[PD] more output channels problem
Hi friends, I cant set up more than 2 audio channels outputs. Inputs are working correctly (I use 4 with no problems) When I'am trying it hangs with segfault. pd-extended 0.43-4 archlinux jack presonus 1818VSL ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] subnormal numbers explained
Quoth katja, on 13/03/2013 10:14: Subnormal numbers are a pain in the ass, they cause substantially increased CPU load without doing anything useful for audio DSP. Unfortunately it can happen in some Pd objects (notably [freeverb~]), and spoil the performance of a Pd patch. Yes I eventually found this out and started putting [freeverb~] in a subpatch with a [env~] connected to [sel 0] and then to a [switch~] object to turn off dsp when the reverb tail has finished. The logic ended up getting quite complicated but it did the job! James ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Syphonserver/client for pd
Helo Does anyne have a working syphonserver.pd_darwin? I had a version working with Gem92, but 93.x no worky i am hoping someone could share their lib I am on OSX obviously i would like to use the most recent pd-extendd release but i will roll back to 42-5 if someone has a working version i can use for an upcoming show pp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows
People I made a very stupid mistake..! :/ hehehehehe Jack don't need a new pd-extended compilation to work together. Jack run over asio driver in windows. All software with asio support can see jackrouter in asio on driver settings. I have tested it with pd-extended 0.43.4 windows version downloaded today 14/03/2013 and Live 8 and Live 9. The unique specificity is that in Live 8, we need to run all in administrator mode, jack and pd-extended. ps.: in last pd-extended 0.43.4 version at this moment I can't see any problem has as happening in wild compilation. 2013/2/11 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at The 0.44.0 nightly builds include Jack for Windows support, if you want to try. .hc On Feb 3, 2013, at 8:12 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote: The 0.44 are working with jack? I can test it..(?) 2013/2/3 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at That's a bummer, but I don't think this story is over, so leave the wiki. I think that Jack on Windows is relatively new, so its going to have little problems. And through contributions like yours, it will get better. For example, I included the jack for windows stuff in pd-extended 0.44, so the nightly builds should include it starting tomorrow: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2013-02-04/ .hc On 02/03/2013 07:20 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote: ok... I yeld... That solution don't work well yet.. When I disable UAC settings in Windows the only thing happend is the app can start itself in administrator mode... The problem is when I run pd in administrator mode, it are bugged... It can't load objects correctly like a video I send previously. Is the best thing delete the wiki?? 2013/1/28 Esteban Viveros emvive...@gmail.com Ok.. Now we have some information on wiki page.. http://puredata.info/docs/PdExtended0434JackAbletonLive8 Ready to changes..! ;) 2013/1/28 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at This is great! Could you create a wiki page here and put the info there? That's an easy place for people to find it when they are trying to set it up themselves. http://puredata.info/docs/ .hc On 01/28/2013 12:56 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote: At this moment I can use ableton live and pd with jack with a custom compiled version of pd-extended.. You can try in your setup and relate if that work or you too.. You need: pd-extended jack built: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6TScIMkPOGJSHdwZzJVM19CQ00/edit Jack Audio: *Mixed 64/32 bit JACK 1.9.9* in http://jackaudio.org/download Read this: To install Jack: http://jackaudio.org/jack_on_windows Probably you need Asio4All, at now the website of asio4all is out, but you can download it here for example: http://asio4all.softonic.com.br/ After uncompress pd-extended, install correctly jack, you need to change UAC settings in your windows. In my case I'm using Windows 7 x64, and it solve all the problems with Ableton Live, Jack and pd sync. To change UAC settings (disabling): http://www.petri.co.il/disable-uac-in-windows-7.htm Hope it's works! 2013/1/28 batinste dwanaf...@yahoo.fr pd in Live... I'm drooling. Keep us posted about how well you make it work with a recent pd version, i'm very interested. On 28/01/2013 12:45, Esteban Viveros wrote: That's sound very nice! I will try to install on Ableton pdvst again in the coming days. It will be very good to get everything running cool place .. ;) I will also open a new topic to better organize the topic for future google research .. Ok? 2013/1/27 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at On 01/27/2013 01:49 PM, Patrice Colet wrote: De: Esteban Viveros emvive...@gmail.com Some time ago I tried to run pdvst without sucess. ah if you put the vststuff.dll into vstplugin directory, and the pdvst folder that contains vststuff.pd patches vststuff.pdv files along with the vst host executable (it should be 'Program' folder for Ableton Live) it should be ok. I've started some time ago to give a try into recompiling pdvst with a recent pd version, but no success yet. It would be nice to have some patches to apply into pd-extended sources for having an actual pdvst version, but if I'm the only one interested into using this, it might not be worth the effort. I've never looked at those patches because I've never really used VSTs. But post them here and I'll look at them. If its possible to include them, I'm up for it. I think I remember that pdvst has a custom scheduler. The best thing then would be to port it to the new pluggable scheduler stuff used by pd~ .hc ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Esteban Viveros (27) 8815 7170 (27) 3066 0359 (11) 95761 4125 (11) 2738 7868
[PD] Pd-extended stopped working
Yesterday I was doing some patch and pd got jammed, got to force quit and when I restarted it was still getting stuck. So I decided to remoce the application (with Appcleaner) and downloading/installing the package. So I did but the problem persists!! WTF?? What can I do?? (My computer is a late 2008 MacBook 2.1GHZ Core 2 Duo 4GB with OSX 10.7 running on it) Thanx! -- Òscar Martínez Carmona ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended stopped working
I think 10.7 make pd trying to reopen the last patch opened at launch. I don't know if applcleaner clean this. Try to erase the directory : ~/Library/Saved Application State/org.pdextended.something... To disable completely, see here for example: http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20110918051930924 forget 10.7... n Le 14/03/13 15:59, Òscar Martínez Carmona a écrit : Yesterday I was doing some patch and pd got jammed, got to force quit and when I restarted it was still getting stuck. So I decided to remoce the application (with Appcleaner) and downloading/installing the package. So I did but the problem persists!! WTF?? What can I do?? (My computer is a late 2008 MacBook 2.1GHZ Core 2 Duo 4GB with OSX 10.7 running on it) Thanx! -- http://nim.on.free.fr ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] can't load pdp
I can't load pdp in Pure Data 0.43.0-4 and Pure Data 0.43.4-extended. I work with Ubuntustudio 12.04 running in an Acer Aspire One. In vanilla I wrote pdp at startup setting and console says /usr/lib/pd/extra/pdp.pd_linux: /usr/lib/libgsl.so.0: undefined symbol: cblas_dasum pdp: can't load library I installed pd-pdp from repository and libgsl0ldbl Thanks -- óscar santis escultor, pintor, ruidista http://www.oscarsantis.cl http://www.flickr.com/oscarsantis http://www.soundcloud.com/oscarsantis tel: ++ 56 9 84280381 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] can't load pdp
get the working version from the pd-extended download pp From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] on behalf of oscar santis [pelaosan...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 11:25 AM To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: [PD] can't load pdp I can't load pdp in Pure Data 0.43.0-4 and Pure Data 0.43.4-extended. I work with Ubuntustudio 12.04 running in an Acer Aspire One. In vanilla I wrote pdp at startup setting and console says /usr/lib/pd/extra/pdp.pd_linux: /usr/lib/libgsl.so.0: undefined symbol: cblas_dasum pdp: can't load library I installed pd-pdp from repository and libgsl0ldbl Thanks -- óscar santis escultor, pintor, ruidista http://www.oscarsantis.cl http://www.flickr.com/oscarsantis http://www.soundcloud.com/oscarsantis tel: ++ 56 9 84280381 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Missing pdp objects in pd-extended
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:49 AM, dreamer drea...@puikheid.nl wrote: Odd, these are actually installed in /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdp/ Strange that they are not found then. If I add this path it gets removed again after restarting pd. I now added this path in .pdextended and it shows up in the preferences. However it still doesn't load these objects. I was browsing the help and looking at pdp/examples/example01.pd (and others) I am missing: pdp_conv_sobel_edge pdp_motion_phase pdp_gradient pdp_blur pdp_grey pdp_saturation pdp_cheby3o pdp_save_png_sequence pdp_diff pdp_agc pdp_contrast pdp_motion_fade pdp_pps I don't know if these where ever part of pd-extended. Have they been removed? This makes most of the examples pretty useless. -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Accessible with your email software or over the web ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] More Sensor Questions inc libfreenect on the Rpi
Hi again, So after some more research I've come to the conclusion that the ultrasonics aren't going to do what I would like - not a wide enough beam and unnecessary accuracy. Perhaps if I say what I would like 'something' to do, someone may say oh, you want one, two, n of *these*. I have a digital wind chime thingy that now works ok on the RPi. What I would like is to be able to put it outdoors with *something* that will *see*when large objects, like people, are coming towards and moving away from it and then I can make use of that data to send force in pmpd to the chimes and then the chimes can klang into each other. Been looking at the kinects but it seems I'll need GEM to be able to explore Matthias's very excellent looking freenect lib which is a no-no on the RPi currently. My friend and I have rounded up a nice solar panel, we've got some old broken soundstick speakers that we've hacked into and a weather-proof box plus a pole to hang it all on. Should be a nice little project when it's done but a we're bit stuck on this problem at the moment... Any suggestions people? Cheers, Julian ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Send Key Commands to PD w/ -nogui without X (from console)
How can I best send key commands to pd when i do -nogui from console (no x windows) to be received with [key], for example? im on raspbian/linux my google searches have not ended so well on this subject m -- m.e.grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Send Key Commands to PD w/ -nogui without X (from console)
Quoth me.grimm, on 14/03/2013 16:57: How can I best send key commands to pd when i do -nogui from console (no x windows) to be received with [key], for example? im on raspbian/linux my google searches have not ended so well on this subject m use [hid] and read this: http://puredata.info/docs/tutorials/HowToReadHIDDevicesInLinuxWithoutBeingRoot ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended stopped working
back on the list. tilde is your home. it must be /Users/yourname/Library/Saved Application State otherwise can you run pd in a terminal with -stderr: /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pdextended -stderr and report here. which version of pd? good luck! n Le 14/03/13 18:09, Òscar Martínez Carmona a écrit : Hey, thanx for replying, i've just tried that and cant find that directory, neither on the terminal and I've reinstalled pd several times, another solution? Thanx! El dijous 14 de març de 2013, Nicolas Montgermont ha escrit: I think 10.7 make pd trying to reopen the last patch opened at launch. I don't know if applcleaner clean this. Try to erase the directory : ~/Library/Saved Application State/org.pdextended.something... To disable completely, see here for example: http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20110918051930924 forget 10.7... n Le 14/03/13 15:59, Òscar Martínez Carmona a écrit : Yesterday I was doing some patch and pd got jammed, got to force quit and when I restarted it was still getting stuck. So I decided to remoce the application (with Appcleaner) and downloading/installing the package. So I did but the problem persists!! WTF?? What can I do?? (My computer is a late 2008 MacBook 2.1GHZ Core 2 Duo 4GB with OSX 10.7 running on it) Thanx! -- http://nim.on.free.fr ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Òscar Martínez Carmona -- http://nim.on.free.fr ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Send Key Commands to PD w/ -nogui without X (from console)
hmmm... i forgot about that. I will try it... no way in vanilla i take it? m On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 1:17 PM, James Dunn ja...@4thharmonic.com wrote: Quoth me.grimm, on 14/03/2013 16:57: How can I best send key commands to pd when i do -nogui from console (no x windows) to be received with [key], for example? im on raspbian/linux my google searches have not ended so well on this subject m use [hid] and read this: http://puredata.info/docs/tutorials/HowToReadHIDDevicesInLinuxWithoutBeingRoot -- m.e.grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Send Key Commands to PD w/ -nogui without X (from console)
Quoth me.grimm, on 14/03/2013 17:21: hmmm... i forgot about that. I will try it... no way in vanilla i take it? m not that I'm aware of James ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] TCP/IP communication from the unix server to the Pure Data
Martin , thank you for everything, I got it working now even with floating point numbers, here is the rundown of the method [solved] BUT BEFORE FOLLOWING THIS, NOTE THAT FLOATING POINT NUMBER IS SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO PARSE, IF YOU LIKE YOUR NERVES. The first problem is 1. Error was in using on the server side an ntohl() on a float number, which corrupts it heavily. Mark my words, ntohl() is an enemy of the float. Just receive it reversed and manually work out the conversion, you HAVE to do it manually anyways :P 2. Float is a complex standard, even more complex when Pure Data converts everything to decimal partially per byte. Separate Mantissa, Exponent and Sign using bitwise operators [][], and work out the float conversion. Follow this thread for Mantissa, that one is the hardest Convert floating point number from binary to a decimal number http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15393113/convert-floating-point-number-from-binary-to-a-decimal-number/ Good luck ^^ //Petar On 13/3/13 1:51 PM, Martin Peach wrote: I attached a patch that should reconstruct a long if it's bigendian, although it doesn't give 100 for the sequence you provided... The floating point numbers are more difficult, you need to separate the sign, exponent and mantissa and then put it all together. Martin On 2013-03-13 06:08, Petar Jercic wrote: Wow, these methods you proposed made me realize that I was using the wrong endian method on my UNIX server, it has to be ntohl(). Now I got it correct, and I am receiving data (bytes) in the correct order. *: 0 0 0 2 0 10 114 26 0 0 0 51 0 16 242 78 * Sample data might be 2 100 51 2000.56, which could be read in the data ... somewhat :)* **Now my question is, how do I get four compact numbers to work with?* Now I have a series of bytes, but at least in the correct order. I haven't been able to extract the data using [bytes2any] and [route], so I prepared a small patch to demonstrate the problem, maybe you can show me by modifying it? //Petar On 11/3/13 2:31 PM, Martin Peach wrote: On 2013-03-10 17:58, Petar Jercic wrote: Sorry, I can't use ASCII text as communication method, since I plan to send large quantities of data at high speed rates, I need to optimize it as much as possible. Compared to streaming bytes, ASCII is inefficient up to a several orders of magnitude. Is there a method for correct endianness in Pure Data, like these C functions: ntohs()--Network to Host Short ntohl()--Network to Host Long You can do that with Pd like this (ntohs): [unpack 0 0] | | [* 256]| | | [+ ] | [ \ or [unpack 0 0] | | | [* 256] | | [+ ] | [ \ for littleendian. Floats are harder but still possible. The main difficulty is in splitting the incoming stream in the right places. (I think ASCII is not orders of magnitude slower, and it is also less ambiguous). Martin On 09/3/13 5:15 PM, Martin Peach wrote: It's probably safer to get the server to send the numbers as ASCII text, to avoid disagreements about endianness and floating-point representation. Then, to extract the numbers, you could use [moocow/bytes2any] or make a custom parser using [pdlua]. Martin On 2013-03-09 10:55, Petar Jercic wrote: Apparently [netclient] on the Pure Data side cannot receive nothing else than ; delimited messages. So the solution for the problem: *My question is, is there a way to send something other than string message to Pure Data, like byte-stream or serialized number stream? Can Pure Data receive such messages?* The solution is to use [tcpclient], it can receive byte-stream data. Now I have another problem regarding the data read, on how to convert it back to usable numbers. From my UNIX server I am sending a structure typedef struct { int var_code; intsample_time; int hr; floaths; } phy_data; Sample data might be 2 100 51 2000.56 When received and printed in Pure Data I get output like this: : 2 0 0 0 104 34 9 0 51 0 0 0 235 50 48 69 You can notice number 2 and number 51 clearly, I guess the others are correct as well. Might be some network inversion of LSB/MSB. *How can I get these numbers back to a usable format and get them in separate variables? *//Petar* * ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Send Key Commands to PD w/ -nogui without X (from console)
- Original Message - From: me.grimm megr...@gmail.com To: James Dunn ja...@4thharmonic.com Cc: pd_list Listserve pd-list@iem.at Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [PD] Send Key Commands to PD w/ -nogui without X (from console) hmmm... i forgot about that. I will try it... no way in vanilla i take it? Sure... 1) Put a [netreceive 4321] in a patch like so: [netreceive 4321] | [220 250, 330 300 2500, 440 300 3800, 550 75 6000, 525 20 6250, 0 300 9000; pd dsp 1( | [vline~] | [osc~] | [dac~] 2) In a terminal type: pdsend 4321 3) the 'pdsend' program waits for FUDI input (selector args semicolon) so type something like: Hello World; 4) The message Hello World will come out the left outlet of [netreceive] and trigger the sound So if you're ok typing FUDI messages like this example to trigger commands, all you need is to type a command like play; or stop; or whatever and [route] it when it comes out netreceive's outlet. If you want to trigger events more efficiently you probably need a shell script that catches your input and converts it to ascii numbers and then hands it over to pdsend, one character at a time (not sure how to do that). That way you'd just be sending sequences of numbers like 113;, 104;, etc. and [routing] them when they come out of netreceive. You can also use the old behavior of netreceive which interprets the selector of your message as the receive symbol. You could then generate genuine key events (i.e., key 1 114 0 1 that will be received by [key] objects. But then if someone happens to get inside your network and find that port open, they can start building arbitrary Pd patches on your machine. :) -Jonathan m On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 1:17 PM, James Dunn ja...@4thharmonic.com wrote: Quoth me.grimm, on 14/03/2013 16:57: How can I best send key commands to pd when i do -nogui from console (no x windows) to be received with [key], for example? im on raspbian/linux my google searches have not ended so well on this subject m use [hid] and read this: http://puredata.info/docs/tutorials/HowToReadHIDDevicesInLinuxWithoutBeingRoot -- m.e.grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Send Key Commands to PD w/ -nogui without X (from console)
3) the 'pdsend' program waits for FUDI input this might be the best solution for now until i take a look into the shell scripting you suggested. although, how to make it all on one line (one command). Variations in this: megrimm-mbp:~ megrimm$ (pd -open netreceive-help.pd ) ; (pdsend 3000) fail or me. m On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: - Original Message - From: me.grimm megr...@gmail.com To: James Dunn ja...@4thharmonic.com Cc: pd_list Listserve pd-list@iem.at Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [PD] Send Key Commands to PD w/ -nogui without X (from console) hmmm... i forgot about that. I will try it... no way in vanilla i take it? Sure... 1) Put a [netreceive 4321] in a patch like so: [netreceive 4321] | [220 250, 330 300 2500, 440 300 3800, 550 75 6000, 525 20 6250, 0 300 9000; pd dsp 1( | [vline~] | [osc~] | [dac~] 2) In a terminal type: pdsend 4321 3) the 'pdsend' program waits for FUDI input (selector args semicolon) so type something like: Hello World; 4) The message Hello World will come out the left outlet of [netreceive] and trigger the sound So if you're ok typing FUDI messages like this example to trigger commands, all you need is to type a command like play; or stop; or whatever and [route] it when it comes out netreceive's outlet. If you want to trigger events more efficiently you probably need a shell script that catches your input and converts it to ascii numbers and then hands it over to pdsend, one character at a time (not sure how to do that). That way you'd just be sending sequences of numbers like 113;, 104;, etc. and [routing] them when they come out of netreceive. You can also use the old behavior of netreceive which interprets the selector of your message as the receive symbol. You could then generate genuine key events (i.e., key 1 114 0 1 that will be received by [key] objects. But then if someone happens to get inside your network and find that port open, they can start building arbitrary Pd patches on your machine. :) -Jonathan m On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 1:17 PM, James Dunn ja...@4thharmonic.com wrote: Quoth me.grimm, on 14/03/2013 16:57: How can I best send key commands to pd when i do -nogui from console (no x windows) to be received with [key], for example? im on raspbian/linux my google searches have not ended so well on this subject m use [hid] and read this: http://puredata.info/docs/tutorials/HowToReadHIDDevicesInLinuxWithoutBeingRoot -- m.e.grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- m.e.grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] TCP/IP communication from the unix server to the Pure Data
OK, I added two externals into svn at http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/externals/mrpeach/serializer/ [b2f] will take four bytes and return a float, while [f2b] takes a float and outputs four bytes. (This is really easy in c...) Of course it only works if the floating-point format is the same at both ends. Martin On 2013-03-14 13:41, Petar Jercic wrote: Martin , thank you for everything, I got it working now even with floating point numbers, here is the rundown of the method [solved] BUT BEFORE FOLLOWING THIS, NOTE THAT FLOATING POINT NUMBER IS SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO PARSE, IF YOU LIKE YOUR NERVES. The first problem is 1. Error was in using on the server side an ntohl() on a float number, which corrupts it heavily. Mark my words, ntohl() is an enemy of the float. Just receive it reversed and manually work out the conversion, you HAVE to do it manually anyways :P 2. Float is a complex standard, even more complex when Pure Data converts everything to decimal partially per byte. Separate Mantissa, Exponent and Sign using bitwise operators [][], and work out the float conversion. Follow this thread for Mantissa, that one is the hardest Convert floating point number from binary to a decimal number http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15393113/convert-floating-point-number-from-binary-to-a-decimal-number/ Good luck ^^ //Petar On 13/3/13 1:51 PM, Martin Peach wrote: I attached a patch that should reconstruct a long if it's bigendian, although it doesn't give 100 for the sequence you provided... The floating point numbers are more difficult, you need to separate the sign, exponent and mantissa and then put it all together. Martin On 2013-03-13 06:08, Petar Jercic wrote: Wow, these methods you proposed made me realize that I was using the wrong endian method on my UNIX server, it has to be ntohl(). Now I got it correct, and I am receiving data (bytes) in the correct order. *: 0 0 0 2 0 10 114 26 0 0 0 51 0 16 242 78 * Sample data might be 2 100 51 2000.56, which could be read in the data ... somewhat :)* **Now my question is, how do I get four compact numbers to work with?* Now I have a series of bytes, but at least in the correct order. I haven't been able to extract the data using [bytes2any] and [route], so I prepared a small patch to demonstrate the problem, maybe you can show me by modifying it? //Petar On 11/3/13 2:31 PM, Martin Peach wrote: On 2013-03-10 17:58, Petar Jercic wrote: Sorry, I can't use ASCII text as communication method, since I plan to send large quantities of data at high speed rates, I need to optimize it as much as possible. Compared to streaming bytes, ASCII is inefficient up to a several orders of magnitude. Is there a method for correct endianness in Pure Data, like these C functions: ntohs()--Network to Host Short ntohl()--Network to Host Long You can do that with Pd like this (ntohs): [unpack 0 0] | | [* 256]| | | [+ ] | [ \ or [unpack 0 0] | | | [* 256] | | [+ ] | [ \ for littleendian. Floats are harder but still possible. The main difficulty is in splitting the incoming stream in the right places. (I think ASCII is not orders of magnitude slower, and it is also less ambiguous). Martin On 09/3/13 5:15 PM, Martin Peach wrote: It's probably safer to get the server to send the numbers as ASCII text, to avoid disagreements about endianness and floating-point representation. Then, to extract the numbers, you could use [moocow/bytes2any] or make a custom parser using [pdlua]. Martin On 2013-03-09 10:55, Petar Jercic wrote: Apparently [netclient] on the Pure Data side cannot receive nothing else than ; delimited messages. So the solution for the problem: *My question is, is there a way to send something other than string message to Pure Data, like byte-stream or serialized number stream? Can Pure Data receive such messages?* The solution is to use [tcpclient], it can receive byte-stream data. Now I have another problem regarding the data read, on how to convert it back to usable numbers. From my UNIX server I am sending a structure typedef struct { int var_code; intsample_time; int hr; floaths; } phy_data; Sample data might be 2 100 51 2000.56 When received and printed in Pure Data I get output like this: : 2 0 0 0 104 34 9 0 51 0 0 0 235 50 48 69 You can notice number 2 and number 51 clearly, I guess the others are correct as well. Might be some network inversion of LSB/MSB. *How can I get these numbers back to a usable format and get them in separate variables? *//Petar* * ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -
Re: [PD] Send Key Commands to PD w/ -nogui without X (from console)
- Original Message - From: me.grimm megr...@gmail.com To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: James Dunn ja...@4thharmonic.com; pd_list Listserve pd-list@iem.at Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [PD] Send Key Commands to PD w/ -nogui without X (from console) 3) the 'pdsend' program waits for FUDI input this might be the best solution for now until i take a look into the shell scripting you suggested. although, how to make it all on one line (one command). Variations in this: megrimm-mbp:~ megrimm$ (pd -open netreceive-help.pd ) ; (pdsend 3000) fail or me. I don't understand networking very well, but it looks like the netreceive has to bind to the port first, and I think your script only waits until pd process sucessfully starts (i.e., doesn't wait for it to load the patch) before doing 'pdsend'. Quick and dirty: (pd -open netreceive-help.pd ); sleep 5 pdsend 3000 That way pdsend waits five seconds before executing, and the patch should be loaded by then. Maybe there's a shell guru here who can tell you how to wrap it up in a script that automatically sends messages on each keydown event. :) -Jonathan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Send Key Commands to PD w/ -nogui without X (from console)
hey! that was pretty brilliant! now w/ -stderr also prints to terminal: (pd -nogui -stderr -open netreceive-help.pd ); sleep 5 pdsend 3000 Maybe there's a shell guru here who can tell you how to wrap it up in a script that automatically sends messages on each keydown event. :) yes! m On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: - Original Message - From: me.grimm megr...@gmail.com To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: James Dunn ja...@4thharmonic.com; pd_list Listserve pd-list@iem.at Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [PD] Send Key Commands to PD w/ -nogui without X (from console) 3) the 'pdsend' program waits for FUDI input this might be the best solution for now until i take a look into the shell scripting you suggested. although, how to make it all on one line (one command). Variations in this: megrimm-mbp:~ megrimm$ (pd -open netreceive-help.pd ) ; (pdsend 3000) fail or me. I don't understand networking very well, but it looks like the netreceive has to bind to the port first, and I think your script only waits until pd process sucessfully starts (i.e., doesn't wait for it to load the patch) before doing 'pdsend'. Quick and dirty: (pd -open netreceive-help.pd ); sleep 5 pdsend 3000 That way pdsend waits five seconds before executing, and the patch should be loaded by then. Maybe there's a shell guru here who can tell you how to wrap it up in a script that automatically sends messages on each keydown event. :) -Jonathan -- m.e.grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pdp_sdl on Raspberry Pi Fullscreen from Console (No X Win) Initial Findings / Working (Kind of)
From this post (SDL 1.2 with dispmanx backend): http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=25146 I was able to get pdp_sdl working in fullscreen with hardware acceleration. It is surprisingly fast. I was able to generate noise (pdp_noise-help.pd) and play video (pdp_qt-help.pd) without an Xwindows right from the console. I did it this way. Make sure you are in the console only (no x window system). To try it out: get: http://megrimm.net/press/wp-content/software/pdp_03.14.13.zip http://megrimm.net/press/wp-content/software/sdl-dispmanx_03.14.13.zip http://megrimm.net/press/wp-content/software/pdp-noise_sdl-test.pd unzip: /home/pi/pd-externals/pdp /home/pi/Applications/SDL12-kms-dispmanx copy/move: /home/pi/Desktop/pdp-noise_sdl-test.pd then: export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/pi/Applications/SDL12-kms-dispmanx/build/.libs pd pd -nogui -stderr -lib pdp -open /home/pi/Desktop/pdp-noise_sdl-test.pd To Do (Help?): - I would like to figure out a way to just run the above command in a .sh script. If we want to keep libsdl1.2debian stock then you have to use export LD_LIBRARY_PATH to load pd/sdl with dispmanx backend. One could just do a make install in the SDL12-kms-dispmanx directory but that would effect the entire system replacing libsdl1.2debian - I have modified pdp_sdl.c slightly to work with the dispmanx backend. i have not figured out how to modify to EXIT sdl so at the moment the only way to get out of the application is to reboot the system. - What is the best file format for pdp/rpi? The anim.mov at 320x240 (not sure of codec) was fast and smooth. I also tried a .mov 720x480 photo-jpeg 80megs that was slow and grainy. If others are interested we can work together on this. Let me know. Also im wondering. Might someone know the way to compile just pdp_sdl as a stand alone? Right now every time i make a change I compile the whole thing because im unschooled and code C by trial and error. m -- m.e.grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Send Key Commands to PD w/ -nogui without X (from console)
Le 14/03/2013 21:38, me.grimm a écrit : hey! that was pretty brilliant! now w/ -stderr also prints to terminal: (pd -nogui -stderr -open netreceive-help.pd ); sleep 5 pdsend 3000 Maybe there's a shell guru here who can tell you how to wrap it up in a script that automatically sends messages on each keydown event. :) yes! m On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: - Original Message - From: me.grimm megr...@gmail.com To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: James Dunn ja...@4thharmonic.com; pd_list Listserve pd-list@iem.at Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [PD] Send Key Commands to PD w/ -nogui without X (from console) 3) the 'pdsend' program waits for FUDI input this might be the best solution for now until i take a look into the shell scripting you suggested. although, how to make it all on one line (one command). Variations in this: megrimm-mbp:~ megrimm$ (pd -open netreceive-help.pd ) ; (pdsend 3000) fail or me. I don't understand networking very well, but it looks like the netreceive has to bind to the port first, and I think your script only waits until pd process sucessfully starts (i.e., doesn't wait for it to load the patch) before doing 'pdsend'. Quick and dirty: (pd -open netreceive-help.pd ); sleep 5 pdsend 3000 That way pdsend waits five seconds before executing, and the patch should be loaded by then. Maybe there's a shell guru here who can tell you how to wrap it up in a script that automatically sends messages on each keydown event. :) -Jonathan Hello, Something like : $ pd send startup A B C /path/to/your/patch.pd should work if you have somewhere in your patch.pd a [r startup]. ++ Jack ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] More Sensor Questions inc libfreenect on the Rpi
if you want it to work outside in sunlight, that's impossible with the kinect. the infrared from the sun is much stronger than the projector of the kinect and will turn the pattern invisible to the infrared camera on the kinect. Am 14.03.2013 um 17:18 schrieb Julian Brooks jbee...@gmail.com: Hi again, So after some more research I've come to the conclusion that the ultrasonics aren't going to do what I would like - not a wide enough beam and unnecessary accuracy. Perhaps if I say what I would like 'something' to do, someone may say oh, you want one, two, n of these. I have a digital wind chime thingy that now works ok on the RPi. What I would like is to be able to put it outdoors with something that will see when large objects, like people, are coming towards and moving away from it and then I can make use of that data to send force in pmpd to the chimes and then the chimes can klang into each other. Been looking at the kinects but it seems I'll need GEM to be able to explore Matthias's very excellent looking freenect lib which is a no-no on the RPi currently. My friend and I have rounded up a nice solar panel, we've got some old broken soundstick speakers that we've hacked into and a weather-proof box plus a pole to hang it all on. Should be a nice little project when it's done but a we're bit stuck on this problem at the moment... Any suggestions people? Cheers, Julian ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] SP-Brazil Meeting
another one next saturday :) Em 28 de fevereiro de 2013 17:46, Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.comescreveu: Hi there, we're starting to organize some meetings on art software/hardware much like in the sense of the Patching Circles here announced, but not only devoted to patching like in Pd/Max, thus including text coding like Supercolider and also other environments like Processing and Arduino, etc. Newbies and experts, lets patch, code, hack and drink some beers, sorry for the following call only in portuguese; *Encontros Abertos Intermeios* Experimentação/Arte/Tecnologia Março 2013 Convidamos interessados em ferramentas voltadas à criação artística multimídia (como: Pure Data, Max, SuperCollider, Processing, Arduíno, dentre outros) para uma reunião informal voltada à criação e desenvolvimento de projetos em arte e tecnologia. Aberto a todos, de iniciantes à usuários avançados, o evento visa promover encontros entre pessoas de diferentes áreas (programadores, artistas, designers, hackers, etc) para colaborarem em trabalhos individuais ou coletivos. Sábados, 02 e 16 de março. à partir das 14h00. Local: Intermeios Rua Luis Murat, 40 Pinheiros São Paulo - 05436-050 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Fwd: SP-Brazil Meeting
another one next saturday :) -- Mensagem encaminhada -- De: Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com Data: 28 de fevereiro de 2013 17:46 Assunto: SP-Brazil Meeting Para: pd-lista puredata pd-list@iem.at, pd-annou...@iem.at Hi there, we're starting to organize some meetings on art software/hardware much like in the sense of the Patching Circles here announced, but not only devoted to patching like in Pd/Max, thus including text coding like Supercolider and also other environments like Processing and Arduino, etc. Newbies and experts, lets patch, code, hack and drink some beers, sorry for the following call only in portuguese; *Encontros Abertos Intermeios* Experimentação/Arte/Tecnologia Março 2013 Convidamos interessados em ferramentas voltadas à criação artística multimídia (como: Pure Data, Max, SuperCollider, Processing, Arduíno, dentre outros) para uma reunião informal voltada à criação e desenvolvimento de projetos em arte e tecnologia. Aberto a todos, de iniciantes à usuários avançados, o evento visa promover encontros entre pessoas de diferentes áreas (programadores, artistas, designers, hackers, etc) para colaborarem em trabalhos individuais ou coletivos. Sábados, 02 e 16 de março. à partir das 14h00. Local: Intermeios Rua Luis Murat, 40 Pinheiros São Paulo - 05436-050 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] found how to reproduce Pd-ext 0.43.4 Tcl Invalid Command Name error
That bug is not related, though I might look similar. Any time you see things like .x2415b0 those are the unique IDs that Pd uses for each Window in the GUI. .x2415b0: no such object basically means that Pd is trying to send a command to a window in the GUI, but that window does not currently exist (like it was closed) and Pd didn't get the message about that window closing. This patch is a nice clear example, so it should be possible to track the bug down. Marco, if you haven't already, can you add that patch tarball to a bug report in the tracker? A reference to this thread would also be helpful. .hc On Mar 7, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Benjamin ~ 01xy wrote: Hello, I encountered a maybe similar bug clicking on the 0 button of the Hradio in pix_video help patch : (Tcl) NOM DE COMMANDE INVALIDE : invalid command name .x8b1b038.c while executing .x8b1b038.c delete 8b26df8BASE0 (uplevel body line 14) invoked from within uplevel #0 $cmds_from_pd In Pd-extended 0.43-4 on debian 32 bit with GEM: ver: 0.93.3 compiled: Jan 28 2013 this bug disapear if I cut the wire of the left outlet of [pix_video] which goes to [s $0-info] Bugs related ? : http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=3522945group_id=55736atid=478070 ++Benjamin Le 07/03/2013 12:33, Marco Donnarumma a écrit : hey thanks all for testing. At least we know it's consistent. Let's see if somebody has ideas about it. Let me know how can I help! Really wish to solve this. thanks! -- Marco Donnarumma New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. Embodied Audio-Visual Interaction Research Team. Department of Computing, Goldsmiths University of London ~ Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 9:15 AM, batinste dwanaf...@yahoo.fr wrote: Hi Behaviour confirmed on ubuntu 12.10 64 bits and pd-ext 0.43.4. On 07/03/2013 02:02, Marco Donnarumma wrote: hey, dunno if you remember, but I still have this error (below) and now I managed to make a small patch that reproduces it (attached). It seems related to the Hide flag for a 2nd level nested GOP patch. it'd be great if somebody could test it on linux and mac. I'm on Ubuntu Lucid 10.04, pd-ext 0.43.4 how to reproduce: - launch MAIN-graph-bug.pd - click the bang to open a subpatch (if it doesn't at startup) - close the subpatch - close MAIN-graph-bug.pd at this point Pd throws the error as below. Only the GUI freezes, the patch is unusable and have to kill it, by closing pd. (Tcl) INVALID COMMAND NAME: invalid command name .x996ebd0.c while executing .x996ebd0.c delete graph996f4b0i0 (uplevel body line 1) invoked from within uplevel #0 $cmds_from_pd How to avoid it: - launch MAIN-graph-bug.pd - click the bang to open a subpatch (if it doesn't at startup) - open the subpatch - open the further subpatch anlz.scope~ - flag hide object name and argument - save -close pd - restart the patch and the error disappear It is worth noting that the error I get with the Xth Sense software looks similar but has different tags (see below). And I can't reproduce this one error using a subpatch including a graph or iem_image (which I use in the Xth Sense) (Tcl) INVALID COMMAND NAME: invalid command name .x9c4d3b0.c while executing .x9c4d3b0.c create image 900 776 -image a4304c0PHOTOIMAGE -tags a4304c0PHOTO (uplevel body line 283) invoked from within uplevel #0 $cmds_from_pd \ should i submit a different bug report or add to the one I did already? thanks in advance for any hint, this is forcing me to still use pd-ext 0.42.5 during my workshop, which is a shame :) -- Marco Donnarumma New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. Embodied Audio-Visual Interaction Research Team. Department of Computing, Goldsmiths University of London ~ Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] readsf fails to read 32 bits float wav
Sounds like it, especially if you can reproduce it everytime. File a bug report and include as simple a patch as possible to reproduce the issue, and the soundfile. I've definitely used lots of mono and stereo 32-bit float WAV files, so those work. .hc On Mar 11, 2013, at 3:52 PM, Charles Goyard wrote: Hi, today I noticed a readsf~ (on vanilla) opening a 5 wave file containing 32 bits float audio fails silently. The doc says 4 bytes is unavailable for AIFF, but I use WAVE. The file is a 5 channels WAVE file with 5 tracks 32bits float at 48kHz. Converting the audio to 16 bits PCM works. Is that a bug ? On vanilla 0.44. Thanks, -- Charles ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] found how to reproduce Pd-ext 0.43.4 Tcl Invalid Command Name error
Just to further confirm, pd-l2ork is not affected with Benjamins example either. Hopefully this will help Hans and others hunt this thing down. Best wishes, Ico From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Hans-Christoph Steiner Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 11:35 PM To: ben...@free.fr Cc: Pd List Subject: Re: [PD] found how to reproduce Pd-ext 0.43.4 Tcl Invalid Command Name error That bug is not related, though I might look similar. Any time you see things like .x2415b0 those are the unique IDs that Pd uses for each Window in the GUI. .x2415b0: no such object basically means that Pd is trying to send a command to a window in the GUI, but that window does not currently exist (like it was closed) and Pd didn't get the message about that window closing. This patch is a nice clear example, so it should be possible to track the bug down. Marco, if you haven't already, can you add that patch tarball to a bug report in the tracker? A reference to this thread would also be helpful. .hc On Mar 7, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Benjamin ~ 01xy wrote: Hello, I encountered a maybe similar bug clicking on the 0 button of the Hradio in pix_video help patch : (Tcl) NOM DE COMMANDE INVALIDE : invalid command name .x8b1b038.c while executing .x8b1b038.c delete 8b26df8BASE0 (uplevel body line 14) invoked from within uplevel #0 $cmds_from_pd In Pd-extended 0.43-4 on debian 32 bit with GEM: ver: 0.93.3 compiled: Jan 28 2013 this bug disapear if I cut the wire of the left outlet of [pix_video] which goes to [s $0-info] Bugs related ? : http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=3522945group_id=5 5736atid=478070 aid=3522945group_id=55736atid=478070 ++Benjamin Le 07/03/2013 12:33, Marco Donnarumma a écrit : hey thanks all for testing. At least we know it's consistent. Let's see if somebody has ideas about it. Let me know how can I help! Really wish to solve this. thanks! -- Marco Donnarumma New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. Embodied Audio-Visual Interaction Research Team. Department of Computing, Goldsmiths University of London ~ Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com http://marcodonnarumma.com/ Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com http://res.marcodonnarumma.com/ Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net/ On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 9:15 AM, batinste dwanaf...@yahoo.fr wrote: Hi Behaviour confirmed on ubuntu 12.10 64 bits and pd-ext 0.43.4. On 07/03/2013 02:02, Marco Donnarumma wrote: hey, dunno if you remember, but I still have this error (below) and now I managed to make a small patch that reproduces it (attached). It seems related to the Hide flag for a 2nd level nested GOP patch. it'd be great if somebody could test it on linux and mac. I'm on Ubuntu Lucid 10.04, pd-ext 0.43.4 how to reproduce: - launch MAIN-graph-bug.pd - click the bang to open a subpatch (if it doesn't at startup) - close the subpatch - close MAIN-graph-bug.pd at this point Pd throws the error as below. Only the GUI freezes, the patch is unusable and have to kill it, by closing pd. smb:// (Tcl) INVALID COMMAND NAME: invalid command name .x996ebd0.c while executing .x996ebd0.c delete graph996f4b0i0 (uplevel body line 1) invoked from within uplevel #0 $cmds_from_pd smb:// How to avoid it: - launch MAIN-graph-bug.pd - click the bang to open a subpatch (if it doesn't at startup) - open the subpatch - open the further subpatch anlz.scope~ - flag hide object name and argument - save -close pd - restart the patch and the error disappear It is worth noting that the error I get with the Xth Sense software looks similar but has different tags (see below). And I can't reproduce this one error using a subpatch including a graph or iem_image (which I use in the Xth Sense) smb:// (Tcl) INVALID COMMAND NAME: invalid command name .x9c4d3b0.c while executing .x9c4d3b0.c create image 900 776 -image a4304c0PHOTOIMAGE -tags a4304c0PHOTO (uplevel body line 283) invoked from within uplevel #0 $cmds_from_pd \ smb:// should i submit a different bug report or add to the one I did already? thanks in advance for any hint, this is forcing me to still use pd-ext 0.42.5 during my workshop, which is a shame :) -- Marco Donnarumma New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. Embodied Audio-Visual Interaction Research Team. Department of Computing, Goldsmiths University of London ~ Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com http://marcodonnarumma.com/ Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com http://res.marcodonnarumma.com/ Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE