Re: New I or J tunes

[Larry N]

It is most definitely helpful, Jonathan. Thanks very much!

Larry
- Original Message - 
From: Jonathan Mosen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 5:39 PM
Subject: RE: New I or J tunes


 Hi larry, in the January 2008 edition of FSCast, which I host and produce, 
 I
 demonstrated using iTunes in conjunction with jTunes. This was before the
 latest update, but it will give you some indication as to how it works.

 If you would like to hear this episode, the link is:
 http://podcast.freedomscientific.com/FSCast/episodes/fscast014-january2008.m
 p3

 Hope this is of some help.

 Jonathan
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Larry N
 Sent: Thursday, 3 April 2008 4:23 p.m.
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: New I or J tunes

 Hi Gordon. Larry here. Steve posted the original jTunes update message,
 forwarded from another list. So far as I know, it's still in the coming 
 soon
 category.
 this post concerning the updated version of the program is actually the
 first that I've heard of it. Do you own the previous version? can you tell
 me anything about cost and such?

 To date, as far as I know, this application represents the only means by
 which a blind person can successfully navigate iTunes.

 For whatever my info might be worth, I asked the Window-Eyes folks if 
 their
 soon to be released version 7.0 would offer similar iTunes support, but a
 representative indicated preference to withhold comment until the release 
 of
 Window-Eyes 7.0. Certainly their privellege, but it leaves me uncertain as
 to whether to purchase jTunes straight away.

 At any rate, since I am presently reviewing screen reader options for
 reasons that do not apply to this list, I am very interested in jTunes. I
 have jaws 8 on board and jTunes claims to work with Jaws 6 through 9. If I
 happen to see news of an official release before it is posted by another
 member, I'll certainly pass along what I learn.

 Larry


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 Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 2:57 PM
 Subject: New I or J tunes


 Hi
 I noticed last week that the new version of JTunes was being mentioned.
 I've been away, but have seen no more about it. Is it available yet?
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Re: New I or J tunes

[Larry N]

All right then thanks. I'll be watching for the release.

Larry
- Original Message - 
From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: New I or J tunes


Hi Larry
The previous Jtunes was a payable upgrade - I'm not sure but I think it's
about £30. It works fairly well and certainly makes Itunes workable. It has
one or two restrictions but in general is good. The new version sounds just
what we need and so as you can see I'm keen to get it.
Regards.
Gordon
- Original Message - 
From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 4:22 AM
Subject: Re: New I or J tunes


 Hi Gordon. Larry here. Steve posted the original jTunes update message,
 forwarded from another list. So far as I know, it's still in the coming
 soon
 category.
 this post concerning the updated version of the program is actually the
 first that I've heard of it. Do you own the previous version? can you tell
 me anything about cost and such?

 To date, as far as I know, this application represents the only means by
 which a blind person can successfully navigate iTunes.

 For whatever my info might be worth, I asked the Window-Eyes folks if
 their
 soon to be released version 7.0 would offer similar iTunes support, but a
 representative indicated preference to withhold comment until the release
 of
 Window-Eyes 7.0. Certainly their privellege, but it leaves me uncertain as
 to whether to purchase jTunes straight away.

 At any rate, since I am presently reviewing screen reader options for
 reasons that do not apply to this list, I am very interested in jTunes. I
 have jaws 8 on board and jTunes claims to work with Jaws 6 through 9. If I
 happen to see news of an official release before it is posted by another
 member, I'll certainly pass along what I learn.

 Larry


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 Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 2:57 PM
 Subject: New I or J tunes


 Hi
 I noticed last week that the new version of JTunes was being mentioned.
 I've been away, but have seen no more about it. Is it available yet?
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Re: New I or J tunes

[Larry N]

Hi Gordon. Larry here. Steve posted the original jTunes update message, 
forwarded from another list. So far as I know, it's still in the coming soon 
category.
this post concerning the updated version of the program is actually the 
first that I've heard of it. Do you own the previous version? can you tell 
me anything about cost and such?

To date, as far as I know, this application represents the only means by 
which a blind person can successfully navigate iTunes.

For whatever my info might be worth, I asked the Window-Eyes folks if their 
soon to be released version 7.0 would offer similar iTunes support, but a 
representative indicated preference to withhold comment until the release of 
Window-Eyes 7.0. Certainly their privellege, but it leaves me uncertain as 
to whether to purchase jTunes straight away.

At any rate, since I am presently reviewing screen reader options for 
reasons that do not apply to this list, I am very interested in jTunes. I 
have jaws 8 on board and jTunes claims to work with Jaws 6 through 9. If I 
happen to see news of an official release before it is posted by another 
member, I'll certainly pass along what I learn.

Larry


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Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 2:57 PM
Subject: New I or J tunes


 Hi
 I noticed last week that the new version of JTunes was being mentioned. 
 I've been away, but have seen no more about it. Is it available yet?
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Re: Sound Taxy

[Larry N]

Timothy, I'm using Sound Taxi with no enhancements whether in Window-Eyes or 
Jaws. No problems.

Larry

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Subject: Sound Taxy


 Hello,
 I would like to know, how accessible is Sound Taxy 8? Does it require any 
 aditional scripts? And, can I have a step-by-step in converting files?

 From,
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Re: Downloading By Track

[Larry N]

Napster lets you do that. 

Larry
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Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 4:35 PM
Subject: Downloading By Track


 Hi Listers,
 
 Can anyone tell me of some good websites besides RealPlayer and Rhapsody 
 where you can download by track rather than purchasing an entire album?
 
 Thanks much.
 
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Re: Napster Question

[Larry N]

Hi. Napster is a service that allows users to purchase individual songs and 
full albums. Membership at a higher level allows you to download tracks and 
in some cases albums which you may keep on your harddrive as long as you 
continue to pay the monthly fee.

I hope this helps.

Larry
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Subject: Re: Napster Question


 Hi hi hi

 sorry for jumping in the thread too.
 May i know what is nepster?
 Have seen a lot of these messages but haven't got a chance till now to 
 ask.
 Sorry for my ignorance.
 Apologies for any irregularities in my mail as i'm using my mobile to
 retrieve and reply emails as i'm away from my pc.


 On 3/28/08, Samuel Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It is the latest one, 3.something, but I downloaded iton Wednesday.
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 Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 4:41 AM
 Subject: Re: Napster Question


  Which version of napster are you using?
 
  **
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  From: Samuel Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 1:53 PM
  Subject: Re: Napster Question
 
 
  When I tabbed in the from the combo edit box, there was a custom 
  control
  and
  two unlabeled picture links. What are these?
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  Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:27 AM
  Subject: Re: Napster Question
 
 
  with jaws if it is not focusing on the combo box, which is what it 
  does
  for
  me, use the jaws cursor to click one of the items in the box. 
  Hopefully
  this
  should bring you to the main screen. then when you tab the first box 
  is
  the
  edit field, which becomes a list box as you make more searches.  the
  next
  tab would be the search button then the library button. You should 
  also
  be
  able to see the library button with the jaws cursor on the left side 
  of
  the
  screen.
 
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  From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 4:30 PM
  Subject: Re: Napster Question
 
 
  Doc, I think I'm missing something. Not for the first time, but I'd
  like
  to
  get this figured out if I can. When I open Napster, using Jaws, if I
  tab
  once, I get the combo box with artist, title and so on. If I tab 
  again
  I'm
  taken to the Napster home page where they push featured downloads 
  and
  recommend artists. I'm not seeing any buttons. When tabbing with
  Window-eyes
  I get the artist/title box, and then with the next tab I hear list
  box.
  It
  is, at this point, an undefined list box. Any idea what I'm doing
  wrong?
  I
  can follow directions with your screen reader of choice.
 
  Larry
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  To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 5:45 PM
  Subject: Re: Napster Question
 
 
  It is one of your buttons. when you tab past the search button the
  very
  next
  button is library.
 
  **
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  robert Doc Wright
  http://www.wrightplaceinc.net
  msn
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Click to call me
  http://me.vonage.com/robwright
 
 
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  From: Samuel Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 1:56 PM
  Subject: Napster Question
 
 
  Hello, I am just getting to grips with Napster light with 
  Window-Eyes
  using the mouse curser. I have a question. How do you get to the
  library?
  The reason I ask is because it says I need to go to it to check 
  the
  download status of a track.
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Re: Napster Question

[Larry N]

Samuel, I gather that you are using Window-Eyes. The custom control took me 
to the Napster home page. The first picture link also brought me to their 
home page. The second picture link took me to searches that I had not yet 
cleared. To work successfully in Napster with Window-Eyes, you're going to 
nee to use your mouse keys quite a lot.

Larry
- Original Message - 
From: Samuel Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: Napster Question


 When I tabbed in the from the combo edit box, there was a custom control 
 and
 two unlabeled picture links. What are these?
 Samuel Wilkins
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 Windows Live Messenger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 - Original Message - 
 From: Doc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:27 AM
 Subject: Re: Napster Question


 with jaws if it is not focusing on the combo box, which is what it does
 for
 me, use the jaws cursor to click one of the items in the box. Hopefully
 this
 should bring you to the main screen. then when you tab the first box is
 the
 edit field, which becomes a list box as you make more searches.  the next
 tab would be the search button then the library button. You should also 
 be
 able to see the library button with the jaws cursor on the left side of
 the
 screen.

 **
 A mind is a terrible thing


 robert Doc Wright
 http://www.wrightplaceinc.net
 msn
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 http://me.vonage.com/robwright


 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 4:30 PM
 Subject: Re: Napster Question


 Doc, I think I'm missing something. Not for the first time, but I'd like
 to
 get this figured out if I can. When I open Napster, using Jaws, if I tab
 once, I get the combo box with artist, title and so on. If I tab again
 I'm
 taken to the Napster home page where they push featured downloads and
 recommend artists. I'm not seeing any buttons. When tabbing with
 Window-eyes
 I get the artist/title box, and then with the next tab I hear list 
 box.
 It
 is, at this point, an undefined list box. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
 I
 can follow directions with your screen reader of choice.

 Larry
 - Original Message - 
 From: Doc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 5:45 PM
 Subject: Re: Napster Question


 It is one of your buttons. when you tab past the search button the very
 next
 button is library.

 **
 A mind is a terrible thing


 robert Doc Wright
 http://www.wrightplaceinc.net
 msn
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 http://me.vonage.com/robwright


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 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 1:56 PM
 Subject: Napster Question


 Hello, I am just getting to grips with Napster light with Window-Eyes
 using the mouse curser. I have a question. How do you get to the
 library?
 The reason I ask is because it says I need to go to it to check the
 download status of a track.
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Re: Napster Question

[Larry N]

Doc, I think I'm missing something. Not for the first time, but I'd like to 
get this figured out if I can. When I open Napster, using Jaws, if I tab 
once, I get the combo box with artist, title and so on. If I tab again I'm 
taken to the Napster home page where they push featured downloads and 
recommend artists. I'm not seeing any buttons. When tabbing with Window-eyes 
I get the artist/title box, and then with the next tab I hear list box. It 
is, at this point, an undefined list box. Any idea what I'm doing wrong? I 
can follow directions with your screen reader of choice.

Larry
- Original Message - 
From: Doc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: Napster Question


 It is one of your buttons. when you tab past the search button the very 
 next
 button is library.

 **
 A mind is a terrible thing


 robert Doc Wright
 http://www.wrightplaceinc.net
 msn
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Click to call me
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 - Original Message - 
 From: Samuel Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 1:56 PM
 Subject: Napster Question


 Hello, I am just getting to grips with Napster light with Window-Eyes
 using the mouse curser. I have a question. How do you get to the library?
 The reason I ask is because it says I need to go to it to check the
 download status of a track.
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Re: Slim Server 7.0

[Larry N]

Hmm, what gift giving occasion comes after Easter?


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From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 10:01 PM
Subject: RE: Slim Server 7.0


 And my wife was just asking me what I wanted for Easter?

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 On Behalf Of Kelly Ford
 Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 9:54 PM
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 Subject: RE: Slim Server 7.0

 The Squeeze Box unit itself isn't really accessible. But you can control 
 the
 unit from the server software and this works quite well, ignoring the 7.0
 issues I mentioned here.

 You can learn more at http://www.slimdevices.com.





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 Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 3:14 PM
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 Subject: Re: Slim Server 7.0

 I didn't think it was at all accessible so this is news to me (that it 
 ever
 was I mean).

 The Squeeze Box is a device that allows one to stream their music over a
 network.
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 Pardon my ignorance; but, just what is squeeze box?

 Don Roberts

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 Hey Kelly,

 I have just forwarded your note to a colleague within the company for
 which I am employed.  He is a managing director of the Logitech
 technical support project, which includes Squeezebox.  Hopefully, I
 can get some answers from Logitech.

 In the meantime, I would strongly urge you to open up a ticket with
 the company's technical support team (which actually goes to my
 employer) and
 escalate it as far as possible, not granting permission for its
 closure until the access issue is addressed to your satisfaction.  If
 any others out here have Logitech products with access issues, I would
 advise you all to do likewise.  I'm wondering if we can somehow
 utilize the technical support process of some companies to get at
 least some of what we need?



 - Original Message -
 From: Kelly Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 10:06 AM
 Subject: Slim Server 7.0


 Hello,

 Apologies if this has been discussed here already but I didn't see it.
 Folks here turned me on to the Squeeze Box more than a year ago and
 I've been very pleased.

 However, I just updated to the 7.0 version of the Slim Server Software
 for streaming  to a Squeeze Box and initial impressions are that the
 server software is less accessible than the 6.5 version.  You can
 switch back to the classic interface which resolves most of the
 challenges.

 The main reason I updated was because now the Pandora music service is
 intigrated into the server software.  Earlier you had to connect to
 the Squeeze Network.

 The biggest issues I noticed in the 7.0 server software were numerous
 instances of missing alt text, actionable UI elements no longer
 created as standard HTML links and many more areas that require use of
 a mouse.  For example to play an entry in the 7.0 server software, you
 now need to use whatever mechanism your screen reader has for dealing
 with onmouseovers to get a menu of things like play and add to play
 list to appear.

 Just thought I'd share in case anyone else updates,

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Re: Websites for MP3

[Larry N]

Hello Samuel. Napsteroffers membership to residents of several countries 
outside the U.S. including Britain Japan and Canada. One membership level 
lets you download
files that you keep as  long as you maintain your paid membership. On
another level you just by tracks and albums as you would at Amazon and the
like with no membership fee.In the States and here in Canada, a free trial 
is offered.

I understand your frustration. Here in Canada, Amazon.com, Rapsidy and other
companies based in the states block us from purchasing downloads at their
websites. Those of us who live outside the U.S. are also blocked from 
listening to Clear
Channels radio streams.The page that comes up when you attempt to stream a 
Clear Channel radio station says that non-U.S. surfers are blocked due to 
licensing restrictions. In my experience, I have never found a broadcast 
stream for any station owned by a company other than clear channel that 
blocks non-U.S. surfers, though others may exist that I have simply not yet 
discovered.

Larry

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 Hello, I tried your suggestions, however amazon.co.uk does not have that
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Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts

[Larry N]

Hi John. That's a very good question I guess we'll need to ask them. Mono is 
no good to me.

Larry
- Original Message - 
From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 1:32 AM
Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 High Larry,
 I did call them and talk to them.
 In a stereo preamp, you will need at least 1 tube per channel.
 But in that preamp, it's only using 1 12AX7 tube to feed your turntable to
 your sound card.
 How can you get stereo sound out of 1 tube?
  John.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 1:02 AM
 Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


I haven't tried it personally as it's above my budget at the moment, but
 I've heard from others that it's everything they say it is. I think you
 could return it if you find itt isn't what you want, but I would phone or
 email them first to make sure.

 Larry

 - Original Message - 
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 11:23 PM
 Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 High list members,
 Has anyone tried the tube preamp that Diamond Cut offers for using with
 their software?
 I understand that they make any high quality turntable sound real 
 smooth.
 I thank the price is a little over $200 if I remember that correctly.
  John.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 5:28 PM
 Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 Hi Gordon. When you have a file of a record with lots of pops, clicks
 and
 overall surface noise, try the impulse filters first. They make a great
 first step and they work especially well when you are dealing with the
 entire file as you and I are.

 Larry
 - Original Message - 
 From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 10:59 AM
 Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 Hi Larry
 I've tried much of DC7 but I've never understood the Impulse filters.
 It's
 time to get to grips with them!
 Gordon
 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 2:05 AM
 Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


I like your workarounds and your suggested changes. Perhaps if both of
us
 present them, the ideas might carry more weight. Worth a try anyway.

 Have you tried the cassette hiss filters. The impulse filters are 
 also
 excellent for getting rid of pops and clicks.

 I've heard a lot about audition 1.5 and I'd love to work with it, but
 I
 haven't been able to get my hands on a copy. Maybe one day.

 Larry


 - Original Message - 
 From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 8:43 PM
 Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 Larry
 I'm sure you'll know about the automatic scratch hiss and hum 
 removal
 preset
 in DC6 and 7. It actually can be pretty good at adjusting to various
 problems over a large file. The noise reduction presets are also
 excellent -
 there's usually something which works. The compression and expansion
 along
 with the general exciter presets are varied and excellent. Version 7
 claims
 to get rid of the many sound artifacts which can occur. I also have
 their
 audio mentor which interfaces with the main program linking and 
 using
 noise
 reduction and exciter presets effectively. I've to use the jaws
 cursor
 here
 but it's good.

 The couple of problems we have in not having a fully accessible
 program
 are
 as follows:
 1. The file navigation and selection tools need linking into 
 standard
 Windows keypresses, as in Audition and Gold Wave. At present if I'm
 really
 stuck I'll take a noise sample from the file in Audition - just a
 second
 or
 two - then analyse it in DC7, make a preset, then apply it to the
 whole
 file. Similarly if I'm really stuck I'll break the whole file into
 time
 sections which I take careful note of and after performing cleaning
 in
 DC7
 I
 then rebuild the file so as not to be one frame out.
 2. The other place I would like access to is the multitab editor
 where
 you
 can chain a variety of effects so that they are all applied at once
 rather
 than just one at a time. You can then put together your favourites
 and
 make
 a thorough and quicker difference.

