SV: converting other file types
Hi! I use the oxelon media converter which is open source an can be found at: http://www.oxelon.com It puts itself in your context menu so if you're standing on an mp3 or wma file you can select convert audio and then chooce the format you want to convert to. /Anders. -Ursprungligt meddelande- Fran: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] For Christopher Chaltain Skickat: den 31 mars 2009 04:43 Till: PC Audio Discussion List Amne: Re: converting other file types I use Switch Audio File Conversion Software from http://www.nch.com.au/switch/index.html. You can download the trial ware for free. When the trial period runs out, you can still convert WMA to MP3 using the free version of Switch. Since you're converting from one lossless format to another, will result in a loss of sound quality. It isn't clear whether this would be noticeable or not though. That would depend in part on the type of audio and the bit rates and sampling rates used in the source and target files. Les Gordon wrote: the website for digital media pro version 2.3 is www.deskshare.com you can download the demo there and then purchase if you like it. thanks les - Original Message - From: Donald donald.goos...@sbcglobal.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: RE: converting other file types Where do you get it and what is the cost? In the conversion process do you lose any of the quality? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Les Gordon Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:18 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: converting other file types hi, i use digital media pro 2.3 that can convert most of those file types include dvd and others. - Original Message - From: Donald donald.goos...@sbcglobal.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:54 AM Subject: converting other file types On a similar subject about file conversion, is there a program that will convert wma to mp3? How much quality is lost in the process? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 8:52 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats Thanks all for the information. I personally didn't interpret do not decompile, disassemble, or reverse engineer the Audible Content as prohibiting me from converting the media format. Maybe if it had said electronic content instead of audible content I might have interpreted it differently. After all, you are allowed to download it, stream it and write it to CD for your own personal use. Granted, I might have read this with a pair of rose colored glasses on. I guess my main point was two fold. First, I saw quite a few sites which claimed that their product was a legal way to convert Audible files into other formats and other sites which talked about what was and wasn't legal given Audible's terms and conditions, the DMAC, fair use and court cases, which lead me to believe that it isn't clear what is and isn't legal in this case. Second, as others have stated on this list, I doubt any company or law enforcement agency would prosecute anyone who was making copies for their own personal use and was scrupulous about making sure those copies didn't end up in anyone else's hands. Note that I also feel it's clear that sharing these files, even with a few friends, is illegal, although maybe not unethical. Richard Claypool wrote: Hi, there is fair use, but the digital molenium copyright act prohibits breaking encryption on files. This has been one of the complaints of people for ages that they can't make a personal backup of say a dvd for thier own use because it violates the DMCA. Rick twitter http://twitter.com/elheme msn bellevue@gmail.com skype lord_of_beer - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:46 AM Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats Bruce, This is an intelligent but very literal reading. I don't know about Canada, but in the US, copyright law has a fair use exception. There is really nothing to stop an individual from making copies or otherwise using products they own for their own purposes. I assume the manufacturer's purpose behind the provision you quote is to discourage dissemination of these materials. But if individuals don't have that intention, I doubt the manufacturer would have any reason to care. Correct me if I'm overlooking something. All that said, I share your concern that we all respect copyrighted materials and use them only for ourselves
converting other file types
On a similar subject about file conversion, is there a program that will convert wma to mp3? How much quality is lost in the process? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 8:52 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats Thanks all for the information. I personally didn't interpret do not decompile, disassemble, or reverse engineer the Audible Content as prohibiting me from converting the media format. Maybe if it had said electronic content instead of audible content I might have interpreted it differently. After all, you are allowed to download it, stream it and write it to CD for your own personal use. Granted, I might have read this with a pair of rose colored glasses on. I guess my main point was two fold. First, I saw quite a few sites which claimed that their product was a legal way to convert Audible files into other formats and other sites which talked about what was and wasn't legal given Audible's terms and conditions, the DMAC, fair use and court cases, which lead me to believe that it isn't clear what is and isn't legal in this case. Second, as others have stated on this list, I doubt any company or law enforcement agency would prosecute anyone who was making copies for their own personal use and was scrupulous about making sure those copies didn't end up in anyone else's hands. Note that I also feel it's clear that sharing these files, even with a few friends, is illegal, although maybe not unethical. Richard Claypool wrote: Hi, there is fair use, but the digital molenium copyright