Program for analysing WAV files
Hi. I've used MP3GAIN for many years and was wondering if anyone is using something similar for analysing WAV files? I've seen mention of WAVGAIN and WAVEGAIN but haven't found anywhere where I can trust to download a robust working version and don't know if the program is accessible. I know that Goldwave has VU meters but assume these are inaccessible for a totaly blind person to make much use of. Open to any suggestions and really interested in personal experience rather than links found in google as I've spent a fair bit of time searching around already. Using Windows with no urges to move to a new operating system to do this... Thanks. Kevin Lloyd E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: getting speech on my ipod
I would strongly recommend that you don't mess with Rockbox for the 16GB Nano if it's a 4th or 5th generation model. Rockbox completely removes the Ipod firmware and is completely unnecessary for these Ipod models. You should install Itunes and, if you have a 5th generation model, you can switch speech on from there once your player is hooked up to the computer. If you have a 4th generation Nano then it's a little more fiddly but not too bad. You'll need to choose a voice on your computer that you want to use on your Ipod and ensure it's the same language as the language setting on your Ipod. By default this is US English so shouldn't be a problem if you're using a US English voice as your computer's default. You'll then again check the checkbox to enable speech within Itunes. Regards. Kevin Lloyd E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com - Original Message - From: Robert doc Wright godfea...@wrighthere.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 6:59 AM Subject: Re: getting speech on my ipod I looked there and it only seeems to support the 1gb nano. - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P djdoct...@att.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 7:34 PM Subject: Re: getting speech on my ipod Hello, ITunes has nothing to do with getting speech on the IPod. You will need a peace of firmware that's called, Rock Box. www.rockbox.com is where you can download it from. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: Laz Mesa laza...@gmail.com To: Pc-audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 3:38 PM Subject: Re: getting speech on my ipod Congratulations Robert! I believe you have to use iTunes to do anything with it, so your first step is to install iTunes and go from there. Laz Robert doc Wright godfea...@wrighthere.net wrote: I just recently won a 16gb ipod nano. How do I go about geting the speech installed? -- Talking MP3 players! Accessible affordable! Great features including: FM radio, voice recording, expandable memory, great book marking capabilities, very user configurable, and a lot more! Play MP3, WMA, OGG, AAC, FLAC, AIFF, WAV, and more! All our players are less than $100, plus free shipping handling to anywhere in the US! Join our mailing list by sending a blank email to: rockboxedsansatalkingmp3players-subscr...@yahoogroups.com To hear what our talking MP3 players sound like, download the demo from here: http://www.talkingmp3players.com/demo.html Visit our home page: http://www.talkingmp3players.com/ Contact information: Email: accessibleelectron...@gmail.com Phone: 727 498-0121 Skype name: lazmesa To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Selecting Songs In ITunes
You can select a set of contiguous tracks in the same way as you would in windows explorer by using shift with up or down arrows. Non-contiguous selection is more problemmatic and I haven't managed to do this using Jaws 11 and Itunes 8.1. May be easier with later versions of Itunes or the JTunes scripts but haven't really felt the need to upgrade or pay the additional cost for the scripts. Regards. Kevin Lloyd E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com - Original Message - From: Brian Hansen bc.hanse...@mchsi.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 1:23 AM Subject: Selecting Songs In ITunes How does one go about selecting songs in ITunes? I haven't been able to figure out how to select a group of continuous songs i.e.. one after another, or non-continuous songs. The help file isn't clear, and there doesn't seem to be any type of help for JFW 11 and ITunes in the popular applications section. It would be nice to be able to make my selections at once, instead of having to go a song at a time. Blessings, Brian To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Itunes, just starting out
Hi Kathy. You can use Itunes as a general music library and player on your PC with no problems at all. If you purchase music from the Itunes store it will be in an Apple proprietary format, usually AAC, and you will need to convert it to MP3 to play on other devices. You can do the conversion in Itunes itself by browsing to the track or number of tracks and choosing convert. There's a bit of a learning curve to Itunes and you need to have compatibility right between your screen reader and the version of Itunes but it's perfectly useable once you get into it. Regards. Kevin E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com - Original Message - From: Kathy Szinnyey joyfulreneg...@insightbb.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 11:39 AM Subject: Re: Itunes, just starting out Hi back atcha! No, I know I'd have to copy whatever music I download from my PC to whatever MP3 device I want to play it on. I have couple of devices I can use, none of which are an IPod. Is the only way you can play ITunes on an IPod? In that case, I won't even pursue using ITunes because I don't have an IPod of any kind. Oh, my, proprietary files make me so very sad! Smile! Peace, Kathy There is more to life than increasing it's speed. Mahatma Gandhi listen to Fred and Kathy on the web at http://www.fredkate.libsyn.com - Original Message - From: dan thompson dthomps...@mchsi.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 9:52 PM Subject: Re: Itunes, just starting out | Hi, Itunes does not work on the braille plus. You would need to copy the | mp3 files onto the device as mentioned by the previous member. | | - Original Message - | From: Catherine Turner catherineturner2...@googlemail.com | To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org | Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:56 PM | Subject: Re: Itunes, just starting out | | | Hi, | | Do you mean you want to play the tunes on your Braille Plus? Though | I'm not familiar with the Braille Plus, I've just googled it and I'm | 99 percent sure it wouldn't work with Itunes. Itunes, though it can | be used as a music management program and media player, is | fundamentally for communicating with Ipods/Iphones and as far as I | know it wouldn't communicate with your Braille Plus. | | If your aim is to play music on your Braille Plus you would copy the | mp3 files onto it. Or if I'm misunderstanding what you want to do | please say and I'll try and help you... | | Catherine | | On 3/30/10, Kathy Szinnyey joyfulreneg...@insightbb.com wrote: | Actually, I do want to be able to take those ITunes with me. I have a | braille plus which means the files would have to be mp3's. | Peace, | Kathy | | | There is more to life than increasing it's speed. Mahatma Gandhi | listen to Fred and Kathy on the web at | http://www.fredkate.libsyn.com | | - Original Message - | From: Catherine Turner catherineturner2...@googlemail.com | To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org | Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:08 AM | Subject: Re: Itunes, just starting out | | | | Hi, | | | | I have Itunes and have bought tracks from Itunes but have never played | | them anywhere else, so might be wrong in what I'm about to say. I | | imagine that you can play the tracks you download from itunes in a | | player other than Itunes - Winamp, say. If that is the case and | | you're just looking to play them on a PC and not an Ipod, personally I | | wouldn't bother with Itunes. I have it, but I don't like it; some | | people do like it, but even so there is new stuff to learn and if all | | you want to do is play tunes personally I wouldn't bother. | | | | Catherine | | | | On 3/30/10, Kathy Szinnyey joyfulreneg...@insightbb.com wrote: | | Hey, gang! Okay, I have resisted long enough and now I know I gotta | sign up | | for Itunes if I want to get some of the cool stuff I can't get | anywhere | | else. I'm running Windows XP, use Jaws 8 point something and can | use | SA to | | go if need be. I know this has been talked about before, so if | anyone | would | | like to email me privately so as not to clutter up the list, that's | okay, | | too. Exactly what do I need to do so I can simply play songs I | download | | from I-tunes? I don't care much about the bells and whistles, just | want | to | | get at some very fine music. Smiles. Thanks lots! | | | | Kathy | | | | email: joufulreneg...@insightbb.com | | | | | | | | To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: | | pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org | | | | | | To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: | | pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org | | | To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: | pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org | | | To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: |
Re: Itunes, just starting out
Hi Amie and Kathy. Not too sure about JAWS 8 and 10 but I would think it would cope easily with the older versions of Itunes, 8.0 and 8.1. I used JAWS 9 with Itunes 8.1 for a long time and am now still using Itunes 8.1 but with JAWS 11. Itunes has been improved, particularly with access to the store, in recent versions ov 9.X so I would suggest trying the latest version and maybe uninstalling and going back to one of the older versions if there's too many issues. I've also pasted some details for an alternative way of accessing he Itunes store that maybe worth trying. I'd have to say though that I haven't tried this myself so can't vouch for it personally. There are also details for joining the portable player list at the end of the details which you may be interested in. Regards. Kevin Hey all; found this last night and was pretty impressed. How many of you hate having to open iTunes just to access the store? It turns out that someone has written a google app that takes the cryptic xml that the store is written in and converts it to normal html. If that went completely over your head, it means that your now able to access the iTunes stores through your web browser of choice. http://app-store.appspot.com I played with this last night with ie 7 and supernova 11.5 and was very impressed with the accessibility of the pages. The nice thing is that if you want to preview a track for example, you don't even have to open up iTunes to do this. The preview file shows up as a file download dialog and your able to play the downloaded files in vlc and I'm assuming winamp as well. Hopefully this will help someone. Ben. -- To unsubscribe, send an email message to portable-player-requ...@freelists.org with the subject UNSUBSCRIBE or click on this link: mailto:portable-player-requ...@freelist.org?subject=unsubscribe Your list moderators: Kerry Painter and Steve Matzura mailto:portable-player-ow...@freelists.org For more Freelists list management commands, send an email message to portable-player-requ...@freelists.org with the single word HELP in the subject, or click on this link: mailto:ecar...@freelists.org?subject=help Kevin Lloyd E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com - Original Message - From: Amie Slavin amie.sla...@ntlworld.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 11:53 AM Subject: RE: Itunes, just starting out How does JAWS 10 get along with ITunes, please? Thanks Amie -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: 31 March 2010 11:45 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Itunes, just starting out Hi Kathy. You can use Itunes as a general music library and player on your PC with no problems at all. If you purchase music from the Itunes store it will be in an Apple proprietary format, usually AAC, and you will need to convert it to MP3 to play on other devices. You can do the conversion in Itunes itself by browsing to the track or number of tracks and choosing convert. There's a bit of a learning curve to Itunes and you need to have compatibility right between your screen reader and the version of Itunes but it's perfectly useable once you get into it. Regards. Kevin E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com - Original Message - From: Kathy Szinnyey joyfulreneg...@insightbb.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 11:39 AM Subject: Re: Itunes, just starting out Hi back atcha! No, I know I'd have to copy whatever music I download from my PC to whatever MP3 device I want to play it on. I have couple of devices I can use, none of which are an IPod. Is the only way you can play ITunes on an IPod? In that case, I won't even pursue using ITunes because I don't have an IPod of any kind. Oh, my, proprietary files make me so very sad! Smile! Peace, Kathy There is more to life than increasing it's speed. Mahatma Gandhi listen to Fred and Kathy on the web at http://www.fredkate.libsyn.com - Original Message - From: dan thompson dthomps...@mchsi.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 9:52 PM Subject: Re: Itunes, just starting out | Hi, Itunes does not work on the braille plus. You would need to copy the | mp3 files onto the device as mentioned by the previous member. | | - Original Message - | From: Catherine Turner catherineturner2...@googlemail.com | To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org | Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:56 PM | Subject: Re: Itunes, just starting out | | | Hi, | | Do you mean you want to play the tunes on your Braille Plus? Though | I'm not familiar with the Braille Plus, I've just googled it and I'm | 99 percent sure it wouldn't work with Itunes. Itunes, though it can | be used as a music management program and media player, is | fundamentally for communicating
Re: CD BURNING QUESTION
Try burning it again with windows media player. The problem is most likely with the media or as another poster has suggested, the writing speed. Depending what format your music is in, there will probably have been a conversion to write it to a standard audio CD but it's unlikely that you would hear a difference in the results between the two programs. Kevin Lloyd E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P djdoct...@att.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:53 AM Subject: Re: CD BURNING QUESTION High Garry, What I'm hearing, are distorted pops in the right speaker of any stereo that I play the CD on. But that is the one that I burned using WMP 10. But the CD I burned using Express Burn, doesn't sound like that. I should point out, that the CD that was burned using WMP 10, has a kind of dull sound. But the CD that was burned using Express Burn, sounds like, it came right out of the studio. What's up with that? John. - Original Message - From: Gary Schindler garys5...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 7:06 PM Subject: Re: CD BURNING QUESTION I suggest that the media that you are using can't handle a faster writing speed, therefore the burner in media player writing speed is to fast. I don't know of a way to slow down the burner using media player. I guess it sounds scratchy or something? - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P djdoct...@att.net To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 2:15 PM Subject: CD BURNING QUESTION Hello list members, I used Windows Media Player 10 to burn an audio CD. But when I played it back on my stereo, I heard degradation in the right speaker. I thought I was hearing things, so I tried the CD on another stereo that I have here in the house. Needless to say, I heard the same thing on that one too as well. Even the highs weren't sounding the way they're suppose to. But when I used Express Burn to burn those same files to CD, I didn't hear what I heard on the first one that was burned by Windows Media Player 10. My question is, why is this happening with one CD burning software and not the other one? Thinks in advance. John. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: CD BURNING QUESTION
No, shouldn't be a problem but you'd really need to repeat the burn to see if you have a real issue or whether the problem was due to faulty media. Regards. Kevin Lloyd E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P djdoct...@att.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 3:36 PM Subject: Re: CD BURNING QUESTION Hello Kevin, The files that I burned to CD using both peaces of software, are PCM uncompressed wave files. They are also 96000 KHZ 32 bit-stereo which is the format that I recorded them in. WMP 10 shouldn't have a problem with those types of files, should it? John. - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd kevin.llo...@sky.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 3:47 AM Subject: Re: CD BURNING QUESTION Try burning it again with windows media player. The problem is most likely with the media or as another poster has suggested, the writing speed. Depending what format your music is in, there will probably have been a conversion to write it to a standard audio CD but it's unlikely that you would hear a difference in the results between the two programs. Kevin Lloyd E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P djdoct...@att.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:53 AM Subject: Re: CD BURNING QUESTION High Garry, What I'm hearing, are distorted pops in the right speaker of any stereo that I play the CD on. But that is the one that I burned using WMP 10. But the CD I burned using Express Burn, doesn't sound like that. I should point out, that the CD that was burned using WMP 10, has a kind of dull sound. But the CD that was burned using Express Burn, sounds like, it came right out of the studio. What's up with that? John. - Original Message - From: Gary Schindler garys5...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 7:06 PM Subject: Re: CD BURNING QUESTION I suggest that the media that you are using can't handle a faster writing speed, therefore the burner in media player writing speed is to fast. I don't know of a way to slow down the burner using media player. I guess it sounds scratchy or something? - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P djdoct...@att.net To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 2:15 PM Subject: CD BURNING QUESTION Hello list members, I used Windows Media Player 10 to burn an audio CD. But when I played it back on my stereo, I heard degradation in the right speaker. I thought I was hearing things, so I tried the CD on another stereo that I have here in the house. Needless to say, I heard the same thing on that one too as well. Even the highs weren't sounding the way they're suppose to. But when I used Express Burn to burn those same files to CD, I didn't hear what I heard on the first one that was burned by Windows Media Player 10. My question is, why is this happening with one CD burning software and not the other one? Thinks in advance. John. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Pros and cons of varible bit rate
