RE: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump theheadphone socket | DailyMail Online

[Hamit Campos]

Yeah agreed with that. But this other person and sorry I can't remember his
name seems to be going for the selfish pigs, they just want more and more
money school of thought. But you already gave an epic reply with your other
emails. I'm just saying that he's going for the attitude that they are doing
it for money alone. Be dambed any one who chooses to be left behind. Which
I'm not bashing that attitude at all. I wish Cyber Link would give more of a
care for the blind with Power DVD. But oh well, Se La Vi. For now anyways.
The NFB ain't getting all worked yup about it so what can be done?

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 3:39 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump theheadphone socket | DailyMail
Online

Of course that's what all these company's are in the game for and it keeps
people in jobs too but in the end the whole idea is to give the people or
market rather a better product, the better and more likable the product then
the more are sold.


On 12/03/2016 1:26 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
> Well as Glenn Beck says that's the point of capitalism to make as much 
> dough as you can. Just saying that yes you're correct.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Peter Scanlon
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 2:34 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump theheadphone socket | 
> DailyMail Online
>
> I think they just care about making money. Just like people said about 
> Microsoft.
>
>
> From: André van Deventer
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 5:49 PM
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: SV: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump theheadphone socket | 
> DailyMail Online
>
> Exactly
>
> How are you supposed to connect something like a neck induction loop 
> to such a device?
>
> Yes some of the rolls Royce hearing aids have wireless connectivity 
> but very few people have the money to purchase them.
>
> But I suppose this segment of the market is so small that Apple does 
> not really care.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: 10 March 2016 11:50 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: SV: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | 
> DailyMail Online
>
> The problem with all this forward thinking is that it leaves the 
> hearing impaired out. Jonathan Mosen has done some very good writing on
this topic.
> I personally have the equipment to deal with the loss of the headphone
jack.
> But in thinking of what it will mean for others, I think it is a 
> stupid idea at this time and, if it is just to make the damned phone a 
> hair thinner, it is clearly not worth it and is just another  money-making
angle for Apple.
> But this one is coming at the expense of a fairly  large and growing 
> segment of the population.
>
> Mary
>
>
>
>
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RE: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump theheadphone socket | DailyMail Online

[Hamit Campos]

Right. They had to make Windows hookable so screen readaers can latch on.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 3:41 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump theheadphone socket | DailyMail
Online

Yep and look how wrong people were about Microsoft, if it weren't for
Microsoft then you wouldn't be using your computer.



On 11/03/2016 6:33 PM, Peter Scanlon wrote:
> I think they just care about making money. Just like people said about
Microsoft.
>
>
> From: André van Deventer
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 5:49 PM
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: SV: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump theheadphone socket |
DailyMail Online
>
> Exactly
>
> How are you supposed to connect something like a neck induction loop to
such
> a device?
>
> Yes some of the rolls Royce hearing aids have wireless connectivity but
very
> few people have the money to purchase them.
>
> But I suppose this segment of the market is so small that Apple does not
> really care.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
> Otten
> Sent: 10 March 2016 11:50 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: SV: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |
> DailyMail Online
>
> The problem with all this forward thinking is that it leaves the hearing
> impaired out. Jonathan Mosen has done some very good writing on this
topic.
> I personally have the equipment to deal with the loss of the headphone
jack.
> But in thinking of what it will mean for others, I think it is a stupid
idea
> at this time and, if it is just to make the damned phone a hair thinner,
it
> is clearly not worth it and is just another  money-making angle for Apple.
> But this one is coming at the expense of a fairly  large and growing
segment
> of the population.
>
> Mary
>
>
>
>
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Re: strange vlc issue need some one to test

[Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona]

here is the link to the file
was unaware of the attachments on list serve thank you for letting me know
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1876602/darkmatter.aac.m3u
On 3/11/2016 8:16 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
You're far better off using links to Dropbox, Sendspace and so on 
rahter than trying to send attachments to lists, the list server may 
block them for one thing or email clients may block them, I know mine 
blocks them from list traffic.




