Re: A typical few hours
Greg, So the plain class implements INotifyPropertyChanged and explicitly raises property changes on those bound values? What are the properties you're binding to? No binding errors at all in the output? On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: So I have a plain class object as the DataContext for a UserControl with a variety of controls on it. All of the two-way binding works perfectly except for a group of 3 radio buttons which seem to change their checked states in an incomprehensible random way. For over 3 hours I stick debug displays into every crack I can find, I swap code in and out, I try it on different controls, I fiddle with the bool-enum converter, but absolutely nothing makes any difference. Similar radio buttons on another similar control work perfectly, only this one is stuffed. ** ** I eventually deleted all binding code for the radio buttons and used an old WinForms style get/set property and it works. ** ** I think this is a really typical case of what I’ve been complaining about for two years now, and it’s getting worse. As my working days pass, more and more roadblocks, workarounds, gotchas and bugs degrade my work satisfaction and income. Most of this suffering continues to come from Silverlight, WPF and WCF. ** ** NRN, I’m just venting my boiling spleen. ** ** Greg ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Silverlight - Sharepoint 2010 List Item, Uploading file limited to 3MB
Hey guys, I've got a custom silverlight web part, which will attach files to a List Item, but it'm running into issues with file sizes limited to 3 megs only. I've tried configuring the web.config's to up the max request limit, and I've also tried configuring the upload size limit in Central Admin of sharepoint. Anyone have any idea? Cheers --Winston ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Interesting article re: WPF/Silverlight/HTML5 on riagenic
I think everyone should try to keep their cool. Although I may not agree with Scott's *opinion*, it is his opinion in some sense, and everyone has a right to say whatever they want, whether it's right or wrong. I didn't read his entire post, but I think it's definitely a combination of being disgruntled and confused with Microsoft. So long as everyone still has faith in the technology and are not swayed with comments like his in the community, there's really no merit for a flame war, even if he started it. I definitely don't see WPF dieing anytime soon, a lot has been invested and still will be to it, the only dieing that I see is going to happen will more than likely be convergence with Silverlight, if it was to happen someway some how. HTML5 may be awesome, and fit the needs for what these two technologies can do, but it's like any web standard it's contemporary, and fits the trend. WPF/Silverlight will still inevitably innovate faster and keep up with trends than browser vendors would. --Winston On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Darren Neimke darren.nei...@live.comwrote: Great and gutsy email Corneliu... I agree with and fully support what you have said. Scott needs to walk away and take a good hard look. - Darren Neimke *From:* Corneliu Tusnea corneliu.tus...@readify.net *Sent:* Tuesday, September 14, 2010 9:06 PM *To:* ozSilverlight ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com *Subject:* RE: Interesting article re: WPF/Silverlight/HTML5 on riagenic Sorry to tell you but I'm so sick of Scott's overly-opinionated attitude. He has(had) access to a fair bit of internal knowledge inside Microsoft that he saw through his own eyes and now he got out and he's spitting everywhere around him having no clue about the (moral) damage he does to people he used to work with ... and maybe even his friends (though I doubt he had too many). We all know there is no company that is perfect and everywhere there are communication issues and we are all people with different attitudes and different opinions and yes, sometimes we don't agree but that's why we are smart and can talk and come to agree or disagree and move on. I so much dislike his attitude and I've been there I know it all, it's doom day and all Microsoft should do the way I think cose they are all dead. I bet you he left Microsoft because someone refused repeatedly his request to move up the food/management chain in a position where he can take bigger decisions that he thinks can do .. which got him extremelyfrustrated :) I would not like to work with next to him in any project as I would feel the day he leaves he will turn around and spit on everyone's head. The article (just like his daily tweets that people hand on to like God's words) is yet another massive frustration throw up and I know everything attitude. Some comments are very good at exposing this. My 2 cents, (very personal opinion) Corneliu. PS I do take notes of his opinions when he stops being morally and verbally violent to the people around him and his ex-colleagues and a complete frustration declaration. This is simply called being polite to your peers. -- *From:* ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of danlaz...@arcamis.com [danlaz...@arcamis.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, 14 September 2010 6:33 PM *To:* ozSilverlight *Subject:* Interesting article re: WPF/Silverlight/HTML5 on riagenic Via CodeProject 'Daily News' (14/09/2010) - http://www.riagenic.com/archives/363 Dr. Dan Lazner, PhD | Software Architect/Engineer/Developer -- ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Hijack: iPhone dev - was RE: Who is using Silverlight?
