Fwd: The Braille note Apex, and more pro tools for the mac on Innovations this week

2009-11-21 Thread Steve Pattison
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Hello,

This week on Innovations we have the first of a 2 part interview with 
Matthew Janusauskas from Humanware about the new Braillenote Apex. In this 
part, we concentrate on the hardware and some of the software, and how it 
differs from previous models.
We also have part 2 of the podcast from Maccessibility about pro tools, and 
we hear more from Slau.
Innovations first airs on Tuesdays at 17UTC, that's 12pm US Eastern, 9am US 
pacific and 6pm in Central Europe. It repeats several times throughout the 
week and you can check our schedule to find the time which best suits you.
As always, the program is available from our program gallery.
All this happens on the Global Voice
www.theglobalvoice.info

Innovations also airs on Radio For Life
www.radioforlife.net
On Wednesdays at 12pm US Eastern, 9am Pacific, and 6pm in Central Europe, 
and on Sundays at 7pm US Eastern.
It also airs on Taping For The Blind
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On Fridays at 4am and 4pm US Central.

So join Chrissie Cochrane for another exciting edition of Innovations, from 
The Global Voice, the most informative, entertaining, and interactive 
station on the Internet.

All the best,
Naama Erez
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Amadeus Pro leading the way in accessible audio editing for the Mac

2009-11-21 Thread Dane Trethowan
It gives me extreme pleasure, satisfaction and pride! to write about some of 
the new features sported by the amadeus Pro multi track editor/recorder, many 
of which have been implemented by the author due to great feedback and 
interaction from users of the product.

We now have a Go To and Extend Selection to location commands of command-g 
and command-shift-g respectively, these 2 keyboard shortcuts and menu options 
add yet more flexibility to an already enormously flexible and rich set of 
editing features that Amadeus Pro offers.

As users of Amadeus Pro would know, this software is one of the very few truly 
accessible multi track recording/editing tools on the market whether that be 
for the Mac or the Windows PC, its certainly the cheapest at $45.00 U.S. and 
still gets rave reviews as you'll see if you look for reviews of Amadeus Pro 
through Google or on Amadeus Pro's own web site at 
http://www.hairersoft.com/Welcome.html

If you're using a Windows Audio Editor and you're able to migrate to a Mac then 
take a trial of Amadeus Pro for a spin, you'll be amazed! at the performance 
differences you'll find when it comes to editing and so on, better recording 
implementation and so forth.

My final words are simply, thank you! fellow Amadeus Pro Users for doing as 
I've done, sending in your comments and suggestions to the author, a great 
product can only keep on improving for everyone.

 

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iTunes 9 Library Questions

2009-11-21 Thread Dan Kerstetter
When I add folders to my library, how can I keep duplicate songs from being 
added?

If duplicates have been already added is there a way to remove them?

Thanks.

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Sorry

2009-11-21 Thread Dan Kerstetter
Sorry about my previous posting.  It was supposed to go to a different list.  
I'm using a new email program and got the wrong address.

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looking for winamp tutorial

2009-11-21 Thread dan kysor

any good audio winamp tutorial out there?
Dan

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sound on sound digital mixer

2009-11-21 Thread dan kysor
i am looking for an accessible sound on sound mixer with hard 
drive, 8 channels or more.  Anyone here know of one that a blind 
person could access?

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Amadeus Pro leading the way in accessible audio editing for the Mac

2009-11-21 Thread DJ DOCTOR P

High Dane,
Are you saying, that this software will run on a windows system?
Or am I misunderstanding you here about this?
 John.
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From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 7:13 AM
Subject: Amadeus Pro leading the way in accessible audio editing for the Mac


It gives me extreme pleasure, satisfaction and pride! to write about some 
of the new features sported by the amadeus Pro multi track 
editor/recorder, many of which have been implemented by the author due to 
great feedback and interaction from users of the product.


We now have a Go To and Extend Selection to location commands of 
command-g and command-shift-g respectively, these 2 keyboard shortcuts and 
menu options add yet more flexibility to an already enormously flexible 
and rich set of editing features that Amadeus Pro offers.


As users of Amadeus Pro would know, this software is one of the very few 
truly accessible multi track recording/editing tools on the market whether 
that be for the Mac or the Windows PC, its certainly the cheapest at 
$45.00 U.S. and still gets rave reviews as you'll see if you look for 
reviews of Amadeus Pro through Google or on Amadeus Pro's own web site 
at http://www.hairersoft.com/Welcome.html


If you're using a Windows Audio Editor and you're able to migrate to a Mac 
then take a trial of Amadeus Pro for a spin, you'll be amazed! at the 
performance differences you'll find when it comes to editing and so on, 
better recording implementation and so forth.


My final words are simply, thank you! fellow Amadeus Pro Users for doing 
as I've done, sending in your comments and suggestions to the author, a 
great product can only keep on improving for everyone.




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Re: Amadeus Pro leading the way in accessible audio editing for the Mac

2009-11-21 Thread Dane Trethowan
No, this software will run only on a Mac, what I'm saying is that if you're 
able to try the software on a Mac - and you've used audio recorders/editors 
under Windows - then you'll notice a huge increase in performance with the Mac 
and Amadeus Pro compared to what you've been used to under your audio 
recording/editing application under Windows.


On 22/11/2009, at 3:37 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote:

 High Dane,
 Are you saying, that this software will run on a windows system?
 Or am I misunderstanding you here about this?
 John.
 - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 7:13 AM
 Subject: Amadeus Pro leading the way in accessible audio editing for the Mac
 
 
 It gives me extreme pleasure, satisfaction and pride! to write about some of 
 the new features sported by the amadeus Pro multi track editor/recorder, 
 many of which have been implemented by the author due to great feedback and 
 interaction from users of the product.
 
 We now have a Go To and Extend Selection to location commands of 
 command-g and command-shift-g respectively, these 2 keyboard shortcuts and 
 menu options add yet more flexibility to an already enormously flexible and 
 rich set of editing features that Amadeus Pro offers.
 
 As users of Amadeus Pro would know, this software is one of the very few 
 truly accessible multi track recording/editing tools on the market whether 
 that be for the Mac or the Windows PC, its certainly the cheapest at $45.00 
 U.S. and still gets rave reviews as you'll see if you look for reviews of 
 Amadeus Pro through Google or on Amadeus Pro's own web site at 
 http://www.hairersoft.com/Welcome.html
 
 If you're using a Windows Audio Editor and you're able to migrate to a Mac 
 then take a trial of Amadeus Pro for a spin, you'll be amazed! at the 
 performance differences you'll find when it comes to editing and so on, 
 better recording implementation and so forth.
 
 My final words are simply, thank you! fellow Amadeus Pro Users for doing as 
 I've done, sending in your comments and suggestions to the author, a great 
 product can only keep on improving for everyone.
 
 
 
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Re: Amadeus Pro leading the way in accessible audio editing for theMac

2009-11-21 Thread DJ DOCTOR P

High Dane,
Think you for clearing that up for me.
I see a Mack system in my future any way, but I'd like to still be able to 
do the things that I am doing with my PC.
Someone told me that the Mack systems come with garage, is that a good audio 
editor?And, can you tell me a little something about how Voice Over works?

Thinks.
 John.
- Original Message - 
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: Amadeus Pro leading the way in accessible audio editing for 
theMac



No, this software will run only on a Mac, what I'm saying is that if 
you're able to try the software on a Mac - and you've used audio 
recorders/editors under Windows - then you'll notice a huge increase in 
performance with the Mac and Amadeus Pro compared to what you've been used 
to under your audio recording/editing application under Windows.



