Are you aware of a small battery powered FM transmitter?
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Re: Stereo Translater Question
High Dock, These old TV shows are on the net as .ave files. So how can I rip them unless I burn them to VCD first? John. - Original Message - From: Doc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 6:12 AM Subject: Re: Stereo Translater Question Only thing I can suggest is to rip them as a wave, open in gold wave or sound forge and resave as a stereo wave file. Then you could reedit and enhance the stereo field. It won't get true stereo which isn't really possible starting out with a mono file but you can simulate. ** My drinking team has a bowling problem. robert Doc Wright http://www.wrightplaceinc.net msn [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:18 PM Subject: Stereo Translater Question Hello list members, I'm checking out some old TV shows on the net. They're in the .ave format if I'm spelling that right. As far as the audio goes, they all are in mono. Is there a peace of stereo translater software out there that any of you know of? Thanks in advance. John. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.4/1146 - Release Date: 11/22/2007 6:55 PM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.4/1145 - Release Date: 11/22/2007 11:49 AM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ripping, Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
Hello Ray, Please correct me if I'm wrong, but are you suggesting that a blind person couldn't use this peace of equipment? And how do you get it? John. - Original Message - From: Ray's Home [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 11:19 AM Subject: RE: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things John, sorry to disappoint, but no, its not a drive, its a piece of stand alone kit made for mastering music to hard disk, then burning off to CD. All visually driven through its own display. This is the sort of market Elisis is into. I used this machine as an example of where I've come across adjustable off-sets. Cheers, From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Hello Ray, How do I get my hands on a few of those drives? I have two desk top computers. I use one for working playing and blogging and I use the other one to deliver the gospel. Either way, I'm always ripping and burning CD's for people. John. - Original Message - From: Ray's Home [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 9:39 AM Subject: RE: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Can I add just one small thing to this, and hope it's not already been mentioned. With regard to off-sets, I have an Elisis hard disk mastering box which is designed to produce good error free, or as near as possible, Red Book CDs. One of the adjustments you can tweak is off-set. The reason for this is more to do with some CD players not handling off-sets the same way. This results in some players clipping the beginning of a track. Being able to adjust for this is useful. I'd say also that the more perfect the resultant .wav, AIFF, whatever file is you rip to, the better subsequent conversions are going to be. Yes, you don't have to go to all this trouble, but obviously some will. Cheers, From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Funny, I can't have read the authors documentation right, the author of EAC I mean, he doesn't tell you to use a faulty DCD bdrive, he tells you to use a good one. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 11:40 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 7:18 AM Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things So, if your CD-ROM is not as good as it could be then EAC is for you otherwise it's more for the paranoid ripper. The paranoid ripper? Are you referring to Jack, the paranoid ripper? grin Blessed Be, Dana that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized pronunciation dictionary that Dana=dayna. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.4/1147 - Release Date: 11/23/2007 9:19 AM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ripping, Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
Ok, well I don't think that Exact Audio Copy can be described as a gimic, the technology used in Exact Audio Copy has been used for a long time under LINUX in various CD Rippers, its also used in Max Audio Ripper under the Mac and LINUX. On 24/11/2007, at 2:58 AM, albert griffith wrote: I think the developer of EAC has a good gimmick. However, het me say in his defense that he's not trying to make money with his off-set focus. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 2:06 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Well I don't know what you're getting at quite frankly, I've heard some things in my time but I've never heard that before smile Faulty CD drives won't work with any CD ripper wither it be EAC, Windows Media Player or whatever. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 8:31 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Your situation would be that you have a bit of a dodgy CD-ROM drive if you need to use EAC. If you have a good quality drive you don't need to go to those extremes. You should always use error correction of course which will slow down your media player rips but you will get perfect results with a good quality CD-ROM and CD's in fair to good condition. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:17 AM Subject: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Media Player etc are probably fine for most people but in my situation where perfect rips and perfect copies are a must have then Media Player and others are just out of the race. As I said before, those people who are sticking with Easy CD DA Extractor (that includes Yorus Truly) are on a pretty good thind I reckon but still, Exact Audio Copy and Max Ripper are the only things I've tested which do perfect rips and perfect copies of audio CD'S. Compression? Well Danna sort of had it right and I reckon her ears are functioning smile, AAC+ is a damn good standard, its regretable that (unfortunately) EAC doesn't (as far as I know) support AAC+ internally so you have to run an external encoder, either that or do your rips with EAC (as Wave files) and convert them with something like Easy CD DA extractor which will let you do thousands of files in a batch as everyone knows, that almost defeats the purpose but still the rips are more accurate. EAC is (if set up correctly) considerably slower than Windows Media Player, taking say 7-10 minutes to rip a CD however this speed reduction is due to the comparison ripping the programme does, reading and re-reading each sector and comparing the values, I was also interested to read that Exact Audio Copy will handle copy-protected audio CD'S, not that you see too many of those round these days I don't think. Now for those who will sware by MP3 till their dying day well I admire your courage and (whilst I admit that MP3 is getting a bit long in the tooth now) you can get some very nice quality out of LAME if you tweek it, that means not using the defaults offered to you by your ripper. If you're using Winamp to play your MP3 files then it pays to use the MAD MP3 output plug-in, you'll hear the difference and MAD is not the only great MP3 decoder for Winamp either. VLC'S decoder seems to be rather nice. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of albert griffith Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2007 8:19 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Exact audio copy was developed by a good programmer who really likes his tracks to be ripped neatly. It's a good program but I like the media player as well if I'm ripping to a format they support. Example: I've ripped 500 disks in the last two weeks with it and it's been a breeze. I just push in the disk drawer and away it goes and ejects the disk when the ripping is complete. EAC. has this drive off-set stuff and while it makes files look better on paper, I can't hear a difference. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 9:40 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things I'm not familiar with EAC. Details, please. What makes it superior? I've been happily ripping with Easy CDDA since
RE: Ripping, Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
John, sorry to disappoint, but no, its not a drive, its a piece of stand alone kit made for mastering music to hard disk, then burning off to CD. All visually driven through its own display. This is the sort of market Elisis is into. I used this machine as an example of where I've come across adjustable off-sets. Cheers, From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Hello Ray, How do I get my hands on a few of those drives? I have two desk top computers. I use one for working playing and blogging and I use the other one to deliver the gospel. Either way, I'm always ripping and burning CD's for people. John. - Original Message - From: Ray's Home [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 9:39 AM Subject: RE: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Can I add just one small thing to this, and hope it's not already been mentioned. With regard to off-sets, I have an Elisis hard disk mastering box which is designed to produce good error free, or as near as possible, Red Book CDs. One of the adjustments you can tweak is off-set. The reason for this is more to do with some CD players not handling off-sets the same way. This results in some players clipping the beginning of a track. Being able to adjust for this is useful. I'd say also that the more perfect the resultant .wav, AIFF, whatever file is you rip to, the better subsequent conversions are going to be. Yes, you don't have to go to all this trouble, but obviously some will. Cheers, From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Funny, I can't have read the authors documentation right, the author of EAC I mean, he doesn't tell you to use a faulty DCD bdrive, he tells you to use a good one. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 11:40 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 7:18 AM Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things So, if your CD-ROM is not as good as it could be then EAC is for you otherwise it's more for the paranoid ripper. The paranoid ripper? Are you referring to Jack, the paranoid ripper? grin Blessed Be, Dana that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized pronunciation dictionary that Dana=dayna. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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And I just keep chuckling smile On 24/11/2007, at 2:57 AM, albert griffith wrote: Kevin, you're a good man! My sentiments exactly. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 1:31 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Your situation would be that you have a bit of a dodgy CD-ROM drive if you need to use EAC. If you have a good quality drive you don't need to go to those extremes. You should always use error correction of course which will slow down your media player rips but you will get perfect results with a good quality CD-ROM and CD's in fair to good condition. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:17 AM Subject: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Media Player etc are probably fine for most people but in my situation where perfect rips and perfect copies are a must have then Media Player and others are just out of the race. As I said before, those people who are sticking with Easy CD DA Extractor (that includes Yorus Truly) are on a pretty good thind I reckon but still, Exact Audio Copy and Max Ripper are the only things I've tested which do perfect rips and perfect copies of audio CD'S. Compression? Well Danna sort of had it right and I reckon her ears are functioning smile, AAC+ is a damn good standard, its regretable that (unfortunately) EAC doesn't (as far as I know) support AAC+ internally so you have to run an external encoder, either that or do your rips with EAC (as Wave files) and convert them with something like Easy CD DA extractor which will let you do thousands of files in a batch as everyone knows, that almost defeats the purpose but still the rips are more accurate. EAC is (if set up correctly) considerably slower than Windows Media Player, taking say 7-10 minutes to rip a CD however this speed reduction is due to the comparison ripping the programme does, reading and re-reading each sector and comparing the values, I was also interested to read that Exact Audio Copy will handle copy-protected audio CD'S, not that you see too many of those round these days I don't think. Now for those who will sware by MP3 till their dying day well I admire your courage and (whilst I admit that MP3 is getting a bit long in the tooth now) you can get some very nice quality out of LAME if you tweek it, that means not using the defaults offered to you by your ripper. If you're using Winamp to play your MP3 files then it pays to use the MAD MP3 output plug-in, you'll hear the difference and MAD is not the only great MP3 decoder for Winamp either. VLC'S decoder seems to be rather nice. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of albert griffith Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2007 8:19 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Exact audio copy was developed by a good programmer who really likes his tracks to be ripped neatly. It's a good program but I like the media player as well if I'm ripping to a format they support. Example: I've ripped 500 disks in the last two weeks with it and it's been a breeze. I just push in the disk drawer and away it goes and ejects the disk when the ripping is complete. EAC. has this drive off-set stuff and while it makes files look better on paper, I can't hear a difference. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 9:40 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things I'm not familiar with EAC. Details, please. What makes it superior? I've been happily ripping with Easy CDDA since version 4 or 5, I think. Can't imagine an easier interface, or better results. Blessed Be, Dana that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized pronunciation dictionary that Dana=dayna. D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: dsleslie Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:15 PM Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Yeah, well the software is only going to be used for conversion here as I find that EAC does a far better job at ripping, honestly that software is
Re: Ripping, Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
Exactly, when they say losless then that's exactly what they mean. On 24/11/2007, at 3:11 AM, Kevin Lloyd wrote: There should be no difference at all in sound quality between FLAC and WMA lossless and little or no difference in file size. The choice is really then about support for the format. That is, how many software and hardware players will play WMA compared to those that will support FLAC. I don't know much more about FLAC but it strikes me as more of a archive and don't touch kind of format whereas WMA lossless, for me at least, provides both the archive and the convenience of being widely supported. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 4:01 PM Subject: RE: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Is there a tremendous difference in flak lossless verses WMA lossless? It seems if they're both lossless and work as advertized, each would yield similar results. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 4:40 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 7:18 AM Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things So, if your CD-ROM is not as good as it could be then EAC is for you otherwise it's more for the paranoid ripper. The paranoid ripper? Are you referring to Jack, the paranoid ripper? grin Blessed Be, Dana that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized pronunciation dictionary that Dana=dayna. D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: dsleslie Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ripping, Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
There should be no difference at all in sound quality between FLAC and WMA lossless and little or no difference in file size. The choice is really then about support for the format. That is, how many software and hardware players will play WMA compared to those that will support FLAC. I don't know much more about FLAC but it strikes me as more of a archive and don't touch kind of format whereas WMA lossless, for me at least, provides both the archive and the convenience of being widely supported. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 4:01 PM Subject: RE: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Is there a tremendous difference in flak lossless verses WMA lossless? It seems if they're both lossless and work as advertized, each would yield similar results. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 4:40 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 7:18 AM Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things So, if your CD-ROM is not as good as it could be then EAC is for you otherwise it's more for the paranoid ripper. The paranoid ripper? Are you referring to Jack, the paranoid ripper? grin Blessed Be, Dana that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized pronunciation dictionary that Dana=dayna. D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: dsleslie Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Ripping, Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
I think the developer of EAC has a good gimmick. However, het me say in his defense that he's not trying to make money with his off-set focus. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 2:06 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Well I don't know what you're getting at quite frankly, I've heard some things in my time but I've never heard that before smile Faulty CD drives won't work with any CD ripper wither it be EAC, Windows Media Player or whatever. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 8:31 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Your situation would be that you have a bit of a dodgy CD-ROM drive if you need to use EAC. If you have a good quality drive you don't need to go to those extremes. You should always use error correction of course which will slow down your media player rips but you will get perfect results with a good quality CD-ROM and CD's in fair to good condition. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:17 AM Subject: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Media Player etc are probably fine for most people but in my situation where perfect rips and perfect copies are a must have then Media Player and others are just out of the race. As I said before, those people who are sticking with Easy CD DA Extractor (that includes Yorus Truly) are on a pretty good thind I reckon but still, Exact Audio Copy and Max Ripper are the only things I've tested which do perfect rips and perfect copies of audio CD'S. Compression? Well Danna sort of had it right and I reckon her ears are functioning smile, AAC+ is a damn good standard, its regretable that (unfortunately) EAC doesn't (as far as I know) support AAC+ internally so you have to run an external encoder, either that or do your rips with EAC (as Wave files) and convert them with something like Easy CD DA extractor which will let you do thousands of files in a batch as everyone knows, that almost defeats the purpose but still the rips are more accurate. EAC is (if set up correctly) considerably slower than Windows Media Player, taking say 7-10 minutes to rip a CD however this speed reduction is due to the comparison ripping the programme does, reading and re-reading each sector and comparing the values, I was also interested to read that Exact Audio Copy will handle copy-protected audio CD'S, not that you see too many of those round these days I don't think. Now for those who will sware by MP3 till their dying day well I admire your courage and (whilst I admit that MP3 is getting a bit long in the tooth now) you can get some very nice quality out of LAME if you tweek it, that means not using the defaults offered to you by your ripper. If you're using Winamp to play your MP3 files then it pays to use the MAD MP3 output plug-in, you'll hear the difference and MAD is not the only great MP3 decoder for Winamp either. VLC'S decoder seems to be rather nice. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of albert griffith Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2007 8:19 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Exact audio copy was developed by a good programmer who really likes his tracks to be ripped neatly. It's a good program but I like the media player as well if I'm ripping to a format they support. Example: I've ripped 500 disks in the last two weeks with it and it's been a breeze. I just push in the disk drawer and away it goes and ejects the disk when the ripping is complete. EAC. has this drive off-set stuff and while it makes files look better on paper, I can't hear a difference. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 9:40 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things I'm not familiar with EAC. Details, please. What makes it superior? I've been happily ripping with Easy CDDA since version 4 or 5, I think. Can't imagine an easier interface, or better results. Blessed Be, Dana that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized pronunciation dictionary that Dana=dayna. D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: dsleslie Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Ripping, Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