 3. The preset boxes are pretty good but it would be good to have the
 'fine
 tuning' sliders more easy to work. At present they will work with 
 the
 Jaws
 cursor but it would be good to make adjustments by tabbing to the
 particular
 area and making changes which you can hear instantly. To get round
 this
 I'll
 place

Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts

[Larry N]

Hi John. I enjoy working with DC7 and I think you will too. If you find you 
need a hand at any time, give me a shout and I'll do what I can.

As for GoldWave, I like it for the ease with wich I can split files 
manually, which is my preference. I listen to each individual file from a 
given album at several times normal speed and place a cue point at its end. 
Then I do the same with each subsequent file until finished. Finally I have 
GoldWave split the files. Then I move to Dc7 for more concentrated editing. 
Just my preference. Everybody has their favorite way.

Larry
- Original Message - 
From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 High Larry,
 I will take this to heart!
 I am looking for something that works a little better then Studio 
 Recorder.
 It looks like DC-7 is the audio editor that I will be replacing Studio
 Recorder with.
 If Gold Wave has something that DC-7 doesn't have, then that one will be 
 on
 this system too as well.
  John.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 3:04 PM
 Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 John, one thing you're dealing with when it comes to DC7 support staff is
 that they don't know a lot about screen reader specific issues. Part of
 the
 problem there is that they just haven't had a lot of blind users offering
 them feedback. On the plus side, I've found them to be very proactive 
 when
 it comes to their willingness to support their product, whether the issue
 is
 accessibility or something else. To me, that is an important aspect when
 it
 comes to whether or not I purchase a product. DC7 allows you to play with
 every aspect of the program for ten days before buying it. They also 
 offer
 phone and email support even for demos. For me, that counts for 
 something.
 It may not be the only audio editing program you will ever need. But for
 my
 money, I would submit that there is no such thing. I use each program's
 strengths to accomplish what I need to accomplish. And at present, with
 all
 due respect to Sound Forge users, it is the program that I use the least.
 It
 is also the program that, for me, has generated the fewest ansers when it
 comes to how to questions which I have posted where and when
 appropriate.
 I make these observations with the full knowledge that other folks use
 Sound
 Forge exclusivey. I'm just sharing the oppinion that for me, and this is
 only for me, DC7 and Goldwave make the best possible combination that 
 I've
 found.

 Larry


 - Original Message - 
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 5:18 AM
 Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 High Larry,
 Yes I did.
 I haven't had any problems with it yet, but the guy I spoke to 
 yesterday,
 said that it had a lot of graphics in it.
 That's what got me thinking about Jaws scripts.
 But I see now, that they aren't really needed.
  John.
 PS. Is there a way that a totally blind person can monitor the VU meter
 without any sighted assistance?- Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 11:46 PM
 Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 Hi John. Have you downloaded the demo? I haven't used DC 6 or 7 with
 Jaws
 very much, but they work well with Window-eyes. Have you tried the DC7
 demo?
 It is a fully functional demo which works for 10 days before you're
 required
 to either give it up or open your wallet.

 An important note, DC7 offers more functionality and from an
 accessibility
 standpoint it works the same as DC6. I would suggest downloading it and
 just
 see what you can do with it.

 Larry
 - Original Message - 
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:42 PM
 Subject: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 Hello list members,
 I went to:
 http://www.tracertek.com/index.asp
 and I was looking at 2 different types of software for audio editing
 and
 restoring.
 They are called DC-6 and DC7.
 I called them and asked them if any of their software was Jaws user
 friendly.
 When the guy I spoke too said something to me about graphics, I 
 thought
 to
 myself, Jaw scripts will be needed in order for me to use this
 software.
 He did say however, that blind people have used the plug ins without
 any
 problems, but the rest of it had problems.
 But my real question is, can Jaw scripts be written for both DC-6 and
 DC-7?
 Thanks in advance.
  John.
 PS. DC-7 according to the website, just came out.
 Either one can give you the sound of vacuum tube equipment on your
 computer.
 Sorry Mack owners/users, this software

Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts

[Larry N]

I haven't tried it personally as it's above my budget at the moment, but 
I've heard from others that it's everything they say it is. I think you 
could return it if you find itt isn't what you want, but I would phone or 
email them first to make sure.

Larry

- Original Message - 
From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 11:23 PM
Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 High list members,
 Has anyone tried the tube preamp that Diamond Cut offers for using with
 their software?
 I understand that they make any high quality turntable sound real smooth.
 I thank the price is a little over $200 if I remember that correctly.
  John.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 5:28 PM
 Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 Hi Gordon. When you have a file of a record with lots of pops, clicks and
 overall surface noise, try the impulse filters first. They make a great
 first step and they work especially well when you are dealing with the
 entire file as you and I are.

 Larry
 - Original Message - 
 From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 10:59 AM
 Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 Hi Larry
 I've tried much of DC7 but I've never understood the Impulse filters.
 It's
 time to get to grips with them!
 Gordon
 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 2:05 AM
 Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


I like your workarounds and your suggested changes. Perhaps if both of 
us
 present them, the ideas might carry more weight. Worth a try anyway.

 Have you tried the cassette hiss filters. The impulse filters are also
 excellent for getting rid of pops and clicks.

 I've heard a lot about audition 1.5 and I'd love to work with it, but I
 haven't been able to get my hands on a copy. Maybe one day.

 Larry


 - Original Message - 
 From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 8:43 PM
 Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 Larry
 I'm sure you'll know about the automatic scratch hiss and hum removal
 preset
 in DC6 and 7. It actually can be pretty good at adjusting to various
 problems over a large file. The noise reduction presets are also
 excellent -
 there's usually something which works. The compression and expansion
 along
 with the general exciter presets are varied and excellent. Version 7
 claims
 to get rid of the many sound artifacts which can occur. I also have
 their
 audio mentor which interfaces with the main program linking and using
 noise
 reduction and exciter presets effectively. I've to use the jaws cursor
 here
 but it's good.

 The couple of problems we have in not having a fully accessible 
 program
 are
 as follows:
 1. The file navigation and selection tools need linking into standard
 Windows keypresses, as in Audition and Gold Wave. At present if I'm
 really
 stuck I'll take a noise sample from the file in Audition - just a
 second
 or
 two - then analyse it in DC7, make a preset, then apply it to the 
 whole
 file. Similarly if I'm really stuck I'll break the whole file into 
 time
 sections which I take careful note of and after performing cleaning in
 DC7
 I
 then rebuild the file so as not to be one frame out.
 2. The other place I would like access to is the multitab editor where
 you
 can chain a variety of effects so that they are all applied at once
 rather
 than just one at a time. You can then put together your favourites and
 make
 a thorough and quicker difference.

 3. The preset boxes are pretty good but it would be good to have the
 'fine
 tuning' sliders more easy to work. At present they will work with the
 Jaws
 cursor but it would be good to make adjustments by tabbing to the
 particular
 area and making changes which you can hear instantly. To get round 
 this
 I'll
 place the Jaws cursor in the preset combo box, tab to the preview
 button,
 once it has started use the jaws cursor to go down the list of 
 presets,
 thus
 hearing each effect on the file in turn. It does work with not too 
 much
 problem. As you say it's a wonderfully comprehensive sound editing
 package
 and so worth all this trouble.

 Have you tried Audition 1.5 (old now but effective) I can use this to
 home
 in on clicks and zap them.
 Regards.
 Gordon
 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 5:44 PM
 Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


I agree, and maybe between the two of us and anyone else who might be
 interested, we could get them to make some changes, perhaps

Re: Realtech sound card woes

[Larry N]

Morey, I can offer my oppinion on your last question. I'm using a Turtle 
Beach USB sound card with both Window-Eyes and Jaws on board. No problems 
using it with speech or customizing any settings.

Larry
- Original Message - 
From: Morey Worthington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pc-audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 7:40 AM
Subject: Realtech sound card woes


 Hello all,
 Anyone out there using a Realtech HD Sound card and Jaws 9 with Vista?
 Is there a help tutorial or something that a person can use? I cannot even
 get a microphone to work.
 Brand new computer...yes.
 Brand new digital microphoneyes.
 Now a really dumb question..
 How well do USB sound cards work, and still have a pretty good ease of
 access ability?
 Thanks,
 Morey Worthington



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Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts

[Larry N]

Thanks much Jim, I'll work with your suggestions. No Skype yet, but I'll get 
to that in time.

Larry
- Original Message - 
From: Jim Noseworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 Larry:

 Zooming in as far as possible, (Shift+UpArrow) , should do the trick.  You
 can then move through the area of interest while the clip is playing using
 the left and right cursor keys.

 You can also use the J, K, and l keys to move backward and forward through
 the clip.  Using the shift with the J or L keys will adjust the speed of 
 the
 transport.

 If you have Skype and you would like to discuss this further, I would be
 happy to help.

 Cheers.





 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 4:32 PM
 Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 Jim, Goldwave is a great program and what you have described is exactly
 what
 I want to do. I want to create a sample from a file, isolate it, work 
 with
 it and move on. In the program that Dane describes for the Mac, one can
 accomplish this with a simple keyboard command. Maybe it's me, but so far
 I
 can't make that happen in Goldwave. Can you please tell me how to go 
 about
 it?

 Thanks and much appreciation in advance.

 Larry
 - Original Message - 
 From: Jim Noseworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 3:15 PM
 Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 Hi:

 GoldWave can zoom in on as little as a sample.

 Cheers.


 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 2:44 PM
 Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


I agree, and maybe between the two of us and anyone else who might be
 interested, we could get them to make some changes, perhaps even for an
 in
 between upgrade that is released mainly to correct some other issue 
 that
 pops up. Like you, I work with the program when I can make changes over
 an
 entire file. Meanwhile, if while using DC6 for entire files I can zero
 in
 on
 small sections of a file using either GoldWave, WavePad or Sound Forge,
 I'm
 really interested in learning how. I don't think there's any windows
 software that allows you to key in to a small part of a file the way
 Dane
 does with the Mac program that he talks about, but I'd like to get
 closer
 to
 that than I am now.

 In the meantime, I very much like the changes that I can make happen
 with
 an
 entire file when using DC7. I do see the capability to push the program
 further than I could DC6 and I already liked DC6 a lot. Nice to see 
 that
 someone else thinks so too.

 Larry
 - Original Message - 
 From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 9:33 AM
 Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 Hi Larry
 Hear, hear. I like DC7 but just wish files imported into it were more
 navigable. You're right however the staff are keen to make changes.
 Gordon- Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 7:04 PM
 Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 John, one thing you're dealing with when it comes to DC7 support 
 staff
 is
 that they don't know a lot about screen reader specific issues. Part
 of
 the
 problem there is that they just haven't had a lot of blind users
 offering
 them feedback. On the plus side, I've found them to be very proactive
 when
 it comes to their willingness to support their product, whether the
 issue
 is
 accessibility or something else. To me, that is an important aspect
 when
 it
 comes to whether or not I purchase a product. DC7 allows you to play
 with
 every aspect of the program for ten days before buying it. They also
 offer
 phone and email support even for demos. For me, that counts for
 something.
 It may not be the only audio editing program you will ever need. But
 for
 my
 money, I would submit that there is no such thing. I use each
 program's
 strengths to accomplish what I need to accomplish. And at present,
 with
 all
 due respect to Sound Forge users, it is the program that I use the
 least.
 It
 is also the program that, for me, has generated the fewest ansers 
 when
 it
 comes to how to questions which I have posted where and when
 appropriate.
 I make these observations with the full knowledge that other folks 
 use
 Sound
 Forge exclusivey. I'm just sharing the oppinion that for me, and this
 is
 only for me, DC7 and Goldwave make the best possible combination that
 I've
 found.

 Larry


 - Original Message - 
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc

Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts

[Larry N]

Hi Gordon. When you have a file of a record with lots of pops, clicks and 
overall surface noise, try the impulse filters first. They make a great 
first step and they work especially well when you are dealing with the 
entire file as you and I are.

Larry
- Original Message - 
From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 Hi Larry
 I've tried much of DC7 but I've never understood the Impulse filters. It's
 time to get to grips with them!
 Gordon
 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 2:05 AM
 Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


I like your workarounds and your suggested changes. Perhaps if both of us
 present them, the ideas might carry more weight. Worth a try anyway.

 Have you tried the cassette hiss filters. The impulse filters are also
 excellent for getting rid of pops and clicks.

 I've heard a lot about audition 1.5 and I'd love to work with it, but I
 haven't been able to get my hands on a copy. Maybe one day.

 Larry


 - Original Message - 
 From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 8:43 PM
 Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 Larry
 I'm sure you'll know about the automatic scratch hiss and hum removal
 preset
 in DC6 and 7. It actually can be pretty good at adjusting to various
 problems over a large file. The noise reduction presets are also
 excellent -
 there's usually something which works. The compression and expansion
 along
 with the general exciter presets are varied and excellent. Version 7
 claims
 to get rid of the many sound artifacts which can occur. I also have 
 their
 audio mentor which interfaces with the main program linking and using
 noise
 reduction and exciter presets effectively. I've to use the jaws cursor
 here
 but it's good.

 The couple of problems we have in not having a fully accessible program
 are
 as follows:
 1. The file navigation and selection tools need linking into standard
 Windows keypresses, as in Audition and Gold Wave. At present if I'm
 really
 stuck I'll take a noise sample from the file in Audition - just a second
 or
 two - then analyse it in DC7, make a preset, then apply it to the whole
 file. Similarly if I'm really stuck I'll break the whole file into time
 sections which I take careful note of and after performing cleaning in
 DC7
 I
 then rebuild the file so as not to be one frame out.
 2. The other place I would like access to is the multitab editor where
 you
 can chain a variety of effects so that they are all applied at once
 rather
 than just one at a time. You can then put together your favourites and
 make
 a thorough and quicker difference.

 3. The preset boxes are pretty good but it would be good to have the
 'fine
 tuning' sliders more easy to work. At present they will work with the
 Jaws
 cursor but it would be good to make adjustments by tabbing to the
 particular
 area and making changes which you can hear instantly. To get round this
 I'll
 place the Jaws cursor in the preset combo box, tab to the preview 
 button,
 once it has started use the jaws cursor to go down the list of presets,
 thus
 hearing each effect on the file in turn. It does work with not too much
 problem. As you say it's a wonderfully comprehensive sound editing
 package
 and so worth all this trouble.

 Have you tried Audition 1.5 (old now but effective) I can use this to
 home
 in on clicks and zap them.
 Regards.
 Gordon
 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 5:44 PM
 Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


I agree, and maybe between the two of us and anyone else who might be
 interested, we could get them to make some changes, perhaps even for an
 in
 between upgrade that is released mainly to correct some other issue 
 that
 pops up. Like you, I work with the program when I can make changes over
 an
 entire file. Meanwhile, if while using DC6 for entire files I can zero
 in
 on
 small sections of a file using either GoldWave, WavePad or Sound Forge,
 I'm
 really interested in learning how. I don't think there's any windows
 software that allows you to key in to a small part of a file the way
 Dane
 does with the Mac program that he talks about, but I'd like to get
 closer
 to
 that than I am now.

 In the meantime, I very much like the changes that I can make happen
 with
 an
 entire file when using DC7. I do see the capability to push the program
 further than I could DC6 and I already liked DC6 a lot. Nice to see 
 that
 someone else thinks so too.

 Larry
 - Original Message - 
 From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc

Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts

[Larry N]

I agree, and maybe between the two of us and anyone else who might be 
interested, we could get them to make some changes, perhaps even for an in 
between upgrade that is released mainly to correct some other issue that 
pops up. Like you, I work with the program when I can make changes over an 
entire file. Meanwhile, if while using DC6 for entire files I can zero in on 
small sections of a file using either GoldWave, WavePad or Sound Forge, I'm 
really interested in learning how. I don't think there's any windows 
software that allows you to key in to a small part of a file the way Dane 
does with the Mac program that he talks about, but I'd like to get closer to 
that than I am now.

In the meantime, I very much like the changes that I can make happen with an 
entire file when using DC7. I do see the capability to push the program 
further than I could DC6 and I already liked DC6 a lot. Nice to see that 
someone else thinks so too.

Larry
- Original Message - 
From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 Hi Larry
 Hear, hear. I like DC7 but just wish files imported into it were more
 navigable. You're right however the staff are keen to make changes.
 Gordon- Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 7:04 PM
 Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 John, one thing you're dealing with when it comes to DC7 support staff is
 that they don't know a lot about screen reader specific issues. Part of
 the
 problem there is that they just haven't had a lot of blind users offering
 them feedback. On the plus side, I've found them to be very proactive 
 when
 it comes to their willingness to support their product, whether the issue
 is
 accessibility or something else. To me, that is an important aspect when
 it
 comes to whether or not I purchase a product. DC7 allows you to play with
 every aspect of the program for ten days before buying it. They also 
 offer
 phone and email support even for demos. For me, that counts for 
 something.
 It may not be the only audio editing program you will ever need. But for
 my
 money, I would submit that there is no such thing. I use each program's
 strengths to accomplish what I need to accomplish. And at present, with
 all
 due respect to Sound Forge users, it is the program that I use the least.
 It
 is also the program that, for me, has generated the fewest ansers when it
 comes to how to questions which I have posted where and when
 appropriate.
 I make these observations with the full knowledge that other folks use
 Sound
 Forge exclusivey. I'm just sharing the oppinion that for me, and this is
 only for me, DC7 and Goldwave make the best possible combination that 
 I've
 found.

 Larry


 - Original Message - 
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 5:18 AM
 Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 High Larry,
 Yes I did.
 I haven't had any problems with it yet, but the guy I spoke to 
 yesterday,
 said that it had a lot of graphics in it.
 That's what got me thinking about Jaws scripts.
 But I see now, that they aren't really needed.
  John.
 PS. Is there a way that a totally blind person can monitor the VU meter
 without any sighted assistance?- Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 11:46 PM
 Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 Hi John. Have you downloaded the demo? I haven't used DC 6 or 7 with
 Jaws
 very much, but they work well with Window-eyes. Have you tried the DC7
 demo?
 It is a fully functional demo which works for 10 days before you're
 required
 to either give it up or open your wallet.

 An important note, DC7 offers more functionality and from an
 accessibility
 standpoint it works the same as DC6. I would suggest downloading it and
 just
 see what you can do with it.