On 22/11/2009, at 3:37 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote:


High Dane,
Are you saying, that this software will run on a windows system?
Or am I misunderstanding you here about this?
John.
- Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan 
grtd...@internode.on.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 7:13 AM
Subject: Amadeus Pro leading the way in accessible audio editing for the 
Mac



It gives me extreme pleasure, satisfaction and pride! to write about 
some of the new features sported by the amadeus Pro multi track 
editor/recorder, many of which have been implemented by the author due 
to great feedback and interaction from users of the product.


We now have a Go To and Extend Selection to location commands of 
command-g and command-shift-g respectively, these 2 keyboard shortcuts 
and menu options add yet more flexibility to an already enormously 
flexible and rich set of editing features that Amadeus Pro offers.


As users of Amadeus Pro would know, this software is one of the very few 
truly accessible multi track recording/editing tools on the market 
whether that be for the Mac or the Windows PC, its certainly the 
cheapest at $45.00 U.S. and still gets rave reviews as you'll see if you 
look for reviews of Amadeus Pro through Google or on Amadeus Pro's own 
web site at http://www.hairersoft.com/Welcome.html


If you're using a Windows Audio Editor and you're able to migrate to a 
Mac then take a trial of Amadeus Pro for a spin, you'll be amazed! at 
the performance differences you'll find when it comes to editing and so 
on, better recording implementation and so forth.


My final words are simply, thank you! fellow Amadeus Pro Users for doing 
as I've done, sending in your comments and suggestions to the author, a 
great product can only keep on improving for everyone.




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Goldwave, a new laptop and windows 7.

2009-11-21 Thread Vinny Samarco

Hi,
   I originally purchased my goldwave program to work on my xp computer. 
My wife has just begun using a new laptop with windows 7.  Without buying a 
new version of Goldwave, How would I transfer my program to her laptop? 
Would goldwave work on Windows 7?

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Re: Amadeus Pro leading the way in accessible audio editing for theMac

2009-11-21 Thread Dane Trethowan
There's no reason why you can't do the things you're currently doing now on a 
Mac with Windows if that's what you want to do, there are a number of ways to 
do this though I'm afraid they're off topic for this list smile, suffice to 
say that you may find - as others have done - yourself using Windows less and 
less once you start to use your Mac but again, another discussion for another 
time perhaps.

Garage Band is a recording facility which allows the recording of music, audio 
and I think it does multi track recording too! though its something I've never 
investigated to be honest, you can find out more about it at 
http://www.icanworkthisthing.com where you'll find excellent tutorials on the 
product and how to access it on your Mac with Voiceover and yep! it comes with 
the operating system of your Mac as standard.


On 22/11/2009, at 4:08 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote:

 High Dane,
 Think you for clearing that up for me.
 I see a Mack system in my future any way, but I'd like to still be able to do 
 the things that I am doing with my PC.
 Someone told me that the Mack systems come with garage, is that a good audio 
 editor?And, can you tell me a little something about how Voice Over works?
 Thinks.
 John.
 - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 11:52 AM
 Subject: Re: Amadeus Pro leading the way in accessible audio editing for 
 theMac
 
 
 No, this software will run only on a Mac, what I'm saying is that if you're 
 able to try the software on a Mac - and you've used audio recorders/editors 
 under Windows - then you'll notice a huge increase in performance with the 
 Mac and Amadeus Pro compared to what you've been used to under your audio 
 recording/editing application under Windows.
 
 
 On 22/11/2009, at 3:37 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote:
 
 High Dane,
 Are you saying, that this software will run on a windows system?
 Or am I misunderstanding you here about this?
 John.
 - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan 
 grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 7:13 AM
 Subject: Amadeus Pro leading the way in accessible audio editing for the Mac
 
 
 It gives me extreme pleasure, satisfaction and pride! to write about some 
 of the new features sported by the amadeus Pro multi track 
 editor/recorder, many of which have been implemented by the author due to 
 great feedback and interaction from users of the product.
 
 We now have a Go To and Extend Selection to location commands of 
 command-g and command-shift-g respectively, these 2 keyboard shortcuts and 
 menu options add yet more flexibility to an already enormously flexible 
 and rich set of editing features that Amadeus Pro offers.
 
 As users of Amadeus Pro would know, this software is one of the very few 
 truly accessible multi track recording/editing tools on the market whether 
 that be for the Mac or the Windows PC, its certainly the cheapest at 
 $45.00 U.S. and still gets rave reviews as you'll see if you look for 
 reviews of Amadeus Pro through Google or on Amadeus Pro's own web site 
 at http://www.hairersoft.com/Welcome.html
 
 If you're using a Windows Audio Editor and you're able to migrate to a Mac 
 then take a trial of Amadeus Pro for a spin, you'll be amazed! at the 
 performance differences you'll find when it comes to editing and so on, 
 better recording implementation and so forth.
 
 My final words are simply, thank you! fellow Amadeus Pro Users for doing 
 as I've done, sending in your comments and suggestions to the author, a 
 great product can only keep on improving for everyone.
 
 
 
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Re: Goldwave, a new laptop and windows 7.

2009-11-21 Thread Dane Trethowan
as I understand it, the latest version of 4.55 will work with Windows 7 just 
fine.  I don't know about how Windows 7 works at this point though I'm likely 
to find out in the coming week with the purchase of a Toshiba L300 notebook 
smile but I would imagine that all you have to do is to download the file, 
install it onto your Windows 7 computer and enter your registration key?


On 22/11/2009, at 5:12 AM, Vinny Samarco wrote:

 Hi,
   I originally purchased my goldwave program to work on my xp computer. My 
 wife has just begun using a new laptop with windows 7.  Without buying a new 
 version of Goldwave, How would I transfer my program to her laptop? Would 
 goldwave work on Windows 7?
 Thanks,
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Re: Amadeus Pro leading the way in accessible audio editing for theMac

2009-11-21 Thread Robert Logue

I sure would love to hear a podcast of blind people using
Amadeus Pro on the Mac.  I'd like to hear how well it works with setting 
parameters in plugins.




Does it work with MIDI?



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Re: Amadeus Pro leading the way in accessible audio editing for theMac

2009-11-21 Thread Dane Trethowan
Okay, I did the first Amadeus Pro podcast quite some time ago and I 
haven't had a cance to do another yet, you'll find it at 
http://www.blindcooltech.com


No, Amadeus Pro is purely an Audio editor/recorder and - to my knowledge 
- doesn't work with MIDI though you can use VST plug-ins and the like 
with it.


I've used these plug-ins before, select them from the appropriate menu, 
tweak the settings, press the Okay button and the effect or whatever 
is applied to the portion of the sound you've selected etc.




Robert Logue wrote:

I sure would love to hear a podcast of blind people using
Amadeus Pro on the Mac.  I'd like to hear how well it works with 
setting parameters in plugins.




Does it work with MIDI?



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Re: Digital recorders again - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71

2009-11-21 Thread tim
hi all! am seriously debating between a ds71 and a dm520, only thing 
stopping me from the dm520 is the not included stereo mike like that comes 
with the ds71, also, is there any other recorders with 4 gig or grater 
copasity, built in speech and a mike or 2 included with the product? thanks 
for help!
- Original Message - 
From: Lauren lotusris...@att.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 6:48
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71



Hi,

Can someone please talk about the cost f these items? I am looking for a 
digital recorder that you can take anywhere, that has a good sound 
quality, but that is also affordable. I am on a budget.




Sincerely,

Lauren
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From: Tim Noonan t...@timnoonan.com.au

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 7:35 PM
Subject: RE: Digital recorders again - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71



I would guess, in the  absence of no hard comparative data, that the audio
recording quality of the Pocket is quite a bit better than is the Olympus
DS-71, which I do have.