I don't think it's a wrong decision on Apple's part. Third party vendors will always lag behind Apple's own tool set, if you end up having the market saturated with .NET and Flash developers writing for the iPhone, then that would mean Apple will need to work closely with Adobe and Mono to release beta SDK's as well along with their own SDK's, so that all these Flash and .NET devs would need be able to ramp up and develop against all the new features in the next revision of the OS. But it's definitely cool that they loosened the rules up a bit. On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Sam Lai samuel@gmail.com wrote: Actually, they've changed their mind and the policy a little, to something along the lines of 'exceptions will be considered on a case-by-case basis'. The crux of the issue is to stop the OS being feature-limited and dependent on an external framework. The MonoTouch people seem fairly confident their framework (and also Unity) is ok - check out their website (http://monotouch.net/) and Miguel De Icaza's blog (http://tirania.org/blog/). They're definitely not scaling down operations. Their argument is that they provide a one-to-one binding to Apple's APIs where possible, instead of an abstraction framework on top, which is what Flash does, limiting the dev's ability to use features as the underlying APIs are updated until Flash is updated. Of course, they'll always have that cloud over them, but there are a fair few MonoTouch and Unity-based apps in the App Store already. Plus the aforementioned policy does not apply to enterprise deployments, only the App Store. On 27 July 2010 19:00, John OBrien j...@soulsolutions.com.au wrote: Paul, Apple essentially stopped anything but Web or ObjectiveC with their change to the TOU earlier this year. You can no longer use Adobe's products or .Net to create great iPhone apps. John. From: subscripti...@theglavs.com To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: RE: Hijack: iPhone dev - was RE: Who is using Silverlight? Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:32:15 +1000 Oh and given it’s a Silverlight list, feel free to contact me directly on glav AT aspalliance.com so we don’t pollute this list with non SL related stuff. - Glav From: Paul Glavich [mailto:subscripti...@theglavs.com] Sent: Tuesday, 27 July 2010 6:31 PM To: 'ozSilverlight' Subject: Hijack: iPhone dev - was RE: Who is using Silverlight? We have a need in our company to come up with a quick cost estimate on iPhone and iPad app development. As a .Net dev, what can this list recommend for iPhone dev and in particular what is a typical general ramp up time. Monotouch is an obvious choice but am worried about its ability to be accepted in the app marketplace. - Glav From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of carl.scarl...@bankwest.com.au Sent: Tuesday, 27 July 2010 1:33 PM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: RE: Who is using Silverlight? Hi Greg, I think once Windows Mobile 7 hits (and the inevitable quick succession of point releases) Silverlight will start to take off and (finally) begin the journey towards being a prominent target for business application. I’m sure we all feel the mobile application movement hasn’t been realised yet*; we’re still only in the foothills of that dream; but Silverlight is such a compelling platform because it extends existing .NET skillsets rather than requiring developers to climb a vertical learning curve. Where I work is already developing iPhone applications (mainly for customer gimmick, riding the gadget wave) though there has been talk about long term projects using Silverlight on Windows Mobile phones. I would argue that business should definitely consider using the tools available now to develop Silverlight apps for Windows Mobile. The tools appear very mature even at this early stage; hopefully a sign that Microsoft are taking special care to get this right. It all looks exciting to me, even from my WPF world. Carl. * iPhone users would probably argue against this, but there’s more to mobile than iPhones, iPads, and Apple Carl Scarlett Senior .NET/WPF Developer, UX Designer - Genesis Team IT Applications Delivery | Bankwest A: Level 5, 199 Hay Street | Perth | Western Australia | 6004 P: (08) 9449 8703 M: 0408 913 870 E: carl.scarl...@bankwest.com.au From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Greg Harris g...@harrisconsultinggroup.com Sent: Tuesday, 27 July 2010 10:22 AM To: ozSilverlight ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Re: Who is using Silverlight? Hi Perry, Thanks for that, I am more focused
Re: Hijack: iPhone dev - was RE: Who is using Silverlight?