On 12/03/2016 2:10 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:

strange
will reattach it to the email also below is a dropbox link that I 
created in case if the attachment doesn't come threw

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1876602/darkmatter.aac.m3u
On 3/11/2016 8:06 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
Hank:  Just so you know...the attachment apparently didn't come 
through; not

at least on my end!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hank
Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 9:31 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: strange vlc issue need some one to test

Hello
am running in to a weird vlc player issue
I am trying to get vlc to play the following m3u playlist wich I am
attaching to this email
it loads up perfictly even the info on what is playing but no sound yes
I checked audio settings other streams play perfictly except that
perticular stream and heres the kicker I load the m3u playlist in other
media players, winamp, foobar 2000
media player classic and all play the streams except vlc.
can any one shed some lite on this?
  its driving me nuts
thanks
Hank

Re: recording using apple ear pods on windows?

[Dane Trethowan]

good question and I'd say that you probably can't given the Apple 3.5MM 
jack that the Apple Earbuds use is not standard.




On 12/03/2016 1:50 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:
Hello is there a way that I can record using the mic on apple ear 
pods? if so how do I accomplish thi?s

thanks
Hank



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Re: strange vlc issue need some one to test

[Dane Trethowan]

You're far better off using links to Dropbox, Sendspace and so on rahter 
than trying to send attachments to lists, the list server may block them 
for one thing or email clients may block them, I know mine blocks them 
from list traffic.




On 12/03/2016 2:10 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:

strange
will reattach it to the email also below is a dropbox link that I 
created in case if the attachment doesn't come threw

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1876602/darkmatter.aac.m3u
On 3/11/2016 8:06 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
Hank:  Just so you know...the attachment apparently didn't come 
through; not

at least on my end!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hank
Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 9:31 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: strange vlc issue need some one to test

Hello
am running in to a weird vlc player issue
I am trying to get vlc to play the following m3u playlist wich I am
attaching to this email
it loads up perfictly even the info on what is playing but no sound yes
I checked audio settings other streams play perfictly except that
perticular stream and heres the kicker I load the m3u playlist in other
media players, winamp, foobar 2000
media player classic and all play the streams except vlc.
can any one shed some lite on this?
  its driving me nuts
thanks
Hank






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Re: strange vlc issue need some one to test

[Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona]

strange
will reattach it to the email also below is a dropbox link that I 
created in case if the attachment doesn't come threw

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1876602/darkmatter.aac.m3u
On 3/11/2016 8:06 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote:

Hank:  Just so you know...the attachment apparently didn't come through; not
at least on my end!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hank
Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 9:31 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: strange vlc issue need some one to test

Hello
am running in to a weird vlc player issue
I am trying to get vlc to play the following m3u playlist wich I am
attaching to this email
it loads up perfictly even the info on what is playing but no sound yes
I checked audio settings other streams play perfictly except that
perticular stream and heres the kicker I load the m3u playlist in other
media players, winamp, foobar 2000
media player classic and all play the streams except vlc.
can any one shed some lite on this?
  its driving me nuts
thanks
Hank

RE: strange vlc issue need some one to test

[Tom Kaufman]

Hank:  Just so you know...the attachment apparently didn't come through; not
at least on my end!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hank
Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 9:31 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: strange vlc issue need some one to test

Hello
am running in to a weird vlc player issue
I am trying to get vlc to play the following m3u playlist wich I am 
attaching to this email
it loads up perfictly even the info on what is playing but no sound yes 
I checked audio settings other streams play perfictly except that 
perticular stream and heres the kicker I load the m3u playlist in other 
media players, winamp, foobar 2000
media player classic and all play the streams except vlc.
can any one shed some lite on this?
 its driving me nuts
thanks
Hank

recording using apple ear pods on windows?

[Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona]

Hello is there a way that I can record using the mic on apple ear 
pods? if so how do I accomplish thi?s

thanks
Hank

apple music in windows?He

[Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona]

llo how do I access the apple music using itunes and windows7?
when ever I try to search for a song it thinks that I am wanting to 
purchase the tracks from the apple itunes store

how do I tell itunes to use apple music instead of wanting me to purchase?
I can access it fine on my android but want to get it up and running 
using itunes.
can some one please give me a step by step instructions on how to get 
started with this using itunes? I can't seem to figure it out.

thanks
Hank

strange vlc issue need some one to test

[Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona]

Hello
am running in to a weird vlc player issue
I am trying to get vlc to play the following m3u playlist wich I am 
attaching to this email
it loads up perfictly even the info on what is playing but no sound yes 
I checked audio settings other streams play perfictly except that 
perticular stream and heres the kicker I load the m3u playlist in other 
media players, winamp, foobar 2000

media player classic and all play the streams except vlc.
can any one shed some lite on this?
its driving me nuts
thanks
Hank

Re: SV: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | DailyMail Online

[Dane Trethowan]

Okay well Bluetooth is certainly not in the luxury hearing instruments, 
its common place in hearing isntruments now as other technologies are 
being fazed out such as induction.


I've been using Bluetooth hearing instruments now for over 6 years, they 
were bolky affairs at first requiring a whole heap of connection boxes 
and adapters but now? Well the typical hearing instruments have 
Bluetooth built right into them ready and raring to go.


Other wireless technologies can be used with hearing instruments when 
Bluetooth isn't the answer.


As far as Apple not caring about Hearing Instruments? May I suggest you 
read the documents on the Web that talk in detail about the commitment 
and consideration Apple has given to the users of Hearing Instruments, 
Deaf and Deaf-blind people.


I should also point out that we in Australia are extremely fortunate at 
present when it comes to hearing instruments as those on a low income 
can have their hearing instruments funded which I did at one time though 
I've since moved to a private fitter as there is obviously more choice 
available.




On 11/03/2016 5:49 PM, André van Deventer wrote:

Exactly

How are you supposed to connect something like a neck induction loop to such
a device?

Yes some of the rolls Royce hearing aids have wireless connectivity but very
few people have the money to purchase them.

But I suppose this segment of the market is so small that Apple does not
really care.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
Otten
Sent: 10 March 2016 11:50 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: SV: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |
DailyMail Online

The problem with all this forward thinking is that it leaves the hearing
impaired out. Jonathan Mosen has done some very good writing on this topic.
I personally have the equipment to deal with the loss of the headphone jack.
But in thinking of what it will mean for others, I think it is a stupid idea
at this time and, if it is just to make the damned phone a hair thinner, it
is clearly not worth it and is just another  money-making angle for Apple.
But this one is coming at the expense of a fairly  large and growing segment
of the population.

Mary




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Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump theheadphone socket | DailyMail Online

[Dane Trethowan]

Yep and look how wrong people were about Microsoft, if it weren't for 
Microsoft then you wouldn't be using your computer.




On 11/03/2016 6:33 PM, Peter Scanlon wrote:

I think they just care about making money. Just like people said about 
Microsoft.


From: André van Deventer
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 5:49 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: SV: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump theheadphone socket | DailyMail 
Online

Exactly

How are you supposed to connect something like a neck induction loop to such
a device?

Yes some of the rolls Royce hearing aids have wireless connectivity but very
few people have the money to purchase them.

But I suppose this segment of the market is so small that Apple does not
really care.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
Otten
Sent: 10 March 2016 11:50 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: SV: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |
DailyMail Online

The problem with all this forward thinking is that it leaves the hearing
impaired out. Jonathan Mosen has done some very good writing on this topic.
I personally have the equipment to deal with the loss of the headphone jack.
But in thinking of what it will mean for others, I think it is a stupid idea
at this time and, if it is just to make the damned phone a hair thinner, it
is clearly not worth it and is just another  money-making angle for Apple.
But this one is coming at the expense of a fairly  large and growing segment
of the population.

Mary




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Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump theheadphone socket | DailyMail Online

[Dane Trethowan]

Of course that's what all these company's are in the game for and it 
keeps people in jobs too but in the end the whole idea is to give the 
people or market rather a better product, the better and more likable 
the product then the more are sold.



On 12/03/2016 1:26 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:

Well as Glenn Beck says that's the point of capitalism to make as much dough
as you can. Just saying that yes you're correct.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Peter
Scanlon
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 2:34 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump theheadphone socket | DailyMail
Online

I think they just care about making money. Just like people said about
Microsoft.


From: André van Deventer
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 5:49 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: SV: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump theheadphone socket |
DailyMail Online

Exactly

How are you supposed to connect something like a neck induction loop to such
a device?

Yes some of the rolls Royce hearing aids have wireless connectivity but very
few people have the money to purchase them.

But I suppose this segment of the market is so small that Apple does not
really care.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
Otten
Sent: 10 March 2016 11:50 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: SV: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |
DailyMail Online

The problem with all this forward thinking is that it leaves the hearing
impaired out. Jonathan Mosen has done some very good writing on this topic.
I personally have the equipment to deal with the loss of the headphone jack.
But in thinking of what it will mean for others, I think it is a stupid idea
at this time and, if it is just to make the damned phone a hair thinner, it
is clearly not worth it and is just another  money-making angle for Apple.
But this one is coming at the expense of a fairly  large and growing segment
of the population.

Mary




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Re: Set Top Box MINIX Neo X8 Further Progress

[Dane Trethowan]

Yep and that's just it, how to issue that gesture when you're not using 
a touch screen? I think I can import labels somehow by the look of 
things so - if that can be done - then that's the way I'll go but its 
not a crucial issue for the Media Center App, I've used so many CD 
players in my life that I know the order of the basic transport layout 
by heart and its emulated with the transport controls in Media Center.


For example on the very left you have previous track, then previous 10 
seconds, play/pause, skip 10 seconds, next track, play mode and then volume.




On 12/03/2016 1:47 AM, Rick Alfaro wrote:

There is definitely a labeling function within TalkBack but unfortunately, I 
can't remember what the gesture was. Try and find the latest docs for TalkBack 
with a Google search and I'm certain you will find tha that gesture along with 
several other useful ones. I don't use Android enough to have any of these 
memorized.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 6:08 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Set Top Box MINIX Neo X8 Further Progress

Okay, I received the box 2 days ago, had a very short play with the box
Yesterday morning and a longer exploration a few hours ago.

I'm surprised at just how accessible Android on this box is and I've
been able to access and use many of the features with just the remote
controller though a keyboard - whether it be Bluetooth or USB - is
certainly a handy adition at times particularly when it comes to
entering Passwords and the like.

I'm not saying that entering Passwords isn't impossible to do with the
remote controller I just haven't found out how its doen yet if indeed it
can be done, when on the keyboard with the remote control nothing seems
to speak with Talkback so I might try Shine and see if that makes any
difference.

So having everything set up to my liking it was time to have a look at
playing media with this box which is precisely what I bought it for and
lookign round the selection of preinstalled Apps I discovered a Media
Center App.

The App seems to be quite a versatile one, I've not gone into it
thoroughly but it would appear that you can stream from - play media to
another device from the box - or stream to - take media from a server or
another device and stream it to the box - using DLNA and Airplay, didn't
get the Airplay functions to work but the DLNA functions were easy
enough to set, I continued listening to the 26 Hours serial through the
MINIX Neo X8 which was connected to my Bose Soundlink Mini via Bluetooth.

Unfortunatley the buttons in the player of Media Center aren't labeled
but they're arranged in a logical order so if you're familiar with the
buttons on a CD player than you'll know exactly where the previous,
play/pause and next buttons are so this bets the question is there any
way to creat labels for Talkback to identify these buttons and import
them onto the MINIX Neo X8?




