Re: [PD] Pd convention~ Application
great Max!! Looking forward to further developments, funding are always tricky. Can I ask what kind of funding you are applying to? Is it an Eu fund? Dear community, I'd like to present Weimar as an applicant to host the Pure Data convention 2011 to you all. -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher Ongoing MSc by Research, University of Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pix_record problem
Hello all, I am still teaching myself how to get good output from GEM, I am working now with a formant vocoder which feeds values into a video composition of 5 rectangles. It renders the rectangles as I want it to, but when I export it via pix_record, it only saves the top rectangle, and rotated 180 degrees and in slow-motion. So strange... I have tried several objects as an in-between, now I have pix_dump, because I thought it might have to do with the 5 different pix_crops, and needed them to go through one device to the rectangle. So how can I get the entire window to save properly to the disk (I have read in the forums that many people experience problems with the color.. this is not my problem here.) I would like to avoid using screen capture from an external. I have attached the patch as is.. there are two bangs which need to be activated before starting the rendering. Thanks! Michael Example.pd Description: Binary data ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pix_record problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-01-20 15:04, Michael Karr wrote: Hello all, I am still teaching myself how to get good output from GEM, I am working now with a formant vocoder which feeds values into a video composition of 5 rectangles. It renders the rectangles as I want it to, but when I export it via pix_record, it only saves the top rectangle, and rotated 180 degrees and [pix_record] takes the current pix as input for recording. (there can only be a single current pix) if you want to record the contents of you gemwindow, you have to first grab the framebuffer and convert it into a pix, use [pix_snap] for that. fgamdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk04RhsACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvQW8wCgv/HnqZoQuRwFnABKxv8X08+5 MwQAn1gEi+1AG8hlGqkO6R/J2RwSu1fn =TPyr -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pix_record problem
I don't know why you use [pix_dump] in your patch. And i am not sure what you want to do but i guess you need send your [pix_crop] in different rectangles. Then capture with [pix_snap] the entire gem window, then record this capture with [pix_record]. I strongly recommend you start to see 02.advanced examples in the GEM section to understand how render order and capture work. ++ Jack Le jeudi 20 janvier 2011 à 15:04 +0100, Michael Karr a écrit : Hello all, I am still teaching myself how to get good output from GEM, I am working now with a formant vocoder which feeds values into a video composition of 5 rectangles. It renders the rectangles as I want it to, but when I export it via pix_record, it only saves the top rectangle, and rotated 180 degrees and in slow-motion. So strange... I have tried several objects as an in-between, now I have pix_dump, because I thought it might have to do with the 5 different pix_crops, and needed them to go through one device to the rectangle. So how can I get the entire window to save properly to the disk (I have read in the forums that many people experience problems with the color.. this is not my problem here.) I would like to avoid using screen capture from an external. I have attached the patch as is.. there are two bangs which need to be activated before starting the rendering. Thanks! Michael ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd convention~ Application
On Thu, 20 Jan 2011, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: now let's (not) wait for the other applicants until the final deadline. What's the final deadline ? ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd convention~ Application
I propose hosting a video stream of the convention (as much as possible anyway). I can provide an icecast server for the duration, or there's always ustream. Ben Baker-Smith -- http://bitsynthesis.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Strange bug between GEM and MSD ?
Hello, All works fine at the beginning. When i send [draw line] to [circle], that change the behavior of the masses and links in MSD. Did you have a similar problem ? ++ Jack signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd convention~ Application
Video streaming would be nice, but the hard part is the crew to run the streaming. The DebConf Video Team is large and very organized, and a great model for this. Anyone want to take this on? .hc On Jan 20, 2011, at 10:58 AM, Ben Baker-Smith wrote: I propose hosting a video stream of the convention (as much as possible anyway). I can provide an icecast server for the duration, or there's always ustream. Ben Baker-Smith -- http://bitsynthesis.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list We have nothing to fear from love and commitment. - New York Senator Diane Savino, trying to convince the NY Senate to pass a gay marriage bill ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd convention~ Application
Yay Max! Sounds like the first thing for us to help with is fund
raising. I'll see what I can do. I'm going to talk to the DebConf-
NYC people, they were quite good at getting money.
.hc
On Jan 19, 2011, at 7:49 PM, Max wrote:
Dear community,
I'd like to present Weimar as an applicant to host the Pure Data
convention 2011 to you all.
Who we are:
The Bauhaus-University and the Liszt School of Music are jointly
organizing the convention. Responsible Organizers will be Max
Neupert of the chair Design of Medial Environments in the Media Art
Design Programme of the Universitiy and {name to put here will be
official on monday after meeting} of the chair Electroacoustic
Composition and Sounddesign at the Studio for electroacoustic Music
of the Liszt School. A team of students will take responsibility for
some aspects of planning and realization.
When:
The convention is scheduled from Monday the 8th to Sunday the 14th
of August 2011.
Please highlight this in your calendars right now!
Programme:
In the tradition of the previous installments of the convention we
will feature an academic conference, workshops and master-classes,
concerts and performances and an exhibition.
The conference will be in the mornings from tuesday to friday and
will feature paper presentations of a soon to be released open call.
Workshops will be presented in conjunction with the Bauhaus Summer
School and will feature parallel sessions in the after-noons in
different levels and interests.
Concerts will take place depending on their nature either in the
exquisitely equipped Studio or in a more club like environment tba.
Exhibition space will be arranged according to the the works
selected by a committee of curators and community members.
I've met with members of the Berlin Pd community yesterday and we
discussed the possibility to feature a closing event of the
convention in Berlin.
Collaborations:
The convention seeks to collaborate with the established local
institutions as much as possible. The festival for new music will
offer opportunities for cooperation. A local community radio will
feature a platform for publicity as well as for experiments with
this medium (think of using the radio to open a feed-back channel
(literal and figurative speaking) to a program or controlling
devices in the city through audio signal over the radio). The
townhall features a porcelain carillon which can be controlled by
midi (think of procedural compositions for this instrument or
interactive works controlling the bells through phones). A soon to
be inaugurated one million euro organ will be installed in a
catholic church, owned by the Liszt School - this instrument is midi
capable as well and could be used for a concert evening. We also
seek collaboration with IOSONO a company from nearby Erfurt who
develops and produces wavefield synthesis systems for a hands-on in
sound spacialization. I have also talked to Electronic Arts and
Reality Jockey to become partners for this event.
This just to give you a few ideas on what we have in mind.
Community:
If you are eager to join us organizing this, from making coffee to
taking responsibility for a whole section of it: Great! Now is the
time to get in touch with me.
Money:
In addition to my work, the University will cover for another small
contract and select students involved will get a little expense
allowance. The Liszt School will sponsor tech equipment and the
space. The Bauhaus Summer School will promote and fund the
workshops. There is no money (yet) to promise travel and lodging for
the participants, nor any other production costs, but we have a few
applications for funding in the pipeline. The funding rally has
started, any support is welcome. Write your application to your arts
council now, we'll be happy to support you with papers, invitations
etc.
The city:
Weimar is a 65.000 inhabitants city in the state of Thuringia, in
central Germany, about half way between Frankfurt (Germany's airport
hub) and Berlin. Weimar is a cultural city and a mayor tourist
destination, offering countless places of interest. Goethe, Schiller
and and Herder have created the Weimar Classicism through their
legacy, Nietzsche and Liszt have lived here (Weimar celebrates
Liszts 200th birthday this year). The iconic movement of the
modernism - the Bauhaus - was founded in Weimar and the original
buildings still exist, hosting the University which proudly extends
the historic Bauhaus' tradition. The painful and dark side of german
history has left unrepairable scars in the cities vicinity: the
concentration camp Buchenwald stands for the systematic extinction
of the european jews. Close to this site the soviets built a
memorial in gigantic dimensions and a martial aesthetic which has an
eerie affinity with the fascist style.
Accomodation:
We've made a deal with a friendly hostel
Re: [PD] HID in Ubuntu 10.04
The [hid] code is the same, perhaps something you set up before just took effect with the updates. Did you follow the HID on Ubuntu docs on puredata.info? .hc On Jan 18, 2011, at 12:13 PM, Pierre Massat wrote: Now i'm scared to let Ubuntu install the latest updates... 2011/1/18 Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com Hello, I recently mentioned in a post that i had to run pd as root in order to use HID. I just opened the hid object in ubuntu 10.04, without running pd a root, and much to my surprise it works flawlessly with my gamepad. Is the ubuntu distro just getting insanely awesome or what? I can use HID without being root and i get a 5ms latency without having to install a patched rt kernel. Is this heaven? Please pinch me. Seriously, regarding HID, is this a security issue that will be fixed in the next updates or is it permanently there? Or did Hans fix something in the code? I'm happy right now. Pierre ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list We have nothing to fear from love and commitment. - New York Senator Diane Savino, trying to convince the NY Senate to pass a gay marriage bill ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] HID in Ubuntu 10.04
Thanks for your reply Hans. No, i didn't do anything at all! I just installed plain Ubuntu 10.04, downloaded and installed Pd-extended 42.5, and some ubuntu studio packages, period. Do you think it's safe to update ubuntu, or is there a risk that it spoils everything? I think it's weird because i've read that hid access was getting more and more restricted with new developments in linux. Pierre 2011/1/20 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at The [hid] code is the same, perhaps something you set up before just took effect with the updates. Did you follow the HID on Ubuntu docs on puredata.info? .hc On Jan 18, 2011, at 12:13 PM, Pierre Massat wrote: Now i'm scared to let Ubuntu install the latest updates... 2011/1/18 Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com Hello, I recently mentioned in a post that i had to run pd as root in order to use HID. I just opened the hid object in ubuntu 10.04, without running pd a root, and much to my surprise it works flawlessly with my gamepad. Is the ubuntu distro just getting insanely awesome or what? I can use HID without being root and i get a 5ms latency without having to install a patched rt kernel. Is this heaven? Please pinch me. Seriously, regarding HID, is this a security issue that will be fixed in the next updates or is it permanently there? Or did Hans fix something in the code? I'm happy right now. Pierre ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list We have nothing to fear from love and commitment. - New York Senator Diane Savino, trying to convince the NY Senate to pass a gay marriage bill ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd convention~ Application
I've started an Ideas subpage in the wiki. http://www.uni-weimar.de/medien/wiki/Pure_Data_convention_2011/Ideas btw it's only protected by a captcha, feel welcome to edit. m. Am 20.01.2011 um 16:58 schrieb Ben Baker-Smith: I propose hosting a video stream of the convention (as much as possible anyway). I can provide an icecast server for the duration, or there's always ustream. Ben Baker-Smith -- http://bitsynthesis.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] linking libs in extern development
Dear folks, Does anybody know a good way to link libraries in a Pd extern build? I am using plain ol' command line and makefiles. It would be nice to be able to do this without modifying the Makefile in the Pd.etc./Contents/Resources/ directory, but due to my general ignorance of programming lore, I don't really know how to do this. Any suggestions? Thanks, David Medine ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd convention~ Application
I can't see a edit button only a 'log in' to the left... So how can i edit? My Idea would be a Mitfahrgelegenheitsseite for the Travellers who plan to go by car / Train-Group-Tickets / etc. to organize travel a bit. Also i could offer to do a little workshop but thats maybe to soon for that :) mrks On 20.01.2011 19:29, Max wrote: I've started an Ideas subpage in the wiki. http://www.uni-weimar.de/medien/wiki/Pure_Data_convention_2011/Ideas btw it's only protected by a captcha, feel welcome to edit. m. Am 20.01.2011 um 16:58 schrieb Ben Baker-Smith: I propose hosting a video stream of the convention (as much as possible anyway). I can provide an icecast server for the duration, or there's always ustream. Ben Baker-Smith -- http://bitsynthesis.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd convention~ Application
good idea! Sign up here: http://www.uni-weimar.de/medien/wiki/index.php5?title=Special:UserLogintype=signup Am 21.01.2011 um 01:23 schrieb Markus Demmel: I can't see a edit button only a 'log in' to the left... So how can i edit? My Idea would be a Mitfahrgelegenheitsseite for the Travellers who plan to go by car / Train-Group-Tickets / etc. to organize travel a bit. Also i could offer to do a little workshop but thats maybe to soon for that :) mrks On 20.01.2011 19:29, Max wrote: I've started an Ideas subpage in the wiki. http://www.uni-weimar.de/medien/wiki/Pure_Data_convention_2011/Ideas btw it's only protected by a captcha, feel welcome to edit. m. Am 20.01.2011 um 16:58 schrieb Ben Baker-Smith: I propose hosting a video stream of the convention (as much as possible anyway). I can provide an icecast server for the duration, or there's always ustream. Ben Baker-Smith -- http://bitsynthesis.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] linking libs in extern development
Have you tried the library template: On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 19:34 -0800, david medine dmed...@ucsd.edu wrote: Sorry to have cluttered the list with all this nonsense, but I solved my problem all by my lonesome. It is all kludge, but it works. The elegant solution (I think) is to write a nice .configure script that will generate exactly the right makefile regardless of os and configuration, but I don't know how to do that. So, in the meantime one way to link libraries when building Pd externs (this is for Mac, but it should be pretty much the same on any Unix outfit) is like this: modify the file '/'whatever'/Pd.etc/Contents/Resources/extra/makefile' so that the first line reads: 'current: pd_darwin' then in the section that sets the rules and recipes for building on make it looks so: 'pd_darwin: $(NAME).pd_darwin .SUFFIXES: .pd_darwin DARWINCFLAGS = -DPD -O2 -Wall -W -Wshadow -Wstrict-prototypes \ -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch .c.pd_darwin: $(CC) -arch i386 $(DARWINCFLAGS) $(LINUXINCLUDE) -o $*.o -c $*.c $(CC) -arch i386 $(LIBS) -bundle -undefined suppress -flat_namespace \ -o $*.pd_darwin $*.o rm -f $*.o' I took out all the '.d_ppc' and '-arch ppc' stuff that's in the makefile that comes with Pd (vanilla) because I have an intel core so ppc junk is irrelevant. I changed .d_fat to .pd_darwin, because somebody who actually knows stuff (unlike me) told me that .pd_darwin is the current convention. The variable 'LINUXINCLUDE' is simply '-I../../src' and is here recycled from a previous definition in the makefile. It has nothing to do with linux whatsoever. It just tells the compiler to look at the Pd source code when you hit make on your external. The other big change I made is inserting the 'LIBS' variable in the second build phase instruction which I shall explain below. It is a simple matter to implement analogous modifications in the other unix-ish portions of the makefile, but I haven't tested it yet. I don't know anything about Windows... Now that the pd makefile is ready to go, go into your extern project directory and make a makefile there that looks like so: 'NAME=awesomeExtern CSYM=awesomeExtern include /'whatever'/Pd.etc/Contents/Resources/extra/makefile DARWINCFLAGS += -I/path/to/awesome-library/headers etc. LIBS = -L/path/to/awesome-library -lawesomelibrary etc.' I put 'etc.' in there because there may be more than one header file or library that you want to use. You can discover what you need by putting 'pkg-config --cflags awesomelibraryA awesomelibraryB etc.' into the command line. These return values are what you want to /add/ (note the '+=') to the 'DARWINCFLAGS' variable. Likewise the return of 'pkg-config --libs awesomelibraryA awesomelibraryB etc.' is what you want to be associated with the 'LIBS' variable. On Mac osx 5 (don't know about 6), the path is usually /opt/local/include and /opt/local/lib. On Unix/Linux I believe it is typically /usr/local/include and /usr/local/lib where libraries get installed. Sorry if this is old-hat to all the C honchos out there and irrelevant to everyone else (as I suspect is the case). I'm sure it is about a million times easier if you use Xcode to develop your externs, but then you would have to use Xcode. If this is helpful/relevant to people I'd be happy to clean up this little tutorial and post it to the Pd wiki. Best, David On 1/20/11 4:55 PM, david medine wrote: OK, nuts to that. First, I must correct myself, the makefile I am referring to is in the Pd.etc.app/Contents/Resources/extra folder. (By the way, I am at home working on my Mac right now, I haven't tried this on my beastly linux box at all yet and so I am not sure what all the details of this issue are there off the top of my head.) Also, I went ahead and dropped the -c flag from the makefile (this flag stops linking altogether when make is run) and apparently when you do this, the extern won't build at all! I think this has something to do with the fact that in this mode, gcc needs to link with all the Pd objects also, (because terminal tells me so...) but this explanation doesn't really make sense to me. Does anyone know how to tweak the makefile (or any clean method, for that matter) so that one can link libraries to externals? Thanks again, David On 1/20/11 4:02 PM, david medine wrote: Dear folks, Does anybody know a good way to link libraries in a Pd extern build? I am using plain ol' command line and makefiles. It would be nice to be able to do this without modifying the Makefile in the Pd.etc./Contents/Resources/ directory, but due to my general ignorance of programming lore, I don't really know how to do this. Any suggestions? Thanks, David Medine ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
