Re: Speaking of Creative labs...

2009-12-01 Thread Steve S
Hi Brett, depending on what you have to spend, look at the range of delta 
cards.  From the audiophile 2496, which is very affordable, to the delta 
1010.  I personally have a delta 1010LT and it's fantastic for multi track 
recording etc.  Just a thought, just depends on available cash, how many 
ins/outs you need etc, good luck, cheers Steve.
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Hi. I work for an fm rock station as well as several online audio projects 
for vocals and voice acting!
That's why I probably need something a little more than the creative 
stream but i thought I'd ask the list.

bb

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Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...



bret  what kind of media do you produce?
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Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...


Right. Thanks for the feedback. I am a media producer so I guess I'll be
looking around still.
thanks!
bb
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Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...



The real problem people have with Creative cards is poor drivers and
software support for low latency multi-track audio and multiple plug-ins
for digital audio work stations such as Sonar..

My older Audigy 4 pro sounds quite good and recordings are fantastic.
But, asio is a bit dodgy with some soft instrument plug-ins in Sonar.

I have not had experience with the X-FI cards yet.  They should be just
fine for basic stereo recording and surround playback.  But, if you are 
a
musician or media producer, you would be better off with more 
professional

gear.

I wish it was easy to compare the sound of different audio devices.

Bob.

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Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...



actually  that is not really true.
the  quality of the creative cards are quite good.
better then some of the other brands i have heard. other then that i
would
go with  some others that i have heard but are well out of a persons
price
range  but still the creative cards are great and  the x-fi  series is
worth
the money that you would spend on it.

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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
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Subject: Speaking of Creative labs...


Hi. From the many experts and audio buffs I have talked to Creative 
seems

to
be pretty low-end. Does anybody have reccomendations for a sound card
that
is inexpensive and superior quality to Creative. I think people just 
buy

creative because of the name. Similar to Bowes. Anyway thoughts?
bb


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Re: Speaking of Creative labs...

2009-12-01 Thread Robert Logue
That is USB, isn't it?  How is the latency with soft synths?  That model 
goes back to at least 2005.  Don't know what they have now.


I just Googled it.  Looks like they have a Cakewalk branded version now.

I also thought about getting an Edirol.  A friend has the FA-66 which sounds 
great but he doesn't do any multi-tracking with it.  So, I don't know how 
good the firewire would work.  I might also be better off with a USB 
version.  I like that the controls are all hardware with the FA66.


Bob

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I love my Edirol ua101. I was getting more fed up with creative's products
as my demands grew larger, but the edirol works well with soft synths and
for recording and playback.

David.

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Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...

Right. Thanks for the feedback. I am a media producer so I guess I'll be
looking around still.
thanks!
bb
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Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...



The real problem people have with Creative cards is poor drivers and
software support for low latency multi-track audio and multiple plug-ins
for digital audio work stations such as Sonar..

My older Audigy 4 pro sounds quite good and recordings are fantastic.
But, asio is a bit dodgy with some soft instrument plug-ins in Sonar.

I have not had experience with the X-FI cards yet.  They should be just
fine for basic stereo recording and surround playback.  But, if you are a
musician or media producer, you would be better off with more 
professional



gear.

I wish it was easy to compare the sound of different audio devices.

Bob.

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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...



actually  that is not really true.
the  quality of the creative cards are quite good.
better then some of the other brands i have heard. other then that i
would
go with  some others that i have heard but are well out of a persons
price
range  but still the creative cards are great and  the x-fi  series is
worth
the money that you would spend on it.

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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:53 AM
Subject: Speaking of Creative labs...


Hi. From the many experts and audio buffs I have talked to Creative 
seems



to
be pretty low-end. Does anybody have reccomendations for a sound card
that
is inexpensive and superior quality to Creative. I think people just buy
creative because of the name. Similar to Bowes. Anyway thoughts?
bb


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Speaking of Creative labs...