 Larry
 - Original Message - 
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:42 PM
 Subject: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 Hello list members,
 I went to:
 http://www.tracertek.com/index.asp
 and I was looking at 2 different types of software for audio editing
 and
 restoring.
 They are called DC-6 and DC7.
 I called them and asked them if any of their software was Jaws user
 friendly.
 When the guy I spoke too said something to me about graphics, I 
 thought
 to
 myself, Jaw scripts will be needed in order for me to use this
 software.
 He did say however, that blind people have used the plug ins without
 any
 problems, but the rest of it had problems.
 But my real question is, can Jaw scripts be written for both DC-6

Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts

[Larry N]

Hi Curtis. Sure, I can help you out.  DC7 is an audio editor. It is 
dedicated to restoring digitizing and burning CDs of materialed that 
originated on vinyl, cassette, 78s of all descriptions and open reel tape. 
Its tape hiss removal is excellent and I think it has a lot of other 
fantastic features, default settings which can be employed to make dramatic 
differences when applied to a file. Again, the down side is that neither 
Gordon nor I have been able to isolate a specific file segment. That being 
said, their support team will generally get back to you within 24 hours. As 
Gordon and I have mentioned, not a lot of blind people have worked with them 
on concerns that they have with the program. However, they are willing to 
work with us and happy to discuss issues and concerns. I think that if more 
of us discussed our concerns with them, they would be willing to make 
changes.

You can download a fully functional demo which will remain completely active 
for 10 days with no restrictions at the following address.

http://www.diamondcut.com/Downloads/Downloads.htm

Hope this gets you started.

Larry
- Original Message - 
From: Curtis Delzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 Will you please tell me what DC7 is? I mean, which audio editor, I want 
 to
 check it out.

 Curtis Delzer
 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 2:04 PM
 Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 John, one thing you're dealing with when it comes to DC7 support staff is
 that they don't know a lot about screen reader specific issues. Part of 
 the
 problem there is that they just haven't had a lot of blind users offering
 them feedback. On the plus side, I've found them to be very proactive when
 it comes to their willingness to support their product, whether the issue 
 is
 accessibility or something else. To me, that is an important aspect when 
 it
 comes to whether or not I purchase a product. DC7 allows you to play with
 every aspect of the program for ten days before buying it. They also offer
 phone and email support even for demos. For me, that counts for something.
 It may not be the only audio editing program you will ever need. But for 
 my
 money, I would submit that there is no such thing. I use each program's
 strengths to accomplish what I need to accomplish. And at present, with 
 all
 due respect to Sound Forge users, it is the program that I use the least. 
 It
 is also the program that, for me, has generated the fewest ansers when it
 comes to how to questions which I have posted where and when 
 appropriate.
 I make these observations with the full knowledge that other folks use 
 Sound
 Forge exclusivey. I'm just sharing the oppinion that for me, and this is
 only for me, DC7 and Goldwave make the best possible combination that I've
 found.

 Larry


 - Original Message - 
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 5:18 AM
 Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 High Larry,
 Yes I did.
 I haven't had any problems with it yet, but the guy I spoke to yesterday,
 said that it had a lot of graphics in it.
 That's what got me thinking about Jaws scripts.
 But I see now, that they aren't really needed.
  John.
 PS. Is there a way that a totally blind person can monitor the VU meter
 without any sighted assistance?- Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 11:46 PM
 Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 Hi John. Have you downloaded the demo? I haven't used DC 6 or 7 with 
 Jaws
 very much, but they work well with Window-eyes. Have you tried the DC7
 demo?
 It is a fully functional demo which works for 10 days before you're
 required
 to either give it up or open your wallet.

 An important note, DC7 offers more functionality and from an
 accessibility
 standpoint it works the same as DC6. I would suggest downloading it and
 just
 see what you can do with it.

 Larry
 - Original Message - 
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:42 PM
 Subject: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 Hello list members,
 I went to:
 http://www.tracertek.com/index.asp
 and I was looking at 2 different types of software for audio editing 
 and
 restoring.
 They are called DC-6 and DC7.
 I called them and asked them if any of their software was Jaws user
 friendly.
 When the guy I spoke too said something to me about graphics, I thought
 to
 myself, Jaw scripts will be needed in order for me to use this 
 software.
 He did say however, that blind people have used the plug ins

Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts

[Larry N]

Jim, Goldwave is a great program and what you have described is exactly what 
I want to do. I want to create a sample from a file, isolate it, work with 
it and move on. In the program that Dane describes for the Mac, one can 
accomplish this with a simple keyboard command. Maybe it's me, but so far I 
can't make that happen in Goldwave. Can you please tell me how to go about 
it?

Thanks and much appreciation in advance.

Larry
- Original Message - 
From: Jim Noseworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 Hi:

 GoldWave can zoom in on as little as a sample.

 Cheers.


 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 2:44 PM
 Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


I agree, and maybe between the two of us and anyone else who might be
 interested, we could get them to make some changes, perhaps even for an 
 in
 between upgrade that is released mainly to correct some other issue that
 pops up. Like you, I work with the program when I can make changes over 
 an
 entire file. Meanwhile, if while using DC6 for entire files I can zero in
 on
 small sections of a file using either GoldWave, WavePad or Sound Forge,
 I'm
 really interested in learning how. I don't think there's any windows
 software that allows you to key in to a small part of a file the way Dane
 does with the Mac program that he talks about, but I'd like to get closer
 to
 that than I am now.

 In the meantime, I very much like the changes that I can make happen with
 an
 entire file when using DC7. I do see the capability to push the program
 further than I could DC6 and I already liked DC6 a lot. Nice to see that
 someone else thinks so too.

 Larry
 - Original Message - 
 From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 9:33 AM
 Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 Hi Larry
 Hear, hear. I like DC7 but just wish files imported into it were more
 navigable. You're right however the staff are keen to make changes.
 Gordon- Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 7:04 PM
 Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 John, one thing you're dealing with when it comes to DC7 support staff
 is
 that they don't know a lot about screen reader specific issues. Part of
 the
 problem there is that they just haven't had a lot of blind users
 offering
 them feedback. On the plus side, I've found them to be very proactive
 when
 it comes to their willingness to support their product, whether the
 issue
 is
 accessibility or something else. To me, that is an important aspect 
 when
 it
 comes to whether or not I purchase a product. DC7 allows you to play
 with
 every aspect of the program for ten days before buying it. They also
 offer
 phone and email support even for demos. For me, that counts for
 something.
 It may not be the only audio editing program you will ever need. But 
 for
 my
 money, I would submit that there is no such thing. I use each program's
 strengths to accomplish what I need to accomplish. And at present, with
 all
 due respect to Sound Forge users, it is the program that I use the
 least.
 It
 is also the program that, for me, has generated the fewest ansers when
 it
 comes to how to questions which I have posted where and when
 appropriate.
 I make these observations with the full knowledge that other folks use
 Sound
 Forge exclusivey. I'm just sharing the oppinion that for me, and this 
 is
 only for me, DC7 and Goldwave make the best possible combination that
 I've
 found.

 Larry


 - Original Message - 
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 5:18 AM
 Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 High Larry,
 Yes I did.
 I haven't had any problems with it yet, but the guy I spoke to
 yesterday,
 said that it had a lot of graphics in it.
 That's what got me thinking about Jaws scripts.
 But I see now, that they aren't really needed.
  John.
 PS. Is there a way that a totally blind person can monitor the VU 
 meter
 without any sighted assistance?- Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 11:46 PM
 Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 Hi John. Have you downloaded the demo? I haven't used DC 6 or 7 with
 Jaws
 very much, but they work well with Window-eyes. Have you tried the 
 DC7
 demo?
 It is a fully functional demo which works for 10 days before you're
 required
 to either give it up or open your wallet.

 An important note, DC7 offers more functionality and from

Re: Looking for a special patch cord

[Larry N]

Brian, radio shack used to carry a Y adapter like that. I'm not sure if they 
do any longer as we no longer have radio shacks in Canada, but worth a try I 
should think.

Larry
- Original Message - 
From: patricknc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 9:22 PM
Subject: Looking for a special patch cord


 My wife is a medical transcriptionist just getting onto a newer system. 
 For
 this she needs to hear the doctor's dictation in 1 ear and the Jaws in the
 other.  We have a 2nd sound card and we have the two things separated to
 that point.  It seems to me that what we need is a patch cord that has a 
 3.5
 female jack on one end to plug the headphones into, and 2 separate cords
 with 3.5 male jacks on the other for the headphone jacks of the different
 sound cards.  Does anyone know if anyone manufactures a cord like that or
 will we just have to make one up?  Any help would be
 appreciated./Thanks!--Brian

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Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts

[Larry N]

I like your workarounds and your suggested changes. Perhaps if both of us 
present them, the ideas might carry more weight. Worth a try anyway.

Have you tried the cassette hiss filters. The impulse filters are also 
excellent for getting rid of pops and clicks.

I've heard a lot about audition 1.5 and I'd love to work with it, but I 
haven't been able to get my hands on a copy. Maybe one day.

Larry


- Original Message - 
From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 Larry
 I'm sure you'll know about the automatic scratch hiss and hum removal 
 preset
 in DC6 and 7. It actually can be pretty good at adjusting to various
 problems over a large file. The noise reduction presets are also 
 excellent -
 there's usually something which works. The compression and expansion along
 with the general exciter presets are varied and excellent. Version 7 
 claims
 to get rid of the many sound artifacts which can occur. I also have their
 audio mentor which interfaces with the main program linking and using 
 noise
 reduction and exciter presets effectively. I've to use the jaws cursor 
 here
 but it's good.

 The couple of problems we have in not having a fully accessible program 
 are
 as follows:
 1. The file navigation and selection tools need linking into standard
 Windows keypresses, as in Audition and Gold Wave. At present if I'm really
 stuck I'll take a noise sample from the file in Audition - just a second 
 or
 two - then analyse it in DC7, make a preset, then apply it to the whole
 file. Similarly if I'm really stuck I'll break the whole file into time
 sections which I take careful note of and after performing cleaning in DC7 
 I
 then rebuild the file so as not to be one frame out.
 2. The other place I would like access to is the multitab editor where you
 can chain a variety of effects so that they are all applied at once rather
 than just one at a time. You can then put together your favourites and 
 make
 a thorough and quicker difference.

 3. The preset boxes are pretty good but it would be good to have the 'fine
 tuning' sliders more easy to work. At present they will work with the Jaws
 cursor but it would be good to make adjustments by tabbing to the 
 particular
 area and making changes which you can hear instantly. To get round this 
 I'll
 place the Jaws cursor in the preset combo box, tab to the preview button,
 once it has started use the jaws cursor to go down the list of presets, 
 thus
 hearing each effect on the file in turn. It does work with not too much
 problem. As you say it's a wonderfully comprehensive sound editing package
 and so worth all this trouble.

 Have you tried Audition 1.5 (old now but effective) I can use this to home
 in on clicks and zap them.
 Regards.
 Gordon
 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 5:44 PM
 Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


I agree, and maybe between the two of us and anyone else who might be
 interested, we could get them to make some changes, perhaps even for an 
 in
 between upgrade that is released mainly to correct some other issue that
 pops up. Like you, I work with the program when I can make changes over 
 an
 entire file. Meanwhile, if while using DC6 for entire files I can zero in
 on
 small sections of a file using either GoldWave, WavePad or Sound Forge,
 I'm
 really interested in learning how. I don't think there's any windows
 software that allows you to key in to a small part of a file the way Dane
 does with the Mac program that he talks about, but I'd like to get closer
 to
 that than I am now.

 In the meantime, I very much like the changes that I can make happen with
 an
 entire file when using DC7. I do see the capability to push the program
 further than I could DC6 and I already liked DC6 a lot. Nice to see that
 someone else thinks so too.

 Larry
 - Original Message - 
 From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 9:33 AM
 Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 Hi Larry
 Hear, hear. I like DC7 but just wish files imported into it were more
 navigable. You're right however the staff are keen to make changes.
 Gordon- Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 7:04 PM
 Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 John, one thing you're dealing with when it comes to DC7 support staff
 is
 that they don't know a lot about screen reader specific issues. Part of
 the
 problem there is that they just haven't had a lot of blind users
 offering
 them feedback. On the plus side, I've found them to be very proactive
 when
 it comes to their willingness to support

Re: Looking for a special patch cord

[Larry N]

This is probably getting a bit off topic, but you're right, it is.  My point 
was just that the Source is part of Circuit City and doesn't necessarily 
carry what Radio Shack carries.

Larry

- Original Message -
 
From: Keith Gillard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 10:56 PM
Subject: Re: Looking for a special patch cord


 Canadian Radio Shack is now called the source!

 I like it better when it was called
 RadShack!
 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 7:56 PM
 Subject: Re: Looking for a special patch cord


 Brian, radio shack used to carry a Y adapter like that. I'm not sure if 
 they
 do any longer as we no longer have radio shacks in Canada, but worth a try 
 I
 should think.

 Larry
 - Original Message - 
 From: patricknc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 9:22 PM
 Subject: Looking for a special patch cord


 My wife is a medical transcriptionist just getting onto a newer system.
 For
 this she needs to hear the doctor's dictation in 1 ear and the Jaws in 
 the
 other.  We have a 2nd sound card and we have the two things separated to
 that point.  It seems to me that what we need is a patch cord that has a
 3.5
 female jack on one end to plug the headphones into, and 2 separate cords
 with 3.5 male jacks on the other for the headphone jacks of the different
 sound cards.  Does anyone know if anyone manufactures a cord like that or
 will we just have to make one up?  Any help would be
 appreciated./Thanks!--Brian

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Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts

[Larry N]

John, one thing you're dealing with when it comes to DC7 support staff is 
that they don't know a lot about screen reader specific issues. Part of the 
problem there is that they just haven't had a lot of blind users offering 
them feedback. On the plus side, I've found them to be very proactive when 
it comes to their willingness to support their product, whether the issue is 
accessibility or something else. To me, that is an important aspect when it 
comes to whether or not I purchase a product. DC7 allows you to play with 
every aspect of the program for ten days before buying it. They also offer 
phone and email support even for demos. For me, that counts for something. 
It may not be the only audio editing program you will ever need. But for my 
money, I would submit that there is no such thing. I use each program's 
strengths to accomplish what I need to accomplish. And at present, with all 
due respect to Sound Forge users, it is the program that I use the least. It 
is also the program that, for me, has generated the fewest ansers when it 
comes to how to questions which I have posted where and when appropriate. 
I make these observations with the full knowledge that other folks use Sound 
Forge exclusivey. I'm just sharing the oppinion that for me, and this is 
only for me, DC7 and Goldwave make the best possible combination that I've 
found.

Larry


- Original Message - 
From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 5:18 AM
Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 High Larry,
 Yes I did.
 I haven't had any problems with it yet, but the guy I spoke to yesterday,
 said that it had a lot of graphics in it.
 That's what got me thinking about Jaws scripts.
 But I see now, that they aren't really needed.
  John.
 PS. Is there a way that a totally blind person can monitor the VU meter
 without any sighted assistance?- Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 11:46 PM
 Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 Hi John. Have you downloaded the demo? I haven't used DC 6 or 7 with Jaws
 very much, but they work well with Window-eyes. Have you tried the DC7
 demo?
 It is a fully functional demo which works for 10 days before you're
 required
 to either give it up or open your wallet.

 An important note, DC7 offers more functionality and from an 
 accessibility
 standpoint it works the same as DC6. I would suggest downloading it and
 just
 see what you can do with it.

 Larry
 - Original Message - 
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:42 PM
 Subject: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 Hello list members,
 I went to:
 http://www.tracertek.com/index.asp
 and I was looking at 2 different types of software for audio editing and
 restoring.
 They are called DC-6 and DC7.
 I called them and asked them if any of their software was Jaws user
 friendly.
 When the guy I spoke too said something to me about graphics, I thought
 to
 myself, Jaw scripts will be needed in order for me to use this software.
 He did say however, that blind people have used the plug ins without any
 problems, but the rest of it had problems.
 But my real question is, can Jaw scripts be written for both DC-6 and
 DC-7?
 Thanks in advance.
  John.
 PS. DC-7 according to the website, just came out.
 Either one can give you the sound of vacuum tube equipment on your
 computer.
 Sorry Mack owners/users, this software is strictly for PC's.
 That's my only disappointment about it because I'm getting a Mack system
 later on down the road.

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Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts

[Larry N]

Hi John. Have you downloaded the demo? I haven't used DC 6 or 7 with Jaws 
very much, but they work well with Window-eyes. Have you tried the DC7 demo? 
It is a fully functional demo which works for 10 days before you're required 
to either give it up or open your wallet.

An important note, DC7 offers more funcionality and from an accessibility 
standpoint it works the same as DC6. I would suggest downloading it and just 
see what you can do with it.

Larry
- Original Message - 
From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:42 PM
Subject: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


 Hello list members,
 I went to:
 http://www.tracertek.com/index.asp
 and I was looking at 2 different types of software for audio editing and 
 restoring.
 They are called DC-6 and DC7.
 I called them and asked them if any of their software was Jaws user 
 friendly.
 When the guy I spoke too said something to me about graphics, I thought to 
 myself, Jaw scripts will be needed in order for me to use this software.
 He did say however, that blind people have used the plug ins without any 
 problems, but the rest of it had problems.
 But my real question is, can Jaw scripts be written for both DC-6 and 
 DC-7?
 Thanks in advance.
  John.
 PS. DC-7 according to the website, just came out.
 Either one can give you the sound of vacuum tube equipment on your 
 computer.
 Sorry Mack owners/users, this software is strictly for PC's.
 That's my only disappointment about it because I'm getting a Mack system 
 later on down the road.

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Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

[Larry N]

Hi Gary. Well of course I'm limited with wave forms. I think that's a 
problem with all such software. However, you do have built-in choices for 
the kind of noise that you want to reduce, and presets which allow you to 
work with the sound with what is quite honestly trial and error. However, 
the original sound is always saved, so you can mess around a bit without 
worrying. The kind of noise that I work with is surface noise from 78s, 
often with homemade recordings from back when people owned machines that 
recorded on 78s. I know the presets that I need for such recordings and 
apply them. When it comes to reducing cassette hiss, there are 4 different 
presets ranging from light to heavy handed and including everything in 
between which are clearly spoken and work extremely well with speech. You 
can also adjust those settings with your own variations and save them, much 
as you can in GoldWave.

