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com wrote:

 Do you need some enabling?

 You should buy one Stephen. Then tell the rest of us how it is for
 coding/etc.


 On 21 May 2014 18:38, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote:

 Yeah I've been looking at that monitor for a week now. Austin Computers
 has them in stock.

 http://www.austin.net.au/shop-categories/monitor/samsung-u28d590d-28-3840-x-2160-widescreen-le.html

 To be honest I'm not even sure why I don't have one now. Delaying the
 impulse buy as long as I can... :)


 On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.comwrote:

 Anyone looking to get a U28D590D 4K / 3840 X 2160 monitor when they are
 released?

 Look pretty awesome..
 http://www.samsung.com/levant/consumer/computers-peripherals/monitors/led-monitor/LU28D590DS/ZN







RE: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

2014-05-21 Thread Ian Thomas
The dock for Surface 3 will drive your 4K screen, and there's a gigabit 
Ethernet dongle.
I'm impressed with reports on the pen / OneNote use (but  battery?)

Ian Thomas
Sent from my Nokia Lumia 920 - Windows Phone 8

From: Stephen Pricemailto:step...@perthprojects.com
Sent: ‎22/‎05/‎2014 0:37
To: ozDotNetmailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
Subject: Re: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

h don't encourage me like that!! i'm showing amazing restraint.

except for the surface pro 3. sigh.


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com wrote:

 Do you need some enabling?

 You should buy one Stephen. Then tell the rest of us how it is for
 coding/etc.


 On 21 May 2014 18:38, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote:

 Yeah I've been looking at that monitor for a week now. Austin Computers
 has them in stock.

 http://www.austin.net.au/shop-categories/monitor/samsung-u28d590d-28-3840-x-2160-widescreen-le.html

 To be honest I'm not even sure why I don't have one now. Delaying the
 impulse buy as long as I can... :)


 On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.comwrote:

 Anyone looking to get a U28D590D 4K / 3840 X 2160 monitor when they are
 released?

 Look pretty awesome..
 http://www.samsung.com/levant/consumer/computers-peripherals/monitors/led-monitor/LU28D590DS/ZN







RE: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

2014-05-21 Thread ILT (O)
Yes, I know the pens have been around a while (several Android devices, Windows 
laptops) – I knew the battery as D425 (looked up: same as ).

 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Ken Schaefer
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 8:48 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

 

It’s an N-Trig digitizer – they all use batteries.

 

Cheers

Ken

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Ian Thomas
Sent: Thursday, 22 May 2014 9:25 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

 

The dock for Surface 3 will drive your 4K screen, and there's a gigabit 
Ethernet dongle.
I'm impressed with reports on the pen / OneNote use (but  battery?)

Ian Thomas
Sent from my Nokia Lumia 920 - Windows Phone 8

  _  

From: Stephen Price mailto:step...@perthprojects.com 
Sent: ‎22/‎05/‎2014 0:37
To: ozDotNet mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com 
Subject: Re: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

h don't encourage me like that!! i'm showing amazing restraint.  

 

except for the surface pro 3. sigh.

 

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com wrote:

Do you need some enabling?  

 

You should buy one Stephen. Then tell the rest of us how it is for coding/etc.

 

On 21 May 2014 18:38, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote:

Yeah I've been looking at that monitor for a week now. Austin Computers has 
them in stock.  

http://www.austin.net.au/shop-categories/monitor/samsung-u28d590d-28-3840-x-2160-widescreen-le.html

 

To be honest I'm not even sure why I don't have one now. Delaying the impulse 
buy as long as I can... :)

 

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com wrote:

Anyone looking to get a U28D590D 4K / 3840 X 2160 monitor when they are 
released? 

 

Look pretty awesome.. 
http://www.samsung.com/levant/consumer/computers-peripherals/monitors/led-monitor/LU28D590DS/ZN

 

 

 

 

 



Re: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

2014-05-21 Thread Stephen Price
Don't really like the  batteries, my Dell Venue 8 has a pen that takes
that and it only lasted 3 months. They were also *REALLY* hard to find a
place that sell them and they don't have rechargables. At least I know
where to get them so will buy a stack of them. I hope they didn't change
from Wacom just for politics or whatever. ie a real reason to do so feature
wise. I couldn't find anything about them tho. Anyone got any info on what
N-Trig has over Wacom?


On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 9:14 AM, ILT (O) il.tho...@outlook.com wrote:

 Yes, I know the pens have been around a while (several Android devices,
 Windows laptops) – I knew the battery as D425 (looked up: same as ).


 --

 Ian Thomas
 Victoria Park, Western Australia

 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Schaefer
 *Sent:* Thursday, May 22, 2014 8:48 AM

 *To:* ozDotNet
 *Subject:* RE: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor



 It’s an N-Trig digitizer – they all use batteries.



