SharePoint 2013 wiki timeout
The SharePoint 2013 wiki page won't save any changes after 30 minutes. Steps to reproduce: 1. Switch to edit mode on a web part/wiki page in the browser 2. Type some content 3. Wait 31 minutes 4. Click Save No error, but your text changes are not saved. Change the security timeout setting in Central Admin - Web Application - General Settings from the default 30 minutes and you can affect the duration of this issue. Has anyone else experienced clients losing all of their work on a wiki page because of this issue? Any specific issues with setting the timeout to never? Ivan ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss
Re: SharePoint 2013 wiki timeout
I saw it as a training issue and instructed users to save often, which in my books is good practice anyway. But I agree that some kind of warning could be provided. Regards, Paul On 10 July 2013 11:16, Chris Grist chris.gr...@beachenergy.com.au wrote: Yes we have that issue, but its not 30 mins will have to see what its set to. ** ** *From:* ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] *On Behalf Of *Ivan Wilson *Sent:* Wednesday, 10 July 2013 9:25 AM *To:* 'ozMOSS' *Subject:* SharePoint 2013 wiki timeout ** ** The SharePoint 2013 wiki page won’t save any changes after 30 minutes. ** ** Steps to reproduce: **1. **Switch to edit mode on a web part/wiki page in the browser ** ** **2. **Type some content **3. **Wait 31 minutes **4. **Click Save ** ** No error, but your text changes are not saved. ** ** Change the security timeout setting in Central Admin – Web Application – General Settings from the default 30 minutes and you can affect the duration of this issue. ** ** Has anyone else experienced clients losing all of their work on a wiki page because of this issue? Any specific issues with setting the timeout to “never”? ** ** Ivan ** ** ___ This message is intended only for the use of the addressee. This email and any attachments are confidential and may contain legally privileged information or copyright material. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by telephone on +61 8 8338 2833 or by return email and delete the original message. It is important to check for viruses and defects before opening or using attachments. Beach Energy Limited accepts no liability for any damage caused by this email or its attachments due to viruses, interference, interception, corruption or unauthorised access. Thank you. Please consider the environment before printing this email. ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss
Re: Migration issue
Version and absolute URL are not available as Quick Parts. I'd create a content type and add a Version (numeric) field so people can decide when this should change, rather than SharePoint. For the file path you're going to have trouble though. Only way I can think is to set a field's value via a workflow. Both could then be added to a template footer as Quick Parts. As for legacy documents...there's no way I know to update these easily. I did see a batch XML converter around but I don't think it could handle these kind of changes. On 10 July 2013 06:49, Nigel Witherdin nigel_wither...@hotmail.com wrote: Hey guys, We are currently migrating content from from legacy doc mgmt systems into SP2010, and I have come across a sticky requirement. The doc mgmt system we are migrating from had a plugin to office that allowed the users to click a button and insert the file location and version number into the footer of the document. They like this functionality and see it as essential to exist in the new system. For docs created within sharepoint, no problem. I can have a doc template that uses quick parts in the footer to display the items URL and version number (I assume), but that doesn't help for existing docs that are migrated into SP. The other possible solution is to write a macro or customize word to provide a button that injects the required info into the footer (from the document's properties?), but I haven't really done anything like this before, so not sure how viable this is. What do you think, any suggestions on how I could solve this? Many thanks, nigel ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss
RE: Migration issue
Would creating an Office plugin (a button) that injects the values into the footer from the document's properties be feasible? I think I have gotten version number in a footer in the document template by creating it as a label in the Info Mgmt Policy for the doc's content type before (so it can then be used in the template), but this doesn't really help me for the existing documents. My other solution is shudder an event receiver that embeds the info into the footer. Oh - this has to work for DOCs and DOCXs. Again, would appreciate your thoughts - thanks guys! Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 11:41:00 +1000 Subject: Re: Migration issue From: web.ad...@syd.catholic.edu.au To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Version and absolute URL are not available as Quick Parts. I'd create a content type and add a Version (numeric) field so people can decide when this should change, rather than SharePoint. For the file path you're going to have trouble though. Only way I can think is to set a field's value via a workflow. Both could then be added to a template footer as Quick Parts. As for legacy documents...there's no way I know to update these easily. I did see a batch XML converter around but I don't think it could handle these kind of changes. On 10 July 2013 06:49, Nigel Witherdin nigel_wither...@hotmail.com wrote: Hey guys, We are currently migrating content from from legacy doc mgmt systems into SP2010, and I have come across a sticky requirement. The doc mgmt system we are migrating from had a plugin to office that allowed the users to click a button and insert the file location and version number into the footer of the document. They like this functionality and see it as essential to exist in the new system. For docs created within sharepoint, no problem. I can have a doc template that uses quick parts in the footer to display the items URL and version number (I assume), but that doesn't help for existing docs that are migrated into SP. The other possible solution is to write a macro or customize word to provide a button that injects the required info into the footer (from the document's properties?), but I haven't really done anything like this before, so not sure how viable this is. What do you think, any suggestions on how I could solve this? Many thanks, nigel ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss
RE: Migration issue