I also use Dc6 a lot for recording. It's quick and simple to set up. And if 
you screw up the recoring somehow and want to start over, you just hit altF4 
and the program prompts you with speech, asking if you want to delete the 
current recording. As I said, fast, easy and painless. For recording ease 
alone the app is worth it to me.

Now, as a Sound Forge user, can you tell me how to go about reducing vinyl 
pops clicks and other anomalies using Sound Forge? It's probably me, but I'm 
not getting it. All i see is a choice that calls itself audio restoration 
and offers 2 different choices for restoring.

By the way, I have Window-eyes 6.1 and Jaws 8. Would scripts help? If so, 
where do I get them and what in the world do I do with them once I have 
them?

Larry
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Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


usually you have to buy the soundforge noise reduction plugin separately, I 
think
it may be bundled with version 9. How do you use the editor in DC 6?
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Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


My biggest knock on Sound Forge is that it is, as others have pointed out,
so overloaded with features that try to be everybody's everything.
Still, I purchased version 8.0 sometime back and would like to get all I can
from it. Can you tell me where to find its noise reduction features and how
to work with them?

As for DC 6, my only criticism would be the manual's inaccessibility.I
Haven't had a lot of trouble in getting around the program.

Larry
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Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 4:37 AM
Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


the biggest complaint I have about Goldwave is that the noise reduction
isn't very
good at all. Soundforge is much better in this respect. I used to like the
Diamond
Cut programs for noise reduction too, but for editing files for a blind
person was
and probably still is difficult. if studio recorder from APH had some kind
of
noise reduction, I might have sprung for it, but it is pricy, so if I am
going to
shell out money, I'll buy soundforge again. wavepad does some nice things
too, but
seemed rather limited in what it does do so I quit using it. I thought it
could be
a little easier to do basic editing functions with it.



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Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:08 PM
Subject: Goldwave Audio Editor


Ok, well I'm very impressed with this editing package and in a lot of
ways I believe Goldwave to be more functional and practical than Sound
Forge ever was or probably is ever likely to be, the layout of the
manual is very well done and easy to get around.
I went to the site at http://www.goldwave.com but I couldn't find a
purchase price anywhere and (to my slight annoyance) it seems that
Goldwave INC won't take paypal damn! but if its a fair price then
I'll save to purchase this.

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Re: The removal of beautiful noise

[Larry N]

Sorry Denny, it's only available for a Mac platform..

Larry
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I also remove pops and clicks from vinyl.  Is this software amedus 
available
 on a pc platform too?
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Re: Goldwave Audio Editor

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My biggest knock on Sound Forge is that it is, as others have pointed out, 
so overloaded with features that try to be everybody's everything.
Still, I purchased version 8.0 sometime back and would like to get all I can 
from it. Can you tell me where to find its noise reduction features and how 
to work with them?

As for DC 6, my only criticism would be the manual's inaccessibility.I 
Haven't had a lot of trouble in getting around the program.

Larry
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Subject: Re: Goldwave Audio Editor


the biggest complaint I have about Goldwave is that the noise reduction 
isn't very
good at all. Soundforge is much better in this respect. I used to like the 
Diamond
Cut programs for noise reduction too, but for editing files for a blind 
person was
and probably still is difficult. if studio recorder from APH had some kind 
of
noise reduction, I might have sprung for it, but it is pricy, so if I am 
going to
shell out money, I'll buy soundforge again. wavepad does some nice things 
too, but
seemed rather limited in what it does do so I quit using it. I thought it 
could be
a little easier to do basic editing functions with it.



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Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:08 PM
Subject: Goldwave Audio Editor


Ok, well I'm very impressed with this editing package and in a lot of
ways I believe Goldwave to be more functional and practical than Sound
Forge ever was or probably is ever likely to be, the layout of the
manual is very well done and easy to get around.
I went to the site at http://www.goldwave.com but I couldn't find a
purchase price anywhere and (to my slight annoyance) it seems that
Goldwave INC won't take paypal damn! but if its a fair price then
I'll save to purchase this.

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Re: Noise Reduction plug-ins

[Larry N]

Dane, Have you tried the Total Recorder add-on for pop/click removal? Just 
wondering if there's anything exceptional about it.

Larry
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Subject: Noise Reduction plug-ins


I've only ever really seriously used noise reduction plug-ins to
remove hiss or constant noise through capturing a noise print, all
I've tried thus far (and these include the offerings from Sound Forge,
Total Recorder and Amadeus Pro) have done an excellent job at this task.
When it comes to more difficult noise removal? Well (and again this is
my experience) I've found I get better results when I got a sighted
friend to pencil in the various noises and remove them manually.

On 03/03/2008, at 12:42 AM, Bruce Toews wrote:

 I've found, and this is only my personal experience, that if one knows
 what one is doing, the noise reduction on Gold Wave can be every bit
 as
 good as that with Sound Forge ... or bad, depending on how you look
 at it.
 I'm not a believer in noise reduction by amateurs with any program,
 and
 that includes me.

 Bruce

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 On Sun, 2 Mar 2008, Gary G Schindler wrote:

 the biggest complaint I have about Goldwave is that the noise
 reduction isn't very
 good at all. Soundforge is much better in this respect. I used to
 like the Diamond
 Cut programs for noise reduction too, but for editing files for a
 blind person was
 and probably still is difficult. if studio recorder from APH had
 some kind of
 noise reduction, I might have sprung for it, but it is pricy, so if
 I am going to
 shell out money, I'll buy soundforge again. wavepad does some nice
 things too, but
 seemed rather limited in what it does do so I quit using it. I
 thought it could be
 a little easier to do basic editing functions with it.



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 From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:08 PM
 Subject: Goldwave Audio Editor


 Ok, well I'm very impressed with this editing package and in a lot of
 ways I believe Goldwave to be more functional and practical than
 Sound
 Forge ever was or probably is ever likely to be, the layout of the
 manual is very well done and easy to get around.
 I went to the site at http://www.goldwave.com but I couldn't find a
 purchase price anywhere and (to my slight annoyance) it seems that
 Goldwave INC won't take paypal damn! but if its a fair price then
 I'll save to purchase this.

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Re: sound editing?

[Larry N]

Hi Billy. Interesting question. I have 4 sound editors onboard. There's 
GoldWave, Sound Forge 8, DC 6 and WavePad. If you are asking about simple 
ease of use, accessibility and a manual that is easy to understand and set 
up in a way that can be accessed quickly, then GoldWave wins hands down. 
However, there are tasks that DC6 performs better than any piece of software 
that I've ever used. For instance, it has excellent hiss reduction and 
comprehensive noise reduction. The down side is that its manual is difficult 
to use with speech.

And Sound Forge? I truly feel that I get less out of it than I probably 
should, simply due to a lack of understanding. For instance, Sound Forge 
works with editable files which are made into and edited from what the 
program calls regions. What is a region? I'm not exactly sure, nor am I 
certain how to go about creating one or editing the thing with keyboard 
alone. Perhaps it is my own inability to understand, but none of the Sound 
Forge faithful have been able to show me why this program is worth its hefty 
price tag. I would still love to know how to take a recorded file, such as 
that generated by a vinyl LP and edit out pops clicks and extraneous noise, 
then burn it onto a CD using Sound Forge only. Others in this group can do 
so, however I have not succeeded as yet.

Meanwhile, with the exception of actually burning the CD, I can edit a 
project from start to finish using either GoldWave or DC6,

To be entirely fair, I can perform some tasks more quickly while using Sound 
Forge. It's equalizer is superior. Its general audio restoration feature 
works quickly and for the most part reliably when applied to an entire file. 
But I don't find the manual easy to use, so I'm sure I'm not getting the 
most from the program.

As for WavePad, that hasn't been discussed much here. I own a copy, but to 
be honest, I haven't played with it a great deal as yet.

Others will have their own ideas, but if I were buying my first audio editor 
which could take me far beyond the beginner stage, I would choose GoldWave.

Hope this helps you in some small way.

Larry

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Subject: sound editing?


 hi guys,
 what is the best sound editing software on the market today?.

 What is the basic differences between Gold Wave  SoundForge?,

 What are the latest versions of both pieces of software, and which is more
 speech friendly?,
 Billy
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Re: sound editing?

[Larry N]

You're right. That's probably one of the reasons why I use it so much. As 
for scrubbing, I'm not even sure what scrubbing is. Can you enlighten?

Larry


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Subject: Re: sound editing?


 Gold Wave's manual is very well-written, and the author has bent over
 backwards over the past year to add more accessibility features. He even
 added scrubbing, a feature whose usefulness I'll never appreciate but
 which seems to be deeply engrained in the hearts of many as
 un-live-withoutable.

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 On Sun, 2 Mar 2008, Dane Trethowan wrote:

 Yes, I've heard a lot about Goldwave but never tried it yet, ah well
 it won't do any harm to add it to the editor collection. The Sound
 Forge manual is a monster, when I last looked at it I think it was
 about 400 pages or more, anyone digested each and every page of it
 yet? I was considerably impressed with Wavepad too, been a while since
 I looked at it but I don't think it was too badly priced either.
 Audasity should be worthwile investigating too if features available
 in 1.35 beta make it to the next official version.

 On 02/03/2008, at 5:00 AM, Larry N wrote:

 Hi Billy. Interesting question. I have 4 sound editors onboard.
 There's
 GoldWave, Sound Forge 8, DC 6 and WavePad. If you are asking about
 simple
 ease of use, accessibility and a manual that is easy to understand
 and set
 up in a way that can be accessed quickly, then GoldWave wins hands
 down.
 However, there are tasks that DC6 performs better than any piece of
 software
 that I've ever used. For instance, it has excellent hiss reduction and
 comprehensive noise reduction. The down side is that its manual is
 difficult
 to use with speech.

 And Sound Forge? I truly feel that I get less out of it than I
 probably
 should, simply due to a lack of understanding. For instance, Sound
 Forge
 works with editable files which are made into and edited from what the
 program calls regions. What is a region? I'm not exactly sure, nor
 am I
 certain how to go about creating one or editing the thing with
 keyboard
 alone. Perhaps it is my own inability to understand, but none of the
 Sound
 Forge faithful have been able to show me why this program is worth
 its hefty
 price tag. I would still love to know how to take a recorded file,
 such as
 that generated by a vinyl LP and edit out pops clicks and extraneous
 noise,
 then burn it onto a CD using Sound Forge only. Others in this group
 can do
 so, however I have not succeeded as yet.

 Meanwhile, with the exception of actually burning the CD, I can edit a
 project from start to finish using either GoldWave or DC6,

 To be entirely fair, I can perform some tasks more quickly while
 using Sound
 Forge. It's equalizer is superior. Its general audio restoration
 feature
 works quickly and for the most part reliably when applied to an
 entire file.
 But I don't find the manual easy to use, so I'm sure I'm not getting
 the
 most from the program.

 As for WavePad, that hasn't been discussed much here. I own a copy,
 but to
 be honest, I haven't played with it a great deal as yet.

 Others will have their own ideas, but if I were buying my first
 audio editor
 which could take me far beyond the beginner stage, I would choose
 GoldWave.

 Hope this helps you in some small way.

 Larry

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 What are the latest versions of both pieces of software, and which
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Re: Napster's wma bit rate

[Larry N]

That is a drawback. Also, with Napster, you only have access to the music 
for as long as you are a member. You're kind of renting it. I've been an 
Emusic member several times. Then when I run out of new downloads that are 
worth my time and effort, I drop out for a while.

Larry

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Subject: Re: Napster's wma bit rate


 Thanks Larry. It's a shame they don't do 320 like emusic.
 Thanks for the info however.
 Gordon
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 Hi Gordon. Most of the files I've downloaded from Napster are at 192, 
 with
 a
 few at 128.

 Larry
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 Hi
 Can anyone enlighten me as to bit rates used by Napster downloads?
 Thanks.
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Re: Napster's wma bit rate

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Hi Gordon. Most of the files I've downloaded from Napster are at 192, with a 
few at 128.

Larry
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 Can anyone enlighten me as to bit rates used by Napster downloads?
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Re: Yahoo's Music Unlimited Being Discontinued

[Larry N]

Yes it has stations and their quality is quite good. The limitation there is 
that they claim to be jaws compliant which they are, but the stations 
don't work with Window-Eyes. I have both, so I've been able to confirm the 
accuracy of that claim. I'd be interested to hear if any Window-Eyes users 
have been able to make the stations work as that is the screen reader that I 
prefer to use when possible and practical.

You can also play many of the tracks on the service, and download them for 
use for as long as you subscribe.

The only down side is that some tracks, too many in my view, are only 
available for purchase. It seems to me that if you are paying $10 a month, 
you should be able to download all tracks on the service for use as long as 
you are a subscriber without paying extra to purchase them if that is your 
choice. My own trial period is nearing its end, and if I don't continue as a 
subscriber, that one down side will be the reason why.

Hope this helps you.

Larry

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Subject: Re: Yahoo's Music Unlimited Being Discontinued


 Hi
  does this service stream or do you just buy music?  Does it have 
 stations?
 Thanks for any information.

 Marsha


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 Subject: Re: Yahoo's Music Unlimited Being Discontinued


 Marsha, Napster is cheaper, quite accessible and incidentally does not
 exclude those of us who live in Canada, the way that so many American
 services do. I know that in Canada you can try the service for a week 
 before
 your credit card is charged. In the States there are promo codes out there
 which allow a 2 week trial.

 Hope this helps.

 Larry
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   I am very sorry to see that Yahoo's Music unlimited is being
 discontinued, or I should say combined with Rapsity.  I like Yahoo's
 service
 very well.  I'm afraid Rapsity will be more dificult not to mention more
 expensive.

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Re: Nero

[Larry N]

Bruce, it's interesting that you say what you said about Easy CD-DA 
Extractor. I'm not a huge Nero fan and have been looking at Easy CD as an 
alternative. This leads to 2 questions.

First, is it possible to set diffent pause lengths between individual tracks 
on one Cd. For instance, 2 seconds between tracks 2 and 3, 1 second between 
4 and 5 and 0 seconds between 7 and 8. If so, how is this accomplished?

Secondly, I've heard that in Easy CD version 11, the F8 key no longer works 
as a burn CD or rip command. Is this true, and if so, what's the workaround?

Thanks for any and all responses.

Larry
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Subject: Re: Nero


I would seriously consider trying Easy CD-DA Extractor. I can't think of a
 thing Nero does that Easy CD-DA Extractor does not, and the latter also
 does many things that Nero can't do.
 Bruce

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Re: Yahoo's Music Unlimited Being Discontinued

[Larry N]

Marsha, Napster is cheaper, quite accessible and incidentally does not 
exclude those of us who live in Canada, the way that so many American 
services do. I know that in Canada you can try the service for a week before 
your credit card is charged. In the States there are promo codes out there 
which allow a 2 week trial.

Hope this helps.

Larry
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Subject: Yahoo's Music Unlimited Being Discontinued


   I am very sorry to see that Yahoo's Music unlimited is being
 discontinued, or I should say combined with Rapsity.  I like Yahoo's 
 service
 very well.  I'm afraid Rapsity will be more dificult not to mention more
 expensive.

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Re: iTunes and Audio Editing Questions for Mac Users

[Larry N]

Thanks Tim. I was trying to buy albums at iTunes, which I guess explains why 
I hit a brick wall until I got help. guess I'll have to buy somewhere else, 
though we have fewer choices for that sort of thing in Canada.

Larry

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Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 6:49 AM
Subject: Re: iTunes and Audio Editing Questions for Mac Users


 Here's the deal.  Some parts of Itunes are accessible, in fact a lot
 of it is, but you can't purchase albums.  You can purchase videos,
 audio books or movies if you are lucky enough to find them in a search
 of the Itunes store.  You'll need sighted help to access your account,
 and every-time they do an update to Itunes you won't be able to
 purchase anything without getting some sighted help to hit the agree
 button on an agreement between you and the Itunes music store.
 On Feb 10, 2008, at 1:17 PM, Larry N wrote:

 When trying to purchase downloads from the iTunes store while using
 windows,
 I found the process to be 100 percent inaccessible. I needed my
 wife's help
 through the entire process, which means to me that iTunes
 workability with
 windows is unacceptable.

 That being said, we have it in mind to purchase a Mac as a next
 computer.
 So, would an iTunes purchase be possible for a blind person to
 complete
 independently while using a Mac. Taking it a step further, I would
 like to
 hear from anyone who has experience with editing audio on a Mac, be
 it good
 bad or indifferent.

 If answering either question would move us out of the realm of what is
 acceptable on this list, please feel free to email me personally.

 Thanks for any suggestions, oppinions or general comments.

 Larry



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Re: iTunes and Audio Editing Questions for Mac Users

[Larry N]

Thanks John. Real cheap speaks to me. I'll check it out.

Larry
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Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: iTunes and Audio Editing Questions for Mac Users


 High Larry,
 If I could, I would like to suggest a site to you.
 The site is, CD Universe.
 http://www.cduniverse.com/
 You can't download any books music and or movies here, but you can buy 
 books
 music and movies on CD DVD LP or VHS cassette.
 And you can get them real cheep!
 My best regards.
  John.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 10:23 AM
 Subject: Re: iTunes and Audio Editing Questions for Mac Users


 Thanks Tim. I was trying to buy albums at iTunes, which I guess explains
 why
 I hit a brick wall until I got help. guess I'll have to buy somewhere
 else,
 though we have fewer choices for that sort of thing in Canada.

 Larry

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 From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 6:49 AM
 Subject: Re: iTunes and Audio Editing Questions for Mac Users


 Here's the deal.  Some parts of Itunes are accessible, in fact a lot
 of it is, but you can't purchase albums.  You can purchase videos,
 audio books or movies if you are lucky enough to find them in a search
 of the Itunes store.  You'll need sighted help to access your account,
 and every-time they do an update to Itunes you won't be able to
 purchase anything without getting some sighted help to hit the agree
 button on an agreement between you and the Itunes music store.
 On Feb 10, 2008, at 1:17 PM, Larry N wrote:

 When trying to purchase downloads from the iTunes store while using
 windows,
 I found the process to be 100 percent inaccessible. I needed my
 wife's help
 through the entire process, which means to me that iTunes
 workability with
 windows is unacceptable.