I find the Olympus, across a range of external mics does have a degree of
background hiss (preamp noise or circuit noise). This is the case when 
set

to wave recording and manual mic input levels.

Also, The Olympus doesn't actually have a line in, only a mic in port, so 
I

am curious about line in recording quality, and whether you are using an
attenuation cable to reduce the line in signal to mic levels?

That all said, I absolutely love my Olympus DS-71 in so many ways, and 
for
so many reasons: its  extraordinarily flexible and effective voice 
recording

capabilities, battery life and replaceable batteries, and especially its
super compact size makes it a take everywhere audio device.

Speaker monitoring of line in recordings, and audible recording level
feedback are features unique to the Plextalk recorders.

Regards
Tim

-Original Message-t
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of G-Dog
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:20 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again.

Agreed!

accessability is a very important factor but it doesn't equate to
performance.
I use the olympus DS-71 which does an excellent job for both mike and 
line

in recordings.
Yes, you can monitor through headphones.
I also like the fact that it uses AAA batteries that makes it easy to 
swap

them out if needed.

I hear the Edital R9 is also a nifty unit

G-Doggy-dog!
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again.


That statement should probably be qualified: It may well be the most
excellent recording device in its class on the market, I couldn't say
but have no reason to believe otherwise, but there are better recording
devices on the market. Sweeping statements are dangerous.

Bruce


On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:56:11 -0500, Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net
said:

I totally agree with you Dean, the plextalk pocket is the most exclent
recording device on the market these days.

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To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:36 PM
Subject: RE: Digital recorders again.


What I know is that the PlexTalk Pocket is totally accessible, nicely
packaged, has both manual and automatic level control, and does a very
nice
job of recording from the line injack.  I doubt any other digital
recorder
provides as much feedback, as this one is made for the blind.  Of 
course,

it
may (or may not, I don't know) cost more than others of similar quality,
but
there's no guesswork involved.  It's nice to be able to monitor through
the
speaker when making a line-in recording.

Dean


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On Behalf Of Tim Crawford
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:27 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Digital recorders again.

Hi all,

Just wondering, which one of the flash memory based recorders recently
discussed here, would be most suitable for making high quality 
recordings

from an external source via line-in?  e.g. a satellite receiver.

I don't intend recording via microphone, so that particular aspect of
performance is of limited interest.

Any views much appreciated.

Cheers,

Tim.
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Re: Digital recorders again - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71

2009-11-21 Thread Jamie Pauls

Doesn't the dm-520 have a built-in stereo mic?
- Original Message - 
From: tim isfe...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71


hi all! am seriously debating between a ds71 and a dm520, only thing 
stopping me from the dm520 is the not included stereo mike like that comes 
with the ds71, also, is there any other recorders with 4 gig or grater 
copasity, built in speech and a mike or 2 included with the product? 
thanks for help!
- Original Message - 
From: Lauren lotusris...@att.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 6:48
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71



Hi,

Can someone please talk about the cost f these items? I am looking for a 
digital recorder that you can take anywhere, that has a good sound 
quality, but that is also affordable. I am on a budget.




Sincerely,

Lauren
- Original Message - 
From: Tim Noonan t...@timnoonan.com.au

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 7:35 PM
Subject: RE: Digital recorders again - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71


I would guess, in the  absence of no hard comparative data, that the 
audio
recording quality of the Pocket is quite a bit better than is the 
Olympus

DS-71, which I do have.

I find the Olympus, across a range of external mics does have a degree 
of
background hiss (preamp noise or circuit noise). This is the case when 
set

to wave recording and manual mic input levels.

Also, The Olympus doesn't actually have a line in, only a mic in port, 
so I

am curious about line in recording quality, and whether you are using an
attenuation cable to reduce the line in signal to mic levels?

That all said, I absolutely love my Olympus DS-71 in so many ways, and 
for
so many reasons: its  extraordinarily flexible and effective voice 
recording

capabilities, battery life and replaceable batteries, and especially its
super compact size makes it a take everywhere audio device.

Speaker monitoring of line in recordings, and audible recording level
feedback are features unique to the Plextalk recorders.

Regards
Tim

-Original Message-t
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of G-Dog
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:20 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again.

Agreed!

accessability is a very important factor but it doesn't equate to
performance.
I use the olympus DS-71 which does an excellent job for both mike and 
line

in recordings.
Yes, you can monitor through headphones.
I also like the fact that it uses AAA batteries that makes it easy to 
swap

them out if needed.

I hear the Edital R9 is also a nifty unit

G-Doggy-dog!
- Original Message - 
From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again.


That statement should probably be qualified: It may well be the most
excellent recording device in its class on the market, I couldn't say
but have no reason to believe otherwise, but there are better recording
devices on the market. Sweeping statements are dangerous.

Bruce


On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:56:11 -0500, Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net
said:

I totally agree with you Dean, the plextalk pocket is the most exclent
recording device on the market these days.

- Original Message - 
From: dean martineau dea...@earthlink.net

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:36 PM
Subject: RE: Digital recorders again.


What I know is that the PlexTalk Pocket is totally accessible, nicely
packaged, has both manual and automatic level control, and does a very
nice
job of recording from the line injack.  I doubt any other digital
recorder
provides as much feedback, as this one is made for the blind.  Of 
course,

it
may (or may not, I don't know) cost more than others of similar 
quality,

but
there's no guesswork involved.  It's nice to be able to monitor through
the
speaker when making a line-in recording.

Dean


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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Tim Crawford
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:27 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Digital recorders again.

Hi all,

Just wondering, which one of the flash memory based recorders recently
discussed here, would be most suitable for making high quality 
recordings

from an external source via line-in?  e.g. a satellite receiver.

I don't intend recording via microphone, so that particular aspect of
performance is of limited interest.

Any views much appreciated.

Cheers,

Tim.
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Re: Digital recorders again - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71

2009-11-21 Thread tim
as far as I know it does, to be a bit more clear, I do alot! of automobile 
recordings, just random outdoors, some indoor recordings, and am looking for 
something that will get almost crystal clear sound, for the past 5 years, I 
have been using a dell latitude d520's built in mike with audacity and only 
problem some times is the computer emits a ringing noise not to loud that if 
I am for example recording a startup of a vehicle it will over power it at 
all, but if its killed or I turn the vehicle off the sound can be herd some 
times.  thanks again!
- Original Message - 
From: Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@sbcglobal.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 16:33
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71



Doesn't the dm-520 have a built-in stereo mic?
- Original Message - 
From: tim isfe...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71


hi all! am seriously debating between a ds71 and a dm520, only thing 
stopping me from the dm520 is the not included stereo mike like that 
comes with the ds71, also, is there any other recorders with 4 gig or 
grater copasity, built in speech and a mike or 2 included with the 
product? thanks for help!
- Original Message - 
From: Lauren lotusris...@att.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 6:48
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71



Hi,

Can someone please talk about the cost f these items? I am looking for a 
digital recorder that you can take anywhere, that has a good sound 
quality, but that is also affordable. I am on a budget.




Sincerely,

Lauren
- Original Message - 
From: Tim Noonan t...@timnoonan.com.au

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 7:35 PM
Subject: RE: Digital recorders again - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71


I would guess, in the  absence of no hard comparative data, that the 
audio
recording quality of the Pocket is quite a bit better than is the 
Olympus

DS-71, which I do have.

I find the Olympus, across a range of external mics does have a degree 
of
background hiss (preamp noise or circuit noise). This is the case when 
set

to wave recording and manual mic input levels.

