Re: [PD] readanysf~ v0.30
errordevelo...@gmail.com wrote: hi well ..that sounds brilliant - but why is it dependent on some 'gavl' ?? hmm, that's interesting as a hard dependency on gavl makes readanysf~ be pretty much linux only at the moment (despite of what is discussed on other lists...) anyhow, Gem's HEAD has currently a soft dependency on gavl (and gmerlin_avdec) as well, so it is a must anyhow :-) fgmadsr IOhannes smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] readanysf~ v0.30
august wrote: hi gavl is a really brilliant low-level library which handles the details of audio and video formats like colorspaces, samplerates, multichannel configurations etc. i basically agree. and it is super simple. it took me two days during(!) piksel (while drinking beer and stuff) to hear of gavl/gmerlin and implement support for it in Gem. gmerlin_avdecode uses gavl to deliver frames of audio and video (including conversions and resampling). It can decode all kinds of media filesmp3, ogg, flac, mp4, x264..etc. Pretty much everything that can be played with mplayer. Together, they are as close to a full-fledged multi-media api that I have seen yet on linux. gstreamer comes close, but has a really large and complex design. for me, gstreamer and gmerlin do not directly compete. while both claim to be multimedia frameworks, the former is hard to interface on the data-level from a host application; however pipelines (within the gst-framework) are highly optimized and do not require much thinking of the host-programmes authors. otoh, gmerlin is a straighforward API to read data from a media-stream into your host application (writing is possible but more complicated) I think you will see gavl/gmerlin become more standard in the future. Lumiera, the new video editing software from the cinelerra-cv folks, is based on it. and Gem :-) It IS unfortunate that they aren't yet apt-get'able, but I think that should happen soon. gavl itself has been packaged into debian since etch. unfrotunately gavl is just the interface that defines how frames of data look like, whereas the actual decoding library is in a a package called gmerlin_avdec, which is _not_ in proper debian. however, it is available through debian-multimedia by christian marillat. fgmasdr IOhannes smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] readanysf~ v0.30
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:09 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: errordevelo...@gmail.com wrote: hi well ..that sounds brilliant - but why is it dependent on some 'gavl' ?? hmm, that's interesting as a hard dependency on gavl makes readanysf~ be pretty much linux only at the moment (despite of what is discussed on other lists...) Yeah, indeed. I was very excited about readanysf~ as I'd huuugely like to be able to load and manipulate MP3s from my library into Pd (I'm quite shocked that this is impossible without manually decoding them outside of Pd right now :O ) Thus I spent a good 4 or 5 hours trying to get gavl/gmerlin_avdec to compile on OS X a few weeks ago with a result of very frustrating failure... Here's hoping that changes one day : | If anyone else is up for working on it together I'd happily put in some more time just so that my hours thus far don't go to waste! Best Luke anyhow, Gem's HEAD has currently a soft dependency on gavl (and gmerlin_avdec) as well, so it is a must anyhow :-) fgmadsr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM pix_image+ram
I don't succeed to use the hottest gem... anyway I will explain some others things I observe about that bug... (using os X 10.5 + pd-0.41.4-extended-20090429) with pix_film and .mov files there is no problem (but there is a problem with still images when pix_film is used as pix_image) with pix_buffer, when the buffer is looped there is no problem when I resize the buffer using [resize $1( the used memory increase if I resize to a buffer with less frames the used-memory decrease...but... each times I resize pix_buffer there is a little bit less ram disponible.. hope this help stefan 2009/4/28 IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at stefan wrote: 2009/4/28 IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at stefan wrote: I get =78 errors better than 90 :-) but I can't manage to use FTGL+freetype2... do you need it? not really, but maybe you need to know the errors I get? well, if you want more than a generic answer: yes :-) are there any other errors you get? I don't think so.. it's simple: if you want text, you need it; else you don't... I always heve these 78 errors... and the build failed obviously, since they are errors (not warnings) fmsdr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM pix_image+ram
