Re: Talks question
I would watch out for the cheap talks or msp -- it is quite possible that you can never upgrade the product, or in the case of msp, transfer your license for free like you can with the normal version. Just check and know what you are getting into. Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working version? What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for the Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version. Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows Mobile and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the Symbian and now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be careful when talking about Talks that they're clear to specify the Symbian versus Windows Mobile version. I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with anything selling Talks for $99. ATT sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I think that's the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a bit more. I suspect the price is more the result of a deal made between Nuance and Verizon or ATT and code Factory than it is the fact that a stripped down version of the screen reader is being sold. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Talks question Hi Lauren, I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work for most functions, but it is not the full working version. That is probably why they get away with selling it for the price they do. Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones, but it does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have. You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on the Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract. If you can afford it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can purchase Mobile Speaks. I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the software to other Smart phones in the future should you decide at some point to get another phone. Of course, you can only run the software on 1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple. Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to purchase, which allows you some time to acquire the funds. The company that I purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase plan. They do charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little easier if you can't get the money at once. You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone. You do however, need to have good cell service in the area in which you live. You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is not difficult to read texts or E-mails. I wouldn't use a phone as my main source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need it. Any other questions are welcomed. Sincerely, Tim Martin -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Talks question Hi Tim, Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I choose it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing menus, email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would really be great for me! The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do everything and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I mad the mistake of buying a Blackbury Tour with Vlingo, but am discovering it won't let me access what I need. Verizon will let me trade to another phone without any penalty because of my disability. Please advise and thanks to Gary also for his very helpful link. Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: Martin, Tim A., NMDOT tim.mar...@state.nm.us To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:38 AM Subject: RE: Talks question Good morning List, Here is the promised information. A few months ago I started hearing talk of a Smart Phone that was fully accessible to blind people. This phone was from Verizon and contained the Talks program. The phone was a Motorola Q-9C and with the speech program cost $249 with a 2 year contract. According to Verizon, the Moto phone was the only one they offered that would do this. Of course I was eager to have a phone that would allow me complete access to all it had to offer. I was currently using the Env 2 and I could read and compose text messages, but as far as simple things like setting an alarm or
Re: Talks question
Hi Gary, Thanks for the info; I think I will purchase the Mobile Speaks because according to Humanware, the Orator will cost $450 and to pay that just for a Blackbury device, and not one that will work with other phones, is too prohibitive for me. I couldn't believe the cost; they must think all blind people are rich! Thank you for your and others' invaluable advice. Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:32 PM Subject: Re: Talks question Lauren, From reading through the text version of the manual that Verizon posted online, it seems to be a fully functional version of Talks for Windows Mobile, and it would probably do everything you want, including text messaging, email and Internet. However, if you look at the answer to question 3 on the Answers page that I sent the link for, you will hear the word nontransferable in the answer about the cost. This makes me think that the $99 price is just for a Talks license for this phone and cannot be transferred to another phone later. Mobile Speaks has a higher initial cost, but it can be transferred to a new phone when a better one comes along. If you have the Blackberry Tour 9630, you can wait for Orator for Blackberry to be released by Humanware. They say it will be released soon, but they don't say when, and they don't give a price. They say it will support all of the core Blackberry applications. This is the only Blackberry model they mention specifically in the information on their web site. Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: Lauren lotusris...@att.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:34 AM Subject: Re: Talks question Hi Tim, Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I choose it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing menus, email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would really be great for me! The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do everything and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I mad the mistake of buying a Blackbury Tour with Vlingo, but am discovering it won't let me access what I need. Verizon will let me trade to another phone without any penalty because of my disability. Please advise and thanks to Gary also for his very helpful link. Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: Martin, Tim A., NMDOT tim.mar...@state.nm.us To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:38 AM Subject: RE: Talks question Good morning List, Here is the promised information. A few months ago I started hearing talk of a Smart Phone that was fully accessible to blind people. This phone was from Verizon and contained the Talks program. The phone was a Motorola Q-9C and with the speech program cost $249 with a 2 year contract. According to Verizon, the Moto phone was the only one they offered that would do this. Of course I was eager to have a phone that would allow me complete access to all it had to offer. I was currently using the Env 2 and I could read and compose text messages, but as far as simple things like setting an alarm or leaving myself a note, and many other things, it just wouldn't happen. I purchased the phone and found it to work fairly well, but it had a few issues. It came with Pocket Word that wasn't accessible with the Talks program. This left me a bit frustrated because I wanted full use of all the features of this phone, and so I began to inquire of other types of phones and different speech programs. Through my searching, I discovered that the Talks program Verizon sells and on the Moto phone was not the fully functioning version of the program. I was able to return the Moto Q to Verizon for a full refund after hearing of a program called: Mobile Speaks. This program can be used on Smart Phones running Windows Mobile along with Pocket PC's. It works with several different service providers and costs about $300.00. I was able to purchase the Moto Q-9C from an individual and used the Mobile Speaks program for a 30-day trial to make sure I liked all it had to offer. This program works great, and I'm able to use features on a different new phone I've purchased which is called the Ozone from Verizon. I kept the Moto to use as a spare, but I wanted a brand-new phone. Since all of this, I found out that the Talks program, like Mobile Speaks is a fully functioning program, but doesn't work with as many smart phones and with as many carriers. I might also point out that when you purchase a Smart Phone from Verizon that has come out after November of last year, that you must have a Data package with your current plan. A Data package gives you access to the Internet
Talks vs Mobile Speaks
Hi, Thanks to everyone for their advice re: my Verizon dilemma and now it seems between talks and Mobile Speaks. If I purchase my Verizon phone without accessibility preinstalled (Talks), and buy Talks myself, would that give me full functionality or do I still have to go and buy mobile Speaks? Sincerely, Lauren To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Talks question
If you like Verizon and the Ozone, you can buy the Ozone and put Mobilespeak on it and it will be fully accessible. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 4:52 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Talks question I also called numerous time to Verizon and it seems the Talks for the Ozone only allows you to do email, texting and navigating through menus, but not the Internet. At least, they say the Internet is not mentioned, like Gary said, and so we are all assuming that you cannot surf with the Talks version for the Verizon phone. If ATTO allowed me to get reception where I am, I would opt for the Iphone, which apparently is fully accessible, but alas, Verizon enables me to get reception. Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:52 PM Subject: RE: Talks question Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working version? What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for the Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version. Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows Mobile and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the Symbian and now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be careful when talking about Talks that they're clear to specify the Symbian versus Windows Mobile version. I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with anything selling Talks for $99. ATT sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I think that's the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a bit more. I suspect the price is more the result of a deal made between Nuance and Verizon or ATT and code Factory than it is the fact that a stripped down version of the screen reader is being sold. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Talks question Hi Lauren, I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work for most functions, but it is not the full working version. That is probably why they get away with selling it for the price they do. Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones, but it does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have. You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on the Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract. If you can afford it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can purchase Mobile Speaks. I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the software to other Smart phones in the future should you decide at some point to get another phone. Of course, you can only run the software on 1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple. Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to purchase, which allows you some time to acquire the funds. The company that I purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase plan. They do charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little easier if you can't get the money at once. You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone. You do however, need to have good cell service in the area in which you live. You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is not difficult to read texts or E-mails. I wouldn't use a phone as my main source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need it. Any other questions are welcomed. Sincerely, Tim Martin -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Talks question Hi Tim, Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I choose it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing menus, email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would really be great for me! The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do everything and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I mad the mistake of buying a Blackbury Tour with Vlingo, but am discovering it won't let me access what I need. Verizon will let me trade to another phone without any penalty because of my disability. Please advise and thanks to Gary also for his very helpful link. Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: Martin, Tim A., NMDOT tim.mar...@state.nm.us To: PC Audio Discussion List
Re: Talks question
Hay, on the topic of Talks and mobile speak, does anyone know if the Talks program will ever work with the e71 calendar? Naomi - Original Message - From: cov...@ccs.covici.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 6:35 PM Subject: Re: Talks question I would watch out for the cheap talks or msp -- it is quite possible that you can never upgrade the product, or in the case of msp, transfer your license for free like you can with the normal version. Just check and know what you are getting into. Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working version? What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for the Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version. Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows Mobile and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the Symbian and now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be careful when talking about Talks that they're clear to specify the Symbian versus Windows Mobile version. I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with anything selling Talks for $99. ATT sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I think that's the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a bit more. I suspect the price is more the result of a deal made between Nuance and Verizon or ATT and code Factory than it is the fact that a stripped down version of the screen reader is being sold. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Talks question Hi Lauren, I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work for most functions, but it is not the full working version. That is probably why they get away with selling it for the price they do. Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones, but it does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have. You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on the Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract. If you can afford it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can purchase Mobile Speaks. I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the software to other Smart phones in the future should you decide at some point to get another phone. Of course, you can only run the software on 1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple. Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to purchase, which allows you some time to acquire the funds. The company that I purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase plan. They do charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little easier if you can't get the money at once. You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone. You do however, need to have good cell service in the area in which you live. You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is not difficult to read texts or E-mails. I wouldn't use a phone as my main source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need it. Any other questions are welcomed. Sincerely, Tim Martin -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Talks question Hi Tim, Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I choose it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing menus, email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would really be great for me! The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do everything and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I mad the mistake of buying a Blackbury Tour with Vlingo, but am discovering it won't let me access what I need. Verizon will let me trade to another phone without any penalty because of my disability. Please advise and thanks to Gary also for his very helpful link. Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: Martin, Tim A., NMDOT tim.mar...@state.nm.us To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:38 AM Subject: RE: Talks question Good morning List, Here is the promised information. A few months ago I started hearing talk of a Smart Phone that was fully accessible to blind people. This phone was from Verizon and contained the Talks program. The phone was a Motorola Q-9C and with the speech program cost $249 with a 2 year contract. According to Verizon, the Moto phone was the only one they offered that would do this. Of course I
Re: Talks question
Hehhehhehhe! Hopefully in the next release! - Original Message - From: naomi nbol...@optusnet.com.au To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:02 AM Subject: Re: Talks question Hay, on the topic of Talks and mobile speak, does anyone know if the Talks program will ever work with the e71 calendar? Naomi - Original Message - From: cov...@ccs.covici.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 6:35 PM Subject: Re: Talks question I would watch out for the cheap talks or msp -- it is quite possible that you can never upgrade the product, or in the case of msp, transfer your license for free like you can with the normal version. Just check and know what you are getting into. Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working version? What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for the Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version. Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows Mobile and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the Symbian and now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be careful when talking about Talks that they're clear to specify the Symbian versus Windows Mobile version. I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with anything selling Talks for $99. ATT sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I think that's the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a bit more. I suspect the price is more the result of a deal made between Nuance and Verizon or ATT and code Factory than it is the fact that a stripped down version of the screen reader is being sold. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Talks question Hi Lauren, I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work for most functions, but it is not the full working version. That is probably why they get away with selling it for the price they do. Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones, but it does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have. You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on the Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract. If you can afford it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can purchase Mobile Speaks. I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the software to other Smart phones in the future should you decide at some point to get another phone. Of course, you can only run the software on 1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple. Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to purchase, which allows you some time to acquire the funds. The company that I purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase plan. They do charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little easier if you can't get the money at once. You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone. You do however, need to have good cell service in the area in which you live. You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is not difficult to read texts or E-mails. I wouldn't use a phone as my main source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need it. Any other questions are welcomed. Sincerely, Tim Martin -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Talks question Hi Tim, Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I choose it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing menus, email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would really be great for me! The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do everything and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I mad the mistake of buying a Blackbury Tour with Vlingo, but am discovering it won't let me access what I need. Verizon will let me trade to another phone without any penalty because of my disability. Please advise and thanks to Gary also for his very helpful link. Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: Martin, Tim A., NMDOT tim.mar...@state.nm.us To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:38 AM Subject: RE: Talks question Good morning List, Here is the promised information. A few months ago I started hearing talk of a Smart Phone that was
Re: Talks question
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Re: Latest DeltaPanel Software problems.
Jim and others, this news is depressing and doesn't surprise me; it was only a matter of time before M-Audio got around to crappifying the interface for the Delta series. I have an M-Audio Solo USB Soundcard and I can see how accessability will have been truly screwed up for us as this interface is next to useless for screen reader users. Looks very pretty oh yes! I've yet to see the rest of this thread but you do wonder if these companies couldn't make the software available to a third party to create an accessible version which the aesthetically conscious could avoid using. We have no choice but to be locked out of the interface. Shall carry on reading this thread as maybe someone's come up with alternative soundcards with accessible interfaces. Ray Jim NOseworthy wrote: Judy: You can download the drivers from my server at: ftp.compuconference.com/Delta_Panel_V32_5.10.00.5065.exe Hope this helps. - Original Message - From: Judy W ju...@austin.rr.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:12 PM Subject: RE: Latest DeltaPanel Software problems. Can someone tell me where to get the older drivers? Judy -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Jim NOseworthy Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:09 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Latest DeltaPanel Software problems. Yo Folks: For those who are using the DeltaPanel software: do not install the latest version of that software. It is totally inaccessible thus rendering your ability to configure your soundcard as non-existent. Cheers. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Talks question
Is the Ozone a SmartPhone or a Windows Mobile phone? By that I mean which Mobile Speak screen reader works with it? Also, am I correct that the Ozone does not have a standard keypad at all but only a qwerty keyboard? Thanks. - Original Message - From: Frank Ventura frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:55 AM Subject: RE: Talks question If you like Verizon and the Ozone, you can buy the Ozone and put Mobilespeak on it and it will be fully accessible. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 4:52 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Talks question I also called numerous time to Verizon and it seems the Talks for the Ozone only allows you to do email, texting and navigating through menus, but not the Internet. At least, they say the Internet is not mentioned, like Gary said, and so we are all assuming that you cannot surf with the Talks version for the Verizon phone. If ATTO allowed me to get reception where I am, I would opt for the Iphone, which apparently is fully accessible, but alas, Verizon enables me to get reception. Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:52 PM Subject: RE: Talks question Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working version? What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for the Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version. Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows Mobile and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the Symbian and now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be careful when talking about Talks that they're clear to specify the Symbian versus Windows Mobile version. I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with anything selling Talks for $99. ATT sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I think that's the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a bit more. I suspect the price is more the result of a deal made between Nuance and Verizon or ATT and code Factory than it is the fact that a stripped down version of the screen reader is being sold. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Talks question Hi Lauren, I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work for most functions, but it is not the full working version. That is probably why they get away with selling it for the price they do. Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones, but it does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have. You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on the Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract. If you can afford it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can purchase Mobile Speaks. I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the software to other Smart phones in the future should you decide at some point to get another phone. Of course, you can only run the software on 1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple. Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to purchase, which allows you some time to acquire the funds. The company that I purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase plan. They do charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little easier if you can't get the money at once. You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone. You do however, need to have good cell service in the area in which you live. You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is not difficult to read texts or E-mails. I wouldn't use a phone as my main source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need it. Any other questions are welcomed. Sincerely, Tim Martin -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Talks question Hi Tim, Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I choose it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing menus, email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would really be great for me! The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do everything and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I mad the mistake of
Re: Talks question
Heh. That's nothing. In Canada talks (sim version) is like 520 bucks, whereas its about 395 for people in the US. I'm fairly mad about that, actually. contact details: email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca and others msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio - Original Message - From: Lauren lotusris...@att.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:48 AM Subject: Re: Talks question Hi Gary, Thanks for the info; I think I will purchase the Mobile Speaks because according to Humanware, the Orator will cost $450 and to pay that just for a Blackbury device, and not one that will work with other phones, is too prohibitive for me. I couldn't believe the cost; they must think all blind people are rich! Thank you for your and others' invaluable advice. Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:32 PM Subject: Re: Talks question Lauren, From reading through the text version of the manual that Verizon posted online, it seems to be a fully functional version of Talks for Windows Mobile, and it would probably do everything you want, including text messaging, email and Internet. However, if you look at the answer to question 3 on the Answers page that I sent the link for, you will hear the word nontransferable in the answer about the cost. This makes me think that the $99 price is just for a Talks license for this phone and cannot be transferred to another phone later. Mobile Speaks has a higher initial cost, but it can be transferred to a new phone when a better one comes along. If you have the Blackberry Tour 9630, you can wait for Orator for Blackberry to be released by Humanware. They say it will be released soon, but they don't say when, and they don't give a price. They say it will support all of the core Blackberry applications. This is the only Blackberry model they mention specifically in the information on their web site. Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: Lauren lotusris...@att.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:34 AM Subject: Re: Talks question Hi Tim, Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I choose it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing menus, email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would really be great for me! The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do everything and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I mad the mistake of buying a Blackbury Tour with Vlingo, but am discovering it won't let me access what I need. Verizon will let me trade to another phone without any penalty because of my disability. Please advise and thanks to Gary also for his very helpful link. Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: Martin, Tim A., NMDOT tim.mar...@state.nm.us To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:38 AM Subject: RE: Talks question Good morning List, Here is the promised information. A few months ago I started hearing talk of a Smart Phone that was fully accessible to blind people. This phone was from Verizon and contained the Talks program. The phone was a Motorola Q-9C and with the speech program cost $249 with a 2 year contract. According to Verizon, the Moto phone was the only one they offered that would do this. Of course I was eager to have a phone that would allow me complete access to all it had to offer. I was currently using the Env 2 and I could read and compose text messages, but as far as simple things like setting an alarm or leaving myself a note, and many other things, it just wouldn't happen. I purchased the phone and found it to work fairly well, but it had a few issues. It came with Pocket Word that wasn't accessible with the Talks program. This left me a bit frustrated because I wanted full use of all the features of this phone, and so I began to inquire of other types of phones and different speech programs. Through my searching, I discovered that the Talks program Verizon sells and on the Moto phone was not the fully functioning version of the program. I was able to return the Moto Q to Verizon for a full refund after hearing of a program called: Mobile Speaks. This program can be used on Smart Phones running Windows Mobile along with Pocket PC's. It works with several different service providers and costs about $300.00. I was able to purchase the Moto Q-9C from an individual and used the Mobile Speaks program for a 30-day trial to make sure I
RE: Talks question
Hi there, It is a Windows Mobile phone. Yes it has a querty keyboard and the buttons are a bit small. This might present a small problem for folks with bigger fingers, but one can get use to it. Hope this helps. Tim -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Jamie Pauls Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 7:13 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Talks question Is the Ozone a SmartPhone or a Windows Mobile phone? By that I mean which Mobile Speak screen reader works with it? Also, am I correct that the Ozone does not have a standard keypad at all but only a qwerty keyboard? Thanks. - Original Message - From: Frank Ventura frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:55 AM Subject: RE: Talks question If you like Verizon and the Ozone, you can buy the Ozone and put Mobilespeak on it and it will be fully accessible. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 4:52 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Talks question I also called numerous time to Verizon and it seems the Talks for the Ozone only allows you to do email, texting and navigating through menus, but not the Internet. At least, they say the Internet is not mentioned, like Gary said, and so we are all assuming that you cannot surf with the Talks version for the Verizon phone. If ATTO allowed me to get reception where I am, I would opt for the Iphone, which apparently is fully accessible, but alas, Verizon enables me to get reception. Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:52 PM Subject: RE: Talks question Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working version? What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for the Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version. Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows Mobile and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the Symbian and now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be careful when talking about Talks that they're clear to specify the Symbian versus Windows Mobile version. I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with anything selling Talks for $99. ATT sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I think that's the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a bit more. I suspect the price is more the result of a deal made between Nuance and Verizon or ATT and code Factory than it is the fact that a stripped down version of the screen reader is being sold. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Talks question Hi Lauren, I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work for most functions, but it is not the full working version. That is probably why they get away with selling it for the price they do. Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones, but it does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have. You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on the Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract. If you can afford it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can purchase Mobile Speaks. I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the software to other Smart phones in the future should you decide at some point to get another phone. Of course, you can only run the software on 1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple. Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to purchase, which allows you some time to acquire the funds. The company that I purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase plan. They do charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little easier if you can't get the money at once. You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone. You do however, need to have good cell service in the area in which you live. You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is not difficult to read texts or E-mails. I wouldn't use a phone as my main source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need it. Any other questions are welcomed. Sincerely, Tim Martin -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM
RE: Talks question
Hi Chris, You may have a point here. I guess the reason I thought this was that Talks seemed, when I compared the functions to Mobile Speaks, to be very sluggish. Also there didn't seem to be the same application access. I used Talks 2 different times for about 15 days each. And again it may be how each software package was written, and the platform they are written for. I have found out recently that ATT is selling Mobile Speaks for the $89.00 that you mentioned. I would be very curious to find out if it is the fully functioning MSS and whether the license can be transferred to other devices. Have a good day. Tim -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 6:52 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Talks question Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working version? What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for the Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version. Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows Mobile and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the Symbian and now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be careful when talking about Talks that they're clear to specify the Symbian versus Windows Mobile version. I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with anything selling Talks for $99. ATT sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I think that's the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a bit more. I suspect the price is more the result of a deal made between Nuance and Verizon or ATT and code Factory than it is the fact that a stripped down version of the screen reader is being sold. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Talks question Hi Lauren, I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work for most functions, but it is not the full working version. That is probably why they get away with selling it for the price they do. Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones, but it does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have. You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on the Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract. If you can afford it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can purchase Mobile Speaks. I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the software to other Smart phones in the future should you decide at some point to get another phone. Of course, you can only run the software on 1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple. Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to purchase, which allows you some time to acquire the funds. The company that I purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase plan. They do charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little easier if you can't get the money at once. You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone. You do however, need to have good cell service in the area in which you live. You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is not difficult to read texts or E-mails. I wouldn't use a phone as my main source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need it. Any other questions are welcomed. Sincerely, Tim Martin -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Talks question Hi Tim, Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I choose it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing menus, email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would really be great for me! The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do everything and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I mad the mistake of buying a Blackbury Tour with Vlingo, but am discovering it won't let me access what I need. Verizon will let me trade to another phone without any penalty because of my disability. Please advise and thanks to Gary also for his very helpful link. Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: Martin, Tim A., NMDOT tim.mar...@state.nm.us To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:38 AM Subject: RE: Talks question Good morning List, Here is the promised information. A few months ago I started hearing talk of a Smart Phone that was fully accessible to blind people. This phone was from Verizon
Roxio Creator 2010 (Has anything changed accessabilityWise?)
Hello! For years, I used Roxio Easy CDDVD Creator and found it totally accessible; however, when I migrated to Easy Media Creator, I found the product almost totally unaccessible; and now they email me about Roxio Creator 2010 Pro. If anyone has used this product or know anything about it, do let me know. Should I purchase this product or not. I did purchase RecordNow, which was previously accessible enough for my use, and Easy CDDVD Copy, which I have never used but got it so my wife could put some of her Kodak film onto usable everyday DVD/CD players. Thanks for your help and info. James Robinson To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Latest DeltaPanel Software problems.
Hi all Delta soundcard users: Another problem that you may have is that, if you install ServicePack 3for XP, it will not allow you to install an earlier version of the DeltaPanel software than the latest one. Can anyone else varify whether this is or is not the case? It certainly is on my box. Thanks all over the place gang. - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 8:36 AM Subject: Re: Latest DeltaPanel Software problems. Jim and others, this news is depressing and doesn't surprise me; it was only a matter of time before M-Audio got around to crappifying the interface for the Delta series. I have an M-Audio Solo USB Soundcard and I can see how accessability will have been truly screwed up for us as this interface is next to useless for screen reader users. Looks very pretty oh yes! I've yet to see the rest of this thread but you do wonder if these companies couldn't make the software available to a third party to create an accessible version which the aesthetically conscious could avoid using. We have no choice but to be locked out of the interface. Shall carry on reading this thread as maybe someone's come up with alternative soundcards with accessible interfaces. Ray Jim NOseworthy wrote: Judy: You can download the drivers from my server at: ftp.compuconference.com/Delta_Panel_V32_5.10.00.5065.exe Hope this helps. - Original Message - From: Judy W ju...@austin.rr.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:12 PM Subject: RE: Latest DeltaPanel Software problems. Can someone tell me where to get the older drivers? Judy -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Jim NOseworthy Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:09 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Latest DeltaPanel Software problems. Yo Folks: For those who are using the DeltaPanel software: do not install the latest version of that software. It is totally inaccessible thus rendering your ability to configure your soundcard as non-existent. Cheers. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Roxio Creator 2010 (Has anything changed accessabilityWise?)
When using Roxio starting with version 7, you have to use the jaws curser to bring up the different menus. inside these are more menus to click on, but once you do this, it gets easier to work with because of the list trees that come up when clicking on the right graphic. you should be able to have your wife help label them or use the trial and error method to figure out what the graphics do. there will be the source and destination views. you will need the jaws cursor to get to the correct view. then you can route the PC cursor to the respective view you want. you will be able to add or delete tracks you want to burn and so on. you can adjust the write speed and destination drive as long as you are patient and careful. you had better try a trial version to see if you are comfortable with the program before plunking down any money. I find that Nero is easier these days to work with. you may even consider Premier Cd burner which is supposed to be made for blind people. - Original Message - From: JardataMailServices jardatalearningcen...@jardata.biz To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:11 AM Subject: Roxio Creator 2010 (Has anything changed accessabilityWise?) Hello! For years, I used Roxio Easy CDDVD Creator and found it totally accessible; however, when I migrated to Easy Media Creator, I found the product almost totally unaccessible; and now they email me about Roxio Creator 2010 Pro. If anyone has used this product or know anything about it, do let me know. Should I purchase this product or not. I did purchase RecordNow, which was previously accessible enough for my use, and Easy CDDVD Copy, which I have never used but got it so my wife could put some of her Kodak film onto usable everyday DVD/CD players. Thanks for your help and info. James Robinson To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Installing Recordnow
Hello List! I purchased Recordnow recently and, when I started installing it, I got a question as to which conflicting program I wanted to uninstall in order to have Recordnow work properly. The program suggested that I uninstall something that sounded like Microsoft Dotnet Framework. What is this and would uninstalling that windows program cause problems with other programs, such as Nero or others? I see that, if I take the customize installation choice, I get a choice of uninstalling something with dotnet in it. Could Recordnow be conflicting with Nero or something or wanting me to only run Recordnow like programs did in the past? Just tell me how to install recordnow on my XP and Vista machines as easy as possible if possible. James RobinsonimRo To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Talks question
Thats really funny since talks out performs Moble speak on my E71 and N95. Before you start it, I know they are two different platforms and i suspect that my two units have a lot more horse power then that ozone unit. - Original Message - From: Martin, Tim A., NMDOT tim.mar...@state.nm.us To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:09 AM Subject: RE: Talks question Hi Chris, You may have a point here. I guess the reason I thought this was that Talks seemed, when I compared the functions to Mobile Speaks, to be very sluggish. Also there didn't seem to be the same application access. I used Talks 2 different times for about 15 days each. And again it may be how each software package was written, and the platform they are written for. I have found out recently that ATT is selling Mobile Speaks for the $89.00 that you mentioned. I would be very curious to find out if it is the fully functioning MSS and whether the license can be transferred to other devices. Have a good day. Tim -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 6:52 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Talks question Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working version? What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for the Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version. Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows Mobile and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the Symbian and now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be careful when talking about Talks that they're clear to specify the Symbian versus Windows Mobile version. I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with anything selling Talks for $99. ATT sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I think that's the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a bit more. I suspect the price is more the result of a deal made between Nuance and Verizon or ATT and code Factory than it is the fact that a stripped down version of the screen reader is being sold. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Talks question Hi Lauren, I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work for most functions, but it is not the full working version. That is probably why they get away with selling it for the price they do. Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones, but it does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have. You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on the Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract. If you can afford it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can purchase Mobile Speaks. I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the software to other Smart phones in the future should you decide at some point to get another phone. Of course, you can only run the software on 1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple. Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to purchase, which allows you some time to acquire the funds. The company that I purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase plan. They do charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little easier if you can't get the money at once. You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone. You do however, need to have good cell service in the area in which you live. You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is not difficult to read texts or E-mails. I wouldn't use a phone as my main source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need it. Any other questions are welcomed. Sincerely, Tim Martin -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Talks question Hi Tim, Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I choose it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing menus, email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would really be great for me! The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do everything and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I mad the mistake of buying a Blackbury Tour with Vlingo, but am discovering it won't let me access what I need. Verizon will let me trade to another phone without any penalty because of my disability. Please advise and thanks to Gary also for his very
RE: High quality soundcard with accessible configuration software.
I recently bought an Edirol UA1-EX. It's accessible in the sense that you can adjust the ASIO buffer size etc in Control Pannel, and many of the features are controlled with physical dip-switches on the device. It has RCA in and out, as well as 3.5 mic and headphone jacks. Jonathan -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Jim NOseworthy Sent: Friday, 28 August 2009 4:51 a.m. To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: High quality soundcard with accessible configuration software. Hi Folks: Is there such an animal out there? Thanks. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: High quality soundcard with accessible configuration software.
Jonathan: Thanks all over the place. - Original Message - From: Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 6:01 PM Subject: RE: High quality soundcard with accessible configuration software. I recently bought an Edirol UA1-EX. It's accessible in the sense that you can adjust the ASIO buffer size etc in Control Pannel, and many of the features are controlled with physical dip-switches on the device. It has RCA in and out, as well as 3.5 mic and headphone jacks. Jonathan -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Jim NOseworthy Sent: Friday, 28 August 2009 4:51 a.m. To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: High quality soundcard with accessible configuration software. Hi Folks: Is there such an animal out there? Thanks. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: High quality soundcard with accessible configuration software.
Jonathan: Any particular reason for purchasing that particular soundcard? Thanks. - Original Message - From: Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 6:01 PM Subject: RE: High quality soundcard with accessible configuration software. I recently bought an Edirol UA1-EX. It's accessible in the sense that you can adjust the ASIO buffer size etc in Control Pannel, and many of the features are controlled with physical dip-switches on the device. It has RCA in and out, as well as 3.5 mic and headphone jacks. Jonathan -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Jim NOseworthy Sent: Friday, 28 August 2009 4:51 a.m. To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: High quality soundcard with accessible configuration software. Hi Folks: Is there such an animal out there? Thanks. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Talks question
Hi Keith, I'm sure that is the case. I hope Verizon will release phones with more power then they do. I know with them it is all about money. Have a great weekend. Tim -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Keith Gillard Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:01 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Talks question Thats really funny since talks out performs Moble speak on my E71 and N95. Before you start it, I know they are two different platforms and i suspect that my two units have a lot more horse power then that ozone unit. - Original Message - From: Martin, Tim A., NMDOT tim.mar...@state.nm.us To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:09 AM Subject: RE: Talks question Hi Chris, You may have a point here. I guess the reason I thought this was that Talks seemed, when I compared the functions to Mobile Speaks, to be very sluggish. Also there didn't seem to be the same application access. I used Talks 2 different times for about 15 days each. And again it may be how each software package was written, and the platform they are written for. I have found out recently that ATT is selling Mobile Speaks for the $89.00 that you mentioned. I would be very curious to find out if it is the fully functioning MSS and whether the license can be transferred to other devices. Have a good day. Tim -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 6:52 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Talks question Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working version? What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for the Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version. Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows Mobile and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the Symbian and now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be careful when talking about Talks that they're clear to specify the Symbian versus Windows Mobile version. I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with anything selling Talks for $99. ATT sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I think that's the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a bit more. I suspect the price is more the result of a deal made between Nuance and Verizon or ATT and code Factory than it is the fact that a stripped down version of the screen reader is being sold. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Talks question Hi Lauren, I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work for most functions, but it is not the full working version. That is probably why they get away with selling it for the price they do. Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones, but it does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have. You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on the Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract. If you can afford it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can purchase Mobile Speaks. I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the software to other Smart phones in the future should you decide at some point to get another phone. Of course, you can only run the software on 1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple. Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to purchase, which allows you some time to acquire the funds. The company that I purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase plan. They do charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little easier if you can't get the money at once. You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone. You do however, need to have good cell service in the area in which you live. You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is not difficult to read texts or E-mails. I wouldn't use a phone as my main source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need it. Any other questions are welcomed. Sincerely, Tim Martin -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Talks question Hi Tim, Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I choose it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing menus, email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would
Tascam CD Burner
Hi All, This question is for anyone who uses a Tascam CD Burner. When you burn a CD from a record album or cassette, you need to mark the tracks in between songs in order to be able to go from one track to another. However, what I want to do is put a CD in the single-play slot of my CD carousel and then copy that to a blank CD using the Tascam. Now my question is this, since the CD already has the tracks marked between songs, do you still need to do that manually or will the Tascam pick that up from the master CD? Thanks much for any help you can give. I've never copied a CD this way, so I am not sure how it works. Kris To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: High quality soundcard with accessible configuration software.
Sounds encouraging,but I wonder, can you adjust everything in the panel of the UA-1EX including the faders, muting, stereo linking, etc. I hope to be moving to using four or even eight tracks eventually and wonder whether the routing options which are or (were) accessible in the Delta family would be manipulable in the newer interfaces of any of the other offerings from M-Audio. I'm not optimistic on this. Ray Jim Noseworthy wrote: Jonathan: Thanks all over the place. - Original Message - From: Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 6:01 PM Subject: RE: High quality soundcard with accessible configuration software. I recently bought an Edirol UA1-EX. It's accessible in the sense that you can adjust the ASIO buffer size etc in Control Pannel, and many of the features are controlled with physical dip-switches on the device. It has RCA in and out, as well as 3.5 mic and headphone jacks. Jonathan -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Jim NOseworthy Sent: Friday, 28 August 2009 4:51 a.m. To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: High quality soundcard with accessible configuration software. Hi Folks: Is there such an animal out there? Thanks. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: High quality soundcard with accessible configuration software.
Hi I tried to order one of these cards, and got the following: The Edirol UA1EX has actually been discontinued and is now replaced with the Edirol UA1G. I have the Just a follow up to the previous email regarding your order. The Edirol UA1EX has actually been UA1G and it works extremely well. So which ever card you get, both will serve the purpose. Scott -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Ray Sent: Saturday, 29 August 2009 9:16 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: High quality soundcard with accessible configuration software. Sounds encouraging,but I wonder, can you adjust everything in the panel of the UA-1EX including the faders, muting, stereo linking, etc. I hope to be moving to using four or even eight tracks eventually and wonder whether the routing options which are or (were) accessible in the Delta family would be manipulable in the newer interfaces of any of the other offerings from M-Audio. I'm not optimistic on this. Ray Jim Noseworthy wrote: Jonathan: Thanks all over the place. - Original Message - From: Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 6:01 PM Subject: RE: High quality soundcard with accessible configuration software. I recently bought an Edirol UA1-EX. It's accessible in the sense that you can adjust the ASIO buffer size etc in Control Pannel, and many of the features are controlled with physical dip-switches on the device. It has RCA in and out, as well as 3.5 mic and headphone jacks. Jonathan -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Jim NOseworthy Sent: Friday, 28 August 2009 4:51 a.m. To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: High quality soundcard with accessible configuration software. Hi Folks: Is there such an animal out there? Thanks. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
re talks
hi r there any companys that i can order talks from? i beleive theres more than one company from stewart ross To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Latest DeltaPanel Software problems.
Wel had my box rebuilt severl times and the driver off my delta 66 CD installed and is accessible. I will check with my guy to ask if he updated the service pack before installing the drivers. Things are always so differnt from PC to PC. Cheers. - Original Message - From: Jim Noseworthy jim.nosewor...@rogers.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:19 AM Subject: Re: Latest DeltaPanel Software problems. Hi all Delta soundcard users: Another problem that you may have is that, if you install ServicePack 3for XP, it will not allow you to install an earlier version of the DeltaPanel software than the latest one. Can anyone else varify whether this is or is not the case? It certainly is on my box. Thanks all over the place gang. - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 8:36 AM Subject: Re: Latest DeltaPanel Software problems. Jim and others, this news is depressing and doesn't surprise me; it was only a matter of time before M-Audio got around to crappifying the interface for the Delta series. I have an M-Audio Solo USB Soundcard and I can see how accessability will have been truly screwed up for us as this interface is next to useless for screen reader users. Looks very pretty oh yes! I've yet to see the rest of this thread but you do wonder if these companies couldn't make the software available to a third party to create an accessible version which the aesthetically conscious could avoid using. We have no choice but to be locked out of the interface. Shall carry on reading this thread as maybe someone's come up with alternative soundcards with accessible interfaces. Ray Jim NOseworthy wrote: Judy: You can download the drivers from my server at: ftp.compuconference.com/Delta_Panel_V32_5.10.00.5065.exe Hope this helps. - Original Message - From: Judy W ju...@austin.rr.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:12 PM Subject: RE: Latest DeltaPanel Software problems. Can someone tell me where to get the older drivers? Judy -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Jim NOseworthy Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:09 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Latest DeltaPanel Software problems. Yo Folks: For those who are using the DeltaPanel software: do not install the latest version of that software. It is totally inaccessible thus rendering your ability to configure your soundcard as non-existent. Cheers. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: re talks
You can check out the Nuance Talks dealer list at http://nuance.com/talks/dealers.asp I'm in the US, and I got mny copy of Talks from beyondsight.com. Note that this is for the Symbian version of Talks. Verizon is the only source for the Windows Mobile version of Talks as far as I know. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: stewart ross To: PC audio discussion list. Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 7:59 PM Subject: re talks hi r there any companys that i can order talks from? i beleive theres more than one company from stewart ross To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Talks question
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Re: Talks vs Mobile Speaks
You might want to double check me on this, but I don't believe you can buy Talks for the Windows Mobile platform except through Verizon and only preinstalled on specific phones. I believe that Nuance will mnake a Windows Mobile version of Talks available that you can urchase separately and install on any supported Windows Mobile phone, but this hasn't happened yet. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Lauren To: pc audio Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:55 AM Subject: Talks vs Mobile Speaks Hi, Thanks to everyone for their advice re: my Verizon dilemma and now it seems between talks and Mobile Speaks. If I purchase my Verizon phone without accessibility preinstalled (Talks), and buy Talks myself, would that give me full functionality or do I still have to go and buy mobile Speaks? Sincerely, Lauren To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Talks question
I've generally heard that talks outperforms mobile speak on any simbion phone. contact details: email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca and others msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio - Original Message - From: Keith Gillard kgill...@shaw.ca To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 4:00 PM Subject: Re: Talks question Thats really funny since talks out performs Moble speak on my E71 and N95. Before you start it, I know they are two different platforms and i suspect that my two units have a lot more horse power then that ozone unit. - Original Message - From: Martin, Tim A., NMDOT tim.mar...@state.nm.us To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:09 AM Subject: RE: Talks question Hi Chris, You may have a point here. I guess the reason I thought this was that Talks seemed, when I compared the functions to Mobile Speaks, to be very sluggish. Also there didn't seem to be the same application access. I used Talks 2 different times for about 15 days each. And again it may be how each software package was written, and the platform they are written for. I have found out recently that ATT is selling Mobile Speaks for the $89.00 that you mentioned. I would be very curious to find out if it is the fully functioning MSS and whether the license can be transferred to other devices. Have a good day. Tim -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 6:52 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Talks question Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working version? What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for the Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version. Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows Mobile and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the Symbian and now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be careful when talking about Talks that they're clear to specify the Symbian versus Windows Mobile version. I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with anything selling Talks for $99. ATT sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I think that's the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a bit more. I suspect the price is more the result of a deal made between Nuance and Verizon or ATT and code Factory than it is the fact that a stripped down version of the screen reader is being sold. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Talks question Hi Lauren, I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work for most functions, but it is not the full working version. That is probably why they get away with selling it for the price they do. Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones, but it does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have. You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on the Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract. If you can afford it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can purchase Mobile Speaks. I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the software to other Smart phones in the future should you decide at some point to get another phone. Of course, you can only run the software on 1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple. Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to purchase, which allows you some time to acquire the funds. The company that I purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase plan. They do charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little easier if you can't get the money at once. You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone. You do however, need to have good cell service in the area in which you live. You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is not difficult to read texts or E-mails. I wouldn't use a phone as my main source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need it. Any other questions are welcomed. Sincerely, Tim Martin -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Talks question Hi Tim, Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I can't find out if it is a limited or fully
