SPS2010: Assigning a Farm-unique number to list items?
Good morning SharePoint gurus! I was brainstorming to find the best way to make a list where list items are allocated a Farm unique number on save. i.e. when an item is saved, one of the column values is CV0001000 , and the next item gets CV0001001 even if it is in another list in another site collection. Options under consideration: * The numbering feature in Information Management Policies seems to only apply to document libraries and not lists - is this true? * List Event Handler, backed up by a webservice to store the numbers in a centralised list somewhere * Custom Field Type with same custom webservice backing. * Hmmm... a better way? Any ideas? Cheers, J. James Boman Solution Architect [Description: Description: Description: i-pmo] [Description: Description: Description: i-pmotl] Telephone: +61 (08) 7200 1100 [Description: Description: Description: i-pmotl] Mobile: +61 (0) 417 857 298 [Description: Description: Description: i-pmotl] Web : http://www.i-pmo.com.auhttp://www.i-pmo.com.au/ [Description: Description: Description: i-pmotl] Skype : [Description: Description: Skype me]skype:JDBoman?call JDBomanskype:JDBoman?call [Description: Description: C:\Users\JBoman\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Signatures\iPMO_files\image004.png] inline: image001.jpginline: image002.jpginline: image003.pnginline: image004.png___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss
Re: SPS2010: Assigning a Farm-unique number to list items?
List Event Handler, backed up by a webservice to store the numbers in a centralised list somewhere That'll work, you need to ensure your webservice can support generation of a gazillion IDs in a nano-second and ensure they're all unique. What happens if the webservice is 'down' when you're requesting an ID from it? You could potentially create a custom SQL DB on the SharePoint DB Server and get that to generate unique integers for you too. A word of warning, by doing this your adding a dependency on something custom, and there's potential for things to go wrong. It also seems the new SharePoint Server 2010 Document ID service doesn't ensure uniqueness across a farm: http://www.hartsteve.com/2010/08/sharepoint-2010-document-id-non-uniqueness/ Although you can extend this with custom development of a custom document id provider to ensure farm wide uniqueness. You can also buy this functionality for MOSS 2007: http://www.macroview.com.au/Products/Pages/UniqueDocumentNumbering.aspx Sezai. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 3:06 PM, James Boman james.bo...@i-pmo.com.auwrote: Good morning SharePoint gurus! I was brainstorming to find the best way to make a list where list items are allocated a Farm unique number on save. i.e. when an item is saved, one of the column values is “CV0001000” , and the next item gets “CV0001001” even if it is in another list in another site collection. Options under consideration: · The numbering feature in Information Management Policies seems to only apply to document libraries and not lists – is this true? · List Event Handler, backed up by a webservice to store the numbers in a centralised list somewhere · Custom Field Type with same custom webservice backing. · Hmmm… a better way? Any ideas? Cheers, J. -- James Boman Solution Architect [image: Description: Description: Description: i-pmo] [image: Description: Description: Description: i-pmotl] Telephone: +61 (08) 7200 1100 [image: Description: Description: Description: i-pmotl] Mobile: +61 (0) 417 857 298 [image: Description: Description: Description: i-pmotl] Web : http://www.i-pmo.com.au [image: Description: Description: Description: i-pmotl] Skype : [image: Description: Description: Skype me] JDBoman [image: Description: Description: C:\Users\JBoman\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Signatures\iPMO_files\image004.png] ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss image004.pngimage002.jpgimage003.pngimage001.jpg___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss
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RE: SPS2010: Assigning a Farm-unique number to list items?