Kevin, you're a good man! My sentiments exactly. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 1:31 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Your situation would be that you have a bit of a dodgy CD-ROM drive if you need to use EAC. If you have a good quality drive you don't need to go to those extremes. You should always use error correction of course which will slow down your media player rips but you will get perfect results with a good quality CD-ROM and CD's in fair to good condition. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:17 AM Subject: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Media Player etc are probably fine for most people but in my situation where perfect rips and perfect copies are a must have then Media Player and others are just out of the race. As I said before, those people who are sticking with Easy CD DA Extractor (that includes Yorus Truly) are on a pretty good thind I reckon but still, Exact Audio Copy and Max Ripper are the only things I've tested which do perfect rips and perfect copies of audio CD'S. Compression? Well Danna sort of had it right and I reckon her ears are functioning smile, AAC+ is a damn good standard, its regretable that (unfortunately) EAC doesn't (as far as I know) support AAC+ internally so you have to run an external encoder, either that or do your rips with EAC (as Wave files) and convert them with something like Easy CD DA extractor which will let you do thousands of files in a batch as everyone knows, that almost defeats the purpose but still the rips are more accurate. EAC is (if set up correctly) considerably slower than Windows Media Player, taking say 7-10 minutes to rip a CD however this speed reduction is due to the comparison ripping the programme does, reading and re-reading each sector and comparing the values, I was also interested to read that Exact Audio Copy will handle copy-protected audio CD'S, not that you see too many of those round these days I don't think. Now for those who will sware by MP3 till their dying day well I admire your courage and (whilst I admit that MP3 is getting a bit long in the tooth now) you can get some very nice quality out of LAME if you tweek it, that means not using the defaults offered to you by your ripper. If you're using Winamp to play your MP3 files then it pays to use the MAD MP3 output plug-in, you'll hear the difference and MAD is not the only great MP3 decoder for Winamp either. VLC'S decoder seems to be rather nice. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of albert griffith Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2007 8:19 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Exact audio copy was developed by a good programmer who really likes his tracks to be ripped neatly. It's a good program but I like the media player as well if I'm ripping to a format they support. Example: I've ripped 500 disks in the last two weeks with it and it's been a breeze. I just push in the disk drawer and away it goes and ejects the disk when the ripping is complete. EAC. has this drive off-set stuff and while it makes files look better on paper, I can't hear a difference. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 9:40 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things I'm not familiar with EAC. Details, please. What makes it superior? I've been happily ripping with Easy CDDA since version 4 or 5, I think. Can't imagine an easier interface, or better results. Blessed Be, Dana that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized pronunciation dictionary that Dana=dayna. D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: dsleslie Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:15 PM Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Yeah, well the software is only going to be used for conversion here as I find that EAC does a far better job at ripping, honestly that software is the best ripper on the earth I reckon. On 22/11/2007, at 2:29 PM, Dana S. Leslie wrote: Dane, Glad to help. And, thank you for alerting me to the change. As I said in my last message, I mostly only ever use the program to rip CDs to my hard drive. But, occasionally, I will convert
Re: Are you aware of a small battery powered FM transmitter?
I'm not familiar with that one but I have the Linex portable and have used it when I need a portable transmitter. It works quite well especially for the price. - Original Message - From: Mike Pietruk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 9:38 AM Subject: Re: Are you aware of a small battery powered FM transmitter? The one that caught my attention on that page was the Audiax ii. Anyone personally familiar with this unit; my Googling seems to suggest that the Audiax II is superior to the original Audiax in both range and battery life on its single Tripple a battery. On Fri, 23 Nov 2007, Dave McLean wrote: Try: http://www.themindfactory.com - Original Message - From: Jerry Richer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 3:52 AM Subject: Are you aware of a small battery powered FM transmitter? Are you aware of a small battery powered FM transmitter? I want something to broadcast the output from a ZenStone to an FM radio up to twenty feet away. I have a Sound Feeder but that isn't working well enough for me. Jerry Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! Edirol R-09: high quality portable stereo Secure Digital Audio recorder with USB, $359.00, includes delivery within the USA, add $35.00 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/edirol.shtml ! DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, includes delivery within the USA, add $35 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml ! J-Say 4.0 without Naturally Speaking: $650.00, www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml ! Window Eyes 6.0: $895, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml ! Triple Talk: USB $450, PCI $350, includes delivery within the USA, add $35 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/tripletalk.shtml ! Sound Forge 9.0 with CD Architect 5.2 and Noise Reduction 2.0: $250, includes delivery within the USA, add $35 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! We accept PayPal All Major Credit Cards, money orders, checks, wire transfers, etc. We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml Reach BA Software in the United States at: Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sornar4 question regarding metranome staying on
Hi All, When recording in Sornar4 now my metranome must be checked off during record. Before it never came on unless I chose this option. Does anyone know where to change this option to be defaulted off? I looked under preferences and metranome page. When I Uncheck tthe record box, the metranome just stays off during that session. Once I open up a new session, I must uncheck the box again. any help would be very very appreciated. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Realplayer 11
Yeah, but, even if I like it, I still want an executable installation file on my hard drive, for backup, etc. If they're not going to give me that much, well, I have no particular need to upgrade, anyway. - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 4:08 PM Subject: RE: Realplayer 11 Dana, I had the same problem. I just let it run figuring if it installed a bunch of junk, I'd delete it later. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 12:47 PM To: PC-Audio Subject: Realplayer 11 I just went to Real.com to download the free version of realplayer 11. The only download link I could find on the front page present you with run and cancel buttons only. Does anyone know how to download and save an installation file of the free 11.0? Thank you. Blessed Be, Dana that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized pronunciation dictionary that Dana=dayna. D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: dsleslie Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 2682 (20071123) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ripping, Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
