Re: [PD] A present

2009-12-30 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 
 zexy's [wrap] gets it wrong by having only two inlets and using a list
 to set the min/max.  

zexy's [wrap] doesn't get it wrong if you follow the true church.

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Re: [PD] A present

2009-12-30 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Maybe we can all agree that this is a good reason to use name spaces?

~Kyle

2009/12/30 IOhannes zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at

 Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 
  zexy's [wrap] gets it wrong by having only two inlets and using a list
  to set the min/max.

 zexy's [wrap] doesn't get it wrong if you follow the true church.

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[PD] [texunit ...( to [pix_texture]

2009-12-30 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette

Hi,

Where's the [textunit( message for the [pix_texture] object documented?

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[PD] msgfile doesn't print a full stop after a number..?

2009-12-30 Thread James Dunn
Hi,

I've noticed that that msgfile doesn't seem to print a full stop (period)
after a number. I'm using Pd version 0.42.5-extended-20091228 on Ubuntu 9.10
and am sending the message [read filename.txt cr (. The console reports
msgfile as [msgfile] part of zexy-2.2.3 (compiled: Dec 28 2009)

Is this normal? For the time being, I've added a ¬ character after the
number (which isn't printed) to enable the full stop to be printed.

thanks

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Re: [PD] select audio midi from patch

2009-12-30 Thread mark edward grimm
... continuing this thread:
http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-09/064895.html

maybe there is a thread more recent than Mon Sep 8 04:06:35 CEST 2008 on this?

Anyway I am on OSX pd-extended 10.6.2. The attached patch seems to
work 'ok'. BUT for some reason 1) I have to bang the message twice to
load the midi settings in the dialog box and 2) I have to click
apply and/or OK for these setting to take effect. I would like to
automatically change the settings when the patch is loaded without
banging twice and hitting 'ok' in the properties menu

sorry. but i couldn't find more recent documentation on this

Cheers!
mark


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[PD] [wrap] holy war was A present

2009-12-30 Thread Andrew Faraday

I've nothing much to say on this matter, but it's becoming a bit conflicty so I 
thought I'd change the topic title

Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:35:00 -0600
From: kylek...@gmail.com
To: zmoel...@iem.at
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Subject: Re: [PD] A present

Maybe we can all agree that this is a good reason to use name spaces?

~Kyle

2009/12/30 IOhannes zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at

Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:



 zexy's [wrap] gets it wrong by having only two inlets and using a list

 to set the min/max.



zexy's [wrap] doesn't get it wrong if you follow the true church.



fgmadsr

IOhannes




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Re: [PD] compiling pd vanilla problems on OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard

2009-12-30 Thread Rich E
I listed some notes about the problems I was having with the gui rewrite,
most problematic is that you can't navigate in text with arrows.  Should I
file bug reports or is the list fine for this?

pd-gui-rewrite compiled with tcl/tk 8.5, but vanilla/extended ships with
8.4.  I'd like to compile them with 8.5 to see if that is adding the
functionality.

both versions of libPdTCL.dylib, compiled and from the dmg, are i386 32-bit.
 I don't know why the compiled version complains that this is the wrong
architecture while the dmg version doesn't.

Has anyone compiled a working version of pd vanilla in Snow Leopard? Jaime?

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote:


 On Dec 28, 2009, at 1:19 PM, Rich E wrote:

 Hans,

 The gui rewrite version works fine on my computer, but I need
 Pd-Vanilla/Extented for testing purposes.  Not to mention, there are various
 small bugs in the gui rewrite branch that make it difficult to use when I'm
 making music.


 Please report them, so that I can fix them.  Now's the time for the final
 push on the new GUI code since Miller is working on tying it all into the
 0.43 release.

 The problem is also that the wacom external I am working with * only *
 works with the pd-gui-rewrite branch, but I don't know if that is because I
 compiled it from source (with maybe a different version of Tcl/Tk) or
 because you re-wrote the Tk code to use Apple Events in a different way.


 I didn't really do anything explicit with Apple Events, but it is a
 ground-up rewrite.  Depending on where you got your build, it could be using
 Tcl/Tk 8.5.  You can check that with the [hcs/tcl_version] object.

 About 64-bit, I've decided to just compile all my music software as 32-bit
 for now, it seems to be too early for most apps still to run everything as
 64-bit (and no real gain any way).  Most everything pre-compiled (ex.
 pd-extended) is 32-bit, anyway.

 So, that said, anyone have any suggestions on what is going wrong with my
 libPdTcl.dylib? The version included with Pd-extended is also i386, yet tk
 doesn't complain about it when running Wish...