Yep, there would be a difference but the higher the ABR then the smaller the difference between the resulting file and that encoded using high quality VBR. For example, if you set your ABR to 300kbps then ABR would steal a little from less complex parts of the music and use those to supplement parts of the music that are more complex and need more than 300kbps. The result is that ABR will try to maintain a jagged line around the 300kbps mark so imagine it just dropping slightly above and below the line through the music track. With VBR with a maximum of 320kbps then you are guaranteed that if a long part of the track needs 320kbps then it will get that. You don't have that guarantee with ABR because it may not have enough bits in hand from the less complex parts of the track to maintain 320kbps for the same amount of time and may instead cap it at 310kbps. ABR is a poor man's VBR where it is important that you can predict the file size. Much better than constant bit rates of less than 320kbps though. For example, a file at ABR of 256kbps will sound better than a file encoded with a constant bit rate of 256kbps. The reason being that the ABR file will be fluctuating just above and below the 256kbps mark as required whereas the constant bit rate will have been crudely chopped as soon as it needed to go above 256kbps. Regards. Kevin E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com - Original Message - From: Amie Slavin amie.sla...@ntlworld.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 12:28 PM Subject: RE: Pros and cons of varible bit rate So is there any difference between ABR set to a higher bit rate and VBR with the quality set to the highest? Amie -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: 27 December 2009 14:00 To: Kevin Lloyd; PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Pros and cons of varible bit rate and here's a reference to the choices around minimum bit rates when using VBR: CDex Manual File Edit Bookmark Options Help Contents Index Back Print Up Bitrate Options: There are three types of bitrate options that you can specify for each the encoder (although some encoders may not allow any options). 1) Constant Bitrate (CBR) This is the default encoding mode, and also the most basic. In this mode, the bitrate will be the same throughout the whole file. So, a second of audio from one part of the file takes just as much disk space as a second from any other part of that file -- regardless of whether either part is silence, acoustically simple, or quite complex. This means that you are likely to hear distortion more in the complex parts than in the simple parts. The advantage of CBR formats is that even older players understand them, and that you can reliably predict the file size from the duration of the sound (or vice versa). 2) Average Bitrate (ABR) In this mode, you tell the encoder to aim for an average bitrate that you specify, skimping on the simpler parts of the music, and using higher bitrates for the parts of your music that are more complex. The result will be of higher quality than you'd get in a CBR encoded file of the same size. This mode is highly recommended over CBR. This encoding mode is similar to VBR. 3) Variable bitrate (VBR) In this mode, you say what level of quality you want in the output file, and the encoder compresses each second as best it can to get just that level of quality -- using less information to represent simpler parts of the song, and more information to represent the more complex parts. However, this mode relies heavily on the encoder's model of how you perceive quality, and could lead to a few bad choices in the encoding process. If possible, you may want to specify a minimum bitrate (e.g., 64 Kbps) to avoid those potential errors. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.430 / Virus Database: 270.14.118/2584 - Release Date: 12/23/09 19:02:00 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: cdex question
Why not start CDEx, press function key F4 to open the options menu and locate the file names tab. There you will find the answer as to where your CD's are being ripped. Regards. Kevin E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com - Original Message - From: Matthew matthew.care...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 4:55 PM Subject: RE: cdex question I thought all ripped files went into my computer then local disk c then cdex then my music? That is where I remember finding them. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Walter Ramage Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 4:12 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: cdex question Hi. If you are using XP then CDEX creates 2 folders in your MY Music folder which is in the My documents folder. The sub folders are called CDDB and MP3. All ripped tracks using CDEX will be found within the MP3sub folder. If the album is not found on the data base then you will find another sub folder has been created in the MP3 folder called No Artist and your ripped album will be with in that sub folder. If for some reason you can't find it then find the My documents icon on your desk top and do a search for the album and listen carefully while it tells you the pathway as it will let you know where it has been placed. Walter. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]on Behalf Of joe bollard Sent: 29 December 2009 08:52 To: pc -audio Subject: cdex question hello friends, i have asked this question on several lists connected with audio, i have CDEx on my laptop i follow all the instructions on ripping files from a Cd i want to put them on my mp3 player, everything goes fine the files should be in recorded tracks but when i look in that folder there is nothing there, i have jaws nine and windows xp, where have the files gone, and how can i find them, hope someone can help, regards from ireland, joe. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo
I'd be suspicious of Winamp then if you're saying that you're choosing stereo rather than joint but Winamp keeps telling you that your results are joint. Have you checked by looking at the properties in windows explorer or any other programs that provide MP3 file informaition? Kevin E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com - Original Message - From: Gary Petraccaro garyp...@verizon.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 6:53 AM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo The problem I'm having is that my system won't produce regular stereo. Everything comes out in joint and variable bit rate regardless of software settings. It's Winamp which I'm using to tell me what my stats on a particular file happen to be. Any thoughts? Thanks. - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd kevin.llo...@sky.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 2:28 PM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo My understanding is that joint stereo is a psychoacoustic trick to try and make lower bit rate encoded files sound better in terms of their channel separation. I don't believe the monoblock analogy is strictly correct. All the advice I have seen is to use normal stereo for decent encoded files at bit rates of 192kbps and higher and only use the joint stereo psychoacoustic trick on very poor files encoded at lower bit rates. Regards. Kevin E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com - Original Message - From: Jörgen Hansson hansson.jo...@spray.se To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 3:23 PM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo Hi! aha, that make sence, thanks so much for this info. then I will set it to joint stereo for further conversions. Regards, Jörgen Hansson! Tel +46 703-601296 www.jorgenhansson.com skype: djtropical4532 - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P djdoct...@att.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 3:53 PM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo High George, Joint stereo is, like you have a pare of speakers, but you have a mono block amplifier on each one. Regular stereo, is having those same pare of speakers hooked up to a stereo amplifier. The joint stereo, gives better stereo channel separation then the regular stereo. Hope this helps. John. - Original Message - From: Jörgen Hansson hansson.jo...@spray.se To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 9:39 AM Subject: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo Hi all! I have a question which is making me curious. when I'm converting wave to mp3 in a convertion program or so, I can see something called joint stereo, and I can also choose if I would like to have it in joint stereo or just stereo. my question is, what's the difference between joint stereo and stereo, I can't seem to hear any difference at all there. Regards, Jörgen Hansson! Tel +46 703-601296 www.jorgenhansson.com skype: djtropical4532 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo
My understanding is that joint stereo is a psychoacoustic trick to try and make lower bit rate encoded files sound better in terms of their channel separation. I don't believe the monoblock analogy is strictly correct. All the advice I have seen is to use normal stereo for decent encoded files at bit rates of 192kbps and higher and only use the joint stereo psychoacoustic trick on very poor files encoded at lower bit rates. Regards. Kevin E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com - Original Message - From: Jörgen Hansson hansson.jo...@spray.se To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 3:23 PM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo Hi! aha, that make sence, thanks so much for this info. then I will set it to joint stereo for further conversions. Regards, Jörgen Hansson! Tel +46 703-601296 www.jorgenhansson.com skype: djtropical4532 - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P djdoct...@att.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 3:53 PM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo High George, Joint stereo is, like you have a pare of speakers, but you have a mono block amplifier on each one. Regular stereo, is having those same pare of speakers hooked up to a stereo amplifier. The joint stereo, gives better stereo channel separation then the regular stereo. Hope this helps. John. - Original Message - From: Jörgen Hansson hansson.jo...@spray.se To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 9:39 AM Subject: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo Hi all! I have a question which is making me curious. when I'm converting wave to mp3 in a convertion program or so, I can see something called joint stereo, and I can also choose if I would like to have it in joint stereo or just stereo. my question is, what's the difference between joint stereo and stereo, I can't seem to hear any difference at all there. Regards, Jörgen Hansson! Tel +46 703-601296 www.jorgenhansson.com skype: djtropical4532 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Pros and cons of varible bit rate
I've never seen any evidence to suggest that encoding at too high a bit rate can result in unwanted artifacts though I do understand that to broadcast in high bit rate is obviously more challenging in terms of available bandwidth and so this may be a consideration. As to the question in general, it's a no-brainer really. Variable bit rate is going to yield the best results at the smallest file size possible. Regards. Kevin E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com - Original Message - From: Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@sbcglobal.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 7:21 PM Subject: Pros and cons of varible bit rate The subject is a question, not a statement. I have been uploading Main Menu archives as a 128KBPS MP3 file. I see that many people recommend 192KBPS, but there a parts of the show that really don't need that high a bit rate. In fact, I have also read that encoding at too high a bit rate can cause unwanted artifacts just as much as encoding at too low a bit rate. Variable bit rate seems a good choice for me to use, but I would like some thoughts from audio experts. Thanks. Jamie Pauls MSN: jamiepa...@hotmail.com Skype: jamie.pauls To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Pros and cons of varible bit rate
The only point I'd add to Dane's notes is that I have read advice around not setting your variable floor too low. I'd suggest for music that you set the floor to 128kbps rather than the suggestion below of 16kbps. Regards. Kevin E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 7:33 PM Subject: Re: Pros and cons of varible bit rate I suppose it comes down once again to personal preference, I've been using varriable bit rates for youears. As I understand it, encoding with a varriable bit rate takes a lot longer as the encoder looks at every sample of the song thus deciding what bit rate it should be encoded at, silence for example is encoded at a lower bit rate than a full sample of orchestra sound, minimum and maximum bit rates for variable encoding are set up with your encoding engine such as LAME so for the best and accurate results you're better off doing this sort of thing manually with a command line so use an app which supports this, Exact Audio Copy is an excellent choice here. Their are several methods of VBR encoding, Old and new, new is quicker for those jobs you want out the door fast but quality isn't quite as good if you're picky, with today's flying processor speeds you may as well use Old. Also note that some older players may not handle VBR playback though I haven't struck one that doesn't yet. Suggested minimum and maximum bit rates for VBR? Well just use the minimum and maximum rates available or if you're configuring from a command line or a piece of software that takes full advantage of the LAME-ENC.dll library then 16 bits for the minimum and 320KBPS for the maximum, there are 2 quality settings you have to be aware of here, one is VBR quality and you may wish to change this for certain audio material you're encoding, say music and talking books. The other quality setting leave at maximum, will take longer but far better results. On 27/12/2009, at 6:21 AM, Jamie Pauls wrote: The subject is a question, not a statement. I have been uploading Main Menu archives as a 128KBPS MP3 file. I see that many people recommend 192KBPS, but there a parts of the show that really don't need that high a bit rate. In fact, I have also read that encoding at too high a bit rate can cause unwanted artifacts just as much as encoding at too low a bit rate. Variable bit rate seems a good choice for me to use, but I would like some thoughts from audio experts. Thanks. Jamie Pauls MSN: jamiepa...@hotmail.com Skype: jamie.pauls To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net Twitter: http://twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia 0390058589 Phone United States 8159261869 Fax: +61 3 9743 7954x MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 ** To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: CD Ripping Question
Hi Tom. What version of windows media player are you using? I'm using version 10 and this is really easy to achieve. I can give you the process for version 10 but it'll obviously be different if you're using another version. Regards. Kevin E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 5:41 AM Subject: Re: CD Ripping Question Hi Christopher and list: Afraid I don't really know where to go in WMP (windows Media Player)..to make that magic happen! I just figured it would save me from having to rip the whole CD..just to get two or three songs I might want; I used to use Cdex; it was great for ripping just one (or whatever number of files at a time that you wanted)..but I never learned how to make Cdex title the tracks like WMP will! The gentleman who was talking about using that feature is right; it puts you right into Windows Media..and starts the ripping process. Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: iPod Nano and talking menus
Hi Jason. If you're music is organised into artist and album folders then the Ipod would be fine for you. You can move from the music folder into either artist, album, song or playlists. When in the artist folder you can browse all albums by the artist or all songs and when selecting an album you can see all of the tracks in that album. Now if your collection is organised into folders other than artist and album then you may be right in considering another option if you're not into playlists. Regards. Kevin E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com - Original Message - From: Jason Boston jwb3...@cox.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 4:34 PM Subject: RE: iPod Nano and talking menus Thanks, that's one of the deciding factors. It's easy for me to dump folders on a rockbox enabled player since my whole audio library is organized by folder instead of play lists. I don't care much for play lists, but that's a personal preference based around the way I like to organize my files. Thanks for the info. I think I'll be looking for another rockbox compatible player. Thanks, Jason -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Jim Noseworthy Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 1:38 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: iPod Nano and talking menus Hi: I'm afraid that the Nano is library based. Cheers. - Original Message - From: Jason Boston jwb3...@cox.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 2:19 PM Subject: RE: iPod Nano and talking menus Can you select folders within iPod to play instead of going through a library? That's the feature I like best about rockbox. I can play all the songs from a folder and it's sub-folders in order or shuffled. I'm hoping the same is basically true for iPod nano. I am without a mp3 player right now and am looking for a good one to buy that isn't too pricy. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 12:13 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: iPod Nano and talking menus It doesn't compare because both are based on completely different principles. The Ipod Forth Generation nano uses voice tags whereas Rockbox uses TTS. Each system has its advantages and disadvantages, for instance you get the title, artist and so on of a particular song announced on your Ipod Forth Generation word by word - example: Dean Martin - Everybody Loves Somebody Sometimes whereas this information is spelt out letter by letter. You also have more options over what kind of speech you want, this is set from the computer you're connecting the Ipod with whether that be a Mac or Windows system, with Rockbox I found it very difficult to find a good speech engine to my liking, I did find one in the end though others were just too fast for my liking. The only problem I've struck with the Ipod Forth Generation Nano is that some of its applications such as time/date alarm and the like are completely unusable but again, that's what you expect to happen if you're using voice tags, the menus all speak however. We're up to the Ipod Fifth generation now and that unit has Voiceover built-in to it so in other words, the Ipod Nano Fifth Generation has a Built-in Screen Reader so its completely customisable. I don't know even if you can buy an Ipod Nano Forth Generation now can you? I have one here and I wouldn't give it up for quits I can tell you, well not at least until I get my Iphone next week - if they haven't sold out in the meantime smile -' On 28/11/2009, at 4:50 AM, Jason Boston wrote: Has anyone had any experience with the talking menus in the 4th generation iPod nanos? I'm curious how it compares to the accessibility of rockbox. Thanks, Jason To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net Twitter: http://twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia 0390058589 Phone United States 8159261869 Fax: +61 3 9743 7954x MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 ** To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Best external sound card for DJ.
If you're only interested in playback, why not check out the Musical Fidelity V-DAC. It's a USB digital to analogue converter rather than soundcard from a well respected hi-fi manufacturer. I use a program called Audigen from Red Chair Software which provides my music library and has excellent search functionality including a simple search on a string that could be in either artist, album or track and a more powerful search that uses SQL. It can also produce reports in a number of formats based on simple or complex search criteria. Regards. Kevin E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com - Original Message - From: Donald Ball dbal...@bellsouth.net To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 9:45 AM Subject: Best external sound card for DJ. I need to start Playing my songs fron the pc. I need a good External Sound card for this. Question. Would a sound card be the best or a USB mixer. Also I would like a piece of software that will allow me to search for music. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Anyone using itunes?