 That being said, we have it in mind to purchase a Mac as a next
 computer.
 So, would an iTunes purchase be possible for a blind person to
 complete
 independently while using a Mac. Taking it a step further, I would
 like to
 hear from anyone who has experience with editing audio on a Mac, be
 it good
 bad or indifferent.

 If answering either question would move us out of the realm of what is
 acceptable on this list, please feel free to email me personally.

 Thanks for any suggestions, oppinions or general comments.

 Larry



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iTunes and Audio Editing Questions for Mac Users

[Larry N]

When trying to purchase downloads from the iTunes store while using windows, 
I found the process to be 100 percent inaccessible. I needed my wife's help 
through the entire process, which means to me that iTunes workability with 
windows is unacceptable.

That being said, we have it in mind to purchase a Mac as a next computer. 
So, would an iTunes purchase be possible for a blind person to complete 
independently while using a Mac. Taking it a step further, I would like to 
hear from anyone who has experience with editing audio on a Mac, be it good 
bad or indifferent.

If answering either question would move us out of the realm of what is 
acceptable on this list, please feel free to email me personally.

Thanks for any suggestions, oppinions or general comments.

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Re: Napster question

[Larry N]

Thanks Brian, I'll do that.

Larry
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From: Brian Hartgen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 1:59 AM
Subject: Re: Napster question


 No the standalone client is very usable.  If you go to my web site at
 www.hartgen.org/miscellaneous.html
 you can download an audio tutorial I produced a few months back about 
 using Napster.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Larry N
  To: PC Audio Discussion List
  Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 11:57 PM
  Subject: Napster question



  Hi. A few days ago someone posted a message stating that to use Napster 
 with
  a screen reader, it was necessary to access using their web based 
 interface.
  Since I'm considering giving napster a try among other services, I have a
  couple of questions. First, if I'm downloading from a web based interface
  rather than using their software, is there still something that I need to
  download as a subscriber in order to download files? Second, When 
 accessing
  on the web can one do everything that other users accomplish with 
 downloaded
  software?

  These may sound like beginner questions but my only recent downloading
  experience is with Emusic. Very easy to use and super reliable, but their
  selection, though interesting, eclectic  and with some excellent choices
  also has a ton of gaps when it comes to many major artists. So I'm 
 looking
  around. No problem paying a bit. I just want it to work.

  Larry



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Re: Napster question

[Larry N]

Interesting. The Canadian site still says $9.95, or at least did as of 
yesterday. There is also a higher level subscription of some sort for 
$14.95.

Larry


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From: Doc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 2:02 AM
Subject: Re: Napster question


 So you know that as of this month the subscription price has increased to
 $12.95.

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 whether or not they give to you in return, It   matters not for your job 
 is
 Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.


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 - Original Message - 
 From: Jim Fettgather [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 10:47 PM
 Subject: Re: Napster question


 I have found that you can subscribe  for $9.95 a month, and for that 
 price,
 you can stream any of their massive collection at any time, create play
 lists and libraries, and listen too entire albums  without difficulty.

 I have checked for both obscure and well known titles, and have found all
 of
 them on the site.


 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary G Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED] of their music, unlimited,
 create web based play lists,

 ail.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:13 PM
 Subject: Re: Napster question


 you shall have to download the napster software to play and purchase
 music. I
 haven't fooled with it lately, so can't comment on how accessible it is
 at
 this
 time.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 6:57 PM
 Subject: Napster question



 Hi. A few days ago someone posted a message stating that to use Napster
 with
 a screen reader, it was necessary to access using their web based
 interface.
 Since I'm considering giving napster a try among other services, I have
 a
 couple of questions. First, if I'm downloading from a web based
 interface
 rather than using their software, is there still something that I need
 to
 download as a subscriber in order to download files? Second, When
 accessing
 on the web can one do everything that other users accomplish with
 downloaded
 software?

 These may sound like beginner questions but my only recent downloading
 experience is with Emusic. Very easy to use and super reliable, but
 their
 selection, though interesting, eclectic  and with some excellent choices
 also has a ton of gaps when it comes to many major artists. So I'm
 looking
 around. No problem paying a bit. I just want it to work.

 Larry



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Re: Napster question

[Larry N]

Doc, I found a review of Napster's web based interface at the following 
link.
http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/071016/0315689.html

Larry

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Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: Napster question


 I've never heard of this web based interface.  I've been with nabster for
 the last two years and I have always had to use their software.  In many
 cases it is better now then it has been in the past.

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  When you give unto others
 whether or not they give to you in return, It   matters not for your job 
 is
 Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.


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 msn
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 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 4:57 PM
 Subject: Napster question



 Hi. A few days ago someone posted a message stating that to use Napster
 with
 a screen reader, it was necessary to access using their web based
 interface.
 Since I'm considering giving napster a try among other services, I have a
 couple of questions. First, if I'm downloading from a web based interface
 rather than using their software, is there still something that I need to
 download as a subscriber in order to download files? Second, When 
 accessing
 on the web can one do everything that other users accomplish with
 downloaded
 software?

 These may sound like beginner questions but my only recent downloading
 experience is with Emusic. Very easy to use and super reliable, but their
 selection, though interesting, eclectic  and with some excellent choices
 also has a ton of gaps when it comes to many major artists. So I'm looking
 around. No problem paying a bit. I just want it to work.

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Napster question

[Larry N]

Hi. A few days ago someone posted a message stating that to use Napster with 
a screen reader, it was necessary to access using their web based interface. 
Since I'm considering giving napster a try among other services, I have a 
couple of questions. First, if I'm downloading from a web based interface 
rather than using their software, is there still something that I need to 
download as a subscriber in order to download files? Second, When accessing 
on the web can one do everything that other users accomplish with downloaded 
software?

These may sound like beginner questions but my only recent downloading 
experience is with Emusic. Very easy to use and super reliable, but their 
selection, though interesting, eclectic  and with some excellent choices 
also has a ton of gaps when it comes to many major artists. So I'm looking 
around. No problem paying a bit. I just want it to work.

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Re: HD radio

[Larry N]

We have a bunch of digital music cable channels that pose that problem for 
me. Title and artist are printed on the screen, but my wife shouldn't have 
to be my DJ every time I want to know what song is playing.

Most of the XM stations that I've listened to will at least back announce 
after every 4 or 5 songs, and the decade channeles have jocks that talk even 
more. Plus XM play lists are much much larger than those offered by 
commercial stations. I thought the antenna might have a problem working 
inside, but the signal strength  is at its highest possible level with the 
antenna sitting against our living room window.

Larry

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Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 4:23 AM
Subject: Re: HD radio


 My main objection to any kind of this type of radio is not knowing what's
 being played.  I would like to know how to find out who the artists are 
 and
 what the song titles.
 Drives me nuts.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 6:29 PM
 Subject: Re: HD radio


 Here in Canada we don't have HD, but I've listened to a lot of it online.
 With a couple of exceptions, it's pretty much all music, no commercials
 and
 no jocks. Play lists are, in many cases expanded and formats are not 
 quite
 as restrictive and unimaginative as most commercial stations.

 I wouldn't be surprised if you find that XM is the superior product. I 
 got
 and XM radio for Christmas and I love it. Still, if I lived somewhere 
 that
 offered a decent number of Hd choices, I'd give it a try.

 Larry
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 Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 9:28 PM
 Subject: HD radio


 I'm thinking of taking the plung and trying HD radio.  The prices are
 lower than they were a year ago.  Any one tried it yet?

 I still like my XM satellite radio but like to try new radios.


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Re: HD radio

[Larry N]

Adrian, in Internet Explorer, to add a station's direct audio link to 
favorites, do the following.
1. Right click the link to the station's audio feed.
2. arrow down to the choice that says add to favorites and press enter.
3.  Follow the usual process for placing the new favorite in any folder that 
you like.

What I do then is to right click the favorite, send the link to my desktop 
and place it in a folder which is devoted to the stations that I like. Then 
when I want to listen to one, I don't even need to open the browser.

If the station has an embedded player and won't let me add the listen link 
to my favorites or to my desktop, I can at least ad a shortcut for the 
listen page to my desktop folder, again, avoiding the need to open the 
browser.

HTH

Larry


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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: HD radio


 Cornell,

 I see the point of this suggestion, saving you an extra step when clicking
 on a station's feed, but I'm not clear how you locate an icon in order to
 copy it into that favorites folder. Would you clarify?

 Thanks.
 - Original Message -
 From: Cornell Ligon [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I think so. I created a folder in favorites titled Net Radio and merely
 paste icons of my favorite stations right into it. I paste the icon 
 directly
 from whichever page actually plays the content, so I don't have to click 
 on
 the link each time I visit the site, such as ESPN live streams, WTAM live
 streams, windows Media stand up comedy and etc. I chose stations that have 
 a
 good bit rate, so quality of sound is excellent.

 Best Regards, Cornell

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Subject: Re: HD radio
 Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 02:07:50 -0500

 Hi Bob! Would it indeed be better to listen to internet radio? Could that 
 be
 in fact better, maybe?
 - Original Message -
 From: Bob Seed
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 4:16 PM
 Subject: Re: HD radio

 I wouldn't waist my money on HD radio at this time, as HD radio is still 
 in
 the experimental stages of its development. There are still a number of
 technical issues that have to be ironed out. In Canada, for an example HD
 licences for broadcasters are issued conditionally on an experimental 
 basis
 only. If I had my druthers I would purchase a satellite radio before going
 HD. When was the last time that you heard an ad on television saying that
 the latest model of a given car comes complete with an HD radio? We all 
 know
 what happened to am stereo,it appeared to be a good idea at the time,
 however the manufacturers of radio receivers failed to come through with 
 the
 goods, and the system failed. Another example was the Sony beta system, as
 the public showed favour towards the VHS cassette. Now we are faced with
 another dilemma, blue ray up against yet another competitive format. I 
 have
 had a satelite radio for almost two years now, and frankly would not 
 switch
 back. Some times it is best to sit on the sidelines for awhile until such
 time that all of the technical bugs of a given system are ironed out.
 - Original Message -
 From: chris ramsay
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 1:29 PM
 Subject: Re: HD radio

 i got a sony hd radio and and am very pleased with it although it is not 
 the
 best for am broadcasts it does a better job than any of the others i 
 tested.
 chris ramsay
 - Original Message -
 From: Cornell Ligon
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 10:47 AM
 Subject: RE: HD radio

 you can get a ton of HD radio info at www.hdradio.com with local listings 
 in
 a given area.

 from what I understand from one of my local audio dealers, audiocraft in
 greater cleveland, most aren't very good for am broadcasts. I'm probably
 going to get an Internet WI-FI portable and merely paste my icons into it
 taking it around wherever I go and pluggin into either my comp, home 
 stereo
 or a pair of portable speakers that I have planted throughout my house,
 garage and patio...

 for the cost of an HD, I'd probably go satellite as well. Probably will 
 get
 sirius online this weekend and listen to at home or work comp without
 purchasing any hardware, because not necessary to listen to on bus and can
 access via wife's phone pda in the car via fm transmitter.

 Best Regards, Cornell

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Subject: Re: HD radio
 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:19:38 -0500

 Radio Shack wants $299.00 for the receptor radio they must have quit 
 selling
 there Accurian model. I couldn't find it.

 look to see what Circuit City and Best Buy sells HD radios for. Sony sells
 one much cheaper than Boston Acoustics.

 - Original Message -
 From: Adrian Spratt
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 9:33 AM
 Subject: Re: HD radio

 I 

Re: HD radio

[Larry N]

Here in Canada we don't have HD, but I've listened to a lot of it online. 
With a couple of exceptions, it's pretty much all music, no commercials and 
no jocks. Play lists are, in many cases expanded and formats are not quite 
as restrictive and unimaginative as most commercial stations.

I wouldn't be surprised if you find that XM is the superior product. I got 
and XM radio for Christmas and I love it. Still, if I lived somewhere that 
offered a decent number of Hd choices, I'd give it a try.

Larry
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To: PC Audio Discussion List Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 9:28 PM
Subject: HD radio


 I'm thinking of taking the plung and trying HD radio.  The prices are
 lower than they were a year ago.  Any one tried it yet?

 I still like my XM satellite radio but like to try new radios.


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Problem with audio muting at random

[Larry N]

Hi. I have a problem with my sound card muting all audio, seemingly at 
random. Everything looks normal on the computer but there is no sound. And 
if I open up Sounds and Audio devices, everything shows as muted.

This problem can happen once and then not happen again for 3 months or it 
can happen 2 days in a row while I'm in the middle of work. So far, there's 
no rhyme or reason for this anomaly.

My question then? Aside from trusting Windows to maintain a given audio 
setting, might there be software that forces audio to assume certain 
settings upon rebooting? Failing that, could I somehowe save a given audio 
configuration to the desktop, one thatI could locate and press to force my 
audio settings to take effect? This is an extremely random problem, so I 
would like a method of countering it while I try to figure out what's 
causing it.

Thanks for any ideas.

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Winamp Remote

[Larry N]

Hi there. After having some problems with Winamp 5.35, I finally downloaded 
Winamp 5.5. Now, every time I boot the computer, something called Winamp 
remote wants to be loaded. Could someone please let me know how I can stop 
thiss from happening? This is a backup machine without a lot of space, which 
is primarily used to stream XM without the need to buy a second receiver. If 
it weren't for that feature, I think that I would seek another player. The 
new Winamp may be a fine choice for the majority of folks and that's great, 
but let's just say that I'm not personally pleased with the player's recent 
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Re: Winamp Remote, problem solbed

[Larry N]

When I reinstalled Winamp using a custom install, I found that one could 
choose to decline the installation of Winamp remote and adjust a bunch of 
other things, just as Chris suggested. Thanks very much Cris and sorry for 
the false alarm.

Larry


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Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 9:32 AM
Subject: Winamp Remote


 Hi there. After having some problems with Winamp 5.35, I finally 
 downloaded
 Winamp 5.5. Now, every time I boot the computer, something called Winamp
 remote wants to be loaded. Could someone please let me know how I can stop
 thiss from happening? This is a backup machine without a lot of space, 
 which
 is primarily used to stream XM without the need to buy a second receiver. 
 If
 it weren't for that feature, I think that I would seek another player. The
 new Winamp may be a fine choice for the majority of folks and that's 
 great,
 but let's just say that I'm not personally pleased with the player's 
 recent
 direction. Any suggestions for neutralizing Winamp remote?



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Re: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things

[Larry N]

I've got version 10, where f8 works as it always has. If I'm only burning 
CDs and converting files, is there really any reason for upgrading?

Larry
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Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things


 So far I'm still hearing reasons for sticking with v9.  I'm still waiting 
 to hear
 whether or not you can tell if a track is selected.

 **
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 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 7:01 AM
 Subject: RE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things


 Thanks for that, see how you get on. A friend alerted me to this 9for want
 of a better word) problem, I was up until a few days ago using Easy CD DA
 Extractor Version 10.5 and things worked a bit differently, you used the
 context key on a folder, selected convert with Easy CD DA Extractor, the
 software would launch, you made your settings (I.E. output format, 
 folders,
 file name etc) and pressed f8, the conversion process started and now this
 thing just won't work for me for some reason, won't work for my friend
 either so if anyone gets it working let us know.


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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie
 Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2007 12:56 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things

 I haven't had an occasion to try burning or converting, since I upgraded 
 to
 11. I'll try playing with those features, over the holiday weekend, and
 report back.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 8:21 AM
 Subject: RE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things


 They're enabled, the converter actually launches but the convet button 
 and
 option in the actions menu is disabled for some reason.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie
 Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2007 12:16 AM
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 Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things

 Go to Options, General Settings, Do you have the Enable Windows Explorer
 Context Menus check box checked?
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 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 7:39 AM
 Subject: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things


 Ok, in the older version of Easy CD DA Extractor I was using before I
 upgraded, I was able to say select a folder containing sub-folders
 containing say wave files, press the Windows Context key from Windows
 Explorer, click on the Convert With Easy CD DA Extractor, the software
 would then launch where I could then change the settings for my required
 job
 and press f8 to start the conversion. Now this behavior has changed, the
 option is still there but the convert button is disabled on the screen
 and
 in the Easy CD DA Actions menu, anyone have any idea of what I'm doing
 wrong?




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Re: Total Recorder

[Larry N]

Clicked your link and got it the first try.

Larry

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Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 1:38 PM
Subject: Total Recorder


 Hi!

 Just been looking to see what the latest news is regarding total recorder 
 at
 http://www.highcriteria.com http://www.highcriteria.com/  and it appears
 the web site isn't functioning, I take it the product is still being
 developped and sold?






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Re: accessible world.org questiion

[Larry N]

Hi. I folllowed your link and it took me straight to accessible world.

Larry
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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 8:30 PM
Subject: accessible world.org questiion


 Hi All, I amtrying to reach the accessible world.org site uusing the  url 
 below with no success.  Am I typing in something wrong?

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Re: Splitting Files with Cool Edit or Other Audio Program, Urgent, Job Related

[Larry N]

Hi Beth. I have most of the popular sound editors onboard and when it comes 
to splitting files, I would recommend GoldWave. In my own work, I use it for 
that purpose every day. Not only is it easy to split files, but the cost is 
only around $50, which should make it easier to sell your employer on the 
purchase. The entire program is very easy to use with a screen reader and, 
as has been noted here, scripts are available for Jaws users. It will 
definitely do what you need it to do quickly and efficiently.

Larry

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Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 10:32 PM
Subject: Splitting Files with Cool Edit or Other Audio Program, Urgent,Job 
Related



 Hello everyone,

 Please be forewarned, I'm a pc tech by training but I'm not an audio 
 expert,
 so please be gentle with me because I'm in dire need of your expert
 assistance.smile

 I am supposed to start a job this week where I need to record and then
 listen to tech support calls from agents taking live calls for an internet
 provider.  My job is to split these calls into separate files and save 
 them.
 My boss is doing this visually by looking at the wave forms.  I'm familiar
 with the concept of wave forms, and I can read the negative, 0 numbers, 
 and
 the positive numbers with the JAWS cursor.  Unfortunately, using Cool Edit
 and JAWS 8.0, the software they are using, I can't seem to tell where one
 call begins and where the that call ends and then where the next call
 begins.  I'm supposed to record the calls, separate them, save each one 
 into
 a separate file, rate it in terms of quality, and send my feedback to the
 powers that be.

