RE: bass shakers

[Hamit Campos]

H if you're talking about the things that are for home theater that
supposedly when you're watching say Jurasic park or a Godzilla movie is
supposed to vibrate your chare? I don't know. They should be pretty good
though as they are for theater use. They are meant for movies. Just be care
full cause they apparently according to Scott Wilkinson can make ya feel
funny. He calls them but shakers. He doesn't like them. But that's Scott. I
personally haven't tried them so I don't know. I'd probably try it if the
chance presents it self to before buying 1 just to see. Also if what Scott
had happen to him to also see if it doesn't make you feel weerd like it did
to him. But that's the idea. How effective it is I don't know. But actually
it might be kinda curious to try 1.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of André van
Deventer
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 4:12 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: bass shakers

Hi all

 

Has anyone ever tried one of these devices and would it amplify bass
frequencies of music say from below hundred herz so that you will be able to
feel it?  I do not have these frequencies anymore and am wondering if you
will be able to actually distinguish musical notes through them or are they
not accurate enough?

 

Hope this makes sense!!

 

André

RE: The MM 550 was replaced with the very much superior PXC 550 Travel headphones. Re: Bluetooth Headset

[Hamit Campos]

H sounds like from Dane's message here that according to the review it 
could be like a touch strip. It could also be lack of pacience from the 
reviewer too. I mean if we're gonna talk about tricky, the play pawze and skip 
back and fourth thing with the middle button of a controller on either Ear Pods 
or my Bose OE2I can get tricky. You've got to do it just right. Or it won't 
work.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 9:46 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: The MM 550 was replaced with the very much superior PXC 550 Travel 
headphones. Re: Bluetooth Headset

I've just read a review on these and they would be an unmitigated disaster for 
anyone who is blind to use.

Firstly the review clearly states that the touch panels - these cans have two - 
need to be controlled with precise movement and mistakes are easily made so - 
if someone with sight is having trouble - just imagine what it would be like 
for someone who is totally blind?

The command activated by the gesture is voiced and the reviewer made mention of 
how frustrating he found it when he say gestured for the volume to be made 
louder only to discover that he'd skipped to the next track in his music 
collection, not too pleasant I would think.

The user also has to make gestures when answering incoming phone calls from the 
mobile, need i say any more.

Far superior? Well both these headphones and the MM550X have AptX for 
Bluetooth, I've had the MM550X and - whilst they have a few design faults and 
the noise cancelling isn't as good as it perhaps could be - I've not been 
disappointed.

Noice scance3lling is something I've never bothered about anyway myself.