Hi Catherine. I'm using the Ipod Nano 4th generation with Itunes 8.1 and JAWS version 9 completely successfully. I'm removing and adding tracks almost daily as my only criticism of the Nano is it's paltry 16GB capacity. All menus and tracks, artists, albums are spoken. If you have a 5th generation it may well be true that you need to use at least version 9 of Itunes. I think with the 5th generation you have a choice of using VoiceOver or generated spoken tags using your computers voice. I would suggest you join the portable player list as there are many Ipod users there. To subscribe, send an email message to portable-player-requ...@freelists.org with the word subscribe in the subject line. Regards. Kevin E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com - Original Message - From: Catherine Turner catherineturner2...@googlemail.com To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 11:41 PM Subject: Anyone using itunes? Hi, I was recently bought an Ipod nano. I am trying to get to grips with using itunes and don't seem to be getting very far. I use JAWS 10 and have a demo of 11 installed. I have Itunes 9.0.1.8. I've installed J-tunes. The problems I'm having are: 1. Though the menus speak on the ipod it doesn't say the names of the tracks. My partner thinks I need to sync it again so that might be ok. 2. But I so far can't seem to do much at all when the Ipod is connected to the computer. I found and checked the checkbox saying manage music manually or some such, so that I can select playlists etc to put on the ipod. But after that I either keep losing focus or the status keeps saying updating files or syncing the ipod, and it goes on like this for ages. When I try to get into the item list JAWS can't find it and after that I can't get focus back to Itunes at all. T T say that to use the latest version of Itunes you must use JAWS 11. I've tried with a demo of JAWS 11 but it always has problems focusing on Itunes and in general I'm getting better results with 10. I did think maybe trying an earlier version of Itunes but my partner reckons that would not work with my ipod. 3. Also when I connect the ipod a message comes in itunes asking me to register it. I tried to do this because I thought that might have been a reason for my focus problems but when I press the register button I can't seem to read what the edit boxes are and get more focus problems. So I'm wondering - is anybody actually using Itunes with JAWS? What version? What sort of ipod do you have? Do you use j-tunes or not? Have you got the ipod to speak the track names? I'd really like to hear from anyone who's using Itunes. There seems to be so much information going around about version x of itunes is accessible, version x of the ipod is accessible, j-tunes does this that and the other, but I want to hear about someone actually using the things and what your experiences are... Hoping to hear from someone, Catherine To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4574 (20091104) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4576 (20091105) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Hi-fi soundcard
Hi Andy. What you're doing at the moment is having your Yamaha AV unit do the digital to analogue conversion for you and the sound blaster is purely transfering the digital signal from your computer to the AV unit. The Musical Fidelity V-DAC would be doing the digital to analogue conversion instead of the Yamaha and so it would be a direct comparison between the two. I would suspect little difference in the sound quality. If you were using analogue output from the sound blaster I would expect the V-DAC would do a much better job as it is a discreet piece of hi-fi kit that is powered separately and is built specifically for high quality music reproduction. Regards. Kevin E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com - Original Message - From: Andy a...@logue3883.freeserve.co.uk To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 7:46 PM Subject: Re: Hi-fi soundcard Hi Kevin. I had a look at this device as I'm thinking of an alternative to my Creative Soundblaster 24 bit external card. At the moment, I have my Soundblaster sending the audio file via it's optic out, into a Yamaha AV unit. The quality of the sound is really very good. The V-DAC has an analogue output, which would simply go into my CD phono inputs on the Yamaha. Kevin, I thought that the quality of Optic was much better than Phono? Are you saying that the V-DAC, plugged into my computer's USB and to my CD Phono's on the AV unit are as good or better than the Soundblaster with it's optic output to the AV unit? Very best wishes. Andy. - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd kevin.llo...@sky.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 9:23 AM Subject: Re: Hi-fi soundcard Yes, if you're looking for pure high quality playback then I'd recommend the Musical Fidelity V-DAC. This is a real piece of hi-fi kit produced by a well respected hi-fi brand rather than a piece of computer kit. It will connect via USB and can be bought for approx. £150 from www.superfi.co.uk Regards. Kevin E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com - Original Message - From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 9:14 PM Subject: RE: Hi-fi soundcard Speaking of high sound quality - I would be in the market for a very good digital to analog converter simply to use my computer connected to a good stereo system. Is there anything better than the xitel for example? Andre -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Bue Vester-Andersen Sent: 31 October 2009 11:18 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: SV: Hi-fi soundcard Hi John, Thanks for the advice. I must admit that I discarded the Sound blaster cards in advance. I suppose the digital connections will be ok, since a bit is a bit. However, their d/a-converters don't have a very good reputation with me. Maybe they have improved, or maybe I am just prejudiced, but I was originally going for a more high-end solution. Do Sound blaster actually make high-end cards, or is is it just gaming and surround stuff, like I thought it was? Are there any good alternatives? Best regards Bue -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af djdoctorp Sendt: 31. oktober 2009 20:17 Til: PC Audio Discussion List Emne: Re: Hi-fi soundcard Hello, All of the sound cards made by sound blaster can and will do what you need them to do. Check them all out at: http://www.soundblaster.com my best regards to you! John. - Original Message - From: Bue Vester-Andersen bva_li...@vester-andersen.dk To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 3:01 PM Subject: Hi-fi soundcard Hi. Can anyone help me? I need a high-end hi-fi soundcard with an accessible configuration interface and that is compatible with Windows 7. It is going to sit in my hi-fi pc, so I don't really need surround sound or 64 channels.. All i really need is stereo analogue and digital inputs and outputs and a card that will do the job and do it really well. Best regards Bue __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4561 (20091031) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4561 (20091031) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4561 (20091031) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from
Re: Hi-fi soundcard
Yes, if you're looking for pure high quality playback then I'd recommend the Musical Fidelity V-DAC. This is a real piece of hi-fi kit produced by a well respected hi-fi brand rather than a piece of computer kit. It will connect via USB and can be bought for approx. £150 from www.superfi.co.uk Regards. Kevin E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com - Original Message - From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 9:14 PM Subject: RE: Hi-fi soundcard Speaking of high sound quality - I would be in the market for a very good digital to analog converter simply to use my computer connected to a good stereo system. Is there anything better than the xitel for example? Andre -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Bue Vester-Andersen Sent: 31 October 2009 11:18 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: SV: Hi-fi soundcard Hi John, Thanks for the advice. I must admit that I discarded the Sound blaster cards in advance. I suppose the digital connections will be ok, since a bit is a bit. However, their d/a-converters don't have a very good reputation with me. Maybe they have improved, or maybe I am just prejudiced, but I was originally going for a more high-end solution. Do Sound blaster actually make high-end cards, or is is it just gaming and surround stuff, like I thought it was? Are there any good alternatives? Best regards Bue -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af djdoctorp Sendt: 31. oktober 2009 20:17 Til: PC Audio Discussion List Emne: Re: Hi-fi soundcard Hello, All of the sound cards made by sound blaster can and will do what you need them to do. Check them all out at: http://www.soundblaster.com my best regards to you! John. - Original Message - From: Bue Vester-Andersen bva_li...@vester-andersen.dk To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 3:01 PM Subject: Hi-fi soundcard Hi. Can anyone help me? I need a high-end hi-fi soundcard with an accessible configuration interface and that is compatible with Windows 7. It is going to sit in my hi-fi pc, so I don't really need surround sound or 64 channels.. All i really need is stereo analogue and digital inputs and outputs and a card that will do the job and do it really well. Best regards Bue __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4561 (20091031) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4561 (20091031) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4561 (20091031) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.42/2473 - Release Date: 10/31/09 21:14:00 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4563 (20091101) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4563 (20091101) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: itunes file to mp3
You should be able to open AAC files in goldwave and save them as MP3. Regards. Kevin E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com - Original Message - From: Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 6:05 PM Subject: itunes file to mp3 Hey guys, Got an itunes file i need to convert to an mp3, how do i do this? Thanks, Jed To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Naming Tracks
John, can't provide the detailed step by step instructions as I don't use this software but it sounds like you need something like MusicBrains. If you search for this with Google you'll find the website where you can download it and a compatible tagger to do what you want. The way it works is that it takes an audio fingerprint of each track and matches it against a database of fingerprints to automatically add the ID3 tags. Good luck. Kevin E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com - Original Message - From: john poole pool...@btinternet.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 11:26 AM Subject: Re: Naming Tracks Cheers Mathew, There is just to many to re-edit and this is what iwant to avoid! Regards, John. - Original Message - From: Matthew matthew.care...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 12:56 AM Subject: RE: Naming Tracks You could always use the automatic meta data thing in win amp. Just do alt 3 on the track in win amp you want to name and shift tab to auto tag and then check it and hit ok it also gives steps to do multiple files. You would then have to re name them with what you found. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of john poole Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 5:15 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Naming Tracks Hi All, A few years ago before having an internet connection, I copied a load of CDs into the computer and they are listed as Unknown Album and are listed as track 1 track 2 so on. Is there a programme or way for the computer to name all these tracks? step by step instructions if possible please! Would be very much appreciated, John. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Batch converting, flac to mp3
Hi Tim. Goldwave has a very easy to use batch converter that can convert Flac to MP3 using the lame encoder. Regards. Kevin E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com - Original Message - From: Tim Crawford t...@gi4oph.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 11:20 PM Subject: Batch converting, flac to mp3 Hi, I have over 700 cds ripped to flac format, and would like to batch convert the whole lot to mp3, using the lame encoder, for playback on various portable devices. I'd be interested in any recommendations on software which will reliably accomplish this, and works well with window eyes. Many thanks, Tim. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: adding lame mp3 encoder to goldwave
Just copy the lame dll file into your goldwave folder and that's job done. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Scott Blanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 4:05 AM Subject: adding lame mp3 encoder to goldwave Hi all, How can I go about adding the lame mp3 converted to goldwave? I downloaded the lame program, and unzipped it from its archive, but when I ran the exe file, nothing happened, so I'm not sure whether the program was installed. Thanks, Scott Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Accessible mp3 tagging program
You can use media players tag editor to do this. Go to your library, locate the tracks you want to tag and hit your aplications key for a list of functions including the tag editor. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: David Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 3:07 PM Subject: Accessible mp3 tagging program Does anhyone know of one. Most of my files are tagged, but I've noticed that since I've been using wmp11 library, there are a load that aren't. Ideally, a program that will bulk tag a directory. Thanks, Dave. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jitter errors
To remove or minimise jitter errors always use jitter correction and try cleaning the disc if they persist. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 6:18 AM Subject: Re: Jitter errors in this case how do you get rid of these errors? - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 12:22 PM Subject: Re: Jitter errors Jitter errors mean that your rip has imperfections. These manifest themselves as small blips in the music or in worse cases, skipping. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: GianniP46 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PCAudioList pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 3:31 AM Subject: Jitter errors Hey guys, I just ripped a cd in cdex and one of the tracks had 5 Jitter errors. What does that mean? Is the mp3 fine or not? What is a jitter error and what impact does it have on a file? Thanks! Gian Carlo Pedulla [EMAIL PROTECTED] LETS! GO! METS! Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.6/1231 - Release Date: 1/18/2008 11:55 AM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Changes in Winamp Version 5.52
I'd recommend giving windows media player a look. It's library is completely accessible with no scripting required. Very powerful and easy to use once you've spent a little time playing with it. It won't get broken in a couple of days time either with yet another software release that doesn't seem to deliver anything of much tangible use. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 10:49 AM Subject: Re: Changes in Winamp Version 5.52 Now, if they would just make the damn library more screenreader friendly, I think we'd have a lot of happy blind folks on these lists. they seem to be all about these new modern bento skins. They look pretty but the library gets increasingly harder to use with each version. Trust me, I've gone to the Winamp developers and explained the situation, and they did make some improvements but they appear to be broken again, and unless someone with some programming knowledge can show them what's happening, it may only get worse, or stay this way. It sucks. At 09:48 PM 1/17/2008, you wrote: As mentioned previously on this list Winamp version 5.52 is now available and one place where you can download it from is at www.majorgeeks.com/Winamp_5_Full_d2490.html. Here are the changes in this version: Winamp 5.52 * Improved: Better Unicode filename support for enc_*.dll audio encoders * Improved: [ml_transcode] Unicode filename support * Improved: [in_mp3] APEv2 tag support * Improved: [in_flac] Support for reading/writing BPM metadata * Improved: [nde] Optimized for faster mldb query results * Improved: [vis_milk2] Pixel shaders now work on onboard Intel graphics chips * Fixed: Comment field character limitation in Basic Info tab of File Editor * Fixed: Playback Thread Priority middle setting resets to Lowest * Fixed: [in_mp3] Ultravox streaming metadata stack overflow (Thanks: Secunia) * Fixed: [in_mp4] Crash when attempting to play non-existent files * Fixed: [in_vorbis] Crash when clearing existing metadata fields in File Info * Fixed: [in_wave] Transcoding of floating point WAV files * Fixed: [ml_transcode] Memory leaks * Misc: More miscellaneous general tweaks and improvements * Updated: Bento skin #118 Regards Steve Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows Live Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: steve1963 Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jitter errors
Jitter errors mean that your rip has imperfections. These manifest themselves as small blips in the music or in worse cases, skipping. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: GianniP46 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PCAudioList pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 3:31 AM Subject: Jitter errors Hey guys, I just ripped a cd in cdex and one of the tracks had 5 Jitter errors. What does that mean? Is the mp3 fine or not? What is a jitter error and what impact does it have on a file? Thanks! Gian Carlo Pedulla [EMAIL PROTECTED] LETS! GO! METS! Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ripping Settings
Yes, I'd recommend using VBR to get the best results in the smallest file size. Joint stereo is only really used if you are ripping at extremely low bitrates so I would avoid using this. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 3:57 AM Subject: Ripping Settings I'd like to hear what people think about using VBR and joint stereo. Plus or minus, please. Thanks very much in advance. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: File rename mp3 with id3 tag
Try mp3tag. It's free and accessible and will rename files from ID3 tag info. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 12:53 AM Subject: File rename mp3 with id3 tag Hi I am lookig for a bulk file renamer that can rename mp3 files using info from the id3 tags. Any suggestions? Thanks Russell Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flac and Windows Media Player 11
Yes, you'll need to download a codec to play flac in windows media player. Just google flac windows media player and read up on the subject before taking the plunge. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 3:35 PM Subject: Flac and Windows Media Player 11 Anyone know anything about Flac and whether it plays in Windows Media Player 11? Do I need a plug-in for the Windows Mediap Player to play Flac? Sorry,k if this question has been asked before. Thanks for the responses. mail2web.com - What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you? http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More direct link? RE: upgrading zenstone
Please send your e-mail address to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I'll send you the firmware directly. It's just over 1 meg in size so shouldn't be a problem to mail. If anyone else wants the firmware, please also use the e-mail address above rather than responding to the list. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: John Sanfilippo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 1:33 PM Subject: More direct link? RE: upgrading zenstone Hi, I followed the link given in one of the earliest messages about this, and found it only took me dancing, and I wound up signing up for something I'd rather not sign up for. Is there a more direct link so that I don't keep going in circles to get this software? Or would someone be willing to simply send it to me? Advanced thanks, Js -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 23:22 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: upgrading zenstone You could also run the Creative Media Lite software. It'll give you the version number of the firmware on the Zen Stone. If it says something other than 1.06.01 then you don't have the latest firmware. John Sanfilippo wrote: If it takes a long time to turn on and play, you probably want it. Js -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy W Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 09:24 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: upgrading zenstone If you bought the player this month, how do you determine if you need to install the update? Judy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 7:13 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: upgrading zenstone I found the following note that appeared in one of these mailing lists. I've installed this update, and I think Kevin pretty much says it all. I've just been made aware of a firmware update for the zen stone. It's been available since August so some of you may already have updated your players but if not there's a link below where you can go to download the update. The biggest change is to reduce the time it takes for the stone to start playing. This has been reduced from 15 seconds to less than 5 seconds.Just download the software, connect your stone and then run the update. It takes seconds to complete and is very straightforward. I did lose my place in my current playlist so you might want to consider this if you're half way through a book. http://us.creative.com/support/downloads/download.asp?MainCategory=213 sO SNam e=Windows+XPregion=2Product_Name=ZEN+StoneProduct_ID=16424modelnumber=dr iver lang=1033OS=10drivertype=4 Kevin Judy W wrote: Does anyone have any info on the new upgrade for the zenstone and a link to it? Is the upgrade worth it? Judy Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Christopher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Christopher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CDEX is great!
FLAC and lossless WMA are both better formats than WAV for two reasons. Firstly, they are compressed without losing any of the musical content and so yield smaller file sizes for the same quality as WAV and secondly, they support ID3 tags. I use lossless WMA rather than FLAC and believe you can broadcast in WMA but this is not an area I know much about so won't go any further. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Peter Scanlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 6:04 PM Subject: Re: CDEX is great! I have all my music rpped onto hard disk in 320 MP3. I would consider re-ripping it if flac is as good as wav, which is what you say. Are there portable players that play flac ? Can you stream a internet radio show using flac ? - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 4:11 AM Subject: Re: CDEX is great! A 320kbps mp3 file is good but not as good as a lossless format like wav, flac or lossless wma. You may only notice the short comings of mp3 when you play music back through a good hifi system. Of course, if you've ripped all your music to mp3 then it'll be too late to get that quality back unless you rip all over again. I'm a firm believer that in the future everyone will use lossless music with very cheap storage and broadband being widespread and so I wouldn't want to back myself into that mp3 corner. It sounds great on portables and on the computer but lacks highs and lows, midrange detail and has a general boxed in kind of sound in comparison to lossless formats. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: GianniP46 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PCAudioList pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 7:35 PM Subject: CDEX is great! Hey guys, I just converted my first mp3 in cdex from a wav that I ripped from vinyl and I can't tell the difference. I used the preset insane and it sounds exactly alike as the wav to me. Maybe I have been D.Jing to long and am losing some hearing, but it really sounds pretty good. Am I crazy? Is a 320 mp3 that good? Gian Carlo Pedulla [EMAIL PROTECTED] LETS! GO! METS! Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Os 10.5 Leopard, some people are having problem it seems
Dane, this isn't a list for operating systems or screen reader discussions but you've mentioned some interesting applications here. Might be useful to expand on how you're using these applications. That is, are you totally blind and completely relying on voice over or have some small amount of sight to get you round some difficulties when necessary or partially sighted and using screen magnification. I think the take up of Macs is about 5% compared to windows so there may only be yourself using a mac on this list but it may be useful to others to know if the operating system and these applications are totally accessible to a blind person using voice over in case someone goes for a change from windows and ends up with a pup that they can't fully use. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 1:44 PM Subject: Os 10.5 Leopard, some people are having problem it seems Hi everyone! So how are you all going with Leopard, everything running smoothly is it? According to the technology columns in my local paper yesterday, the transition from Tiger to Leopard for many Mac owners has been less than smooth. The writers point out that the first problem which seems to occur is a Blue Screen when Leopard is installed and the system restarts. Well that's an interesting point because when I installed Leopard onto my Imac, I wasn't able to reboot the machine but I did have a faulty machine at the time so I wouldn't take too much notice of my experience. I've installed Leopard on 2 computers here, my Macbook and a friends g4 Ibook and both installs went without a hitch but I'd be lying if I said that I haven't had a few teething problems with a couple of pieces of software, the one which comes to mind is Audio Hijack Pro. This software may require you to download extra modules depending on how you use the software, for example if you want to instantly hijack an application such as Real Player, VLC, Itunes or Quicktime, without this plug-in Audio Hijack Pro has to re-launch the application you're trying to hijack before you can proceed. So to put this into context, suppose you're listening to BBC7 on the Internet through Real Audio Player and you decide you like what you're hearing so you launch Audio Hijack Pro in order to hijack and record the output of Real audio, Select Real Audio from the sessions table and press the Hijack button. Audio Hijack Pro then comes up with a warning message telling you that Real Audio player has to be re-launched before Hijacking can take place, as you can see this sanario is extremely annoying but that's exactly what happens without the Instant Hijack plug-in installed. On my systems here and another that a friend and I have tried, Audio Hijack Pro (whilst acknowledging that the Instant Hijack plug-in is available) will not give you the status, that is whether its installed or uninstalled but its safe to say I think that uninstalled ins the likely status smile. I've written to the developers about this so I hope we see some action before too long. That's the only really big annoyance I've had to put up with since installing Leopard, all my other favourite applications such as Nisus Writer Pro (the word processing package I use), Transmit (the FTP client I use) all have released updates to cope with Leopard. so here's another question. We all know that Leopard was in beta mode for quite some considerable time (unless I'm very much mistaken at least 12 months or more) so why are these software developers so behind when it comes to releasing updates for Leopard? Adobe for example doesn't have any plans to release updates for Acrobat or Photo Shop until the new year. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CDEX is great!
A 320kbps mp3 file is good but not as good as a lossless format like wav, flac or lossless wma. You may only notice the short comings of mp3 when you play music back through a good hifi system. Of course, if you've ripped all your music to mp3 then it'll be too late to get that quality back unless you rip all over again. I'm a firm believer that in the future everyone will use lossless music with very cheap storage and broadband being widespread and so I wouldn't want to back myself into that mp3 corner. It sounds great on portables and on the computer but lacks highs and lows, midrange detail and has a general boxed in kind of sound in comparison to lossless formats. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: GianniP46 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PCAudioList pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 7:35 PM Subject: CDEX is great! Hey guys, I just converted my first mp3 in cdex from a wav that I ripped from vinyl and I can't tell the difference. I used the preset insane and it sounds exactly alike as the wav to me. Maybe I have been D.Jing to long and am losing some hearing, but it really sounds pretty good. Am I crazy? Is a 320 mp3 that good? Gian Carlo Pedulla [EMAIL PROTECTED] LETS! GO! METS! Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ripping cd's into one audio track?