stefan wrote: I don't succeed to use the hottest gem... anyway I will explain some others things I observe about that bug... (using os X 10.5 + pd-0.41.4-extended-20090429) with pix_film and .mov files there is no problem (but there is a problem with still images when pix_film is used as pix_image) that is quite interesting, as i think that Gem is agnostic whether [pix_film] opens an image or a film: it just passes the request to QuickTime (which might then return a 1-frame film) with pix_buffer, when the buffer is looped there is no problem when I resize the buffer using [resize $1( the used memory increase if I resize to a buffer with less frames the used-memory decrease...but... each times I resize pix_buffer there is a little bit less ram disponible.. that's something else and more interesting (in terms of fixability) for me. could you please post an example patch that exposes this behaviour? f dasrm IOhannes smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM pix_image+ram
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 7:24 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.atwrote: stefan wrote: I don't succeed to use the hottest gem... anyway I will explain some others things I observe about that bug... (using os X 10.5 + pd-0.41.4-extended-20090429) with pix_film and .mov files there is no problem (but there is a problem with still images when pix_film is used as pix_image) that is quite interesting, as i think that Gem is agnostic whether [pix_film] opens an image or a film: it just passes the request to QuickTime (which might then return a 1-frame film) Yes, the code just opens any file Quicktime recognizes and loads it. This looks like a Quicktime bug. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] readanysf~ v0.30
well ..that sounds brilliant - but why is it dependent on some 'gavl' ?? hmm, that's interesting as a hard dependency on gavl makes readanysf~ be pretty much linux only at the moment (despite of what is discussed on other lists...) Yeah, indeed. I was very excited about readanysf~ as I'd huuugely like to be able to load and manipulate MP3s from my library into Pd (I'm quite shocked that this is impossible without manually decoding them outside of Pd right now :O ) Thus I spent a good 4 or 5 hours trying to get gavl/gmerlin_avdec to compile on OS X a few weeks ago with a result of very frustrating failure... Here's hoping that changes one day : | If anyone else is up for working on it together I'd happily put in some more time just so that my hours thus far don't go to waste! Luke, I'd be willing to help...but I need access to a osx box with gcc and build tools. Where did you leave off? -a ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] readanysf~ v0.30
I think you will see gavl/gmerlin become more standard in the future. Lumiera, the new video editing software from the cinelerra-cv folks, is based on it. and Gem :-) ah, this is good news (for the gavl advocates at least). Are you planning on using it just in linux then? Or, are you looking to make builds for mac and win as well? -a. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM pix_image+ram
here is the patch ++ s. 2009/4/30 IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at stefan wrote: I don't succeed to use the hottest gem... anyway I will explain some others things I observe about that bug... (using os X 10.5 + pd-0.41.4-extended-20090429) with pix_film and .mov files there is no problem (but there is a problem with still images when pix_film is used as pix_image) that is quite interesting, as i think that Gem is agnostic whether [pix_film] opens an image or a film: it just passes the request to QuickTime (which might then return a 1-frame film) with pix_buffer, when the buffer is looped there is no problem when I resize the buffer using [resize $1( the used memory increase if I resize to a buffer with less frames the used-memory decrease...but... each times I resize pix_buffer there is a little bit less ram disponible.. that's something else and more interesting (in terms of fixability) for me. could you please post an example patch that exposes this behaviour? f dasrm IOhannes pix_buffer.pd Description: Binary data ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] readanysf~ v0.30
august wrote: ah, this is good news (for the gavl advocates at least). Are you planning on using it just in linux then? Or, are you looking to make builds for mac and win as well? well, i'm planning to use it on every platform that supports it :-) currently i don't have any plans (nor time to invest), to make gavl/gmerlin work on anything it doesn't already work on (e.g. i will not port gavl to w32) since Gem uses QuckTime on both w32 and osx, i (from my Gem pov) don't see a big need for having gavl on other systems than linux... ghmasdr IOhannes smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pix_multiblob crashing
bra...@subnet.at wrote: Thank you as I am mostly on windows, how can I investigate further with my tracking issue without using eyesweb which i really do not like. get the 0.92CVS20090430 snapshot from http://gem.iem.at and see whether it works... fgmasdr IOhannes smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] DorkbotPDX introduces free Pure Data workshop series
For the location you put PNCA room 205 what does this mean? I looked at the website and still couldn't even figure out what state you are in. -Ben ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] DorkbotPDX introduces free Pure Data workshop series
Great!