Ok, well anything's possible, I'm not going to argue about it either but to my knowledge my CD drives are working, I think its just too easy for people to use the argument that people are using faulty equipment rather than evaluating facts, I've gladly stuck my neck out for Exact Audio Copy, Easy CD DA Extractor and other pieces of software and I back them because I've used them. Sure! nothing's perfect (including yours truly) and I value other list members who have put me on the right track and answered questions that I've had. Yep, use whatever ripper you like, I don't rubbish every ripper and I've never done, I've said and I'll continue to say that all rippers are not equal, some rippers are better than others just as some shareware packages are better than those you buy. On 24/11/2007, at 2:46 AM, Kevin Lloyd wrote: Well, maybe you have a reading problem too. I actually said worrying about waveforms not listening to them. Last I'll say on this subject as it's getting a bit tedious and tiresome now. I guess it's just difficult to take some opinions objectively when you see so many ridiculous anti- windows and anti-microsoft comments. I do go to a lot of trouble when ripping as I've got my collection of 900 CD's ripped in lossless and have my music hooked up to a high end hifi system. Bottomline is that I trust my hearing so can tell a perfect rip from one with imperfections. No doubt you'll want to respond with some sarcastic nonsense again but read the e-mail a few times first so that you're able to comprehend it this time. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 2:24 PM Subject: RE: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Dear Dear, perhaps I didn't explain things correctly, when I meant comparing wave files I meant actually comparing them with your PC, Mac or whatever, that's one of the many wonders with computers, you can compare the files byte-for-byte in a matter of seconds. Me listening to wave forms? Well now, that's given me the first laugh for a Saturday morning, I have an 80% hearing loss so that would be of little use to me smile. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: Saturday, 24 November 2007 12:11 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Yep, that'll be him... Spent so much time worrying about his waveform that he forgot about sitting back and enjoying listening to his music... Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dana S. Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 12:40 PM Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 7:18 AM Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things So, if your CD-ROM is not as good as it could be then EAC is for you otherwise it's more for the paranoid ripper. The paranoid ripper? Are you referring to Jack, the paranoid ripper? grin Blessed Be, Dana that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized pronunciation dictionary that Dana=dayna. D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: dsleslie Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Ripping, Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
Is there a tremendous difference in flak lossless verses WMA lossless? It seems if they're both lossless and work as advertized, each would yield similar results. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 4:40 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 7:18 AM Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things So, if your CD-ROM is not as good as it could be then EAC is for you otherwise it's more for the paranoid ripper. The paranoid ripper? Are you referring to Jack, the paranoid ripper? grin Blessed Be, Dana that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized pronunciation dictionary that Dana=dayna. D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: dsleslie Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ripping, Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
Well, maybe you have a reading problem too. I actually said worrying about waveforms not listening to them. Last I'll say on this subject as it's getting a bit tedious and tiresome now. I guess it's just difficult to take some opinions objectively when you see so many ridiculous anti-windows and anti-microsoft comments. I do go to a lot of trouble when ripping as I've got my collection of 900 CD's ripped in lossless and have my music hooked up to a high end hifi system. Bottomline is that I trust my hearing so can tell a perfect rip from one with imperfections. No doubt you'll want to respond with some sarcastic nonsense again but read the e-mail a few times first so that you're able to comprehend it this time. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 2:24 PM Subject: RE: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Dear Dear, perhaps I didn't explain things correctly, when I meant comparing wave files I meant actually comparing them with your PC, Mac or whatever, that's one of the many wonders with computers, you can compare the files byte-for-byte in a matter of seconds. Me listening to wave forms? Well now, that's given me the first laugh for a Saturday morning, I have an 80% hearing loss so that would be of little use to me smile. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: Saturday, 24 November 2007 12:11 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Yep, that'll be him... Spent so much time worrying about his waveform that he forgot about sitting back and enjoying listening to his music... Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dana S. Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 12:40 PM Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 7:18 AM Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things So, if your CD-ROM is not as good as it could be then EAC is for you otherwise it's more for the paranoid ripper. The paranoid ripper? Are you referring to Jack, the paranoid ripper? grin Blessed Be, Dana that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized pronunciation dictionary that Dana=dayna. D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: dsleslie Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are you aware of a small battery powered FM transmitter?
High Jarry, I don't know if this would be of much help to you, but there is a very small fm radio transmiter that you can get from RadioShack for $29.95. It runs on two trippel a batteries. It was made exactly for MP3 players. John. - Original Message - From: Jerry Richer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 3:52 AM Subject: Are you aware of a small battery powered FM transmitter? Are you aware of a small battery powered FM transmitter? I want something to broadcast the output from a ZenStone to an FM radio up to twenty feet away. I have a Sound Feeder but that isn't working well enough for me. Jerry Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! Edirol R-09: high quality portable stereo Secure Digital Audio recorder with USB, $359.00, includes delivery within the USA, add $35.00 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/edirol.shtml ! DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, includes delivery within the USA, add $35 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml ! J-Say 4.0 without Naturally Speaking: $650.00, www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml ! Window Eyes 6.0: $895, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml ! Triple Talk: USB $450, PCI $350, includes delivery within the USA, add $35 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/tripletalk.shtml ! Sound Forge 9.0 with CD Architect 5.2 and Noise Reduction 2.0: $250, includes delivery within the USA, add $35 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! We accept PayPal All Major Credit Cards, money orders, checks, wire transfers, etc. We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml Reach BA Software in the United States at: Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.4/1145 - Release Date: 11/22/2007 11:49 AM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Ripping, Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
Yep thanks for that, again I'm at fault a bit here, when I spoke of xomparing wave files I wasn't talking about listening, that would be near impossible for me at least, I meant comparing them with a tool that does thatsort of thing. Exact Audio Copy and Max Rippers have such tools and I dare say other rippers do as well. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray's Home Sent: Saturday, 24 November 2007 1:40 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Can I add just one small thing to this, and hope it's not already been mentioned. With regard to off-sets, I have an Elisis hard disk mastering box which is designed to produce good error free, or as near as possible, Red Book CDs. One of the adjustments you can tweak is off-set. The reason for this is more to do with some CD players not handling off-sets the same way. This results in some players clipping the beginning of a track. Being able to adjust for this is useful. I'd say also that the more perfect the resultant .wav, AIFF, whatever file is you rip to, the better subsequent conversions are going to be. Yes, you don't have to go to all this trouble, but obviously some will. Cheers, From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Funny, I can't have read the authors documentation right, the author of EAC I mean, he doesn't tell you to use a faulty DCD bdrive, he tells you to use a good one. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 11:40 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 7:18 AM Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things So, if your CD-ROM is not as good as it could be then EAC is for you otherwise it's more for the paranoid ripper. The paranoid ripper? Are you referring to Jack, the paranoid ripper? grin Blessed Be, Dana that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized pronunciation dictionary that Dana=dayna. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Ripping, Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
Can I add just one small thing to this, and hope it's not already been mentioned. With regard to off-sets, I have an Elisis hard disk mastering box which is designed to produce good error free, or as near as possible, Red Book CDs. One of the adjustments you can tweak is off-set. The reason for this is more to do with some CD players not handling off-sets the same way. This results in some players clipping the beginning of a track. Being able to adjust for this is useful. I'd say also that the more perfect the resultant .wav, AIFF, whatever file is you rip to, the better subsequent conversions are going to be. Yes, you don't have to go to all this trouble, but obviously some will. Cheers, From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Funny, I can't have read the authors documentation right, the author of EAC I mean, he doesn't tell you to use a faulty DCD bdrive, he tells you to use a good one. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 11:40 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 7:18 AM Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things So, if your CD-ROM is not as good as it could be then EAC is for you otherwise it's more for the paranoid ripper. The paranoid ripper? Are you referring to Jack, the paranoid ripper? grin Blessed Be, Dana that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized pronunciation dictionary that Dana=dayna. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are you aware of a small battery powered FM transmitter?