Also, The Olympus doesn't actually have a line in, only a mic in port, 
so I
am curious about line in recording quality, and whether you are using 
an

attenuation cable to reduce the line in signal to mic levels?

That all said, I absolutely love my Olympus DS-71 in so many ways, and 
for
so many reasons: its  extraordinarily flexible and effective voice 
recording
capabilities, battery life and replaceable batteries, and especially 
its

super compact size makes it a take everywhere audio device.

Speaker monitoring of line in recordings, and audible recording level
feedback are features unique to the Plextalk recorders.

Regards
Tim

-Original Message-t
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of G-Dog
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:20 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again.

Agreed!

accessability is a very important factor but it doesn't equate to
performance.
I use the olympus DS-71 which does an excellent job for both mike and 
line

in recordings.
Yes, you can monitor through headphones.
I also like the fact that it uses AAA batteries that makes it easy to 
swap

them out if needed.

I hear the Edital R9 is also a nifty unit

G-Doggy-dog!
- Original Message - 
From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again.


That statement should probably be qualified: It may well be the most
excellent recording device in its class on the market, I couldn't say
but have no reason to believe otherwise, but there are better recording
devices on the market. Sweeping statements are dangerous.

Bruce


On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:56:11 -0500, Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net
said:

I totally agree with you Dean, the plextalk pocket is the most exclent
recording device on the market these days.

- Original Message - 
From: dean martineau dea...@earthlink.net

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:36 PM
Subject: RE: Digital recorders again.


What I know is that the PlexTalk Pocket is totally accessible, nicely
packaged, has both manual and automatic level control, and does a very
nice
job of recording from the line injack.  I doubt any other digital
recorder
provides as much feedback, as this one is made for the blind.  Of 
course,

it
may (or may not, I don't know) cost more than others of similar 
quality,

but
there's no guesswork involved.  It's 

Winamp Question

2009-11-21 Thread Tom Kaufman
Hi gang:  Have been using Winamp 5.52 for a while; I notice that..sometimes it 
seems like it takes a long time for Winamp to load!  Let's say I've finished 
listening to a particular file; then I go out of it, scroll down to another 
file..it takes forever for Winamp to load..and then the file will play; is 
there any way of speeding things up a little?  If this will  help, am running 
Jaws 11..and Windows XP (Home edition..Service pack 3.  Thanks for any info you 
can impart.
Tom Kaufman (aka Tomcat)
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Re: Digital recorders again - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71

2009-11-21 Thread tim

so not sure what one to get the ds71 is more expensive, but not sure
- Original Message - 
From: Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@sbcglobal.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 16:33
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71



Doesn't the dm-520 have a built-in stereo mic?
- Original Message - 
From: tim isfe...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71


hi all! am seriously debating between a ds71 and a dm520, only thing 
stopping me from the dm520 is the not included stereo mike like that 
comes with the ds71, also, is there any other recorders with 4 gig or 
grater copasity, built in speech and a mike or 2 included with the 
product? thanks for help!
- Original Message - 
From: Lauren lotusris...@att.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 6:48
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71



Hi,

Can someone please talk about the cost f these items? I am looking for a 
digital recorder that you can take anywhere, that has a good sound 
quality, but that is also affordable. I am on a budget.




Sincerely,

Lauren
- Original Message - 
From: Tim Noonan t...@timnoonan.com.au

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 7:35 PM
Subject: RE: Digital recorders again - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71


I would guess, in the  absence of no hard comparative data, that the 
audio
recording quality of the Pocket is quite a bit better than is the 
Olympus

DS-71, which I do have.

I find the Olympus, across a range of external mics does have a degree 
of
background hiss (preamp noise or circuit noise). This is the case when 
set

to wave recording and manual mic input levels.

Also, The Olympus doesn't actually have a line in, only a mic in port, 
so I
am curious about line in recording quality, and whether you are using 
an

attenuation cable to reduce the line in signal to mic levels?

That all said, I absolutely love my Olympus DS-71 in so many ways, and 
for
so many reasons: its  extraordinarily flexible and effective voice 
recording
capabilities, battery life and replaceable batteries, and especially 
its

super compact size makes it a take everywhere audio device.

Speaker monitoring of line in recordings, and audible recording level
feedback are features unique to the Plextalk recorders.

Regards
Tim

-Original Message-t
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of G-Dog
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:20 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again.

Agreed!

accessability is a very important factor but it doesn't equate to
performance.
I use the olympus DS-71 which does an excellent job for both mike and 
line

in recordings.
Yes, you can monitor through headphones.
I also like the fact that it uses AAA batteries that makes it easy to 
swap

them out if needed.

I hear the Edital R9 is also a nifty unit

G-Doggy-dog!
- Original Message - 
From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again.


That statement should probably be qualified: It may well be the most
excellent recording device in its class on the market, I couldn't say
but have no reason to believe otherwise, but there are better recording
devices on the market. Sweeping statements are dangerous.

Bruce


On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:56:11 -0500, Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net
said:

I totally agree with you Dean, the plextalk pocket is the most exclent
recording device on the market these days.

- Original Message - 
From: dean martineau dea...@earthlink.net

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:36 PM
Subject: RE: Digital recorders again.


What I know is that the PlexTalk Pocket is totally accessible, nicely
packaged, has both manual and automatic level control, and does a very
nice
job of recording from the line injack.  I doubt any other digital
recorder
provides as much feedback, as this one is made for the blind.  Of 
course,

it
may (or may not, I don't know) cost more than others of similar 
quality,

but
there's no guesswork involved.  It's nice to be able to monitor 
through

the
speaker when making a line-in recording.

Dean


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Tim Crawford
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:27 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Digital recorders again.

Hi all,

Just wondering, which one of the flash memory based recorders recently
discussed here, would be most suitable for making high quality 
recordings

from an 

Re: burning a cd with windows media player 11 question

2009-11-21 Thread dan thompson

Hi
there, here is how it should work.

Burning an audio cd



1. Insert a blank CDR disc into your CDRW drive.

2. A dialog window should pop up after a few seconds.  Your screenreader 
should say, CDRW (and the letter of that drive.)




You are in a list view, Press the up or down arrow until you highlight open 
rittible cd using windows explorer.  Tab to the OK button and hit enter.


You could also just press the letter o followed by enter to open the same cd 
folder.




3. Now hold down the right windows key and hit the letter E.  This will 
bring up


Windows Explorer.

You will land in the treeview on My Computer.

If the files you are looking for is located in My Documents, arrow up one 
time then


tab, and then you should be in a list of the files that are in My Documents.

If the files are not in My Documents, then tab one time, hit L for local 
drive, hit


enter.

Now you are in a list of folders contained on your C: or main drive.

Navigate to where the files you want to burn are located.

4. Now it is basically a copy and paste process.

Select the files you want to burn either one at a time or group at a time, 
and hit


Control C to copy the files.

Remember that to select files, hold down the left control key and press the 
space bar on those files you wish to select.  If you press the spacebar and 
you hear the file's name spoken followed by unselected, press the spacebar 
again and that file will be selected.  You usually only need press the 
spacebar once on each file.   Remember to not let go of the control key 
while highlighting files.  If you happen to accidently let go of the control 
key and then arrow down once to the next file, all files are unselected.






5. Now hit alt tab to go to the CDRW drive dialog.  Then hit Control V to 
paste those


files to the CDRW drive folder.

6. If you have more files to burn, use Alt Tab to switch between the two 
windows.


Do steps 4  5 until all of the files you want to burn are copied over.

NOTE: Remember the 700 MB limit per CD.

Make sure the total of all of your files does not go over that limit.

7. Now once you are done copying and ready to burn, Alt Tab until you are in 
the CDRW


Drive dialog.

