Re: [PD] number stream in ascending order

2011-08-01 Thread Frank Barknecht
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 10:12:22PM +0100, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
 thanks guys, I ended up using [Bucket]
 is there another similar object?
 
 M
 
 
 [t f f]
 |  \
 |[Bucket 2]
 | |  /
 | [-]
 | |
 | [ 0]
 | |
 [spigot]

That's the same as the idiom João showed before, except that it requires users
to install an external object. I'd recommend to use João's version, maybe
extended like this:

 [t f f f]
 |\/
 |/\
 |   [- ]
 |   |
 |   [ 0]
 |\
 [spigot]
 |

Cião,
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 2011/7/31 Lazzaro Nicolò Ciccolella cicco...@tiscalinet.it
 
  Il 31/07/11 02.46, João Pais ha scritto:
 
   I usually use something like
 
  [t f f]
  \ /
  \/
  /\
  [- ]
 
  , maybe resetting the [-] to 0 when the machine starts
 
   hi,
  If you want to put a toggle-spigot at the end of the flow is perhaps
  better to use the 'greater than' instead of '-' so you get the values  0 and
  1
 
  t f f]
  \ /
  \/
  /\
  [ ]
  |
  [x]
  __
  Lazzaro
 
 
   oh yes, thanks Jaime...
  obvious,
 
  I think I need more coffee today... :)
 
  M
 
 
 
  On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Jaime Oliver jaime.oliv...@gmail.com
  **wrote:
 
   just subtract the previous value from the current and if it is
  positive it is in ascending order ??
  you could even smooth for slight irregularities.
 
  Is this what you're talking about?
 
  J
 
  On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 7:46 AM, Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.com
  wrote:
   Hi folks,
   I have a stream of floats between 0 and 1.
   The stream goes in a linear fashion back and forth, but I want Pd to
   understand when the stream is in ascending order.
  
   Ideas?
   Hope this is clear enough :)
   searching the archive didn't bring up anything useful so far.
   thanks,
   M
  
  
  
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Re: [PD] positioning the camera in specific point

2011-08-01 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
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 It's not exactly what you want, but [camera] may be solve your problem.
 

i would rather not, as i would rather have [camera] out of Gem as in.

normally the way to position the camera is by using the [view( message
to [gemwin].

but of course you can do the same using [translate] and [rotate] (e.g.
when using [gemframebuffer].

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[PD] Message for Alexandre Torres Porres

2011-08-01 Thread João Pais

[this message is for Alexandre, other means of contact didn't work out yet]

Olá Alexandre,

desde há umas semanas que estou a tentar contactar-te. Estou a alinhar o  
concerto em Berlim, e já enviei várias mensagens a perguntar-te sobre o  
teu setup técnico e a tua performance.


Por favor, entra em contacto comigo o mais rápido possível.

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[PD] [PD-announce] Pd Convention - Data structures workshop: Taking your requests

2011-08-01 Thread João Pais

Hello everyone,

in the first 2 days of the Pd Convention I will be giving a workshop about  
data structures -  
http://www.uni-weimar.de/medien/wiki/PDCON:Workshops/Data_Structures.


My plan is to talk about the theory in the first session, and practical  
implementations + patch analysis in the second session. I have already a  
group of example patches ligned up, but I wanted to see if anyone has  
their own desires.


So, if you are interested in coming to the data structures workshop, and  
already have a goal in mind on where/how to use them, you can send me your  
requests. If time is available, I might be able to do some work for you,  
which you can afterwards develop further.

If you want to send me a patch, try to follow the following steps:

- describe to me what the patch does, possibly leaving some comments  
inside near some important parts


- describe what you wish to do


And for everyone else: I would also like to know who will come to my  
workshop. In case you have time, just send me a small message privately  
with:


- your name
- your interests
- your experience level


Hope to see many of you next week,

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd Convention - Data structures workshop: Taking your requests

2011-08-01 Thread Charles Henry
Hi João

I'm mainly interested in using Pd for scientific and engineering
research.  I have a mixed level of experience--I'm deep into the DSP
routines, but I have no clue how data structures work.

About the only application I can think of right now is a data
logger--recording info about a particular trial/experiment and its
results.

I'd like to learn easy or more compact ways to accomplish things with
data structures.

I will look forward to your workshop!  Thanks much!

Chuck

On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 5:57 AM, João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hello everyone,

 in the first 2 days of the Pd Convention I will be giving a workshop about
 data structures -
 http://www.uni-weimar.de/medien/wiki/PDCON:Workshops/Data_Structures.

 My plan is to talk about the theory in the first session, and practical
 implementations + patch analysis in the second session. I have already a
 group of example patches ligned up, but I wanted to see if anyone has their
 own desires.

 So, if you are interested in coming to the data structures workshop, and
 already have a goal in mind on where/how to use them, you can send me your
 requests. If time is available, I might be able to do some work for you,
 which you can afterwards develop further.
 If you want to send me a patch, try to follow the following steps:

 - describe to me what the patch does, possibly leaving some comments inside
 near some important parts

 - describe what you wish to do


 And for everyone else: I would also like to know who will come to my
 workshop. In case you have time, just send me a small message privately
 with:

 - your name
 - your interests
 - your experience level


 Hope to see many of you next week,

 João Pais

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Re: [PD] GEM: borderless window is also always on top (and hasn't an icon)

2011-08-01 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Thu, 28 Jul 2011, Jack wrote:


Is there a simple possibility (hidden) to avoid that the Gem window
become the top most window on linux when you send 'border 0' ?


border 0 in [gemwin] on Linux uses the override_redirect option in X11's 
XCreateWindow(). This causes the window to be untouchable and unlisted.


Contrast this with border 0 in [#out window] on Linux, which uses 
MotifWmHints to remove the border and decorations (buttons,title,etc), but 
allows Alt+leftdrag, Alt+rightdrag and Alt+middleclick to still work (or 
whatever key+mouse shortcuts you have mapped for move/resize/menu). This 
also makes the window listed in all window-lists (incl Alt+tab).


[gemwin]'s border 0 is the equivalent of GF's
  [#out window here override_redirect] instead.

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[PD] netsend/netreceive + GUI bug

2011-08-01 Thread Jeppi Jeppi

Hi,I would like to know whether there are any fixes to the current oddities 
regarding netsend/netreceive usage and GUI updates. When receiving massive OSC 
data from other laptops, our central patch gets frozen (only the GUI, it still 
works but it is unusable).
This is a rather serious bug which prevents absolutely pd networking...
Ivica's seems disis_netsend to solve it rather well, but it's only for linux. 
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Re: [PD] netsend/netreceive + GUI bug

2011-08-01 Thread ico

Quoting Jeppi Jeppi jepp...@hotmail.com:



Hi,I would like to know whether there are any fixes to the current  
oddities regarding netsend/netreceive usage and GUI updates. When  
receiving massive OSC data from other laptops, our central patch  
gets frozen (only the GUI, it still works but it is unusable).

This is a rather serious bug which prevents absolutely pd networking...
Ivica's seems disis_netsend to solve it rather well, but it's only  
for linux. Any plans to incorporate such fixes into the canonical  
version?Thanks in advance!Josep M


Those externals should work on all versions of Pd as they in and of  
themselves are not linux-specific.


HTH

Best wishes,

Ico

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Re: [PD] netsend/netreceive + GUI bug

2011-08-01 Thread José Luis Santorcuato Tapia
Hello, IMHE, netsend works perfectly in Linux, OSX and Windows, the only
thing to keep in mind is the ip of the computer to control and call the
variables are equal, they are sent and those received.

BR

José
2011/8/1 i...@vt.edu

 Quoting Jeppi Jeppi jepp...@hotmail.com:


 Hi,I would like to know whether there are any fixes to the current
 oddities regarding netsend/netreceive usage and GUI updates. When receiving
 massive OSC data from other laptops, our central patch gets frozen (only the
 GUI, it still works but it is unusable).
 This is a rather serious bug which prevents absolutely pd networking...
 Ivica's seems disis_netsend to solve it rather well, but it's only for
 linux. Any plans to incorporate such fixes into the canonical version?Thanks
 in advance!Josep M


 Those externals should work on all versions of Pd as they in and of
 themselves are not linux-specific.

 HTH

 Best wishes,

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Re: [PD] netsend/netreceive + GUI bug

2011-08-01 Thread José Luis Santorcuato Tapia
Hi, me again, IMHE, freezes when doing something wrong ... ie error in the ip
or send a variable that does not exist, generally functions well, now, you
could try with mr peach osc.


José

El 1 de agosto de 2011 15:25, José Luis Santorcuato Tapia 
santorcuat...@gmail.com escribió:

 Hello, IMHE, netsend works perfectly in Linux, OSX and Windows, the only
 thing to keep in mind is the ip of the computer to control and call the
 variables are equal, they are sent and those received.

 BR

 José
 2011/8/1 i...@vt.edu

 Quoting Jeppi Jeppi jepp...@hotmail.com:


 Hi,I would like to know whether there are any fixes to the current
 oddities regarding netsend/netreceive usage and GUI updates. When receiving
 massive OSC data from other laptops, our central patch gets frozen (only the
 GUI, it still works but it is unusable).
 This is a rather serious bug which prevents absolutely pd networking...
 Ivica's seems disis_netsend to solve it rather well, but it's only for
 linux. Any plans to incorporate such fixes into the canonical version?Thanks
 in advance!Josep M


 Those externals should work on all versions of Pd as they in and of
 themselves are not linux-specific.

 HTH

 Best wishes,

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Re: [PD] Soundfiler / ram

2011-08-01 Thread Jean-Marie Adrien

Thanks for yor message Hans-Christoph !
so to confirm :

Given say 50 presets with each 250 samples some of them read direct  
from disk and others in arrays for looping and so on.

Presets do not need to switch instantly, loading might take few seconds.
But switching a large number of times as installation runs, has to be  
clean though.


Good way to implement this would be :
declare a number of arrays (corresponding to the largest preset) when  
loading the patch

and
resizing / reloading them for preset change ?

(I do not want to choose a bad option from the beginning !)
cheers,
JM












Le 30 juil. 11 à 20:20, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :




There is the 'resize' message to send to an array to resize it, or  
the -resize option to the 'read' message to soundfiler.  For very  
low RAM situations, you might be better off with readsf~.


.hc

On Jul 30, 2011, at 9:16 AM, Jma/celeonet wrote:



Hi list
Probably has been discussed million times : how is it possible to  
open / close large number of sound samples dynamically in arrays  
to keep ram low ? (all samples not used at the same time). Set to  
zero, resize to zero and reload ?  Any clear command ? Any clean  
and up-to-date way (Mac Os) ?

Thanks
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Re: [PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 77, Issue 2

2011-08-01 Thread Marco Donnarumma
Yep, agree. I was asking about a non-external solution, but I had overlooked
Joao solution.
thanks for the advice.

M




   1. Re: number stream in ascending order (Frank Barknecht)

 That's the same as the idiom Jo?o showed before, except that it requires
 users
 to install an external object. I'd recommend to use Jo?o's version, maybe
 extended like this:

  [t f f f]
  |\/
  |/\
  |   [- ]
  |   |
  |   [ 0]
  |\
  [spigot]
  |

 Ci?o,
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[PD] PdCon11: Fraunhofer IDMT Excursion, Coach transfer Weimar-Berlin and accomodation

2011-08-01 Thread Max
Dear Participants of the 4th Pure Data Convention 2011,

Tuesday afternoon we offer an excursion to our Partner Fraunhofer Institute for 
Digital Media Technology (IDMT) in Ilmenau with two small vans. You'll get to 
see the wave-field synthesis system IOSONO and a few other of their 
developments. The downside is that you will be absent for the workshops that 
happen at the same time.

Since we have about 15 seats available please put your name on this list (get 
an account and log in the wiki)
http://www.uni-weimar.de/medien/wiki/PDCON:Schedule/Excursion_Ilmenau
No charges apply.

Also we have hired a coach to bring you from Weimar to Berlin, which is roughly 
a three hours trip.
It will leave Saturday around 10 in Weimar and we should be in Berlin at 13h 
(if we don't get stuck in the end of holiday season).
I'll have to decide which coach we are renting depending on the demand. The bus 
company needs to know until this thursday which bus we want.
Please put your name on this list asap (get an account and log in the wiki): 
http://www.uni-weimar.de/medien/wiki/PDCON:Schedule/Coach_transfer
Charges of around 10,- Eur p.P. apply (Train is 52,- Eur).

If you have booked your hostel with us you will need to pay the special group 
deal of 18,- Eur per night at the hostel directly. If you are active 
participant (presenting, performing, teaching in at the convention) and you 
have checked the field that you need our support for the accommodation, we will 
cover for you. Passive participants (NOT presenting, performing teaching at the 
convention) who checked the field for support will get a subvention of 8,- Eur, 
thus they need to pay 10,- at the hostel.

João has noted that there is NO arrangement for accommodation in Berlin. Please 
arrange that yourselves, you may use the wiki, Pd-List or Facebook 
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=183123995057935 to organize yourselves if 
you want to share something.

Follow us on twitter
http://twitter.com/#!/PdCon2011

We are looking forward to have you here next week!

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Re: [PD] PdCon11: Fraunhofer IDMT Excursion, Coach transfer Weimar-Berlin and accomodation

2011-08-01 Thread Andy Farnell


Hey all, FWIW I went to hear the wavefield array in Ilmenau
a few years ago and it cooked my noodle. You will never be
satisfied in a regular Dolby theatre after hearing this. Its sick.
Do check it out if given the chance.

a.




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Max abonneme...@revolwear.com wrote:

 Dear Participants of the 4th Pure Data Convention 2011,
 
 Tuesday afternoon we offer an excursion to our Partner Fraunhofer Institute 
 for Digital Media Technology (IDMT) in Ilmenau with two small vans. You'll 
 get to see the wave-field synthesis system IOSONO and a few other of their 
 developments. The downside is that you will be absent for the workshops that 
 happen at the same time.
 
 Since we have about 15 seats available please put your name on this list (get 
 an account and log in the wiki)
 http://www.uni-weimar.de/medien/wiki/PDCON:Schedule/Excursion_Ilmenau
 No charges apply.
 
 Also we have hired a coach to bring you from Weimar to Berlin, which is 
 roughly a three hours trip.
 It will leave Saturday around 10 in Weimar and we should be in Berlin at 13h 
 (if we don't get stuck in the end of holiday season).
 I'll have to decide which coach we are renting depending on the demand. The 
 bus company needs to know until this thursday which bus we want.
 Please put your name on this list asap (get an account and log in the wiki): 
 http://www.uni-weimar.de/medien/wiki/PDCON:Schedule/Coach_transfer
 Charges of around 10,- Eur p.P. apply (Train is 52,- Eur).
 
 If you have booked your hostel with us you will need to pay the special group 
 deal of 18,- Eur per night at the hostel directly. If you are active 
 participant (presenting, performing, teaching in at the convention) and you 
 have checked the field that you need our support for the accommodation, we 
 will cover for you. Passive participants (NOT presenting, performing teaching 
 at the convention) who checked the field for support will get a subvention of 
 8,- Eur, thus they need to pay 10,- at the hostel.
 
 João has noted that there is NO arrangement for accommodation in Berlin. 
 Please arrange that yourselves, you may use the wiki, Pd-List or Facebook 
 http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=183123995057935 to organize yourselves 
 if you want to share something.
 
 Follow us on twitter
 http://twitter.com/#!/PdCon2011
 
 We are looking forward to have you here next week!
 
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Re: [PD] Soundfiler / ram

2011-08-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Yeah, I think just create 50 arrays with size 10 or something, then load
them using 'read -resize' to soundfiler.  If you need to deactivate an
array, you can send it a resize message to make it small.  See attached
patch.

.hc


On Mon, 01 Aug 2011 22:14 +0200, Jean-Marie Adrien
j...@jeanmarie-adrien.net wrote:
 Thanks for yor message Hans-Christoph !
 so to confirm :
 
 Given say 50 presets with each 250 samples some of them read direct  
 from disk and others in arrays for looping and so on.
 Presets do not need to switch instantly, loading might take few seconds.
 But switching a large number of times as installation runs, has to be  
 clean though.
 
 Good way to implement this would be :
 declare a number of arrays (corresponding to the largest preset) when  
 loading the patch
 and
 resizing / reloading them for preset change ?
 
 (I do not want to choose a bad option from the beginning !)
 cheers,
 JM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Le 30 juil. 11 à 20:20, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
 
 
 
  There is the 'resize' message to send to an array to resize it, or  
  the -resize option to the 'read' message to soundfiler.  For very  
  low RAM situations, you might be better off with readsf~.
 
  .hc
 
  On Jul 30, 2011, at 9:16 AM, Jma/celeonet wrote:
 
 
  Hi list
  Probably has been discussed million times : how is it possible to  
  open / close large number of sound samples dynamically in arrays  
  to keep ram low ? (all samples not used at the same time). Set to  
  zero, resize to zero and reload ?  Any clear command ? Any clean  
  and up-to-date way (Mac Os) ?
  Thanks
  JmAdrien
 
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[PD] Pitch Shift

2011-08-01 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Hi folks, so, what are the options out there for Pitch Shifting?

I usually use the Phase Vocoder, but there is an inevitable little bit of
delay and the buffer issue.

But the Pitch Shift example (G09.pitchshift.pd) sounds terrible next to the
phase vocoder, I think. And, well, basically I'd like to keep the same
length, just like the phase vocoder, so what do you say?

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Re: [PD] Pitch Shift

2011-08-01 Thread Eduardo Patricio


what about e_pitchshift (from RjDj)?


Eduardo





De: Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com
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Enviadas: Terça-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2011 1:02
Assunto: [PD] Pitch Shift


Hi folks, so, what are the options out there for Pitch Shifting? 

I usually use the Phase Vocoder, but there is an inevitable little bit of delay 
and the buffer issue.

But the Pitch Shift example (G09.pitchshift.pd) sounds terrible next to the 
phase vocoder, I think. And, well, basically I'd like to keep the same length, 
just like the phase vocoder, so what do you say?

thanks
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Re: [PD] Pitch Shift

2011-08-01 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
do you know what is it based on?

It's like a didactical doubt as well, you know...



2011/8/2 Eduardo Patricio epatri...@yahoo.com



 what about e_pitchshift (from RjDj)?


 Eduardo


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 *De:* Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com
 *Para:* pd-lista puredata pd-list@iem.at
 *Enviadas:* Terça-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2011 1:02
 *Assunto:* [PD] Pitch Shift

 Hi folks, so, what are the options out there for Pitch Shifting?

 I usually use the Phase Vocoder, but there is an inevitable little bit of
 delay and the buffer issue.

 But the Pitch Shift example (G09.pitchshift.pd) sounds terrible next to the
 phase vocoder, I think. And, well, basically I'd like to keep the same
 length, just like the phase vocoder, so what do you say?

 thanks

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