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RE: Set Top Box MINIX Neo X8 Further Progress

[Rick Alfaro]

There is definitely a labeling function within TalkBack but unfortunately, I 
can't remember what the gesture was. Try and find the latest docs for TalkBack 
with a Google search and I'm certain you will find tha that gesture along with 
several other useful ones. I don't use Android enough to have any of these 
memorized.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 6:08 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Set Top Box MINIX Neo X8 Further Progress

Okay, I received the box 2 days ago, had a very short play with the box 
Yesterday morning and a longer exploration a few hours ago.

I'm surprised at just how accessible Android on this box is and I've 
been able to access and use many of the features with just the remote 
controller though a keyboard - whether it be Bluetooth or USB - is 
certainly a handy adition at times particularly when it comes to 
entering Passwords and the like.

I'm not saying that entering Passwords isn't impossible to do with the 
remote controller I just haven't found out how its doen yet if indeed it 
can be done, when on the keyboard with the remote control nothing seems 
to speak with Talkback so I might try Shine and see if that makes any 
difference.

So having everything set up to my liking it was time to have a look at 
playing media with this box which is precisely what I bought it for and 
lookign round the selection of preinstalled Apps I discovered a Media 
Center App.

The App seems to be quite a versatile one, I've not gone into it 
thoroughly but it would appear that you can stream from - play media to 
another device from the box - or stream to - take media from a server or 
another device and stream it to the box - using DLNA and Airplay, didn't 
get the Airplay functions to work but the DLNA functions were easy 
enough to set, I continued listening to the 26 Hours serial through the 
MINIX Neo X8 which was connected to my Bose Soundlink Mini via Bluetooth.

Unfortunatley the buttons in the player of Media Center aren't labeled 
but they're arranged in a logical order so if you're familiar with the 
buttons on a CD player than you'll know exactly where the previous, 
play/pause and next buttons are so this bets the question is there any 
way to creat labels for Talkback to identify these buttons and import 
them onto the MINIX Neo X8?


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RE: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump theheadphone socket | DailyMail Online

[Hamit Campos]

Well as Glenn Beck says that's the point of capitalism to make as much dough
as you can. Just saying that yes you're correct.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Peter
Scanlon
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 2:34 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump theheadphone socket | DailyMail
Online

I think they just care about making money. Just like people said about
Microsoft.


From: André van Deventer
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 5:49 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' 
Subject: RE: SV: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump theheadphone socket |
DailyMail Online

Exactly

How are you supposed to connect something like a neck induction loop to such
a device?

Yes some of the rolls Royce hearing aids have wireless connectivity but very
few people have the money to purchase them.

But I suppose this segment of the market is so small that Apple does not
really care.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
Otten
Sent: 10 March 2016 11:50 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: SV: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |
DailyMail Online

The problem with all this forward thinking is that it leaves the hearing
impaired out. Jonathan Mosen has done some very good writing on this topic.
I personally have the equipment to deal with the loss of the headphone jack.
But in thinking of what it will mean for others, I think it is a stupid idea
at this time and, if it is just to make the damned phone a hair thinner, it
is clearly not worth it and is just another  money-making angle for Apple.
But this one is coming at the expense of a fairly  large and growing segment
of the population.

Mary




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Re: Portable Hifi Players.

[Dane Trethowan]

Not necessarily as you may find that - depending on how much you spend - you’ll 
need a portable DAC for your HD Player too - assuming of course that the player 
you buy is indeed capable of using one in the first place -.

Like everything else HD Players aren’t equal and then you get the problem of 
the higher quality one’s being less user friendly.