Because I couldn't find the Cool Edit scripts, I downloaded Gold wave
 5.22 and the new JAWS scripts.  Gold wave looks more promising, I read the
 manual and it appears that I should be able to do what I need to do, but 
 it
 is confusing because when I receive my file of calls, I don't know ahead 
 of
 time how long the calls are and where the silences are so that I can save
 each call as a different file.

Thanks for your patience, folks.  My questions are these:  Can I do 
 this
 with Cool Edit, that is what my colleagues are using?  Or should I use
 something else like Gold wave, Audacity, or Sound Forge?  There are other
 people with disabilities at the job site, but I'm the only blind person. 
 I
 will try to use what works best if it isn't Cool Edit, but I'll have to
 convince my boss that this would better.

 If you'd rather not clutter up the list, please feel free to email me
 privately at [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Thank you in advance for any help or
 suggestions!

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Re: winamp 5.5 problem

[Larry N]

Winamp 5.35 and pretty much all earlier winap versions can be downloaded at 
the Winamp Heaven site. Not sure of the url but you can google it.

Larry

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Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: winamp 5.5 problem


 Hi Kevin, and Emma,
 I had the same problem, so I went back to 5.35.
 If you don't have it, let me know, I will send it to you.
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 From: kevin and Emma [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:13 PM
 Subject: winamp 5.5 problem


 hi all, i've recently upgraded from winamp 5.35 to 5.5 and now have a
 really irritating problem. before, with 5.35, i could put a cd in the
 drive, select play audio cd and it would play the whole cd without a
 break. however now, it seems to be checking for a valid entry online via
 one of the online databases after each track. if it can't find a match, 
 it
 stops playing and tells me so and asks if i want to submit a new entry. i
 don't mind if this for the first track, but it does it for each 
 individual
 track and it's bugging me. how can i stop winamp doing this? i want it to
 behave like before, where it would just carry on playing whether it had a
 match or not. i've looked through preferences and i can't find anything
 that would seem to be an obvious solution.
 kevin - (lord l)
 Civilization exists by geological consent, subject to change without
 notice-Will Durant
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Re: Winamp 5.35

[Larry N]

Hi there. On this list, I've seen quite a few negative comments concerning 
the new Winamp. I'm still on the fence as to whether to install it or not. I 
have no problem with learning a new way of doing something, but I'm 
wondering if the new version offers any significant advantages over 5.35.

Thanks for your thoughts on that score.

Larry



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Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: Winamp 5.35


 to turn off the check for updates, hit control p for preferences and when
 you get to general purpose tab over past internet connection until you get
 to something like check for updates at startup. Gently press the space bar
 and uncheck that thing.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 6:02 AM
 Subject: Re: Winamp 5.35


 Hi.  Wow, this really seems to be becoming a problem! I have an idea.
 The next time that dialogue pops up, try hitting the key combination
 alt n for no.  in that dialogue there's a yes button, a no button and
 a checkbox to determine wether or not it checks for updates.
 I don't know if that'll do any good because when it pops up for a lot
 of folks their speech seems to stop working.  But if you hit alt plus
 n the box will go away and then you can go into preferences and turn it
 off.
 Hope that helps.



 At 06:05 AM 10/26/2007, you wrote:
I have wWinamp 5.35 running and all seemed ok.  Today, I ran it and
it said update and I could do nothing with it at all.  I couldn't
tell whether it was updating or not and tabbing or cursoring gave no
information.  Using WE 5.5.
Thanks.

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Re: Accessible Sirius Receiver Suggestions Please?

[Larry N]

Hi Bob and thanks for the response. The truth is, I know next to nothing 
about sattelite receivers. I did phone XM, and was told they had no 
receivers with raised buttons. Probably not true, but I didn't appreciate 
the brush off.

Now then, after reading your post, I have 2 questions. First, what is the 
name or number of the sirius model that you're using? Second, when you say 
that I would need to purchase the boombox that this unit would clip in to, 
are you talking about a standard stereo system or something else related to 
sattelite technonogy. Please forgive these very basic questions, but my only 
sattelite listening experience is through XM on Winamp.

Thanks in advance.

Larry
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Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible Sirius Receiver Suggestions Please?


 Larry,
 I don't think that you are going to find a satellite receiver with speech
 output. The particular unit that I have is pretty straight forward, and 
 the
 buttons are raised and are in a straight row at the bottom of the unit. 
 They
 appear as little dots that are easy to feel. There are long bar type 
 buttons
 on the front panel off to the left that perform other functions, and on 
 the
 boombox itself there is a cluster of raised buttons; volume up, volume 
 down,
 off, and mute. When you change channels you hear a little beep that tells
 you that you are indeed changing channels. The Source has this particular
 unit on sale for I believe to be $129. This of course, does not include 
 the
 boombox that the unit clips into. This is a good unit for people with low
 vision, as the faunt on the display window can be changed. Ideally it 
 would
 be nice to have a unit that would tell you verbally what song is playing. 
 I
 am wondering if a speech device could be hooked up to the unit to read out
 the information on the display window. I think that it is dooable. This
 would be similar to the device that reads out the frequencies on ham radio
 equipment.
 - Original Message - 
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 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 10:10 PM
 Subject: Accessible Sirius Receiver Suggestions Please?


 Hi. Does anyone know of an accessible Sirius Canada home receiver?
 According
 to XM Canada Customer Care, they don't possess such an animal, so it's 
 off
 to the competition for me.

 Thanks,

 Larry



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Re: Accessible Sirius Receiver Suggestions Please?

[Larry N]

Hi Tim. I agree. Excessible is a term that I use primarily within the 
confines of this group. After all, how is a sighted person supposed to know 
what that means to me. And even within this group it's almost a cliche. That 
being said, excessible to me means raised buttons for changing channels and 
all. Speech would be nice, but I didn't think it existed. When I asked XM 
Canada customer care whether or not they had raised buttons on their 
receivers, the person who responded said that they had no such receivers and 
thanked me for my interest.. I had hoped and still hope to find out which 
service offered the most functionality for me as a blind guy and then take 
it from there, learning which service offered more of what I want to hear.

Larry
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From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 7:26 AM
Subject: Re: Accessible Sirius Receiver Suggestions Please?


 They may not know what you mean by accessible, just like I don't.  If
 you mean can you turn them on and change stations, I don't know of an
 XM receiver you can't do that to.  If you mean one that will speak
 everthing then you won't find one in either company.  If you mean one
 that will partially speak then XM has them.  They are usually some of
 the replay models.  I can't remember what they are, but I have seen
 one.  I'm still using my old PCR.
 On Oct 16, 2007, at 10:10 PM, Larry N wrote:

 Hi. Does anyone know of an accessible Sirius Canada home receiver?
 According
 to XM Canada Customer Care, they don't possess such an animal, so
 it's off
 to the competition for me.

 Thanks,

 Larry



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Re: Accessible Sirius Receiver Suggestions Please?

[Larry N]

Thanks very much Norma.

Larry
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From: Norma A. Boge-Conyers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible Sirius Receiver Suggestions Please?


 The Sirius Stiletto SL100 lists, among its features, audible channel
 names.  You can check out all other features and pricing at
 http://www.tss-radio.com/sirius-stiletto-live-portable-receiver-sl100pk1-p-3836.html?osCsid=eb9691b5b7c0747196c4415f0d4426b7
 Additionally, the September 2006 issue of Access World has an article
 worth checking out titled From the Birds: A Look at the
 Accessibility of Satellite RadioReceivers by Brad Hodges.  Surf on
 over to http://www.afb.org/afbpress/pub.asp?DocID=aw070504select=1#1
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Re: Winamp Question

[Larry N]

Thanks Chris. I'll do that then.

Larry
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Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: Winamp Question


 Hi Lary. I know this is a couple days late, but sometimes that does
 happen.  But the important thing is this.  The very best way to solve
 the problem is to try to contact the developers, send them some info
 about your error message and anything else that might be necessary.
 The best advice any of us here on any of these lists can give you is
 to just uninstall and re-install but as you said, it doesn't seem to
 help.  Most of the developers seem to hang out at the Winamp forums 
 located at
 http://forums.winamp.com
 Unfortunately they still appear to be using a captcha system which
 doesn't appear to have an audio alternate *make note to self to write
 to them about that*
 but if you ask them via e-mail and explain your reasons for wanting
 to sign up to report a problem, you will hopefully get some
 help.  But that really is the best way to report a major bug like
 that, if it had to do with screenreaders we could approach the
 vendors and ask for help but since this seems like it's a Winamp only
 thing, then the forums are probably your best way to go.
 Hope that helps.





 At 01:44 PM 10/9/2007, you wrote:
Hi. As a couple of folks in this group have suggested, I'm looking at
Windows Media Player as a possibility for taking over many tasks that I 
now
assign to Winamp. But for the moment, my question is this. In Winamp 5.35 
I
frequently encounter a runtime error. Reinstalling hasn't seemed to help 
and
no other player exhibits this issue. Has anyone else experienced this
problem?

Larry



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Re: Winamp Question

[Larry N]

Thanks Albert and everyone else for your suggestions.

Larry
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From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 12:39 AM
Subject: RE: Winamp Question


 With Winamp, people believe they've uninstalled it when they haven't.  it
 leaves folders with plug-ins and other data in them.  Open program files 
 and
 delete anything referring to winamp you find there.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad
 Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 5:40 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Winamp Question

 Hi Lary. I know this is a couple days late, but sometimes that does 
 happen.
 But the important thing is this.  The very best way to solve the problem 
 is
 to try to contact the developers, send them some info about your error
 message and anything else that might be necessary.
 The best advice any of us here on any of these lists can give you is to 
 just
 uninstall and re-install but as you said, it doesn't seem to help.  Most 
 of
 the developers seem to hang out at the Winamp forums located at
 http://forums.winamp.com Unfortunately they still appear to be using a
 captcha system which doesn't appear to have an audio alternate *make note 
 to
 self to write to them about that* but if you ask them via e-mail and 
 explain
 your reasons for wanting to sign up to report a problem, you will 
 hopefully
 get some help.  But that really is the best way to report a major bug like
 that, if it had to do with screenreaders we could approach the vendors and
 ask for help but since this seems like it's a Winamp only thing, then the
 forums are probably your best way to go.
 Hope that helps.





 At 01:44 PM 10/9/2007, you wrote:
Hi. As a couple of folks in this group have suggested, I'm looking at
Windows Media Player as a possibility for taking over many tasks that I
now assign to Winamp. But for the moment, my question is this. In
Winamp 5.35 I frequently encounter a runtime error. Reinstalling hasn't
seemed to help and no other player exhibits this issue. Has anyone else
experienced this problem?

Larry



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Re: How to best or easiest way to Record Audio Cassettes to the PC?

[Larry N]

I agree. Cassette to Cd is quite Viable. I've transferred many of my own and 
for customers with good results. If the cassette is in good shape, there's 
no reason why it can't be transferred to a good CD. I would especially 
recommend such a transfer if the cassette is one that you like to listen to 
frequently.

Larry
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Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 12:30 AM
Subject: RE: How to best or easiest way to Record Audio Cassettes to the PC?


 Well, there are still lots of books on cassettes still that I want in a
 digital format.  Also, I have run into situations where people want old
 cassettes made into cd format.


 Ted Phillips


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 On Behalf Of Bob Seed
 Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 6:12 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: How to best or easiest way to Record Audio Cassettes to the 
 PC?

 As cassettes are on the way out why would you want to install such a 
 device
 in your computer? Wouldn't an external device suffice?
 - Original Message -
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 Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 7:02 PM
 Subject: RE: How to best or easiest way to Record Audio Cassettes to the 
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 Yeah, looks nice, but from what I have been able to figure out so far,
 it is expensive.


 Ted Phillips


 -Original Message-
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 On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
 Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 10:22 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: How to best or easiest way to Record Audio Cassettes to the
 PC?

 Hello list members,
 I don't know very much about this device yet, but there is a cassette 
 tape
 deck that goes right in to the case of your PC or MACK.
 It allows you to record your cassettes right to your hard drive.
 And if you want to, you can burn the files to CD right from the cassette
 deck.
 I am trying to locate a store that I can buy one of these just to try it
 out
 just to see how well it works.
  John Price.
 - Original Message -
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 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 3:48 AM
 Subject: Re: How to best or easiest way to Record Audio Cassettes to the
 PC?


 quick question. Why do you have to have a receiver? Can't you just
 plug your deck into the pc? I'm looking into doing this myself and I'm
 scared of the process.
 bb



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Re: Winamp vs WMP

[Larry N]

It seems to me that there's no reason in the world not to use both Winamp 
and WMP. I've had both onboard for years and what I do is to use the 
strengths of each player.

Larry
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From: Richard Claypool [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: Winamp vs WMP


 another feature that winamp has is that one can add in any plugin that one
 wants within reason.  So you can have more filetypes supported like shn 
 ogg
 flac etc etc etc.
 msn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 8:45 AM
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 One feature that Winamp has that WMP does not (that I cannot find if it
 does), is the ability of showing the 3 segments of total tiem, time
 played,
 and time left, of a playing file.
 Does WMP have this?
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Re: How to best or easiest way to Record Audio Cassettes to the PC?

[Larry N]

Yes, you can plug the cassette deck directly into your computer. The reason 
that I prefer a receiver is that it allows me to patch in multiple sources, 
such as a turntable, another deck or even a tuner. I also like using a mixer 
as it lets me tweek the audio and to some degree the volume, directly from 
the mixer before I start recording.
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Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 3:48 AM
Subject: Re: How to best or easiest way to Record Audio Cassettes to the PC?


 quick question. Why do you have to have a receiver? Can't you just plug 
 your
 deck into the pc? I'm looking into doing this myself and I'm scared of the
 process.
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Re: How to best or easiest way to Record Audio Cassettes to the PC?

[Larry N]

Excessive volume from your recording source can also fry your sound card. 
But if you start with the volume turned low and adjust it upward in small 
increments, you should be ok.

Larry

- Original Message - 
From: Walter Ramage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 7:04 AM
Subject: RE: How to best or easiest way to Record Audio Cassettes to the PC?


 Yes you can.  I have recorded stuff from my mini disc recorder onto the 
 hard
 drive.  I simply plugged the cable from the headphone socket on the mini
 disc and the other end into the line socket on the PC.However, if you 
 do
 this and your source has a headphone volume control, make sure it isn't
 turned up too high otherwise you will find the recording is distorted.
 Walter

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 Sent: 09 October 2007 08:48
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: How to best or easiest way to Record Audio Cassettes to the
 PC?


 quick question. Why do you have to have a receiver? Can't you just plug 
 your
 deck into the pc? I'm looking into doing this myself and I'm scared of the
 process.
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Re: How to best or easiest way to Record Audio Cassettes to the PC?

[Larry N]

That would be a good thing to check when setting up any recording system, 
yes. I've never run into the problem with any of my setups,, but I can see 
how it could  very easily be a factor.

In this case, my understanding of Gail's original question is that she is 
transferring cassettes only. In that case, she probably should just patch 
the cassette deck directly into her PC.No reason to add unnecessary 
elements.

Larry
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From: Gary G Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: How to best or easiest way to Record Audio Cassettes to the PC?


 Any time you can eliminate extra amplifiers in the path the better off you 
 will
 be. the less devices that generate noise such as hiss or hum, the better 
 the
 recordings will be.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Walter Ramage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 7:04 AM
 Subject: RE: How to best or easiest way to Record Audio Cassettes to the 
 PC?


 Yes you can.  I have recorded stuff from my mini disc recorder onto the 
 hard
 drive.  I simply plugged the cable from the headphone socket on the mini
 disc and the other end into the line socket on the PC.However, if you 
 do
 this and your source has a headphone volume control, make sure it isn't
 turned up too high otherwise you will find the recording is distorted.
 Walter

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brett Boyer
 Sent: 09 October 2007 08:48
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: How to best or easiest way to Record Audio Cassettes to the
 PC?


 quick question. Why do you have to have a receiver? Can't you just plug 
 your
 deck into the pc? I'm looking into doing this myself and I'm scared of 
 the
 process.
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Winamp Question

[Larry N]

Hi. As a couple of folks in this group have suggested, I'm looking at 
Windows Media Player as a possibility for taking over many tasks that I now 
assign to Winamp. But for the moment, my question is this. In Winamp 5.35 I 
frequently encounter a runtime error. Reinstalling hasn't seemed to help and 
no other player exhibits this issue. Has anyone else experienced this 
problem?

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Re: How to best or easiest way to Record Audio Cassettes to the PC?

[Larry N]

Hi Gail and welcome to the group. You will first need to connect a receiver 
to your computer and then connect your cassette deck to your receiver. If 
you need help in doing that, there are plenty of people here who can guide 
you through it. As for transferring your cassettes to the computer and 
editing them, I agree with Walter. GoldWave is your best and most economical 
choice. It also boasts excellent documentation. There are lots of GoldWave 
users on this list who can help you with any problems. Finally, for burning, 
Easy CD-DA Extractor would be worth considering. You could download the 
fully functional trial version and see what you think. Again, lots of users 
of that program on this list. You might also want to think about downloading 
Express Burn. It's also a good CD burner and works very well with Jaws.

There are more expensive sound editors and burners out there, but for cost 
and ease of use, those would be my suggestions.

That should get you started with some things to try out. -

Hope this helps.

Larry

Original Message - From: Gail[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 3:03 PM
Subject: How to best or easiest way to Record Audio Cassettes to the PC?