2009-11-30 Thread Brett Boyer
Hi. From the many experts and audio buffs I have talked to Creative seems to 
be pretty low-end. Does anybody have reccomendations for a sound card that 
is inexpensive and superior quality to Creative. I think people just buy 
creative because of the name. Similar to Bowes. Anyway thoughts?
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Re: Speaking of Creative labs...

2009-11-30 Thread Sunshine
actually  that is not really true.
the  quality of the creative cards are quite good.
better then some of the other brands i have heard. other then that i would 
go with  some others that i have heard but are well out of a persons price 
range  but still the creative cards are great and  the x-fi  series is worth 
the money that you would spend on it.

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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:53 AM
Subject: Speaking of Creative labs...


Hi. From the many experts and audio buffs I have talked to Creative seems to
be pretty low-end. Does anybody have reccomendations for a sound card that
is inexpensive and superior quality to Creative. I think people just buy
creative because of the name. Similar to Bowes. Anyway thoughts?
bb


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Re: Speaking of Creative labs...

2009-11-30 Thread Les Gordon
hello, i paid like $169 for my creative soundcard that has the front extra 
controls. that fit into a drive bay. i really love the quality of this card.


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Subject: Speaking of Creative labs...


Hi. From the many experts and audio buffs I have talked to Creative seems 
to be pretty low-end. Does anybody have reccomendations for a sound card 
that is inexpensive and superior quality to Creative. I think people just 
buy creative because of the name. Similar to Bowes. Anyway thoughts?

bb

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Re: Speaking of Creative labs...

2009-11-30 Thread Robert Logue
The real problem people have with Creative cards is poor drivers and 
software support for low latency multi-track audio and multiple plug-ins for 
digital audio work stations such as Sonar..


My older Audigy 4 pro sounds quite good and recordings are fantastic.  But, 
asio is a bit dodgy with some soft instrument plug-ins in Sonar.


I have not had experience with the X-FI cards yet.  They should be just fine 
for basic stereo recording and surround playback.  But, if you are a 
musician or media producer, you would be better off with more professional 
gear.


I wish it was easy to compare the sound of different audio devices.

Bob.

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From: Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...



actually  that is not really true.
the  quality of the creative cards are quite good.
better then some of the other brands i have heard. other then that i would
go with  some others that i have heard but are well out of a persons price
range  but still the creative cards are great and  the x-fi  series is 
worth

the money that you would spend on it.

- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:53 AM
Subject: Speaking of Creative labs...


Hi. From the many experts and audio buffs I have talked to Creative seems 
to

be pretty low-end. Does anybody have reccomendations for a sound card that
is inexpensive and superior quality to Creative. I think people just buy
creative because of the name. Similar to Bowes. Anyway thoughts?
bb


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Re: Speaking of Creative labs...

2009-11-30 Thread Brett Boyer
Right. Thanks for the feedback. I am a media producer so I guess I'll be 
looking around still.

thanks!
bb
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From: Robert Logue bobca...@telusplanet.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...


The real problem people have with Creative cards is poor drivers and 
software support for low latency multi-track audio and multiple plug-ins 
for digital audio work stations such as Sonar..


My older Audigy 4 pro sounds quite good and recordings are fantastic. 
But, asio is a bit dodgy with some soft instrument plug-ins in Sonar.


I have not had experience with the X-FI cards yet.  They should be just 
fine for basic stereo recording and surround playback.  But, if you are a 
musician or media producer, you would be better off with more professional 
gear.


I wish it was easy to compare the sound of different audio devices.

Bob.

- Original Message - 
From: Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...



actually  that is not really true.
the  quality of the creative cards are quite good.
better then some of the other brands i have heard. other then that i 
would
go with  some others that i have heard but are well out of a persons 
price
range  but still the creative cards are great and  the x-fi  series is 
worth

the money that you would spend on it.

- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:53 AM
Subject: Speaking of Creative labs...


Hi. From the many experts and audio buffs I have talked to Creative seems 
to
be pretty low-end. Does anybody have reccomendations for a sound card 
that

is inexpensive and superior quality to Creative. I think people just buy
creative because of the name. Similar to Bowes. Anyway thoughts?
bb


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RE: Speaking of Creative labs...