> On 11 Mar 2016, at 9:40 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I guess a portable player is more than a portable dac too.
> Sadly i am out of range for a good dac now so i will have to wait until i can 
> afford one.
> /A
>> On 11 Mar 2016, at 11:34, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, there’s a whole world of them out there though I’ve never tried one for 
>> the very reason you’ve suggested actually given that phones are accessible 
>> and - if you buy the right phone along with a DAC - you can have exactly 
>> what a HD Music Player offers you and even more obviously.
>> 
>> surprising a lot of the ti
>> 
>>> On 11 Mar 2016, at 9:28 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Talking of audio quality on phones and such i came to think of those 
>>> portable players for Hifi music.
>>> I can’t say whether they’re accessible or not but they might be something 
>>> to consider if you want good quality when you’re on the go.
>>> I actually made a test by mistake.
>>> I was listening on the Iphone with headphones and then i moved over to my 
>>> Victor Stream 2 and listened.
>>> Not at the same peace of audio but found a difference in audio quality.
>>> I don’t know if this is just halucination or if its the case but i find the 
>>> Iphone not playing audio or presenting audio as good as other devices i 
>>> have.
>>> I mean via headphones.
>>> It would be intresting to hear what others may think of all things i’ve 
>>> written in this quite long message.
>>> /A
>> 
>> **
>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
>> halfwits in this world behind.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.

Re: Portable Hifi Players.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I guess a portable player is more than a portable dac too.
Sadly i am out of range for a good dac now so i will have to wait until i can 
afford one.
/A
> On 11 Mar 2016, at 11:34, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> 
> Yes, there’s a whole world of them out there though I’ve never tried one for 
> the very reason you’ve suggested actually given that phones are accessible 
> and - if you buy the right phone along with a DAC - you can have exactly what 
> a HD Music Player offers you and even more obviously.
> 
> surprising a lot of the ti
> 
>> On 11 Mar 2016, at 9:28 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Talking of audio quality on phones and such i came to think of those 
>> portable players for Hifi music.
>> I can’t say whether they’re accessible or not but they might be something to 
>> consider if you want good quality when you’re on the go.
>> I actually made a test by mistake.
>> I was listening on the Iphone with headphones and then i moved over to my 
>> Victor Stream 2 and listened.
>> Not at the same peace of audio but found a difference in audio quality.
>> I don’t know if this is just halucination or if its the case but i find the 
>> Iphone not playing audio or presenting audio as good as other devices i have.
>> I mean via headphones.
>> It would be intresting to hear what others may think of all things i’ve 
>> written in this quite long message.
>> /A
> 
> **
> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
> halfwits in this world behind.
> 
> 
> 

Re: Portable Hifi Players.

[Dane Trethowan]

Yes, there’s a whole world of them out there though I’ve never tried one for 
the very reason you’ve suggested actually given that phones are accessible and 
- if you buy the right phone along with a DAC - you can have exactly what a HD 
Music Player offers you and even more obviously.

surprising a lot of the ti

> On 11 Mar 2016, at 9:28 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Talking of audio quality on phones and such i came to think of those portable 
> players for Hifi music.
> I can’t say whether they’re accessible or not but they might be something to 
> consider if you want good quality when you’re on the go.
> I actually made a test by mistake.
> I was listening on the Iphone with headphones and then i moved over to my 
> Victor Stream 2 and listened.
> Not at the same peace of audio but found a difference in audio quality.
> I don’t know if this is just halucination or if its the case but i find the 
> Iphone not playing audio or presenting audio as good as other devices i have.
> I mean via headphones.
> It would be intresting to hear what others may think of all things i’ve 
> written in this quite long message.
> /A

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.

Portable Hifi Players.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Talking of audio quality on phones and such i came to think of those portable 
players for Hifi music.
I can’t say whether they’re accessible or not but they might be something to 
consider if you want good quality when you’re on the go.
I actually made a test by mistake.
I was listening on the Iphone with headphones and then i moved over to my 
Victor Stream 2 and listened.
Not at the same peace of audio but found a difference in audio quality.
I don’t know if this is just halucination or if its the case but i find the 
Iphone not playing audio or presenting audio as good as other devices i have.
I mean via headphones.
It would be intresting to hear what others may think of all things i’ve written 
in this quite long message.
/A