Whoa. Déjà vu. From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of James Boman Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2010 6:07 PM To: ozMOSS Subject: SPS2010: Assigning a Farm-unique number to list items? Good morning SharePoint gurus! I was brainstorming to find the best way to make a list where list items are allocated a Farm unique number on save. i.e. when an item is saved, one of the column values is CV0001000 , and the next item gets CV0001001 even if it is in another list in another site collection. Options under consideration: * The numbering feature in Information Management Policies seems to only apply to document libraries and not lists - is this true? * List Event Handler, backed up by a webservice to store the numbers in a centralised list somewhere * Custom Field Type with same custom webservice backing. * Hmmm... a better way? Any ideas? Cheers, J. James Boman Solution Architect [cid:image001.jpg@01CB71C1.7F368F60] [cid:image002.jpg@01CB71C1.7F368F60] Telephone: +61 (08) 7200 1100 [cid:image002.jpg@01CB71C1.7F368F60] Mobile: +61 (0) 417 857 298 [cid:image002.jpg@01CB71C1.7F368F60] Web : http://www.i-pmo.com.auhttp://www.i-pmo.com.au/ [cid:image002.jpg@01CB71C1.7F368F60] Skype : [cid:image003.png@01CB71C1.7F368F60]skype:JDBoman?call JDBomanskype:JDBoman?call [cid:image004.png@01CB71C1.7F368F60] inline: image001.jpginline: image002.jpginline: image003.pnginline: image004.png___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss
RE: SPS2010: Assigning a Farm-unique number to list items?
Here is a good link on creating your own provider: http://www.zimmergren.net/archive/2010/04/13/sp-2010-sharepoint-server-2010-creating-your-custom-document-id-provider.aspx Couple of things... it is mainly executed by a timer job rather than real-time and you have the ability to re-seed/replace all previous ID's with new ones too. Regards, Paul Turner MCT, MCPD: Enterprise, MCSD, MCDBA, MCTS, MSF, Microsoft vTSP Consultant M: 0412 748 168 A: 66 Henley Beach Road, Mile End SA 5031 E: paul.tur...@dws.com.aumailto:paul.tur...@dws.com.au W: www.dws.com.auhttp://www.dws.com.au/ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are only for the use of the person to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient you have received this email in error and are requested to delete it immediately. Any opinion expressed in this e-mail may not necessarily be that of DWS Pty Ltd. Please consider the environment before printing this email. From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Friday, 22 October 2010 7:47 AM To: ozMOSS Subject: RE: SPS2010: Assigning a Farm-unique number to list items? Whoa. Déjà vu. From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of James Boman Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2010 6:07 PM To: ozMOSS Subject: SPS2010: Assigning a Farm-unique number to list items? Good morning SharePoint gurus! I was brainstorming to find the best way to make a list where list items are allocated a Farm unique number on save. i.e. when an item is saved, one of the column values is CV0001000 , and the next item gets CV0001001 even if it is in another list in another site collection. Options under consideration: * The numbering feature in Information Management Policies seems to only apply to document libraries and not lists - is this true? * List Event Handler, backed up by a webservice to store the numbers in a centralised list somewhere * Custom Field Type with same custom webservice backing. * Hmmm... a better way? Any ideas? Cheers, J. James Boman Solution Architect [cid:image001.jpg@01CB71BF.3086BD60] [cid:image002.jpg@01CB71BF.3086BD60] Telephone: +61 (08) 7200 1100 [cid:image002.jpg@01CB71BF.3086BD60] Mobile: +61 (0) 417 857 298 [cid:image002.jpg@01CB71BF.3086BD60] Web : http://www.i-pmo.com.auhttp://www.i-pmo.com.au/ [cid:image002.jpg@01CB71BF.3086BD60] Skype : [cid:image003.png@01CB71BF.3086BD60]skype:JDBoman?call JDBomanskype:JDBoman?call [cid:image004.png@01CB71BF.3086BD60] inline: image001.jpginline: image002.jpginline: image003.pnginline: image004.png___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss
RE: SPS2010: Assigning a Farm-unique number to list items?