2009-11-30 Thread David Reynolds
I love my Edirol ua101. I was getting more fed up with creative's products
as my demands grew larger, but the edirol works well with soft synths and
for recording and playback.

David.

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On Behalf Of Brett Boyer
Sent: 30 November 2009 19:52
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...

Right. Thanks for the feedback. I am a media producer so I guess I'll be 
looking around still.
thanks!
bb
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From: Robert Logue bobca...@telusplanet.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...


 The real problem people have with Creative cards is poor drivers and 
 software support for low latency multi-track audio and multiple plug-ins 
 for digital audio work stations such as Sonar..

 My older Audigy 4 pro sounds quite good and recordings are fantastic. 
 But, asio is a bit dodgy with some soft instrument plug-ins in Sonar.

 I have not had experience with the X-FI cards yet.  They should be just 
 fine for basic stereo recording and surround playback.  But, if you are a 
 musician or media producer, you would be better off with more professional

 gear.

 I wish it was easy to compare the sound of different audio devices.

 Bob.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 9:59 AM
 Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...


 actually  that is not really true.
 the  quality of the creative cards are quite good.
 better then some of the other brands i have heard. other then that i 
 would
 go with  some others that i have heard but are well out of a persons 
 price
 range  but still the creative cards are great and  the x-fi  series is 
 worth
 the money that you would spend on it.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:53 AM
 Subject: Speaking of Creative labs...


 Hi. From the many experts and audio buffs I have talked to Creative seems

 to
 be pretty low-end. Does anybody have reccomendations for a sound card 
 that
 is inexpensive and superior quality to Creative. I think people just buy
 creative because of the name. Similar to Bowes. Anyway thoughts?
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Re: Speaking of Creative labs...

2009-11-30 Thread Sunshine
bret  what kind of media do you produce?
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Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...


Right. Thanks for the feedback. I am a media producer so I guess I'll be
looking around still.
thanks!
bb
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From: Robert Logue bobca...@telusplanet.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...


 The real problem people have with Creative cards is poor drivers and
 software support for low latency multi-track audio and multiple plug-ins
 for digital audio work stations such as Sonar..

 My older Audigy 4 pro sounds quite good and recordings are fantastic.
 But, asio is a bit dodgy with some soft instrument plug-ins in Sonar.

 I have not had experience with the X-FI cards yet.  They should be just
 fine for basic stereo recording and surround playback.  But, if you are a
 musician or media producer, you would be better off with more professional
 gear.

 I wish it was easy to compare the sound of different audio devices.

 Bob.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 9:59 AM
 Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...


 actually  that is not really true.
 the  quality of the creative cards are quite good.
 better then some of the other brands i have heard. other then that i
 would
 go with  some others that i have heard but are well out of a persons
 price
 range  but still the creative cards are great and  the x-fi  series is
 worth
 the money that you would spend on it.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:53 AM
 Subject: Speaking of Creative labs...


 Hi. From the many experts and audio buffs I have talked to Creative seems
 to
 be pretty low-end. Does anybody have reccomendations for a sound card
 that
 is inexpensive and superior quality to Creative. I think people just buy
 creative because of the name. Similar to Bowes. Anyway thoughts?
 bb


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Re: Speaking of Creative labs...

2009-11-30 Thread Matthew Chao
I really like the x-fi series myself.  Great for basic stereo and 5.1 
surround sound.--Matthew Chao


At 11:59 AM 11/30/2009, you wrote:

actually  that is not really true.
the  quality of the creative cards are quite good.
better then some of the other brands i have heard. other then that i would
go with  some others that i have heard but are well out of a persons price
range  but still the creative cards are great and  the x-fi  series is worth
the money that you would spend on it.

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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:53 AM
Subject: Speaking of Creative labs...


Hi. From the many experts and audio buffs I have talked to Creative seems to
be pretty low-end. Does anybody have reccomendations for a sound card that
is inexpensive and superior quality to Creative. I think people just buy
creative because of the name. Similar to Bowes. Anyway thoughts?
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Re: Speaking of Creative labs...

