RE: Sketchflow for ASP.Net

2010-04-28 Thread Mitch Denny
Who says that the mock-up technology needs to be the same as the implementation 
technology. That would be like saying using PowerPoint for a mock-up is in 
appropriate because it isn't based on WPF/Silverlight/HTML/Flash whatever.

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Mitch Denny
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From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Wednesday, 28 April 2010 1:46 PM
To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
Subject: Sketchflow for ASP.Net

We have a Silverlight application and the boss likes using SketchFlow to mock 
up stuff. We are now looking at writing an ASP.Net app and he wants to know if 
he can use SketchFlow to create the mock pages.
I've not looked into it, but AFAIK it's XAML only so whilst he can create pages 
for demo,  we can't reuse for our web pages.

Is that correct? Is there another tool?

I'd hope to use ASP.net MVC framework if that makes a difference.

Cheers

Mark

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RE: Sketchflow for ASP.Net

2010-04-28 Thread Shane Morris (Automatic Studio)
The reality is most mockup tools either don't produce target platform code
(Balsamiq) or produced relatively useless target platform code (Axure). 

 

If you have Sketchflow skills already then I'd consider sticking with it.
One thing that will annoy you though is that sketchflow doesn't inherently
allow for scrolling web 'pages'. If you don't have existing Sketchflow
skills you need to consider that these 'rich' prototyping tools (Sketchflow
and Catalyst) have pro's and con's:

-  Con: harder to learn and less productive than lightweight tools
like Balsamiq

-  Pro: Able to take prototypes to a much richer level of
interactivity (and fidelity) - giving them an advantage for really rich UIs
(like you'd design for WPF or Silverlight.)

 

Shane

 

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mailto:sh...@automaticstudio.com.au sh...@automaticstudio.com.au  |  +61
438 818 888

 

 

 

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Denny
Sent: Wednesday, 28 April 2010 4:02 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Sketchflow for ASP.Net

 

Who says that the mock-up technology needs to be the same as the
implementation technology. That would be like saying using PowerPoint for a
mock-up is in appropriate because it isn't based on
WPF/Silverlight/HTML/Flash whatever.

 

Regards

Mitch Denny
Readify | Chief Technology Officer

Suite 408 Life.Lab Building | 198 Harbour Esplanade | Docklands | VIC 3008 |
Australia 

M: +61 414 610 141 | E:  mailto:mitch.de...@readify.net
mitch.de...@readify.net | W:  http://www.readify.net/ www.readify.net

 

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Wednesday, 28 April 2010 1:46 PM
To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
Subject: Sketchflow for ASP.Net

 

We have a Silverlight application and the boss likes using SketchFlow to
mock up stuff. We are now looking at writing an ASP.Net app and he wants to
know if he can use SketchFlow to create the mock pages. 

I've not looked into it, but AFAIK it's XAML only so whilst he can create
pages for demo,  we can't reuse for our web pages. 

 

Is that correct? Is there another tool?

 

I'd hope to use ASP.net MVC framework if that makes a difference.

 

Cheers

 

Mark

 

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RE: Sketchflow for ASP.Net

2010-04-28 Thread Scott Barnes
:)

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of jason schluter
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 8:39 PM
To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
Subject: RE: Sketchflow for ASP.Net

Oh Scott,

While you really should be showing this PPT to your therapist J
I can see it clearly would have been great.

Thankfully as a dev I just need www.silverlight.nethttp://www.silverlight.net

Jason
Blender3DLive

From: scott.bar...@readify.net
To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 02:01:01 -0700
Subject: RE: Sketchflow for ASP.Net
+1 agreed.

PowerPoint FTW! :) - I don't know but that seems to always be my default win 
when I run into a Sketchflow wall :)

Attached is an example of how I've used PPT in the past for website..(it was 
original my idea for how we should of done Microsoft.com/Silverlight back in 
the day  - enjoy).

Scott.


From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Shane Morris 
(Automatic Studio)
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 4:20 PM
To: 'ozSilverlight'
Subject: RE: Sketchflow for ASP.Net

The reality is most mockup tools either don't produce target platform code 
(Balsamiq) or produced relatively useless target platform code (Axure).

If you have Sketchflow skills already then I'd consider sticking with it. One 
thing that will annoy you though is that sketchflow doesn't inherently allow 
for scrolling web 'pages'. If you don't have existing Sketchflow skills you 
need to consider that these 'rich' prototyping tools (Sketchflow and Catalyst) 
have pro's and con's:
-  Con: harder to learn and less productive than lightweight tools like 
Balsamiq
-  Pro: Able to take prototypes to a much richer level of interactivity 
(and fidelity) - giving them an advantage for really rich UIs (like you'd 
design for WPF or Silverlight...)

Shane

Shane Morris  |  Automatic Studiohttp://www.automaticstudio.com.au/  |  
sh...@automaticstudio.com.aumailto:sh...@automaticstudio.com.au  |  +61 438 
818 888



From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Denny
Sent: Wednesday, 28 April 2010 4:02 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Sketchflow for ASP.Net

Who says that the mock-up technology needs to be the same as the implementation 
technology. That would be like saying using PowerPoint for a mock-up is in 
appropriate because it isn't based on WPF/Silverlight/HTML/Flash whatever.

Regards
Mitch Denny
Readify | Chief Technology Officer
Suite 408 Life.Lab Building | 198 Harbour Esplanade | Docklands | VIC 3008 | 
Australia
M: +61 414 610 141 | E: mitch.de...@readify.netmailto:mitch.de...@readify.net 
| W: www.readify.nethttp://www.readify.net/

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Wednesday, 28 April 2010 1:46 PM
To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
Subject: Sketchflow for ASP.Net

We have a Silverlight application and the boss likes using SketchFlow to mock 
up stuff. We are now looking at writing an ASP.Net app and he wants to know if 
he can use SketchFlow to create the mock pages.
I've not looked into it, but AFAIK it's XAML only so whilst he can create pages 
for demo,  we can't reuse for our web pages.

Is that correct? Is there another tool?

I'd hope to use ASP.net MVC framework if that makes a difference.

Cheers

Mark

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Re: Sketchflow for ASP.Net

2010-04-27 Thread Winston Pang
Yes, it's only for WPF or Silverlight. It's really just a set of styles that
get applied on it, that's pretty much it.


On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Mark markspambus...@gmail.com wrote:

  We have a Silverlight application and the boss likes using SketchFlow to
 mock up stuff. We are now looking at writing an ASP.Net app and he wants to
 know if he can use SketchFlow to create the mock pages.

 I’ve not looked into it, but AFAIK it’s XAML only so whilst he can create
 pages for demo,  we can’t reuse for our web pages.



 Is that correct? Is there another tool?



 I’d hope to use ASP.net MVC framework if that makes a difference.



 Cheers



 Mark



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