You can also use goldwave's CD reader to rip a CD into a single track. Doesn't support AAC out of the boxbut there may be a plug in I'm not aware of. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 5:34 PM Subject: Re: ripping cd's into one audio track? Ived used CDEX to do the same thing. and I incodeit to flac and then later to mp3 or ogg. Now if CDEX would only encode to aac that would be nice but that's another subject for another day. SAG - Original Message - From: Curtis Delzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 9:17 AM Subject: Re: ripping cd's into one audio track? Easy CD-DA Extractor works best for combining multi-tracks into one output file per cd, for me anyway. Curtis Delzer - Original Message - From: Scott Erichsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 5:05 AM Subject: ripping cd's into one audio track? Hi all, I have here a number of audio books on cd I wish to convert to files to take on my audio player. It supports mp3 or OGG. I prefer OGG. I want to be able to rip the cd and instead of having 20 or so tracks for each cd I want to have 1 track for each cd. so I have 11 files instead of over 300. (SMILE) What application would give me the best result? remembering that I don't want to have to join all the files after ripping them. I use CDEX but it is very tricky to do that with. I also have soundForge with cd arketect but have never used it. Any assistance greatly appreciated. Scott Erichsen MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: jazzpianomuso Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Zen stone firmware upgrade
I've just been made aware of a firmware update for the zen stone. It's been available since August so some of you may already have updated your players but if not there's a link below where you can go to download the update. The biggest change is to reduce the time it takes for the stone to start playing. This has been reduced from 15 seconds to less than 5 seconds. Just download the software, connect your stone and then run the update. It takes seconds to complete and is very straightforward. I did lose my place in my current playlist so you might want to consider this if you're half way through a book. http://us.creative.com/support/downloads/download.asp?MainCategory=213sOSName=Windows+XPregion=2Product_Name=ZEN+StoneProduct_ID=16424modelnumber=driverlang=1033OS=10drivertype=4 Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ripping, Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
There should be no difference at all in sound quality between FLAC and WMA lossless and little or no difference in file size. The choice is really then about support for the format. That is, how many software and hardware players will play WMA compared to those that will support FLAC. I don't know much more about FLAC but it strikes me as more of a archive and don't touch kind of format whereas WMA lossless, for me at least, provides both the archive and the convenience of being widely supported. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 4:01 PM Subject: RE: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Is there a tremendous difference in flak lossless verses WMA lossless? It seems if they're both lossless and work as advertized, each would yield similar results. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 4:40 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 7:18 AM Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things So, if your CD-ROM is not as good as it could be then EAC is for you otherwise it's more for the paranoid ripper. The paranoid ripper? Are you referring to Jack, the paranoid ripper? grin Blessed Be, Dana that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized pronunciation dictionary that Dana=dayna. D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: dsleslie Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ripping, Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
Well, maybe you have a reading problem too. I actually said worrying about waveforms not listening to them. Last I'll say on this subject as it's getting a bit tedious and tiresome now. I guess it's just difficult to take some opinions objectively when you see so many ridiculous anti-windows and anti-microsoft comments. I do go to a lot of trouble when ripping as I've got my collection of 900 CD's ripped in lossless and have my music hooked up to a high end hifi system. Bottomline is that I trust my hearing so can tell a perfect rip from one with imperfections. No doubt you'll want to respond with some sarcastic nonsense again but read the e-mail a few times first so that you're able to comprehend it this time. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 2:24 PM Subject: RE: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Dear Dear, perhaps I didn't explain things correctly, when I meant comparing wave files I meant actually comparing them with your PC, Mac or whatever, that's one of the many wonders with computers, you can compare the files byte-for-byte in a matter of seconds. Me listening to wave forms? Well now, that's given me the first laugh for a Saturday morning, I have an 80% hearing loss so that would be of little use to me smile. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: Saturday, 24 November 2007 12:11 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Yep, that'll be him... Spent so much time worrying about his waveform that he forgot about sitting back and enjoying listening to his music... Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dana S. Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 12:40 PM Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 7:18 AM Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things So, if your CD-ROM is not as good as it could be then EAC is for you otherwise it's more for the paranoid ripper. The paranoid ripper? Are you referring to Jack, the paranoid ripper? grin Blessed Be, Dana that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized pronunciation dictionary that Dana=dayna. D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: dsleslie Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ripping, Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
Your situation would be that you have a bit of a dodgy CD-ROM drive if you need to use EAC. If you have a good quality drive you don't need to go to those extremes. You should always use error correction of course which will slow down your media player rips but you will get perfect results with a good quality CD-ROM and CD's in fair to good condition. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:17 AM Subject: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Media Player etc are probably fine for most people but in my situation where perfect rips and perfect copies are a must have then Media Player and others are just out of the race. As I said before, those people who are sticking with Easy CD DA Extractor (that includes Yorus Truly) are on a pretty good thind I reckon but still, Exact Audio Copy and Max Ripper are the only things I've tested which do perfect rips and perfect copies of audio CD'S. Compression? Well Danna sort of had it right and I reckon her ears are functioning smile, AAC+ is a damn good standard, its regretable that (unfortunately) EAC doesn't (as far as I know) support AAC+ internally so you have to run an external encoder, either that or do your rips with EAC (as Wave files) and convert them with something like Easy CD DA extractor which will let you do thousands of files in a batch as everyone knows, that almost defeats the purpose but still the rips are more accurate. EAC is (if set up correctly) considerably slower than Windows Media Player, taking say 7-10 minutes to rip a CD however this speed reduction is due to the comparison ripping the programme does, reading and re-reading each sector and comparing the values, I was also interested to read that Exact Audio Copy will handle copy-protected audio CD'S, not that you see too many of those round these days I don't think. Now for those who will sware by MP3 till their dying day well I admire your courage and (whilst I admit that MP3 is getting a bit long in the tooth now) you can get some very nice quality out of LAME if you tweek it, that means not using the defaults offered to you by your ripper. If you're using Winamp to play your MP3 files then it pays to use the MAD MP3 output plug-in, you'll hear the difference and MAD is not the only great MP3 decoder for Winamp either. VLC'S decoder seems to be rather nice. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of albert griffith Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2007 8:19 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Exact audio copy was developed by a good programmer who really likes his tracks to be ripped neatly. It's a good program but I like the media player as well if I'm ripping to a format they support. Example: I've ripped 500 disks in the last two weeks with it and it's been a breeze. I just push in the disk drawer and away it goes and ejects the disk when the ripping is complete. EAC. has this drive off-set stuff and while it makes files look better on paper, I can't hear a difference. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 9:40 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things I'm not familiar with EAC. Details, please. What makes it superior? I've been happily ripping with Easy CDDA since version 4 or 5, I think. Can't imagine an easier interface, or better results. Blessed Be, Dana that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized pronunciation dictionary that Dana=dayna. D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: dsleslie Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:15 PM Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Yeah, well the software is only going to be used for conversion here as I find that EAC does a far better job at ripping, honestly that software is the best ripper on the earth I reckon. On 22/11/2007, at 2:29 PM, Dana S. Leslie wrote: Dane, Glad to help. And, thank you for alerting me to the change. As I said in my last message, I mostly only ever use the program to rip CDs to my hard drive. But, occasionally, I will convert some files. If you hadn't alerted me, I probably would have been happily ripping away with version 11, and been very surprised and frustrated when I did, eventually, want to do a conversion. Blessed Be, Dana that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A If your synthesizer pronounces them
Re: Ripping, Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
Well, you've maybe interpreted a bit dodgy for falling to bits. What I'm getting at is that a CD transport spins a disc at a very high speed and a CD-ROM isn't usually built for a computer in the same way as it is for a standard CD player. Typically, the disc is not held as securely and so the movement of the disc, as slight as it may be, will cause jitter errors due to laser tracking problems. Also, I think you're well acquainted with offset issues and you must also know that some CD-ROM's suffer with non standard offsets more than others. I can't blame you wanting to get the best rips out of your CD's and it's your choice to use EAC but I wouldn't rubbish other rippers as the underlying software and interaction with the CD-ROM and operating system are all pretty similar. So, if your CD-ROM is not as good as it could be then EAC is for you otherwise it's more for the paranoid ripper. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 10:05 AM Subject: RE: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Well I don't know what you're getting at quite frankly, I've heard some things in my time but I've never heard that before smile Faulty CD drives won't work with any CD ripper wither it be EAC, Windows Media Player or whatever. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 8:31 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Your situation would be that you have a bit of a dodgy CD-ROM drive if you need to use EAC. If you have a good quality drive you don't need to go to those extremes. You should always use error correction of course which will slow down your media player rips but you will get perfect results with a good quality CD-ROM and CD's in fair to good condition. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:17 AM Subject: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Media Player etc are probably fine for most people but in my situation where perfect rips and perfect copies are a must have then Media Player and others are just out of the race. As I said before, those people who are sticking with Easy CD DA Extractor (that includes Yorus Truly) are on a pretty good thind I reckon but still, Exact Audio Copy and Max Ripper are the only things I've tested which do perfect rips and perfect copies of audio CD'S. Compression? Well Danna sort of had it right and I reckon her ears are functioning smile, AAC+ is a damn good standard, its regretable that (unfortunately) EAC doesn't (as far as I know) support AAC+ internally so you have to run an external encoder, either that or do your rips with EAC (as Wave files) and convert them with something like Easy CD DA extractor which will let you do thousands of files in a batch as everyone knows, that almost defeats the purpose but still the rips are more accurate. EAC is (if set up correctly) considerably slower than Windows Media Player, taking say 7-10 minutes to rip a CD however this speed reduction is due to the comparison ripping the programme does, reading and re-reading each sector and comparing the values, I was also interested to read that Exact Audio Copy will handle copy-protected audio CD'S, not that you see too many of those round these days I don't think. Now for those who will sware by MP3 till their dying day well I admire your courage and (whilst I admit that MP3 is getting a bit long in the tooth now) you can get some very nice quality out of LAME if you tweek it, that means not using the defaults offered to you by your ripper. If you're using Winamp to play your MP3 files then it pays to use the MAD MP3 output plug-in, you'll hear the difference and MAD is not the only great MP3 decoder for Winamp either. VLC'S decoder seems to be rather nice. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of albert griffith Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2007 8:19 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Exact audio copy was developed by a good programmer who really likes his tracks to be ripped neatly. It's a good program but I like the media player as well if I'm ripping to a format they support. Example: I've ripped 500 disks in the last two weeks with it and it's been a breeze. I just push in the disk drawer and away it goes and ejects the disk when the ripping is complete. EAC. has this drive off-set stuff and while it makes files look better on paper, I can't hear a difference. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto
Re: Ripping, Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
Yep, that'll be him... Spent so much time worrying about his waveform that he forgot about sitting back and enjoying listening to his music... Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dana S. Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 12:40 PM Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 7:18 AM Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things So, if your CD-ROM is not as good as it could be then EAC is for you otherwise it's more for the paranoid ripper. The paranoid ripper? Are you referring to Jack, the paranoid ripper? grin Blessed Be, Dana that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized pronunciation dictionary that Dana=dayna. D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: dsleslie Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ripping,Copying and Encoding
You could take a laptop with you and connect both a hard drive and USB soundcard connected to your mixer without really taking up too much more space. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 7:37 PM Subject: RE: Ripping,Copying and Encoding Well another way may be to get a Hard Drive jukebox say like an Ipod or Iriver, put your music on that and connect that to your mixer. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 5:08 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and Encoding High all list members, Saving all of your music to a USB hard drive is all well and good. But if you have a paying job on the week ends as a DJ, how do you run that music through your mixer if you don't burn some of it to CD? I haven't seen one of these out there, but perhaps there is a digital mixer that lets you plug these hard drives in to it via USB ports? John. Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 1:07 PM Subject: RE: Ripping,Copying and Encoding Even though I've just ripped most of my collection I find my new found ability to access everything liberating. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 6:30 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and Encoding Ah, but you see, I prefer to play all my music, using Winamp, directly from the AAC files on my external drive, and keep my CDs stored for archival backup. That way, I don't have to go fumbling through hundreds of CDs to find a particular track. Until recently, I think, Winamp wouldn't play from DVDs. And, even now, fumbling through a couple of hundred DVDs isn't much more convenient than fumbling through several hundred CDs. Blessed Be, Dana that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized pronunciation dictionary that Dana=dayna. D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: dsleslie Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 9:04 AM Subject: RE: Ripping,Copying and Encoding That's a consideration of course, that's why I've put all my Cue/FLAC files on to DVD-RW'S, that way I can compress to whatever format I like and if I ever want to change them I just put the DVD'S into the drive and repeat the compression process for another format. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 12:56 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and Encoding If I had the space, I would rip everything to FLAC. But, If I did so I couldn't fit all my hundreds of CDs onto my two 300 gig external drives. With AAC+, I can. The use of ANY lossy format involves a trade-off between quality and space. To my mind, AAC+ at 192kbps is the best trade-off I've found. Blessed Be, Dana that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized pronunciation dictionary that Dana=dayna. D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: dsleslie Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 11:40 AM Subject: RE: Ripping,Copying and Encoding Now, that makes sense to me. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 5:39 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Ripping,Copying and Encoding Ok, well here's a perfect example why I use Cue and FLAC files, any new format comes along that's superior to another? Then it's a snap to convert the content, particularly with Easy CD DA Extractor. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of albert griffith Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 3:34 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things If I missed something, please bare with me but what are the advantages of acc plus? I'm relatively new at this and I've just converted hundreds of disks to wma lossless in the believe that I'd lose very little in the way of sound quality. Plus someone on one of my lists suggested it.
Re: Lossless formats
Hi Gordon. You should find no difference whatsoever when ripping to wma lossless as the nero ripper, and any other ripper for that matter,will be using a microsoft provided codec. There is much debate on which program will give a better rip but the truth is that it really depends more on your CD-ROM drive. If you have a good drive you'll get consistent rips from any of the programs. Personally I use media player and get excellent rips. Good enough to play through an expensive high end hifi system. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC-Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 3:52 AM Subject: Lossless formats Hi This may seem a stupid question but please humour me. When ripping with different programs, e.g. Nero, Windows Media Player etc. if I wish to use Windows Media Lossless format does it matter which program I use? Is it likely that Media Player might have the better codec as it is a Microsoft program or as I suspect, lossless means lossless in which ever program the files are ripped. I know it shouldn't make any difference, but do some programs get a better and more reliable rip? Regards. Gordon McFarlane Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wma lossless
Hi Gordon. 16 bit with a frequency of 44 khz is exactly right and you will see fluctuations in the resulting bitrates. The bitrates generally fluctuate between 700 and 1000 kbps but it is really dependant on the type of music you're ripping. Complex music will need more than simple music. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC-Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 10:54 AM Subject: wma lossless Hi I feel I should know this by now but I don't. I'm ripping my collection again, this time in wma lossless. I'm baffled by the bitrates I'm getting - it says 16bit and44.1 but the actual bitrates fluctuate depending on the song, from in some cases 190 to 780 etc. Is this truly lossless and can I be sure it's not worse than wav or Apple lossless? Also can I assume that if I rip using 2 machines then I can add the second machine's contents to the first's music folder and that Windows Media Player will add them to the library and treat them as if they'd been ripped on the first machine? Thanks for your help. Gordon McFarlane Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lossless formats
WMA lossless is already available in media player 10. Just go to the ripping tab and select it from there. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Keith Gillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 3:49 PM Subject: Re: Lossless formats Hi, Does one need to download and install a special WMA/Lossless pluggin or, is it already provided in WMP 10? Cheers and Thanks...KG - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 2:39 AM Subject: Re: Lossless formats Hi Gordon. You should find no difference whatsoever when ripping to wma lossless as the nero ripper, and any other ripper for that matter,will be using a microsoft provided codec. There is much debate on which program will give a better rip but the truth is that it really depends more on your CD-ROM drive. If you have a good drive you'll get consistent rips from any of the programs. Personally I use media player and get excellent rips. Good enough to play through an expensive high end hifi system. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC-Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 3:52 AM Subject: Lossless formats Hi This may seem a stupid question but please humour me. When ripping with different programs, e.g. Nero, Windows Media Player etc. if I wish to use Windows Media Lossless format does it matter which program I use? Is it likely that Media Player might have the better codec as it is a Microsoft program or as I suspect, lossless means lossless in which ever program the files are ripped. I know it shouldn't make any difference, but do some programs get a better and more reliable rip? Regards. Gordon McFarlane Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More Goldwave Questions.
The sampling rate for audio CD's is 44 khz Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Vinny Samarco [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 6:19 PM Subject: More Goldwave Questions. Hi, First of allWhat is the sampling rate for commercial cds? II have a player that is about 5 years old and only plays cds, not mp3. The other question I have is that at least with Window-eyes, I am not able to read the sampling rate most times when I go to that prompt. Even yousing the mouse keys, or read current line, the sampling rate only pops up once in a while. Do any of you have this problem? Thanks very much. Vinny Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stereo Receivers and amplifier's
Hi Trace. That's a really open question as the best amplifier you could get could be more than £10,000 with a similar amount for a pair of speakers. However, I'd suggest you take a look at the award winners section of www.superfi.co.uk I've just bought a Roksan Kandy LIII integrated amplifier and a pir of Tannoy DC Sensys speakers for a combined sum of £1,050 and I've been really pleased with them. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 11:21 PM Subject: Stereo Receivers and amplifier's what are the best stereo receivers, and amplifires? that a person can get? money range is not a factor at this time. model number and specks if you could also do so please. thanks sunshine p.s. also what are the best speaker system for the amplifires and stereo receiver? thanks again Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: slight correction, was RE: Those JPG files:
Those JPEG files take up no space at all so I'd recommend keeping them to reproduce CD covers and liners in the future especially if you no longer own the CD. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 7:46 AM Subject: slight correction, was RE: Those JPG files: oops. slight correction, Juliet, papa, echo, golf. the letters J P E G actually stand for Joint photographic experts group. So in this case, it's just an image, probably of the cd cover, or other liner note material or some such thing.some folks choose to include that if they rip a cd for completenesses sake. But if you're blind those images won't even matter. So if you're a completest and want to keep them around you certainly can. but if not, just toss those JPG files away and the cd will play in mp3, or whatever format you chose to rip them in without further problems. At 05:35 PM 11/13/2007, you wrote: Hi. no no this is incorrect. the letters are not J P A G, but JPEG, or phonetically, they would be Juliet, echo, papa, golf. Either way, they have nothing to do with the actual ripping of the music on the cd so just delete the .jpg files. At 02:42 AM 11/13/2007, you wrote: Yaah, I believe jpag means, joint professional access Group -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 9:16 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Those JPG files: JPG files, commonly known as J PEGS are pictures. They're probably just used as cover art for the cd you ripped. just delete the jpgs and you will be fine. At 06:24 AM 11/12/2007, you wrote: I've found I have a number of these now I've ripped a couple of hundred files. Are they necessary to maintain my tags for track and disk information? Is there any other reason to keep them? why are they there in the first place? thanks Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 2652 (2007) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 2654 (20071113) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 2656 (20071113) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: record albums
You could search for the albums on ebay or amazon market place to get an idea of price and list on either of those sites to sell them. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Vicki Wherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC-Audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 10:35 AM Subject: record albums I am going to be selling over 300 record albums, and I would like to know a couple of things before I begin. Does anyone have any suggestions on cleaning up the albums? They aren't too bad, but I'd like to clean them up some. Also, some of these albums are worth quite a lot of money, while others aren't. Is there a website or resource for finding out how to price them? I am also doing the same with close to 300 45's. Thanks. Vicki Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: the worth of bit rates:
Completely agree with John here. Playing music through a good hifi system will reveal lossless format's superiority over mp3 without a doubt. It's easy to think there's no difference playing music on a computer through cheap speakers but you may regret compromising the quality of your collection in the future if you hook up to a good hifi system. MP3 is definitely more boxed in and is missing those high and low frequencies as well as a little midband detail that are obviously stripped away to make the file size smaller. MP3 is great for portable players with limited disc space but that's about all. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 3:29 AM Subject: Re: the worth of bit rates: High Albert, My speaker system was home built by me. I am also using a pare of tube amps that I built from s5 electronic kits. Ripping the same track in MP3 verses Wma lossless sounds a little different. But then again, tubes lets the sound come through as is. MP3's sounds a little watered down while the WMA lossless sounds just like a true audio CD. Hope this helps. John. - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 9:34 PM Subject: the worth of bit rates: I know this is a rather subjective question but I'm just looking for some input here. I've been ripping my disks to the WMA lossless format. However, to make a file easier to send, I ripped the same disk to mp3256kpbs and it was a fifth the size of the track ripped to lossless. Now, I didn't hear a difference but the reason might be because I'm playing the tracks through only fair speakers, about $100 for the pair with a small sub woofer. My question is; do those of you with better sound systems notice a real difference in the quality of these formats?thanks for your input. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.31/1128 - Release Date: 11/13/2007 11:09 AM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Best Ripping format again
I use goldwave to create MP3 copies of my master lossless wma collection for playback on portable devices. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 4:44 AM Subject: Re: The Best Ripping format again What does he use to convert from that format to anything else he might want for use on a portable player? - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd To: PC Audio Discussion List Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 5:43 AM Subject: Re: The Best Ripping format again Hi Gordon. In my opinion, you won't go wrong with WMA lossless. You're guaranteed no loss of quality at the smallest file size with full support for id3 tags. WMA is probably the most well supported format and as it's proprietary to Microsoft, you won't be left with a pup in a few years time as you may be with other niche formats. Don't know if this is supported by the i-tunes interface as I use windows media player library and a program called audigen to manage my music collection. I bought audigen some years ago when media player wasn't as accessible and powerful as it is today but both are great programs for organising music, building playlists, editing tags and much more. I currently have my music collection connected to a Roksan amp and Tannoy speakers so can vouch for the quality of the resulting ripped music. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC-Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 6:34 AM Subject: The Best Ripping format again Hi Apologies for returning to this perennial problem. Before I realised it a while ago I ripped my entire collection of music in Itunes to the wav format in order to preserve best quality. I since discovered I had no tags except those preserved in the Itunes library. In Itunes the files are tagged but taking them outside of this, they lose them. I Can however maintain the tags if I convert the files withing Itunes to Apple lossless or mp3. Having messed up my library by trying to clean it up I now find that there are about 100 albums missing. I'm now considering re-ripping everything into a lossless tagged format. I like the Itunes interface but does this limit me to Apple lossless? Also I have converted some of my wav files to Apple lossless and I thought I noticed some deterioration - is this possible? Is there something better? How about Windows Media files lossless or flec? I know lossless should mean lossless but does it. I really want to rip at the best then convert to different formats to my heart's content while maintaining the tag, and somewhere along the way still use Itunes interface. Any suggestions from that great body of experience out there? One final point are there ways of ripping more than one CD at a time? Thanks in advance. Gordon McFarlane Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.29/1124 - Release Date: 11/11/2007 10:12 AM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Best Ripping format again
Hi Gordon. In my opinion, you won't go wrong with WMA lossless. You're guaranteed no loss of quality at the smallest file size with full support for id3 tags. WMA is probably the most well supported format and as it's proprietary to Microsoft, you won't be left with a pup in a few years time as you may be with other niche formats. Don't know if this is supported by the i-tunes interface as I use windows media player library and a program called audigen to manage my music collection. I bought audigen some years ago when media player wasn't as accessible and powerful as it is today but both are great programs for organising music, building playlists, editing tags and much more. I currently have my music collection connected to a Roksan amp and Tannoy speakers so can vouch for the quality of the resulting ripped music. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC-Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 6:34 AM Subject: The Best Ripping format again Hi Apologies for returning to this perennial problem. Before I realised it a while ago I ripped my entire collection of music in Itunes to the wav format in order to preserve best quality. I since discovered I had no tags except those preserved in the Itunes library. In Itunes the files are tagged but taking them outside of this, they lose them. I Can however maintain the tags if I convert the files withing Itunes to Apple lossless or mp3. Having messed up my library by trying to clean it up I now find that there are about 100 albums missing. I'm now considering re-ripping everything into a lossless tagged format. I like the Itunes interface but does this limit me to Apple lossless? Also I have converted some of my wav files to Apple lossless and I thought I noticed some deterioration - is this possible? Is there something better? How about Windows Media files lossless or flec? I know lossless should mean lossless but does it. I really want to rip at the best then convert to different formats to my heart's content while maintaining the tag, and somewhere along the way still use Itunes interface. Any suggestions from that great body of experience out there? One final point are there ways of ripping more than one CD at a time? Thanks in advance. Gordon McFarlane Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MP3's DVD's and Bit Rates.
Hi Gary. The formats CD, DVD HD and blue Ray are all different as they all use different lasers to read a disc. The wavelength of a laser beam determines how accurately it can read data. So, a blue ray laser is much more smaller a wavelength than a CD laser and so can read a lot more data in the same physical space. There are also differences in the density of data stored on the discs so a disc produced for DVD will hold more data in the same physical space than could be stored on a traditional CD. This is very much a layman's description but hope it helps explain the differences. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 4:25 PM Subject: Re: MP3's DVD's and Bit Rates. Thanks, Jerry! What makes a DVD hold more material, since DVD's are the same size as CD's? - Original Message - From: Jerry Richer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 11:37 AM Subject: Re: MP3's DVD's and Bit Rates. DVD's have nothing to do with any king of file format. They just hold much more data than a CD. An MP3 or Wave file on a CD or DVD is the same size. Jerry Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! Edirol R-09: high quality portable stereo Secure Digital Audio recorder with USB, $359.00, includes delivery within the USA, add $35.00 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/edirol.shtml ! DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, includes delivery within the USA, add $35 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml ! J-Say 4.0 without Naturally Speaking: $650.00, www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml ! Window Eyes 6.0: $895, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml ! Triple Talk: USB $450, PCI $350, includes delivery within the USA, add $35 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/tripletalk.shtml ! Sound Forge 9.0 with CD Architect 5.2 and Noise Reduction 2.0: $250, includes delivery within the USA, add $35 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! We accept PayPal All Major Credit Cards, money orders, checks, wire transfers, etc. We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml Reach BA Software in the United States at: Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Queuing up a file
As far as the music goes, you could create a playlist in windows media player containing all the tracks you want to play in the sequence you want to play them. You can set JAWS not to echo your key presses and use control + P to play and pause as required and control + F to go to the next track. To stop the next track starting straight away, you could record 5 minutes of digital silence and insert this track between each of your music tracks. This would give you chance to do what you want to do before hitting control + F when you're ready to play the next real track. There's probably better DJ software out there that'll do this but this is cheap and cheerful and you won't need to leave media player at all. Think you'll be able to intersperse your video files in the playlist but I haven't really played with this so couldn't say for definite. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC-Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 6:43 AM Subject: Queuing up a file Hi I'm producing a concert in an old folks home and wish to have all the music and video files easily accessible. We're showing some files on a projection screen and I would like to have a program like Windows Media Player on screen with a nice picture in view all the time but would like to use keypresses to move from one file to the next without the file folder appearing on the screen. I also wish each file to stop when it is finished and not run into the next one until I'm ready to call it. Any ideas. Gordon McFarlane Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A windows Media Player question?
I'd be very surprised if the media library were not accessible in version 11 as it's completely accessible in version 10. If you have version 11 currently installed it's likely that the default is still in place which will add all tracks played into the media library. So, go to the view menu with alt + V, arrow down to the Go To submenu, or press G to get there quickly, and then arrow down to library and press enter. You've now opened the library. Press tab until you reach the tree view and use the down arrow to see the categories such as album, artist, genre, etc. Use the right arrow to open any of these categories to browse further. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 2:24 PM Subject: A windows Media Player question? Is the library in version eleven accessible? I've decided to rip in WMA lossless and it would be easier if I could just allow the media player to save them in its library if it's accessible. thanks Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bit rates and space used:
I have around 800 albums ripped in lossless WMA format and they take up 290 GB. On average the bitrates are around the 900kbps mark. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 2:53 PM Subject: Bit rates and space used: Someone posted they'd ripped around 450 disks to their drive and they took up around 300 gigs. At what bit rate was this? thanks Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mp3 files
You can create an auto playlist in windows media player that will allow you to create a random playlist of any size you wish and then synchronise to your portable player. I do this all the time to fill my 1GB stone. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: PRODUCTIONS BEAUSOLEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 12:54 PM Subject: Re: mp3 files is it possible to do that with winamp? Richard Beausoleil PRODUCTIONS BEAUSOLEIL Arrangements musicaux Studio multi-pistes Démo vocal Tél : (514) 924-0411 Courriel : [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Christopher Bartlett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 8:21 PM Subject: Re: mp3 files Search for a program called Music IP Mixer, which will create play lists based on a seed list or song and I believe will allow you to load up a portable device or drive with the selected music. Christopher Bartlett At 10:48 AM 10/21/2007, you wrote: Hi all I am a new member on this list. I would like to know how to view my mp3 files in a folder in a random way to copy it on a sd card to listen it in another device. thanks Richard Beausoleil PRODUCTIONS BEAUSOLEIL Arrangements musicaux Studio multi-pistes Démo vocal Tél : (514) 924-0411 Courriel : [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Richard Beausoleil PRODUCTIONS BEAUSOLEIL Arrangements musicaux Studio multi-pistes Démo vocal Tél : (514) 924-0411 Courriel : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.3/1081 - Release Date: 2007-10-19 17:41 Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CD Burning Problem
If the tracks have been ripped from a CD drive with no offset problems, you should be able to join them together using goldwave. I've done this many, many times, especially with Pink Floyd albums and the results have been seemless. If the drive they were ripped from does have a slight offset problem it might explain a noticeable blip between the track joins. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dan Kerstetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 6:46 PM Subject: CD Burning Problem I'm using Nero Burning Rom to burn some CD's which have tracks which run together--most notably, Pink Floyd and Chicago. No matter what I do I cannot get the transitions between tracks to go smoothly. I've even tried a couple different ideas in GoldWave. I would appreciate any ideas on how to correct this problem. Thanks. Dan Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Winamp vs WMP
Windows media player will certainly tell you time elapsed. Tab to the current position edit field and here you'll find a constantly refreshed time elapsed. I haven't seen time remaining and overall time but I'd be surprised if it weren't there. Perhaps check out the help pages if you're interested. They're pretty comprehensive. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Morey Worthington [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pc-audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 1:45 PM Subject: Winamp vs WMP One feature that Winamp has that WMP does not (that I cannot find if it does), is the ability of showing the 3 segments of total tiem, time played, and time left, of a playing file. Does WMP have this? Thanks, Morey Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Winamp vs WMP
There's a whole web site dedicated to windows media player plug ins. You can either download direct from there or ask the player to go and look for plug ins and download them. These provide support for those file types as well as a range of other features. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Richard Claypool [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:45 PM Subject: Re: Winamp vs WMP another feature that winamp has is that one can add in any plugin that one wants within reason. So you can have more filetypes supported like shn ogg flac etc etc etc. msn [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim rclaypo skype lord_of_beer - Original Message - From: Morey Worthington [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pc-audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 8:45 AM Subject: Winamp vs WMP One feature that Winamp has that WMP does not (that I cannot find if it does), is the ability of showing the 3 segments of total tiem, time played, and time left, of a playing file. Does WMP have this? Thanks, Morey Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Winamp vs WMP
Here's a couple of url's for windows media player plugins http://www.wmplugins.com/ http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/player/plugins.aspx Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Mac Norins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 6:11 PM Subject: Re: Winamp vs WMP Besides being able to tell the player to search for them, do you have the URL for this page? -Mac- - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:47 PM Subject: Re: Winamp vs WMP There's a whole web site dedicated to windows media player plug ins. You can either download direct from there or ask the player to go and look for plug ins and download them. These provide support for those file types as well as a range of other features. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Richard Claypool [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:45 PM Subject: Re: Winamp vs WMP another feature that winamp has is that one can add in any plugin that one wants within reason. So you can have more filetypes supported like shn ogg flac etc etc etc. msn [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim rclaypo skype lord_of_beer - Original Message - From: Morey Worthington [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pc-audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 8:45 AM Subject: Winamp vs WMP One feature that Winamp has that WMP does not (that I cannot find if it does), is the ability of showing the 3 segments of total tiem, time played, and time left, of a playing file. Does WMP have this? Thanks, Morey Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting track titles from CD when ripping to MP3
