Re: [PD] gem.conf
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 cyrille henry wrote: IOhannes m zmölnig a écrit : Peter Plessas wrote: Oh, and i just compiled Gem and at loading the lib it posts a message about gem.conf not being found. What is this file? A config file for Gem itself? exactly. i haven't found a way to use Pd's file-opening mechanisms without outputting an error if the file cannot be found. i created an empty file, and i stil have this error. i'm wondering what i can do wrong... any idea? the reason for this is, that Gem looks in several places for the configuration file, and they are merged together. the locations (on a linux system) are: /etc/pd/gem.conf ~/.pd/gem.conf gem.conf (whatever that means; it doesn't know anything about a current canvas but it is searching Pd's path) anyhow: apart from the annoying printout, this should have any effect on the running system. mfgasdr IOhannes Cyrille -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkskxP8ACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvRfywCdEZJNG7NvUZs5o1wz+DtIjzp7 F9UAoOWx7RBGfJI8cOH/V/XPfwiuF5jE =4Dw3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Vowel identification
That is really nice! Do you have this working also in SC? (I am asking because our recent thread about cepstrum in sc list) I will try it soon! Best wishes, josé William Brent escreveu: Hi list, I just put together a simple example patch using a couple of my timbreID externs in order to identify sung vowels. Here's a 30 second movie that demonstrates the patch: http://williambrent.conflations.com/mov/timbreID-vowel.mov I've only played with it a bit, but it seems like it works well within a small pitch range as is. If anyone actually has a need for this at the moment, let me know how it works for you... -- http://zepadovani.info ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Vowel identification
ej william the present need was to irritate my flatmate with my 'singing' - but anyway it works pretty well - very nice! thanks for sharing ø William Brent wrote: Hi list, I just put together a simple example patch using a couple of my timbreID externs in order to identify sung vowels. Here's a 30 second movie that demonstrates the patch: http://williambrent.conflations.com/mov/timbreID-vowel.mov I've only played with it a bit, but it seems like it works well within a small pitch range as is. If anyone actually has a need for this at the moment, let me know how it works for you... -- ETs DNA will not be televised ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pix_mulitblob and matrix
Hi mtx_slice finally fullfills my need to get certain elements like rows/colums of a matrix. might be nice to have this listed in the matrix-help.pd down in the 'see also help for' section? greets ø olsen wrote: IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: olsen wrote: hi thanks to IOhannes indications i'm feeding my pix_mulitblob output into the iemmatrix now. as long as there're enough blobs in the picture it works pretty nice. but as soon as there're less blobs than given in the argument to pix_multiblob i get: error: $43: argument number out of range error: $44: argument number out of range without looking at the patch, i can tell you that this is because you are actually _not_ using iemmatrix for handling the matrix. instead your patch tries to manually parse the data using dollargs and whatelse; which obviously fails if there are too few arguments (because the matrix is too small) indeed i'm using matrix - at least i'm trying to - but i might handle the matrix data the wrong way. i could not find indications within the matrix help on how to handle the data 'correctly' means without gettin this error. so the way i solved it within the attached patch might be stupid, but i'll appreciate any alternative! ... for all the arguments of undetected blobs. and as soon as there's no blob in the picture the pd-shell reports: matrix : corrupt matrix passed this indicates that you _are_ using iemmatrix here. if no blobs are detected, pix_multiblob will output a somewhat illegal matrix with zero rows (and a number of columns). now iemmatrix complains that this is not a legal matrix. probably putting a [mtx_check] helps to get rid of the error (or not) no mtx_check doesn't change it thanks for your help olsen do i do something wrong? no. fgmasdr IOhannes -- ETs DNA will not be televised ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [announce] DarkMatr showing at IMAL
Hello, I just wanted to tell that the project DarkMatr, lead by Tom Heene is showing at IMAL Brussels Belgium this week, This project was entirely made using FLOSS, namely Processing, OpenCV (using a special far IR camera) and PureData for the sound part (which I managed), using on the fly user selected Freesound.org database samples in one sequence, thanks (big thanks) to Patrick (@11h11.com) that debugged the python retriever script from pdmtl lib. You can have more info on this installation on http://darkmatr.be The whole system code is/will be available on the net as soon as we have stabilized it enoegh. Olivier Meunier okno.be ogeem.be ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Vowel identification
Hi José, Nope, no SC implementation for now, just Pd. Thanks for looking... William On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 2:48 AM, josepadovani josepadov...@yahoo.com.br wrote: That is really nice! Do you have this working also in SC? (I am asking because our recent thread about cepstrum in sc list) I will try it soon! Best wishes, josé William Brent escreveu: Hi list, I just put together a simple example patch using a couple of my timbreID externs in order to identify sung vowels. Here's a 30 second movie that demonstrates the patch: http://williambrent.conflations.com/mov/timbreID-vowel.mov I've only played with it a bit, but it seems like it works well within a small pitch range as is. If anyone actually has a need for this at the moment, let me know how it works for you... -- http://zepadovani.info ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- William Brent www.williambrent.com “Great minds flock together” Conflations: conversational idiom for the 21st century www.conflations.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] buiding_pd-extended
Hey Cosmin,Let's keep this on the list for the record. This is the error I just fixed in the Fink package:ld: common symbols not allowed with MH_DYLIB output format with the -multi_module option/sw/lib/libAR.a(arUtil.o) definition of common _arParam (size 136)/sw/lib/libAR.a(arUtil.o) definition of common _arImXsize (size 4)/sw/lib/libAR.a(arUtil.o) definition of common _arImYsize (size 4)/sw/lib/libAR.a(arUtil.o) definition of common _arsMatR2L (size 96)/sw/lib/libAR.a(arUtil.o) definition of common _arsParam (size 360)Put the attached files into/sw/fink/dists/local/main/finkinfo: artoolkit.patch Description: Binary data artoolkit.info Description: Binary data Then run this:fink scanpackagesfink indexfink install artoolkitI submitted it to Fink, but it doesn't work on x86_64 yet, so its not included in Fink yet. It should work fine on PowerPC.http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=2909714group_id=17203atid=414256.hcOn Dec 13, 2009, at 10:59 AM, Cosmin S wrote:From:h...@at.or.atTo:horiacos...@hotmail.comSubject: Re: buiding_pd-extendedDate: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:21:34 -0500Wow, you've made it thru the hardest part, nice work! All that compiling is a pain, makes you appreciate Debian/Ubuntu... anyway, you do need the latest ffmpeg. Since your build is dying on xvid, I would try updating it:libxvid_rc.c: In function 'ff_xvid_rate_control_init':libxvid_rc.c:70: error: 'xvid_plugin_2pass2_t' has no member named 'vbv_size'libxvid_rc.c:71: error: 'xvid_plugin_2pass2_t' has no member named 'vbv_maxrate'libxvid_rc.c:72: error: 'xvid_plugin_2pass2_t' has no member named 'vbv_initial'So try this:fink installxvidcoreThen re-run:fink install ffmpeg.hcOn Dec 12, 2009, at 10:24 AM, Cosmin S wrote:Hey Hans,Three days now that I compile all the dependencies in order to build pd-extended and artoolkit on ppc.All dependencies are building with Fink, exept one: ffmpeg (see the log)So actually I wonder if the unstable version of ffmpeg is absolutely necessary or if I shoud try with the stable one.Have you encountered this issue by the past?Best,CosminPC, téléphones portables, souris hi-tech. à gagner grâce à Hotmail !C'est ici !ffmpeg_error.txt¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido!Gagnez au cadeau par jour avec Hotmail Magic Moment !Cliquez ici !pd-ext_error.txt Mistrust authority - promote decentralization. - the hacker ethic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gem.conf (was: Re: bug 2621932 appeared in version 0.42)
On Dec 11, 2009, at 9:17 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Peter Plessas wrote: Oh, and i just compiled Gem and at loading the lib it posts a message about gem.conf not being found. What is this file? A config file for Gem itself? exactly. i haven't found a way to use Pd's file-opening mechanisms without outputting an error if the file cannot be found. (but iirc, it only writes to stderr - if not using -verbose; so most people probably won't notice) it's meant as a replacement for all the weird envvariables that are in use now. you can use it set the single-context, default font, default window size and the like. the format is very simple (but different from Pd's rcfile/settings). one key/value pair by line. e.g. snip font.face /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera/Vera.ttf window.width 800 window.height 600 window.x 1024 window.y 0 window.border 0 /snip ideas on which things should be settable with this mechanism are welcome. mgfasdr IOhannes Why introduce a new method of configuration when you can do this all with Pd messages? It seems to me to overcomplicate things for a tiny gain. Gem is already complicated as it is, now there is yet another way to configure it: messages, env vars, and a special conf file. I don't see any reason why this all can't be handled by messages and a [loadbang]. .hc We have nothing to fear from love and commitment. - New York Senator Diane Savino, trying to convince the NY Senate to pass a gay marriage bill ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] documenting new vanilla objects WAS: bug 2621932 appeared in version 0.42
On Dec 11, 2009, at 9:21 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: This is the same version in which a feature was introduced such that when you create a new object with another one selected, a connection between the two is automatically created (btw am I the only one who thinks that feature is absolutely annoying?). Dunnow if it is a coincidence or if there may be a relation... it might also be related to the introduction of the (somewhat annoying) [wrap] object. might be a coincidence though...:-) It would be good to have those additions documented. I started with what I know: http://wiki.puredata.info/en/History_of_new_objects_in_Pd-vanilla Perhaps the page could be called just new objects in Pd-vanilla. There could also be New objects in Gem, etc. .hc News is what people want to keep hidden and everything else is publicity. - Bill Moyers ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Surround 5.1 Granulation 4.0 PD Patch Now Public
Nice patch! The granulator works quite smoothly. I don't have 5.1 so I can comment on that part. I am curious how you used that in video game sound? ,hc On Dec 11, 2009, at 7:37 PM, Freaky DNA wrote: Hi all, I've uploaded a new sampled sound granulation patch to my website at: http://www.VideoGameAudio.com/ under the 'patches' section: http://www.sfu.ca/~leonardp/VideoGameAudio/main.htm#patches It granulates a loaded sample and allows the grains to be distributed in 5.1 surround. It should be fairly easy for you to use the surround or granulation code in your own work. Let me know if it is useful to you and perhaps give credit when appropriate. I presented it as part of a demonstration at the GameSoundCon in San Francisco in November 2009 and had several people ask for the code, so here it is. If you're interested in further updates related to using Pure Data with video game audio, you can have a look at : http://twitter.com/VideoGameAudio . Cheers, Leonard J. Paul / VideoGameAudio.com ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone. --Bjarne Stroustrup (creator of C++) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gem.conf
Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : Why introduce a new method of configuration when you can do this all with Pd messages? It seems to me to overcomplicate things for a tiny gain. Gem is already complicated as it is, now there is yet another way to configure it: messages, env vars, and a special conf file. I don't see any reason why this all can't be handled by messages and a [loadbang]. the nice thing is that you don't have to use it if you don't like it i will not use it because i also prefer the everything in one patch : you have less surprises when sharing patches. (that is also why i think a good patch is a patch that could start with -nopref flag on pd startup) but i would understand someone that set gemwin framerate at 50 fps because the default 20 fps is a nonsense... cyrille .hc We have nothing to fear from love and commitment. - New York Senator Diane Savino, trying to convince the NY Senate to pass a gay marriage bill ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gem.conf
the reason for this is, that Gem looks in several places for the configuration file, and they are merged together. the locations (on a linux system) are: /etc/pd/gem.conf ~/.pd/gem.conf gem.conf (whatever that means; it doesn't know anything about a current canvas but it is searching Pd's path) ok. after creating a 3rd empty file, Gem did not create an error any more. anyhow: apart from the annoying printout, this should have any effect on the running system. yes, but i don't like annoying printout. thanks c mfgasdr IOhannes Cyrille -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkskxP8ACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvRfywCdEZJNG7NvUZs5o1wz+DtIjzp7 F9UAoOWx7RBGfJI8cOH/V/XPfwiuF5jE =4Dw3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Surround 5.1 Granulation 4.0 PD Patch Now Public
Hi Hans, Good to hear from you, great work on PD extended - it was much more difficult to use before you cleaned things up! I've been using this patch as a demonstration on how to use granulation with games (there's some examples in my more recent videos). Granulation is a great way to cut down on repetition and plenty of other reasons. I use the surround part when I to show how sounds can move through space in surround and found it was a great addition to using granulation. The interesting thing about using granulation and surround is that you can take a mono (or stereo, etc..) sound and potentially diffuse it into surround space by allocating the grains all different x,y positions (definitely good for wind and water). The patch does this in a simple way by spawning grains at the current x,y position and so when you move the position rapidly then the grains trail the position. If you're interested in more on granulation and games, you might also have a look at my site : http://www.VideoGameAudio.com . I have archived several talks and papers that I have done on the subject of game audio. More questions are always welcome as well! I'd like for more people to have access to the patch, do you know of other PD lists I should post it on? Cheers, Leonard - Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009 11:46 am Subject: Re: [PD-announce] Surround 5.1 Granulation 4.0 PD Patch Now Public To: PD list pd-list@iem.at, Freaky DNA freaky...@shaw.ca Nice patch! The granulator works quite smoothly. I don't have 5.1 so I can comment on that part. I am curious how you used that in video game sound? ,hc On Dec 11, 2009, at 7:37 PM, Freaky DNA wrote: Hi all, I've uploaded a new sampled sound granulation patch to my website at: http://www.VideoGameAudio.com/ under the 'patches' section: http://www.sfu.ca/~leonardp/VideoGameAudio/main.htm#patches It granulates a loaded sample and allows the grains to be distributed in 5.1 surround. It should be fairly easy for you to use the surround or granulation code in your own work. Let me know if it is useful to you and perhaps give credit when appropriate. I presented it as part of a demonstration at the GameSoundCon in San Francisco in November 2009 and had several people ask for the code, so here it is. If you're interested in further updates related to using Pure Data with video game audio, you can have a look at : http://twitter.com/VideoGameAudio . Cheers, Leonard J. Paul / VideoGameAudio.com ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce - --- I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone. --Bjarne Stroustrup (creator of C++) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Surround 5.1 Granulation 4.0 PD Patch Now Public
Freaky DNA schreef: I'd like for more people to have access to the patch, do you know of other PD lists I should post it on? http://puredata.hurleur.com/ mik ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gem.conf
On Dec 13, 2009, at 3:11 PM, cyrille henry wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : Why introduce a new method of configuration when you can do this all with Pd messages? It seems to me to overcomplicate things for a tiny gain. Gem is already complicated as it is, now there is yet another way to configure it: messages, env vars, and a special conf file. I don't see any reason why this all can't be handled by messages and a [loadbang]. the nice thing is that you don't have to use it if you don't like it i will not use it because i also prefer the everything in one patch : you have less surprises when sharing patches. (that is also why i think a good patch is a patch that could start with -nopref flag on pd startup) I totally agree, we should be working towards everything in the patch, and they should work with pd -nopref. Sure, no one has to use it, but if someone does use it, and then you want to use their patch, then you have to use but i would understand someone that set gemwin framerate at 50 fps because the default 20 fps is a nonsense... cyrille Isn't that changed by doing [gemwin 50]? That doesn't seem so hard that a gem.conf is needed. .hc http://at.or.at/hans/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] documenting new vanilla objects WAS: bug 2621932 appeared in version 0.42
it would be nice to have *all* vanilla objects documented on one page. I am thinking of putting all objects right at the front page of wiki.puredata.info. very much the way processing does it. http://processing.org/reference/ marius. Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Dec 11, 2009, at 9:21 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: This is the same version in which a feature was introduced such that when you create a new object with another one selected, a connection between the two is automatically created (btw am I the only one who thinks that feature is absolutely annoying?). Dunnow if it is a coincidence or if there may be a relation... it might also be related to the introduction of the (somewhat annoying) [wrap] object. might be a coincidence though...:-) It would be good to have those additions documented. I started with what I know: http://wiki.puredata.info/en/History_of_new_objects_in_Pd-vanilla Perhaps the page could be called just new objects in Pd-vanilla. There could also be New objects in Gem, etc. .hc News is what people want to keep hidden and everything else is publicity. - Bill Moyers ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gem.conf
but i would understand someone that set gemwin framerate at 50 fps because the default 20 fps is a nonsense... Isn't that changed by doing [gemwin 50]? That doesn't seem so hard that a gem.conf is needed. or a loadbang to an fps message ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] documenting new vanilla objects WAS: bug 2621932 appeared in version 0.42
Ask and you shall receive: http://wiki.puredata.info/en/Category:vanilla It needs a little updating, but its there as of version 0.41. .hc On Dec 13, 2009, at 7:33 PM, marius schebella wrote: it would be nice to have *all* vanilla objects documented on one page. I am thinking of putting all objects right at the front page of wiki.puredata.info. very much the way processing does it. http://processing.org/reference/ marius. Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Dec 11, 2009, at 9:21 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: This is the same version in which a feature was introduced such that when you create a new object with another one selected, a connection between the two is automatically created (btw am I the only one who thinks that feature is absolutely annoying?). Dunnow if it is a coincidence or if there may be a relation... it might also be related to the introduction of the (somewhat annoying) [wrap] object. might be a coincidence though...:-) It would be good to have those additions documented. I started with what I know: http://wiki.puredata.info/en/History_of_new_objects_in_Pd-vanilla Perhaps the page could be called just new objects in Pd-vanilla. There could also be New objects in Gem, etc. .hc News is what people want to keep hidden and everything else is publicity. - Bill Moyers ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it.- Thomas Jefferson ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] building pd from CVS
hi i get this error ld: library not found for -lcrt1.10.5.o collect2: ld returned 1 exit status ld: library not found for -lcrt1.10.5.o collect2: ld returned 1 exit status lipo: can't open input file: /var/folders/Sx/Sx0Ig0-VHficnrDc8gZ1aE+++TI/-Tmp-//ccIG5uyz.out (No such file or directory) make: *** [../bin/pd-watchdog] Error 1 when tying to build pd from source. I am on 10.5.8 OSX. Do i have the wrong developer tools? Or is there a workround for this? thanks pp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Vowel identification
Hey William, Looks quite nice, I like the shimmering letters of bangs too! .hc On Dec 13, 2009, at 2:43 AM, William Brent wrote: Hi list, I just put together a simple example patch using a couple of my timbreID externs in order to identify sung vowels. Here's a 30 second movie that demonstrates the patch: http://williambrent.conflations.com/mov/timbreID-vowel.mov I've only played with it a bit, but it seems like it works well within a small pitch range as is. If anyone actually has a need for this at the moment, let me know how it works for you... -- William Brent www.williambrent.com “Great minds flock together” Conflations: conversational idiom for the 21st century www.conflations.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Access to computers should be unlimited and total. - the hacker ethic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] building pd from CVS
You need to disable building universal: ./configure --disable-fat .hc On Dec 14, 2009, at 12:10 AM, Pagano, Patrick wrote: hi i get this error ld: library not found for -lcrt1.10.5.o collect2: ld returned 1 exit status ld: library not found for -lcrt1.10.5.o collect2: ld returned 1 exit status lipo: can't open input file: /var/folders/Sx/Sx0Ig0-VHficnrDc8gZ1aE++ +TI/-Tmp-//ccIG5uyz.out (No such file or directory) make: *** [../bin/pd-watchdog] Error 1 when tying to build pd from source. I am on 10.5.8 OSX. Do i have the wrong developer tools? Or is there a workround for this? thanks pp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list You can't steal a gift. Bird gave the world his music, and if you can hear it, you can have it. - Dizzy Gillespie ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list