Paul, regarding your question. I think it depends what ramp up time you're referring to, as in a whole team? Individuals? I spent about 3 weeks, on and off on days, reading about ti and writing sample non-complete apps, and I find that, the learning curve isn't too steep. The largest learning curve is the syntax, it's also interesting in some aspects too, but once you overcome some of the more interesting bits, it becomes pretty easy. Their UI pattern is pretty much just MVC, so I mean, if anyone has had exposure to the pattern per se, they could pick up on how each of the components interact in your UI. On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Paul Glavich subscripti...@theglavs.comwrote: We have a need in our company to come up with a quick cost estimate on iPhone and iPad app development. As a .Net dev, what can this list recommend for iPhone dev and in particular what is a typical general ramp up time. Monotouch is an obvious choice but am worried about its ability to be accepted in the app marketplace. - Glav *From:* ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of * carl.scarl...@bankwest.com.au *Sent:* Tuesday, 27 July 2010 1:33 PM *To:* ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com *Subject:* RE: Who is using Silverlight? Hi Greg, I think once Windows Mobile 7 hits (and the inevitable quick succession of point releases) Silverlight will start to take off and (finally) begin the journey towards being a prominent target for business application. I’m sure we all feel the mobile application movement hasn’t been realised yet*; we’re still only in the foothills of that dream; but Silverlight is such a compelling platform because it extends existing .NET skillsets rather than requiring developers to climb a vertical learning curve. Where I work is already developing iPhone applications (mainly for customer gimmick, riding the gadget wave) though there has been talk about long term projects using Silverlight on Windows Mobile phones. I would argue that business should definitely consider using the tools available now to develop Silverlight apps for Windows Mobile. The tools appear very mature even at this early stage; hopefully a sign that Microsoft are taking special care to get this right. It all looks exciting to me, even from my WPF world. Carl. * iPhone users would probably argue against this, but there’s more to mobile than iPhones, iPads, and Apple Carl Scarlett Senior .NET/WPF Developer, UX Designer - Genesis Team *IT Applications Delivery |** **Bankwest* A: Level 5, 199 Hay Street | Perth | Western Australia | 6004 P: (08) 9449 8703 M: 0408 913 870 E: carl.scarl...@bankwest.com.au *From:* ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *Greg Harris g...@harrisconsultinggroup.com *Sent:* Tuesday, 27 July 2010 10:22 AM *To:* ozSilverlight ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com *Subject:* Re: Who is using Silverlight? Hi Perry, Thanks for that, I am more focused here on examples of true business applications. Not that video presentation can not be a true business application. Yes there are some in the showcase. But I am thinking more about things like company X developed a Silverlight add in to their line of business application allowing remote data entry or whatever. That is applications that are NOT using all the Silverlight UI wizardry! I feel that there is a real perception problem out there, you have to use all the Silverlight UI wizardry, even for simple line of business applications. Also, if possible, looking for more local stuff. Thanks Greg On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Perry Stathopoulos psta...@gmail.com wrote: Well you have NetFlix on demand in the US that uses Silverlight exclusively for their online streaming. The Beijing and Vancouver Olympics were using Silverlight exclusively for NBC and CTV networks in US and Canada respectively. You then have the showcase here to take a look at: http://www.silverlight.net/showcase/ *From:* Greg Harris g...@harrisconsultinggroup.com *Sent:* Monday, July 26, 2010 9:31 PM *To:* ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com *Subject:* Who is using Silverlight? Hi Everybody, I am putting together a presentation on Silverlight for managers, basically a “why you should not be afraid of using this technology”. There is one area that I am missing information on, that is who is using Silverlight. Question for the group: • Who is using Silverlight in Australia? / Overseas? • What for? • Is there public information available about the project? My interest is more focused on real business applications rather than just cute show off the user interface technology. Thanks Greg Harris -- ___ ozsilverlight mailing list
Re: Sketchflow for ASP.Net
Yes, it's only for WPF or Silverlight. It's really just a set of styles that get applied on it, that's pretty much it. On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Mark markspambus...@gmail.com wrote: We have a Silverlight application and the boss likes using SketchFlow to mock up stuff. We are now looking at writing an ASP.Net app and he wants to know if he can use SketchFlow to create the mock pages. I’ve not looked into it, but AFAIK it’s XAML only so whilst he can create pages for demo, we can’t reuse for our web pages. Is that correct? Is there another tool? I’d hope to use ASP.net MVC framework if that makes a difference. Cheers Mark ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Silverlight 4
So wait, the tool's aren't final, but the runtime is? On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nick Randolph n...@builttoroam.comwrote: Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for Silverlight 4 itself! Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development | +61 412 413 425 The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam. -Original Message- From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Vinay Tripathi Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 10:03 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Silverlight 4 Just checked, Silverlight 4 RC2 is now available for download. Vinay -Original Message- From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:03 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML Hey Ross, Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately the app is actually a CMS with a big framework - so chaning it isn't an option. Cheers, Jordan. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of ross [ r...@perenni.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:00 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Re: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML If the SL app is inside an updatepanel I don't think you will ever win. You could try pagemethods instead of updatepanels perhaps, assuming the legacy permits. I just tried it out for fun. I have two divs, one with a SL app and one with a html button. On clicking the button I hid the SL div, called the page method, and on the page method callback showed the SL div and updated a label in the html div with the time from the server. The SL app definitely didn't reload, as I had a timestamp showing in the xaml side of things that didn't change. On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Jordan Knight jordan.kni...@readify.net wrote: Having it outside was an option i've considered... the problem is that the UI is quite complex with fold out bits etc... so having it float would probably make it look a bit funny. JAK From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien [j...@soulsolutions.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 12:00 PM To: 'ozSilverlight' Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML We talking updatepanels Jordan? You need to make sure you're SL controls are not within the updatepanel or they are redrawn. The trick we used for the Bing Maps ASP.NET control was to have the update panel just contain some divs used for communication while the large map control sat just outside. This was all encapsulated within the control, the developer didn't add their own updatepanel. John. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 11:36 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML Hey guys, I have a situation where an existing ASP.NET AJAX based app has a series of SL controls in them. Basically they don't want the SL elements to reload when the ajax controls refresh. I've had a muck around with moving the element in JS, and it can be moved no problem - but it re-initialises the control each time... pretty sure its the browser doing it. Does anyone have any ideas on how I might move an SL control without it re-initialising? Cheers! Jordan. ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight National Australia Bank Ltd - ABN 12 004 044 937 This email may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately notify us at postmas...@nab.com.auor by replying to the sender, and then destroy all copies of this email. Except where this email indicates otherwise, views expressed in this email are those of the sender and not of National Australia Bank Ltd. Advice in
Re: Silverlight 4
Pooo :( I just wish they would just release it all at once, bit sick of all these beta and RC bits on my machine, I want to just install all the RTM bits at once. On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jordan Knight jak...@gmail.com wrote: Yuppers On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Winston Pang winstonp...@gmail.comwrote: So wait, the tool's aren't final, but the runtime is? On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nick Randolph n...@builttoroam.comwrote: Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for Silverlight 4 itself! Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development | +61 412 413 425 The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam. -Original Message- From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Vinay Tripathi Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 10:03 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Silverlight 4 Just checked, Silverlight 4 RC2 is now available for download. Vinay -Original Message- From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:03 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML Hey Ross, Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately the app is actually a CMS with a big framework - so chaning it isn't an option. Cheers, Jordan. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of ross [ r...@perenni.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:00 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Re: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML If the SL app is inside an updatepanel I don't think you will ever win. You could try pagemethods instead of updatepanels perhaps, assuming the legacy permits. I just tried it out for fun. I have two divs, one with a SL app and one with a html button. On clicking the button I hid the SL div, called the page method, and on the page method callback showed the SL div and updated a label in the html div with the time from the server. The SL app definitely didn't reload, as I had a timestamp showing in the xaml side of things that didn't change. On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Jordan Knight jordan.kni...@readify.net wrote: Having it outside was an option i've considered... the problem is that the UI is quite complex with fold out bits etc... so having it float would probably make it look a bit funny. JAK From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien [j...@soulsolutions.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 12:00 PM To: 'ozSilverlight' Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML We talking updatepanels Jordan? You need to make sure you're SL controls are not within the updatepanel or they are redrawn. The trick we used for the Bing Maps ASP.NET control was to have the update panel just contain some divs used for communication while the large map control sat just outside. This was all encapsulated within the control, the developer didn't add their own updatepanel. John. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 11:36 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML Hey guys, I have a situation where an existing ASP.NET AJAX based app has a series of SL controls in them. Basically they don't want the SL elements to reload when the ajax controls refresh. I've had a muck around with moving the element in JS, and it can be moved no problem - but it re-initialises the control each time... pretty sure its the browser doing it. Does anyone have any ideas on how I might move an SL control without it re-initialising? Cheers! Jordan. ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight National Australia Bank Ltd - ABN 12 004 044 937 This email may contain confidential
Re: Merry Xmas from Readify.
Hehe, I like the dancing reindeer's, how you do that? Never used Maya. On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@readify.netwrote: I know.. I am ashamed.. I will go now and sit in my readify corner and think about what I've done. You guys don't' get it.. I made REINDEERS DANCE PEOPLE.. DANCE... (Go Cinema 4D / Maya) *From:* ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *Jordan Knight *Sent:* Wednesday, December 02, 2009 4:34 PM *To:* ozSilverlight *Subject:* RE: Merry Xmas from Readify. That's just substandard dude. Geez. *From:* ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *Scott Barnes *Sent:* Thursday, 3 December 2009 11:29 AM *To:* ozSilverlight *Subject:* RE: Merry Xmas from Readify. That was me being lazy and not doing the math of 139px / % :) and instead cheated with 100pixels wide progress bar :) *From:* ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *Winston Pang *Sent:* Wednesday, December 02, 2009 4:24 PM *To:* ozSilverlight *Subject:* Re: Merry Xmas from Readify. Looking good. Great work! One little thing I noticed though, the progress bar at start doesn't seem to correlate exactly to the percentile value, it seems a bit off... like when it reach the 90's mark, there was a large chunk left and it just jumped. Anyways, good stuff. On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@readify.net wrote: http://readify.net/merry-christmas/ Small little Silverlight piece that we've done :) ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Re: Our new silverlight site
I find it sad in respect that the fun and good work of Silverlight gets called flash :p which is inferior!! haha On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Shane Morris shan...@microsoft.com wrote: I don’t find that sad. Average users should not have to think about whether something is Flash or Silverlight. We think the technology is cool, users should just think the site is cool. Hopefully users today don’t say ‘nice PHP web site’? J Shane *Shane Morris* | User Experience Evangelist | Microsoft Australia | shan...@microsoft.com | blogs.msdn.com/shanemo *From:* ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *Winston Pang *Sent:* Wednesday, 2 December 2009 7:51 AM *To:* ozSilverlight *Subject:* Re: Re: Our new silverlight site One thing I find sad about all this stuff is, the average user is going to say Nice Flash website. :( On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com wrote: I just noticed that you integrated 3 videos with the deep zoom. It looks cool. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com wrote: Wow that's nice :) On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 7:30 PM, rjemp...@gmail.com wrote: The company history page is another interesting use of deep zoom : http://www.michaelhill.com.au/#CompanyHistory Click the pause button to skip the video On 01/12/2009 10:45am, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com wrote: Thanks for sharing. What do you mean by Application lifetime objects / client side services? It's nice the way you use deepzoom. Altough I was thinking I could zoom in out of the products and then I noticed that it was mainly to preload. That's nice. It would be good to know a bit more on some topics, for example security, how you used deep zoom, SEO and analytics. I agree with most of the comments around navigation, slot transitions and movies. It's some valuable feedback. Miguel. On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Tatham Oddie tat...@oddie.com.au wrote: Sounds like some really cool technical work you’ve done! From an interaction perspective, Nick’s response correlates with Twitter as well: Thanks, Tatham Oddie au mob: +61 414 275 989, us cell: +1 213 422 7068, skype: tathamoddie, landline: +61 2 8011 3982, fax: +61 2 9475 5172 my business: tixi.com.au – Ticketing without the dramas From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph Sent: Tuesday, 1 December 2009 10:55 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Our new silverlight site Ross Since as you said this was a bit of a “cheap marketing email” I’m going to retaliate by providing what I hope will be constructive criticism: - I hate menus that disappear! The way the menus disappear completely makes the site hard to use. I flipped windows whilst the site was loading (sorry short attention span) and when I came back the menus had already gone – took me a while to find them. - The site’s infuriatingly slow – all the ui transitions are too slow for my liking. - There are some positioning issues whereby the close icon is half cut off by the edge of the screen - When you go into looking at one of the products ( http://www.michaelhill.com/#ProductList?ProductMenuItemId=8ProductMenuSubItemId=ParentScreenId=3) it’s then not clear where to go from there. General feedback – visually it’s quite pleasing. Navigation leaves quite a bit to be desired. Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development | +61 412 413 425 The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Ross McKinnon Sent: Tuesday, 1 December 2009 9:51 AM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Our new silverlight site Hi all, as you guys aren’t exactly our target market, this can’t be considered a cheap marketing email to promote our new website, but more a demonstration of how silverlight can be utilized to create a global retail branding site. On Monday, we released our new website which is written completely in silverlight. If you get a chance to look at the site (www.michaelhill.com) it has a number of interesting
Re: Our new silverlight site
Haha yeah, that's true. I asked a family member once, Flash is installed right?, I have Windows Media Player Installed, ..., Oh I also have iTunes installed. I love users, maybe it goes to show we're still a lot far off from making computers easily understandable for average users. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Jordan Knight jordan.kni...@readify.netwrote: I find mum and dad users don't even know what tech they are using. Do you have flash installed?. What?. Can you play youtube videos? *From:* ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *Shane Morris *Sent:* Wednesday, 2 December 2009 8:48 AM *To:* ozSilverlight *Subject:* RE: Our new silverlight site I don’t find that sad. Average users should not have to think about whether something is Flash or Silverlight. We think the technology is cool, users should just think the site is cool. Hopefully users today don’t say ‘nice PHP web site’? J Shane *Shane Morris* | User Experience Evangelist | Microsoft Australia | shan...@microsoft.com | blogs.msdn.com/shanemo *From:* ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *Winston Pang *Sent:* Wednesday, 2 December 2009 7:51 AM *To:* ozSilverlight *Subject:* Re: Re: Our new silverlight site One thing I find sad about all this stuff is, the average user is going to say Nice Flash website. :( On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com wrote: I just noticed that you integrated 3 videos with the deep zoom. It looks cool. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com wrote: Wow that's nice :) On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 7:30 PM, rjemp...@gmail.com wrote: The company history page is another interesting use of deep zoom : http://www.michaelhill.com.au/#CompanyHistory Click the pause button to skip the video On 01/12/2009 10:45am, Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com wrote: Thanks for sharing. What do you mean by Application lifetime objects / client side services? It's nice the way you use deepzoom. Altough I was thinking I could zoom in out of the products and then I noticed that it was mainly to preload. That's nice. It would be good to know a bit more on some topics, for example security, how you used deep zoom, SEO and analytics. I agree with most of the comments around navigation, slot transitions and movies. It's some valuable feedback. Miguel. On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Tatham Oddie tat...@oddie.com.au wrote: Sounds like some really cool technical work you’ve done! From an interaction perspective, Nick’s response correlates with Twitter as well: Thanks, Tatham Oddie au mob: +61 414 275 989, us cell: +1 213 422 7068, skype: tathamoddie, landline: +61 2 8011 3982, fax: +61 2 9475 5172 my business: tixi.com.au – Ticketing without the dramas From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph Sent: Tuesday, 1 December 2009 10:55 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Our new silverlight site Ross Since as you said this was a bit of a “cheap marketing email” I’m going to retaliate by providing what I hope will be constructive criticism: - I hate menus that disappear! The way the menus disappear completely makes the site hard to use. I flipped windows whilst the site was loading (sorry short attention span) and when I came back the menus had already gone – took me a while to find them. - The site’s infuriatingly slow – all the ui transitions are too slow for my liking. - There are some positioning issues whereby the close icon is half cut off by the edge of the screen - When you go into looking at one of the products ( http://www.michaelhill.com/#ProductList?ProductMenuItemId=8ProductMenuSubItemId=ParentScreenId=3) it’s then not clear where to go from there. General feedback – visually it’s quite pleasing. Navigation leaves quite a bit to be desired. Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development | +61 412 413 425 The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Ross McKinnon Sent