Hi Curtis. There are a number of plug ins for OGG in windows media player but I haven't come across one for M4A. Mind you, I don't use media player for spoken word so would never have needed to venture to such a low bitrate. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Curtis Delzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 8:07 PM Subject: Re: Getting track titles from CD when ripping to MP3 Also, wmp doesn't have inside it a way to play *.ogg files that I know of, or m4A, m4B, and others. M4A are superlative for low bit rate, far outstripping *.ogg for sound quality. I have made m4A files using Easy CD-DA Extractor at 20Kbps which are really superlative! Curtis Delzer - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 2:05 AM Subject: Re: Getting track titles from CD when ripping to MP3 I'm using media player version 10 with JFW version 5.0. Yes, you can skip forward and backwards in a track using the seek slider. Just tab until you hear seek and then use your right and left arrow keys. Yes, there are plug ins but I personally haven't played with them to date. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 9:32 PM Subject: Re: Getting track titles from CD when ripping to MP3 Three questions: What version are you talking about? Can you move within a track as you can with Winamp? Are there plug-ins to convert formats? - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd To: PC Audio Discussion List Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: Re: Getting track titles from CD when ripping to MP3 Hi Kelly. Windows media player is a very accessible animal these days and is worth anyone taking another look. It's media library is completely accessible and easy to use unlike winamp which bounces from version to version breaking and fixing the library. It is easy to select which tracks you wish to rip using only your PC cursor and spacebar. No need here for use of the JAWS cursor or equivalent and no struggles trying to work out what is checked or not as is the case with Easy Cd extractor. All ripping functions are configurable and all functions are accessible using tab, spacebar, application key and options from the menu bar. In other words completely windows standard. In my opinion it's a better player than winamp. Just listen to a live album or concept album where the tracks merge to see how seemlessly media player will do this compared to winamp. We're all a little guilty of sticking with our favourite programs and probably not looking around enough for alternatives. Winamp has been used for years by blind users and windows media player was once not very accessible at all. Times have changed. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Kelly Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 4:46 PM Subject: Re: Getting track titles from CD when ripping to MP3 One of the benefits of using a stand alone CD ripper such as CDEX or Exact Audio Copy is that these programs are highly configurable. Both programs allow you take the CDDB information about the disc and have it displayed in many different ways, depending upon user preferences. Often, mass market all-in-one offerings that do a number of tasks, such as Windows Media player, may not do all of them well. Win Media can play audio files, rip CD's, and burn CD's and do it less accessibly with fewer options than Winamp, EAC and Nero. Kelly - Original Message - From: Dale E. Heltzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 7:28 PM Subject: Getting track titles from CD when ripping to MP3 So how do I get the track titles to either appear as the file name or as the Title field in an MP3 file I'm ripping from an audio CD? I can use MS Media Player 10, or Audition 1.5. Currently, I get only track and the number, with nothing in the information fields. TIA Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found
Re: A CDEX question:
These sound like the quality settings for variable bitrate. If I remember correctly, 0 means highest quality. Check out the CDEX help pages for more imformation, there's some useful stuff about settings in there. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 6:11 AM Subject: A CDEX question: On the first page of the preferences it asks me to choose an encoder. I do and it asks me for a compression level. I don't know what the numbers, 1 through 9 mean. I'm familiar with bit rates and such and I've seen numbers with corresponding values but there seem to be none of those here. so, how do I interpret these? thanks Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A conversion question:
An uncompressed lossless track from an audio CD is approximately 3 times larger than it's MP3 equivalent encoded at 320 kbps. Typically, the uncompressed track would be around the 30 meg mark for a 5 minute track whereas the MP3 equivalent would be around the 10 meg mark. If you're ripping in a compressed lossy format like MP3 then you'd probably be better to use variable bitrate rather than constant. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 5:49 AM Subject: A conversion question: If I convert a standard file on a CD to 320KBPs MP3 format, will it be approximately the same size as the original? thanks Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Rippers and Conversion Packages
Typical errors from bad rips include: start of track and end of track blips - that is a millisecond of the previous or next track included in the ripped track. Very typical for CD-ROMS that haven't got offsets configured correctly. Jitter - portions of the track with very minor little pieces of what sounds like stutter or echo. Skipping - tracks sounding like they're being fast forwarded for short intervals almost like when using cue and review. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 9:28 PM Subject: Re: Rippers and Conversion Packages I understand. One of my questions is, how do these errors manifest themselves besides unplayable tracks, that is. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan To: PC Audio Discussion List Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 12:31 PM Subject: Re: Rippers and Conversion Packages I would also add to this message, if you can configure CDEX then you'll have absolutely no problem with EAC and you'll enjoy loads of benefits including error-free rips, that's why EAC was written in the first place, the author was sick of all these so-called rippers and their claims of accurate results. On 06/10/2007, at 1:30 AM, albert griffith wrote: EAC is quite configurable but it's kind of a geek's program in that few operations are automatic. If you haven't, check out CDEX. It's not commercial but easier to use than EAC. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 8:39 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Rippers and Conversion Packages I'm having to do some kinds of audio things I haven't done much and it's making me think seriously about changing applications. What formats does EAC support or what can it be made to support with plug-ins? Can it be used to backup files and folders? Does it support dvds? Lastly, it has enormous flexibility in ripping cds, but how much of that's really necessary and when? I've done ripping with Nero up till now and haven't had many problems as far as I can tell. Thanks for the help. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia Phone +613 9747 3975 Fax +613 9743 7954 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: callto:grtdane12 *** Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server authentication. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.0/1049 - Release Date: 10/4/2007 8:59 AM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting track titles from CD when ripping to MP3
I'm using media player version 10 with JFW version 5.0. Yes, you can skip forward and backwards in a track using the seek slider. Just tab until you hear seek and then use your right and left arrow keys. Yes, there are plug ins but I personally haven't played with them to date. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 9:32 PM Subject: Re: Getting track titles from CD when ripping to MP3 Three questions: What version are you talking about? Can you move within a track as you can with Winamp? Are there plug-ins to convert formats? - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd To: PC Audio Discussion List Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: Re: Getting track titles from CD when ripping to MP3 Hi Kelly. Windows media player is a very accessible animal these days and is worth anyone taking another look. It's media library is completely accessible and easy to use unlike winamp which bounces from version to version breaking and fixing the library. It is easy to select which tracks you wish to rip using only your PC cursor and spacebar. No need here for use of the JAWS cursor or equivalent and no struggles trying to work out what is checked or not as is the case with Easy Cd extractor. All ripping functions are configurable and all functions are accessible using tab, spacebar, application key and options from the menu bar. In other words completely windows standard. In my opinion it's a better player than winamp. Just listen to a live album or concept album where the tracks merge to see how seemlessly media player will do this compared to winamp. We're all a little guilty of sticking with our favourite programs and probably not looking around enough for alternatives. Winamp has been used for years by blind users and windows media player was once not very accessible at all. Times have changed. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Kelly Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 4:46 PM Subject: Re: Getting track titles from CD when ripping to MP3 One of the benefits of using a stand alone CD ripper such as CDEX or Exact Audio Copy is that these programs are highly configurable. Both programs allow you take the CDDB information about the disc and have it displayed in many different ways, depending upon user preferences. Often, mass market all-in-one offerings that do a number of tasks, such as Windows Media player, may not do all of them well. Win Media can play audio files, rip CD's, and burn CD's and do it less accessibly with fewer options than Winamp, EAC and Nero. Kelly - Original Message - From: Dale E. Heltzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 7:28 PM Subject: Getting track titles from CD when ripping to MP3 So how do I get the track titles to either appear as the file name or as the Title field in an MP3 file I'm ripping from an audio CD? I can use MS Media Player 10, or Audition 1.5. Currently, I get only track and the number, with nothing in the information fields. TIA Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.0/1049 - Release Date: 10/4/2007 8:59 AM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A CDEX question:
] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 9:16 AM Subject: RE: A CDEX question: I tried to enter their help files but was told it's not in a format used by windows any longer. are there separate help files somewhere? I'm using Vista and this help files problem isn't uncommon. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 1:56 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: A CDEX question: These sound like the quality settings for variable bitrate. If I remember correctly, 0 means highest quality. Check out the CDEX help pages for more imformation, there's some useful stuff about settings in there. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 6:11 AM Subject: A CDEX question: On the first page of the preferences it asks me to choose an encoder. I do and it asks me for a compression level. I don't know what the numbers, 1 through 9 mean. I'm familiar with bit rates and such and I've seen numbers with corresponding values but there seem to be none of those here. so, how do I interpret these? thanks Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Meta Data
Bye metadata I assume you mean ID3 tag information? If so, in media player, browse to the track in your library, hit the applications key and select edit tag. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 12:22 PM Subject: Meta Data Where do you enter meta data in Nero 7 or WMP? Can either system import meta data which it will pass on if you convert to mp3 or some other format? Thanks in advance as always. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A conversion question:
I think it'd be very good but good luck in being able to work that one out! Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: David Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 2:03 PM Subject: RE: A conversion question: Kevin, I am thinking of writing a small program which would calculate the size of lossy non-lossy conversions. Do you imagine people would find this of any use. I tend to work it out in my head, but it sould be nice to have a program which did it for you. Dave. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: 06 October 2007 07:53 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: A conversion question: An uncompressed lossless track from an audio CD is approximately 3 times larger than it's MP3 equivalent encoded at 320 kbps. Typically, the uncompressed track would be around the 30 meg mark for a 5 minute track whereas the MP3 equivalent would be around the 10 meg mark. If you're ripping in a compressed lossy format like MP3 then you'd probably be better to use variable bitrate rather than constant. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 5:49 AM Subject: A conversion question: If I convert a standard file on a CD to 320KBPs MP3 format, will it be approximately the same size as the original? thanks Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.1/1050 - Release Date: 04/10/2007 17:03 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.1/1050 - Release Date: 04/10/2007 17:03 Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A CDEX question:
No. Lossless has got nothing to do with bitrates being constant or variable as such. It's all about keeping the music intact and identical to the original. If you can do this with variable bitrates then you're going to get the best result in the smallest file size so it's more likely that lossless uses variable bitrates. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 12:18 PM Subject: Re: A CDEX question: I thought lossless formats were constant, without variability? - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd To: PC Audio Discussion List Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 2:55 AM Subject: Re: A CDEX question: These sound like the quality settings for variable bitrate. If I remember correctly, 0 means highest quality. Check out the CDEX help pages for more imformation, there's some useful stuff about settings in there. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 6:11 AM Subject: A CDEX question: On the first page of the preferences it asks me to choose an encoder. I do and it asks me for a compression level. I don't know what the numbers, 1 through 9 mean. I'm familiar with bit rates and such and I've seen numbers with corresponding values but there seem to be none of those here. so, how do I interpret these? thanks Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.0/1049 - Release Date: 10/4/2007 8:59 AM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting track titles from CD when ripping to MP3
Hi Kelly. Windows media player is a very accessible animal these days and is worth anyone taking another look. It's media library is completely accessible and easy to use unlike winamp which bounces from version to version breaking and fixing the library. It is easy to select which tracks you wish to rip using only your PC cursor and spacebar. No need here for use of the JAWS cursor or equivalent and no struggles trying to work out what is checked or not as is the case with Easy Cd extractor. All ripping functions are configurable and all functions are accessible using tab, spacebar, application key and options from the menu bar. In other words completely windows standard. In my opinion it's a better player than winamp. Just listen to a live album or concept album where the tracks merge to see how seemlessly media player will do this compared to winamp. We're all a little guilty of sticking with our favourite programs and probably not looking around enough for alternatives. Winamp has been used for years by blind users and windows media player was once not very accessible at all. Times have changed. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Kelly Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 4:46 PM Subject: Re: Getting track titles from CD when ripping to MP3 One of the benefits of using a stand alone CD ripper such as CDEX or Exact Audio Copy is that these programs are highly configurable. Both programs allow you take the CDDB information about the disc and have it displayed in many different ways, depending upon user preferences. Often, mass market all-in-one offerings that do a number of tasks, such as Windows Media player, may not do all of them well. Win Media can play audio files, rip CD's, and burn CD's and do it less accessibly with fewer options than Winamp, EAC and Nero. Kelly - Original Message - From: Dale E. Heltzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 7:28 PM Subject: Getting track titles from CD when ripping to MP3 So how do I get the track titles to either appear as the file name or as the Title field in an MP3 file I'm ripping from an audio CD? I can use MS Media Player 10, or Audition 1.5. Currently, I get only track and the number, with nothing in the information fields. TIA Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ripping software:
Hi Albert. Assume you mean windows media player in your question? If so, it's as quick as any other ripper. Of course, you should check the error correction checkbox to make sure you get quality results which will slow the rip necessarily. You can set the ripping options to eject the CD on completion of the rip and also to rip the CD as soon as it's inserted. If you use the automatically rip when the CD is inserted, beware of two issues: 1. That you are connected so that the ID3 information can be retrieved before the rip starts 2. There are some CD's where for some mysterious reason, certain tracks are unchecked by default and therefore not ripped automatically. It's prudent to go back and check that all tracks have been ripped when you're done. This is easier than you think. Just open each album folder and go to the bottom. If the track number is equal to the number of files in the folder all is well. If not, go back and do those CD's manually selecting only the tracks that are missing. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 3:57 AM Subject: ripping software: I've almost decided on the format to use when I rip 650 disks to a drive. How does windows compare with other rippers in terms of speed? Given the number of disks I'm dealing with, this could be important. thanks Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Alternative to CDex
or try windows media player. It's free, already on your computer and developed by the software engineers that invented the WMA format, adopted by almost all legal music download providers as the format to deliver the best quality digital music downloads. It has error correction, allows you to rip to either WMA or MP3 and is completely accessible and easy to use. No messing about trying to work out what tracks are selected for ripping and which ones aren't in this program. It can also provide all your music library needs including creation of playlists and auto playlists and will synchronise a portable player and burn CD's for you as well. Not bad for free! Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 4:16 PM Subject: Re: Alternative to CDex Or try the latest version of Exact Audio Copy if exact and error free results are what you're after. On 17/09/2007, at 1:05 AM, Ibby Karbhari wrote: Dan, Easy CD-DA Extractor - Music Converter Easy CD-DA Extractor: The 'Swiss Army Knife of Digital Audio' : CD Ripper, Music Converter and CD Burner. My view, the best on the market! Version: 10.5.1 NEW! Release Date: 31 August 2007 File Size: 5.41 MB Website: http://www.poikosoft.com/ Good luck, download and try it out , and enjoy! Ibby Karbhari • Phone: 020 7193 8755 • Mobile: 07017 41 41 41 • If you have Skype installed on your Pc You can also talk with me on Skype by clicking on my username IbbyKar E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site Visit: http://www.moving-mountains.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] audio.org] On Behalf Of Dan Kerstetter Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 3:33 PM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Alternative to CDex I believe it was on this list that someone posted information about another third party ripping program besides CDex. Could the person who posted that info please post a link from which it can be downloaded? Thanks. Dan Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.21/1010 - Release Date: 15/09/2007 19:54 Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone uk 0121 288 4976 Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 Fax +61 3 9743 7954 mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 Skype: callto:grtdane12 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server authentication. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: windows media
Hi. I'm using windows media player to synch with my creative zen with no problems at all. I'm using version 10 with JAWS version 5.0. All with spoken feedback. I use media player sometimes rather than windows explorer because I like the auto playlists feature in media player. I've created two auto playlists that I use a lot. The first selects 1 GB of randomly selected tracks from my collection of 10,000 tracks and the other selects 1 GB worth of recently ripped tracks that I've added to my collection in the last 30 days. Every time media player is started or, in fact, every time the playlist is opened, it is automatically refreshed with a new selection of tracks. With a couple of tabs and presses of the spacebar to select synch and then start synch, the job's a good 'un. Media player will tell you which tracks are available and which may not fit, maybe because the zen still has a few tracks left on it. In this case I've simply alt tabbed to the zen folder, deleted the tracks and then media player has told me that all tracks are available to be synchronised. You get a running count of how many tracks have been synchronised as it goes and, of course, you can refresh the zen folder to confirm what's being moved over. As you can see above, no problems whatsoever in synchronising with media player for a totally blind user. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Robert Hebert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 8:06 PM Subject: Re: windows media Glad to hear that windows media is now fully accessible as I have been trying to sinc music tracks to a portable media device for which the windows explorer interface does not work so I am forced to use windows media. The only message I here is to drag items here and as a totally blind person, the here means nothing to me. Others have raised the same question on this list and as far as any posts I have read, noone has an answer for this dilemma for a blind person. Maybe though you have found a way around this issue and if so, I and no doubt many others on this list would like to know how to perform this action using strictly speech prompts. Thanks and sure hope someone finally has an answer for me. - Original Message - From: Cornell Ligon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 11:42 PM Subject: RE: windows media Hi, Yes, it's fully accessible as someone noted - even versions 10 and 11... I'm using version 11 and JFW 6.2 with no problems. also, as a side note, if you're primarily interseted in quality and will only playback using the comp, try ripping in WMA format. It sounds beter than MP3, at least to me it does... Best Regards, Cornell Original Message Follows From: GianniP46 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: windows media Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 22:29:38 -0400 Is windows media accessible? Does it produce good mp3s? What version should I try. - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd To: PC Audio Discussion List Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 8:27 AM Subject: Re: Some CDEX questions Hi. Windows media player has error correction so be sure to set it if you're using this program to rip audio CD's. It will rip much more slowly when this is enabled but you will get excellent results. To set the error correction flag, go to tools, options and locate the audio tab. Press enter on the properties button for your CD/DVD drives and then check the checkboxes to set error correction on. The CD transport in your computer is key to getting good results. As mentioned, EAC will scan until it finds 2 close matches in extracted WAV forms but that doesn't mean that it's perfect as if your CD transport isn't great then you'll get some very close imperfect WAV files and it'll have just taken you longer to get there. I've found laptops have the best CD transports as they tend to have a raised middle onto which you can press the CD and have it held firmly. CD transports I've seen on desktops have been quite flimsy at times and the disc can slide about when spinning. This is a great way to generate lots of jitter, particularly on the latter tracks which are on the outside of the disc and so are therefore being rocked around a lot more than the inner tracks on a flimsy transport. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: GianniP46 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 5:48 AM Subject: Re: Some CDEX questions Does winamp, windows media, or ITunes have error correction, wave form comparison, or rescanning of tracks
Re: What Player