The one that caught my attention on that page was the Audiax ii. Anyone personally familiar with this unit; my Googling seems to suggest that the Audiax II is superior to the original Audiax in both range and battery life on its single Tripple a battery. On Fri, 23 Nov 2007, Dave McLean wrote: Try: http://www.themindfactory.com - Original Message - From: Jerry Richer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 3:52 AM Subject: Are you aware of a small battery powered FM transmitter? Are you aware of a small battery powered FM transmitter? I want something to broadcast the output from a ZenStone to an FM radio up to twenty feet away. I have a Sound Feeder but that isn't working well enough for me. Jerry Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! Edirol R-09: high quality portable stereo Secure Digital Audio recorder with USB, $359.00, includes delivery within the USA, add $35.00 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/edirol.shtml ! DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, includes delivery within the USA, add $35 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml ! J-Say 4.0 without Naturally Speaking: $650.00, www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml ! Window Eyes 6.0: $895, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml ! Triple Talk: USB $450, PCI $350, includes delivery within the USA, add $35 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/tripletalk.shtml ! Sound Forge 9.0 with CD Architect 5.2 and Noise Reduction 2.0: $250, includes delivery within the USA, add $35 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! We accept PayPal All Major Credit Cards, money orders, checks, wire transfers, etc. We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml Reach BA Software in the United States at: Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Ripping, Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
Funny, I can't have read the authors documentation right, the author of EAC I mean, he doesn't tell you to use a faulty DCD bdrive, he tells you to use a good one. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 11:40 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 7:18 AM Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things So, if your CD-ROM is not as good as it could be then EAC is for you otherwise it's more for the paranoid ripper. The paranoid ripper? Are you referring to Jack, the paranoid ripper? grin Blessed Be, Dana that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized pronunciation dictionary that Dana=dayna. D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: dsleslie Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Ripping, Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
Dear Dear, perhaps I didn't explain things correctly, when I meant comparing wave files I meant actually comparing them with your PC, Mac or whatever, that's one of the many wonders with computers, you can compare the files byte-for-byte in a matter of seconds. Me listening to wave forms? Well now, that's given me the first laugh for a Saturday morning, I have an 80% hearing loss so that would be of little use to me smile. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: Saturday, 24 November 2007 12:11 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Yep, that'll be him... Spent so much time worrying about his waveform that he forgot about sitting back and enjoying listening to his music... Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dana S. Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 12:40 PM Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 7:18 AM Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things So, if your CD-ROM is not as good as it could be then EAC is for you otherwise it's more for the paranoid ripper. The paranoid ripper? Are you referring to Jack, the paranoid ripper? grin Blessed Be, Dana that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized pronunciation dictionary that Dana=dayna. D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: dsleslie Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ripping, Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
- Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 7:18 AM Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things So, if your CD-ROM is not as good as it could be then EAC is for you otherwise it's more for the paranoid ripper. The paranoid ripper? Are you referring to Jack, the paranoid ripper? grin Blessed Be, Dana that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized pronunciation dictionary that Dana=dayna. D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: dsleslie Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ripping,Copying and Encoding
How about using a laptop with your external drive and an external synthesizer like triple talk? ** My drinking team has a bowling problem. robert Doc Wright http://www.wrightplaceinc.net msn [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 11:08 AM Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and Encoding High all list members, Saving all of your music to a USB hard drive is all well and good. But if you have a paying job on the week ends as a DJ, how do you run that music through your mixer if you don't burn some of it to CD? I haven't seen one of these out there, but perhaps there is a digital mixer that lets you plug these hard drives in to it via USB ports? John. Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 1:07 PM Subject: RE: Ripping,Copying and Encoding Even though I've just ripped most of my collection I find my new found ability to access everything liberating. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 6:30 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and Encoding Ah, but you see, I prefer to play all my music, using Winamp, directly from the AAC files on my external drive, and keep my CDs stored for archival backup. That way, I don't have to go fumbling through hundreds of CDs to find a particular track. Until recently, I think, Winamp wouldn't play from DVDs. And, even now, fumbling through a couple of hundred DVDs isn't much more convenient than fumbling through several hundred CDs. Blessed Be, Dana that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized pronunciation dictionary that Dana=dayna. D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: dsleslie Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 9:04 AM Subject: RE: Ripping,Copying and Encoding That's a consideration of course, that's why I've put all my Cue/FLAC files on to DVD-RW'S, that way I can compress to whatever format I like and if I ever want to change them I just put the DVD'S into the drive and repeat the compression process for another format. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 12:56 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and Encoding If I had the space, I would rip everything to FLAC. But, If I did so I couldn't fit all my hundreds of CDs onto my two 300 gig external drives. With AAC+, I can. The use of ANY lossy format involves a trade-off between quality and space. To my mind, AAC+ at 192kbps is the best trade-off I've found. Blessed Be, Dana that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized pronunciation dictionary that Dana=dayna. D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: dsleslie Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 11:40 AM Subject: RE: Ripping,Copying and Encoding Now, that makes sense to me. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 5:39 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Ripping,Copying and Encoding Ok, well here's a perfect example why I use Cue and FLAC files, any new format comes along that's superior to another? Then it's a snap to convert the content, particularly with Easy CD DA Extractor. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of albert griffith Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 3:34 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things If I missed something, please bare with me but what are the advantages of acc plus? I'm relatively new at this and I've just converted hundreds of disks to wma lossless in the believe that I'd lose very little in the way of sound quality. Plus someone on one of my lists suggested it. However, I wouldn't be adverse to keeping high quality sound using less space. I sampled mp3's at 192kbps but I didn't like the way they sounded on more powerful sound systems with bigger speakers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dana
Re: Ripping, Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
Your situation would be that you have a bit of a dodgy CD-ROM drive if you need to use EAC. If you have a good quality drive you don't need to go to those extremes. You should always use error correction of course which will slow down your media player rips but you will get perfect results with a good quality CD-ROM and CD's in fair to good condition. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:17 AM Subject: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Media Player etc are probably fine for most people but in my situation where perfect rips and perfect copies are a must have then Media Player and others are just out of the race. As I said before, those people who are sticking with Easy CD DA Extractor (that includes Yorus Truly) are on a pretty good thind I reckon but still, Exact Audio Copy and Max Ripper are the only things I've tested which do perfect rips and perfect copies of audio CD'S. Compression? Well Danna sort of had it right and I reckon her ears are functioning smile, AAC+ is a damn good standard, its regretable that (unfortunately) EAC doesn't (as far as I know) support AAC+ internally so you have to run an external encoder, either that or do your rips with EAC (as Wave files) and convert them with something like Easy CD DA extractor which will let you do thousands of files in a batch as everyone knows, that almost defeats the purpose but still the rips are more accurate. EAC is (if set up correctly) considerably slower than Windows Media Player, taking say 7-10 minutes to rip a CD however this speed reduction is due to the comparison ripping the programme does, reading and re-reading each sector and comparing the values, I was also interested to read that Exact Audio Copy will handle copy-protected audio CD'S, not that you see too many of those round these days I don't think. Now for those who will sware by MP3 till their dying day well I admire your courage and (whilst I admit that MP3 is getting a bit long in the tooth now) you can get some very nice quality out of LAME if you tweek it, that means not using the defaults offered to you by your ripper. If you're using Winamp to play your MP3 files then it pays to use the MAD MP3 output plug-in, you'll hear the difference and MAD is not the only great MP3 decoder for Winamp either. VLC'S decoder seems to be rather nice. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of albert griffith Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2007 8:19 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Exact audio copy was developed by a good programmer who really likes his tracks to be ripped neatly. It's a good program but I like the media player as well if I'm ripping to a format they support. Example: I've ripped 500 disks in the last two weeks with it and it's been a breeze. I just push in the disk drawer and away it goes and ejects the disk when the ripping is complete. EAC. has this drive off-set stuff and while it makes files look better on paper, I can't hear a difference. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 9:40 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things I'm not familiar with EAC. Details, please. What makes it superior? I've been happily ripping with Easy CDDA since version 4 or 5, I think. Can't imagine an easier interface, or better results. Blessed Be, Dana that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized pronunciation dictionary that Dana=dayna. D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: dsleslie Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:15 PM Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Yeah, well the software is only going to be used for conversion here as I find that EAC does a far better job at ripping, honestly that software is the best ripper on the earth I reckon. On 22/11/2007, at 2:29 PM, Dana S. Leslie wrote: Dane, Glad to help. And, thank you for alerting me to the change. As I said in my last message, I mostly only ever use the program to rip CDs to my hard drive. But, occasionally, I will convert some files. If you hadn't alerted me, I probably would have been happily ripping away with version 11, and been very surprised and frustrated when I did, eventually, want to do a conversion. Blessed Be, Dana that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A If your synthesizer pronounces them