 Cheers

 Ken



 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [
 mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Ian Thomas
 *Sent:* Thursday, 22 May 2014 9:25 AM
 *To:* ozDotNet
 *Subject:* RE: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor



 The dock for Surface 3 will drive your 4K screen, and there's a gigabit
 Ethernet dongle.
 I'm impressed with reports on the pen / OneNote use (but  battery?)

 Ian Thomas
 Sent from my Nokia Lumia 920 - Windows Phone 8
 --

 *From: *Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com
 *Sent: *‎22/‎05/‎2014 0:37
 *To: *ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
 *Subject: *Re: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

 h don't encourage me like that!! i'm showing amazing restraint.



 except for the surface pro 3. sigh.



 On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Do you need some enabling?



 You should buy one Stephen. Then tell the rest of us how it is for
 coding/etc.



 On 21 May 2014 18:38, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote:

 Yeah I've been looking at that monitor for a week now. Austin Computers
 has them in stock.


 http://www.austin.net.au/shop-categories/monitor/samsung-u28d590d-28-3840-x-2160-widescreen-le.html



 To be honest I'm not even sure why I don't have one now. Delaying the
 impulse buy as long as I can... :)



 On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Anyone looking to get a U28D590D 4K / 3840 X 2160 monitor when they are
 released?



 Look pretty awesome..
 http://www.samsung.com/levant/consumer/computers-peripherals/monitors/led-monitor/LU28D590DS/ZN













RE: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

2014-05-21 Thread Ken Schaefer
N-Trig’s traditionally had a bad rap. I think the Sony Vaio Flip is the only 
mainstream laptop that uses their latest tech DuoSense 2. Dunno if the Surface 
3 will have something newer/better, or DuoSense 2.

Cheers
Ken

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Stephen Price
Sent: Thursday, 22 May 2014 11:41 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

Don't really like the  batteries, my Dell Venue 8 has a pen that takes that 
and it only lasted 3 months. They were also *REALLY* hard to find a place that 
sell them and they don't have rechargables. At least I know where to get them 
so will buy a stack of them. I hope they didn't change from Wacom just for 
politics or whatever. ie a real reason to do so feature wise. I couldn't find 
anything about them tho. Anyone got any info on what N-Trig has over Wacom?

On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 9:14 AM, ILT (O) 
il.tho...@outlook.commailto:il.tho...@outlook.com wrote:
Yes, I know the pens have been around a while (several Android devices, Windows 
laptops) – I knew the battery as D425 (looked up: same as ).


Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Ken Schaefer
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 8:48 AM

To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

It’s an N-Trig digitizer – they all use batteries.

Cheers
Ken

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas
Sent: Thursday, 22 May 2014 9:25 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

The dock for Surface 3 will drive your 4K screen, and there's a gigabit 
Ethernet dongle.
I'm impressed with reports on the pen / OneNote use (but  battery?)

Ian Thomas
Sent from my Nokia Lumia 920 - Windows Phone 8

From: Stephen Pricemailto:step...@perthprojects.com
Sent: ‎22/‎05/‎2014 0:37
To: ozDotNetmailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
Subject: Re: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor
h don't encourage me like that!! i'm showing amazing restraint.

except for the surface pro 3. sigh.

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Dave Walker 
rangitat...@gmail.commailto:rangitat...@gmail.com wrote:
Do you need some enabling?

You should buy one Stephen. Then tell the rest of us how it is for coding/etc.

On 21 May 2014 18:38, Stephen Price 
step...@perthprojects.commailto:step...@perthprojects.com wrote:
Yeah I've been looking at that monitor for a week now. Austin Computers has 
them in stock.
http://www.austin.net.au/shop-categories/monitor/samsung-u28d590d-28-3840-x-2160-widescreen-le.html

To be honest I'm not even sure why I don't have one now. Delaying the impulse 
buy as long as I can... :)

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Dave Walker 
rangitat...@gmail.commailto:rangitat...@gmail.com wrote:
Anyone looking to get a U28D590D 4K / 3840 X 2160 monitor when they are 
released?

Look pretty awesome.. 
http://www.samsung.com/levant/consumer/computers-peripherals/monitors/led-monitor/LU28D590DS/ZN








RE: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

2014-05-21 Thread ILT (O)
This N-Trig page shows which Windows devices use their gear: 
http://www.n-trig.com/Content.aspx?Page=Windows8 

Anecdotally (sample size: 3) there have been driver problems. I also see some 
chatter on the web.

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Ken Schaefer
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 9:48 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

 

N-Trig’s traditionally had a bad rap. I think the Sony Vaio Flip is the only 
mainstream laptop that uses their latest tech DuoSense 2. Dunno if the Surface 
3 will have something newer/better, or DuoSense 2.