 Run file libPdTcl.dylib to see what kind of binary it is.  That whole
 thing is such a kludge... I shudder to even think about it.  Plus its
 totally gone in 0.43.  As for 64-bit, that's something we do need to get
 fixed.

 .hc


 Rich

 On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote:


 Try the 0.43/pd-gui-rewrite branch, with the new autotools build system.
  I think it should build properly on Mac OS X 64-bit:

 http://puredata.info/dev/PdGuiRewrite

 If not, report problems here and I try to fix them and commit them.

 .hc

 On Dec 27, 2009, at 10:25 AM, Rich E wrote:

 On I go.

 Loading /usr/bin/wish turns out to be 64bit, but running pd from Miller's
 pre-built app (or Pd-extended pre-built) creates a 32bit version.  When
 compiling from source, I am making libPdTcl.dylib 32bit, but wish's 'load'
 function thinks this is the wrong architecture - I think then that wish
 needs to be run as 32bit, but I can't figure out how to do this or how the
 pre-built app is doing this.  I can't find any doc's on that load function,
 either (line 67 of pd.tk).

 I'm just shooting in the dark here, trying to conjure up some advice.  I
 need to get pd compiled from source to work on an external.

 Rich

 On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 12:29 AM, Rich E reakina...@gmail.com wrote:

 I hope someone can help me fix the last problem on this list, it is
 blocking me (libPdTcl.dylib wrong architecture).  I can't see why it is
 detected as the wrong architecture, everything I check says it is i386
 compatible.

 I did remove alot from the configure.in file trying to get it work, so
 maybe there is a problem there.  It is attached.

 merry christmas, feliz navidad és boldog karácsonzyt (i think I may have
 barely missed it in my time)!

 - rich


 On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 4:44 AM, Rich E reakina...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I am having problems compiling pd from Miller's website in OS X Snow
 Leopard.  Basically, Pd fell behind Apple's updates.  Here are my problems,
 fixes where I found them:

 - the configure script automatically adds -isysroot blah blah for the
 10.4 sdk, which doesn't work.  this line is removed.
 - the included portaudio (and more importantly, its coreaudio
 components) with pd does not match the coreaudio framework included with
 Snow Leopard.  There are lots of deprecations and finally undeclared
 methods.  I tried just updating the source code from that in portaudio's
 svn, but this led to further undefined calls that I don't remember.
 - using '-disable-portaudio' doesn't do any good because it is
 automatically added if you are on OS X (I wanted to just use jack since
 portaudio is outdated).
 - I had to remove all '-arch' flags except i386 to get everything
 linked.

 Okay, after that, it compiled. whew. Still, pd's gui will not run
 because libPdTcl.dylib either isn't found or is the 

Re: [PD] A present

2009-12-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


On Dec 30, 2009, at 1:49 AM, IOhannes zmölnig wrote:


Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


zexy's [wrap] gets it wrong by having only two inlets and using a  
list

to set the min/max.


zexy's [wrap] doesn't get it wrong if you follow the true church.



I'm heretic... no religion at all.  Which true church do you mean?

.hc






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Re: [PD] select audio midi from patch

2009-12-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


Check out hcs/get-audio-dialog and hcs/get-midi-dialog, they are  
included in Pd-extended.


.hc

On Dec 30, 2009, at 2:34 PM, mark edward grimm wrote:


... continuing this thread:
http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-09/064895.html

maybe there is a thread more recent than Mon Sep 8 04:06:35 CEST  
2008 on this?


Anyway I am on OSX pd-extended 10.6.2. The attached patch seems to
work 'ok'. BUT for some reason 1) I have to bang the message twice to
load the midi settings in the dialog box and 2) I have to click
apply and/or OK for these setting to take effect. I would like to
automatically change the settings when the patch is loaded without
banging twice and hitting 'ok' in the properties menu

sorry. but i couldn't find more recent documentation on this

Cheers!
mark
 
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Re: [PD] A present

2009-12-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


I can definitely agree there!

.hc

On Dec 30, 2009, at 12:35 PM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote:


Maybe we can all agree that this is a good reason to use name spaces?

~Kyle

2009/12/30 IOhannes zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

 zexy's [wrap] gets it wrong by having only two inlets and using a  
list

 to set the min/max.

zexy's [wrap] doesn't get it wrong if you follow the true church.

fgmadsr
IOhannes


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Re: [PD] compiling pd vanilla problems on OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard

2009-12-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


You can start with just posting a list here, then depending on what it  
is, they can be posted in the bug tracker.


.hc

On Dec 30, 2009, at 7:09 PM, Rich E wrote:

I listed some notes about the problems I was having with the gui  
rewrite, most problematic is that you can't navigate in text with  
arrows.  Should I file bug reports or is the list fine for this?


pd-gui-rewrite compiled with tcl/tk 8.5, but vanilla/extended ships  
with 8.4.  I'd like to compile them with 8.5 to see if that is  
adding the functionality.


both versions of libPdTCL.dylib, compiled and from the dmg, are i386  
32-bit.  I don't know why the compiled version complains that this  
is the wrong architecture while the dmg version doesn't.


Has anyone compiled a working version of pd vanilla in Snow Leopard?  
Jaime?


On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner  
h...@at.or.at wrote:


On Dec 28, 2009, at 1:19 PM, Rich E wrote:


Hans,

The gui rewrite version works fine on my computer, but I need Pd- 
Vanilla/Extented for testing purposes.  Not to mention, there are  
various small bugs in the gui rewrite branch that make it difficult  
to use when I'm making music.


Please report them, so that I can fix them.  Now's the time for the  
final push on the new GUI code since Miller is working on tying it  
all into the 0.43 release.


The problem is also that the wacom external I am working with *  
only * works with the pd-gui-rewrite branch, but I don't know if  
that is because I compiled it from source (with maybe a different  
version of Tcl/Tk) or because you re-wrote the Tk code to use Apple  
Events in a different way.


I didn't really do anything explicit with Apple Events, but it is a  
ground-up rewrite.  Depending on where you got your build, it could  
be using Tcl/Tk 8.5.  You can check that with the [hcs/tcl_version]  
object.


About 64-bit, I've decided to just compile all my music software as  
32-bit for now, it seems to be too early for most apps still to run  
everything as 64-bit (and no real gain any way).  Most everything  
pre-compiled (ex. pd-extended) is 32-bit, anyway.


So, that said, anyone have any suggestions on what is going wrong  
with my libPdTcl.dylib? The version included with Pd-extended is  
also i386, yet tk doesn't complain about it when running Wish...


Run file libPdTcl.dylib to see what kind of binary it is.  That  
whole thing is such a kludge... I shudder to even think about it.   
Plus its totally gone in 0.43.  As for 64-bit, that's something we  
do need to get fixed.


.hc



Rich

On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 
 wrote:


Try the 0.43/pd-gui-rewrite branch, with the new autotools build  
system.  I think it should build properly on Mac OS X 64-bit:


http://puredata.info/dev/PdGuiRewrite

If not, report problems here and I try to fix them and commit them.

.hc

On Dec 27, 2009, at 10:25 AM, Rich E wrote:


On I go.

Loading /usr/bin/wish turns out to be 64bit, but running pd from  
Miller's pre-built app (or Pd-extended pre-built) creates a 32bit  
version.  When compiling from source, I am making libPdTcl.dylib  
32bit, but wish's 'load' function thinks this is the wrong  
architecture - I think then that wish needs to be run as 32bit,  
but I can't figure out how to do this or how the pre-built app is  
doing this.  I can't find any doc's on that load function, either  
(line 67 of pd.tk).


I'm just shooting in the dark here, trying to conjure up some  
advice.  I need to get pd compiled from source to work on an  
external.


Rich

On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 12:29 AM, Rich E reakina...@gmail.com  
wrote:
I hope someone can help me fix the last problem on this list, it  
is blocking me (libPdTcl.dylib wrong architecture).  I can't see  
why it is detected as the wrong architecture, everything I check  
says it is i386 compatible.


I did remove alot from the configure.in file trying to get it  
work, so maybe there is a problem there.  It is attached.


merry christmas, feliz navidad és boldog karácsonzyt (i think I  
may have barely missed it in my time)!


- rich


On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 4:44 AM, Rich E reakina...@gmail.com  
wrote:

Hi,

I am having problems compiling pd from Miller's website in OS X  
Snow Leopard.  Basically, Pd fell behind Apple's updates.  Here  
are my problems, fixes where I found them:


- the configure script automatically adds -isysroot blah blah for  
the 10.4 sdk, which doesn't work.  this line is removed.
- the included portaudio (and more importantly, its coreaudio  
components) with pd does not match the coreaudio framework  
included with Snow Leopard.  There are lots of deprecations and  
finally undeclared methods.  I tried just updating the source code  
from that in portaudio's svn, but this led to further undefined  
calls that I don't remember.
- using '-disable-portaudio' doesn't do any good because it is  
automatically added if you are on OS X (I wanted to just use jack