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Re: Stereo Translater Question
Why don't you record it, using any peace of software, and save it as a stereo file. then, edit it as you please. From, Timothy - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 5:41 PM Subject: Re: Stereo Translater Question High Dock, I don't have that program. I'd get it, but they won't let you place an order for it over the phone. You have to protect your credit card info if you know what I mean. John. - Original Message - From: Doc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 4:56 PM Subject: Re: Stereo Translater Question How about rerecording them via total recorder then you could save them in stereo, somewhat. ** My drinking team has a bowling problem. robert Doc Wright http://www.wrightplaceinc.net msn [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 7:58 AM Subject: Re: Stereo Translater Question High Dock, These old TV shows are on the net as .ave files. So how can I rip them unless I burn them to VCD first? John. - Original Message - From: Doc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 6:12 AM Subject: Re: Stereo Translater Question Only thing I can suggest is to rip them as a wave, open in gold wave or sound forge and resave as a stereo wave file. Then you could reedit and enhance the stereo field. It won't get true stereo which isn't really possible starting out with a mono file but you can simulate. ** My drinking team has a bowling problem. robert Doc Wright http://www.wrightplaceinc.net msn [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:18 PM Subject: Stereo Translater Question Hello list members, I'm checking out some old TV shows on the net. They're in the .ave format if I'm spelling that right. As far as the audio goes, they all are in mono. Is there a peace of stereo translater software out there that any of you know of? Thanks in advance. John. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.4/1146 - Release Date: 11/22/2007 6:55 PM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.4/1145 - Release Date: 11/22/2007 11:49 AM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.4/1146 - Release Date: 11/22/2007 6:55 PM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.4/1147 - Release Date: 11/23/2007 9:19 AM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Realplayer 11
Dana, I had the same problem. I just let it run figuring if it installed a bunch of junk, I'd delete it later. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 12:47 PM To: PC-Audio Subject: Realplayer 11 I just went to Real.com to download the free version of realplayer 11. The only download link I could find on the front page present you with run and cancel buttons only. Does anyone know how to download and save an installation file of the free 11.0? Thank you. Blessed Be, Dana that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized pronunciation dictionary that Dana=dayna. D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: dsleslie Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ripping, Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
Hello Ray, How do I get my hands on a few of those drives? I have two desk top computers. I use one for working playing and blogging and I use the other one to deliver the gospel. Either way, I'm always ripping and burning CD's for people. John. - Original Message - From: Ray's Home [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 9:39 AM Subject: RE: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Can I add just one small thing to this, and hope it's not already been mentioned. With regard to off-sets, I have an Elisis hard disk mastering box which is designed to produce good error free, or as near as possible, Red Book CDs. One of the adjustments you can tweak is off-set. The reason for this is more to do with some CD players not handling off-sets the same way. This results in some players clipping the beginning of a track. Being able to adjust for this is useful. I'd say also that the more perfect the resultant .wav, AIFF, whatever file is you rip to, the better subsequent conversions are going to be. Yes, you don't have to go to all this trouble, but obviously some will. Cheers, From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Funny, I can't have read the authors documentation right, the author of EAC I mean, he doesn't tell you to use a faulty DCD bdrive, he tells you to use a good one. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 11:40 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 7:18 AM Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things So, if your CD-ROM is not as good as it could be then EAC is for you otherwise it's more for the paranoid ripper. The paranoid ripper? Are you referring to Jack, the paranoid ripper? grin Blessed Be, Dana that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized pronunciation dictionary that Dana=dayna. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.4/1145 - Release Date: 11/22/2007 11:49 AM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Ripping, Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
Well I don't know what you're getting at quite frankly, I've heard some things in my time but I've never heard that before smile Faulty CD drives won't work with any CD ripper wither it be EAC, Windows Media Player or whatever. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 8:31 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Your situation would be that you have a bit of a dodgy CD-ROM drive if you need to use EAC. If you have a good quality drive you don't need to go to those extremes. You should always use error correction of course which will slow down your media player rips but you will get perfect results with a good quality CD-ROM and CD's in fair to good condition. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:17 AM Subject: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Media Player etc are probably fine for most people but in my situation where perfect rips and perfect copies are a must have then Media Player and others are just out of the race. As I said before, those people who are sticking with Easy CD DA Extractor (that includes Yorus Truly) are on a pretty good thind I reckon but still, Exact Audio Copy and Max Ripper are the only things I've tested which do perfect rips and perfect copies of audio CD'S. Compression? Well Danna sort of had it right and I reckon her ears are functioning smile, AAC+ is a damn good standard, its regretable that (unfortunately) EAC doesn't (as far as I know) support AAC+ internally so you have to run an external encoder, either that or do your rips with EAC (as Wave files) and convert them with something like Easy CD DA extractor which will let you do thousands of files in a batch as everyone knows, that almost defeats the purpose but still the rips are more accurate. EAC is (if set up correctly) considerably slower than Windows Media Player, taking say 7-10 minutes to rip a CD however this speed reduction is due to the comparison ripping the programme does, reading and re-reading each sector and comparing the values, I was also interested to read that Exact Audio Copy will handle copy-protected audio CD'S, not that you see too many of those round these days I don't think. Now for those who will sware by MP3 till their dying day well I admire your courage and (whilst I admit that MP3 is getting a bit long in the tooth now) you can get some very nice quality out of LAME if you tweek it, that means not using the defaults offered to you by your ripper. If you're using Winamp to play your MP3 files then it pays to use the MAD MP3 output plug-in, you'll hear the difference and MAD is not the only great MP3 decoder for Winamp either. VLC'S decoder seems to be rather nice. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of albert griffith Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2007 8:19 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Exact audio copy was developed by a good programmer who really likes his tracks to be ripped neatly. It's a good program but I like the media player as well if I'm ripping to a format they support. Example: I've ripped 500 disks in the last two weeks with it and it's been a breeze. I just push in the disk drawer and away it goes and ejects the disk when the ripping is complete. EAC. has this drive off-set stuff and while it makes files look better on paper, I can't hear a difference. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 9:40 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things I'm not familiar with EAC. Details, please. What makes it superior? I've been happily ripping with Easy CDDA since version 4 or 5, I think. Can't imagine an easier interface, or better results. Blessed Be, Dana that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized pronunciation dictionary that Dana=dayna. D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: dsleslie Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:15 PM Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Yeah, well the software is only going to be used for conversion here as I find that EAC does a far better job at ripping, honestly that software is the best ripper on the earth I reckon. On 22/11/2007, at 2:29 PM, Dana S. Leslie wrote: Dane, Glad to
Re: Stereo Translater Question
Only thing I can suggest is to rip them as a wave, open in gold wave or sound forge and resave as a stereo wave file. Then you could reedit and enhance the stereo field. It won't get true stereo which isn't really possible starting out with a mono file but you can simulate. ** My drinking team has a bowling problem. robert Doc Wright http://www.wrightplaceinc.net msn [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:18 PM Subject: Stereo Translater Question Hello list members, I'm checking out some old TV shows on the net. They're in the .ave format if I'm spelling that right. As far as the audio goes, they all are in mono. Is there a peace of stereo translater software out there that any of you know of? Thanks in advance. John. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.4/1146 - Release Date: 11/22/2007 6:55 PM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The advantages of flak?