What city is Room 205 in again?
:-)
~Kyle
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 11:57 PM, Jason Plumb ja...@noisybox.net wrote:
DorkbotPDX introduces free Pure Data workshop series
We are excited to announce a new workshop series devoted to Pure Data
(Pd). http://puredata.info/
Pd (aka Pure Data) is a real-time graphical programming environment
for audio, video, and graphical processing. It is the third major
branch of the family of patcher programming languages known as Max
(Max/FTS, ISPW Max, Max/MSP, jMax, etc.) originally developed by
Miller Puckette and company at IRCAM.
Pure Data is free [FLOSS] software - meaning there is no charge for
the download and it is open source, (free/libre). It runs wonderfully
on Mac, Linux, Windows - so bring any laptop. Come with Pd-extended
installed if possible - otherwise come a little early for installation
assistance. The workshop is free as well!
We will will be doing several workshops starting from the ground up -
and ranging topics as advanced as there is interest for.
Workshop One will be held May 17th. No prior Pd or programming
knowledge is required, but expect to leave with functional knowledge
of how to use Pd. The outline in progress can be found here:
http://dorkbotpdx.org/wiki/pd_workshop_2009_outline
But we want to hear from you! We'd love to get a rough idea of how
many people are interested in attending.
Do you use Pd? Do you use similar commercial software like Max/MSP? Are
you interested in learning Pd? Why? What are some of your ideas?
Pd is an incredibly open-ended platform so we're trying to get an idea
of where the majority's (if there is a majority) interests lie
Physical Interfaces for music? Live DSP? Generative composition?
Video? Dance? Robotic cat toys? Feedforward most welcome!
Bring a laptop with Pd-extended installed, if possible. Otherwise come
a little early for installation help!
http://puredata.info/downloads
When: May 17th, 2009
Where: PNCA room 205
Time: 1-5pm
See you there!
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Re: [PD] readanysf~ v0.30
Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Yeah, an [anysoundfiler] would be super handy. Almost there already: Search the archive for [oggfiler]: It's an abstraction I once wrote that uses [oggread~] to read oggfiles into tables in an upsampled subpatch. Should be trivial to adapt to readanysf~, and if readanysf~ also reports total length, you can even resize the table if you want. Ciao -- Frank ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] cannot access archives
hi, are the list archives down? I was not able to access http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list for the last 2 days :( marius. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] DorkbotPDX introduces free Pure Data workshop series
Kyle Klipowicz wrote:
What city is Room 205 in again?
The ridicule is well deserved! Sorry for not making it more clear...
The workshop series is organized by Dorkbot PDX (Portland, OR) and the
first session will be held at the Pacific Northwest College of Art (in
Portland, OR).
-jason
DorkbotPDX introduces free Pure Data workshop series
We are excited to announce a new workshop series devoted to Pure Data
(Pd). http://puredata.info/
Pd (aka Pure Data) is a real-time graphical programming environment
for audio, video, and graphical processing. It is the third major
branch of the family of patcher programming languages known as Max
(Max/FTS, ISPW Max, Max/MSP, jMax, etc.) originally developed by
Miller Puckette and company at IRCAM.
Pure Data is free [FLOSS] software - meaning there is no charge for
the download and it is open source, (free/libre). It runs wonderfully
on Mac, Linux, Windows - so bring any laptop. Come with Pd-extended
installed if possible - otherwise come a little early for installation
assistance. The workshop is free as well!
We will will be doing several workshops starting from the ground up -
and ranging topics as advanced as there is interest for.
Workshop One will be held May 17th. No prior Pd or programming
knowledge is required, but expect to leave with functional knowledge
of how to use Pd. The outline in progress can be found here:
http://dorkbotpdx.org/wiki/pd_workshop_2009_outline
But we want to hear from you! We'd love to get a rough idea of how
many people are interested in attending.
Do you use Pd? Do you use similar commercial software like Max/MSP? Are
you interested in learning Pd? Why? What are some of your ideas?
Pd is an incredibly open-ended platform so we're trying to get an idea
of where the majority's (if there is a majority) interests lie
Physical Interfaces for music? Live DSP? Generative composition?
Video? Dance? Robotic cat toys? Feedforward most welcome!
Bring a laptop with Pd-extended installed, if possible. Otherwise come
a little early for installation help!
http://puredata.info/downloads
When: May 17th, 2009
Where: PNCA room 205 - [[in Portland, OR!]]
Time: 1-5pm
See you there!
-jason
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Re: [PD] DorkbotPDX introduces free Pure Data workshop series
interesting - which country? which city? there's nothing about the location of pnca romm 205 on the entire site... On Apr 30, 2009, at 12:57 PM, Jason Plumb wrote: DorkbotPDX introduces free Pure Data workshop series When: May 17th, 2009 Where: PNCA room 205 Time: 1-5pm ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] cannot access archives
Quoting marius schebella marius.schebe...@gmail.com: hi, are the list archives down? I was not able to access http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list for the last 2 days :( works for me. can you connect to the server or does the page give an error? fgmasdr IOhannes This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. binksDwuo1Hss.bin Description: Öffentlicher PGP-Schlüssel ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] cannot access archives
On Apr 30, 2009, at 11:55 AM, zmoel...@iem.at wrote: Quoting marius schebella marius.schebe...@gmail.com: hi, are the list archives down? I was not able to access http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list for the last 2 days :( works for me. can you connect to the server or does the page give an error? fgmasdr IOhannes Works for me. Maybe there is a war between Salzburg and Graz going on. .hc This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. mime-attachment___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Using ReBirth is like trying to play an 808 with a long stick.- David Zicarelli ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] DorkbotPDX introduces free Pure Data workshop series
Thanks for the update. I hope you have a nice turnout.
~Kyle
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Jason Plumb ja...@noisybox.net wrote:
Kyle Klipowicz wrote:
What city is Room 205 in again?
The ridicule is well deserved! Sorry for not making it more clear...
The workshop series is organized by Dorkbot PDX (Portland, OR) and the
first session will be held at the Pacific Northwest College of Art (in
Portland, OR).
-jason
DorkbotPDX introduces free Pure Data workshop series
We are excited to announce a new workshop series devoted to Pure Data
(Pd). http://puredata.info/
Pd (aka Pure Data) is a real-time graphical programming environment
for audio, video, and graphical processing. It is the third major
branch of the family of patcher programming languages known as Max
(Max/FTS, ISPW Max, Max/MSP, jMax, etc.) originally developed by
Miller Puckette and company at IRCAM.
Pure Data is free [FLOSS] software - meaning there is no charge for
the download and it is open source, (free/libre). It runs wonderfully
on Mac, Linux, Windows - so bring any laptop. Come with Pd-extended
installed if possible - otherwise come a little early for installation
assistance. The workshop is free as well!
We will will be doing several workshops starting from the ground up -
and ranging topics as advanced as there is interest for.
Workshop One will be held May 17th. No prior Pd or programming
knowledge is required, but expect to leave with functional knowledge
of how to use Pd. The outline in progress can be found here:
http://dorkbotpdx.org/wiki/pd_workshop_2009_outline
But we want to hear from you! We'd love to get a rough idea of how
many people are interested in attending.
Do you use Pd? Do you use similar commercial software like Max/MSP? Are
you interested in learning Pd? Why? What are some of your ideas?
Pd is an incredibly open-ended platform so we're trying to get an idea
of where the majority's (if there is a majority) interests lie
Physical Interfaces for music? Live DSP? Generative composition?
Video? Dance? Robotic cat toys? Feedforward most welcome!
Bring a laptop with Pd-extended installed, if possible. Otherwise come
a little early for installation help!
http://puredata.info/downloads
When: May 17th, 2009
Where: PNCA room 205 - [[in Portland, OR!]]
Time: 1-5pm
See you there!
-jason
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Re: [PD] readanysf~ v0.30
On Apr 30, 2009, at 8:46 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: august wrote: ah, this is good news (for the gavl advocates at least). Are you planning on using it just in linux then? Or, are you looking to make builds for mac and win as well? well, i'm planning to use it on every platform that supports it :-) currently i don't have any plans (nor time to invest), to make gavl/ gmerlin work on anything it doesn't already work on (e.g. i will not port gavl to w32) since Gem uses QuckTime on both w32 and osx, i (from my Gem pov) don't see a big need for having gavl on other systems than linux... I don't know gavl, but it if it is close to as good as vlc/mplayer/ ffmpeg for reading codecs, it would be an improvement over Quicktime. gavl is already in macports so making a fink package should be easy, then it could be part of the nightly builds. What about using ffmpeg for something like readanysf~? Its much more widely deployed, its even on Windows. Another option is to check in a version of gavl and the related packages to the pure-data SVN and have it build the library then build readanysf~. Since gavl/gmerlin is not fully packaged on any platform, I think this makes sense. .hc If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it.- Thomas Jefferson ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] readanysf~ v0.30
I don't know gavl, but it if it is close to as good as vlc/mplayer/ ffmpeg for reading codecs, it would be an improvement over Quicktime. it is very close to vlc/mplayer/ffmpeg. in fact, it might even read more formats depending on what options you compile in. gavl is already in macports so making a fink package should be easy, then it could be part of the nightly builds. What about using ffmpeg for something like readanysf~? Its much more widely deployed, its even on Windows. the gavl/gmerlin_avdecoder combo uses libavcodec and libavformat from ffmpeg (as does mplayer) to play a lot of encoded audio/video streams. In addition to that, (like mplayer and I assuem VLC) it links in other libs to decode even more types of audio/video streams. Another option is to check in a version of gavl and the related packages to the pure-data SVN and have it build the library then build readanysf~. Since gavl/gmerlin is not fully packaged on any platform, I think this makes sense. yes, and AFAIK the gavl package in debian is already over a year old and is not compatible with readanysf~. -a. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] readanysf~ v0.30
On Apr 30, 2009, at 1:14 PM, august wrote: I don't know gavl, but it if it is close to as good as vlc/mplayer/ ffmpeg for reading codecs, it would be an improvement over Quicktime. it is very close to vlc/mplayer/ffmpeg. in fact, it might even read more formats depending on what options you compile in. gavl is already in macports so making a fink package should be easy, then it could be part of the nightly builds. What about using ffmpeg for something like readanysf~? Its much more widely deployed, its even on Windows. the gavl/gmerlin_avdecoder combo uses libavcodec and libavformat from ffmpeg (as does mplayer) to play a lot of encoded audio/video streams. In addition to that, (like mplayer and I assuem VLC) it links in other libs to decode even more types of audio/video streams. Another option is to check in a version of gavl and the related packages to the pure-data SVN and have it build the library then build readanysf~. Since gavl/gmerlin is not fully packaged on any platform, I think this makes sense. yes, and AFAIK the gavl package in debian is already over a year old and is not compatible with readanysf~. I forgot to mention, the list of libs installed on the MinGW build machine is here: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/mingw It is possible to add more. Basically, you need to import the sources into the 'pure-data/sources' tree in pure-data SVN. That's the tree for the MinGW setup. You can check the import-tarball.sh script to see the process for importing a tarball there. When adding libs, the build-libs-on-mingw.sh script should build and install everything needed. And lastly, on Windows, its best to do SVN operations in Cygwin via ssh, then run builds using MinGW via rdesktop. .hc -a. Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in practice, it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Good sequencer patches for learning?
Hi, Can anybody point me in the direction of good sequencer patches for learning? preferably vanilla or as close to as possible! Thanks in advance, -- John http://www.myspace.com/solenband ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] readanysf~ v0.30
Quoting august aug...@alien.mur.at: I don't know gavl, but it if it is close to as good as vlc/mplayer/ ffmpeg for reading codecs, it would be an improvement over Quicktime. you mean QuickTime or libquicktime (4linux)? as a matter of fact, the author of gavl/gmerlin is also the author of libquicktime (after the fork from heroinewarrior) it is very close to vlc/mplayer/ffmpeg. in fact, it might even read more formats depending on what options you compile in. gavl is already in macports so making a fink package should be easy, then it could be part of the nightly builds. What about using ffmpeg for something like readanysf~? Its much more widely deployed, its even on Windows. gavl/gmerlin is designed as a stable API that uses a number of available backends. writing code for ffmpeg is a nightmare. the API changes every week. writing code for gavl/gmerlin is simple. the ffmpeg-nightmare is delegated to a single-point: gavl. Another option is to check in a version of gavl and the related packages to the pure-data SVN and have it build the library then build readanysf~. Since gavl/gmerlin is not fully packaged on any platform, I think this makes sense. yes, and AFAIK the gavl package in debian is already over a year old and is not compatible with readanysf~. i hope that gavl/gmerlin will be included in (more) distros soon fgsdmr IOhannes This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. binb3a2rFdYwd.bin Description: Öffentlicher PGP-Schlüssel ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] readanysf~ v0.30
Quoting august aug...@alien.mur.at: yes, and AFAIK the gavl package in debian is already over a year old and is not compatible with readanysf~. while the former is true, is the latter also true? iirc, i can compile Gem against both the debian-package and my cvs checkout of gmerlin (though i haven't followed changes in the last month or so) fgamsdr IOhannes This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. binRELeBUSHCz.bin Description: Öffentlicher PGP-Schlüssel ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] readanysf~ v0.30
yes, and AFAIK the gavl package in debian is already over a year old and is not compatible with readanysf~. while the former is true, is the latter also true? iirc, i can compile Gem against both the debian-package and my cvs checkout of gmerlin (though i haven't followed changes in the last month or so) yes, it is true. I made some contributions to gavl last August/September that allows you change the samplerate on the fly. new packages that include this change have not yet been made. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] does [closebang] work?
I was just playing with the [closebang] in Pd-extended, I believe its from a patch from IOhannes. I can't get it to do anything. Anyone know how to use it? .hc Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in practice, it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] readanysf~ v0.30
On Apr 30, 2009, at 10:16 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Yeah, an [anysoundfiler] would be super handy. Almost there already: Search the archive for [oggfiler]: It's an abstraction I once wrote that uses [oggread~] to read oggfiles into tables in an upsampled subpatch. Should be trivial to adapt to readanysf~, and if readanysf~ also reports total length, you can even resize the table if you want. It was not easy to find after all, there were few hits for oggfiler out there, But here it is: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2009-02/068050.html .hc Ciao -- Frank ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Computer science is no more related to the computer than astronomy is related to the telescope. -Edsger Dykstra ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] readanysf~ v0.30
On Apr 30, 2009, at 3:35 PM, zmoel...@iem.at wrote: Quoting august aug...@alien.mur.at: I don't know gavl, but it if it is close to as good as vlc/mplayer/ ffmpeg for reading codecs, it would be an improvement over Quicktime. you mean QuickTime or libquicktime (4linux)? as a matter of fact, the author of gavl/gmerlin is also the author of libquicktime (after the fork from heroinewarrior) I mean Apple Quicktime. VLC and mplayer are already much better for playing movies than Quicktime on Mac OS X so it would be nice if Gem on Mac OS X took advantage of that. it is very close to vlc/mplayer/ffmpeg. in fact, it might even read more formats depending on what options you compile in. gavl is already in macports so making a fink package should be easy, then it could be part of the nightly builds. What about using ffmpeg for something like readanysf~? Its much more widely deployed, its even on Windows. gavl/gmerlin is designed as a stable API that uses a number of available backends. writing code for ffmpeg is a nightmare. the API changes every week. writing code for gavl/gmerlin is simple. the ffmpeg-nightmare is delegated to a single-point: gavl. Ah ok, alles klar, makes sense. Another option is to check in a version of gavl and the related packages to the pure-data SVN and have it build the library then build readanysf~. Since gavl/gmerlin is not fully packaged on any platform, I think this makes sense. yes, and AFAIK the gavl package in debian is already over a year old and is not compatible with readanysf~. i hope that gavl/gmerlin will be included in (more) distros soon In the meantime, I think it would be worth it to have gavl/gmerlin build out of the pure-data SVN. Then we can remove it once its widely packaged. .hc fgsdmr IOhannes This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. mime-attachment I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone. --Bjarne Stroustrup ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] cannot access archives
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Apr 30, 2009, at 11:55 AM, zmoel...@iem.at wrote: Quoting marius schebella marius.schebe...@gmail.com: hi, are the list archives down? I was not able to access http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list for the last 2 days :( works for me. can you connect to the server or does the page give an error? fgmasdr IOhannes Works for me. Maybe there is a war between Salzburg and Graz going on. I am in Canada right now, this must be more a war between the toronto cable monopolist rogers and free software culture, I got redirected with both the http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list page and http://lists.puredata.info... thanks for checking. marius. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] readanysf~ v0.30
i hope that gavl/gmerlin will be included in (more) distros soon In the meantime, I think it would be worth it to have gavl/gmerlin build out of the pure-data SVN. Then we can remove it once its widely packaged. .hc what exactly does that mean? Do you mean compiling it in statically? Or, do you mean compiling and installing the libraries? If you mean statically, I'm not sure, but I think it will be difficult since it is gmerlin based on a plugin architecture of shared objects. -a ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] Inscripciones Abiertas: Taller de Algoritmia Mayo 2009 (Santiago, Chile)
Inscripciones Abiertas: Taller de Algoritmia Mayo 2009 Están abiertas las inscripciones para los módulos: Introducción a Pure Data (Pd) Se tratarán de forma representativa y práctica los temas de instalación, uso y dirección de la herramienta Pd al control lógico de métodos básicos en audio e imagen. Introducción a Métodos en Música y Video-Performance con Pd Se pondrán en practica técnicas de análisis y síntesis de audio e imagen con la herramienta lógica de Pure Data bajo métodos estéticos musicales de escalamiento tonal y análisis del movimiento corporal. Requisito: Introducción a Pure Data. Teoría y Técnica en Música Electroacústica con Pd Se revisará la teoría y técnica en música electrónica bajo los aspectos de síntesis del sonido y su dinámica musical. Métodos en Video-Performance con Pd Se plantearán alternativas prácticas en análisis y síntesis de video para el tratamiento estético a la interpretación mediante el movimiento corporal. Los módulos están compuesto por cuatro alumnos como máximo. Todos los módulos constan de cuatro sesiones de 90 minutos cada uno donde se analizan las técnicas y se ponen en práctica los conocimientos. Mayor información e inscripciones al correo electrónico algoritmia [en] labormedia.cl http://www.labormedia.cl/algoritmia ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
