[PD] frozen GUI
Hi all, I know this is quite a recurrent topic...we are having serious issues with PD under Windows. The GUI gets frozen after 15-30min working, possibly due to excess of GUI updates, though not sure about that. The audio thread works and operating with the GUI is still possible, though with no visual feedback. Would it be a way to overcome that, or to relaunch/reconnect whatever the GUI alone, without having to restart PD? If removing GUI updates to hidden abstractions might help, I would patienlly remove them all... Thanks in advance Josep M ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] frozen GUI
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-06-14 10:52, Jeppi Jeppi wrote: Hi all, I know this is quite a recurrent topic...we are having serious issues with PD under Windows. The GUI gets frozen after 15-30min working, possibly due to excess of GUI updates, though not sure about that. The audio thread works and operating with the GUI is still possible, though with no visual feedback. Would it be a way to overcome that, or to relaunch/reconnect whatever the GUI alone, without having to restart PD? If removing GUI updates to hidden abstractions might help, I would patienlly remove them all... the problem with recurrent issues is, that it is hard to tell whether they are really appearing again (that is: in new versions of Pd) or only still appearing (in versions that are known to exhibit the problem) in order to let us know more: - - which version of Pd are you using? - - have you used a _recent_ (e.g. 0.43) version of Pd? fmaer IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk33L1QACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvRYJACdGwdahOP0BkqnPpIXLbC3jVuh paAAoLHpABNjFlO7z8+SjCVdmR6xsOC4 =L1D6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] frozen GUI
Thanks IOhannes, well I use PD extended 0.42.5 under Windows 7. The pach has the default GUI elements with intensive updates of their state from OSC, both via sends, sets and color updates. Josep M Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 11:52:23 +0200 From: zmoel...@iem.at To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] frozen GUI -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-06-14 10:52, Jeppi Jeppi wrote: Hi all, I know this is quite a recurrent topic...we are having serious issues with PD under Windows. The GUI gets frozen after 15-30min working, possibly due to excess of GUI updates, though not sure about that. The audio thread works and operating with the GUI is still possible, though with no visual feedback. Would it be a way to overcome that, or to relaunch/reconnect whatever the GUI alone, without having to restart PD? If removing GUI updates to hidden abstractions might help, I would patienlly remove them all... the problem with recurrent issues is, that it is hard to tell whether they are really appearing again (that is: in new versions of Pd) or only still appearing (in versions that are known to exhibit the problem) in order to let us know more: - - which version of Pd are you using? - - have you used a _recent_ (e.g. 0.43) version of Pd? fmaer IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk33L1QACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvRYJACdGwdahOP0BkqnPpIXLbC3jVuh paAAoLHpABNjFlO7z8+SjCVdmR6xsOC4 =L1D6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] frozen GUI
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-06-14 12:24, Jeppi Jeppi wrote: Thanks IOhannes, well I use PD extended 0.42.5 under Windows 7. ok. could you try a 0.43 build and see what happens. note that some people think, that 0.43 is not ready for prime-time, so you probably don't want to overwrite your existing installation, but install besides it. fgmasdr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk33N/AACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvT5OgCg3TiZTMjNKfCED4n8ZqW7T5KP lsUAoMftJY45yD2jVum+rwmwAwV99/Xa =tzio -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] arduino weirdnesses
Hi, I'm using and arduino UNO with StandardFirmata and the [arduino] abstraction and the arduino-test.pd test patch. When I open the connection, at random times some of the following things happen: - sometimes the ver subpatch (the one with blue gop just under pd device info) appears empty instead of showing the usual Firmata-2.2 - sometimes on the console I get the firmware message twice, and one of the times it is messed up, like: Firmware: Stá-2.2 Firmware: StandardFirmata_2_2_forUNO_0_3-2.2 -sometimes I get this error on the console: And of course, most of the times everything works fine. This looks like there are being transmission errors on the serial line, doesn't it? Doesn't it use any error correction? Or is it something else? I always close the connection before I try opening it again, and I'm doing this all with the arduino-test.pd patch. Thanks m. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] ardino open message and version
Hi, Digging into the [arduino] abstraction I've noticed that it seems to assume that [flatspace/comport] will output a open 1 message when the connection is open, but that never happens. There is a pd report firmware version connected to comport's right outlet that does the following: [inlet] | [route open] | [select 1] | [delay 2000] | [version( | [outlet] and that's sent back to [pd command processing], as if that was used to ask the arduino for its version when the opening of the connection is detected. However, that does never happen because the open message never comes from comport's right outlet in the first place. However I do see the firmware version message on the console. So I'm guessing that the arduino outputs it when it gets connected, on its own initiative, without being asked. Is that right? Or is that triggered from somewhere else? The only thing coming out from flatspace/comport's right outlet seems to be a -1 when the connection is closed. By the way I now see that the help patch for comport also has a [route open] (among other messages) on its right outlet, so maybe it is actually a bug in [comport] not outputting the open message? Thanks m. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pduino test patch: old analog/digital controls
On 06/13/2011 09:09 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: @Ingo and Matteo I'm also quite interested in having the [arduino] working properly. I didn't find any bugs recently, though. However, if you provide a step-by-step guide about how to reproduce a problem, I (and probably Olsen also) might be able to help, Ok, the problem is that in my case I'm not sure whether I'm experiencing an issue, an incorrectness in the test patch, or just my lack of knowledge of how it is _expected_ to behave. With both old and new versions of the StandardFirmata firmware the following message enables analog input from pin A0 (i.e. pin 14): analogIns 0 1 (0 means A0 and 1 means on) But in the test patch this is enclosed in a subpatch calles old analog/digital controls so is it supposed to be obsolete? The only other way I've seemed to find to enable input from analog pin A0 is: pinMode 14 analog which seems to be the suggested way in the test patch (offered with the pink grid on the upper-right part of the patch), but this only works with OLD versions of StandardFirmata. So it looks like either: a. there is a third, current, non-obsolete, recommended way of doing that which I don't know b. the suggested way is the old one and the one documented as old is actually the new one (but I don't think so, that's not what Chris said) c. something isn't working right The same happens with both Arduino 2009 (with the StandardFirmata sketch) and with an Arduino UNO (with the StandardFirmata_2_2_for_UNO_0_3). Both sketches are those that ship with the latest package of the Arduino IDE for Debian sid. The older StandardFirmata sketch where the pinMode N analog message worked were taken from an older version of the arduino package for Ubuntu from the official repository, but I don't remember the version number. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pduino test patch: old analog/digital controls
The exact same thing that Matteo mentioned about the old analogue method is happening here, too. Tested with Diecimila and Duemilanove. I was also using the test patch as a starting patch. My workaraound was simply to use the old method (after for searching for quite some time). I need to find the other problem with the digital Ins 1+2 giving wrong values will first. I will post a patch to reproduce it asap but it might take a couple of days to look for it. I had a workaround for it already but I do not know if this workaround could still be applied with other boards like the mega. As far as I remember it was a problem of the firmata sending wrong data rather than the pd patch doing something wrong. Ingo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] Im Auftrag von Matteo Sisti Sette Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Juni 2011 16:26 An: Roman Haefeli Cc: 'PD List' Betreff: Re: [PD] pduino test patch: old analog/digital controls On 06/13/2011 09:09 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: @Ingo and Matteo I'm also quite interested in having the [arduino] working properly. I didn't find any bugs recently, though. However, if you provide a step-by-step guide about how to reproduce a problem, I (and probably Olsen also) might be able to help, Ok, the problem is that in my case I'm not sure whether I'm experiencing an issue, an incorrectness in the test patch, or just my lack of knowledge of how it is _expected_ to behave. With both old and new versions of the StandardFirmata firmware the following message enables analog input from pin A0 (i.e. pin 14): analogIns 0 1 (0 means A0 and 1 means on) But in the test patch this is enclosed in a subpatch calles old analog/digital controls so is it supposed to be obsolete? The only other way I've seemed to find to enable input from analog pin A0 is: pinMode 14 analog which seems to be the suggested way in the test patch (offered with the pink grid on the upper-right part of the patch), but this only works with OLD versions of StandardFirmata. So it looks like either: a. there is a third, current, non-obsolete, recommended way of doing that which I don't know b. the suggested way is the old one and the one documented as old is actually the new one (but I don't think so, that's not what Chris said) c. something isn't working right The same happens with both Arduino 2009 (with the StandardFirmata sketch) and with an Arduino UNO (with the StandardFirmata_2_2_for_UNO_0_3). Both sketches are those that ship with the latest package of the Arduino IDE for Debian sid. The older StandardFirmata sketch where the pinMode N analog message worked were taken from an older version of the arduino package for Ubuntu from the official repository, but I don't remember the version number. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] ardino open message and version
On 14/06/11 10:05 AM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: Hi, Digging into the [arduino] abstraction I've noticed that it seems to assume that [flatspace/comport] will output a open 1 message when the connection is open, but that never happens. There is a pd report firmware version connected to comport's right outlet that does the following: [inlet] | [route open] | [select 1] | [delay 2000] | [version( | [outlet] and that's sent back to [pd command processing], as if that was used to ask the arduino for its version when the opening of the connection is detected. However, that does never happen because the open message never comes from comport's right outlet in the first place. However I do see the firmware version message on the console. So I'm guessing that the arduino outputs it when it gets connected, on its own initiative, without being asked. Is that right? Or is that triggered from somewhere else? The only thing coming out from flatspace/comport's right outlet seems to be a -1 when the connection is closed. By the way I now see that the help patch for comport also has a [route open] (among other messages) on its right outlet, so maybe it is actually a bug in [comport] not outputting the open message? Or maybe you don't have a recent [comport]. It should output a list of things when you send it a [info( message, one of which is 'open'. Martin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pix_film can't open almost any file after upgrading to Ubuntu 10.10
Hi, I've recently upgraded ubuntu 10.04 to 10.10, and I had to uninstall pd-extended and reinstalled the new package for 10.04. After that, pix_film crashes when I try to open many video files that I used to be able to open without issues. It crashes with a few MOV files encoded with mjpeg but doesn't crash with some other AVI files also encoded with mjpeg (don't know if it was the exact same codec or not) (all these are files it used to be able open), and so far it crash with ANY new file that I have tried to encode with ffmpeg, with avidemux, both mov and avi and with several different codecs. I can't find any format I can generate with ffmpeg or avidemux that pix_film will open without crashing. Has anyone experienced anything similar? I'm desperate, as this breaks almost all the patches I was working on and I can't seem to find even a workaround, such as recoding all videos to a format that would work. Just hoping someone has had a similar issue and figured out what got broken when upgrading to 10.10... This is Pd Extended 0.42.5 which has Gem 0.92.3, as it ships in the Package for Ubuntu 10.10 downloaded from puredata.info. Needless to say I can open these files in just any other software other than Pd. Thanks in advance m. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pix_film can't open almost any file after upgrading to Ubuntu 10.10
On 06/14/2011 06:59 PM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: I've recently upgraded ubuntu 10.04 to 10.10, and I had to uninstall pd-extended and reinstalled the new package for 10.04. After that, pix_film crashes when I try to open many video files that I used to be able to open without issues. Ok it turns out it is libquicktime which is broken (thanks IOHannes for pointing that out). Unfortunately the latest version from CVS is equally broken. Does anybody know of a version of libquicktime that doesn't always crash on Ubuntu 10.10 and how can I get that particular version? thanks m. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] frozen GUI
You can download disis_netsend/receive and other externals directly from the l2ork page I posted in my last email (just click on join l2orkmania and then on software and it should work with any flavor of pd. It is also a drop-in replacement for vanilla netsend/receive. HTH P.S. Many thanks for the kind words regarding NIME performance! Best wishes, Ico Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A Composition, Music Technology Director, DISIS Interactive Sound Intermedia Studio Director, L2Ork LinuxLaptop Orchestra Assistant Co-Director, CCTAD CHCI, CS, and Art (by courtesy) Virginia Tech Department of Music Blacksburg, VA 24061-0240 (540) 231-6139 (540) 231-5034 (fax) disis.music.vt.edu l2ork.music.vt.edu ico.bukvic.net Jeppi Jeppi jepp...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi! Many thanks... By the way, nice performance@NIME, I was there. Great drummer, and nice ensemble! Yep, we use massive networking (I conduct another laptop orchestra, from Barcelona). We currently use Windows for the servers (because of soundcard driver availability)...is that netsend external available for it? Otherwise I'll check it during the summer, but not for our very next performance which is in two days... Josep M _ From: i...@vt.edu To: jepp...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: [PD] frozen GUI Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 14:55:19 +0200 Are you using any networking? If so, I encountered similar problems with gui updates in our l2ork setup where netreceive’s polling function (afaik) dispatches message at any time regardless of when the gui thread is taking place. Consequently, in pd-l2ork (Linux only at this point) there are changes in core architecture to address this including disis_netsend/netreceive external that, apart from broadcast and other features, also ensures that incoming messages always are dispatched within the gui update thread. http://l2ork.music.vt.edu/main/ (click on Software link) HTH ico _ From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Jeppi Jeppi Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 10:53 AM To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: [PD] frozen GUI Hi all, I know this is quite a recurrent topic...we are having serious issues with PD under Windows. The GUI gets frozen after 15-30min working, possibly due to excess of GUI updates, though not sure about that. The audio thread works and operating with the GUI is still possible, though with no visual feedback. Would it be a way to overcome that, or to relaunch/reconnect whatever the GUI alone, without having to restart PD? If removing GUI updates to hidden abstractions might help, I would patienlly remove them all... Thanks in advance Josep M ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pix_film can't open almost any file after upgrading to Ubuntu 10.10
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-06-14 19:43, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: On 06/14/2011 06:59 PM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: I've recently upgraded ubuntu 10.04 to 10.10, and I had to uninstall pd-extended and reinstalled the new package for 10.04. After that, pix_film crashes when I try to open many video files that I used to be able to open without issues. Ok it turns out it is libquicktime which is broken (thanks IOHannes for pointing that out). Unfortunately the latest version from CVS is equally broken. since libquicktime (1.2.2) is fine here on debian. the problem might come from something else, e.g. some 3rd party library lqt is using. you should run a a test in gdb and do a backtrace: $ gdb --args lqtplay /path/to/broken/file (gdb) run Segmentation faul (gdb) bt snip ... /snip (gdb) and post everything between snip and /snip. preferrably (also) to some quicktime-related bugtracker (or ubuntu's) fgmadr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk33p+kACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvR+jwCg78fGVCjZcFjkAx1D4TEZCcxA SmkAoISSU7PILAp/QGjrc388qllGqFQc =kgLx -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Another arduino weirdness
Hi, With this: [arduino] | [print ARDUINO] On Linux, when I open the connection, it prints: ARDUINO: version 2 2 ARDUINO: StandardFirmata_2_2_forUNO_0_3 2 2 ARDUINO: firmware StandardFirmata_2_2_forUNO_0_3 2 2 On Windows (with the very same arduino board), it doesn't print anything!! Yet everything else works and I do get the data messages from the left inlet of arduino! How can that be ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pix_film can't open almost any file after upgrading to Ubuntu 10.10
On 06/14/2011 08:26 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Unfortunately the latest version from CVS is equally broken. I wrote this after installing it and trying in Gem, but I hadn't tried lqtplay. Now lqtplay doesn't crash any more, it says it can't find libquicktime!! lqtplay: error while loading shared libraries: libquicktime.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory So my guess is that the version from CVS didn't install properly (thought it didn't report any error while configuring, making, nor installing) and that Gem is still using the version that used to crash and keeps crashing... ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Another arduino weirdness
On 06/14/2011 09:58 PM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: Hi, With this: [arduino] | [print ARDUINO] On Windows (with the very same arduino board), it doesn't print anything!! Nothing is even coming out from [comport] when the connection is established (in Windows)!! (but it does print things when data messages are received, such as digital pin data) It's as if the arduino itself was actually behaving differently on different platforms... or maybe [comport]. But why would [comport] drop some specific messages? It doesn't even know about messages, right? It only sees incoming bytes, doesn't it? I thought I would post the output from [comport] when connecting the arduino, on Windows and on Linux, but it is not always the same. Even if opening a freshly reset arduino (i.e. just after connecting it to the usb port, and without any extra circuitry), the output from [comport] is not always the same. Furthermore, it seems it is sending digital pin data messages (which may happen randomly since no pin is connected to anything) even if it has never received any pìnMode message. Is that expected behavior? And occasionally I get an UNKNOWN_INPUT_COMMAND: 1 505 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Another arduino weirdness
On 14/06/11 04:44 PM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: On 06/14/2011 09:58 PM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: Hi, With this: [arduino] | [print ARDUINO] On Windows (with the very same arduino board), it doesn't print anything!! Nothing is even coming out from [comport] when the connection is established (in Windows)!! (but it does print things when data messages are received, such as digital pin data) It's as if the arduino itself was actually behaving differently on different platforms... or maybe [comport]. But why would [comport] drop some specific messages? It doesn't even know about messages, right? It only sees incoming bytes, doesn't it? Well maybe you have different versions of [comport]. The 'open' message is output after the [comport] object receives an [info( message from within the Pd patch: it's not related to the arduino. I thought I would post the output from [comport] when connecting the arduino, on Windows and on Linux, but it is not always the same. Even if opening a freshly reset arduino (i.e. just after connecting it to the usb port, and without any extra circuitry), the output from [comport] is not always the same. Furthermore, it seems it is sending digital pin data messages (which may happen randomly since no pin is connected to anything) even if it has never received any pìnMode message. Is that expected behavior? Pins default to input. You can often change unconnected pins by moving your charge-carrying body parts near them. Martin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Another arduino weirdness
On 06/14/2011 11:01 PM, Martin wrote: On 14/06/11 04:44 PM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: On 06/14/2011 09:58 PM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: Hi, With this: [arduino] | [print ARDUINO] Well maybe you have different versions of [comport]. The 'open' message is output after the [comport] object receives an [info( message from within the Pd patch: it's not related to the arduino. Yes that accounts for the open message which would come from [comport]'s right outlet. But there are other messages sent by the arduino, such as the ones reporting the firmware version, which are being lost. I've found out that if I send the arduino the version message, then these messages _are_ received (also in Windows), while when the Arduino send them just after connecting, they are lost in Windows. So I think there must be an issue either in the Windows version of [comport] or in the Windows drivers, that if a message is received too soon after connecting, it is lost. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Another arduino weirdness
On 2011-06-14 17:45, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: On 06/14/2011 11:01 PM, Martin wrote: On 14/06/11 04:44 PM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: On 06/14/2011 09:58 PM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: Hi, With this: [arduino] | [print ARDUINO] Well maybe you have different versions of [comport]. The 'open' message is output after the [comport] object receives an [info( message from within the Pd patch: it's not related to the arduino. Yes that accounts for the open message which would come from [comport]'s right outlet. But there are other messages sent by the arduino, such as the ones reporting the firmware version, which are being lost. I've found out that if I send the arduino the version message, then these messages _are_ received (also in Windows), while when the Arduino send them just after connecting, they are lost in Windows. So I think there must be an issue either in the Windows version of [comport] or in the Windows drivers, that if a message is received too soon after connecting, it is lost. Yes I've run into that with arduino on MacOSX; the arduino bootloader is active for about 5 seconds after power-up, or whenever the port is opened if you are powering it via USB, so you have to be careful not to send anything through the serial port in the first 5 seconds or the arduino will interpret it as an incoming program. Martin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Another arduino weirdness
On 06/15/2011 12:57 AM, Martin Peach wrote: I've found out that if I send the arduino the version message, then these messages _are_ received (also in Windows), while when the Arduino send them just after connecting, they are lost in Windows. So I think there must be an issue either in the Windows version of [comport] or in the Windows drivers, that if a message is received too soon after connecting, it is lost. Yes I've run into that with arduino on MacOSX; the arduino bootloader is active for about 5 seconds after power-up, or whenever the port is opened if you are powering it via USB, so you have to be careful not to send anything through the serial port in the first 5 seconds or the arduino will interpret it as an incoming program. But I'm talking about the opposite direction. Messages sent from the Arduino to the computer immediately after the connection is established, 1. I connect the arduino physically, and wait several seconds, so it is already powered on and running StandardFirmata 2. In Pd I send the message open 0 to the [arduino] object In linux: [comport]'s left outlet outputs some data coming from the arduino, which happen to be the messages telling the firmware version and such In windows: [comport]'s left outlet doesn't output anything. So my guess is that the Arduino board, as soon as the connection is established from Pd, immediately sends data. In Linux this data is received and output by [comport], in Windows it is lost. I'm talking about data sent from Arduino to the computer, not viceversa. My guess may be entirely wrong, of course. It's just the only explanation I can think of. Note that these messages that the arduino sends (immediately after opening the connection through comport) are NOT being triggered by anything being sent by the [arduino] abstraction to the arduino board through [comport]. A possible explanation, now that I think about it, may be that the Arduino board does not send the firmware version every time a connection is established, but every time it is reset, and for some reason (due to differences in the way drivers work) establishing the connection from Pd in Limux triggers an Arduino reset while establishing the connection from Pd in Windows does not. Is it so? O, it may be relevant (though I don't directly see how) that when I test on Windows I do it through a virtual machine (on a linux host which is the one on which i test it in Linux). ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] A bit of generative patching
Did you check out the patchwerk radio site? it streams generative patches 24/7 for 10 mins each. http://radio.rumblesan.com:8000/radio.ogg . Here's my contribution, tell me what you think. Jeff On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com wrote: I like it a lot. I don't know anything about generative music. This is all pseudo-randomly created, right? It can't be played twice, right? And all these moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain, the replicant said. Never thought about it before, now i like the idea. Thanks a lot for sharing! Pierre 2011/6/11 Andrew Faraday jbtur...@hotmail.com Hey Guys Just came across this Pd lesson on youtube... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojO6woTngG8 It inspired me to get back on Pd (having not used it in a while) and modify the ideas he's throwing around into my own patch. This could quite possibly be the finest piece of single-canvas generative patching I've ever done, made in the space of about an hour. As ever any comments or suggestions would be welcome. Let me know what you think Andrew Faraday ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- www.epicjefferson.com www.avmachinists.org Puerto Rico based Art Collective/ Non-Profit Org Epic_Jeffersons_Craze.rar Description: application/rar ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