I've heard people speaking of flac but since my portable player will not play it I can't see going through the hastle of conversion just to upload to my ipod. ** My drinking team has a bowling problem. robert Doc Wright http://www.wrightplaceinc.net msn [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Steve Matzura [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 8:39 PM Subject: Re: The advantages of flak? On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 20:37:10 -0800, you wrote: I've been able to hear comparisons of mp3 and wma formats but not flak. Are there advantages of flak over either or both of these other than some people believe it sounds better? thanks The L in FLAC stands for lossless. Theoretically, what goes in, comes out--that is, it's supposed to sound identical to the wave file that sourced the FLAC archive file. You are also supposed to be able to decode a FLAC file and get the original wave file back. I've never tried this but would be keen to know if it's actually true, bit for bit. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.4/1146 - Release Date: 11/22/2007 6:55 PM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ripping,Copying and Encoding
programs like winamp have crossfading features. ** My drinking team has a bowling problem. robert Doc Wright http://www.wrightplaceinc.net msn [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 4:00 PM Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and Encoding High Kevin, That all sounds good, but what about cueing and cross fading? Wouldn't you need two labtops to do that? John. - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 3:05 PM Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and Encoding You could take a laptop with you and connect both a hard drive and USB soundcard connected to your mixer without really taking up too much more space. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 7:37 PM Subject: RE: Ripping,Copying and Encoding Well another way may be to get a Hard Drive jukebox say like an Ipod or Iriver, put your music on that and connect that to your mixer. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 5:08 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and Encoding High all list members, Saving all of your music to a USB hard drive is all well and good. But if you have a paying job on the week ends as a DJ, how do you run that music through your mixer if you don't burn some of it to CD? I haven't seen one of these out there, but perhaps there is a digital mixer that lets you plug these hard drives in to it via USB ports? John. Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 1:07 PM Subject: RE: Ripping,Copying and Encoding Even though I've just ripped most of my collection I find my new found ability to access everything liberating. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 6:30 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and Encoding Ah, but you see, I prefer to play all my music, using Winamp, directly from the AAC files on my external drive, and keep my CDs stored for archival backup. That way, I don't have to go fumbling through hundreds of CDs to find a particular track. Until recently, I think, Winamp wouldn't play from DVDs. And, even now, fumbling through a couple of hundred DVDs isn't much more convenient than fumbling through several hundred CDs. Blessed Be, Dana that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized pronunciation dictionary that Dana=dayna. D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: dsleslie Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 9:04 AM Subject: RE: Ripping,Copying and Encoding That's a consideration of course, that's why I've put all my Cue/FLAC files on to DVD-RW'S, that way I can compress to whatever format I like and if I ever want to change them I just put the DVD'S into the drive and repeat the compression process for another format. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 12:56 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and Encoding If I had the space, I would rip everything to FLAC. But, If I did so I couldn't fit all my hundreds of CDs onto my two 300 gig external drives. With AAC+, I can. The use of ANY lossy format involves a trade-off between quality and space. To my mind, AAC+ at 192kbps is the best trade-off I've found. Blessed Be, Dana that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized pronunciation dictionary that Dana=dayna. D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: dsleslie Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 11:40 AM Subject: RE: Ripping,Copying and Encoding Now, that makes sense to me. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 5:39 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Ripping,Copying and Encoding Ok, well here's a perfect example
Re: Ripping, Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
Well, you've maybe interpreted a bit dodgy for falling to bits. What I'm getting at is that a CD transport spins a disc at a very high speed and a CD-ROM isn't usually built for a computer in the same way as it is for a standard CD player. Typically, the disc is not held as securely and so the movement of the disc, as slight as it may be, will cause jitter errors due to laser tracking problems. Also, I think you're well acquainted with offset issues and you must also know that some CD-ROM's suffer with non standard offsets more than others. I can't blame you wanting to get the best rips out of your CD's and it's your choice to use EAC but I wouldn't rubbish other rippers as the underlying software and interaction with the CD-ROM and operating system are all pretty similar. So, if your CD-ROM is not as good as it could be then EAC is for you otherwise it's more for the paranoid ripper. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 10:05 AM Subject: RE: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Well I don't know what you're getting at quite frankly, I've heard some things in my time but I've never heard that before smile Faulty CD drives won't work with any CD ripper wither it be EAC, Windows Media Player or whatever. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 8:31 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Your situation would be that you have a bit of a dodgy CD-ROM drive if you need to use EAC. If you have a good quality drive you don't need to go to those extremes. You should always use error correction of course which will slow down your media player rips but you will get perfect results with a good quality CD-ROM and CD's in fair to good condition. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:17 AM Subject: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Media Player etc are probably fine for most people but in my situation where perfect rips and perfect copies are a must have then Media Player and others are just out of the race. As I said before, those people who are sticking with Easy CD DA Extractor (that includes Yorus Truly) are on a pretty good thind I reckon but still, Exact Audio Copy and Max Ripper are the only things I've tested which do perfect rips and perfect copies of audio CD'S. Compression? Well Danna sort of had it right and I reckon her ears are functioning smile, AAC+ is a damn good standard, its regretable that (unfortunately) EAC doesn't (as far as I know) support AAC+ internally so you have to run an external encoder, either that or do your rips with EAC (as Wave files) and convert them with something like Easy CD DA extractor which will let you do thousands of files in a batch as everyone knows, that almost defeats the purpose but still the rips are more accurate. EAC is (if set up correctly) considerably slower than Windows Media Player, taking say 7-10 minutes to rip a CD however this speed reduction is due to the comparison ripping the programme does, reading and re-reading each sector and comparing the values, I was also interested to read that Exact Audio Copy will handle copy-protected audio CD'S, not that you see too many of those round these days I don't think. Now for those who will sware by MP3 till their dying day well I admire your courage and (whilst I admit that MP3 is getting a bit long in the tooth now) you can get some very nice quality out of LAME if you tweek it, that means not using the defaults offered to you by your ripper. If you're using Winamp to play your MP3 files then it pays to use the MAD MP3 output plug-in, you'll hear the difference and MAD is not the only great MP3 decoder for Winamp either. VLC'S decoder seems to be rather nice. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of albert griffith Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2007 8:19 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Exact audio copy was developed by a good programmer who really likes his tracks to be ripped neatly. It's a good program but I like the media player as well if I'm ripping to a format they support. Example: I've ripped 500 disks in the last two weeks with it and it's been a breeze. I just push in the disk drawer and away it goes and ejects the disk when the ripping is complete. EAC. has this drive off-set stuff and while it makes files look better on paper, I can't hear a difference. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ripping, Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
Yep, that'll be him... Spent so much time worrying about his waveform that he forgot about sitting back and enjoying listening to his music... Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dana S. Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 12:40 PM Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 7:18 AM Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things So, if your CD-ROM is not as good as it could be then EAC is for you otherwise it's more for the paranoid ripper. The paranoid ripper? Are you referring to Jack, the paranoid ripper? grin Blessed Be, Dana that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized pronunciation dictionary that Dana=dayna. D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: dsleslie Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Ripping, Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
Ok, actually I don't have a problem with your message apart from the fact that I don't rubbish other CD Rippers, I have said that other CD Rippers aren't as good as they could be, just as other cars, boats, planes etc aren't as good as they could be, simple fact. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 11:18 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Well, you've maybe interpreted a bit dodgy for falling to bits. What I'm getting at is that a CD transport spins a disc at a very high speed and a CD-ROM isn't usually built for a computer in the same way as it is for a standard CD player. Typically, the disc is not held as securely and so the movement of the disc, as slight as it may be, will cause jitter errors due to laser tracking problems. Also, I think you're well acquainted with offset issues and you must also know that some CD-ROM's suffer with non standard offsets more than others. I can't blame you wanting to get the best rips out of your CD's and it's your choice to use EAC but I wouldn't rubbish other rippers as the underlying software and interaction with the CD-ROM and operating system are all pretty similar. So, if your CD-ROM is not as good as it could be then EAC is for you otherwise it's more for the paranoid ripper. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 10:05 AM Subject: RE: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Well I don't know what you're getting at quite frankly, I've heard some things in my time but I've never heard that before smile Faulty CD drives won't work with any CD ripper wither it be EAC, Windows Media Player or whatever. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 8:31 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Your situation would be that you have a bit of a dodgy CD-ROM drive if you need to use EAC. If you have a good quality drive you don't need to go to those extremes. You should always use error correction of course which will slow down your media player rips but you will get perfect results with a good quality CD-ROM and CD's in fair to good condition. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:17 AM Subject: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Media Player etc are probably fine for most people but in my situation where perfect rips and perfect copies are a must have then Media Player and others are just out of the race. As I said before, those people who are sticking with Easy CD DA Extractor (that includes Yorus Truly) are on a pretty good thind I reckon but still, Exact Audio Copy and Max Ripper are the only things I've tested which do perfect rips and perfect copies of audio CD'S. Compression? Well Danna sort of had it right and I reckon her ears are functioning smile, AAC+ is a damn good standard, its regretable that (unfortunately) EAC doesn't (as far as I know) support AAC+ internally so you have to run an external encoder, either that or do your rips with EAC (as Wave files) and convert them with something like Easy CD DA extractor which will let you do thousands of files in a batch as everyone knows, that almost defeats the purpose but still the rips are more accurate. EAC is (if set up correctly) considerably slower than Windows Media Player, taking say 7-10 minutes to rip a CD however this speed reduction is due to the comparison ripping the programme does, reading and re-reading each sector and comparing the values, I was also interested to read that Exact Audio Copy will handle copy-protected audio CD'S, not that you see too many of those round these days I don't think. Now for those who will sware by MP3 till their dying day well I admire your courage and (whilst I admit that MP3 is getting a bit long in the tooth now) you can get some very nice quality out of LAME if you tweek it, that means not using the defaults offered to you by your ripper. If you're using Winamp to play your MP3 files then it pays to use the MAD MP3 output plug-in, you'll hear the difference and MAD is not the only great MP3 decoder for Winamp either. VLC'S decoder seems to be rather nice. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of albert griffith Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2007 8:19 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Exact audio copy was
Realplayer 11
I just went to Real.com to download the free version of realplayer 11. The only download link I could find on the front page present you with run and cancel buttons only. Does anyone know how to download and save an installation file of the free 11.0? Thank you. Blessed Be, Dana that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized pronunciation dictionary that Dana=dayna. D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: dsleslie Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stereo Translater Question
How about rerecording them via total recorder then you could save them in stereo, somewhat. ** My drinking team has a bowling problem. robert Doc Wright http://www.wrightplaceinc.net msn [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 7:58 AM Subject: Re: Stereo Translater Question High Dock, These old TV shows are on the net as .ave files. So how can I rip them unless I burn them to VCD first? John. - Original Message - From: Doc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 6:12 AM Subject: Re: Stereo Translater Question Only thing I can suggest is to rip them as a wave, open in gold wave or sound forge and resave as a stereo wave file. Then you could reedit and enhance the stereo field. It won't get true stereo which isn't really possible starting out with a mono file but you can simulate. ** My drinking team has a bowling problem. robert Doc Wright http://www.wrightplaceinc.net msn [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:18 PM Subject: Stereo Translater Question Hello list members, I'm checking out some old TV shows on the net. They're in the .ave format if I'm spelling that right. As far as the audio goes, they all are in mono. Is there a peace of stereo translater software out there that any of you know of? Thanks in advance. John. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.4/1146 - Release Date: 11/22/2007 6:55 PM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.4/1145 - Release Date: 11/22/2007 11:49 AM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.4/1146 - Release Date: 11/22/2007 6:55 PM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stereo Translater Question
High Dock, I don't have that program. I'd get it, but they won't let you place an order for it over the phone. You have to protect your credit card info if you know what I mean. John. - Original Message - From: Doc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 4:56 PM Subject: Re: Stereo Translater Question How about rerecording them via total recorder then you could save them in stereo, somewhat. ** My drinking team has a bowling problem. robert Doc Wright http://www.wrightplaceinc.net msn [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 7:58 AM Subject: Re: Stereo Translater Question High Dock, These old TV shows are on the net as .ave files. So how can I rip them unless I burn them to VCD first? John. - Original Message - From: Doc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 6:12 AM Subject: Re: Stereo Translater Question Only thing I can suggest is to rip them as a wave, open in gold wave or sound forge and resave as a stereo wave file. Then you could reedit and enhance the stereo field. It won't get true stereo which isn't really possible starting out with a mono file but you can simulate. ** My drinking team has a bowling problem. robert Doc Wright http://www.wrightplaceinc.net msn [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:18 PM Subject: Stereo Translater Question Hello list members, I'm checking out some old TV shows on the net. They're in the .ave format if I'm spelling that right. As far as the audio goes, they all are in mono. Is there a peace of stereo translater software out there that any of you know of? Thanks in advance. John. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.4/1146 - Release Date: 11/22/2007 6:55 PM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.4/1145 - Release Date: 11/22/2007 11:49 AM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.4/1146 - Release Date: 11/22/2007 6:55 PM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.4/1147 - Release Date: 11/23/2007 9:19 AM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