act prohibits breaking encryption on files. This has been one of the complaints of people for ages that they can't make a personal backup of say a dvd for thier own use because it violates the DMCA. Rick twitter http://twitter.com/elheme msn bellevue@gmail.com skype lord_of_beer - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:46 AM Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats Bruce, This is an intelligent but very literal reading. I don't know about Canada, but in the US, copyright law has a fair use exception. There is really nothing to stop an individual from making copies or otherwise using products they own for their own purposes. I assume the manufacturer's purpose behind the provision you quote is to discourage dissemination of these materials. But if individuals don't have that intention, I doubt the manufacturer would have any reason to care. Correct me if I'm overlooking something. All that said, I share your concern that we all respect copyrighted materials and use them only for ourselves and maybe a friend or two. - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:53 AM Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats It says you shall not modify or disassemble the content. Bruce On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I'm not sure this is true. I may not be able to interpret all of the legal jargon, but I think Audible's terms and conditions plus fair use in the US would allow you to convert Audible books into another format for your own personal use. Audible's terms and conditions at http://www.audible.com/adbl/faqs/terms.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes say the following: 6. Grants of Licenses a. Audible Content License. When you clickout or otherwise purchase (referred to herein, collectively as Purchase) Audible Content from the Audible Service, Audible grants you a limited, revocable, non-exclusive, non-transferable license to download or stream such Audible Content to your computer and/or your Device(s) solely for your personal non-commercial use. You shall not copy, reproduce, distribute or use the Audible Content in any other manner. You shall not sell, transfer, lease, modify, distribute or publicly perform the Audible Content in any manner and you shall not exploit it commercially. Do not (A) decompile, disassemble, or reverse engineer the Audible Content or attempt to do so; or (B) modify the Audible Content or create any derivative works therefrom. This license to the Audible Content you Purchase will continue for as long as your copy of Audible Content exists pursuant to and in accordance with the terms and conditions of this Agreement. In doing some searching on the web, there are quite a few sites that say converting Audible books to MP3 is legal in the US under fair use while others say that Audible's terms and conditions preclude doing this. I'm not sure that I've seen anything definitive on either side though. A lot of people say it's illegal without quoting any
Re: converting other file types
the website for digital media pro version 2.3 is www.deskshare.com you can download the demo there and then purchase if you like it. thanks les - Original Message - From: Donald donald.goos...@sbcglobal.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: RE: converting other file types Where do you get it and what is the cost? In the conversion process do you lose any of the quality? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Les Gordon Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:18 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: converting other file types hi, i use digital media pro 2.3 that can convert most of those file types include dvd and others. - Original Message - From: Donald donald.goos...@sbcglobal.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:54 AM Subject: converting other file types On a similar subject about file conversion, is there a program that will convert wma to mp3? How much quality is lost in the process? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 8:52 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats Thanks all for the information. I personally didn't interpret do not decompile, disassemble, or reverse engineer the Audible Content as prohibiting me from converting the media format. Maybe if it had said electronic content instead of audible content I might have interpreted it differently. After all, you are allowed to download it, stream it and write it to CD for your own personal use. Granted, I might have read this with a pair of rose colored glasses on. I guess my main point was two fold. First, I saw quite a few sites which claimed that their product was a legal way to convert Audible files into other formats and other sites which talked about what was and wasn't legal given Audible's terms and conditions, the DMAC, fair use and court cases, which lead me to believe that it isn't clear what is and isn't legal in this case. Second, as others have stated on this list, I doubt any company or law enforcement agency would prosecute anyone who was making copies for their own personal use and was scrupulous about making sure those copies didn't end up in anyone else's hands. Note that I also feel it's clear that sharing these files, even with a few friends, is illegal, although maybe not unethical. Richard Claypool wrote: Hi, there is fair use, but the digital molenium copyright act prohibits breaking encryption on files. This has been one of the complaints of people for ages that they can't make a personal backup of say a dvd for thier own use because it violates the DMCA. Rick twitter http://twitter.com/elheme msn bellevue@gmail.com skype lord_of_beer - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:46 AM Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats Bruce, This is an intelligent but very literal reading. I don't know about Canada, but in the US, copyright law has a fair use exception. There is really nothing to stop an individual from making copies or otherwise