 Hi,

 I am new to this forum and it was highly recommended by a member. I am 
 blind
 and use Jaws, a screen reader on my PC.  My question is how to best record
 all of my audio cassettes onto my PC.  I would then like to make CD's of 
 my
 recordings.  I would appreciate any suggestions, and especially 
 suggestions
 on the easiest way to do this.
 Thank you,
 Gail

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Re: another question about nhl radio online

[Larry N]

Hi Scott. I went to the page that you indicated and clicked on the link 
called NHL Game Radio. IIf you arrow down past their standard links you will 
find a list of games along with listen links, just as in past seasons.

Hope this helps.

Larry
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Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 8:01 PM
Subject: another question about nhl radio online


 Hi again,

 Are any of you other nhl hockey fans out there having trouble accessing 
 the
 audio streams online? I used to be able to use the radio page on the 
 nhl.com
 site:

 http://www.nhl.com/radio/index.html

 However, over the past two days, whenever I access the above link, the 
 page
 indicates that there are no games available for listening. On both Friday
 and Saturday, there have been a number of games. On Friday, I was able to
 access one team website, that of the Anaheim Ducks, to hear there match, 
 but
 today I am unable to hear any games either through the nhl radio page or 
 any
 of the team sites.

 If anyone's got some insight into this problem, I'd love to hear it, since 
 I
 can't hear anything else right now.

 Scott




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Re: Nero 8?

[Larry N]

Thanks Gary.

Larry
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Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 9:53 PM
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I think that Premier CD/DVD Creator is only $59.00!
 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 1:01 PM
 Subject: Re: Nero 8?


I agree wholeheartedly. I would really appreciate knowing what makes Nero
 worth the price. I'm not saying it's a poor program or anything of the
 sort,
 just that it isn't worth the $79. If I'm wrong, I'd love for someone to
 show
 me how and where.

 Larry


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 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 10:23 AM
 Subject: RE: Nero 8?


I wonder why anyone would pay $79 for a program that won't rip tracks?  I
 don't care what else it does, it should do that.

 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 2:30 AM
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 Subject: Re: Nero 8?

 Um, thanks!
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 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 8:45 PM
 Subject: Re: Nero 8?


 Uh, wrong.  In the early versions of Nero 7 there were problems,but
 that was fixed a long time ago.
 On Sep 29, 2007, at 1:29 PM, Gary Wood wrote:

 Hi Albert!  I heard that starting with Nero 7, the Nero program
 wasn't as
 accessible, but not sure about Nero 8.
 - Original Message -
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 Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 6:55 PM
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 Nero is promoting their release of version 8 with a special offer
 good
 until
 the end of this month.  Has anyone tried it and is it accessible?

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Re: Nero 8?

[Larry N]

I agree wholeheartedly. I would really appreciate knowing what makes Nero 
worth the price. I'm not saying it's a poor program or anything of the sort, 
just that it isn't worth the $79. If I'm wrong, I'd love for someone to show 
me how and where.

Larry


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Subject: RE: Nero 8?


I wonder why anyone would pay $79 for a program that won't rip tracks?  I
 don't care what else it does, it should do that.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Gary Wood
 Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 2:30 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Nero 8?

 Um, thanks!
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 From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 8:45 PM
 Subject: Re: Nero 8?


 Uh, wrong.  In the early versions of Nero 7 there were problems,but
 that was fixed a long time ago.
 On Sep 29, 2007, at 1:29 PM, Gary Wood wrote:

 Hi Albert!  I heard that starting with Nero 7, the Nero program
 wasn't as
 accessible, but not sure about Nero 8.
 - Original Message -
 From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 6:55 PM
 Subject: Nero 8?


 Nero is promoting their release of version 8 with a special offer
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 until
 the end of this month.  Has anyone tried it and is it accessible?

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Re: Easy CD DA Extractor, my ipinion for what its worth

[Larry N]

Michael, or anyone else who is experienced with Easy CD DA and cares to take 
a shot at my questions.

1. Easy CD claims to do text writing. How does one go about that in this 
program.

2. Let's say that I have an album where I want varying pause lengths between 
tracks. Maybe between tracks 1 and 2, I want the customary 2 seconds. But 
let's say that between tracks 4 and 5, I want no pause at all, and between 7 
and 8 I want 1 second. Can I accomplish that with Easy CD DA?

Thanks for any answers you might offer. I want to continue upgrading with 
technology, but Nero's price tag has me looking around for possible 
alternatives.

Larry
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor, my ipinion for what its worth


 Hi Dane and all,
 I have used easy cd da extractor for years.  Yes, it has come a long
 way.  I am not sure about the drive offset, but I do know you can
 configure the encoding formats.  At the bottom left of the window there
 is a configure button, which when clicked will take you to another
 window where you can choose the bit rate  then on the same window, there
 is a edit button which will allow costumazation.  i use highest quality
 and auto to choose the mode.  there are alot of other settings also
 available on the edit page.  Hope this helps some.

 Mike,
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 Dane Trethowan wrote:
 Hi folks!
 Ok, I registered Easy CD DA Extractor today and I've been playing
 with it for much of the day so thought it time I offered some
 comparisons with the ripping software I've been using which has been
 EAC (Exact Audio Copy) and Max (on the Mac and my LINUX system).
 First and foremost, there is no doubt whatever that Easy CD DA
 Extractor has come one hell of a long and mighty way since I last
 tried it some years ago however it still falls short in several areas
 if accuracy in ripping from CD'S is what you're after and considering
 that Exact Audio Copy and Max are freeware applications and Easy CD
 DA Extractor isn't then this in my view is some cause for concern.
 Where the accuracy shortfall occurs is in the fact (it seems) that
 you cannot set the read and write offsets for your drive, that's very
 important for CD Ripping and CD burning, now please someone correct
 me if I'm wrong, I'd in fact relish being wrong because I cannot
 believe that such a good product as Easy CD DA Extractor wouldn't
 have this feature. So with that shortcoming out of the way I looked
 at the various file formats on offer for output.
 Yep, no doubt again, quite a range but unless I'm not looking
 thoroughly enough the formats it seems to me aren't customisable. For
 example let's take MP3 layer 3, all you get when selecting the
 options are 128K, 256K, 9 levels of VBR etc and that's it. Again,
 unless I'm missing something then this is a very poor show. So you
 pick 128K for example, what quality mode is used here for the
 encoder? Is it stereo, mono or joint stereo the encoder will be
 encoding in? What sample rate is going to be used? All this
 information seems to be determined for you and (whilst most will be
 content to leave things at that) I'm not because I find optimizing
 your MP3 encoder for various situations can save you a whole heap of
 space and a whole heap of trouble whilst not compremising on good
 audio quality. Further to this when you select one of the VBR modes
 offered, which VBR method will the encoder use, the old or the
 new method? The new method is indeed faster but the old method
 (whilst slower) is of a far better quality and there are other VBR
 settings which should be available which don't seem to be, 2 quality
 settings for example whereas Easy CD DA Extractor only allows the
 access to one.
 Now to the Format Conversion section, again very nicely laid out
 but one annoyance here and perhaps this will be fixed in later
 versions. One would think for instance that if you had say a Wave and
 Cue pair of files (as generated by many rippers including EAC, Max
 Ripper and even Easy CD DA Extractor itself), you should therefore be
 able to open the cue file which would therefore in tern open the
 associated Wave file and you should be able to convert the content to
 MP3 tracks or whatever, not so it seems which is a crying shame.
 So there you have it, some of my thoughts on Easy CD DA Extractor but
 its still worth supporting at $49.00.


 

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Re: Burning Audible Books to CD

[Larry N]

Hi, actually it's my understanding that they don't have a trial version 
available as yet. If you want to purchase the program at the reduced price, 
you would be doing so in advance of release, and with no demo to try before 
you buy. That's why I would hesitate. There's no guarantee that I would be 
able to use the program once purchased. Probably, but not definitely. I've 
been burned often enough to hesitate, ya know?

Larry
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From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 3:46 AM
Subject: RE: Burning Audible Books to CD


I think you'd be eligible for their promotional offer but you'd have to 
make
 the decision by the end of today and I ha ven't found a trial version
 anywhere.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Larry N
 Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 2:43 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Burning Audible Books to CD

 I did speak to Audible's tech support people. They claim that the only way
 to burn an audible  book is with Nero. I did look at Nero 7, but aside 
 from
 its ability to burn Audible books, I don't see what it can do for me that 
 6
 can't. I burn CDs only, and if 7 produces a superior CD, I can't see how. 
 I
 also can't see purchasing 7 when 8 is just around the corner. Guess we'll
 see what it has to offer wwhen they trot it out.

 Larry


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 Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 9:08 AM
 Subject: RE: Burning Audible Books to CD


I used to burn mine with Roxio's product.  You get a plug in choice.

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 On Behalf Of Larry N
 Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 8:04 AM
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 Subject: Burning Audible Books to CD

 According to someone I talked to at Audible, Nero 7 is the only program
 that
 can be used to burn Audible books to CD, something that is apparently
 legal
 with many of their books. My problem? I really like Nero 6 and several
 other
 burning programs a lot better than I like Nero 7. So, my question, has
 anyone had any success burning Audible books to CD when using any other
 program?

 Larry



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Re: Audiotapes onto CDs

[Larry N]

I would have to respectfully disagree with the oppinion that one can't edit 
with DC6. . I use DC6 for editing on a daily
basis. Perhaps it could be said that certain aspects of DC6 are 
innaccessible or less accessible than other editors, but I honestly have not 
run into anything except for a bit of a learning curve for certain editing 
issues. The
menus are quite accessible, and all filters can be tried without fear, 
because all of them have a clearly spoken preview mode that lets you listen 
to the change in question while changing nothing in the actual file until 
you apply the alteration.

Many on this list prefer Sound Forge or Goldwave, both excellent choices 
which I
also use daily. I'm only offering an oppinion that DC6 is also a viable 
consideration for the mix

Speaking as someone who uses several different editors professionally, I 
would advise that anyone intrested might be best served by trying demos of 
all the major editors. Then choose the one that fits your needs, comfort 
level and budget. That's why demos are out there. In the end, what works for 
you is the best choice.

Peace,

Larry



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Re: Nero 8?

[Larry N]

I spoke to GW Micro, and was told that they hadn't yet worked with Nero 8. 
Not sure if that's the case universally.

Larry
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Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: Nero 8?


 Hi Albert!  I heard that starting with Nero 7, the Nero program wasn't as
 accessible, but not sure about Nero 8.
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 Subject: Nero 8?


 Nero is promoting their release of version 8 with a special offer good
 until
 the end of this month.  Has anyone tried it and is it accessible?

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Re: Burning Audible Books to CD

[Larry N]

I did speak to Audible's tech support people. They claim that the only way 
to burn an audible  book is with Nero. I did look at Nero 7, but aside from 
its ability to burn Audible books, I don't see what it can do for me that 6 
can't. I burn CDs only, and if 7 produces a superior CD, I can't see how. I 
also can't see purchasing 7 when 8 is just around the corner. Guess we'll 
see what it has to offer wwhen they trot it out.

Larry


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Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 9:08 AM
Subject: RE: Burning Audible Books to CD


I used to burn mine with Roxio's product.  You get a plug in choice.

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 On Behalf Of Larry N
 Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 8:04 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Burning Audible Books to CD

 According to someone I talked to at Audible, Nero 7 is the only program 
 that
 can be used to burn Audible books to CD, something that is apparently 
 legal
 with many of their books. My problem? I really like Nero 6 and several 
 other
 burning programs a lot better than I like Nero 7. So, my question, has
 anyone had any success burning Audible books to CD when using any other
 program?

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Re: Burning Audible Books to CD

[Larry N]

I was afraid of that, but had to make sure. I'm not a fan of that sort of 
restriction, but it is what it is. Thanks Tim.

Larry

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Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: Burning Audible Books to CD


 Can't do that any more.  Either you burn with Nero or you don't burn
 at all.
 On Sep 27, 2007, at 9:08 AM, albert griffith wrote:

 I used to burn mine with Roxio's product.  You get a plug in choice.

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 On Behalf Of Larry N
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 Subject: Burning Audible Books to CD

 According to someone I talked to at Audible, Nero 7 is the only
 program that
 can be used to burn Audible books to CD, something that is
 apparently legal
 with many of their books. My problem? I really like Nero 6 and
 several other
 burning programs a lot better than I like Nero 7. So, my question, has
 anyone had any success burning Audible books to CD when using any
 other
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Re: Nero 7 Question

[Larry N]

That works in Nero 7 as well? Thanks, I had forgotten that one.

Larry
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From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 5:37 AM
Subject: Re: Nero 7 Question


 Hi,

 Once you have selected your files, pressing control-1 will
 move them to the layout.

 Rusty

Hi larry,

I don't have nero 7 so I really can't be sure that this will work for you.
however, In nero ultra 6 the nero explorer worked almost like the windows
explorer. From the tree view you could browse to the folder that had your
music in it and from the corresponding list of tracks you can simply 
select
the one's that you want to burn and copy them to the clipboard.  then, 
press
the tab key to move the focus to the compilation window and paste them in.
Then after you put the tracks in the compilation window you could burn 
them.
Try that experiment and let me know what happens since I'm drawing at 
straws
here.

Tony
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Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: Nero 7 Question


Hi Larry,
Nero7 is not has accessible as Nero6.
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Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 10:36 AM
Subject: Nero 7 Question


  No answer on my last Nero question, so let's try it another way. Since 
  I
  can't figure out how to get Nero to build CDs through Windows Explorer,
  I've
  dedicated a folder where I dump songs for CD burning for use with 
  Nero's
  file browser. The interesting thing in Nero is that while I can't 
  scroll
  down through the  various folders that contain music, I can scroll 
  through
  each individual folder and read all info concerning each song. So I'm
  wondering if maybe I'm doing something wrong. I have both Window-Eyes 
  and
  Jaws, so I can work around this problem with either screen reader. Any
  suggestions? Or is Nero just a bit less accessible than it was with
  version
  six?
 
  Thanks,
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Re: Audiotapes onto CDs

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Samuel, if you don't mind spending a bit more, DC6 offers 4 levels of 
dedicated hiss removal and always lets you preview the results before you 
save them. Even after you save your results, you still have the original 
file and can go back to it if you change your mind. You can also create your 
own hiss removal  filters within the program.

If memory serves, the price of DC 6 lives somewhere in the middle between 
the cost of GoldWave and the full version of Sound Forge.

HTH

Larry
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From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: Audiotapes onto CDs


 Don't know what's current.
 Try Google.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Samuel Wilkins
  To: PC Audio Discussion List
  Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 11:32 AM
  Subject: Re: Audiotapes onto CDs


  What types of noise reduction systems are they, where can I get them and 
 how
  much do they cost?
  Samuel Wilkins
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  From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 9:52 PM
  Subject: Re: Audiotapes onto CDs


   You will need a good noise reduction system.  I think I remember 
 hearing
   that GW will let you use other systems besides its own.  I'd look for 
 one
   of those.
  
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From: Samuel Wilkins
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 12:02 PM
Subject: Audiotapes onto CDs
  
  
Hello, I would like to put some audiotapes onto CD. The only thing I
   would like to know is that how can I reduce the hiss on goldwave 
 without
   having artefacts. If anyone has any suggestions, they would be welcome.
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Re: Nero 7 Question

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Tony, the interesting... oK frustrating thing about Nero 7 is that it will 
not let you out of its little browser when you want to choose an alternative 
method of finding files. For instance, let's say you have files that you 
want to gather together from several folders. With Nero 6, you could do that 
easily. What I've found with 7, is that I had to create an audio  folder and 
ask my wife to set Nero to land in that folder when choosing audio. That 
should work, as it has been my experience that Nero 7 doesn't want to 
migrate from folder to folder using the keyboard. On the plus side, it will 
let you work with files within the folder as before.

I don't think I'll be buying Nero 8 unless it's a lot more excessible than 
7.

Larry
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Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: Nero 7 Question


 Hey Rusty,

 Yeah, that's right!  Forgot about that one grins.  Thanks.

 Tony
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 From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 5:37 AM
 Subject: Re: Nero 7 Question


 Hi,

 Once you have selected your files, pressing control-1 will
 move them to the layout.

 Rusty

Hi larry,

I don't have nero 7 so I really can't be sure that this will work for you.
however, In nero ultra 6 the nero explorer worked almost like the windows
explorer. From the tree view you could browse to the folder that had your
music in it and from the corresponding list of tracks you can simply 
select
the one's that you want to burn and copy them to the clipboard.  then,
press
the tab key to move the focus to the compilation window and paste them in.
Then after you put the tracks in the compilation window you could burn
them.
Try that experiment and let me know what happens since I'm drawing at
straws
here.

Tony
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From: Arthur Barney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: Nero 7 Question


Hi Larry,
Nero7 is not has accessible as Nero6.
- Original Message -
From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 10:36 AM
Subject: Nero 7 Question


  No answer on my last Nero question, so let's try it another way. Since 
  I
  can't figure out how to get Nero to build CDs through Windows Explorer,
  I've
  dedicated a folder where I dump songs for CD burning for use with 
  Nero's
  file browser. The interesting thing in Nero is that while I can't 
  scroll
  down through the  various folders that contain music, I can scroll
  through
  each individual folder and read all info concerning each song. So I'm
  wondering if maybe I'm doing something wrong. I have both Window-Eyes
  and
  Jaws, so I can work around this problem with either screen reader. Any
  suggestions? Or is Nero just a bit less accessible than it was with
  version
  six?
 
  Thanks,
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Burning Audible Books to CD

[Larry N]

According to someone I talked to at Audible, Nero 7 is the only program that 
can be used to burn Audible books to CD, something that is apparently legal 
with many of their books. My problem? I really like Nero 6 and several other 
burning programs a lot better than I like Nero 7. So, my question, has 
anyone had any success burning Audible books to CD when using any other 
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Re: Audiotapes onto CDs

[Larry N]

Hi Bill. I have no problem using DC 6 with the keyboard. The menus and all 
functions speak very well. You could download DC6 and try it before you by 
it. Unless they've changed the demo since I used it, you can try any 
function you like. You just can't save anything.

HTH

Larry
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From: Bill Scherer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: Audiotapes onto CDs


 How blind Friendly are the Tracer products?
 Are there hotkeys, or will the mouse keys let you do most things, or are 
 you stuck withpresets?
 Bill
 On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 08:44:07 -0400, Larry N wrote:

Samuel, if you don't mind spending a bit more, DC6 offers 4 levels of
dedicated hiss removal and always lets you preview the results before you
save them. Even after you save your results, you still have the original
file and can go back to it if you change your mind. You can also create 
your
own hiss removal  filters within the program.