I have used this approach but found it to be unreliable and ended up resorting back to a custom event handler on the list. We store the previous Id value in the property bag of the website but you could just as easily store in the farm property bag to be used by all site collections. From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Turner Sent: Friday, 22 October 2010 8:00 AM To: ozMOSS Subject: RE: SPS2010: Assigning a Farm-unique number to list items? Here is a good link on creating your own provider: http://www.zimmergren.net/archive/2010/04/13/sp-2010-sharepoint-server-2010-creating-your-custom-document-id-provider.aspx Couple of things... it is mainly executed by a timer job rather than real-time and you have the ability to re-seed/replace all previous ID's with new ones too. Regards, Paul Turner MCT, MCPD: Enterprise, MCSD, MCDBA, MCTS, MSF, Microsoft vTSP Consultant M: 0412 748 168 A: 66 Henley Beach Road, Mile End SA 5031 E: paul.tur...@dws.com.aumailto:paul.tur...@dws.com.au W: www.dws.com.auhttp://www.dws.com.au/ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are only for the use of the person to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient you have received this email in error and are requested to delete it immediately. Any opinion expressed in this e-mail may not necessarily be that of DWS Pty Ltd. Please consider the environment before printing this email. From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Friday, 22 October 2010 7:47 AM To: ozMOSS Subject: RE: SPS2010: Assigning a Farm-unique number to list items? Whoa. Déjà vu. From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of James Boman Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2010 6:07 PM To: ozMOSS Subject: SPS2010: Assigning a Farm-unique number to list items? Good morning SharePoint gurus! I was brainstorming to find the best way to make a list where list items are allocated a Farm unique number on save. i.e. when an item is saved, one of the column values is CV0001000 , and the next item gets CV0001001 even if it is in another list in another site collection. Options under consideration: * The numbering feature in Information Management Policies seems to only apply to document libraries and not lists - is this true? * List Event Handler, backed up by a webservice to store the numbers in a centralised list somewhere * Custom Field Type with same custom webservice backing. * Hmmm... a better way? Any ideas? Cheers, J. James Boman Solution Architect [cid:image001.jpg@01CB71C1.AECAE370] [cid:image002.jpg@01CB71C1.AECAE370] Telephone: +61 (08) 7200 1100 [cid:image002.jpg@01CB71C1.AECAE370] Mobile: +61 (0) 417 857 298 [cid:image002.jpg@01CB71C1.AECAE370] Web : http://www.i-pmo.com.auhttp://www.i-pmo.com.au/ [cid:image002.jpg@01CB71C1.AECAE370] Skype : [cid:image003.png@01CB71C1.AECAE370]skype:JDBoman?call JDBomanskype:JDBoman?call [cid:image004.png@01CB71C1.AECAE370] SAGE is the first and only Australian company certified to the global benchmark standards of the Control Systems Integration Association. To see how this benefits you, simply visit www.controlsys.org Disclaimer: The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the use of the person(s) to whom it is addressed and may be confidential or contain legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any perusal, use, distribution, copying, modification or disclosure is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please immediately advise us by return e-mail and delete the document without making a copy. No warranty is made that any attachments are free from viruses. It is the recipient's responsibility to establish its own protection against viruses and other damage. inline: image001.jpginline: image002.jpginline: image003.pnginline: image004.png___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss
RE: SPS2010: Assigning a Farm-unique number to list items?
Just my 2 roubles...and bear in mind these are the freestyle ramblings of a SharePoint novice. If this is purely a knowledge management extension that applies to documents I would be looking at a separate database with an auto-increment field and an event receiver on a custom doc lib to capture new items. If you want to be consistent I'd use a feature receiver attached to a custom site template that created the library and attached the event receiver at site creation. I'd forget all about trying to add the unique ID as a field on the SharePoint libraries cos you'll run into all manner of hell having no access to list item properties during the ItemAdding event; not to mention any delays or issues with the web service itself. The event receiver could capture the details of any new items with SPItemEventReceiver.ItemAdded and write them to the other DB. The only issue I see is with collisions and delays. Maybe writing them to a local file which the web service could hit periodically? You could then manage it all via a BDC webpart or custom UI. Or something. :) From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Turner Sent: Friday, 22 October 2010 8:30 AM To: ozMOSS Subject: RE: SPS2010: Assigning a Farm-unique number to list items? Here is a good link on creating your own provider: http://www.zimmergren.net/archive/2010/04/13/sp-2010-sharepoint-server-2010-creating-your-custom-document-id-provider.aspx Couple of things... it is mainly executed by a timer job rather than real-time and you have the ability to re-seed/replace all previous ID's with new ones too. Regards, Paul Turner MCT, MCPD: Enterprise, MCSD, MCDBA, MCTS, MSF, Microsoft vTSP Consultant M: 0412 748 168 A: 66 Henley Beach Road, Mile End SA 5031 E: paul.tur...