using products they own for their own purposes. I assume the manufacturer's purpose behind the provision you quote is to discourage dissemination of these materials. But if individuals don't have that intention, I doubt the manufacturer would have any reason to care. Correct me if I'm overlooking something. All that said, I share your concern that we all respect copyrighted materials and use them only for ourselves and maybe a friend or two. - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:53 AM Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats It says you shall not modify or disassemble the content. Bruce On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I'm not sure this is true. I may not be able to interpret all of the legal jargon, but I think Audible's terms and conditions plus fair use in the US would allow you to convert Audible books into another format for your own personal use. Audible's terms and conditions at http://www.audible.com/adbl/faqs/terms.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes say the following: 6. Grants of Licenses a. Audible Content License. When you clickout or otherwise purchase (referred to herein, collectively as Purchase) Audible Content from the Audible Service, Audible grants you a limited, revocable, non-exclusive, non-transferable license to download or stream such Audible Content to your computer and/or your Device(s) solely for your personal non-commercial use. You shall not copy, reproduce, distribute or use the Audible
Re: converting other file types
hi, i use digital media pro 2.3 that can convert most of those file types include dvd and others. - Original Message - From: Donald donald.goos...@sbcglobal.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:54 AM Subject: converting other file types On a similar subject about file conversion, is there a program that will convert wma to mp3? How much quality is lost in the process? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 8:52 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats Thanks all for the information. I personally didn't interpret do not decompile, disassemble, or reverse engineer the Audible Content as prohibiting me from converting the media format. Maybe if it had said electronic content instead of audible content I might have interpreted it differently. After all, you are allowed to download it, stream it and write it to CD for your own personal use. Granted, I might have read this with a pair of rose colored glasses on. I guess my main point was two fold. First, I saw quite a few sites which claimed that their product was a legal way to convert Audible files into other formats and other sites which talked about what was and wasn't legal given Audible's terms and conditions, the DMAC, fair use and court cases, which lead me to believe that it isn't clear what is and isn't legal in this case. Second, as others have stated on this list, I doubt any company or law enforcement agency would prosecute anyone who was making copies for their own personal use and was scrupulous about making sure those copies didn't end up in anyone else's hands. Note that I also feel it's clear that sharing these files, even with a few friends, is illegal, although maybe not unethical. Richard Claypool wrote: Hi, there is fair use, but the digital molenium copyright act prohibits breaking encryption on files. This has been one of the complaints of people for ages that they can't make a personal backup of say a dvd for thier own use because it violates the DMCA. Rick twitter http://twitter.com/elheme msn bellevue@gmail.com skype lord_of_beer - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:46 AM Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats Bruce, This is an intelligent but very literal reading. I don't know about Canada, but in the US, copyright law has a fair use exception. There is really nothing to stop an individual from making copies or otherwise using products they own for their own purposes. I assume the manufacturer's purpose behind the provision you quote is to discourage dissemination of these materials. But if individuals don't have that intention, I doubt the manufacturer would have any reason to care. Correct me if I'm overlooking something. All that said, I share your concern that we all respect copyrighted materials and use them only for ourselves and maybe a friend or two. - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:53 AM Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats It says you shall not modify or disassemble the content. Bruce On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I'm not sure this is true. I may not be able to interpret all of the legal jargon, but I think Audible's terms and conditions plus fair use in the US would allow you to convert Audible books into another format for your own personal use. Audible's terms and conditions at http://www.audible.com/adbl/faqs/terms.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes say the following: 6. Grants of Licenses a. Audible Content License. When you clickout or otherwise purchase (referred to herein, collectively as Purchase) Audible Content from the Audible Service, Audible grants you a limited, revocable, non-exclusive, non-transferable license to download or stream such Audible Content to your computer and/or your Device(s) solely for your personal non-commercial use. You shall not copy, reproduce, distribute or use the Audible Content in any other manner. You shall not sell, transfer, lease, modify, distribute or publicly perform the Audible Content in any manner and you shall not exploit it commercially. Do not (A) decompile, disassemble, or reverse engineer the Audible Content or attempt to do so; or (B) modify the Audible Content or create any derivative works therefrom. This license to the Audible Content you Purchase will continue for as long as your copy of Audible Content exists pursuant to and in accordance with the terms and conditions of this Agreement. In doing some searching on the web, there are quite a few sites that say converting Audible books to MP3 is legal in the US under fair use while