2009-11-30 Thread Les Gordon
hi, the xfi card i have i paid $169 for it. and that includes the software 
and the separate controlls and inputs that fit into a single drive bay.

this card gives amazing sound quality, and clearity. i love it.


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Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...


I really like the x-fi series myself.  Great for basic stereo and 5.1 
surround sound.--Matthew Chao


At 11:59 AM 11/30/2009, you wrote:

actually  that is not really true.
the  quality of the creative cards are quite good.
better then some of the other brands i have heard. other then that i would
go with  some others that i have heard but are well out of a persons price
range  but still the creative cards are great and  the x-fi  series is 
worth

the money that you would spend on it.

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From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:53 AM
Subject: Speaking of Creative labs...


Hi. From the many experts and audio buffs I have talked to Creative seems 
to

be pretty low-end. Does anybody have reccomendations for a sound card that
is inexpensive and superior quality to Creative. I think people just buy
creative because of the name. Similar to Bowes. Anyway thoughts?
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Re: Speaking of Creative labs...

2009-11-30 Thread Brett Boyer
Hi. I work for an fm rock station as well as several online audio projects 
for vocals and voice acting!
That's why I probably need something a little more than the creative stream 
but i thought I'd ask the list.

bb

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Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...



bret  what kind of media do you produce?
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...


Right. Thanks for the feedback. I am a media producer so I guess I'll be
looking around still.
thanks!
bb
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From: Robert Logue bobca...@telusplanet.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...



The real problem people have with Creative cards is poor drivers and
software support for low latency multi-track audio and multiple plug-ins
for digital audio work stations such as Sonar..

My older Audigy 4 pro sounds quite good and recordings are fantastic.
But, asio is a bit dodgy with some soft instrument plug-ins in Sonar.

I have not had experience with the X-FI cards yet.  They should be just
fine for basic stereo recording and surround playback.  But, if you are a
musician or media producer, you would be better off with more 
professional

gear.

I wish it was easy to compare the sound of different audio devices.

Bob.

- Original Message - 
From: Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...



actually  that is not really true.
the  quality of the creative cards are quite good.
better then some of the other brands i have heard. other then that i
would
go with  some others that i have heard but are well out of a persons
price
range  but still the creative cards are great and  the x-fi  series is
worth
the money that you would spend on it.

- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:53 AM
Subject: Speaking of Creative labs...


Hi. From the many experts and audio buffs I have talked to Creative 
seems

to
be pretty low-end. Does anybody have reccomendations for a sound card
that
is inexpensive and superior quality to Creative. I think people just buy
creative because of the name. Similar to Bowes. Anyway thoughts?
bb


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Re: Speaking of Creative labs...

2009-11-30 Thread Sunshine
brent, can you tell me what you use for yourdsp processing for the fm side 
of things?

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From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
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Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...


Hi. I work for an fm rock station as well as several online audio projects
for vocals and voice acting!
That's why I probably need something a little more than the creative stream
but i thought I'd ask the list.
bb

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From: Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...


 bret  what kind of media do you produce?
 - Original Message - 
 From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 1:52 PM
 Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...


 Right. Thanks for the feedback. I am a media producer so I guess I'll be
 looking around still.
 thanks!
 bb
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 From: Robert Logue bobca...@telusplanet.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 12:16 PM
 Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...


 The real problem people have with Creative cards is poor drivers and
 software support for low latency multi-track audio and multiple plug-ins
 for digital audio work stations such as Sonar..

 My older Audigy 4 pro sounds quite good and recordings are fantastic.
 But, asio is a bit dodgy with some soft instrument plug-ins in Sonar.

 I have not had experience with the X-FI cards yet.  They should be just
 fine for basic stereo recording and surround playback.  But, if you are a
 musician or media producer, you would be better off with more
 professional
 gear.

 I wish it was easy to compare the sound of different audio devices.