On 6/09/2016 4:23 PM, Tim Noonan wrote:
> I've been using the Sennheiser PXC 550 Bluetooth travel headphones for a 
> month or so now (they have just been released) and they are amazingly good.
>
> They supersede the MM 550 phones that have been out for a couple of years now 
> with vastly improved noise reduction, superb audio quality, comfort and 
> features.
>
> The right ear cup has a touch surface for gestures for increasing and 
> decreasing volume, skipping tracks, pausing, voice dial and voice-through 
> facilities.
>
> Connection is Bluetooth 4.2 with ApdX. they come with a detachable 3.5ml 
> cable or they act as a sound card when connected to a computer via USB cable 
> supporting 48k at 16 bits.
>
> They use the same drivers as do the Momentum 2.0 Wireless and fold flat for 
> travel. You turn them on by placing them on your head and when you fold the 
> ear cups flat, they power off.
>
> The multiple mics enable fantastic call quality for speaker and listener and 
> you hear yourself and the caller as if you were both in the same room, making 
> quiet comfortable conversation very easy and natural.
>
> The Mics also do an excellent job picking up only your voice and ignoring the 
> other voices and sounds around you.
>
> The noise cancellation is considered very good overall, but not at par with 
> the NR in the Bose QC35s.
>
> An app for Android and iOS is available to tune the frequency response of the 
> headphones, but this is not well designed and on IOS is not accessible. I 
> haven't tested the app under Android.
>
> The PXC 550 Sound is reported to be significantly superior to the Bose QC 35s 
> and has tight but not overly intense bass. They have a frequency response up 
> to 23 KHZ  and excellent stereo separation and instrument isolation.
>
> Some non-audiofile reviewers have said they prefer the more defined sound 
> from the Momentum 2.0 wireless, others who have reviewed the PXC 550s more 
> extensively rate the sound more highly. Sennheiser say that the Momentums 
> have a more defined sound to be heard in city travel, whereas the noise 
> cancellation improvements on the PXC 550 mean they can produce a flatter more 
> accurate response  without outside noise interfering with their excellent 
> sound reproduction.
>
> I'm extremely particular about my sound, and these are magnificent for a wide 
> range of music listening - but if you like over-emphasised bass, they 
> probably won't be a good match for you.
>
> Comfort is excellent and battery life ranges from 20-30 hours on a charge, 
> depending on whether bluetooth is enabled.
>
> They are high-end at $399 USD or around $625 AUD.
>
> I haven't had opportunity to listen to the B & W P7s, but they have just 
> announced a Bluetooth-capable version of these. Time will tell  which has the 
> better sound, but for on-the-go listening plus Noise Cancellation, the PXC 
> 550 are an excellent all-rounder option.
>
> On 6 Sep 2016, at 3:05 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I received a pair of Sehheiser MM550X cans today and I’m suitably impressed 
> though everything isn’t roses with this system, there’s nothing much to 
> 

RE: The MM 550 was replaced with the very much superior PXC 550 Travel headphones. Re: Bluetooth Headset

[Hamit Campos]

Right Tim. There's no app. It's like spinning your finger to turn up the old 
IPod Nanno. On the subject of touch though things like the touch strip on the 
Toshiba lap top could get confusing. I had 1 and yes I kinda learned some of 
the things where on this touch strip where they were. But there was always the 
chance you could hit something else.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tim Noonan
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 9:58 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: The MM 550 was replaced with the very much superior PXC 550 Travel 
headphones. Re: Bluetooth Headset

Hmmm,

since sighted people can't see their ears, how do you think they use the touch 
surface?

They use touch.

They are totally usable by sighted and blind people.

Why would a blind person be less able to move their finger up or down or left 
or right than a sighted person?

They also sound exceptional in my view.

As I mentioned in an earlier post, though, the tuning app is not accessible, 
but I have found no need for its use.


On 21 Sep 2016, at 11:45 AM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:

I've just read a review on these and they would be an unmitigated disaster for 
anyone who is blind to use.

Firstly the review clearly states that the touch panels - these cans have two - 
need to be controlled with precise movement and mistakes are easily made so - 
if someone with sight is having trouble - just imagine what it would be like 
for someone who is totally blind?

The command activated by the gesture is voiced and the reviewer made mention of 
how frustrating he found it when he say gestured for the volume to be made 
louder only to discover that he'd skipped to the next track in his music 
collection, not too pleasant I would think.

The user also has to make gestures when answering incoming phone calls from the 
mobile, need i say any more.

Far superior? Well both these headphones and the MM550X have AptX for 
Bluetooth, I've had the MM550X and - whilst they have a few design faults and 
the noise cancelling isn't as good as it perhaps could be - I've not been 
disappointed.

Noice scance3lling is something I've never bothered about anyway myself.



On 6/09/2016 4:23 PM, Tim Noonan wrote:
> I've been using the Sennheiser PXC 550 Bluetooth travel headphones for a 
> month or so now (they have just been released) and they are amazingly good.
> 
> They supersede the MM 550 phones that have been out for a couple of years now 
> with vastly improved noise reduction, superb audio quality, comfort and 
> features.
> 
> The right ear cup has a touch surface for gestures for increasing and 
> decreasing volume, skipping tracks, pausing, voice dial and voice-through 
> facilities.
> 
> Connection is Bluetooth 4.2 with ApdX. they come with a detachable 3.5ml 
> cable or they act as a sound card when connected to a computer via USB cable 
> supporting 48k at 16 bits.
> 
> They use the same drivers as do the Momentum 2.0 Wireless and fold flat for 
> travel. You turn them on by placing them on your head and when you fold the 
> ear cups flat, they power off.
> 
> The multiple mics enable fantastic call quality for speaker and listener and 
> you hear yourself and the caller as if you were both in the same room, making 
> quiet comfortable conversation very easy and natural.
> 
> The Mics also do an excellent job picking up only your voice and ignoring the 
> other voices and sounds around you.
> 
> The noise cancellation is considered very good overall, but not at par with 
> the NR in the Bose QC35s.
> 
> An app for Android and iOS is available to tune the frequency response of the 
> headphones, but this is not well designed and on IOS is not accessible. I 
> haven't tested the app under Android.
> 
> The PXC 550 Sound is reported to be significantly superior to the Bose QC 35s 
> and has tight but not overly intense bass. They have a frequency response up 
> to 23 KHZ  and excellent stereo separation and instrument isolation.
> 
> Some non-audiofile reviewers have said they prefer the more defined sound 
> from the Momentum 2.0 wireless, others who have reviewed the PXC 550s more 
> extensively rate the sound more highly. Sennheiser say that the Momentums 
> have a more defined sound to be heard in city travel, whereas the noise 
> cancellation improvements on the PXC 550 mean they can produce a flatter more 
> accurate response  without outside noise interfering with their excellent 
> sound reproduction.
> 
> I'm extremely particular about my sound, and these are magnificent for a wide 
> range of music listening - but if you like over-emphasised bass, they 
> probably won't be a good match for you.
> 
> Comfort is excellent and battery life ranges from 20-30 hours on a charge, 
> depending on whether bluetooth is enabled.
> 
> They are high-end at $399 USD or around $625 AUD.
> 
> I haven't had opportunity to listen to the B & W 

Review: Headphones: Sennheiser's newies too clever by half

[Dane Trethowan]

Certainly not for me, I'll just keep enjoying my MM550X for the moment 
.
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/headphones-sennheisers-newies-too-clever-by-half-20160815-gqsmog.html 

Re: The MM 550 was replaced with the very much superior PXC 550 Travel headphones. Re: Bluetooth Headset

[Dane Trethowan]

That's exactly the point, they can't use it too well as the review very 
well illustrates.




On 21/09/2016 11:58 AM, Tim Noonan wrote:

Hmmm,

since sighted people can't see their ears, how do you think they use the touch 
surface?

They use touch.

They are totally usable by sighted and blind people.

Why would a blind person be less able to move their finger up or down or left 
or right than a sighted person?

They also sound exceptional in my view.

As I mentioned in an earlier post, though, the tuning app is not accessible, 
but I have found no need for its use.


On 21 Sep 2016, at 11:45 AM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:

I've just read a review on these and they would be an unmitigated disaster for 
anyone who is blind to use.

Firstly the review clearly states that the touch panels - these cans have two - 
need to be controlled with precise movement and mistakes are easily made so - 
if someone with sight is having trouble - just imagine what it would be like 
for someone who is totally blind?

The command activated by the gesture is voiced and the reviewer made mention of 
how frustrating he found it when he say gestured for the volume to be made 
louder only to discover that he'd skipped to the next track in his music 
collection, not too pleasant I would think.

The user also has to make gestures when answering incoming phone calls from the 
mobile, need i say any more.

Far superior? Well both these headphones and the MM550X have AptX for 
Bluetooth, I've had the MM550X and - whilst they have a few design faults and 
the noise cancelling isn't as good as it perhaps could be - I've not been 
disappointed.

Noice scance3lling is something I've never bothered about anyway myself.



On 6/09/2016 4:23 PM, Tim Noonan wrote:

I've been using the Sennheiser PXC 550 Bluetooth travel headphones for a month 
or so now (they have just been released) and they are amazingly good.