8. Hit Alt F for the file menu.  Hit enter on the first choice, which should 
be,


write these files to CD.

9. This will bring up the CD burning Wizard dialog.  You will be put in a CD 
name:


edit box.

The date is automatically put into this box by default.

To give your CD a name, first hit the delete key to clear the edit box, then 
type


what you would like to name the CD.

10. Then just tab to the next button and hit the space bar.

11.  You are given the choice of two radio buttons.  The highlighted one is 
make an audio cd for standard audio cd players.


The second radio button is make a data cd for computer and some cd 
players.




12.Tab to next and press enter or the space bar.



13.  Window media player will open.Tab to burn button and press the 
space bar.




14.  Tab to start burn  and press the space bar or enter.  The burning 
process will start.




When it is done writing, your CD drive door should automatically pop out so 
you can


remove the CD.



You will be placed back into Windows Media Player with the start burn 
buttonhighlighted.


I hope the above instructions helped you accomplish what you were wanting to 
do!


- Original Message - 
From: Don Lorah donlo...@verizon.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: burning a cd with windows media player 11 question


I have two problems:  When I try to paste files, Windows says:  Windows 
has
a problem copying; these are mp3 files.  Second, after opening the 
wizzard,
I do not get the choice of:  audio or beta.  Pressing next immediately 
burns

a beta and not an audio.  Disc is then unusable.  Any help appreciated,
thanks, Don
- Original Message - 
From: DJ DOCTOR P djdoct...@att.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: burning a cd with windows media player 11 question


High Dan,
When the CD writing wizard comes up, it will give you 2 choices.
It will give you the option to make a data CD or to make an audio CD.
Scroll down to make an audio CD in then press inter for Jaws or click the
next button for Window Eyes.

From that point on, you should be good to go.

My best regards!
 John.
- Original Message - 
From: dan thompson dthomps...@mchsi.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 6:15 AM
Subject: burning a cd with windows media player 11 question



Can someone  please give the step-by- step for burning audio with WMP11.
After I open
the wizzard, and press, next, the burning begins and I have a beta cd 
when

I want
an audio.  About one in ten tries I do actually get the menu choice of
beta or audio.
How can I always get this choice?  Any 

Re: burning a cd with windows media player 11 question

2009-11-21 Thread dan thompson


thank you very much for the guidance.

- Original Message - 
From: Cornell Ligon cjli...@msn.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 8:18 AM
Subject: RE: burning a cd with windows media player 11 question





Hi,

open the player and tab down to burn settings. Press enter there and move 
arrow down once. You will then have the option to select audio or data 
cd - make sure the audio is checked.


HTH!



Best Regards, Cornell




From: dthomps...@mchsi.com
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: burning a cd with windows media player 11 question
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:15:10 -0600

Can someone please give the step-by- step for burning audio with WMP11.
After I open
the wizzard, and press, next, the burning begins and I have a beta cd 
when I

want
an audio. About one in ten tries I do actually get the menu choice of 
beta

or audio.
How can I always get this choice? Any help appreciated,
I am using win-xp pro with Window-eyes 7.1.
Thahnks in advance.


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Re: Digital recorders again - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71

2009-11-21 Thread Gary Schindler

I would go for the DM-520,
because you can split wave files and parcial erase them to! I think they 
will phase out the  DS-71 soon anyway.


- Original Message - 
From: tim isfe...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71



so not sure what one to get the ds71 is more expensive, but not sure
- Original Message - 
From: Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@sbcglobal.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 16:33
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71



Doesn't the dm-520 have a built-in stereo mic?
- Original Message - 
From: tim isfe...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71


hi all! am seriously debating between a ds71 and a dm520, only thing 
stopping me from the dm520 is the not included stereo mike like that 
comes with the ds71, also, is there any other recorders with 4 gig or 
grater copasity, built in speech and a mike or 2 included with the 
product? thanks for help!
- Original Message - 
From: Lauren lotusris...@att.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 6:48
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71



Hi,

Can someone please talk about the cost f these items? I am looking for 
a digital recorder that you can take anywhere, that has a good sound 
quality, but that is also affordable. I am on a budget.




Sincerely,

Lauren
- Original Message - 
From: Tim Noonan t...@timnoonan.com.au

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 7:35 PM
Subject: RE: Digital recorders again - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus 
DS-71



I would guess, in the  absence of no hard comparative data, that the 
audio
recording quality of the Pocket is quite a bit better than is the 
Olympus

DS-71, which I do have.

I find the Olympus, across a range of external mics does have a degree 
of
background hiss (preamp noise or circuit noise). This is the case when 
set

to wave recording and manual mic input levels.

Also, The Olympus doesn't actually have a line in, only a mic in port, 
so I
am curious about line in recording quality, and whether you are using 
an

attenuation cable to reduce the line in signal to mic levels?

That all said, I absolutely love my Olympus DS-71 in so many ways, and 
for
so many reasons: its  extraordinarily flexible and effective voice 
recording
capabilities, battery life and replaceable batteries, and especially 
its

super compact size makes it a take everywhere audio device.

Speaker monitoring of line in recordings, and audible recording level
feedback are features unique to the Plextalk recorders.

Regards
Tim

-Original Message-t
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of G-Dog
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:20 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again.

Agreed!

accessability is a very important factor but it doesn't equate to
performance.
I use the olympus DS-71 which does an excellent job for both mike and 
line

in recordings.
Yes, you can monitor through headphones.
I also like the fact that it uses AAA batteries that makes it easy to 
swap

them out if needed.

I hear the Edital R9 is also a nifty unit

G-Doggy-dog!
- Original Message - 
From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again.


That statement should probably be qualified: It may well be the most
excellent recording device in its class on the market, I couldn't say
but have no reason to believe otherwise, but there are better 
recording

devices on the market. Sweeping statements are dangerous.

Bruce


On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:56:11 -0500, Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net
said:
I totally agree with you Dean, the plextalk pocket is the most 
exclent

recording device on the market these days.

- Original Message - 
From: dean martineau dea...@earthlink.net

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:36 PM
Subject: RE: Digital recorders again.


What I know is that the PlexTalk Pocket is totally accessible, nicely
packaged, has both manual and automatic level control, and does a 
very

nice
job of recording from the line injack.  I doubt any other digital
recorder
provides as much feedback, as this one is made for the blind.  Of 
course,

it
may (or may not, I don't know) cost more than others of similar 
quality,

but
there's no guesswork involved.  It's nice to be able to monitor 
through

the
speaker when making a line-in recording.

Dean


-Original 

Re: Digital recorders again - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71

2009-11-21 Thread tim
awsome yeah everyone been saying that, some one else said olimpus nasty 
stuff! lol to go the the zume, soney, or ederel which none of which speak 
guess they figured it out reading the manuals and what not.  thing is, the 
dm520 it comes with a detachable mike right? the list that has whats 
included doesn't say its in there how ever the ds71 has one in there a 
stereo mike and remote.
- Original Message - 
From: Gary Schindler garys5...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 20:29
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71



I would go for the DM-520,
because you can split wave files and parcial erase them to! I think they 
will phase out the  DS-71 soon anyway.


- Original Message - 
From: tim isfe...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71



so not sure what one to get the ds71 is more expensive, but not sure
- Original Message - 
From: Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@sbcglobal.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 16:33
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71



Doesn't the dm-520 have a built-in stereo mic?
- Original Message - 
From: tim isfe...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71


hi all! am seriously debating between a ds71 and a dm520, only thing 
stopping me from the dm520 is the not included stereo mike like that 
comes with the ds71, also, is there any other recorders with 4 gig or 
grater copasity, built in speech and a mike or 2 included with the 
product? thanks for help!
- Original Message - 
From: Lauren lotusris...@att.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 6:48
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus 
DS-71




Hi,

Can someone please talk about the cost f these items? I am looking for 
a digital recorder that you can take anywhere, that has a good sound 
quality, but that is also affordable. I am on a budget.