 Bob.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 9:59 AM
 Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...


 actually  that is not really true.
 the  quality of the creative cards are quite good.
 better then some of the other brands i have heard. other then that i
 would
 go with  some others that i have heard but are well out of a persons
 price
 range  but still the creative cards are great and  the x-fi  series is
 worth
 the money that you would spend on it.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:53 AM
 Subject: Speaking of Creative labs...


 Hi. From the many experts and audio buffs I have talked to Creative
 seems
 to
 be pretty low-end. Does anybody have reccomendations for a sound card
 that
 is inexpensive and superior quality to Creative. I think people just buy
 creative because of the name. Similar to Bowes. Anyway thoughts?
 bb


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Re: Speaking of Creative labs...

2009-11-30 Thread Brett Boyer
Hi. Well I'm not the most technical of people when it comes fm transmisions 
and such. I am a program director / production manager. We use lynxus cards 
and we have a physical processor.

I've been working here for about a year and a half
bb
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...



brent, can you tell me what you use for yourdsp processing for the fm side
of things?

- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...


Hi. I work for an fm rock station as well as several online audio projects
for vocals and voice acting!
That's why I probably need something a little more than the creative 
stream

but i thought I'd ask the list.
bb

- Original Message - 
From: Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...



bret  what kind of media do you produce?
- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...


Right. Thanks for the feedback. I am a media producer so I guess I'll be
looking around still.
thanks!
bb
- Original Message - 
From: Robert Logue bobca...@telusplanet.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...



The real problem people have with Creative cards is poor drivers and
software support for low latency multi-track audio and multiple plug-ins
for digital audio work stations such as Sonar..

My older Audigy 4 pro sounds quite good and recordings are fantastic.
But, asio is a bit dodgy with some soft instrument plug-ins in Sonar.

I have not had experience with the X-FI cards yet.  They should be just
fine for basic stereo recording and surround playback.  But, if you are 
a

musician or media producer, you would be better off with more
professional
gear.

I wish it was easy to compare the sound of different audio devices.

Bob.

- Original Message - 
From: Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...



actually  that is not really true.
the  quality of the creative cards are quite good.
better then some of the other brands i have heard. other then that i
would
go with  some others that i have heard but are well out of a persons
price
range  but still the creative cards are great and  the x-fi  series is
worth
the money that you would spend on it.

- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:53 AM
Subject: Speaking of Creative labs...


Hi. From the many experts and audio buffs I have talked to Creative
seems
to
be pretty low-end. Does anybody have reccomendations for a sound card
that
is inexpensive and superior quality to Creative. I think people just 
buy

creative because of the name. Similar to Bowes. Anyway thoughts?
bb


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Re: Speaking of Creative labs...

2009-11-30 Thread Casey

Hi does you FM station stream on the internet?
If so can you pass along the link for it.

Casey
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From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...


Hi. I work for an fm rock station as well as several online audio projects 
for vocals and voice acting!
That's why I probably need something a little more than the creative 
stream but i thought I'd ask the list.

bb

- Original Message - 
From: Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...



bret  what kind of media do you produce?
- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...


Right. Thanks for the feedback. I am a media producer so I guess I'll be
looking around still.
thanks!
bb
- Original Message - 
From: Robert Logue bobca...@telusplanet.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...



The real problem people have with Creative cards is poor drivers and
software support for low latency multi-track audio and multiple plug-ins
for digital audio work stations such as Sonar..

My older Audigy 4 pro sounds quite good and recordings are fantastic.
But, asio is a bit dodgy with some soft instrument plug-ins in Sonar.

I have not had experience with the X-FI cards yet.  They should be just
fine for basic stereo recording and surround playback.  But, if you are 
a
musician or media producer, you would be better off with more 
professional

gear.

I wish it was easy to compare the sound of different audio devices.

Bob.

- Original Message - 
From: Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...



actually  that is not really true.
the  quality of the creative cards are quite good.
better then some of the other brands i have heard. other then that i
would
go with  some others that i have heard but are well out of a persons
price
range  but still the creative cards are great and  the x-fi  series is
worth
the money that you would spend on it.

- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:53 AM
Subject: Speaking of Creative labs...


Hi. From the many experts and audio buffs I have talked to Creative 
seems

to
be pretty low-end. Does anybody have reccomendations for a sound card
that
is inexpensive and superior quality to Creative. I think people just 
buy

creative because of the name. Similar to Bowes. Anyway thoughts?
bb


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Re: Speaking of Creative labs...

2009-11-30 Thread Brett Boyer
Sure. The stream is pretty good. I'm still trying to get my boss to work on 
it but it sounds pretty good now.

its at:
www.kzbr971.com
I have programmed the whole station through Natural Music and Wireready.
I also do a request morning show from 6 to 9 mountain time.
bb
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From: Casey cwoll...@wi.rr.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...



Hi does you FM station stream on the internet?
If so can you pass along the link for it.

Casey
- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...


Hi. I work for an fm rock station as well as several online audio 
projects for vocals and voice acting!
That's why I probably need something a little more than the creative 
stream but i thought I'd ask the list.

bb

- Original Message - 
From: Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...



bret  what kind of media do you produce?
- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...


Right. Thanks for the feedback. I am a media producer so I guess I'll be
looking around still.
thanks!
bb
- Original Message - 
From: Robert Logue bobca...@telusplanet.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...



The real problem people have with Creative cards is poor drivers and
software support for low latency multi-track audio and multiple 
plug-ins

for digital audio work stations such as Sonar..

My older Audigy 4 pro sounds quite good and recordings are fantastic.
But, asio is a bit dodgy with some soft instrument plug-ins in Sonar.

I have not had experience with the X-FI cards yet.  They should be just
fine for basic stereo recording and surround playback.  But, if you are 
a
musician or media producer, you would be better off with more 
professional

gear.

I wish it was easy to compare the sound of different audio devices.

Bob.

- Original Message - 
From: Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...



actually  that is not really true.
the  quality of the creative cards are quite good.
better then some of the other brands i have heard. other then that i
would
go with  some others that i have heard but are well out of a persons
price
range  but still the creative cards are great and  the x-fi  series is
worth
the money that you would spend on it.

- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:53 AM
Subject: Speaking of Creative labs...


Hi. From the many experts and audio buffs I have talked to Creative 
seems

to
be pretty low-end. Does anybody have reccomendations for a sound card
that
is inexpensive and superior quality to Creative. I think people just 
buy

creative because of the name. Similar to Bowes. Anyway thoughts?
bb


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RE: Speaking of Creative labs...

2009-11-30 Thread André van Deventer
 It also will depend to some extent where the output sound quality is
concerned on what you use to listen to it.  On a pair of computer speakers
or home theater system you  may not really hear the difference between sound
cards.  But if you listen to the output on a proper stereo hifi system the
difference in quality may be more evident.



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On Behalf Of Robert Logue
Sent: 30 November 2009 09:17 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...

The real problem people have with Creative cards is poor drivers and
software support for low latency multi-track audio and multiple plug-ins for
digital audio work stations such as Sonar..

My older Audigy 4 pro sounds quite good and recordings are fantastic.  But,
asio is a bit dodgy with some soft instrument plug-ins in Sonar.

I have not had experience with the X-FI cards yet.  They should be just fine
for basic stereo recording and surround playback.  But, if you are a
musician or media producer, you would be better off with more professional
gear.

I wish it was easy to compare the sound of different audio devices.

Bob.

- Original Message -
From: Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: Speaking of Creative labs...


 actually  that is not really true.
 the  quality of the creative cards are quite good.
 better then some of the other brands i have heard. other then that i would
 go with  some others that i have heard but are well out of a persons price
 range  but still the creative cards are great and  the x-fi  series is 
 worth
 the money that you would spend on it.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:53 AM
 Subject: Speaking of Creative labs...


 Hi. From the many experts and audio buffs I have talked to Creative seems 
 to
 be pretty low-end. Does anybody have reccomendations for a sound card that
 is inexpensive and superior quality to Creative. I think people just buy
 creative because of the name. Similar to Bowes. Anyway thoughts?
 bb


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