They supersede the MM 550 phones that have been out for a couple of years now 
with vastly improved noise reduction, superb audio quality, comfort and 
features.

The right ear cup has a touch surface for gestures for increasing and 
decreasing volume, skipping tracks, pausing, voice dial and voice-through 
facilities.

Connection is Bluetooth 4.2 with ApdX. they come with a detachable 3.5ml cable 
or they act as a sound card when connected to a computer via USB cable 
supporting 48k at 16 bits.

They use the same drivers as do the Momentum 2.0 Wireless and fold flat for 
travel. You turn them on by placing them on your head and when you fold the ear 
cups flat, they power off.

The multiple mics enable fantastic call quality for speaker and listener and 
you hear yourself and the caller as if you were both in the same room, making 
quiet comfortable conversation very easy and natural.

The Mics also do an excellent job picking up only your voice and ignoring the 
other voices and sounds around you.

The noise cancellation is considered very good overall, but not at par with the 
NR in the Bose QC35s.

An app for Android and iOS is available to tune the frequency response of the 
headphones, but this is not well designed and on IOS is not accessible. I 
haven't tested the app under Android.

The PXC 550 Sound is reported to be significantly superior to the Bose QC 35s 
and has tight but not overly intense bass. They have a frequency response up to 
23 KHZ  and excellent stereo separation and instrument isolation.

Some non-audiofile reviewers have said they prefer the more defined sound from 
the Momentum 2.0 wireless, others who have reviewed the PXC 550s more 
extensively rate the sound more highly. Sennheiser say that the Momentums have 
a more defined sound to be heard in city travel, whereas the noise cancellation 
improvements on the PXC 550 mean they can produce a flatter more accurate 
response  without outside noise interfering with their excellent sound 
reproduction.

I'm extremely particular about my sound, and these are magnificent for a wide 
range of music listening - but if you like over-emphasised bass, they probably 
won't be a good match for you.

Comfort is excellent and battery life ranges from 20-30 hours on a charge, 
depending on whether bluetooth is enabled.

They are high-end at $399 USD or around $625 AUD.

I haven't had opportunity to listen to the B & W P7s, but they have just 
announced a Bluetooth-capable version of these. Time will tell  which has the 
better sound, but for on-the-go listening plus Noise Cancellation, the PXC 550 are 
an excellent all-rounder option.

On 6 Sep 2016, at 3:05 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:









I received a pair of Sehheiser MM550X cans today and I’m suitably impressed 
though everything isn’t roses with this system, there’s nothing much to 
complain about really as I regard the gripes I have as minor irritations to be 
aware of so as such they will be left to last.

The MM550 is a comfortable closed headset which is of a 

Re: The MM 550 was replaced with the very much superior PXC 550 Travel headphones. Re: Bluetooth Headset

[Tim Noonan]

Hmmm,

since sighted people can't see their ears, how do you think they use the touch 
surface?

They use touch.

They are totally usable by sighted and blind people.

Why would a blind person be less able to move their finger up or down or left 
or right than a sighted person?

They also sound exceptional in my view.

As I mentioned in an earlier post, though, the tuning app is not accessible, 
but I have found no need for its use.


On 21 Sep 2016, at 11:45 AM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:

I've just read a review on these and they would be an unmitigated disaster for 
anyone who is blind to use.

Firstly the review clearly states that the touch panels - these cans have two - 
need to be controlled with precise movement and mistakes are easily made so - 
if someone with sight is having trouble - just imagine what it would be like 
for someone who is totally blind?

The command activated by the gesture is voiced and the reviewer made mention of 
how frustrating he found it when he say gestured for the volume to be made 
louder only to discover that he'd skipped to the next track in his music 
collection, not too pleasant I would think.

The user also has to make gestures when answering incoming phone calls from the 
mobile, need i say any more.

Far superior? Well both these headphones and the MM550X have AptX for 
Bluetooth, I've had the MM550X and - whilst they have a few design faults and 
the noise cancelling isn't as good as it perhaps could be - I've not been 
disappointed.