If memory serves, the price of DC 6 lives somewhere in the middle between
the cost of GoldWave and the full version of Sound Forge.

HTH

Larry
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From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: Audiotapes onto CDs


 Don't know what's current.
 Try Google.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Samuel Wilkins
  To: PC Audio Discussion List
  Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 11:32 AM
  Subject: Re: Audiotapes onto CDs


  What types of noise reduction systems are they, where can I get them 
 and
 how
  much do they cost?
  Samuel Wilkins
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  Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 9:52 PM
  Subject: Re: Audiotapes onto CDs


   You will need a good noise reduction system.  I think I remember
 hearing
   that GW will let you use other systems besides its own.  I'd look for
 one
   of those.
  
- Original Message - 
From: Samuel Wilkins
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 12:02 PM
Subject: Audiotapes onto CDs
  
  
Hello, I would like to put some audiotapes onto CD. The only thing I
   would like to know is that how can I reduce the hiss on goldwave
 without
   having artefacts. If anyone has any suggestions, they would be 
 welcome.
Samuel Wilkins
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Re: Other accessible audio books

[Larry N]

How is their selection compared to Audible's? 

Larry 
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Subject: Other accessible audio books


 Emusic.com has just started offering audio books in the .mp3 format.
 They pretty much duplicate some of the Audible.com offerings, but they
 are not tied to any proprietary scheme.  They run around $10 per book
 with a few being $20.  You purchase a monthly subscription.
 
 In this case, you should be able to use any burning program that works
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Nero 7 Question

[Larry N]

No answer on my last Nero question, so let's try it another way. Since I 
can't figure out how to get Nero to build CDs through Windows Explorer, I've 
dedicated a folder where I dump songs for CD burning for use with Nero's 
file browser. The interesting thing in Nero is that while I can't scroll 
down through the  various folders that contain music, I can scroll through 
each individual folder and read all info concerning each song. So I'm 
wondering if maybe I'm doing something wrong. I have both Window-Eyes and 
Jaws, so I can work around this problem with either screen reader. Any 
suggestions? Or is Nero just a bit less accessible than it was with version 
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Re: Nero 7 Question

[Larry N]

Thanks much for the Nero info.

Larry 
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Subject: Re: Nero 7 Question


 Well, I'm not at my Windows machine right now or I'd tell you exactly  
 how to find the burner component, but it's something like this.  Hit  
 your windows key.  Hit p until you get to the programs menu. If you  
 land on the inside of the nenu hit n until you hear Nero, otherwise  
 if you land on program menu hit right arror and then the n key until  
 you hear nero.  Inside the nero menu are submenus with names like  
 Audio, Data and sutch.  Go in to audio or data and look for Nero  
 Burning ROM.
 On Sep 20, 2007, at 2:10 PM, Larry N wrote:
 
 I just downloaded Nero 7, through an Audible.com promotion which
 supposedly allows one to burn Audible books to CD while also  
 letting you
 burn standard CDs as usual. My first problem is that when faced  
 with the
 entire Nero Suite, I can't even find the CD burning element of the  
 program.
 First, how do I find the CD burning element of the program? Second,  
 is it
 anywhere near as accessible as Nero 6, or should I downgrade  
 instead of
 paying for an upgrade?

 Larry



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Re: Goldwave and Windows Media Center

[Larry N]

Clifford, it has been my experience that GoldWave works as well on Windows 
Media Center operating systems as it does on any other operating system. I 
too have had problems with certain software packages that clash with Media 
Center for reasons that I can neither understand nor solve,  but GoldWave is 
not among the problem apps.

Larry

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Subject: Goldwave and Windows Media Center


 I'm interested in given Goldwave a try on a new Windows XP Media Center
 computer.  I ran into major trouble when I tried to load a copy of Roxio
 Easy CD Creater and I'm hoping to avoid the same kind of problems.  Does
 anyone have experience working with the combination of Goldwave and
 Windows XP Media Center?

 Your reassurance, will be gratefully accepted.

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Nero 7 Question

[Larry N]

I just downloaded Nero 7, through an Audible.com promotion which 
supposedly allows one to burn Audible books to CD while also letting you 
burn standard CDs as usual. My first problem is that when faced with the 
entire Nero Suite, I can't even find the CD burning element of the program. 
First, how do I find the CD burning element of the program? Second, is it 
anywhere near as accessible as Nero 6, or should I downgrade instead of 
paying for an upgrade?

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Easy CD DA Extractor Questions

[Larry N]

Hi. First, can I create a CD where some tracks have the standard 2 second 
pause before the next track starts playing, while other tracks have a 0 or 1 
second pause? If so, how do I do that? Second, how is text writing done in 
Easy CD DA Extractor?

Thanks in advance.

Larry
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Ultra weird GoldWave problem

[Larry N]

I've been using GoldWave for a long while and am now using version 5.19. 
This is happening on 2 computers, so it's either me or GoldWave, not the 
hardware.

In my work, one of the things I do is to divide vinyl albums into separate 
tracks after transferring them to the computer. Once divided, I trim the 
silence off the beginning and then go to the end and trim silence from that 
end of the file. If the song is say... 3 minutes long, I now have a 3 minute 
file. Quite naturally, I then hit save. Once doing that, in about a quarter 
of my files, I then have a file that is 59 seconds long. Not 58, not a 
minute, but almost always 59 seconds. Any Goldwave experts care to take a 
shot at that one?

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Splitting tracks in Sound ForgeRe: new rechargeable ready to go:

[Larry N]

I believe this is probably a simple issue, but I'm having trouble finding 
the solution in Sound Forge eight's PDF manual.

I want to divide trakds after transferring them from a vinyl album to the 
computer. Up to now, I've performed the task in GoldWave, which, as 
mentioned in another post, hasn't been working for me lately. Can someone 
tell me how to do this in Sound Forge 8 using Window-Eyes?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Ultra weird GoldWave problem

[Larry N]

Nope, my various versions have been licensed since 2003. 

Larry
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Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 8:51 AM
Subject: RE: Ultra weird GoldWave problem


 You're not using a demo version, are you?
 
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry N
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 7:34 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Ultra weird GoldWave problem
 
 I've been using GoldWave for a long while and am now 
 using version 5.19. 
 This is happening on 2 computers, so it's either me or 
 GoldWave, not the hardware.
 
 In my work, one of the things I do is to divide vinyl albums 
 into separate tracks after transferring them to the computer. 
 Once divided, I trim the silence off the beginning and then 
 go to the end and trim silence from that end of the file. If 
 the song is say... 3 minutes long, I now have a 3 minute 
 file. Quite naturally, I then hit save. Once doing that, in 
 about a quarter of my files, I then have a file that is 59 
 seconds long. Not 58, not a minute, but almost always 59 
 seconds. Any Goldwave experts care to take a shot at that one?
 
 Larry 
 
 
 
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Re: Splitting tracks in Sound Forge

[Larry N]

Thanks for the instructions on how to split files in Sound Forge. I know the 
program does a great deal. My problem has been that of finding what I need 
when performing different tasks. Thanks again.

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Re: Sound Forge -- Finding Gaps in Audio

[Larry N]

How do you find gaps in audio using GoldWave?

Larry
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From: Curtis Delzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 2:49 AM
Subject: Re: Sound Forge -- Finding Gaps in Audio


 That is one thing which GoldWave does, a main reason I bought it though a
 Sound Forge 9 owner. I wonder that also since could use it if it exists
 rather than doing it in GW.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Matthew2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 11:55 PM
 Subject: Sound Forge -- Finding Gaps in Audio


 Hi all,

 Does anyone know if its possible to use sound forge to find gaps in 
 audio?
 That is, I have many 1 hour long audio files and don't know if there are
 any
 gaps in them as I recorded these streams off of the internet. Rather than
 listening to the files in their entirety, I would like to quickly find my
 way to any part of the file that has a piece of silence caused by an 
 audio
 gap. If this feature does in fact exist within Sound Forge, please let me
 know what its called and I'll research it from there.

 big thanks,

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Audible.com Question

[Larry N]

Hi there. I haven't used audible.com before, but now that I've been 
given a gift certificate, I'll be trying them out. The webvsite suggests 
reading their audio books with either the audible.com player or Itunes. My 
question for those who have used this service is, what player would you 
suggest that I use? Also, is there anything else that I should know 
regarding accessibility?

Thanks in advance. Your thoughts are much appreciated.

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Re: Audio on Windows Vista

[Larry N]

Hi Edwin. As far as I know, Sound Forge 8.0 cannot be installed on Vista. 
You would have to upgrade to Sound Forge 9.0 to use the program on Vista.

One of my Vista concerns is that it will not run some programs that were 
designed for XP. So, yes you do indeed have advantages with new Vista audio 
alternatives, but you may also find that a necessary element of the upgrade 
is to upgrade software as well. And in some cases, there could be software 
packages that the developer has abandoned.

While these audio aspects are no reason to reject Vista, it seems to me that 
they must be considered when deciding whether or not to upgrade to Vista.

Just my two cents for whatever it's worth.

Larry
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From: Edwin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 7:48 PM
Subject: Audio on Windows Vista


 Hi All,

 I recently tried playing with Windows Vista and thought of asking some 
 audio
 related questions as I am still in the midst of exploring. I got to say
 that, if vista matures a little further as time progresses, its worthwhile
 the upgrade just for the audio part. 1 very big bonus is that we could now
 control indivisual volume controls through the mixer. For example, if we 
 are
 listening to real player streams, on xp systems, when u tune down the
 volume, it utilise  the wav volume and this would affect our screen 
 readers
 too. However, on vista, u could indivisually set the current active
 application's volume level. In this case, u could have different levels 
 for
 your screen reader and real player. This is especially benificial for jaws
 as eloquence of jaws on xp system uses the main level of the volume 
 control
 of your soundcard. But, I am just a bit puzzled. If such a powerful volume
 mixer exists in vista, why there isn't a volume control icon on the 
 startup
 group like in xp? I know 1 could just go to control panel and go in to the
 sounds item to select our sources and go in to the properties page to set
 them, however, i find slightly of a hassel to do that. Of-course I could
 just create a shortcut of the sndvol32.exe at the start menu. Any intake
 from listers on this?

 Next, though not completely audio related, but someword related. I tried
 installing Sound Forge 8.0D in vista. I got a msg that SF needs .frame
 network 1.1. I tried installing but got some error message and my .dot 
 frame
 network couldn't be installed. Does listers know why is this so and is 
 there
 a work around?

 Finally, its regarding vista's windows media centre. I understand that we
 could setup our tv-tuner card to work with WMC and use it to set schedules
 and recordings etc and just use it without installing any related pvr
 softwares, as in xp. Currently, I have a cable set top box attached to my
 card. When I tried configuring it and told it that my card is attached to 
 a
 external set top box, it told me that I need a microsoft remote control or
 something of that sort. I am a bit puzzled on this. How exactly does this
 work? Is WMC any accessible at all? Have I done anything wrong?

 Thanks all and hope to get any relevant input from listers who have
 experience with vista  and its audio. Thanks.

 Regards,
 Edwin.



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Re: Listening to www.cjob.com

[Larry N]

Bruce, on one of our home systems I tried the links that read 
popup_audioplayer, Click to Listen to CJOB online
and Listen Live. All gave me the Bombers game that they're broadcasting now. 
We used to have a Linksys router and it gave us the same problem that you 
are experiencing, along with sharing issues within our network. After some 
frustrating attempts to resolve the issues, we replaced it with a Netgear 
router. That solved both streaming and sharing problems.Probably not quite 
what you're hoping to hear, but that was our experience.

Larry

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To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 2:33 PM
Subject: Listening to www.cjob.com


I want to listen to the audio at www.cjob.com. I can listen from my work
 computer, so the stream is obviously working, but when I try to listen
 from my home computer there is no audio. I am guessing it's my Linksys
 router being a pain here. Can someone suggest what I need to change to
 get CJOB playing at home? Thanks so much.

 Bruce

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Re: Burning projects edited in sSound Forge

[Larry N]

Hi Kenneth. If I might ask a question that will doubtlessly seem ridiculous 
to long time sound forge users, where might I find Sound Forge's CD burner? 
It was my impression that CD Architect was added to the package because 
Sound Forge had no burner. Guess I guessed wrong. If someone could steer me 
to it using keyboard commands I'd appreciate it.
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Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 11:10 PM
Subject: Re: Burning projects edited in sSound Forge


 why don't you burn it in sound forge?
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 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 9:50 AM
 Subject: Burning projects edited in sSound Forge


I asked my question yesterday, but no one responded. Let's try it from
 another angle. If you edit audio projects in Sound Forge 8.0, what CD
 burning program are you using for them.

 I was using Nero, but it seems incompattible with projects edited in SF.
 When I try to burn such a project in Nero, I get the following error. CD
 needed for Audio CD equals CDR-RW. CD in burner equals CDR. Note that 
 this
 is for an audio CD. Also, please note that this problem occurs only with
 projects edited in Sound Forge. Nero has no problem with projects edited
 in
 GoldWave, DC6, or WavePad. Anyone care to have a go at helping me solve
 this
 issue?

 Larry



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Burning projects edited in sSound Forge

[Larry N]

I asked my question yesterday, but no one responded. Let's try it from 
another angle. If you edit audio projects in Sound Forge 8.0, what CD 
burning program are you using for them.

I was using Nero, but it seems incompattible with projects edited in SF. 
When I try to burn such a project in Nero, I get the following error. CD 
needed for Audio CD equals CDR-RW. CD in burner equals CDR. Note that this 
is for an audio CD. Also, please note that this problem occurs only with 
projects edited in Sound Forge. Nero has no problem with projects edited in 
GoldWave, DC6, or WavePad. Anyone care to have a go at helping me solve this 
issue?

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Re: Burning projects edited in sSound Forge

[Larry N]

Hello Jean. I'm saving Sound Forge edited files as .wav files and then 
dropping them into Nero. I can't imagine what I might be doing wrong. But 
for some reason, Nero won't accept them.

Larry
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Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: Burning projects edited in sSound Forge


 Hey Larry!
 I can burn an audio file that has been edited in Sound Forge 8 using just 
 about any burning software you can think of.
 I have used Nero, CD  Architect, Sound Forge itself...
 What format do you save your Sound Forge file to?
 Jean

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 Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 9:50 AM
 Subject: Burning projects edited in sSound Forge


I asked my question yesterday, but no one responded. Let's try it from
 another angle. If you edit audio projects in Sound Forge 8.0, what CD
 burning program are you using for them.

 I was using Nero, but it seems incompattible with projects edited in SF.
 When I try to burn such a project in Nero, I get the following error. CD
 needed for Audio CD equals CDR-RW. CD in burner equals CDR. Note that 
 this
 is for an audio CD. Also, please note that this problem occurs only with
 projects edited in Sound Forge. Nero has no problem with projects edited 
 in
 GoldWave, DC6, or WavePad. Anyone care to have a go at helping me solve 
 this
 issue?

 Larry



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Re: Burning projects edited in sSound Forge

[Larry N]

I'll check that. Thanks Tom. 

Larry 
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Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: Burning projects edited in sSound Forge


 Larry,
 
 In addition to saving files in dot wav format, do you save them 
 using forty four point one kilohertz sampling rate and 
 stereo?  A few years ago I tried saving a monaural file in 
 Nero thinking I could get twice the amount of audio on a CD.  
 Nero wouldn't do it but I forget exactly what message I got.
 
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files and then dropping them into Nero. I can't imagine what 
I might be doing wrong. But for some reason, Nero won't 
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CD Architect Question

[Larry N]

Since I've started editing certain Vinyl and cassette to CD transfer 
projects in Sound Forge 8, I've learned that Nero 6.6 will not burn projects 
touched by SF. It consistently reports that I have a CDR in my drive, and 
that I need a CDR-RW instead. This is not true, as I have Nero set to Audio 
CD. Furthermore, Nero does not display the same anomaly when I burn a disk 
that was edited with DC6, Goldwave, or WavePad. So far, CD Architect seems 
to be the only burning program that will touch a Sound Forge edited project. 
My problem is that some of my customers want no gaps between tracks. In 
Nero, removing the 2 second gap between tracks is a simple matter. How can I 
accomplish the same thing when using CD Architect?

As always, thanks for any suggestions you might be able to offer.

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Re: CD Architect Question

[Larry N]

Hi there. Yes in Nero there's no problen removing the 2 second gap. just do 
the following.
1. Place focus on a track which you want preceeded by something other than 
the default 2 second pause.
2. press alt+enter. At this point your screen reader should indicate that 
you are now in an edit field.
3. Tab twice. When you do that, your screen reader should say something like 
pause 2, indicating that Nero is set to pause for 2 seconds before the 
highlighted track begins.
4. Write in the number of seconds that you would like Nero to pause before 
beginning the track in question. Note that if you want no pause, you should 
enter in 0.
5. Press enter to save your choice and repeat the process with any other 
tracks where you would like the preceeding pause to be different than the 
default 2 seconds.

Hope this helps.

Larry
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Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: CD Architect Question


Larry,

Sorry i dont' have the answer for you.

However, could you please tell me how you remove the two second gap between
tracks in Nero?

Cheers
Dj Paddy
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- Original Message - 
From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 2:47 PM
Subject: CD Architect Question


 Since I've started editing certain Vinyl and cassette to CD transfer
 projects in Sound Forge 8, I've learned that Nero 6.6 will not burn
 projects
 touched by SF. It consistently reports that I have a CDR in my drive, and
 that I need a CDR-RW instead. This is not true, as I have Nero set to
 Audio
 CD. Furthermore, Nero does not display the same anomaly when I burn a disk
 that was edited with DC6, Goldwave, or WavePad. So far, CD Architect seems
 to be the only burning program that will touch a Sound Forge edited
 project.
 My problem is that some of my customers want no gaps between tracks. In
 Nero, removing the 2 second gap between tracks is a simple matter. How can
 I
 accomplish the same thing when using CD Architect?

 As always, thanks for any suggestions you might be able to offer.

 Larry



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