Nigel - you are sending conflicting messages as to what you want to do. Lets put aside new documents and focus on documents in the system: 1. An event handler will not help, since there are no events running on the documents - you will need to edit the document properties or the documents to trigger the event handler - requiring you to edit each and every document 2. A button will not help, since it still requires you to open each document, press the button and save 3. A template will not help, since existing documents are not using the template It seems to me that your best choice is to write an application that edits the documents. You will need a way to differentiate between new ones and migrated ones, and you will need code that runs on the server that can update the document content. [Description: Description: C:\Users\Brian\Pictures\EXD Logos\Extelligent logo no text.jpg]Ishai Sagi | Solutions Architect 0488 789 786 | is...@exd.com.aumailto:is...@exd.com.au | www.sharepoint-tips.comhttp://www.sharepoint-tips.com/ | @ishaisagihttp://twitter.com/ishaisagi | MVP Profilehttps://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Ishai From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Nigel Witherdin Sent: Wednesday, 10 July 2013 12:15 PM To: OzMoss; Conrad Grobler Subject: RE: Migration issue Would creating an Office plugin (a button) that injects the values into the footer from the document's properties be feasible? I think I have gotten version number in a footer in the document template by creating it as a label in the Info Mgmt Policy for the doc's content type before (so it can then be used in the template), but this doesn't really help me for the existing documents. My other solution is shudder an event receiver that embeds the info into the footer. Oh - this has to work for DOCs and DOCXs. Again, would appreciate your thoughts - thanks guys! Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 11:41:00 +1000 Subject: Re: Migration issue From: web.ad...@syd.catholic.edu.aumailto:web.ad...@syd.catholic.edu.au To: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com Version and absolute URL are not available as Quick Parts. I'd create a content type and add a Version (numeric) field so people can decide when this should change, rather than SharePoint. For the file path you're going to have trouble though. Only way I can think is to set a field's value via a workflow. Both could then be added to a template footer as Quick Parts. As for legacy documents...there's no way I know to update these easily. I did see a batch XML converter around but I don't think it could handle these kind of changes. On 10 July 2013 06:49, Nigel Witherdin nigel_wither...@hotmail.commailto:nigel_wither...@hotmail.com wrote: Hey guys, We are currently migrating content from from legacy doc mgmt systems into SP2010, and I have come across a sticky requirement. The doc mgmt system we are migrating from had a plugin to office that allowed the users to click a button and insert the file location and version number into the footer of the document. They like this functionality and see it as essential to exist in the new system. For docs created within sharepoint, no problem. I can have a doc template that uses quick parts in the footer to display the items URL and version number (I assume), but that doesn't help for existing docs that are migrated into SP. The other possible solution is to write a macro or customize word to provide a button that injects the required info into the footer (from the document's properties?), but I haven't really done anything like this before, so not sure how viable this is. What do you think, any suggestions on how I could solve this? Many thanks, nigel ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss inline: image001.jpginline: image002.jpg___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss
Re: Migration issue
A whole world of pain basically. New docs aren't the problem really. It's the existing ones you'll have problems with. Deal with them first. The simplest solution is for them to accept that this is a new system and use content types and DispForm.aspx to display the metadata. Not your fault they have multiple Office version docs. I'd ignore the document path info for now cos it's going to change anyway. But if the Version info exists in the legacy system, u might want to query that and export to a spreadsheet. You could then use PowerShell to automate the field update against the filename after you upload them. On 10 July 2013 14:49, Ishai Sagi is...@exd.com.au wrote: Nigel – you are sending conflicting messages as to what you want to do. Lets put aside new documents and focus on documents in the system: **1. **An event handler will not help, since there are no events running on the documents – you will need to edit the document properties or the documents to trigger the event handler – requiring you to edit each and every document **2. **A button will not help, since it still requires you to open each document, press the button and save **3. **A template will not help, since existing documents are not using the template ** ** It seems to me that your best choice is to write an application that edits the documents. You will need a way to differentiate between new ones and migrated ones, and you will need code that runs on the server that can update the document content. ** ** ** ** **[image: Description: Description: C:\Users\Brian\Pictures\EXD Logos\Extelligent logo no text.jpg]***Ishai Sagi* | Solutions Architect 0488 789 786 | is...@exd.com.au | www.sharepoint-tips.com | @ishaisagihttp://twitter.com/ishaisagi | MVP Profile https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Ishai ** ** *From:* ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] *On Behalf Of *Nigel Witherdin *Sent:* Wednesday, 10 July 2013 12:15 PM *To:* OzMoss; Conrad Grobler *Subject:* RE: Migration issue ** ** Would creating an Office plugin (a button) that injects the values into the footer from the document's properties be feasible? ** ** I think I have gotten version number in a footer in the document template by creating it as a label in the Info Mgmt Policy for the doc's content type before (so it can then be used in the template), but this doesn't really help me for the existing documents. ** ** My other solution is shudder an event receiver that embeds the info into the footer. ** ** Oh - this has to work for DOCs and DOCXs. ** ** Again, would appreciate your thoughts - thanks guys! -- Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 11:41:00 +1000 Subject: Re: Migration issue From: web.ad...@syd.catholic.edu.au To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Version and absolute URL are not available as Quick Parts. ** ** I'd create a content type and add a Version (numeric) field so people can decide when this should change, rather than SharePoint. ** ** For the file path you're going to have trouble though. Only way I can think is to set a field's value via a workflow. ** ** Both could then be added to a template footer as Quick Parts. ** ** As for legacy documents...there's no way I know to update these easily. I did see a batch XML converter around but I don't think it could handle these kind of changes. On 10 July 2013 06:49, Nigel Witherdin nigel_wither...@hotmail.com wrote: Hey guys, We are currently migrating content from from legacy doc mgmt systems into SP2010, and I have come across a sticky requirement. The doc mgmt system we are migrating from had a plugin to office that allowed the users to click a button and insert the file location and version number into the footer of the document. They like this functionality and see it as essential to exist in the new system. For docs created within sharepoint, no problem. I can have a doc template that uses quick parts in the footer to display the items URL and version number (I assume), but that doesn't help for existing docs that are migrated into SP. The other possible solution is to write a macro or customize word to provide a button that injects the required info into the footer (from the document's properties?), but I haven't really done anything like this before, so not sure how viable this is. What do you think, any suggestions on how I could solve this? Many thanks, nigel ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ** ** ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss*** * ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com