Re: Our new silverlight site
That's a very good point David. Not to mention that some of these secretary's have a passed down machine that's like 7 yrs old, I know this because my uncle pass's his old computers at his surgery to the secretary, and you can barely load SMH... On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:42 AM, David Connors da...@codify.com wrote: 2009/12/1 Ross McKinnon ross.mckin...@michaelhill.com.au Hi all, as you guys aren’t exactly our target market, this can’t be considered a cheap marketing email to promote our new website, but more a demonstration of how silverlight can be utilized to create a global retail branding site. [ ... ] http://www.statowl.com/silverlight.php http://www.statowl.com/silverlight.phpSilverlight/Flash is a great adjunct to an HTML web site (to play video or a browser game), but you're barking mad to turn two in three of your users away (except to see a basic list of stores). Aside from an initial flash in the pan from nerds like me looking at it purely because it is implemented in SL - your analytics/KPIs are going to look like a train smash in a month. The average secretary looking for some info on the next Gold Gold Silver Silver Chain Chain Sale Sale on her work PC at lunch isn't going to be able to install it anyway. Turning away 2 in 3 customers in the lead up to Christmas ... ? Hell, we try and talk customers out of using Javascript unless it is needed (so you don't lose the 5-7% of people on rubbish browsers, behind nazi proxies/anti-malware, etc) I'll get back in my box now. -- David Connors (da...@codify.com) Software Engineer Codify Pty Ltd - www.codify.com Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 363 V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Our new silverlight site
Haha, well that's generally an indicator, but they could be frugal people to save up to buy jewelery on the site =P On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:57 AM, David Burela david.bur...@readify.netwrote: well then if they can't afford a computer newer than the last 7 years, they obviously can't afford the jewlery on the website, so it is a good initial filter :-P David Burela Readify | Senior Developer** Suite 206 Nolan Tower | 29 Rakaia Way | Docklands | VIC 3008 | Australia M: +61 (0)407 363 860 | E: david.bur...@readify.net| W: www.readify.net -- *From:* ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Winston Pang [ winstonp...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, 2 December 2009 10:54 AM *To:* ozSilverlight *Subject:* Re: Our new silverlight site That's a very good point David. Not to mention that some of these secretary's have a passed down machine that's like 7 yrs old, I know this because my uncle pass's his old computers at his surgery to the secretary, and you can barely load SMH... On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:42 AM, David Connors da...@codify.com wrote: 2009/12/1 Ross McKinnon ross.mckin...@michaelhill.com.au Hi all, as you guys aren’t exactly our target market, this can’t be considered a cheap marketing email to promote our new website, but more a demonstration of how silverlight can be utilized to create a global retail branding site. [ ... ] http://www.statowl.com/silverlight.php http://www.statowl.com/silverlight.phpSilverlight/Flash is a great adjunct to an HTML web site (to play video or a browser game), but you're barking mad to turn two in three of your users away (except to see a basic list of stores). Aside from an initial flash in the pan from nerds like me looking at it purely because it is implemented in SL - your analytics/KPIs are going to look like a train smash in a month. The average secretary looking for some info on the next Gold Gold Silver Silver Chain Chain Sale Sale on her work PC at lunch isn't going to be able to install it anyway. Turning away 2 in 3 customers in the lead up to Christmas ... ? Hell, we try and talk customers out of using Javascript unless it is needed (so you don't lose the 5-7% of people on rubbish browsers, behind nazi proxies/anti-malware, etc) I'll get back in my box now. -- David Connors (da...@codify.com) Software Engineer Codify Pty Ltd - www.codify.com Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 363 V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Re: Silverlight developer position in Sydney
Which group is that posted in? On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Shane Morris shan...@microsoft.comwrote: http://www.linkedin.com/groupAnswers?viewQuestionAndAnswers=discussionID=8301808gid=65145trk=EML_anet_qa_ttle-d7hOon0JumNFomgJt7dBpSBA ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