 

Cheers

Ken

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Stephen Price
Sent: Thursday, 22 May 2014 11:41 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

 

Don't really like the  batteries, my Dell Venue 8 has a pen that takes that 
and it only lasted 3 months. They were also *REALLY* hard to find a place that 
sell them and they don't have rechargables. At least I know where to get them 
so will buy a stack of them. I hope they didn't change from Wacom just for 
politics or whatever. ie a real reason to do so feature wise. I couldn't find 
anything about them tho. Anyone got any info on what N-Trig has over Wacom?

 

On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 9:14 AM, ILT (O) il.tho...@outlook.com wrote:

Yes, I know the pens have been around a while (several Android devices, Windows 
laptops) – I knew the battery as D425 (looked up: same as ).

 


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Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Ken Schaefer
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 8:48 AM


To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

 

It’s an N-Trig digitizer – they all use batteries.

 

Cheers

Ken

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Ian Thomas
Sent: Thursday, 22 May 2014 9:25 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

 

The dock for Surface 3 will drive your 4K screen, and there's a gigabit 
Ethernet dongle.
I'm impressed with reports on the pen / OneNote use (but  battery?)

Ian Thomas
Sent from my Nokia Lumia 920 - Windows Phone 8

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From: Stephen Price mailto:step...@perthprojects.com 
Sent: ‎22/‎05/‎2014 0:37
To: ozDotNet mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com 
Subject: Re: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

h don't encourage me like that!! i'm showing amazing restraint.  

 

except for the surface pro 3. sigh.

 

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com wrote:

Do you need some enabling?  

 

You should buy one Stephen. Then tell the rest of us how it is for coding/etc.

 

On 21 May 2014 18:38, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote:

Yeah I've been looking at that monitor for a week now. Austin Computers has 
them in stock.  

http://www.austin.net.au/shop-categories/monitor/samsung-u28d590d-28-3840-x-2160-widescreen-le.html

 

To be honest I'm not even sure why I don't have one now. Delaying the impulse 
buy as long as I can... :)

 

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com wrote:

Anyone looking to get a U28D590D 4K / 3840 X 2160 monitor when they are 
released? 

 

Look pretty awesome.. 
http://www.samsung.com/levant/consumer/computers-peripherals/monitors/led-monitor/LU28D590DS/ZN

 

 

 

 

 

 



Re: [OT] Samsung U28D590D 4K Monitor

2014-05-21 Thread Stephen Price
Dave, I blame you entirely.

I got the monitor (Samsung 4K) and have mixed results. It's entirely
dependant on what your graphics card can do.
When I plug it into my desktop (sporting a GTX690) it only seems to support
2560x1440. That said there is a box to enter a custom res which I can
select 3840x2160 @ 30hz. It won't go higher (which I think is normal see
note following regarding QuadHD laptop).
It works but it seems somewhat blurry. I'm not sure yet if I will use it at
higher res or drop back to the one it wants to use. It seems way
crisper/sharper at that. If I go that route then its an expensive Ultra
monitor. (which is future proof when my graphics cards catch up).

I did plug in my Samsung Book 9 plus which is QuadHD (on the laptop) and
the output looked fantastic. So there's nothing wrong with the monitor. The
laptop (using mini hdmi or whatever it is, a strange small connector) to
HDMI did 3840x2160 @ 30hz and looked crisp and clear. I may end up putting
my 30inch back in the middle (which is amazingly much larger considering 28
vs 30 is only 2) and using the new samsung 4K monitor as second screen for
my laptop. (I usually RDP to my laptops to get 4 screen support anyway
so... ahh)

So my take on this, if you have a new machine with Haswell chipset then I'd
say go for it. Anything else and you may well be dissapointed (although it
might trigger further graphics card upgrades which is always good haha)

Stephen (your friendly neighbourhood Guinea Pig)


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com wrote:

 Do you need some enabling?

 You should buy one Stephen. Then tell the rest of us how it is for
 coding/etc.


 On 21 May 2014 18:38, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote:

 Yeah I've been looking at that monitor for a week now. Austin Computers
 has them in stock.

 http://www.austin.net.au/shop-categories/monitor/samsung-u28d590d-28-3840-x-2160-widescreen-le.html

 To be honest I'm not even sure why I don't have one now. Delaying the
 impulse buy as long as I can... :)


 On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.comwrote:

 Anyone looking to get a U28D590D 4K / 3840 X 2160 monitor when they are
 released?

 Look pretty awesome..
 http://www.samsung.com/levant/consumer/computers-peripherals/monitors/led-monitor/LU28D590DS/ZN