Noice scance3lling is something I've never bothered about anyway myself.



On 6/09/2016 4:23 PM, Tim Noonan wrote:
> I've been using the Sennheiser PXC 550 Bluetooth travel headphones for a 
> month or so now (they have just been released) and they are amazingly good.
> 
> They supersede the MM 550 phones that have been out for a couple of years now 
> with vastly improved noise reduction, superb audio quality, comfort and 
> features.
> 
> The right ear cup has a touch surface for gestures for increasing and 
> decreasing volume, skipping tracks, pausing, voice dial and voice-through 
> facilities.
> 
> Connection is Bluetooth 4.2 with ApdX. they come with a detachable 3.5ml 
> cable or they act as a sound card when connected to a computer via USB cable 
> supporting 48k at 16 bits.
> 
> They use the same drivers as do the Momentum 2.0 Wireless and fold flat for 
> travel. You turn them on by placing them on your head and when you fold the 
> ear cups flat, they power off.
> 
> The multiple mics enable fantastic call quality for speaker and listener and 
> you hear yourself and the caller as if you were both in the same room, making 
> quiet comfortable conversation very easy and natural.
> 
> The Mics also do an excellent job picking up only your voice and ignoring the 
> other voices and sounds around you.
> 
> The noise cancellation is considered very good overall, but not at par with 
> the NR in the Bose QC35s.
> 
> An app for Android and iOS is available to tune the frequency response of the 
> headphones, but this is not well designed and on IOS is not accessible. I 
> haven't tested the app under Android.
> 
> The PXC 550 Sound is reported to be significantly superior to the Bose QC 35s 
> and has tight but not overly intense bass. They have a frequency response up 
> to 23 KHZ  and excellent stereo separation and instrument isolation.
> 
> Some non-audiofile reviewers have said they prefer the more defined sound 
> from the Momentum 2.0 wireless, others who have reviewed the PXC 550s more 
> extensively rate the sound more highly. Sennheiser say that the Momentums 
> have a more defined sound to be heard in city travel, whereas the noise 
> cancellation improvements on the PXC 550 mean they can produce a flatter more 
> accurate response  without outside noise interfering with their excellent 
> sound reproduction.
> 
> I'm extremely particular about my sound, and these are magnificent for a wide 
> range of music listening - but if you like over-emphasised bass, they 
> probably won't be a good match for you.
> 
> Comfort is excellent and battery life ranges from 20-30 hours on a charge, 
> depending on whether bluetooth is enabled.
> 
> They are high-end at $399 USD or around $625 AUD.
> 
> I haven't had opportunity to listen to the B & W P7s, but they have just 
> announced a Bluetooth-capable version of these. Time will tell  which has the 
> better sound, but for on-the-go listening plus Noise Cancellation, the PXC 
> 550 are an excellent all-rounder option.
> 
> On 6 Sep 2016, at 3:05 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I received a pair of Sehheiser MM550X cans today and I’m suitably impressed 
> though everything isn’t roses with this system, there’s nothing much to 
> complain about really as I regard the gripes I have as minor irritations to 
> be aware of so as such they will be left to last.
> 
> The MM550 is a comfortable closed headset 

Re: The MM 550 was replaced with the very much superior PXC 550 Travel headphones. Re: Bluetooth Headset

[Dane Trethowan]

I've just read a review on these and they would be an unmitigated 
disaster for anyone who is blind to use.


Firstly the review clearly states that the touch panels - these cans 
have two - need to be controlled with precise movement and mistakes are 
easily made so - if someone with sight is having trouble - just imagine 
what it would be like for someone who is totally blind?


The command activated by the gesture is voiced and the reviewer made 
mention of how frustrating he found it when he say gestured for the 
volume to be made louder only to discover that he'd skipped to the next 
track in his music collection, not too pleasant I would think.


The user also has to make gestures when answering incoming phone calls 
from the mobile, need i say any more.


Far superior? Well both these headphones and the MM550X have AptX for 
Bluetooth, I've had the MM550X and - whilst they have a few design 
faults and the noise cancelling isn't as good as it perhaps could be - 
I've not been disappointed.


Noice scance3lling is something I've never bothered about anyway myself.



On 6/09/2016 4:23 PM, Tim Noonan wrote:

I've been using the Sennheiser PXC 550 Bluetooth travel headphones for a month 
or so now (they have just been released) and they are amazingly good.

They supersede the MM 550 phones that have been out for a couple of years now 
with vastly improved noise reduction, superb audio quality, comfort and 
features.

The right ear cup has a touch surface for gestures for increasing and 
decreasing volume, skipping tracks, pausing, voice dial and voice-through 
facilities.

Connection is Bluetooth 4.2 with ApdX. they come with a detachable 3.5ml cable 
or they act as a sound card when connected to a computer via USB cable 
supporting 48k at 16 bits.

They use the same drivers as do the Momentum 2.0 Wireless and fold flat for 
travel. You turn them on by placing them on your head and when you fold the ear 
cups flat, they power off.

The multiple mics enable fantastic call quality for speaker and listener and 
you hear yourself and the caller as if you were both in the same room, making 
quiet comfortable conversation very easy and natural.

The Mics also do an excellent job picking up only your voice and ignoring the 
other voices and sounds around you.

The noise cancellation is considered very good overall, but not at par with the 
NR in the Bose QC35s.

An app for Android and iOS is available to tune the frequency response of the 
headphones, but this is not well designed and on IOS is not accessible. I 
haven't tested the app under Android.

The PXC 550 Sound is reported to be significantly superior to the Bose QC 35s 
and has tight but not overly intense bass. They have a frequency response up to 
23 KHZ  and excellent stereo separation and instrument isolation.

Some non-audiofile reviewers have said they prefer the more defined sound from 
the Momentum 2.0 wireless, others who have reviewed the PXC 550s more 
extensively rate the sound more highly. Sennheiser say that the Momentums have 
a more defined sound to be heard in city travel, whereas the noise cancellation 
improvements on the PXC 550 mean they can produce a flatter more accurate 
response  without outside noise interfering with their excellent sound 
reproduction.

I'm extremely particular about my sound, and these are magnificent for a wide 
range of music listening - but if you like over-emphasised bass, they probably 
won't be a good match for you.

Comfort is excellent and battery life ranges from 20-30 hours on a charge, 
depending on whether bluetooth is enabled.

They are high-end at $399 USD or around $625 AUD.

I haven't had opportunity to listen to the B & W P7s, but they have just 
announced a Bluetooth-capable version of these. Time will tell  which has the 
better sound, but for on-the-go listening plus Noise Cancellation, the PXC 550 are 
an excellent all-rounder option.

On 6 Sep 2016, at 3:05 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:









I received a pair of Sehheiser MM550X cans today and I’m suitably impressed 
though everything isn’t roses with this system, there’s nothing much to 
complain about really as I regard the gripes I have as minor irritations to be 
aware of so as such they will be left to last.

The MM550 is a comfortable closed headset which is of a lightweight but sturdy 
build and can be folded up into a carry case supplied for travelling.

As such the user is provided with all manner of adapters for these cans 
including an adapter for connection to an inflight entertainment system via the 
use of the supplied cable that turns these cans into a very nice sounding pair 
of wired cans but the main attraction of the MM550 – apart from its build and 
travelling versatility – is the Bluetooth component without a doubt.

The MM550 come equipped with AptX decoding which is noticeable right away when 
paired to my Samsung Galaxy S6 and to me the aptX facility is the big sounding 
feature for 

bass shakers

[André van Deventer]

Hi all

 

Has anyone ever tried one of these devices and would it amplify bass
frequencies of music say from below hundred herz so that you will be able to
feel it?  I do not have these frequencies anymore and am wondering if you
will be able to actually distinguish musical notes through them or are they
not accurate enough?

 

Hope this makes sense!!

 

André