The Victor Stream though is very much a book reader rather than a music player so you need to decide what's your priority, music or books. If music then the zen stone could well be your best bet as it's built specifically with music playback in mind so no question you'll get a better sound quality. If it's books then the Stream would probably be the best choice. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 2:03 PM Subject: Re: What Player You know that if you run rockbox you immediately get rid off the abbility to play protected content? If you're going to spend a lot of money on a player wait a month and then take a look at the Victor Reader Stream. Deffinately speaks better and will be able to play windows media plus uses high capacity secure media. On Sep 8, 2007, at 8:04 AM, Gary Petraccaro wrote: I'm considering buying an mp3 player. I've not paid all that much attention to this topic in the past and need to ask some Very basic questions. One is what would go into making the choice between something that would use RockBox as opposed to the ZenStone? What would be the different features? If RockBox, what players are we talking aboutand what price range? Could all of these devices be plugged into a stereo or auto player? Thanks. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mp3 question
Hi. VBR is recognised as the best way to rip to both maximise the sound quality while at the same time minimise the file size. If you set your lower limit to 128kbps and your upper limit to 320kbps and choose the highest quality then you won't hear any difference between that track and one ripped at 320kbps constant bitrate. You will though have a smaller file as the encoder will use what it needs to gain the best results. I use these settings when I'm producing mp3's for my portable player and typically the files come out at around the 256kbps mark. Less complex music may yield lower bitrates. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: GianniP46 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PCAudioList pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 5:51 AM Subject: mp3 question What is better CBR, VBR or ABR for encoding mp3s? Gian Carlo Pedulla [EMAIL PROTECTED] LETS! GO! METS! Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Some CDEX questions
Hi. Windows media player has error correction so be sure to set it if you're using this program to rip audio CD's. It will rip much more slowly when this is enabled but you will get excellent results. To set the error correction flag, go to tools, options and locate the audio tab. Press enter on the properties button for your CD/DVD drives and then check the checkboxes to set error correction on. The CD transport in your computer is key to getting good results. As mentioned, EAC will scan until it finds 2 close matches in extracted WAV forms but that doesn't mean that it's perfect as if your CD transport isn't great then you'll get some very close imperfect WAV files and it'll have just taken you longer to get there. I've found laptops have the best CD transports as they tend to have a raised middle onto which you can press the CD and have it held firmly. CD transports I've seen on desktops have been quite flimsy at times and the disc can slide about when spinning. This is a great way to generate lots of jitter, particularly on the latter tracks which are on the outside of the disc and so are therefore being rocked around a lot more than the inner tracks on a flimsy transport. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: GianniP46 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 5:48 AM Subject: Re: Some CDEX questions Does winamp, windows media, or ITunes have error correction, wave form comparison, or rescanning of tracks? Or is eac the only program that does this. Will definitely look in to it. - Original Message - From: Kelly Pierce To: PC Audio Discussion List Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 11:26 PM Subject: Re: Some CDEX questions Not necessarily. CDEX doesn't have error correction and wave form comparison, rescanning the same track two dozen times. EAC can often salvage a scratched disc. there is much discussion on the Internet comparing the two programs, check it out. Kelly - Original Message - From: GianniP46 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 9:49 PM Subject: Re: Some CDEX questions a lot of my D.J. friends are ripping in either I tunes or windows media player at about 192 or 256. If I use CDEX with the insane settings wont that be just as good if not better? - Original Message - From: Kelly Pierce To: PC Audio Discussion List Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 10:21 PM Subject: Re: Some CDEX questions if you really want the highest quality rips possible, use Exact Audio copy with the Lame extreme preset. With the current version of Lame, variable bit rates with joint stereo deliver the extra fullness and richness when it is needed. EAC does offer a preset for 320 CBR, but the developer calls this setting insane. EAC, unlike CDEX, scans each track, looking for two exactly identical wave forms or the closest exact match possible. It repeatedly scans a tract, dozens of times if needed, before ripping it. CDEX does not perform this error checking analysis. If you want the best rips in town, use EAC. It takes longer to learn, but the rips sound really great. CDEX is easy to use and I still rip audio books with it. For industrial strength music output, I use EAC. Kelly - Original Message - From: GianniP46 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PCAudioList pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 7:46 PM Subject: Some CDEX questions Hi, I got cdex installed, but I have some questions about the configuration options. What is the best quality setting for MP3s? I want my bitrates to be 320 at a constant bitrate as I heard that constant bitrates are the best. Is that true? Is CBR the best? Is it good to enable jitter correction? Also, What is the best ripping method to use. I want to create the best mp3s with the highest quality possible with no artifacts. I am a D.J. and will be using my mp3s for gigs. Thanks to all in advance! Gian Carlo Pedulla [EMAIL PROTECTED] LETS! GO! METS! Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.3/986 - Release Date: 9/3/2007 9:31 AM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To
Re: Output format tips needed:
Hi. If you're looking to retain exact audio copies of your CD's before selling them then you'll need to use a lossless format. I'd recommend lossless WMA and using windows media player to rip your CD's rather than nero. As you're probably aware, next to MP3, WMA is the most commonly supported format. It's also a proprietary microsoft format and I don't see microsoft going away any day soon so the longevity of the format should be guaranteed over any other. Lossless formats take up around 50 to 75% of the original CDDA equivalent so you'll need a lot of disc space to hold 650 CD's. I've currently got around 700 CD's ripped in lossless format and they're taking up just over 270GB of disc space. You'll also need to back up your hard drive because if you have a hard drive failure, you're going to want to get your music back from your saves. I currently use 3 hard drives, a master and 2 back up drives. WAV files will take up more space than lossless WMA or FLAC files and they don't support ID3 tags so I would disuade you of using this format. They don't sound any better than lossless formats either so I don't see why anyone would waste disc space on this format. If you use windows media player to rip your collection you'll be able to set it up to automatically start ripping when you insert a CD and eject it on completion. I don't think you can do this with nero but I could be wrong. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: Output format tips needed: I have 650 audio disks I plan to rip to my external drive. Since I'm going to sell the disks want the sound to be of really good quality but I can't afford to make duplicates in CDA format. I'd also like to be in a position to change the format if a new one comes along that's enough better to justify it. I plan to use, Nero 7 Ultra Edition and rip to flak but I'm open to all suggestions. also, I've used Roxio products for years but I switched because the latest version of their program was less accessible than Nero. therefore, if anyone has a tutorial or general configuration tips, I'd love to hear them. Thanks in advance. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Output format tips needed:
Yep, with today's cheap hard drive prices, why settle for anything less than the quality of a purchased music CD? Of course, you can then create other formats from your perfect lossless masters such as lower bitrate mp3's to play on portables where disc space is at a premium. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 2:44 PM Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: High Kevin, this is Mr. John Price. This is exactly what I do. I have Wenamp V5.35, but when I want to rip CDs, I fall back on Windows Media Player to do it. And I rip all of my Cds in the WMA lossless format. And so when I make compilation CDs, they turn out sounding like store bought Cds. Maybe the others will ketch on. - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:30 AM Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: Hi. If you're looking to retain exact audio copies of your CD's before selling them then you'll need to use a lossless format. I'd recommend lossless WMA and using windows media player to rip your CD's rather than nero. As you're probably aware, next to MP3, WMA is the most commonly supported format. It's also a proprietary microsoft format and I don't see microsoft going away any day soon so the longevity of the format should be guaranteed over any other. Lossless formats take up around 50 to 75% of the original CDDA equivalent so you'll need a lot of disc space to hold 650 CD's. I've currently got around 700 CD's ripped in lossless format and they're taking up just over 270GB of disc space. You'll also need to back up your hard drive because if you have a hard drive failure, you're going to want to get your music back from your saves. I currently use 3 hard drives, a master and 2 back up drives. WAV files will take up more space than lossless WMA or FLAC files and they don't support ID3 tags so I would disuade you of using this format. They don't sound any better than lossless formats either so I don't see why anyone would waste disc space on this format. If you use windows media player to rip your collection you'll be able to set it up to automatically start ripping when you insert a CD and eject it on completion. I don't think you can do this with nero but I could be wrong. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: Output format tips needed: I have 650 audio disks I plan to rip to my external drive. Since I'm going to sell the disks want the sound to be of really good quality but I can't afford to make duplicates in CDA format. I'd also like to be in a position to change the format if a new one comes along that's enough better to justify it. I plan to use, Nero 7 Ultra Edition and rip to flak but I'm open to all suggestions. also, I've used Roxio products for years but I switched because the latest version of their program was less accessible than Nero. therefore, if anyone has a tutorial or general configuration tips, I'd love to hear them. Thanks in advance. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.1/982 - Release Date: 8/31/2007 5:21 PM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mp3 converters
Hi Mark. Both programs are accessible and easy to use. With CDEX, you insert your CD and hit either F8 to rip into WAV format or f9 to rip into mp3 format. With media player, you can either set it up to rip automatically whenever a CD is inserted or tab down to the list of tracks, check those you want to rip and then tab to the rip button and press spacebar. Makes me wonder why anyone would pay for a ripper when these two are free and fully accessible - no fiddling around trying to work out what track is selected and which isn't with these two. With regards to better, well, media player does it for me because CDEX can't rip into lossless WMA format which is my preferred format. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: mark bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 3:52 PM Subject: Re: mp3 converters is Cdex better and easier to use than window media player? - Original Message - From: Kenneth Suratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 5:01 PM Subject: Re: mp3 converters why don't you use c dex. it will save directly to mp3. - Original Message - From: GianniP46 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PCAudioList pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 2:47 AM Subject: mp3 converters Hi, What will do the best job as far as converting waves to mp3s? How do you guys feel about Sound Forge or Winamp for this process? Is one better then the other? Gian Carlo Pedulla [EMAIL PROTECTED] LETS! GO! METS! Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Output format tips needed:
Hi Albert. The praise would be high for Aac Plus on Live365 as the Aac Plus format is very good at delivering a decent sound quality at very low bitrates. This will not approach a lossless format and, if in the future you decided to go to another format, you would lose more quality in trying to convert from Aac Plus. Here's a brief summary of the messing with the sound that Aac Plus does to achieve it's goal of providing cheap internet radio: AacPlus works by combining three technologies, each of which shrinks the size of an audio signal. The first is AAC, the Advanced Audio Coding technique that Apple licensed from Dolby for iTunes. AAC analyzes the sound and throws away any data it knows human ears won't be able to hear, which is a lot. Then, aacPlus adds Spectral Band Replication, which strips out all of the music's high frequencies and replaces them with a tiny bit of analytical data. AacPlus players reconstruct the highs as a mathematical function of what's left. As a final space-saving trick, aacPlus tracks are recorded in parametric stereo. Instead of a left and a right channel, one channel is the sum of the left and right signals (L+R), and the other is their difference (L-R). This takes up less bandwidth, and the player can easily flip the two channels back to the original left and right. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 7:02 PM Subject: RE: Output format tips needed: The have high praise for AAC on the Live 365 pages. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:57 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: Yep, an excellent format actually, if you want to hear how good it is then you can hear AAC+ streams at http://www.tuner2.com but I'm not sure whether its as good as a lossless format such as FLAC, as far as I'm aware AAC+ isn't a lossless format so that being the case, there's going to be some sort of sound degradation. On 03/09/2007, at 3:50 AM, albert griffith wrote: I'm looking in to that format as well, thanks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] audio.org] On Behalf Of Sunshine Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:36 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: i would also recomand Aac plus the file size is smaller and sounds just as good if not better then wma. lossless. - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:41 AM Subject: RE: Output format tips needed: Kevin, thanks for the Info. I'm doing quite a bit of research because the project is rather large and I can't afford to make mistakes. Once the disks are sold, I'm left with the copies, no matter the quality of the conversion. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 6:31 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: Hi. If you're looking to retain exact audio copies of your CD's before selling them then you'll need to use a lossless format. I'd recommend lossless WMA and using windows media player to rip your CD's rather than nero. As you're probably aware, next to MP3, WMA is the most commonly supported format. It's also a proprietary microsoft format and I don't see microsoft going away any day soon so the longevity of the format should be guaranteed over any other. Lossless formats take up around 50 to 75% of the original CDDA equivalent so you'll need a lot of disc space to hold 650 CD's. I've currently got around 700 CD's ripped in lossless format and they're taking up just over 270GB of disc space. You'll also need to back up your hard drive because if you have a hard drive failure, you're going to want to get your music back from your saves. I currently use 3 hard drives, a master and 2 back up drives. WAV files will take up more space than lossless WMA or FLAC files and they don't support ID3 tags so I would disuade you of using this format. They don't sound any better than lossless formats either so I don't see why anyone would waste disc space on this format. If you use windows media player to rip your collection you'll be able to set it up to automatically start ripping when you insert a CD and eject it on completion. I don't think you can do this with nero but I could be wrong. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: Output format tips needed: I have 650 audio disks I
Re: m-audio cards
Hi Matthew. I heard a lot of recommendations for M-Audio cards and bought one a year ago or so. It wasn't a good experience and it was sent back within 2 weeks. The card was a USB soundcard, a 1296 if I remember correctly, and, basically, it kept dropping out. This could happen after 5 minutes or an hour and would result in a restart of my laptop to get the card recognised again. I tried a number of solutions to get it working including upgrading to the latest drivers, making sure my laptop didn't power down it's USB sockets, etc, and worked with the tech support guys who supplied the cardbut all to no avail. The tech support guys verdict was that the cards weren't great with laptops. I don't think the card was very recent, I think that model had been available for over a year. I'd had no problems with the creative USB card I was using previously and have had no issues with the latest creative card I have now. I should point out though that I only use the soundcard for listening so don't have to worry about recording or inaccessible software that can be used to tweak the sound and generally make it sound worse in my opinion. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Matthew2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 9:49 AM Subject: m-audio cards Hi everyone, I'm wondering, has anyone ever heard of m-audio cards? If so, how did this sound card run on your computer, and did it play nice with jaws 8? Matthew Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: zen stone
Hey Joe. I believe that the 2 GB stone has an FM radio, voice recorder and screen. From what I've heard on a couple of lists it's not quite as easy to use as the 1 GB stone. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Joe Bollard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc -audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 7:53 PM Subject: zen stone i have the zen stone one GB , but there is a 2 GB version, and i am wondering apart from the obvious difference in disk space, has the 2 GB model any other additions, i am really pleased with the xen stone, which i use specifically for books, i have an i audio also, with voiceboxthat i use just for music, always remember that it takes about 20 seconds for the zen stone to come on, i would welcome any information about the two gb version, travel safely, joe. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: zen stone
Hi Lesley. A common problem that people have found with the zen stone is not waiting long enough for it to start playing. Hold the centre play button in for 3 seconds and then wait for 15 to 20 seconds for it to start playing. Make sure the volume isn't turned right down and make sure your ear buds have a firm connection, they should click into place when properly connected. Try and paste an mp3 track in there so that you can eliminate whether it's the format of your book or the player. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: leslie ferrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pcaudio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 7:09 PM Subject: zen stone I bought the one gig creative Zen stone this weekend and can't get it to play. I hooked it up to my computer all night and pasted a book onto the drive. What's wrong? Leslie check out this new and exciting business opportunity and it's totally free!!! http://www.mypowermall.com/Biz/Home/5847 Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lossless
Hi Steve. Looks like you weren't listening when the following answer was sent to the list on Tuesday: Hi. There's no 'best' in terms of sound quality for lossless formats as they all yield the same result; that is, a music file that is perfect in comparison to the original. However, you might want to consider what formats are supported by most software and hardware players and I think you'd find that lossless WMA is probably the most well supported. You can use goldwave to convert from WAV to lossless WMA and back. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 3:17 PM Subject: Lossless Is there a best lossless format in terms of sound? Is there a quickest for going from .WAV to that format and back? Aside from WMP and Sound Forge, what programs work with the other formats? As always, thanks in advance Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Steve Matzura [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 12:36 AM Subject: Re: Lossless Hi, Gary: Looks like nobody was listening when, on Tue, 31 Jul 2007 10:17:56 -0400, you asked: Is there a best lossless format in terms of sound? First of all, you're asking a question which is a total non sequitor. If different lossless formats had different sounds, they wouldn't exactly be lossless, would they? The whole point of a lossless format is to give back 100% the original sound of the original data that went into creating it. The only lossless formats of which I know and with which I am familiar are FLAC and AAC, which, in fact, may be more closely related than I am aware. Is there a quickest for going from .WAV to that format and back? Aside from WMP and Sound Forge, what programs work with the other formats? Easy CDDA Extractor, or any audio file format converter using external encoders and decoders will do it for you. The pay version of Easy CDDA Extractor is, I think, what you need in this particular case. Hope this helps. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lossless
Hi. There's no 'best' in terms of sound quality for lossless formats as they all yield the same result; that is, a music file that is perfect in comparison to the original. However, you might want to consider what formats are supported by most software and hardware players and I think you'd find that lossless WMA is probably the most well supported. You can use goldwave to convert from WAV to lossless WMA and back. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 3:17 PM Subject: Lossless Is there a best lossless format in terms of sound? Is there a quickest for going from .WAV to that format and back? Aside from WMP and Sound Forge, what programs work with the other formats? As always, thanks in advance Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lossless
You'd need near lab conditions and equipment to do this properly. You can though take some guidance from the resulting bitrates of lossless files. Typically, a track ripped in lossless WMA has a bitrate of between 900 and 1,000 kbps. This is, of course, an average so parts of the music will peak much higher and there will be some lower points too. What I'd suggest is play it back through some real hi-fi kit to compare the original CD against the lossless file. You'll need to play the CD through the computer to get as close as possible to an A/B test. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 8:43 PM Subject: Re: Lossless Is there a way to prove that lossless file quality is truly lossless? Bruce On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:37:37 +0100, Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi. There's no 'best' in terms of sound quality for lossless formats as they all yield the same result; that is, a music file that is perfect in comparison to the original. However, you might want to consider what formats are supported by most software and hardware players and I think you'd find that lossless WMA is probably the most well supported. You can use goldwave to convert from WAV to lossless WMA and back. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 3:17 PM Subject: Lossless Is there a best lossless format in terms of sound? Is there a quickest for going from .WAV to that format and back? Aside from WMP and Sound Forge, what programs work with the other formats? As always, thanks in advance Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.ogts.net Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sites for downloading music
