Re: [pca] question to folks running Oracle Solaris Studio 12 or 12.3
Le 2014/02/18 09:47 +0100, Dennis Clarke a écrit: Merely a polite question to anyone out there that still has Solaris systems doing compile work AND you are still using Oracle Solaris Studio 12 or 12.3 releases. Has anyone bothered to spend the money for the separate support on the compiler tools and was it worth the expense as near as you can tell? You need support to get patches, and the compilers our-of-the-box have *a lot* of bugs, So practically, if you want to legally produce reliable binaries, you need support. Not sure why Oracle separated out the compilers from the normal support contracts. Other than to get an additional 0.01% revenue from the one person in 10,000 that still has these things running. Not sure what you mean here. Compiler support has been separate from OS support since before I starting dabbling with Solaris, and that was more than 15 years ago. Sun's policy (and naming) kept changing, so I'm not sure how Oracle is to blame for the mess Sun made. For sure, Oracle doesn't seem any more intent on winning hearts and minds on the product. Laurent
Re: [pca] question to folks running Oracle Solaris Studio 12 or 12.3
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014, Dennis Clarke wrote: ; Merely a polite question to anyone out there that still has Solaris ; systems doing compile work AND you are still using Oracle Solaris Studio ; 12 or 12.3 releases. ; ; Has anyone bothered to spend the money for the separate support on ; the compiler tools and was it worth the expense as near as you can ; tell? One of my customers bought this support specifically to obtain patches to add T5 processor support. The whole process was a pain but they did eventually get access to the patches. It's a 'Named User+' product which further complicated the issue. Andy
Re: [pca] question to folks running Oracle Solaris Studio 12 or 12.3
As our security officers says All patches must be applied, no unaplied patch could be 90 days oldest ...) we baught an extended support for Solaris Studio, necessary to download patches, cost is 300 €ur for 1 machine by year. Daniel -Message d'origine- De : pca-boun...@lists.univie.ac.at [mailto:pca-boun...@lists.univie.ac.at] De la part de Andy Fiddaman Envoyé : vendredi 14 février 2014 12:14 À : PCA (Patch Check Advanced) Discussion Objet : Re: [pca] question to folks running Oracle Solaris Studio 12 or 12.3 On Thu, 13 Feb 2014, Dennis Clarke wrote: ; Merely a polite question to anyone out there that still has Solaris ; systems doing compile work AND you are still using Oracle Solaris Studio ; 12 or 12.3 releases. ; ; Has anyone bothered to spend the money for the separate support on ; the compiler tools and was it worth the expense as near as you can ; tell? One of my customers bought this support specifically to obtain patches to add T5 processor support. The whole process was a pain but they did eventually get access to the patches. It's a 'Named User+' product which further complicated the issue. Andy
Re: [pca] question to folks running Oracle Solaris Studio 12 or 12.3
We have Oracle Solaris Studio. I have not patched it in awhile. We did have support some years ago - but when I inquired about it I was told that the patches are free, the support is if you need help using it, so we dropped support. It's my understanding that gcc uses (or can use) the Solaris Studio code generator (my words) - I don't know if this is for both SPARC and X86, or just SPARC. I have not used gcc or Solaris Studio - so have no experience with either. Glen Gunselman Systems Software Specialist Information Technology Emporia State University 1200 Commerical St Emporia Kansas 66801 -Original Message- From: pca-boun...@lists.univie.ac.at [mailto:pca-boun...@lists.univie.ac.at] On Behalf Of Dennis Clarke Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 1:15 PM To: pca@lists.univie.ac.at Subject: [pca] question to folks running Oracle Solaris Studio 12 or 12.3 Merely a polite question to anyone out there that still has Solaris systems doing compile work AND you are still using Oracle Solaris Studio 12 or 12.3 releases. Has anyone bothered to spend the money for the separate support on the compiler tools and was it worth the expense as near as you can tell?
Re: [pca] question to folks running Oracle Solaris Studio 12 or 12.3
On 13/02/14 04:10 PM, Brookins, Neil (Philadelphia) wrote: Yes (compile work) Yes (use Studio 12.3) No (pay for Studio support) Reason -- license says that we don't have to pay if we don't want support. I support it myself, for my own use. When I do a build, I always update and patch my tools, such as Studio 12.3, before I compile for each release. I have not yet installed the patches below because we have not had a build/release since the patches came out. When we build, I do use the optimizations in the compiler specific to the platform we are deploying on. These are not all available w/ GCC. I just tried to download 148917-07.zip which is in your list below. It worked for me, but I'm not paying any extra for Oracle Solaris Studio support. Perhaps its included in something else I'm paying for? I'm not sure. Are you saying you can't download it? I have had a support contract for years and I can tell you that the compiler patches are not free. I tried to call Oracle about this and they bounced me around for months ( yes months ) before handing me over to a third party that told me the Oracle Studio tools were a free download and thus there are no patches. I kid you not. I have all the emails. So I went full circle until I was shown this : http://www.oracle.com/us/support/development-tools/index.html click on Oracle Solaris Development Tools Support https://shop.oracle.com/pls/ostore/f?p=dstore:product:4426670536659428::NO:RP,6:P6_LPI,P6_PPI:14755510228390585509244, and you see a nice price there. So it looks to be a pay more money to get support but no one seems to know anything about the patches to update the Studio Compiler. Really frustrating. Dennis * *