Sincerely,

Lauren
- Original Message - 
From: Tim Noonan t...@timnoonan.com.au

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 7:35 PM
Subject: RE: Digital recorders again - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus 
DS-71



I would guess, in the  absence of no hard comparative data, that the 
audio
recording quality of the Pocket is quite a bit better than is the 
Olympus

DS-71, which I do have.

I find the Olympus, across a range of external mics does have a 
degree of
background hiss (preamp noise or circuit noise). This is the case 
when set

to wave recording and manual mic input levels.

Also, The Olympus doesn't actually have a line in, only a mic in 
port, so I
am curious about line in recording quality, and whether you are using 
an

attenuation cable to reduce the line in signal to mic levels?

That all said, I absolutely love my Olympus DS-71 in so many ways, 
and for
so many reasons: its  extraordinarily flexible and effective voice 
recording
capabilities, battery life and replaceable batteries, and especially 
its

super compact size makes it a take everywhere audio device.

Speaker monitoring of line in recordings, and audible recording level
feedback are features unique to the Plextalk recorders.

Regards
Tim

-Original Message-t
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of G-Dog
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:20 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again.

Agreed!

accessability is a very important factor but it doesn't equate to
performance.
I use the olympus DS-71 which does an excellent job for both mike and 
line

in recordings.
Yes, you can monitor through headphones.
I also like the fact that it uses AAA batteries that makes it easy to 
swap

them out if needed.

I hear the Edital R9 is also a nifty unit

G-Doggy-dog!
- Original Message - 
From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again.


That statement should probably be qualified: It may well be the most
excellent recording device in its class on the market, I couldn't say
but have no reason to believe otherwise, but there are better 
recording

devices on the market. Sweeping statements are dangerous.

Bruce


On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:56:11 -0500, Sunshine 
sunsh...@abe.midco.net

said:
I totally agree with you Dean, the plextalk pocket is the most 
exclent

recording device on the market these days.

- Original Message - 
From: dean martineau dea...@earthlink.net

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' 

Comparison of the Olympus DS-71 and the DM-520: RE: Digital recorders again - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71

2009-11-21 Thread Tim Noonan
Ok, re the DS-71 and the DM-520, , it is actually a tricky decision on one
hand, and a completely clear decision on the other. 

This is a very detailed post.

I have both units - which I am happy about, because as a conference speaker,
the DS-71 (like the DS-50) mic remote control and detachable mic option is
perfect for capturing my presentations. I can wire myself up, and just flick
the switch on the remote to start and stop recording - almost total
reliability that record has activated.

If, you have a DS-50, you can use its remote control and Mic with the DS-71.
You can not, however, use the DS-50 or DS-71 remote control on the DM-520!

The price I paid for the DS-71 was nearly double that of the DM-520, and in
many ways the DS-71 is an inferior product, using an older generation of
technology. I actually think someone stuffed up somewhere in releasing the
DS-71 when they did, it feels like a legacy product that was very delayed to
market.

Still speaking about the DS-71, the recording quality is pretty good, and
you do notice the Wave recording improvement over the DS50 and the WMA on
the DS-71.  However, it is not as good as the audio recording quality of the
DM-520, and has more noise floor and Mic preamp noise (I think).

In addition, the external stereo Microphone for the DS-71, though an
improvement on the DS-50 mic is definitely inferior to the in-built stereo
Mics of the DM-520, especially if you want to use any of the zoom recording
modes that The DS-71 offers. I don't actually believe that they fully tuned
the DS-71 mics for the Zoom technology. I would never use any of the zoom
options on the DS-71, but I do use them for some situations (especially
Narrow, and sometimes wide) on the DM-520.   

The narrow setting is good for keeping sounds localised, and the wide option
is good for spreading the left right mike pickup to catch several speakers
from a single location.

If you want to hear how the DM-520 Narrow zoom mic setting works in open air
situations, you can go to my CoffeeCast Conversations podcast at
http://coffeecast.posterous.com

Other advantages of the DS-71 are that it buffers key presses far better.
For flipping  back and forth between recordings in a folder, results are
better.  Also it doesn't exhibit the annoying audio click through the
speaker when you move to different recordings.  Both these problems with the
DM-520 are bugs, and I do hope a firmware release will address them, as they
do frustrate me, when using the DM-520 as a voice recorder.

Also, it is necessary, occasionally, to reboot the DM-520 to fix an
occasional bug where recording is flawed and choppy.  This means that
absolute trust of capturing a recording is somewhat compromised. Monitoring
important recordings with earphones is therefore useful.  I power the
machine off, and back on prior to doing interviews, where I can't afford to
lose quality of a recording. 

Finally, in complaint about the DM-520 is that I have stopped using the
supplied rechargeable batteries, as they were dying unexpectedly, even when
supposedly fully charged. I haven't had the time to fully track this problem
down, or do charge discharge cycling to see if the problem goes away. Not a
big problem for me, as I am happy to swap in regular AAA batteries before
important recordings.

The other relatively minor advantage of the DS-71 is that its size is
smaller than the DM-520 if you remove the stereo mic. They are equivalent
sized, when the external mic is attached. 

I still love the audio quality of memos recorded with the in-built mono mic
of the DS-71. You have to change your mic technique considerably with the
DM-520, so it isn't optimised for close mouth memoing, but mostly this
doesn't matter.

I think the DS-71 gives you 200 files for each of the five folders.  With
4gb, this may or may not work for you! I found this limitation a problem
once or twice.

On the DM-520 you get 999 files per folder, and if you add Micro SD card,
you then have ten folders to categorise stuff in to.

All that said, though, my DS-71 is sitting here on my desk, hardly used
since the new machine arrived, and my DM-520 is always in my pocket, ready
for any situation I need to make a note, or capture a meeting or
conversation.

In summary:

Unless you Really need the remote control, you will probably be best off
with the DM-520, it is a magic machine, accessibility is good and the price
is good for size, quality  and features . A few bugs, but only compared to
the elegant smooth operation of the DS-50 and DS-71 machines.

And, of course, you can still plug in an external tie clip Mic, you just
can't remote control it as conveniently.

Olympus do have a remote control for the DM-520, but this is expensive and
is wireless.

Hope this helps.

Regards
Tim
 
-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of tim
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 8:33 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: 

Re: Comparison of the Olympus DS-71 and the DM-520: RE: Digital recordersagain - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71

2009-11-21 Thread tim
cool now what about in my situation recording automobiles, people, indoors, 
outdoors etc will the dm520 be great for that? or is the ds71 a better 
option.  think I have made my decition, but want to be sure before I move 
forward.  thanks! much
- Original Message - 
From: Tim Noonan t...@timnoonan.com.au

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 21:28
Subject: Comparison of the Olympus DS-71 and the DM-520: RE: Digital 
recordersagain - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71




Ok, re the DS-71 and the DM-520, , it is actually a tricky decision on one
hand, and a completely clear decision on the other.

This is a very detailed post.

I have both units - which I am happy about, because as a conference 
speaker,

the DS-71 (like the DS-50) mic remote control and detachable mic option is
perfect for capturing my presentations. I can wire myself up, and just 
flick

the switch on the remote to start and stop recording - almost total
reliability that record has activated.

If, you have a DS-50, you can use its remote control and Mic with the 
DS-71.

You can not, however, use the DS-50 or DS-71 remote control on the DM-520!

The price I paid for the DS-71 was nearly double that of the DM-520, and 
in

many ways the DS-71 is an inferior product, using an older generation of
technology. I actually think someone stuffed up somewhere in releasing the
DS-71 when they did, it feels like a legacy product that was very delayed 
to

market.

Still speaking about the DS-71, the recording quality is pretty good, and
you do notice the Wave recording improvement over the DS50 and the WMA on
the DS-71.  However, it is not as good as the audio recording quality of 
the

DM-520, and has more noise floor and Mic preamp noise (I think).

In addition, the external stereo Microphone for the DS-71, though an
improvement on the DS-50 mic is definitely inferior to the in-built stereo
Mics of the DM-520, especially if you want to use any of the zoom 
recording
modes that The DS-71 offers. I don't actually believe that they fully 
tuned

the DS-71 mics for the Zoom technology. I would never use any of the zoom
options on the DS-71, but I do use them for some situations (especially
Narrow, and sometimes wide) on the DM-520.

The narrow setting is good for keeping sounds localised, and the wide 
option

is good for spreading the left right mike pickup to catch several speakers
from a single location.

If you want to hear how the DM-520 Narrow zoom mic setting works in open 
air

situations, you can go to my CoffeeCast Conversations podcast at
http://coffeecast.posterous.com

Other advantages of the DS-71 are that it buffers key presses far better.
For flipping  back and forth between recordings in a folder, results are
better.  Also it doesn't exhibit the annoying audio click through the
speaker when you move to different recordings.  Both these problems with 
the
DM-520 are bugs, and I do hope a firmware release will address them, as 
they

do frustrate me, when using the DM-520 as a voice recorder.

Also, it is necessary, occasionally, to reboot the DM-520 to fix an
occasional bug where recording is flawed and choppy.  This means that
absolute trust of capturing a recording is somewhat compromised. 
Monitoring

important recordings with earphones is therefore useful.  I power the
machine off, and back on prior to doing interviews, where I can't afford 
to

lose quality of a recording.

Finally, in complaint about the DM-520 is that I have stopped using the
supplied rechargeable batteries, as they were dying unexpectedly, even 
when
supposedly fully charged. I haven't had the time to fully track this 
problem
down, or do charge discharge cycling to see if the problem goes away. Not 
a

big problem for me, as I am happy to swap in regular AAA batteries before
important recordings.

The other relatively minor advantage of the DS-71 is that its size is
smaller than the DM-520 if you remove the stereo mic. They are equivalent
sized, when the external mic is attached.

I still love the audio quality of memos recorded with the in-built mono 
mic

of the DS-71. You have to change your mic technique considerably with the
DM-520, so it isn't optimised for close mouth memoing, but mostly this
doesn't matter.

I think the DS-71 gives you 200 files for each of the five folders.  With
4gb, this may or may not work for you! I found this limitation a problem
once or twice.

On the DM-520 you get 999 files per folder, and if you add Micro SD card,
you then have ten folders to categorise stuff in to.

All that said, though, my DS-71 is sitting here on my desk, hardly used
since the new machine arrived, and my DM-520 is always in my pocket, ready
for any situation I need to make a note, or capture a meeting or
conversation.

In summary:

Unless you Really need the remote control, you will probably be best off
with the DM-520, it is a magic machine, accessibility is good and the 
price

is good for 

RE: Comparison of the Olympus DS-71 and the DM-520: RE: Digitalrecordersagain - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71

2009-11-21 Thread Tim Noonan
The only reason you would go for the DS-71 over the DM520 is if you want to
always use it as a personal voice recorder, or you like the wired remote
control mic.

It is fare as a sound effects recorder, great for in-door and out-door voice
capture.

A Pocket with quality external mics, or another higher grade recorder that
isn't accessible will be better for full spectrum sound, but the DM-520 is
actually pretty good and definitely the best all-rounder for its size.

Tim
 

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of tim
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 2:56 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Comparison of the Olympus DS-71 and the DM-520: RE:
Digitalrecordersagain - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71

cool now what about in my situation recording automobiles, people, indoors, 
outdoors etc will the dm520 be great for that? or is the ds71 a better 
option.  think I have made my decition, but want to be sure before I move 
forward.  thanks! much
- Original Message - 
From: Tim Noonan t...@timnoonan.com.au
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 21:28
Subject: Comparison of the Olympus DS-71 and the DM-520: RE: Digital 
recordersagain - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71


 Ok, re the DS-71 and the DM-520, , it is actually a tricky decision on one
 hand, and a completely clear decision on the other.

 This is a very detailed post.

 I have both units - which I am happy about, because as a conference 
 speaker,
 the DS-71 (like the DS-50) mic remote control and detachable mic option is
 perfect for capturing my presentations. I can wire myself up, and just 
 flick
 the switch on the remote to start and stop recording - almost total
 reliability that record has activated.

 If, you have a DS-50, you can use its remote control and Mic with the 
 DS-71.
 You can not, however, use the DS-50 or DS-71 remote control on the DM-520!

 The price I paid for the DS-71 was nearly double that of the DM-520, and 
 in
 many ways the DS-71 is an inferior product, using an older generation of
 technology. I actually think someone stuffed up somewhere in releasing the
 DS-71 when they did, it feels like a legacy product that was very delayed 
 to
 market.

 Still speaking about the DS-71, the recording quality is pretty good, and
 you do notice the Wave recording improvement over the DS50 and the WMA on
 the DS-71.  However, it is not as good as the audio recording quality of 
 the
 DM-520, and has more noise floor and Mic preamp noise (I think).

 In addition, the external stereo Microphone for the DS-71, though an
 improvement on the DS-50 mic is definitely inferior to the in-built stereo
 Mics of the DM-520, especially if you want to use any of the zoom 
 recording
 modes that The DS-71 offers. I don't actually believe that they fully 
 tuned
 the DS-71 mics for the Zoom technology. I would never use any of the zoom
 options on the DS-71, but I do use them for some situations (especially
 Narrow, and sometimes wide) on the DM-520.

 The narrow setting is good for keeping sounds localised, and the wide 
 option
 is good for spreading the left right mike pickup to catch several speakers
 from a single location.

 If you want to hear how the DM-520 Narrow zoom mic setting works in open 
 air
 situations, you can go to my CoffeeCast Conversations podcast at
 http://coffeecast.posterous.com

 Other advantages of the DS-71 are that it buffers key presses far better.
 For flipping  back and forth between recordings in a folder, results are
 better.  Also it doesn't exhibit the annoying audio click through the
 speaker when you move to different recordings.  Both these problems with 
 the
 DM-520 are bugs, and I do hope a firmware release will address them, as 
 they
 do frustrate me, when using the DM-520 as a voice recorder.

 Also, it is necessary, occasionally, to reboot the DM-520 to fix an
 occasional bug where recording is flawed and choppy.  This means that
 absolute trust of capturing a recording is somewhat compromised. 
 Monitoring
 important recordings with earphones is therefore useful.  I power the
 machine off, and back on prior to doing interviews, where I can't afford 
 to
 lose quality of a recording.

 Finally, in complaint about the DM-520 is that I have stopped using the
 supplied rechargeable batteries, as they were dying unexpectedly, even 
 when
 supposedly fully charged. I haven't had the time to fully track this 
 problem
 down, or do charge discharge cycling to see if the problem goes away. Not 
 a
 big problem for me, as I am happy to swap in regular AAA batteries before
 important recordings.

 The other relatively minor advantage of the DS-71 is that its size is
 smaller than the DM-520 if you remove the stereo mic. They are equivalent
 sized, when the external mic is attached.