@dws.com.aumailto:paul.tur...@dws.com.au W: www.dws.com.auhttp://www.dws.com.au/ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are only for the use of the person to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient you have received this email in error and are requested to delete it immediately. Any opinion expressed in this e-mail may not necessarily be that of DWS Pty Ltd. Please consider the environment before printing this email. From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Friday, 22 October 2010 7:47 AM To: ozMOSS Subject: RE: SPS2010: Assigning a Farm-unique number to list items? Whoa. Déjà vu. From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of James Boman Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2010 6:07 PM To: ozMOSS Subject: SPS2010: Assigning a Farm-unique number to list items? Good morning SharePoint gurus! I was brainstorming to find the best way to make a list where list items are allocated a Farm unique number on save. i.e. when an item is saved, one of the column values is CV0001000 , and the next item gets CV0001001 even if it is in another list in another site collection. Options under consideration: * The numbering feature in Information Management Policies seems to only apply to document libraries and not lists - is this true? * List Event Handler, backed up by a webservice to store the numbers in a centralised list somewhere * Custom Field Type with same custom webservice backing. * Hmmm... a better way? Any ideas? Cheers, J. James Boman Solution Architect [cid:image001.jpg@01CB71C3.E0393CC0] [cid:image002.jpg@01CB71C3.E0393CC0] Telephone: +61 (08) 7200 1100 [cid:image002.jpg@01CB71C3.E0393CC0] Mobile: +61 (0) 417 857 298 [cid:image002.jpg@01CB71C3.E0393CC0] Web : http://www.i-pmo.com.auhttp://www.i-pmo.com.au/ [cid:image002.jpg@01CB71C3.E0393CC0] Skype : [cid:image003.png@01CB71C3.E0393CC0]skype:JDBoman?call JDBomanskype:JDBoman?call [cid:image004.png@01CB71C3.E0393CC0] inline: image001.jpginline: image002.jpginline: image003.pnginline: image004.png___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss
Re: SPS2010: Assigning a Farm-unique number to list items?
Been there, tried that, you can face race conditions, or concurrent update
problems updating a property on an SPWeb property bag in this scenario.
eg. 10 docs request an id via event receivers at the same time. As one event
receiver fires, it tries to increment the id in the property at the same
time as another receiver. ie. you can't lock the SPWeb property to ensure
uniqueness and that ids are generated in an orderly and timely fashion.
Check out this gem:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc303696(office.12).aspx *Generating
Unique IDs in Windows SharePoint Services 3.0*
This article tries to address the concurrency update issue with list items,
based on experience the same problem happens with SPWeb properties.
*Read the comments, they're gold.*
*
*
*I particularly love this code, Thread.Sleep(2500) For the win :*
*
*
*
// Handle the exception by retrying 5 times
retryCounter += 1;
if (retryCounter = 5)
{
System.Threading.Thread.Sleep(2500);
goto ReTry;
}
else
{
// Write the exception to the log
}
*
Sezai.
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 5:48 AM, Jason Taylor jason.tay...@gotosage.comwrote:
I have used this approach but found it to be unreliable and ended up
resorting back to a custom event handler on the list. We store the previous
Id value in the property bag of the website but you could just as easily
store in the farm property bag to be used by all site collections.
*From:* ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] *On
Behalf Of *Paul Turner
*Sent:* Friday, 22 October 2010 8:00 AM
*To:* ozMOSS
*Subject:* RE: SPS2010: Assigning a Farm-unique number to list items?
Here is a good link on creating your own provider:
http://www.zimmergren.net/archive/2010/04/13/sp-2010-sharepoint-server-2010-creating-your-custom-document-id-provider.aspx
Couple of things… it is mainly executed by a timer job rather than
real-time and you have the ability to re-seed/replace all previous ID’s with
new ones too.
* *
*Regards,*
*Paul Turner
*MCT, MCPD: Enterprise, MCSD, MCDBA, MCTS, MSF, Microsoft vTSP
*Consultant
*
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A: 66 Henley Beach Road, Mile End SA 5031
E: **paul.tur...@dws.com.au** W: **www.dws.com.au*
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*From:* ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] *On
Behalf Of *Paul Noone
*Sent:* Friday, 22 October 2010 7:47 AM
*To:* ozMOSS
*Subject:* RE: SPS2010: Assigning a Farm-unique number to list items?
Whoa. Déjà vu.
*From:* ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] *On
Behalf Of *James Boman
*Sent:* Thursday, 21 October 2010 6:07 PM
*To:* ozMOSS
*Subject:* SPS2010: Assigning a Farm-unique number to list items?