Yep, that's right. EMI are the first to sign up to the amazon download store. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Blackwell, Clifford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 3:09 PM Subject: RE: sites for downloading music As I understand it, so far, they only have signed up one label for no drm tracks, but are hoping to get others to agree. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 3:57 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: sites for downloading music I've heard that amazon will be launching a download store this year to rival i-tunes. Music will be free of any copy protection so will be able to play on any mp3 player and they hope to have over 12,000 record labels signed up within a short time. Can't tell you anything about formats yet. Given amazon's record on good accessibility, it will likely be very easy to use so sounds promising. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Terra Syslo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 11:35 PM Subject: sites for downloading music Can anyone recommend any sites that work well with JAWS for purchasing and downloading music? I tried to download Itunes, but it would not install, and I'm not sure how well it will work with JAWS. I've tried Rhapsody, but I'd like something that I could buy per song and not have to pay a subscription every month, if there is such a thing. http://www.mypowermall.com/mall/3736 email and MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: tlsyslo No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.11/909 - Release Date: 7/20/2007 4:39 PM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sites for downloading music
I've heard that amazon will be launching a download store this year to rival i-tunes. Music will be free of any copy protection so will be able to play on any mp3 player and they hope to have over 12,000 record labels signed up within a short time. Can't tell you anything about formats yet. Given amazon's record on good accessibility, it will likely be very easy to use so sounds promising. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Terra Syslo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 11:35 PM Subject: sites for downloading music Can anyone recommend any sites that work well with JAWS for purchasing and downloading music? I tried to download Itunes, but it would not install, and I'm not sure how well it will work with JAWS. I've tried Rhapsody, but I'd like something that I could buy per song and not have to pay a subscription every month, if there is such a thing. http://www.mypowermall.com/mall/3736 email and MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: tlsyslo No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.11/909 - Release Date: 7/20/2007 4:39 PM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sites for downloading music
Sorry, no. The service hasn't launched yet but I'll post here as soon as it is. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: sean waiting [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 11:04 AM Subject: Re: sites for downloading music Dear Kevin do you know the website for it. all the best from sean waiting - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 9:57 AM Subject: Re: sites for downloading music I've heard that amazon will be launching a download store this year to rival i-tunes. Music will be free of any copy protection so will be able to play on any mp3 player and they hope to have over 12,000 record labels signed up within a short time. Can't tell you anything about formats yet. Given amazon's record on good accessibility, it will likely be very easy to use so sounds promising. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Terra Syslo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 11:35 PM Subject: sites for downloading music Can anyone recommend any sites that work well with JAWS for purchasing and downloading music? I tried to download Itunes, but it would not install, and I'm not sure how well it will work with JAWS. I've tried Rhapsody, but I'd like something that I could buy per song and not have to pay a subscription every month, if there is such a thing. http://www.mypowermall.com/mall/3736 email and MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: tlsyslo No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.11/909 - Release Date: 7/20/2007 4:39 PM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.12/910 - Release Date: 21/07/2007 15:52 Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: creative zen stone
Hey Joe. It's advertised running time on a full charge is 10 hours. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Joe Bollard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc -audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 12:23 PM Subject: creative zen stone hello friends, i recently purchased the zen stone player, delighted with it, unfortunately, i got the one gigabyte version, didn't know there was a two gig version until a week after i had purchased this one, but really no problem, for a totally blind person it is so easy to operate, just one thing i need to know, how long is the running time, how many hours can i run it before recharging it?? the headphones that come with it are rubbish, but i do have a very natty and extremely good set of headphones that came with a radio someone gave me last year, anyway, can someone tell me how long this little baby runs without needing a recharge, regards from ireland, travel safely, joe. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Putting LP's on the Computer
Hi Gordon. You won't lose any quality converting from WAV to apple lossless. Assuming that you then have all ID3 tags intact, if you can find a program to convert from apple lossless to FLAC or lossless WMA, then again there won't be any loss in quality. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 12:08 PM Subject: Re: Putting LP's on the Computer Hi I have just a query based on your reply. I ripped all my large record collection to wav before I realised that the ID tags would not be preserved. I did so in ITunes and so because the Tags are in the library all the details remain. If I export to any of the Itunes formats supported than the tags go with it however if I try to use an;y other program only the name of the song and artist are copied from the wav file. My question is: I can use the Apple lossless codec in itunes to keep the wav lossless, or can I? Would this conversion result in a loss of quality, however small, converting from wav to Apple? Alternatively is it possible to add formats to Itunes so that the wav files might be exported from Itunes with their tags, ideally like a flec or lossless windows media format? Thanks for any response. Gordon McFarlane - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 7:55 PM Subject: Re: Putting LP's on the Computer The only thing I'd add to this note is that you have more choice these days than ripping to WAV format to get true CD quality results. Lossless WMA and FLAC are two formats that come to mind. Both of these formats will give you identical results to the original CD and WAV file but will yield slightly smaller files. Both will also provide ID3 tag support which WAV files will not. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Jerry Richer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 7:21 PM Subject: Re: Putting LP's on the Computer Kris: Of course you won't be interested in MP3 or any other compression schemes. You will want to record your collection as wave files. Any compression scheme results in lost quality which is noticeable by people who really appreciate listening to music. You can record at most any quality you like. CD quality is good enough for most people. You can record with higher quality but I dare say that most people could never tell the difference. If you want better than CD quality then you may need to get a new sound card. but then again maybe your Sound Blaster does support some of the higher quality specifications. I would stick with my Sound Blaster. There are purportedly better sound cards on the market for this purpose. But the fact is that analogue to digital converters are very well understood these days and even the cheap sound cards have good ones. It doesn't matter what program you use. If two programs record at the same sampleing frequency and the same bit resolution then the two applications will give identical results. The magic is in the sound card. The recording program only needs to support the capabilities of the sound card. I make my recordings at CD quality, 44,100 Samples Per Second and bit resolution of 16 bits per sample in Stereo. Any sound card and most any recording program will support this. I use Sound Forge. Many other blind users prefer Goldwave. I have found that brand name doesn't say much about a disk drive. I have had my worse luck with Sea Gate and my best luck with no name brands. There are USB turntables and cassette players that would be handy for a lot of people to use in getting their music collections on to the computer. These systems are good enough for most of the people most of the time. However you are obviously something of an audio-phile so I would stick with my turntable and preamp. Jerry Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! Edirol R-09: high quality portable stereo Secure Digital Audio recorder with USB, $359.00, includes delivery within the USA, add $35.00 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/edirol.shtml ! DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, includes delivery within the USA, add $35 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml ! J-Say 4.0 without Naturally Speaking: $650.00, www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml ! Window Eyes 6.0: $895, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml ! Triple Talk: USB $450, PCI $350, includes delivery within the USA, add $35 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/tripletalk.shtml ! Sound Forge 9.0 with CD Architect 5.2 and Noise Reduction 2.0: $250, includes delivery within the USA, add $35 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! We
Re: converting an ogg file to MP3.
Hi. You can use goldwave to convert your files as follows: 1. Start goldwave. 2. Press alt + F to open the file menu. 3. Press the letter B to open the batch conversion dialogue. 4. Press tab until you reach the Add Folder button and press spacebar to activate it. 5. Tab to the browse button and press spacebar to activate it. 6. Now tab to the folder list and locate your folder containing your OGG files by using the up and down arrows and the right arrow key to open folders. 7. Tab to OK and press spacebar when you've opened the folder your files reside in. 8. Tab through the remaining options selecting the file type you wish to include in the conversion and checking the checkbox to include all subfolders if your music is in subfolders. 9. Press spacebar when you reach the OK button and you're now returned to the conversion dialogue. 10. Tab until you reach the checkbox that says something like Convert to this format and press spacebar to check it. 11. Tab into the file types box and select your output choice. 12. Tab to the attributes list and select your bitrate and encoding method from the list. 13. Tab to the Begin button and press spacebar to start the conversion. 14. When the resulting combo box displays, choose your speed setting from maximum, high, medium or low. The slower the speed, the more you're able to use your computer while the conversion runs. 15. When the conversion is completed, you'll see a dialogue confirming the conversion has completed successfully or telling you the number of errors and warnings encountered. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:10 AM Subject: converting an ogg file to MP3. hi listers I have a lot of books that are in ogg files, and I would like to convert them to mp3. I have gold wave and cdex can some one explain to me how I can do this, and give instructions on how? thanks so much. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: buying a new cd drive, some questions
Hi Larry. You may already know, but if you're buying a new DVD drive, or a CD drive for that matter, it's highly likely that you'll at least need to update your nero software. Updates are different to upgrades in that they are free and generally just provide bug fixes, support for new drives and some small enhancements. I think the latest version is 6.6.1.15 which was released in March this year. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Larry Higgins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 3:01 PM Subject: buying a new cd drive, some questions Hi listers, It looks like my Lite-On drive of a bit over three years is on the fritz. I have tried running a cd cleaner from memorex through the thing a number of times, but no major improvement if any when it comes to the consistent reading of cds, so I'm going to buy another drive. Since the trend has gone to dvd drives, I am a bit concerned as to what I should be on the look out for as it concerns working with my version of Nero 6. I don't want to get home with a drive, only to find out that it will not be compatible with my burning software. And, I really like Nero, but don't really want to have to invest another 80 bucks or so for an upgrade. After all, that price may be twice that of the driver unit. Anyway, if anybody can shed any helpful light on my above stated concerns, I will be eternally grateful. Now, I doubt that I will be watching any movies with this new drive. I'm only planning to maybe back up files to a dvd disc on occasion, but there's always that eventuality. Is there a drive that will work well with both standards, and how much should such a drive set me back? Oh well, guess that's it. If anybody can come up with any possible concerns that I should be aware of in making such a switch, please let me know. Thanks, Larry Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: changing the audio sampling rate in CD EXE
To change settings in CDEX, press F4 and press control + tab until you reach the encoder tab. Now, tab until you hear the sampling rate and make your change. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Mark Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC-Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 7:42 PM Subject: changing the audio sampling rate in CD EXE hi list, How do I change the sample rate in CD EXE from 2250, to 44.1? mark Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cd rippers
Hi Mark. I use windows media player for all my CD ripping requirements and as my player of choice. Is there a specific reason why you're looking to use I-Tunes? As far as I know, it's very difficult if not impossible to use - typical apple product really. If you were planning to use as a player, media player or winamp would be by far the better choices. If you're looking for downloading music, there are a number of accessible options that I'm sure people on the list will be able to provide if that's what you're interested in. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: mark bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 5:30 PM Subject: cd rippers This is my first post to this list so I hope it is on topic. I am wanting some advice on what is the best system for getting songs from my CD's on to my computer and storing them. Also could someone advise me about using Itunes with speech. I use Hal and am having problems even downloading the software. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Creative Zen V Plus
Once you've installed the creative zen software for the 20 Gig model and probably the other hard drive models, you don't actually use it again. You simply start windows explorer or My Computer and browse to the Creative Zen folder. Pressing enter will open the folder and allow you to use standard copy and paste keyboard commands to add or remove music from your player. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 2:58 AM Subject: Re: Creative Zen V Plus How well does their software work with Jaws or Window-Eyes? - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 2:33 PM Subject: Re: Creative Zen V Plus : Yes, you need to install the creative software that comes with the zen but : after that's done, you can get to the zen through windows explorer and copy : and paste music directly onto it. : : Kevin : E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : - Original Message - : From: Don Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] : To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org : Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 3:18 PM : Subject: Re: Creative Zen V Plus : : : does it act as an external hard drive when you plug it in? : - Original Message - : From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] : To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org : Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 8:55 AM : Subject: Re: Creative Zen V Plus : : : Hi. : : Can't say that I've seen this player but I do own a creative zen 20 gig : player that has the same features. The zen 20 gig has touch controls and : is : menu driven but it is possible to get around with a little effort. : : The reason I mention this player is that I bought a remote control for my : zen which makes it easier to use and particularly with the radio. The : remote doesn't help with the menu structure but it does have a dedicated : button for toggling the player between radio and mp3 playback and it has : next track, previous track, pause, play, stop and volume up and down. : This : means that you can lock the player itself and drive it completely from the : remote until you need to dive into the menus to maybe choose another : playlist or album, genre etc. : : The remote looked pretty universal for creative players so may work with : this new player or they'll maybe have a new one that will. : : Regards. : : Kevin : E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : - Original Message - : From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED] : To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org : Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 6:42 AM : Subject: Creative Zen V Plus : : : This Creative Zen V Plus really intrigues me, especially now that my : favorite radio station is looking to switch to FM. But from the product : description, it has a display. How do we find out if the player is : accessible or not? : : Bruce : : -- : Bruce Toews : Skype ID: o.canada : E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com : Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net : Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net : Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com : : : Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... : http://www.pc-audio.org : : To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : : : : Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... : http://www.pc-audio.org : : To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : : : Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... : http://www.pc-audio.org : : To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : : : Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... : http://www.pc-audio.org : : To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : : -- : Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. : Checked by AVG Free Edition. : Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/840 - Release Date: 6/8/2007 3:15 PM : : Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Creative Zen V Plus
Hi. Can't say that I've seen this player but I do own a creative zen 20 gig player that has the same features. The zen 20 gig has touch controls and is menu driven but it is possible to get around with a little effort. The reason I mention this player is that I bought a remote control for my zen which makes it easier to use and particularly with the radio. The remote doesn't help with the menu structure but it does have a dedicated button for toggling the player between radio and mp3 playback and it has next track, previous track, pause, play, stop and volume up and down. This means that you can lock the player itself and drive it completely from the remote until you need to dive into the menus to maybe choose another playlist or album, genre etc. The remote looked pretty universal for creative players so may work with this new player or they'll maybe have a new one that will. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 6:42 AM Subject: Creative Zen V Plus This Creative Zen V Plus really intrigues me, especially now that my favorite radio station is looking to switch to FM. But from the product description, it has a display. How do we find out if the player is accessible or not? Bruce -- Bruce Toews Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Creative Zen V Plus
Yes, you need to install the creative software that comes with the zen but after that's done, you can get to the zen through windows explorer and copy and paste music directly onto it. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Don Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 3:18 PM Subject: Re: Creative Zen V Plus does it act as an external hard drive when you plug it in? - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 8:55 AM Subject: Re: Creative Zen V Plus Hi. Can't say that I've seen this player but I do own a creative zen 20 gig player that has the same features. The zen 20 gig has touch controls and is menu driven but it is possible to get around with a little effort. The reason I mention this player is that I bought a remote control for my zen which makes it easier to use and particularly with the radio. The remote doesn't help with the menu structure but it does have a dedicated button for toggling the player between radio and mp3 playback and it has next track, previous track, pause, play, stop and volume up and down. This means that you can lock the player itself and drive it completely from the remote until you need to dive into the menus to maybe choose another playlist or album, genre etc. The remote looked pretty universal for creative players so may work with this new player or they'll maybe have a new one that will. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 6:42 AM Subject: Creative Zen V Plus This Creative Zen V Plus really intrigues me, especially now that my favorite radio station is looking to switch to FM. But from the product description, it has a display. How do we find out if the player is accessible or not? Bruce -- Bruce Toews Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Creative Zen V Plus
Hi Billy. Never seen one with SD support, they all seem to be either flash or hard drive players. Kevin Proud to be a Baggie E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: TrueBlue Proud [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 3:00 PM Subject: Re: Creative Zen V Plus I'm wondering if any of the Creative Zen products have SD slots?, Billy - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 1:55 PM Subject: Re: Creative Zen V Plus Hi. Can't say that I've seen this player but I do own a creative zen 20 gig player that has the same features. The zen 20 gig has touch controls and is menu driven but it is possible to get around with a little effort. The reason I mention this player is that I bought a remote control for my zen which makes it easier to use and particularly with the radio. The remote doesn't help with the menu structure but it does have a dedicated button for toggling the player between radio and mp3 playback and it has next track, previous track, pause, play, stop and volume up and down. This means that you can lock the player itself and drive it completely from the remote until you need to dive into the menus to maybe choose another playlist or album, genre etc. The remote looked pretty universal for creative players so may work with this new player or they'll maybe have a new one that will. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 6:42 AM Subject: Creative Zen V Plus This Creative Zen V Plus really intrigues me, especially now that my favorite radio station is looking to switch to FM. But from the product description, it has a display. How do we find out if the player is accessible or not? Bruce -- Bruce Toews Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 2335 (20070616) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