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Where do you get it and what is the cost? In the conversion process do you lose any of the quality? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Les Gordon Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:18 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: converting other file types hi, i use digital media pro 2.3 that can convert most of those file types include dvd and others. - Original Message - From: Donald donald.goos...@sbcglobal.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:54 AM Subject: converting other file types On a similar subject about file conversion, is there a program that will convert wma to mp3? How much quality is lost in the process? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 8:52 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats Thanks all for the information. I personally didn't interpret do not decompile, disassemble, or reverse engineer the Audible Content as prohibiting me from converting the media format. Maybe if it had said electronic content instead of audible content I might have interpreted it differently. After all, you are allowed to download it, stream it and write it to CD for your own personal use. Granted, I might have read this with a pair of rose colored glasses on. I guess my main point was two fold. First, I saw quite a few sites which claimed that their product was a legal way to convert Audible files into other formats and other sites which talked about what was and wasn't legal given Audible's terms and conditions, the DMAC, fair use and court cases, which lead me to believe that it isn't clear what is and isn't legal in this case. Second, as others have stated on this list, I doubt any company or law enforcement agency would prosecute anyone who was making copies for their own personal use and was scrupulous about making sure those copies didn't end up in anyone else's hands. Note that I also feel it's clear that sharing these files, even with a few friends, is illegal, although maybe not unethical. Richard Claypool wrote: Hi, there is fair use, but the digital molenium copyright act prohibits breaking encryption on files. This has been one of the complaints of people for ages that they can't make a personal backup of say a dvd for thier own use because it violates the DMCA. Rick twitter http://twitter.com/elheme msn bellevue@gmail.com skype lord_of_beer - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:46 AM Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats Bruce, This is an intelligent but very literal reading. I don't know about Canada, but in the US, copyright law has a fair use exception. There is really nothing to stop an individual from making copies or otherwise using products they own for their own purposes. I assume the manufacturer's purpose behind the provision you quote is to discourage dissemination of these materials. But if individuals don't have that intention, I doubt the manufacturer would have any reason to care. Correct me if I'm overlooking something. All that said, I share your concern that we all respect copyrighted materials and use them only for ourselves and maybe a friend or two. - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:53 AM Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats It says you shall not modify or disassemble the content. Bruce On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I'm not sure this is true. I may not be able to interpret all of the legal jargon, but I think Audible's terms and conditions plus fair use in the US would allow you to convert Audible books into another format for your own personal use. Audible's terms and conditions at http://www.audible.com/adbl/faqs/terms.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes say the following: 6. Grants of Licenses a. Audible Content License. When you clickout or otherwise purchase (referred to herein, collectively as Purchase) Audible Content from the Audible Service, Audible grants you a limited, revocable, non-exclusive, non-transferable license to download or stream such Audible Content to your computer and/or your Device(s) solely for your personal non-commercial use. You shall not copy, reproduce, distribute or use the Audible Content in any other manner. You shall not sell, transfer, lease, modify, distribute or publicly perform the Audible Content in any manner and you shall not exploit it commercially. Do not (A) decompile, disassemble, or reverse engineer the Audible Content or attempt to do so
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i will grab the site and email it to you. i think it costs $29.95 its very easy to use. thanks les. oh the quality for the most part stays the same. unless you really compress the files. - Original Message - From: Donald donald.goos...@sbcglobal.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: RE: converting other file types Where do you get it and what is the cost? In the conversion process do you lose any of the quality? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Les Gordon Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:18 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: converting other file types hi, i use digital media pro 2.3 that can convert most of those file types include dvd and others. - Original Message - From: Donald donald.goos...@sbcglobal.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:54 AM Subject: converting other file types On a similar subject about file conversion, is there a program that will convert wma to mp3? How much quality is lost in the process? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 8:52 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats Thanks all for the information. I personally didn't interpret do not decompile, disassemble, or reverse engineer the Audible Content as prohibiting me from converting the media format. Maybe if it had said electronic content instead of audible content I might have interpreted it differently. After all, you are allowed to download it, stream it and write it to CD for your own personal use. Granted, I might have read this with a pair of rose colored glasses on. I guess my main point was two fold. First, I saw quite a few sites which claimed that their product was a legal way to convert Audible files into other formats and other sites which talked about what was and wasn't legal given Audible's terms and conditions, the DMAC, fair use and court cases, which lead me to believe that it isn't clear what is and isn't legal in this case. Second, as others have stated on this list, I doubt any company or law enforcement agency would prosecute anyone who was making copies for their own personal use and was scrupulous about making sure those copies didn't end up in anyone else's hands. Note that I also feel it's clear that sharing these files, even with a few friends, is illegal, although maybe not unethical. Richard Claypool wrote: Hi, there is fair use, but the digital molenium copyright act prohibits breaking encryption on files. This has been one of the complaints of people for ages that they can't make a personal backup of say a dvd for thier own use because it violates the DMCA. Rick twitter http://twitter.com/elheme msn bellevue@gmail.com skype lord_of_beer - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:46 AM Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats Bruce, This is an intelligent but very literal reading. I don't know about Canada, but in the US, copyright law has a fair use exception. There is really nothing to stop an individual from making copies or otherwise using products they own for their own purposes. I assume the manufacturer's purpose behind the provision you quote is to discourage dissemination of these materials. But if individuals don't have that intention, I doubt the manufacturer would have any reason to care. Correct me if I'm overlooking something. All that said, I share your concern that we all respect copyrighted materials and use them only for ourselves and maybe a friend or two. - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:53 AM Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats It says you shall not modify or disassemble the content. Bruce On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I'm not sure this is true. I may not be able to interpret all of the legal jargon, but I think Audible's terms and conditions plus fair use in the US would allow you to convert Audible books into another format for your own personal use. Audible's terms and conditions at http://www.audible.com/adbl/faqs/terms.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes say the following: 6. Grants of Licenses a. Audible Content License. When you clickout or otherwise purchase (referred to herein, collectively as Purchase) Audible Content from the Audible Service, Audible grants you a limited, revocable, non-exclusive, non-transferable license to download or stream such Audible Content to your computer and/or your Device(s) solely for your personal non-commercial use. You shall not copy
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Talking of the website, anyone tried Text Speaker? It seems similar to TextAloud or DSpeech, but has more features, including adding background music to the document, as well as creating and editing documents, even in Microsoft Word format! -- Chris Hallsworth e-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 - Original Message - From: Les Gordon mr...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 1:32 PM Subject: Re: converting other file types the website for digital media pro version 2.3 is www.deskshare.com you can download the demo there and then purchase if you like it. thanks les - Original Message - From: Donald donald.goos...@sbcglobal.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: RE: converting other file types Where do you get it and what is the cost? In the conversion process do you lose any of the quality? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Les Gordon Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:18 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: converting other file types hi, i use digital media pro 2.3 that can convert most of those file types include dvd and others. - Original Message - From: Donald donald.goos...@sbcglobal.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:54 AM Subject: converting other file types On a similar subject about file conversion, is there a program that will convert wma to mp3? How much quality is lost in the process? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 8:52 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats Thanks all for the information. I personally didn't interpret do not decompile, disassemble, or reverse engineer the Audible Content as prohibiting me from converting the media format. Maybe if it had said electronic content instead of audible content I might have interpreted it differently. After all, you are allowed to download it, stream it and write it to CD for your own personal use. Granted, I might have read this with a pair of rose colored glasses on. I guess my main point was two fold. First, I saw quite a few sites which claimed that their product was a legal way to convert Audible files into other formats and other sites which talked about what was and wasn't legal given Audible's terms and conditions, the DMAC, fair use and court cases, which lead me to believe that it isn't clear what is and isn't legal in this case. Second, as others have stated on this list, I doubt any company or law enforcement agency would prosecute anyone who was making copies for their own personal use and was scrupulous about making sure those copies didn't end up in anyone else's hands. Note that I also feel it's clear that sharing these files, even with a few friends, is illegal, although maybe not unethical. Richard Claypool wrote: Hi, there is fair use, but the digital molenium copyright act prohibits breaking encryption on files. This has been one of the complaints of people for ages that they can't make a personal backup of say a dvd for thier own use because it violates the DMCA. Rick twitter http://twitter.com/elheme msn bellevue@gmail.com skype lord_of_beer - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:46 AM Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats Bruce, This is an intelligent but very literal reading. I don't know about Canada, but in the US, copyright law has a fair use exception. There is really nothing to stop an individual from making copies or otherwise using products they own for their own purposes. I assume the manufacturer's purpose behind the provision you quote is to discourage dissemination of these materials. But if individuals don't have that intention, I doubt the manufacturer would have any reason to care. Correct me if I'm overlooking something. All that said, I share your concern that we all respect copyrighted materials and use them only for ourselves and maybe a friend or two. - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:53 AM Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats It says you shall not modify or disassemble the content. Bruce On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I'm not sure this is true. I may not be able to interpret all of the legal jargon, but I think Audible's terms and conditions plus fair use in the US would allow you to convert
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I use Switch Audio File Conversion Software from http://www.nch.com.au/switch/index.html. You can download the trial ware for free. When the trial period runs out, you can still convert WMA to MP3 using the free version of Switch. Since you're converting from one lossless format to another, will result in a loss of sound quality. It isn't clear whether this would be noticeable or not though. That would depend in part on the type of audio and the bit rates and sampling rates used in the source and target files. Les Gordon wrote: the website for digital media pro version 2.3 is www.deskshare.com you can download the demo there and then purchase if you like it. thanks les - Original Message - From: Donald donald.goos...@sbcglobal.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: RE: converting other file types Where do you get it and what is the cost? In the conversion process do you lose any of the quality? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Les Gordon Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:18 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: converting other file types hi, i use digital media pro 2.3 that can convert most of those file types include dvd and others. - Original Message - From: Donald donald.goos...@sbcglobal.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:54 AM Subject: converting other file types On a similar subject about file conversion, is there a program that will convert wma to mp3? How much quality is lost in the process? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 8:52 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats Thanks all for the information. I personally didn't interpret do not decompile, disassemble, or reverse engineer the Audible Content as prohibiting me from converting the media format. Maybe if it had said electronic content instead of audible content I might have interpreted it differently. After all, you are allowed to download it, stream it and write it to CD for your own personal use. Granted, I might have read this with a pair of rose colored glasses on. I guess my main point was two fold. First, I saw quite a few sites which claimed that their product was a legal way to convert Audible files into other formats and other sites which talked about what was and wasn't legal given Audible's terms and conditions, the DMAC, fair use and court cases, which lead me to believe that it isn't clear what is and isn't legal in this case. Second, as others have stated on this list, I doubt any company or law enforcement agency would prosecute anyone who was making copies for their own personal use and was scrupulous about making sure those copies didn't end up in anyone else's hands. Note that I also feel it's clear that sharing these files, even with a few friends, is illegal, although maybe not unethical. Richard Claypool wrote: Hi, there is fair use, but the digital molenium copyright act prohibits breaking encryption on files. This has been one of the complaints of people for ages that they can't make a personal backup of say a dvd for thier own use because it violates the DMCA. Rick twitter http://twitter.com/elheme msn bellevue@gmail.com skype lord_of_beer - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:46 AM Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats Bruce, This is an intelligent but very literal reading. I don't know about Canada, but in the US, copyright law has a fair use exception. There is really nothing to stop an individual from making copies or otherwise using products they own for their own purposes. I assume the manufacturer's purpose behind the provision you quote is to discourage dissemination of these materials. But if individuals don't have that intention, I doubt the manufacturer would have any reason to care. Correct me if I'm overlooking something. All that said, I share your concern that we all respect copyrighted materials and use them only for ourselves and maybe a friend or two. - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:53 AM Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats It says you shall not modify or disassemble the content. Bruce On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I'm not sure this is true. I may not be able to interpret all of the legal jargon, but I think Audible's terms and conditions plus fair use in the US would allow you to convert Audible books into another format for your own personal use
