RE: Source Control for VS Projects
Team Foundation Server is nice, but very big and heavy if it's a small dev team. A great alternative which I've had some success with is SVN. From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Power, Karl Sent: Tuesday, 19 January 2010 10:48 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Source Control for VS Projects Hi folks, I was wondering what tools are being used by some of you guys for managing source code? We were looking at deploying SourceSafe but we have come across some pretty scathing reviews. Any information would be greatly appreciated, Rgds, KP Karl Power Glanbia Business Services Glanbia Plc Tel: +353 (0) 56 883 6016 Email: kpo...@glanbia.iemailto:kpo...@glanbia.ie __ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. Any views and opinions expressed are those of the individual author/sender and are not necessarily shared or endorsed by Glanbia plc or any associated or related company. This message has been scanned for all known viruses. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Glanbia plc is registered in Ireland as a public limited company. Registered Office: Glanbia House, Kilkenny. Company Number: 129933 == ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss
RE: Source Control for VS Projects
SVN with Tortoise and Ankh all the way - only had heartache and pain with boths VSS and TFS Cheers, Nige From: dan...@danielbrown.id.au To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 23:03:10 +1030 Subject: RE: Source Control for VS Projects Team Foundation Server is nice, but very big and heavy if it’s a small dev team. A great alternative which I’ve had some success with is SVN. From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Power, Karl Sent: Tuesday, 19 January 2010 10:48 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Source Control for VS Projects Hi folks, I was wondering what tools are being used by some of you guys for managing source code? We were looking at deploying SourceSafe but we have come across some pretty scathing reviews. Any information would be greatly appreciated, Rgds, KP Karl Power Glanbia Business Services Glanbia Plc Tel: +353 (0) 56 883 6016 Email: kpo...@glanbia.ie __ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. Any views and opinions expressed are those of the individual author/sender and are not necessarily shared or endorsed by Glanbia plc or any associated or related company. This message has been scanned for all known viruses. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Glanbia plc is registered in Ireland as a public limited company. Registered Office: Glanbia House, Kilkenny. Company Number: 129933 == _ Tell us your greatest, weirdest and funniest Hotmail stories http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss
Re: Source Control for VS Projects
They've simplified a fair bit of stuff with TFS 2010 which should make it easier to run and manage. Bear in mind that, if you go down another path for tooling that you don't get the integration that you get with TFS/VSTS. For example, here's a blog post that I wrote yesterday: http://2010wave.blogspot.com/2010/01/how-to-build-sharepoint-wsp-packages-as.html Using TFS you can pretty much do your whole CI/Lifecycle stuff with the one product (and more). Using the loosely coupled approach can often be more messy to maintain as you end up with a soup of products for things like source control, CI, build system, etc. and you have to manage and update them all separately. Kind Regards, Darren Neimke http://twitter.com/digory darren.nei...@live.com mob: 0439 855 046 From: Nigel Witherdin Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 5:28 AM To: OzMoss Subject: RE: Source Control for VS Projects SVN with Tortoise and Ankh all the way - only had heartache and pain with boths VSS and TFS Cheers, Nige From: dan...@danielbrown.id.au To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 23:03:10 +1030 Subject: RE: Source Control for VS Projects Team Foundation Server is nice, but very big and heavy if it’s a small dev team. A great alternative which I’ve had some success with is SVN. From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Power, Karl Sent: Tuesday, 19 January 2010 10:48 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Source Control for VS Projects Hi folks, I was wondering what tools are being used by some of you guys for managing source code? We were looking at deploying SourceSafe but we have come across some pretty scathing reviews. Any information would be greatly appreciated, Rgds, KP Karl Power Glanbia Business Services Glanbia Plc Tel: +353 (0) 56 883 6016 Email: kpo...@glanbia.ie __ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. Any views and opinions expressed are those of the individual author/sender and are not necessarily shared or endorsed by Glanbia plc or any associated or related company. This message has been scanned for all known viruses. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Glanbia plc is registered in Ireland as a public limited company. Registered Office: Glanbia House, Kilkenny. Company Number: 129933 == We want to hear all your funny, exciting and crazy Hotmail stories. Tell us now ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss
RE: Source Control for VS Projects
+1 to Subversion w/ Tortoise and Ankh. Tortoise adds awesome desktop integration and control, while Ankh provides a subset of this functionality from within VS. I've run into a few branching issues and conflicts when using both but nothing insurmountable. Fig.1 - Desktop integration with TortoiseSVN. [cid:image002.jpg@01CA99AC.E393F670] Regards, Paul Online Developer, ICT CEO Sydney From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Nigel Witherdin Sent: Wednesday, 20 January 2010 5:58 AM To: OzMoss Subject: RE: Source Control for VS Projects SVN with Tortoise and Ankh all the way - only had heartache and pain with boths VSS and TFS Cheers, Nige From: dan...@danielbrown.id.au To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 23:03:10 +1030 Subject: RE: Source Control for VS Projects Team Foundation Server is nice, but very big and heavy if it's a small dev team. A great alternative which I've had some success with is SVN. From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Power, Karl Sent: Tuesday, 19 January 2010 10:48 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Source Control for VS Projects Hi folks, I was wondering what tools are being used by some of you guys for managing source code? We were looking at deploying SourceSafe but we have come across some pretty scathing reviews. Any information would be greatly appreciated, Rgds, KP Karl Power Glanbia Business Services Glanbia Plc Tel: +353 (0) 56 883 6016 Email: kpo...@glanbia.iemailto:kpo...@glanbia.ie __ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. Any views and opinions expressed are those of the individual author/sender and are not necessarily shared or endorsed by Glanbia plc or any associated or related company. This message has been scanned for all known viruses. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Glanbia plc is registered in Ireland as a public limited company. Registered Office: Glanbia House, Kilkenny. Company Number: 129933 == We want to hear all your funny, exciting and crazy Hotmail stories. Tell us nowhttp://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/ inline: image002.jpg___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss
RE: Source Control for VS Projects
+1 TFS. As a relatively inexperienced developer, TFS (2008) has been pretty easy to jump into to manage SP projects. Work item tracking and linking to source changes is brilliant TFS or other. But my only experience is with TFS and I'm always happy to work with it. C From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Daniel W. Brown Sent: Tuesday, 19 January 2010 10:33 PM To: ozMOSS Subject: RE: Source Control for VS Projects Team Foundation Server is nice, but very big and heavy if it's a small dev team. A great alternative which I've had some success with is SVN. From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Power, Karl Sent: Tuesday, 19 January 2010 10:48 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Source Control for VS Projects Hi folks, I was wondering what tools are being used by some of you guys for managing source code? We were looking at deploying SourceSafe but we have come across some pretty scathing reviews. Any information would be greatly appreciated, Rgds, KP Karl Power Glanbia Business Services Glanbia Plc Tel: +353 (0) 56 883 6016 Email: kpo...@glanbia.ie mailto:kpo...@glanbia.ie __ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. Any views and opinions expressed are those of the individual author/sender and are not necessarily shared or endorsed by Glanbia plc or any associated or related company. This message has been scanned for all known viruses. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Glanbia plc is registered in Ireland as a public limited company. Registered Office: Glanbia House, Kilkenny. Company Number: 129933 == ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss
RE: Source Control for VS Projects
+1 to TFS. Also remember that TFS 2010 (RTM in April) will have a Basic Edition which is a lot more affordable than the full TFS 2010 suite. I am presenting on TFS + SharePoint Dev at the ALM conference in Sydney in April, they'll be plenty of content on the SharePointDevWiki.com around this soon. I have used SourceSafe, SVN and TFS and I must say that TFS is the easiest in terms of direct integration with Visual Studio and obviously gives you build server etc. You could do this with TeamCity instead though. You may also get licensing for TFS via your Microsoft agreements in some cases. BTW - great article Darren! From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Chris Milne Sent: Wednesday, 20 January 2010 6:11 AM To: ozMOSS Subject: RE: Source Control for VS Projects +1 TFS. As a relatively inexperienced developer, TFS (2008) has been pretty easy to jump into to manage SP projects. Work item tracking and linking to source changes is brilliant TFS or other. But my only experience is with TFS and I'm always happy to work with it. C From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Daniel W. Brown Sent: Tuesday, 19 January 2010 10:33 PM To: ozMOSS Subject: RE: Source Control for VS Projects Team Foundation Server is nice, but very big and heavy if it's a small dev team. A great alternative which I've had some success with is SVN. From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Power, Karl Sent: Tuesday, 19 January 2010 10:48 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Source Control for VS Projects Hi folks, I was wondering what tools are being used by some of you guys for managing source code? We were looking at deploying SourceSafe but we have come across some pretty scathing reviews. Any information would be greatly appreciated, Rgds, KP Karl Power Glanbia Business Services Glanbia Plc Tel: +353 (0) 56 883 6016 Email: kpo...@glanbia.iemailto:kpo...@glanbia.ie __ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. Any views and opinions expressed are those of the individual author/sender and are not necessarily shared or endorsed by Glanbia plc or any associated or related company. This message has been scanned for all known viruses. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Glanbia plc is registered in Ireland as a public limited company. Registered Office: Glanbia House, Kilkenny. Company Number: 129933 == ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss
RE: Source Control for VS Projects
Cool Jeremy. Is the presentation focused toward SP 2007/2010 or neither in particular? C From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Thake Sent: Wednesday, 20 January 2010 11:28 AM To: ozMOSS Subject: RE: Source Control for VS Projects +1 to TFS. Also remember that TFS 2010 (RTM in April) will have a Basic Edition which is a lot more affordable than the full TFS 2010 suite. I am presenting on TFS + SharePoint Dev at the ALM conference in Sydney in April, they'll be plenty of content on the SharePointDevWiki.com around this soon. I have used SourceSafe, SVN and TFS and I must say that TFS is the easiest in terms of direct integration with Visual Studio and obviously gives you build server etc. You could do this with TeamCity instead though. You may also get licensing for TFS via your Microsoft agreements in some cases. BTW - great article Darren! From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Chris Milne Sent: Wednesday, 20 January 2010 6:11 AM To: ozMOSS Subject: RE: Source Control for VS Projects +1 TFS. As a relatively inexperienced developer, TFS (2008) has been pretty easy to jump into to manage SP projects. Work item tracking and linking to source changes is brilliant TFS or other. But my only experience is with TFS and I'm always happy to work with it. C From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Daniel W. Brown Sent: Tuesday, 19 January 2010 10:33 PM To: ozMOSS Subject: RE: Source Control for VS Projects Team Foundation Server is nice, but very big and heavy if it's a small dev team. A great alternative which I've had some success with is SVN. From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Power, Karl Sent: Tuesday, 19 January 2010 10:48 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Source Control for VS Projects Hi folks, I was wondering what tools are being used by some of you guys for managing source code? We were looking at deploying SourceSafe but we have come across some pretty scathing reviews. Any information would be greatly appreciated, Rgds, KP Karl Power Glanbia Business Services Glanbia Plc Tel: +353 (0) 56 883 6016 Email: kpo...@glanbia.ie mailto:kpo...@glanbia.ie __ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. Any views and opinions expressed are those of the individual author/sender and are not necessarily shared or endorsed by Glanbia plc or any associated or related company. This message has been scanned for all known viruses. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Glanbia plc is registered in Ireland as a public limited company. Registered Office: Glanbia House, Kilkenny. Company Number: 129933 == ___ ozmoss mailing list ozmoss@ozmoss.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozmoss
