RE: Interesting article re: WPF/Silverlight/HTML5 on riagenic
Sorry to tell you but I'm so sick of Scott's overly-opinionated attitude. He has(had) access to a fair bit of internal knowledge inside Microsoft that he saw through his own eyes and now he got out and he's spitting everywhere around him having no clue about the (moral) damage he does to people he used to work with ... and maybe even his friends (though I doubt he had too many). We all know there is no company that is perfect and everywhere there are communication issues and we are all people with different attitudes and different opinions and yes, sometimes we don't agree but that's why we are smart and can talk and come to agree or disagree and move on. I so much dislike his attitude and I've been there I know it all, it's doom day and all Microsoft should do the way I think cose they are all dead. I bet you he left Microsoft because someone refused repeatedly his request to move up the food/management chain in a position where he can take bigger decisions that he thinks can do .. which got him extremely frustrated :) I would not like to work with next to him in any project as I would feel the day he leaves he will turn around and spit on everyone's head. The article (just like his daily tweets that people hand on to like God's words) is yet another massive frustration throw up and I know everything attitude. Some comments are very good at exposing this. My 2 cents, (very personal opinion) Corneliu. PS I do take notes of his opinions when he stops being morally and verbally violent to the people around him and his ex-colleagues and a complete frustration declaration. This is simply called being polite to your peers. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of danlaz...@arcamis.com [danlaz...@arcamis.com] Sent: Tuesday, 14 September 2010 6:33 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Interesting article re: WPF/Silverlight/HTML5 on riagenic Via CodeProject 'Daily News' (14/09/2010) - http://www.riagenic.com/archives/363 Dr. Dan Lazner, PhD | Software Architect/Engineer/Developer ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
RE: Out of memory exceptions in VS2010 with Silverlight 4
Lol, I don't get it why people get stuck with XP in 32b edition and all it's limitations. It's an OS designed 14 years ago!!! 14!! And released 12 years ago. Do any of your guys drive a car 14 years old? Next thing you should do to yourself: - remove source control and do manual merges: cost $2000 - replace your locks from the doors with a dodgy one that takes 15 minutes to open: cost $500 and so on :) Sorry, I have to be a bit sarcastic on this :) How about: $1600 = 9 W7 Pro Licences if you buy them in a 3 licence pack (http://www.myshopping.com.au/PR--335070_Windows_7_Professional) $2000 = 8Gb of memory for almost all your 7 developers (http://www.staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=8gb+ddr2spos=1) $1000 = 7200rpm HDDs for all your developers http://www.staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=7200rpm+500gb+hddspos=1 And you'll never see those problems again. 3 days of lost productivity and cost and your are done. You'll start being productive and remove all your frustrations. Corneliu. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of ton...@tpg.com.au [ton...@tpg.com.au] Sent: Friday, 23 July 2010 10:20 AM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Out of memory exceptions in VS2010 with Silverlight 4 Hi all, It's Friday, so I thought I would let you know about one issue in our team. Basically, we are running 32-bit Windows XP. The machines have anywhere between 2 and 4GB RAM. Everyone in the team gets System Out Of Memory Exceptions. When that happens, you have wasted the compile time, and then you have to shut down VS2010, start it up, then open up the solution. The solution has a significant number of projects in it. Apparently this problem only happens in 32-bit windows. So for the whole restart process, we have assigned 10 minutes to this procedure. Next we have logged the total crash time for our team of 7 developers (some days people were away, but it ultimately doesn't matter). The times lost are as follows: 14th 240 mins 15th 100 mins 18th 120 mins 19th 60 mins 20th 200 mins 21st 100 mins 22nd 140 mins we have assigned an arbitrary value against the times of $100/hour. So the loss of productivity is 16 hours @ $100/hour = $1600. Hopefully soon these figures will become a significant enough figure to justify an upgrade! Regards, Tony ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
RE: Out of memory exceptions in VS2010 with Silverlight 4
Tony, To help with Carl's recommandations you can try to use this VS plugin: Solution Load Manager: http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/66350dbe-ed01-4120-bea2-5564eff7b0b2 It allows you to select which projects to load when the solution starts and delay load the ones you don't need. It's good. I use it and I love it. Corneliu. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of carl.scarl...@bankwest.com.au [carl.scarl...@bankwest.com.au] Sent: Friday, 23 July 2010 11:16 AM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: RE: Out of memory exceptions in VS2010 with Silverlight 4 Hi Tony, This sounds like the same issue we are having on our major project (a WPF/CAB project). Our Client solution has 66 project files in the solution, and our middle tier has 77 project files. We are running on Windows XP 32bit SP3. And yes, Visual Studio (2008) starts falling apart visually before finally collapsing due to lack of RAM (swap space makes no difference). Because of this issue we discovered that XP has an upper limit of usable RAM because it’s 32 bit. After a 32bit Windows OS boots up, it has a maximum RAM of 4GB minus any RAM hardware on PCI slots use. For example, despite having 4GB or RAM installed, we average around 2.8Gb available after boot (this is what you see on My Computer | Properties | General tab). Throwing in more RAM won’t help. The best solution would be to move up to a 64bit OS which has a much higher RAM maximum, and can use all available RAM (I recommend Windows 7 64bit). Unfortunately for us, that’s out of the question because we’re hamstrung by the corporate Standard Operating Environment. I’ve been pushing hard for our SOE to be shifted (even if only for IT), but progress is too slow for us. We’ve had great success in running cut-down solutions that only contain the projects we need. Some of our team built a solution generator using the main solution file as a source, while others (like me) like to hand build our cut-down solutions. The smaller solutions cope much better memory wise and have reduced the number crashes. We also unload projects from our cut-down solutions to further reduce memory impact (however the savings aren’t really used until you restart VS). The disadvantage of this is it code synchronisation can be tricky, and puts more onus on the developer to coordinate changes themselves. i.e, if another developer makes changes in a project you have checked out and you pick up part of their change, your solution probably won’t build. We get around this by having batch files to compile the full solution, and by doing regular “Get Latest” on the full code branch. Our continuous integration build helps highlight any other code sync issues. Watch out for VS Add-ins and patches too. Some of our developer environments have had problems with certain Add-ins while others haven’t. Some developer environments also react differently for no apparent reason and require patches from MS. Another thing to note; watch your VS integrated source control provider. We recently switched from Vault to TFS and have realised since that Vault caused huge memory leaks in VS. We were stuck on a slightly older version of Vault than is available, but it seems TFS is much better at handling memory inside VS. e.g. our full solution in VS, once loaded and compiled, uses over 100Mb less memory on TFS than Vault. devenv.exe also opens and closes a hell of a lot quicker using TFS, and has never had an instance hanging around in the background since moving to TFS. I’m sure the most optimal solution would be Windows 7 64bit with 8Mb RAM and cut-down projects. Not sure if VS2010 has better memory usage yet. Good luck! Carl. Carl Scarlett Senior .NET/WPF Developer, UX Designer - Genesis Team IT Applications Delivery | Bankwest A: Level 5, 199 Hay Street | Perth | Western Australia | 6004 P: (08) 9449 8703 M: 0408 913 870 E: carl.scarl...@bankwest.com.au From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of ton...@tpg.com.au Sent: Friday, 23 July 2010 8:21 AM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Out of memory exceptions in VS2010 with Silverlight 4 Hi all, It's Friday, so I thought I would let you know about one issue in our team. Basically, we are running 32-bit Windows XP. The machines have anywhere between 2 and 4GB RAM. Everyone in the team gets System Out Of Memory Exceptions. When that happens, you have wasted the compile time, and then you have to shut down VS2010, start it up, then open up the solution. The solution has a significant number of projects in it. Apparently this problem only happens in 32-bit windows. So for the whole restart process, we have assigned 10 minutes to this procedure. Next we have logged the total crash time for our team of 7 developers (some
Re: FYI: How to hack Expression Blend.
I'm trying to hook onto all the toplevel windows in vs2010 to make them stick to each other as you move/resize them aroud. I could not yet figure how to monitor when new wpf windows are opened. Any clues? On 02/04/2010, at 12:59 AM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@readify.net wrote: In case any of you are curious, here's some basic how to on hacking Expression Blend's UI, tonight I wrote a quick blog post documenting it (ie you can really goof around with the UI inside the tool) How to hack Expression Blend - http://bit.ly/9e4GQd Would love to know if any of you are tinkering around in this space as well? any insights/tips? ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