 I still love the audio quality of memos recorded with the in-built mono 
 mic
 of the DS-71. 

Re: Digital recorders again - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71

2009-11-21 Thread tim
another question, I here hte softer that you can get with the dm model and 
upgrade isn't accessible at all is this true?
- Original Message - 
From: Gary Schindler garys5...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 20:29
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71



I would go for the DM-520,
because you can split wave files and parcial erase them to! I think they 
will phase out the  DS-71 soon anyway.


- Original Message - 
From: tim isfe...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71



so not sure what one to get the ds71 is more expensive, but not sure
- Original Message - 
From: Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@sbcglobal.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 16:33
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71



Doesn't the dm-520 have a built-in stereo mic?
- Original Message - 
From: tim isfe...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71


hi all! am seriously debating between a ds71 and a dm520, only thing 
stopping me from the dm520 is the not included stereo mike like that 
comes with the ds71, also, is there any other recorders with 4 gig or 
grater copasity, built in speech and a mike or 2 included with the 
product? thanks for help!
- Original Message - 
From: Lauren lotusris...@att.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 6:48
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus 
DS-71




Hi,

Can someone please talk about the cost f these items? I am looking for 
a digital recorder that you can take anywhere, that has a good sound 
quality, but that is also affordable. I am on a budget.




Sincerely,

Lauren
- Original Message - 
From: Tim Noonan t...@timnoonan.com.au

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 7:35 PM
Subject: RE: Digital recorders again - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus 
DS-71



I would guess, in the  absence of no hard comparative data, that the 
audio
recording quality of the Pocket is quite a bit better than is the 
Olympus

DS-71, which I do have.

I find the Olympus, across a range of external mics does have a 
degree of
background hiss (preamp noise or circuit noise). This is the case 
when set

to wave recording and manual mic input levels.

Also, The Olympus doesn't actually have a line in, only a mic in 
port, so I
am curious about line in recording quality, and whether you are using 
an

attenuation cable to reduce the line in signal to mic levels?

That all said, I absolutely love my Olympus DS-71 in so many ways, 
and for
so many reasons: its  extraordinarily flexible and effective voice 
recording
capabilities, battery life and replaceable batteries, and especially 
its

super compact size makes it a take everywhere audio device.

Speaker monitoring of line in recordings, and audible recording level
feedback are features unique to the Plextalk recorders.

Regards
Tim

-Original Message-t
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of G-Dog
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:20 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again.

Agreed!

accessability is a very important factor but it doesn't equate to
performance.
I use the olympus DS-71 which does an excellent job for both mike and 
line

in recordings.
Yes, you can monitor through headphones.
I also like the fact that it uses AAA batteries that makes it easy to 
swap

them out if needed.

I hear the Edital R9 is also a nifty unit

G-Doggy-dog!
- Original Message - 
From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again.


That statement should probably be qualified: It may well be the most
excellent recording device in its class on the market, I couldn't say
but have no reason to believe otherwise, but there are better 
recording

devices on the market. Sweeping statements are dangerous.

Bruce


On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:56:11 -0500, Sunshine 
sunsh...@abe.midco.net

said:
I totally agree with you Dean, the plextalk pocket is the most 
exclent

recording device on the market these days.

- Original Message - 
From: dean martineau dea...@earthlink.net

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:36 PM
Subject: RE: Digital recorders again.


What I know is that the PlexTalk Pocket is totally accessible, 
nicely
packaged, has both manual and automatic level control, and does a 
very

nice
job of recording 

Re: Comparison of the Olympus DS-71 and the DM-520: RE:Digitalrecordersagain - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71

2009-11-21 Thread tim
one quick question then I am ordering! monday morning at 9, the price on the 
page says $149, when you get to the cart, it says $199 whats up with that? 
thanks all this greatly! appriciated as it is to be ordered in less then 48 
hours!
- Original Message - 
From: Tim Noonan t...@timnoonan.com.au

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 22:01
Subject: RE: Comparison of the Olympus DS-71 and the DM-520: 
RE:Digitalrecordersagain - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71



The only reason you would go for the DS-71 over the DM520 is if you want 
to

always use it as a personal voice recorder, or you like the wired remote
control mic.

It is fare as a sound effects recorder, great for in-door and out-door 
voice

capture.

A Pocket with quality external mics, or another higher grade recorder that
isn't accessible will be better for full spectrum sound, but the DM-520 is
actually pretty good and definitely the best all-rounder for its size.

Tim


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of tim
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 2:56 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Comparison of the Olympus DS-71 and the DM-520: RE:
Digitalrecordersagain - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71

cool now what about in my situation recording automobiles, people, 
indoors,

outdoors etc will the dm520 be great for that? or is the ds71 a better
option.  think I have made my decition, but want to be sure before I move
forward.  thanks! much
- Original Message - 
From: Tim Noonan t...@timnoonan.com.au

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 21:28
Subject: Comparison of the Olympus DS-71 and the DM-520: RE: Digital
recordersagain - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71


Ok, re the DS-71 and the DM-520, , it is actually a tricky decision on 
one

hand, and a completely clear decision on the other.

This is a very detailed post.

I have both units - which I am happy about, because as a conference
speaker,
the DS-71 (like the DS-50) mic remote control and detachable mic option 
is

perfect for capturing my presentations. I can wire myself up, and just
flick
the switch on the remote to start and stop recording - almost total
reliability that record has activated.

If, you have a DS-50, you can use its remote control and Mic with the
DS-71.
You can not, however, use the DS-50 or DS-71 remote control on the 
DM-520!


The price I paid for the DS-71 was nearly double that of the DM-520, and
in
many ways the DS-71 is an inferior product, using an older generation of
technology. I actually think someone stuffed up somewhere in releasing 
the

DS-71 when they did, it feels like a legacy product that was very delayed
to
market.

Still speaking about the DS-71, the recording quality is pretty good, and
you do notice the Wave recording improvement over the DS50 and the WMA on
the DS-71.  However, it is not as good as the audio recording quality of
the
DM-520, and has more noise floor and Mic preamp noise (I think).

In addition, the external stereo Microphone for the DS-71, though an
improvement on the DS-50 mic is definitely inferior to the in-built 
stereo

Mics of the DM-520, especially if you want to use any of the zoom
recording
modes that The DS-71 offers. I don't actually believe that they fully
tuned
the DS-71 mics for the Zoom technology. I would never use any of the zoom
options on the DS-71, but I do use them for some situations (especially
Narrow, and sometimes wide) on the DM-520.

The narrow setting is good for keeping sounds localised, and the wide
option
is good for spreading the left right mike pickup to catch several 
speakers

from a single location.

If you want to hear how the DM-520 Narrow zoom mic setting works in open
air
situations, you can go to my CoffeeCast Conversations podcast at
http://coffeecast.posterous.com

Other advantages of the DS-71 are that it buffers key presses far better.
For flipping  back and forth between recordings in a folder, results are
better.  Also it doesn't exhibit the annoying audio click through the
speaker when you move to different recordings.  Both these problems with
the
DM-520 are bugs, and I do hope a firmware release will address them, as
they
do frustrate me, when using the DM-520 as a voice recorder.

Also, it is necessary, occasionally, to reboot the DM-520 to fix an
occasional bug where recording is flawed and choppy.  This means that
absolute trust of capturing a recording is somewhat compromised.
Monitoring
important recordings with earphones is therefore useful.  I power the
machine off, and back on prior to doing interviews, where I can't afford
to
lose quality of a recording.

Finally, in complaint about the DM-520 is that I have stopped using the
supplied rechargeable batteries, as they were dying unexpectedly, even
when
supposedly fully charged. I haven't had the time to fully track this
problem