Good morning SharePoint gurus!
I was brainstorming to find the best way to make a list where list items
are allocated a Farm unique number on save.
i.e. when an item is saved, one of the column values is “CV0001000” , and
the next item gets “CV0001001” even if it is in another list in another site
collection.
Options under consideration:
· The numbering feature in Information Management Policies seems
to only apply to document libraries and not lists – is this true?
· List Event Handler, backed up by a webservice to store the
numbers in a centralised list somewhere
· Custom Field Type with same custom webservice backing.
· Hmmm… a better way?
Any ideas?
Cheers,
J.
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Mate, Looks really good. Well done. One suggestion: Initially the site loads at ~800kb (which can be quiet slow for slower internet connection). The main reason for this is the core.js (and other javascripts) that is loaded. If public users don't need to see SP-related javascript functionalities (e.g. site actions) you can probably hide this from public view. [cid:image001.png@01CB71E8.14D33B10] The script is obviously cached after that and the page size is down to ~120-150kb. Other than that looks really good. Well done. Tommy Segoro Solutions Architect and Practice Lead [cid:image002.png@01CB71E8.14D33B10] L7 Solutions Pty Ltd www.L7.com.auhttp://www.L7.com.au 2005 Aust/NZ Cisco Partner of the Year 2006 WA Business News Rising Star - 5th Fastest growing WA private company 2008 BRW Fast 100 - 18th Fastest growing company in Australia 2009 CRN Fast 50 - 27th Fastest growing IT Reseller in Australia 2010 MSP Mentor Top 100 - Globally the 27th fastest growing Managed Service Partner T: +61 8 9221 7744 F: +61 8 9221 8199 M: +61 404 457 754 Level 14 256 Adelaide Terrace Perth WA 6000 PO Box 3044 Adelaide Terrace WA 6832 From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Friday, 22 October 2010 11:27 AM To: ozMOSS Subject: New site launch Hi guys, It's been a long time coming but with great trepidation I am finally proud to announce the launch of our new Internet site running on MOSS 2007. Please give it a look-see when you have time. Any feedback would be most welcome as UAT was mostly restricted to non-techies. www.ceosyd.catholic.edu.auhttp://www.ceosyd.catholic.edu.au Kind regards, Paul Noone --- Online Developer/Administrator Information Communication and Technology Catholic Education Office, Sydney p: (02) 9568 8461 f: (02) 9568 8483 e: paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.aumailto:paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.au w: http://www.ceosyd.catholic.edu.au/ inline: image001.pnginline: image002.png___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss
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Yeah, I agree. Especially with the addition of the jQuery and associated plugins. At the moment we're only running a single masterpage. Is the simplest fix to create another one without SharePoint:ScriptLink name=init.js defer=true runat=server/ and use that as the custom master? Also, for some daft reason the search service is still trying to index the old site which used the same host header. I've dumped the index and run a few full crawls with no success. Something appears to be cached somewhere. Any ideas? Do I need to restart the search service or something? Regards, Paul -- Online Developer/Administrator, ICT Projects Team CEO Sydney From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Tommy Segoro Sent: Friday, 22 October 2010 3:54 PM To: ozMOSS Subject: RE: New site launch Mate, Looks really good. Well done. One suggestion: Initially the site loads at ~800kb (which can be quiet slow for slower internet connection). The main reason for this is the core.js (and other javascripts) that is loaded. If public users don't need to see SP-related javascript functionalities (e.g. site actions) you can probably hide this from public view. [cid:image001.png@01CB7202.55AC08F0] The script is obviously cached after that and the page size is down to ~120-150kb. Other than that looks really good. Well done. Tommy Segoro Solutions Architect and Practice Lead [cid:image002.png@01CB7202.55AC08F0] L7 Solutions Pty Ltd www.L7.com.auhttp://www.L7.com.au 2005 Aust/NZ Cisco Partner of the Year 2006 WA Business News Rising Star - 5th Fastest growing WA private company 2008 BRW Fast 100 - 18th Fastest growing company in Australia 2009 CRN Fast 50 - 27th Fastest growing IT Reseller in Australia 2010 MSP Mentor Top 100 - Globally the 27th fastest growing Managed Service Partner T: +61 8 9221 7744 F: +61 8 9221 8199 M: +61 404 457 754 Level 14 256 Adelaide Terrace Perth WA 6000 PO Box 3044 Adelaide Terrace WA 6832 From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Friday, 22 October 2010 11:27 AM To: ozMOSS Subject: New site launch Hi guys, It's been a long time coming but with great trepidation I am finally proud to announce the launch of our new Internet site running on MOSS 2007. Please give it a look-see when you have time. Any feedback would be most welcome as UAT was mostly restricted to non-techies. www.ceosyd.catholic.edu.auhttp://www.ceosyd.catholic.edu.au Kind regards, Paul Noone --- Online Developer/Administrator Information Communication and Technology Catholic Education Office, Sydney p: (02) 9568 8461 f: (02) 9568 8483 e: paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.aumailto:paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.au w: http://www.ceosyd.catholic.edu.au/ inline: image001.pnginline: image002.png___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss
Re: New site launch
If you remove core.js. The search button click won't work, note if you mouse over the button it displays *javascript:S78D07080_Submit() *which is dependent on core.js You're also exposing list forms and other backend /_layouts/*.aspx pages in this site, the bulk of these also rely on core.js for functioning. Now if you weren't using list forms (by enabling ViewFormPagesLockdown), and if you developed your own search box and button control you could probably remove core.js, although as it stands now users need core.js to use your site. For your search crawling issue, if you log into the server that doing the indexing, open up IE and you try and browse to your site, you can tell if the server is able to get to the new site, if it still loads the old site, or if it fails to load at all (loopback fix?) then you know that the search crawler won't be able to get to your site either. Sezai. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Paul Noone paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.au wrote: Yeah, I agree. Especially with the addition of the jQuery and associated plugins. At the moment we’re only running a single masterpage. Is the simplest fix to create another one without SharePoint:ScriptLink name=init.js defer =true runat=server/ and use that as the custom master? Also, for some daft reason the search service is still trying to index the old site which used the same host header. I’ve dumped the index and run a few full crawls with no success. Something appears to be cached somewhere. Any ideas? Do I need to restart the search service or something? Regards, Paul -- Online Developer/Administrator, ICT Projects Team *CEO Sydney* *From:* ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] *On Behalf Of *Tommy Segoro *Sent:* Friday, 22 October 2010 3:54 PM *To:* ozMOSS *Subject:* RE: New site launch Mate, Looks really good. Well done. One suggestion: Initially the site loads at ~800kb (which can be quiet slow for slower internet connection). The main reason for this is the core.js (and other javascripts) that is loaded. If public users don’t need to see SP-related javascript functionalities (e.g. site actions) you can probably hide this from public view. The script is obviously cached after that and the page size is down to ~120-150kb. Other than that looks really good. Well done. *Tommy Segoro* Solutions Architect and Practice Lead [image: cid:image001.png@01CAC5C2.CA4CD280] L7 Solutions Pty Ltd www.L7.com.au 2005 Aust/NZ *Cisco Partner of the Year*** 2006 WA Business News* *Rising Star - *5th Fastest growing WA private company* 2008 BRW Fast 100 - *18th Fastest growing company in Australia”* 2009 CRN Fast 50 - *27th Fastest growing IT Reseller in Australia* 2010 MSP Mentor Top 100 - “*Globally the 27th fastest growing Managed Service Partner”* T: +61 8 9221 7744 F: +61 8 9221 8199 M: +61 404 457 754 Level 14 256 Adelaide Terrace Perth WA 6000 PO Box 3044 Adelaide Terrace WA 6832 *From:* ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul Noone *Sent:* Friday, 22 October 2010 11:27 AM *To:* ozMOSS *Subject:* New site launch Hi guys, It’s been a long time coming but with great trepidation I am finally proud to announce the launch of our new Internet site running on MOSS 2007. Please give it a look-see when you have time. Any feedback would be most welcome as UAT was mostly restricted to non-techies. www.ceosyd.catholic.edu.au Kind regards, Paul Noone --- Online Developer/Administrator Information Communication and Technology Catholic Education Office, Sydney p: (02) 9568 8461 f: (02) 9568 8483 e: paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.au w: http://www.ceosyd.catholic.edu.au/ ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss image002.pngimage001.png___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss
