Re: Best Prectice for naming sites
Oh hell yes! Naming conventions are important EVERYWHERE. XD On 12 September 2013 12:20, Sezai Komur sharepointse...@gmail.com wrote: whoah 2,000 characters is way to long. A descriptive page URL, containing words, delimited by dashes is a good thing. You shouldn't make it excessively long and stuff in extra words. I'm talking less than a hundred characters. If a page title is something like... How long should my page URL be. I think the page URL is good if it is * http://yourdomain/subsiteurl/pages/how-long-should-my-page-url-be.aspx*http://yourdomain/subsiteurl/pages/how-long-should-my-page-url-be.aspx * *which isn't thousands of characters. So I agree with your statement that extremely long URLs are usually a mistake I would say they're *always* a mistake, if you're implying that extremely is thousands of characters. Now that's for pages. I've seen the URL limits hit in SharePoint before, but this was in *document libraries*. Where you have many nested folders, with long folder names, and then users try uploading documents to them where the document file name is also long. In that scenario - yeah nested folders are going to bite you hard. Sezai. On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Web Admin web.ad...@syd.catholic.edu.auwrote: This is not just a SharePoint restriction. Extremely long URLs are usually a mistake. *URLs over 2,000 characters will not work in the most popular web browser.* Don't use them if you intend your site to work for the majority of Internet users. This goes for search engines as well. Regards, Paul On 12 September 2013 11:42, Nigel Witherdin nigel_wither...@hotmail.comwrote: Worth noting that there are URL size limitations in SP2010: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff919564(v=office.14).aspx -- Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 13:00:33 +0800 Subject: Re: Best Prectice for naming sites From: sharepointse...@gmail.com To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com I does do it for... Search Engines though. Having many words in the URL that are dash delimeted is good for SEO, improves search engine ranking. What's wrong with long descriptive names in a page URL? Are you trying to conserve bytes being sent across your network cables? If you were to do this though - I too prefer a Client-Side implementation of this compared to event receivers on pages libraries. Going back to the original question of naming sites. Call them whatever makes most sense to you. I agree with the point of keeping URLs short. The site name should be descriptive enough for users to know what the site's purpose is. also recommend not using spaces or any other funny characters in URLs as they get http url encoded, such as spaces being turned into %20 etc. I also recommend you tell your users to enter a description when creating sites. Here's another good article on the topic http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/simple-naming-conventions-improve-end-user-experience-sharepoint-sites Sezai. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Web Admin web.ad...@syd.catholic.edu.au wrote: I'd prefer to do it client-side and override the incumbent method for populating the page name field. Limiting its length would probably be the easiest approach. my-first-news-article-i-ever-did-write-.aspx just doesn't do it for me. ;) Regards, Paul On 11 September 2013 12:40, Nigel Witherdin nigel_wither...@hotmail.com wrote: ItemAdding event receiver on the SitePages library maybe? -- Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 08:29:59 +1000 Subject: Re: Best Prectice for naming sites From: web.ad...@syd.catholic.edu.au To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com I wish there was an easy way to enforce the same rules for pages. :) Regards, Paul On 10 September 2013 18:07, Nigel Witherdin nigel_wither...@hotmail.com wrote: I think the site title can be whatever you like, but I generally keep the URL for the site to be short (gen 6 letters or less), and without troubling characters like spaces. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 10, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Zahra Zamanikia zahra.zamani...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Hi All, There are different ways for naming sites, I just need a hint which way is the best one ? Thanks, Zara ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo
Re: Best Prectice for naming sites
This is not just a SharePoint restriction. Extremely long URLs are usually a mistake. *URLs over 2,000 characters will not work in the most popular web browser.* Don't use them if you intend your site to work for the majority of Internet users. This goes for search engines as well. Regards, Paul On 12 September 2013 11:42, Nigel Witherdin nigel_wither...@hotmail.comwrote: Worth noting that there are URL size limitations in SP2010: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff919564(v=office.14).aspx -- Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 13:00:33 +0800 Subject: Re: Best Prectice for naming sites From: sharepointse...@gmail.com To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com I does do it for... Search Engines though. Having many words in the URL that are dash delimeted is good for SEO, improves search engine ranking. What's wrong with long descriptive names in a page URL? Are you trying to conserve bytes being sent across your network cables? If you were to do this though - I too prefer a Client-Side implementation of this compared to event receivers on pages libraries. Going back to the original question of naming sites. Call them whatever makes most sense to you. I agree with the point of keeping URLs short. The site name should be descriptive enough for users to know what the site's purpose is. also recommend not using spaces or any other funny characters in URLs as they get http url encoded, such as spaces being turned into %20 etc. I also recommend you tell your users to enter a description when creating sites. Here's another good article on the topic http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/simple-naming-conventions-improve-end-user-experience-sharepoint-sites Sezai. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Web Admin web.ad...@syd.catholic.edu.au wrote: I'd prefer to do it client-side and override the incumbent method for populating the page name field. Limiting its length would probably be the easiest approach. my-first-news-article-i-ever-did-write-.aspx just doesn't do it for me. ;) Regards, Paul On 11 September 2013 12:40, Nigel Witherdin nigel_wither...@hotmail.comwrote: ItemAdding event receiver on the SitePages library maybe? -- Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 08:29:59 +1000 Subject: Re: Best Prectice for naming sites From: web.ad...@syd.catholic.edu.au To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com I wish there was an easy way to enforce the same rules for pages. :) Regards, Paul On 10 September 2013 18:07, Nigel Witherdin nigel_wither...@hotmail.comwrote: I think the site title can be whatever you like, but I generally keep the URL for the site to be short (gen 6 letters or less), and without troubling characters like spaces. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 10, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Zahra Zamanikia zahra.zamani...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Hi All, There are different ways for naming sites, I just need a hint which way is the best one ? Thanks, Zara ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss
Re: Best Prectice for naming sites
whoah 2,000 characters is way to long. A descriptive page URL, containing words, delimited by dashes is a good thing. You shouldn't make it excessively long and stuff in extra words. I'm talking less than a hundred characters. If a page title is something like... How long should my page URL be. I think the page URL is good if it is * http://yourdomain/subsiteurl/pages/how-long-should-my-page-url-be.aspx*http://yourdomain/subsiteurl/pages/how-long-should-my-page-url-be.aspx * *which isn't thousands of characters. So I agree with your statement that extremely long URLs are usually a mistake I would say they're *always* a mistake, if you're implying that extremely is thousands of characters. Now that's for pages. I've seen the URL limits hit in SharePoint before, but this was in *document libraries*. Where you have many nested folders, with long folder names, and then users try uploading documents to them where the document file name is also long. In that scenario - yeah nested folders are going to bite you hard. Sezai. On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Web Admin web.ad...@syd.catholic.edu.auwrote: This is not just a SharePoint restriction. Extremely long URLs are usually a mistake. *URLs over 2,000 characters will not work in the most popular web browser.* Don't use them if you intend your site to work for the majority of Internet users. This goes for search engines as well. Regards, Paul On 12 September 2013 11:42, Nigel Witherdin nigel_wither...@hotmail.comwrote: Worth noting that there are URL size limitations in SP2010: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff919564(v=office.14).aspx -- Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 13:00:33 +0800 Subject: Re: Best Prectice for naming sites From: sharepointse...@gmail.com To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com I does do it for... Search Engines though. Having many words in the URL that are dash delimeted is good for SEO, improves search engine ranking. What's wrong with long descriptive names in a page URL? Are you trying to conserve bytes being sent across your network cables? If you were to do this though - I too prefer a Client-Side implementation of this compared to event receivers on pages libraries. Going back to the original question of naming sites. Call them whatever makes most sense to you. I agree with the point of keeping URLs short. The site name should be descriptive enough for users to know what the site's purpose is. also recommend not using spaces or any other funny characters in URLs as they get http url encoded, such as spaces being turned into %20 etc. I also recommend you tell your users to enter a description when creating sites. Here's another good article on the topic http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/simple-naming-conventions-improve-end-user-experience-sharepoint-sites Sezai. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Web Admin web.ad...@syd.catholic.edu.au wrote: I'd prefer to do it client-side and override the incumbent method for populating the page name field. Limiting its length would probably be the easiest approach. my-first-news-article-i-ever-did-write-.aspx just doesn't do it for me. ;) Regards, Paul On 11 September 2013 12:40, Nigel Witherdin nigel_wither...@hotmail.comwrote: ItemAdding event receiver on the SitePages library maybe? -- Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 08:29:59 +1000 Subject: Re: Best Prectice for naming sites From: web.ad...@syd.catholic.edu.au To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com I wish there was an easy way to enforce the same rules for pages. :) Regards, Paul On 10 September 2013 18:07, Nigel Witherdin nigel_wither...@hotmail.comwrote: I think the site title can be whatever you like, but I generally keep the URL for the site to be short (gen 6 letters or less), and without troubling characters like spaces. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 10, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Zahra Zamanikia zahra.zamani...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Hi All, There are different ways for naming sites, I just need a hint which way is the best one ? Thanks, Zara ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss
Re: Best Prectice for naming sites
I think the site title can be whatever you like, but I generally keep the URL for the site to be short (gen 6 letters or less), and without troubling characters like spaces. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 10, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Zahra Zamanikia zahra.zamani...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Hi All, There are different ways for naming sites, I just need a hint which way is the best one ? Thanks, Zara ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss
Re: Best Prectice for naming sites
I wish there was an easy way to enforce the same rules for pages. :) Regards, Paul On 10 September 2013 18:07, Nigel Witherdin nigel_wither...@hotmail.comwrote: I think the site title can be whatever you like, but I generally keep the URL for the site to be short (gen 6 letters or less), and without troubling characters like spaces. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 10, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Zahra Zamanikia zahra.zamani...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Hi All, There are different ways for naming sites, I just need a hint which way is the best one ? Thanks, Zara ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss
RE: Best Prectice for naming sites
ItemAdding event receiver on the SitePages library maybe? Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 08:29:59 +1000 Subject: Re: Best Prectice for naming sites From: web.ad...@syd.catholic.edu.au To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com I wish there was an easy way to enforce the same rules for pages. :) Regards, Paul On 10 September 2013 18:07, Nigel Witherdin nigel_wither...@hotmail.com wrote: I think the site title can be whatever you like, but I generally keep the URL for the site to be short (gen 6 letters or less), and without troubling characters like spaces. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 10, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Zahra Zamanikia zahra.zamani...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Hi All, There are different ways for naming sites, I just need a hint which way is the best one ? Thanks, Zara ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss
Re: Best Prectice for naming sites
How Can I use that ? From: Nigel Witherdin nigel_wither...@hotmail.com To: OzMoss ozmoss@ozmoss.com Sent: Wednesday, 11 September 2013 12:40 PM Subject: RE: Best Prectice for naming sites ItemAdding event receiver on the SitePages library maybe? Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 08:29:59 +1000 Subject: Re: Best Prectice for naming sites From: web.ad...@syd.catholic.edu.au To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com I wish there was an easy way to enforce the same rules for pages. :) Regards, Paul On 10 September 2013 18:07, Nigel Witherdin nigel_wither...@hotmail.com wrote: I think the site title can be whatever you like, but I generally keep the URL for the site to be short (gen 6 letters or less), and without troubling characters like spaces. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 10, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Zahra Zamanikia zahra.zamani...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Hi All, There are different ways for naming sites, I just need a hint which way is the best one ? Thanks, Zara ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss
Re: Best Prectice for naming sites
I'd prefer to do it client-side and override the incumbent method for populating the page name field. Limiting its length would probably be the easiest approach. my-first-news-article-i-ever-did-write-.aspx just doesn't do it for me. ;) Regards, Paul On 11 September 2013 12:40, Nigel Witherdin nigel_wither...@hotmail.comwrote: ItemAdding event receiver on the SitePages library maybe? -- Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 08:29:59 +1000 Subject: Re: Best Prectice for naming sites From: web.ad...@syd.catholic.edu.au To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com I wish there was an easy way to enforce the same rules for pages. :) Regards, Paul On 10 September 2013 18:07, Nigel Witherdin nigel_wither...@hotmail.comwrote: I think the site title can be whatever you like, but I generally keep the URL for the site to be short (gen 6 letters or less), and without troubling characters like spaces. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 10, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Zahra Zamanikia zahra.zamani...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Hi All, There are different ways for naming sites, I just need a hint which way is the best one ? Thanks, Zara ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss
Re: Best Prectice for naming sites
I does do it for... Search Engines though. Having many words in the URL that are dash delimeted is good for SEO, improves search engine ranking. What's wrong with long descriptive names in a page URL? Are you trying to conserve bytes being sent across your network cables? If you were to do this though - I too prefer a Client-Side implementation of this compared to event receivers on pages libraries. Going back to the original question of naming sites. Call them whatever makes most sense to you. I agree with the point of keeping URLs short. The site name should be descriptive enough for users to know what the site's purpose is. also recommend not using spaces or any other funny characters in URLs as they get http url encoded, such as spaces being turned into %20 etc. I also recommend you tell your users to enter a description when creating sites. Here's another good article on the topic http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/simple-naming-conventions-improve-end-user-experience-sharepoint-sites Sezai. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Web Admin web.ad...@syd.catholic.edu.auwrote: I'd prefer to do it client-side and override the incumbent method for populating the page name field. Limiting its length would probably be the easiest approach. my-first-news-article-i-ever-did-write-.aspx just doesn't do it for me. ;) Regards, Paul On 11 September 2013 12:40, Nigel Witherdin nigel_wither...@hotmail.comwrote: ItemAdding event receiver on the SitePages library maybe? -- Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 08:29:59 +1000 Subject: Re: Best Prectice for naming sites From: web.ad...@syd.catholic.edu.au To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com I wish there was an easy way to enforce the same rules for pages. :) Regards, Paul On 10 September 2013 18:07, Nigel Witherdin nigel_wither...@hotmail.comwrote: I think the site title can be whatever you like, but I generally keep the URL for the site to be short (gen 6 letters or less), and without troubling characters like spaces. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 10, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Zahra Zamanikia zahra.zamani...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Hi All, There are different ways for naming sites, I just need a hint which way is the best one ? Thanks, Zara ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss