Re: [PD] enhance pd-extended with pd-l2ork featues ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-02-05 22:52, Ivica Bukvic wrote: It is the latest Gem from svn, so I am not sure what is not working. Can svn? Gem has switched to git in 2011. hopefully you meant vcs instead. fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlESDgcACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvRegACfQPxrPrPyvsj28hGxZGq2tIz4 sgoAn0hqOa1SQNPpxtPH2Ljtc3YP4zln =lTUr -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Freezes with Pd-Extended and Jack
Actually I didn't tried... At the moment I don't have so much time to experiment another version, maybe later, seems great project. rr Le 02. 02. 13 15:19, Ivica Bukvic a écrit : Does this affect you on pd-l2ork as well? On Feb 2, 2013 3:10 AM, Raphael Raccuia rafael.racc...@blindekinder.com mailto:rafael.racc...@blindekinder.com wrote: Hi, late for this, but problem persists in 0.43release. https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=3602109group_id=55736atid=478070 I confirm it has to do with latency: under ~20ms, bug occurs. Also occurs when changing soundconfig. Two things: -as said, pd shouldn't recreate jack client on each dsp on. Other problem is that a jack patch is lost and replaced by straight connection (pd 0 - system out 1 etc...). Very annoyingfor who use complex jack-patches... http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=3519504group_id=55736atid=478070 - 20ms latency is very highfor live processing: I calculated pd adds 22ms. The round trip latency in the lower stable state for me at 48K is 88ms (measured with jdelay tool, with RME multiface)! make a sound, have a coffee and come back to listen (a bit exaggerated ;-) )... rr Le 27. 11. 12 10:20, Roman Haefeli a écrit : Hi all Johnny-come-lately I am . . . I've experienced this problem since 0.43 (vanilla and extended), I believe, but I haven't really investigated it, because it didn't happen that often and I wasn't able to reliably reproduce it. Now I figured out a way to reliably reproduce it. It seems the likeliness is related to jackd's latency settings. The shorter the latency, the likelier is pd going to freeze. With a setting of 128 frames/period and 2 periods/buffer, I can reliably freeze pd by turning DSP off and on. The problem seems related to the fact that switching DSP also switches the jack client on and off. I think the preferred way would be to be able to switch DSP on/off independently from switching audio back-end on/off. @Miller Are you still planning to seperate dsp switching from audio backe-end switching for 0.44? Roman On Mit, 2012-11-21 at 20:35 -0200, Esteban Viveros wrote: Hello, I'm using pd-extended 0.43.4, installed via Hans-Cristoph Steiner ppa. I'm using this version because I can't install the stable version in Ubuntu 12.04. The problem is, when I start pd with Jack in -rt mode or wherever mode, if I turn on dsp, they work well, but if I turn off, and try to turn on yet dsp, pd-extended freeze... Closing Qjackctl (after some time ubuntu can close that) pd-extended returns to work, and I can use on alsa directly sucessfull.. Someone knows where I can comunicate this bug to the developers? Is here the place? Thanks a lot! -- Esteban Viveros (27) 8815 7170 (27) 3066 0359 (11) 95761 4125 (11) 2738 7868 www.bandpage.com/estebanviveros http://www.bandpage.com/estebanviveros https://www.facebook.com/estebanviveros.art http://www.papodecompositor-es.blogspot.com.br/ http://expurgacao.art.br/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] enhance pd-extended with pd-l2ork featues ?
Hi, thanks. More specific: all Gem objects were dashed. after adding declare -path /usr/lib/pd-l2ork/extra/Gem gemhead and gemwin objects are ok but not others such as color, rotate, square. Here's a bit of console output: gemreceive __gem_render $1 ... couldn't create gemreceive __gem_render_osd $1 ... couldn't create gemlist ... couldn't create GEMglColor4f 1 1 1 1 ... couldn't create GEMglMaterialfv GL_FRONT_AND_BACK GL_AMBIENT 0.2 0.2 0.2 1 ... couldn't create GEMglMaterialfv GL_FRONT_AND_BACK GL_DIFFUSE 0.8 0.8 0.8 1 ... couldn't create GEMglMaterialfv GL_FRONT_AND_BACK GL_EMISSION 0 0 0 1 ... couldn't create GEMglMaterialfv GL_FRONT_AND_BACK GL_SPECULAR 0 0 0 1 ... couldn't create GEMglMaterialfv GL_FRONT_AND_BACK GL_SHININESS 0 ... couldn't create GEMglPushMatrix color ... couldn't create It's just maybe Gem is broken today. It's just maybe I did something wrong if it's working for you. Thanks Charles Ivica Bukvic wrote: It is the latest Gem from svn, so I am not sure what is not working. Can you be more specific? On Feb 5, 2013 4:37 PM, Charles Goyard c...@fsck.fr wrote: ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] enhance pd-extended with pd-l2ork featues ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-02-06 09:54, Charles Goyard wrote: Hi, thanks. More specific: all Gem objects were dashed. after adding declare -path /usr/lib/pd-l2ork/extra/Gem gemhead and gemwin objects are ok but not others such as color, rotate, square. you need to _load_ Gem: [declare -lib Gem] Here's a bit of console output: gemreceive __gem_render $1 i understand that you have not loaded Gem and only Gem's abstractions (found in /usr/lib/pd-l2ork/extra/Gem) are available. since there are abstraction implementations for [gemhead] and [gemwin] these objects succeed to create (though their internals that depend on the Gem-binary don't). fgamsdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlESIusACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvQtoQCdF+kjhA1QXE9ifHDpxAxxRM66 p+EAoI8zxPLDoAx3eNowXSM0krN7Wc7W =dlzX -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] enhance pd-extended with pd-l2ork featues ?
IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: all Gem objects were dashed. after adding declare -path /usr/lib/pd-l2ork/extra/Gem gemhead and gemwin objects are ok but not others such as color, rotate, square. you need to _load_ Gem: [declare -lib Gem] i understand that you have not loaded Gem and only Gem's abstractions (found in /usr/lib/pd-l2ork/extra/Gem) are available. since there are abstraction implementations for [gemhead] and [gemwin] these objects succeed to create (though their internals that depend on the Gem-binary don't). Understood. It works ! thanks a lot. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pidip
On 04/02/13 15:48, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: might also be packaged for Debian/Ubuntu as part of Pure Dyne. FYI... http://puredyne-list-now-closed.466513.n3.nabble.com/puredyne-announcement-from-the-Puredyne-developers-td3717873.html Lorenzo. .hc On 02/04/2013 08:02 AM, Pagano, Patrick wrote: how is this possible using linux? I have kept my 42.5 for OSX pp From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] on behalf of Hans-Christoph Steiner [h...@at.or.at] Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 11:02 PM To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] pidip You can take the 'pidip' folder out of Pd-extended 0.42.5 and install it like any library, and it'll work. Otherwise, I suggest you have a private conversation with Yves. .hc On 02/03/2013 09:10 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote: i notice that pidip is not in the new pdextended is there a way we can reconcile this without huge tantrums and bullshit? pp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] enhance pd-extended with pd-l2ork featues ?
Charles Goyard wrote: IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: all Gem objects were dashed. after adding declare -path /usr/lib/pd-l2ork/extra/Gem gemhead and gemwin objects are ok but not others such as color, rotate, square. you need to _load_ Gem: [declare -lib Gem] i understand that you have not loaded Gem and only Gem's abstractions (found in /usr/lib/pd-l2ork/extra/Gem) are available. since there are abstraction implementations for [gemhead] and [gemwin] these objects succeed to create (though their internals that depend on the Gem-binary don't). Understood. It works ! but Gem installation misses the *.so (video backends and stuff) in the installation dir. once manually copied pix_video and pix_film work. I guess it's more a bug of Gem install script rather than pd-l2ork, but I just wanted to point that out. Thanks for the all the hard work, Charles ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] enhance pd-extended with pd-l2ork featues ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-02-06 14:20, Charles Goyard wrote: I guess it's more a bug of Gem install script rather than pd-l2ork, but I just wanted to point that out. Gem's install script (aka Makefile) installs everything, including all compiled backends. what makes you say that there is a bug here? fgamsdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlESXFMACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvRUSQCgy82I5JXV5qfdVnDfnmiwMxFV ywEAnAxorBZyvxABIz+xx24vz4Oy6/69 =2Ape -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] enhance pd-extended with pd-l2ork featues ?
How did you install pd-l2ork? If you tried compiling it yourself and did not have all the development libraries necessary for compiling Gem, then the installer would never build Gem and give you plenty of errors. On the software page I provided a list of Ubuntu packages you would need to compile entire package successfully. Pd-l2ork also comes with Gem being auto loaded when you start the app (using /usr/lib/pd-l2ork/default.pdl2ork), therefore it should just work if everything is been installed properly. Gem is built as a library and is located in /usr/lib/pd-l2ork/extra/Gem/Gem.pd_linux (or/usr/local... if you installed using script-based binary installer version). Again, I need as much information as possible about how you installed the software. On Feb 6, 2013 8:26 AM, Charles Goyard c...@fsck.fr wrote: Charles Goyard wrote: IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: all Gem objects were dashed. after adding declare -path /usr/lib/pd-l2ork/extra/Gem gemhead and gemwin objects are ok but not others such as color, rotate, square. you need to _load_ Gem: [declare -lib Gem] i understand that you have not loaded Gem and only Gem's abstractions (found in /usr/lib/pd-l2ork/extra/Gem) are available. since there are abstraction implementations for [gemhead] and [gemwin] these objects succeed to create (though their internals that depend on the Gem-binary don't). Understood. It works ! but Gem installation misses the *.so (video backends and stuff) in the installation dir. once manually copied pix_video and pix_film work. I guess it's more a bug of Gem install script rather than pd-l2ork, but I just wanted to point that out. Thanks for the all the hard work, Charles ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pidip
I just finished cleaning up both pdp and pidip libs to be fully auto-buildable as part of pd-l2ork (including freenect, artoolkit, opencv, etc.). There are a number of packages you need to install from launchpad in order to get all the externals to build. Stay tuned for the next release coming soon with these enhancements... ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pidip
That is supremely cool. Are there examples included for pdp_artoolkit? Students had a hard time with the fiducials at first and a simple example goes a long way. Currently, as I said I used the built version of pdp and it loads, when I compiled pdp_0.12-6 it gave a linking error with gsl Please let me know when you complete these, I would love to try them out. Also when are you going to include mu for pd :-) Cheers pp -Original Message- From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Ivica Ico Bukvic Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 9:27 AM Cc: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] pidip I just finished cleaning up both pdp and pidip libs to be fully auto-buildable as part of pd-l2ork (including freenect, artoolkit, opencv, etc.). There are a number of packages you need to install from launchpad in order to get all the externals to build. Stay tuned for the next release coming soon with these enhancements... ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Fwd: Fwd: file format for GEM
-- Forwarded message -- From: Stephan Elliot Perez dreamoftheshoreofanotherwo...@gmail.com Date: Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [PD] Fwd: file format for GEM To: IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at Hi again, I have tried converting to .mov with the photo-jpeg and motion-jpeg codecs, but each time, whether it be with MPEG-Streamclip or Adobe Premiere, the conversion fails near the end. I thought that perhaps there might be be a limit to the space allowed to me on the school's computer, but I find that unlikely... So I still have the problem with some clips (and only with a few) that they are very laggy when played back as .mov files. In Adobe Premiere in the .mts format (AVCHD), this was not a problem. Then I converted them using the Apple Intermediary Codec. Does someone know the cause of this? Thanks, Stephan On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:13 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-02-04 22:29, Stephan Elliot Perez wrote: But with photo-jpeg, some of the files were getting to be over 20 GB. D= 20GB shouldn't be a big deal with todays harddisks. if you care for speed, you might even want to get a (not so cheap) SSD disk that holds all your videos. fgamsdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlEQvw8ACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvQrDwCcCnEoxQ4fWf5uitScHevieKWC imYAni54KqBLg0NcVVc89vgaLBz68xXA =VI7H -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] enhance pd-extended with pd-l2ork featues ?
I just now updated archlinux packages. pd-l2ork now installs to /usr/local... so that prevent collision to pd-ext. fk. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pidip
On 02/06/2013 09:36 AM, Pagano, Patrick wrote: That is supremely cool. Are there examples included for pdp_artoolkit? Students had a hard time with the fiducials at first and a simple example goes a long way. There is one help patch that I tested and it worked (albeit tracking was a bit slow, which may be because my laptop is fairly low-end notebook/netbook). It is fairly straightforward, though. Documentation both for pdp and pidip could use an overhaul, though. Currently, as I said I used the built version of pdp and it loads, when I compiled pdp_0.12-6 it gave a linking error with gsl Please let me know when you complete these, I would love to try them out. If you are using Ubuntu 12.04 64bit, I can send you binaries until I clean things up. The versions I built are pdp 0.12.7 and pidip 0.12.30. AFAICT all externals built successfully. Also when are you going to include mu for pd :-) That's a thought :-). FWIW, mu should work out-of-box with netsend/receive but the texture sharing voodoo is not implemented yet... Cheers pp -Original Message- From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Ivica Ico Bukvic Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 9:27 AM Cc: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] pidip I just finished cleaning up both pdp and pidip libs to be fully auto-buildable as part of pd-l2ork (including freenect, artoolkit, opencv, etc.). There are a number of packages you need to install from launchpad in order to get all the externals to build. Stay tuned for the next release coming soon with these enhancements... ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A Composition, Music Technology Director, DISIS Interactive Sound Intermedia Studio Director, L2Ork Linux Laptop Orchestra Head, ICAT IMPACT Studio Virginia Tech Department of Music Blacksburg, VA 24061-0240 (540) 231-6139 (540) 231-5034 (fax) disis.music.vt.edu l2ork.music.vt.edu ico.bukvic.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pidip
Just be aware that pidip is not free software because it has clauses in its license that restrict what it can be used for. Including pidip in your package means your package can no longer be legally distributed as binaries since the pidip license terms conflict with the GPL license terms. .hc On 02/06/2013 09:27 AM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: I just finished cleaning up both pdp and pidip libs to be fully auto-buildable as part of pd-l2ork (including freenect, artoolkit, opencv, etc.). There are a number of packages you need to install from launchpad in order to get all the externals to build. Stay tuned for the next release coming soon with these enhancements... ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pidip
Let me know how I can help/participate in this. I have a 5 screen theatre I would love to test this in when you get it built. This with Extended View Toolkit could be a very powerful tool(s) pp -Original Message- From: Ivica Ico Bukvic [mailto:i...@vt.edu] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 9:51 AM To: Pagano, Patrick Cc: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] pidip On 02/06/2013 09:36 AM, Pagano, Patrick wrote: That is supremely cool. Are there examples included for pdp_artoolkit? Students had a hard time with the fiducials at first and a simple example goes a long way. There is one help patch that I tested and it worked (albeit tracking was a bit slow, which may be because my laptop is fairly low-end notebook/netbook). It is fairly straightforward, though. Documentation both for pdp and pidip could use an overhaul, though. Currently, as I said I used the built version of pdp and it loads, when I compiled pdp_0.12-6 it gave a linking error with gsl Please let me know when you complete these, I would love to try them out. If you are using Ubuntu 12.04 64bit, I can send you binaries until I clean things up. The versions I built are pdp 0.12.7 and pidip 0.12.30. AFAICT all externals built successfully. Also when are you going to include mu for pd :-) That's a thought :-). FWIW, mu should work out-of-box with netsend/receive but the texture sharing voodoo is not implemented yet... Cheers pp -Original Message- From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Ivica Ico Bukvic Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 9:27 AM Cc: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] pidip I just finished cleaning up both pdp and pidip libs to be fully auto-buildable as part of pd-l2ork (including freenect, artoolkit, opencv, etc.). There are a number of packages you need to install from launchpad in order to get all the externals to build. Stay tuned for the next release coming soon with these enhancements... ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A Composition, Music Technology Director, DISIS Interactive Sound Intermedia Studio Director, L2Ork Linux Laptop Orchestra Head, ICAT IMPACT Studio Virginia Tech Department of Music Blacksburg, VA 24061-0240 (540) 231-6139 (540) 231-5034 (fax) disis.music.vt.edu l2ork.music.vt.edu ico.bukvic.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pidip
I thought there was an earlier version of PiDiP which was and could be included with Pd-extended because it was released under an acceptable/compatible license? On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: Just be aware that pidip is not free software because it has clauses in its license that restrict what it can be used for. Including pidip in your package means your package can no longer be legally distributed as binaries since the pidip license terms conflict with the GPL license terms. .hc On 02/06/2013 09:27 AM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: I just finished cleaning up both pdp and pidip libs to be fully auto-buildable as part of pd-l2ork (including freenect, artoolkit, opencv, etc.). There are a number of packages you need to install from launchpad in order to get all the externals to build. Stay tuned for the next release coming soon with these enhancements... ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pidip
I'm not aware of that. Perhaps you're thinking about how pidip should all be GPL, since it is based on GPL code. The GPL does not allow more license restrictions, and the pidip license does just that. So that means that the GPL code included in pidip is still GPL, but the code that sevy contributed is under his license, and those two licenses conflict. So basically, pidip is not legal to distribute in binary form because of the conflicting licenses within itself. Whether you choose to ignore copyright law is your decision. I am personally fine with people distributing pidip as its own thing and using it with any of my code as long as: 1) the pidip distro is clearly marked as non-free 2) pidip is not bundled with my GPLed code (i.e. as part of pd-extended, pd-l2ork, etc.) .hc On 02/06/2013 11:44 AM, John Harrison wrote: I thought there was an earlier version of PiDiP which was and could be included with Pd-extended because it was released under an acceptable/compatible license? On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: Just be aware that pidip is not free software because it has clauses in its license that restrict what it can be used for. Including pidip in your package means your package can no longer be legally distributed as binaries since the pidip license terms conflict with the GPL license terms. .hc On 02/06/2013 09:27 AM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: I just finished cleaning up both pdp and pidip libs to be fully auto-buildable as part of pd-l2ork (including freenect, artoolkit, opencv, etc.). There are a number of packages you need to install from launchpad in order to get all the externals to build. Stay tuned for the next release coming soon with these enhancements... ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pidip
- Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: John Harrison johnharrison...@gmail.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [PD] pidip I'm not aware of that. Perhaps you're thinking about how pidip should all be GPL, since it is based on GPL code. So he had the bit about not using it for military or government oppression from the very first release? -Jonathan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pidip
No I don't think so Sent from my iPhone On Feb 6, 2013, at 12:12 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: John Harrison johnharrison...@gmail.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [PD] pidip I'm not aware of that. Perhaps you're thinking about how pidip should all be GPL, since it is based on GPL code. So he had the bit about not using it for military or government oppression from the very first release? -Jonathan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] enhance pd-extended with pd-l2ork featues ?
Hi, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2013-02-06 14:20, Charles Goyard wrote: I guess it's more a bug of Gem install script rather than pd-l2ork, but I just wanted to point that out. Gem's install script (aka Makefile) installs everything, including all compiled backends. what makes you say that there is a bug here? You're right. I tried from crash with Gem alone and everything is ok: make clean git pull aclocal ./autogen.sh # ^-- btw this two commands are missing from the readme.txt ./configure --with-pd=/opt/pd-vanilla-0.43/ --prefix=/opt/gem make sudo make install When all goes smooth on first time, everything is ok. However, it seems that if something fails during compilation and you rerun make, then the .so files are not copied if they were produced by the former run of make. It already occured to me when building pd-extended a few months back. It can be a dependency problem in the various targets, a bug in make, something wrong with my system, a personal problem with my cat... Whatever the cause, I get a source directory with everything: sources, gem.pd_linux and *.so, and an install directory with everything but the *.so files (yes, the gem.pd_linux gets copied). I'm not sure if it's a bug or a feature, so apologizes for using the wrong word. Maybe it's worth writing in the README.txt what a make clean can be necessary on some cases. Ivica Bukvic wrote: How did you install pd-l2ork? From source with archlinux's PKGBUILD, with cwiid missing. So I first ran a build, which failed, and then fixed the problem, rerun the build and got into the problems described above. Again, I need as much information as possible about how you installed the software. Well, I'll say the problem comes from make/fix/make. Obviously it's not that important at all. There is/was the same kind of problem in pd-extended with ln -s other existing symlimks that forces you to clean and rebuild everything (I reported that on sf) after hours of compilation just because a symlink exists. Annoying ain't it ? Thank you all for your being patient :), and of course for your great software ! -- Charles ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Fwd: Re: enhance pd-extended with pd-l2ork featues ?
Forgot to copy the list -- Forwarded message -- From: Ivica Bukvic i...@vt.edu Date: Feb 6, 2013 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [PD] enhance pd-extended with pd-l2ork featues ? To: Charles Goyard c...@fsck.fr Cc: On Feb 6, 2013 3:07 PM, Charles Goyard c...@fsck.fr wrote: Hi, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2013-02-06 14:20, Charles Goyard wrote: I guess it's more a bug of Gem install script rather than pd-l2ork, but I just wanted to point that out. Gem's install script (aka Makefile) installs everything, including all compiled backends. what makes you say that there is a bug here? You're right. I tried from crash with Gem alone and everything is ok: make clean git pull aclocal ./autogen.sh # ^-- btw this two commands are missing from the readme.txt ./configure --with-pd=/opt/pd-vanilla-0.43/ --prefix=/opt/gem 2 questions: 1. Why are you compiling gem separately when pd-l2ork compiles it for you and includes it with its binary package? 2. Why are you trying to use pd-vanilla includes with pd-l2ork (unless you are using pd instead of pd-l2ork)? The two are not compatible and as I indicated on the site with a huge warning box mixing the two will cause crashes and unexpected behavior. make sudo make install When all goes smooth on first time, everything is ok. However, it seems that if something fails during compilation and you rerun make, then the .so files are not copied if they were produced by the former run of make. It already occured to me when building pd-extended a few months back. It can be a dependency problem in the various targets, a bug in make, something wrong with my system, a personal problem with my cat... Whatever the cause, I get a source directory with everything: sources, gem.pd_linux and *.so, and an install directory with everything but the *.so files (yes, the gem.pd_linux gets copied). I'm not sure if it's a bug or a feature, so apologizes for using the wrong word. Maybe it's worth writing in the README.txt what a make clean can be necessary on some cases. Ivica Bukvic wrote: How did you install pd-l2ork? From source with archlinux's PKGBUILD, with cwiid missing. So I first ran a build, which failed, and then fixed the problem, rerun the build and got into the problems described above. Again, I need as much information as possible about how you installed the software. Well, I'll say the problem comes from make/fix/make. Obviously it's not that important at all. There is/was the same kind of problem in pd-extended with ln -s other existing symlimks that forces you to clean and rebuild everything (I reported that on sf) after hours of compilation just because a symlink exists. Annoying ain't it ? Thank you all for your being patient :), and of course for your great software ! -- Charles ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Fwd: Re: enhance pd-extended with pd-l2ork featues ?
(also forgot to send to the list) Hi, 1. Why are you compiling gem separately when pd-l2ork compiles it for you and includes it with its binary package? 2. Why are you trying to use pd-vanilla includes with pd-l2ork (unless you are using pd instead of pd-l2ork)? The two are not compatible and as I indicated on the site with a huge warning box mixing the two will cause crashes and unexpected behavior. I use pd-vanilla or pd-extended depending on the project I work on. Since l2ork seems super robust, I'd like to give it a try. For this particular case, the idea was to test whever plain Gem fails to install the .so files or not. So I build it with vanilla as a general testcase. I don't mean to use this build on l2ork or extended. While I'm typing, my computer is building a fresh copy of pd-l2ork with PKGBUILD to see if everything is ok. Also I will take this as a occasion to see what files are in conflict with extended. It seems it's just cyclist, pdsend and pdreceive. So maybe just by renaming these it's possible to have pd-vanilla, pd-extended and pd-l2ork installed in /usr on the same system (how I do that at the moment is have all flavors in /opt/pd-flavor). I hope this makes my intentions clearer. -- Charles ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Fwd: Re: enhance pd-extended with pd-l2ork featues ?
Charles Goyard wrote: While I'm typing, my computer is building a fresh copy of pd-l2ork with PKGBUILD to see if everything is ok. so everythings works fine with the /usr/local/ version. Except that the default.pdl2ork file is missing with the brand new PKGBUILD, so it makes it hard to have good defaults :). Cheers, Charles ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Fwd: Re: enhance pd-extended with pd-l2ork featues ?
On 02/06/2013 04:12 PM, Charles Goyard wrote: Charles Goyard wrote: While I'm typing, my computer is building a fresh copy of pd-l2ork with PKGBUILD to see if everything is ok. so everythings works fine with the /usr/local/ version. Except that the default.pdl2ork file is missing with the brand new PKGBUILD, so it makes it hard to have good defaults :). That is then a bug in PKGBUILD. If you use l2ork script it builds just fine. Fero, When making the PKGBUILD, please make sure to install the file pd-l2ork_git_folder/packages/linux_make/default.pdl2ork into the pd_install_folder/ (e.g. /usr/local/pd-l2ork/default.pdl2ork). You are also probably missing other file icons and shortcuts that are located in the same folder. Please investigate pd-l2ork_git_folder/l2ork_addons/tar_em_up.sh script and see what it does. Also, investigate makefiles in the pd-l2ork_git_folder/packages/linux_make/ folder to see what they do in addition to the core build scripts. Best wishes, Ico Cheers, Charles ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A Composition, Music Technology Director, DISIS Interactive Sound Intermedia Studio Director, L2Ork Linux Laptop Orchestra Head, ICAT IMPACT Studio Virginia Tech Department of Music Blacksburg, VA 24061-0240 (540) 231-6139 (540) 231-5034 (fax) disis.music.vt.edu l2ork.music.vt.edu ico.bukvic.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] online video conferencing
Hi all, I am looking for an accessible way to do a video conference with multiple parties (4 or 5) for a telematic performance. The bandwidth is there and visual latency is not an issue in this case. Any ideas about a stable platform for this would be greatly appreciated. In the past I worked with Access Grid, which was quite stable, but is very tricky to install on Snow Leopard and doesn't work at all on Lion and later. It still works on Windows, but not all the parties can get a Windows system, Google Hangout should work (I haven't tested it yet) but it doesn't allow you, to my knowledge, to separate the video windows and reorganize them on the screen. There are some paid cloud-conferencing services that can work for this, but as far as I know they work on subscription. If you know of such a service that allows renting a video conferencing service temporarily that could be helpful too. Many thanks for any help Eldad ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] online video conferencing
Look at IOCOM Sent from my iPhone On Feb 6, 2013, at 6:02 PM, eldad tsabary tazberryd...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am looking for an accessible way to do a video conference with multiple parties (4 or 5) for a telematic performance. The bandwidth is there and visual latency is not an issue in this case. Any ideas about a stable platform for this would be greatly appreciated. In the past I worked with Access Grid, which was quite stable, but is very tricky to install on Snow Leopard and doesn't work at all on Lion and later. It still works on Windows, but not all the parties can get a Windows system, Google Hangout should work (I haven't tested it yet) but it doesn't allow you, to my knowledge, to separate the video windows and reorganize them on the screen. There are some paid cloud-conferencing services that can work for this, but as far as I know they work on subscription. If you know of such a service that allows renting a video conferencing service temporarily that could be helpful too. Many thanks for any help Eldad ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [cec-c] online video conferencing
in our uni we use this http://www.bigbluebutton.org/ ;) On 6 Feb 2013, at 23:01, eldad tsabary tazberryd...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am looking for an accessible way to do a video conference with multiple parties (4 or 5) for a telematic performance. The bandwidth is there and visual latency is not an issue in this case. Any ideas about a stable platform for this would be greatly appreciated. In the past I worked with Access Grid, which was quite stable, but is very tricky to install on Snow Leopard and doesn't work at all on Lion and later. It still works on Windows, but not all the parties can get a Windows system, Google Hangout should work (I haven't tested it yet) but it doesn't allow you, to my knowledge, to separate the video windows and reorganize them on the screen. There are some paid cloud-conferencing services that can work for this, but as far as I know they work on subscription. If you know of such a service that allows renting a video conferencing service temporarily that could be helpful too. Many thanks for any help Eldad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CEC-Conference group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cec-conference+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] RE : package system for Pd WAS: Plugin auto install feature to Pure data
Try writing something in a language you are familiar with. Anything working is better than nothing :) Tcl is a bit odd, but its pretty easy for almost all of what this project would require. .hc On 02/05/2013 11:08 PM, Billy Stiltner wrote: sounds right up my alley but i have not a clue about how to write a line of code in tcl , python nor lua. i was trying to convert the big bunch of wafscript to just a simpl makefile for compiling pugl today and by the time i could get to the end of the spaghetti i realized i don't even remember how to write a make file haha. but i'm still chuggin away at it. On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: I think really the key is to find someone who is going to start working on this, then help them figure out the issues as they request it. I think its counterproductive if we set up too many conditions of starting if none of us are going to work on it :-) Then they can decide Tcl or something else, client or server first, or whatever else. Who wants to try the first sketch? We have a package format to start with, its something, but it'll surely need to be changed to support all the ideas: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/LibraryTemplate .hc On 02/05/2013 12:48 PM, colet.patrice wrote: I dont think the client is the first thing to head on, because I guess it will depend on server architecture. Anyway tcl seems to most suited for that, there would no need to add some more junk into pd bin folder... Envoyé depuis mon appareil mobile Samsung Message d'origine De : Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Date : 05/02/2013 16:20 (GMT+00:00) A : pd-list@iem.at Objet : [PD] package system for Pd WAS: Plugin auto install feature to Pure data While I agree with all this, we don't need a full design spec to start coding. I think the next step is for someone to put together a rough prototype to start with, rather than get bogged down in the details of something that has been talked about for years, but never implemented :-) Then it can be implemented bit by bit as people have time and interest. So the first question to ask before starting it: which language? Is Tcl workable for people? .hc On 02/05/2013 10:36 AM, Charles Z Henry wrote: I think that it's a great idea--but the devil's in the details. I think you need to have a good guiding vision to help you make the decisions about the implementation--a top-down design On the client side, you have to have information about what packages are installed, where they're installed, what flavor of pd they are installed for, version information, more? Dependencies: within Pd, you could be distributing patches that require some externals--I think it's best for a Pd package system to only reference dependencies that include other abstractions or externals, not system libraries. Maintenance: a system like this needs to be *easy* to maintain---only a few binary targets can be supported. The rest will need to compile from source. I would start out like this make a list and argue point-by-point until you have a clear plan. Not that I'm much one to *complete* my projects... but I have a lot of insight on failing :) On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 3:10 AM, colet.patrice colet.patr...@free.fr wrote: Hello, that's a quite interesting subject I've been thinking about for pdx since a time, thank you for the contribution... like you said it might be complicated to resolve all dependences required by an external, so I think that adding other dependences like php sql or json would make it even more complicated... Why not just using the native client interpreted langage, TCL-TK? With the help of a command line like wget included with the tcl script and a bunch of pkg files that should be enough, wouldn't it? Message d'origine De : f...@rendera.com.br Date : 03/02/2013 20:22 (GMT+00:00) A : pd-list@iem.at Objet : [PD] Plugin auto install feature to Pure data Hi list I would like to write before but unfortunately I couldn't. Some weeks ago people started to talk about the development of some auto install mechanism to Pure Data, like the apt-get. It is an amazing idea. I researched and developed some thing like it to my master degree and I would like to contrib with my 3 cents. I studied the plugin structure of Netbeans, Eclipse, Fire Fox, deb and rpm and my contribution is about it. Sorry if I am a little bit prolix. The first thing is to create a plugin package. A a single file to group a lot of files. It can be a zip package, tar, gzip or anything that already has some C open source API to pack / unpack. This way we can upload / download a single file and extract it localy. I will call it the package. Inside the package is necessary to have a package descriptor. It can be a XML file, CSV, txt, JSON or any kind of structured file to describe the
Re: [PD] Plugin auto install feature to Pure data
This stuff is already pretty well defined in the library template and the *-meta.pd file. I think the meta file would be the place to add things like dependencies also. http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Libdir http://puredata.info/docs/developer/LibraryTemplate .hc On 02/05/2013 04:11 PM, f...@rendera.com.br wrote: I agree that depencencies should not install libs. Since it seems to be the biggest problem, maybe it should be postponed. Yes, the repository maintenance can be solved latter too. Let's first have a repository and then think about the best way to keep it on date. :-) I don't have skills with TCL but I agree that it is a good choice. Is there how to open zip/tar/something files in TCL? If it can open the package, it's perfect. IMO, the first step is to install locally. Define a package structure, a package header and the install script. Probably it can be used by the remote install. I suggest the following package structure: /content.txt /bin/files -to compiled files (architecture dependent) /help/files -to help files (architecture independent) /tcl/files -to gui files (architecture independent) This structure should be compacted / grouped in a file with some name convention like package_name.version.pd_pkg. The content.txt can be as follow: name: author: version: key-words: web-site: license: flavor: dependencies: instructions: The install script should select a package, open it, copy the external to the external dir, copy the help and tcl files to the correct folder, rename the content.txt to the package name + version and copy it to an folder designed for this kind of file. Cheers f schiavoni ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Plugin auto install feature to Pure data
Thanks Hans! Just one doubt: How does it work for different architectures? Should we pack windows, linux and Mac in different packages? Or can we include them in one package and the installer copies just the right one? cheers f schiavoni This stuff is already pretty well defined in the library template and the *-meta.pd file. I think the meta file would be the place to add things like dependencies also. http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Libdir http://puredata.info/docs/developer/LibraryTemplate .hc On 02/05/2013 04:11 PM, f...@rendera.com.br wrote: I agree that depencencies should not install libs. Since it seems to be the biggest problem, maybe it should be postponed. Yes, the repository maintenance can be solved latter too. Let's first have a repository and then think about the best way to keep it on date. :-) I don't have skills with TCL but I agree that it is a good choice. Is there how to open zip/tar/something files in TCL? If it can open the package, it's perfect. IMO, the first step is to install locally. Define a package structure, a package header and the install script. Probably it can be used by the remote install. I suggest the following package structure: /content.txt /bin/files -to compiled files (architecture dependent) /help/files -to help files (architecture independent) /tcl/files -to gui files (architecture independent) This structure should be compacted / grouped in a file with some name convention like package_name.version.pd_pkg. The content.txt can be as follow: name: author: version: key-words: web-site: license: flavor: dependencies: instructions: The install script should select a package, open it, copy the external to the external dir, copy the help and tcl files to the correct folder, rename the content.txt to the package name + version and copy it to an folder designed for this kind of file. Cheers f schiavoni ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] online video conferencing
Hi Eldad! Recently we had a netmusic conference (http://netmusic2013.wordpress.com/) and we used jacktrip for audio streams and bluejeans (http://bluejeans.com/) to the video streams. Instead of some problems with bluejeans, it worked. Bests Schiavoni Hi all, I am looking for an accessible way to do a video conference with multiple parties (4 or 5) for a telematic performance. The bandwidth is there and visual latency is not an issue in this case. Any ideas about a stable platform for this would be greatly appreciated. In the past I worked with Access Grid, which was quite stable, but is very tricky to install on Snow Leopard and doesn't work at all on Lion and later. It still works on Windows, but not all the parties can get a Windows system, Google Hangout should work (I haven't tested it yet) but it doesn't allow you, to my knowledge, to separate the video windows and reorganize them on the screen. There are some paid cloud-conferencing services that can work for this, but as far as I know they work on subscription. If you know of such a service that allows renting a video conferencing service temporarily that could be helpful too. Many thanks for any help Eldad ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] online video conferencing
This is an awesome tool Do you know their costs? Thanks Eldad On 2013-02-06, at 7:04 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote: Look at IOCOM Sent from my iPhone On Feb 6, 2013, at 6:02 PM, eldad tsabary tazberryd...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am looking for an accessible way to do a video conference with multiple parties (4 or 5) for a telematic performance. The bandwidth is there and visual latency is not an issue in this case. Any ideas about a stable platform for this would be greatly appreciated. In the past I worked with Access Grid, which was quite stable, but is very tricky to install on Snow Leopard and doesn't work at all on Lion and later. It still works on Windows, but not all the parties can get a Windows system, Google Hangout should work (I haven't tested it yet) but it doesn't allow you, to my knowledge, to separate the video windows and reorganize them on the screen. There are some paid cloud-conferencing services that can work for this, but as far as I know they work on subscription. If you know of such a service that allows renting a video conferencing service temporarily that could be helpful too. Many thanks for any help Eldad ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] RE : Re: Plugin auto install feature to Pure data
Just to add one cent, it looks simpler to put everything on same package, and should be faster for making server backups. Patrice Colet Message d'origine De : f...@rendera.com.br Date : 07/02/2013 5:01 (GMT+00:00) A : pd-list@iem.at Objet : Re: [PD] Plugin auto install feature to Pure data Thanks Hans! Just one doubt: How does it work for different architectures? Should we pack windows, linux and Mac in different packages? Or can we include them in one package and the installer copies just the right one? cheers f schiavoni This stuff is already pretty well defined in the library template and the *-meta.pd file. I think the meta file would be the place to add things like dependencies also. http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Libdir http://puredata.info/docs/developer/LibraryTemplate .hc On 02/05/2013 04:11 PM, f...@rendera.com.br wrote: I agree that depencencies should not install libs. Since it seems to be the biggest problem, maybe it should be postponed. Yes, the repository maintenance can be solved latter too. Let's first have a repository and then think about the best way to keep it on date. :-) I don't have skills with TCL but I agree that it is a good choice. Is there how to open zip/tar/something files in TCL? If it can open the package, it's perfect. IMO, the first step is to install locally. Define a package structure, a package header and the install script. Probably it can be used by the remote install. I suggest the following package structure: /content.txt /bin/files -to compiled files (architecture dependent) /help/files -to help files (architecture independent) /tcl/files -to gui files (architecture independent) This structure should be compacted / grouped in a file with some name convention like package_name.version.pd_pkg. The content.txt can be as follow: name: author: version: key-words: web-site: license: flavor: dependencies: instructions: The install script should select a package, open it, copy the external to the external dir, copy the help and tcl files to the correct folder, rename the content.txt to the package name + version and copy it to an folder designed for this kind of file. Cheers f schiavoni ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
