Re: [PD] Libpd running in OS X app
Thanks for the link Rich! I had a look at your code and I could get the tone patch to work with input disabled, but enabling input caused an error: * *** ERROR *** -[PdAudioUnit initAudioUnitWithSampleRate:numberChannels:inputEnabled:][159] status code = kAudioUnitErr_InvalidPropertyValue* I think this is due to the fact that with kAudioUnitSubType_HALOutput you need to set up two callbacks for input/output processing: *kAudioOutputUnitProperty_SetInputCallback* for retrieving the input samples by calling the AudioUnitRender() method, processing the samples and storing them into a ring buffer. *kAudioUnitProperty_SetRenderCallback* for retrieving the samples stored in the ring buffer to output. I have a HAL Output Unit working with AUGraph in a controller class. I'll try and wrap it up this week and share it. However for this purpose I didn't need audio input so I opted for the Default Output unit. As you can see in the link from the previous email this simplifies the code A LOT :) Maybe it'd be useful to have two projects for output only and input/output. With the former being a very quick way for people new to libpd to get a project up and running. Regarding my issue with libpd not processing audio, as Dan pointed out, it *should *be working. However, thinking about it more it could be due to how I built the libpd library. I noticed Rich added the whole source code into his project so I'll try that and see if it makes any difference. Weird! Thanks for the help guys, Joe On 7 July 2013 03:02, Rich E reakina...@gmail.com wrote: I started adding support for using PdAudioUnit in a Cocoa / OS X app (PdAudioController is too iOS-specific) and checked my progress into the cocoa branch here: https://github.com/libpd/libpd/tree/cocoa There is a (very basic) working app at: https://github.com/libpd/libpd/tree/cocoa/samples/cocoa_samples/CocoaPdBasic You can also find some experimentation I did with moving towards an AUGraph design but, in the end, I found it much more restrictive than just using Audio Units directly. Apologies for not finding the time to finish this, I've been working full-time on a different project for many months now... but hopefully once that is done I will finish off those samples, unless someone else already has. In essence, there were only a few things that needed to be modified. Off the top of my head, they were: - switch the audio unit to kAudioUnitSubType_HALOutput - enable an input audio device (required on OS X, not on iOS) - fix some Obj-C syntax issues that are different on OS X (property synthesis generation I believe) By the way, you can use the C++ wrapper quite readily with any other existing audio framework that provides OS X support - I use it in cinder apps and of course Dan provides ofxPd. I know others who have used portaudio or FMOD directly. cheers, Rich On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry. I assumed you were using the existing Obj-C PdAudioUnit and PdAudioController classes included with libpd which were written mainly for iOS. We should get around to tweaking it so it works on OSX. Did you try it? In skimming your code, it looks like you're doing everything the PAudioUnit does, so I don't see any obvious problems. On Jul 6, 2013, at 8:52 AM, Joe White white.j...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry that previous code had some test stuff in it, here's a slightly cleaner version (ARC'd) http://pastebin.com/index/1bR2Ftqn On 6 July 2013 13:47, Joe White white.j...@gmail.com wrote: How do you mean the CoreAudio backend? I would have thought I should just be able to call the process function in my render callback. Did you check out the code I posted? I happy to provide that as an AudioController for libpd on OSX. Messages and print objects work correctly but libpd is not processing any audio. http://pastebin.com/1bR2Ftqn Cheers, Joe On 5 July 2013 23:33, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com wrote: As far as I know, the OSX port isn't finished and the CoreAudio backend isn't hooked up. Anyone wanna help out there or sponsor us? :D On Jul 5, 2013, at 7:56 AM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: *From: *Joe White white.j...@gmail.com *Subject: **[PD] Libpd running in OS X app* *Date: *July 5, 2013 7:34:47 AM EDT *To: *pd-list pd-list@iem.at Hi guys, Does anyone have any experience running libpd in an OS X app, using CoreAudio. I'm able to run a patch and receive print statements but I'm not getting any audio output and DSP doesn't seem to be processing. I created a quick test tone in code to see if it was my audio unit but that works. My main problem it seems is that after calling [PdBase processFloatWithInputBuffer:leftBuffer outputBuffer :leftBuffer ticks:ticks]; ...the buffer is still empty. Anyone have any ideas? I'm calling [PdBase computeAudio:] just before I start the AudioUnit. Here's the whole controller class if that helps:
[PD] Fwd: Preferences weirdness in Pd 43.1 ( 2?) in RPi
Hi, I again encountered some strange stuff with libraries and paths, this time in Pd-extended 0.43.4 on windows. Some libraries included in the extra folder just won't load (like pduino for instance). Using [import pduino] does work though. Also I can't add some paths, like ...pd/docs/3.audio.examples (because i need the reverb abstraction). Pd just won't save the path no matter what. Cheers, Pierre. -- Forwarded message -- From: Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com Date: 2013/7/7 Subject: Preferences weirdness in Pd 43.1 ( 2?) in RPi To: pd-list pd-list@iem.at Dear List, My Pi is finally working again with Pd, but i've noticed two strange things (strange to me) : - the libraries in the startup list simply won't load most of the time (zexy, cyclone, iemlib at least), although they were installed regularly in the extra folder. I have to add their folders to the Path list. Note that the [import] object doesn't work either for these libraries. - when launching Pd as root, the preferences I set as a normal use don't load. This is a bit strange to me, and I have no idea how to tell Pd to use the same .pdsettings file in both situations. Nothing that I couldn't get around, but the this is a bit frustating (especially the libraries thing). Cheers, Pierre. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] iemmatrix - rotate matrix
Hello, I'm programming a gui for [mtx_mul~], and it's almost finished. One thing is missing, and I wanted to know if someone already has a solution for it, before I break my head trying to find one. I need to find a way to rotate matrixes, in order to coordenate the controler display, and matrix's format. Following the logic of max's matrixctrl object, and an usual DAW's display of audio matrixes, the lines are the inputs, and the columns are the outputs. But, Pd's [matrix] practise is the opposite. So I'm trying to implement the standard industry display, and output Pd's [matrix] format. For example, a 4x2 matrix to control [mtx_mul~] has 8 fields, and will be like 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 or [matrix 4 2 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8( that is, columns are inputs, lines are outputs. But, the current GUI would have the matrix rotated, in the order 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 [matrix 4 2 1 5 2 6 3 7 4 8( where columns are outputs, and lines are inputs. So repeating to try to make it clear: the gui sends the data in the lower format, and it has to be rotated to match the format above. Is there an object or technique that does this? Thanks again, João ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Libpd running in OS X app
Ah, that's right I forgot: using one AUHAL audio unit only works if you are using the same device for input and output, otherwise you need to create two as you found out. Unfortunately this is the default setup on a macbook, but I found that it still works if you create an Aggregate Device in the 'Audio Midi Setup' preference pane (it'll also work with hardware sound I/O interfaces). Yea not sure how to leave those samples / what modifications to make to PdAudioUnit - if you get something working that is fairly general maybe we can work it in. About the AUGraph, the limitation I ran into was trying to feed either speech synthesis or AUFilePlayer output into pd from a render callback - I could only get it to work with straight Audio Units and AudioUnitSetProperty. See here for the gory details: http://lists.apple.com/archives/coreaudio-api/2013/Jan/msg9.html cheers, Rich On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 6:20 AM, Joe White white.j...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the link Rich! I had a look at your code and I could get the tone patch to work with input disabled, but enabling input caused an error: * *** ERROR *** -[PdAudioUnit initAudioUnitWithSampleRate:numberChannels:inputEnabled:][159] status code = kAudioUnitErr_InvalidPropertyValue* I think this is due to the fact that with kAudioUnitSubType_HALOutput you need to set up two callbacks for input/output processing: *kAudioOutputUnitProperty_SetInputCallback* for retrieving the input samples by calling the AudioUnitRender() method, processing the samples and storing them into a ring buffer. *kAudioUnitProperty_SetRenderCallback* for retrieving the samples stored in the ring buffer to output. I have a HAL Output Unit working with AUGraph in a controller class. I'll try and wrap it up this week and share it. However for this purpose I didn't need audio input so I opted for the Default Output unit. As you can see in the link from the previous email this simplifies the code A LOT :) Maybe it'd be useful to have two projects for output only and input/output. With the former being a very quick way for people new to libpd to get a project up and running. Regarding my issue with libpd not processing audio, as Dan pointed out, it *should *be working. However, thinking about it more it could be due to how I built the libpd library. I noticed Rich added the whole source code into his project so I'll try that and see if it makes any difference. Weird! Thanks for the help guys, Joe On 7 July 2013 03:02, Rich E reakina...@gmail.com wrote: I started adding support for using PdAudioUnit in a Cocoa / OS X app (PdAudioController is too iOS-specific) and checked my progress into the cocoa branch here: https://github.com/libpd/libpd/tree/cocoa There is a (very basic) working app at: https://github.com/libpd/libpd/tree/cocoa/samples/cocoa_samples/CocoaPdBasic You can also find some experimentation I did with moving towards an AUGraph design but, in the end, I found it much more restrictive than just using Audio Units directly. Apologies for not finding the time to finish this, I've been working full-time on a different project for many months now... but hopefully once that is done I will finish off those samples, unless someone else already has. In essence, there were only a few things that needed to be modified. Off the top of my head, they were: - switch the audio unit to kAudioUnitSubType_HALOutput - enable an input audio device (required on OS X, not on iOS) - fix some Obj-C syntax issues that are different on OS X (property synthesis generation I believe) By the way, you can use the C++ wrapper quite readily with any other existing audio framework that provides OS X support - I use it in cinder apps and of course Dan provides ofxPd. I know others who have used portaudio or FMOD directly. cheers, Rich On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry. I assumed you were using the existing Obj-C PdAudioUnit and PdAudioController classes included with libpd which were written mainly for iOS. We should get around to tweaking it so it works on OSX. Did you try it? In skimming your code, it looks like you're doing everything the PAudioUnit does, so I don't see any obvious problems. On Jul 6, 2013, at 8:52 AM, Joe White white.j...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry that previous code had some test stuff in it, here's a slightly cleaner version (ARC'd) http://pastebin.com/index/1bR2Ftqn On 6 July 2013 13:47, Joe White white.j...@gmail.com wrote: How do you mean the CoreAudio backend? I would have thought I should just be able to call the process function in my render callback. Did you check out the code I posted? I happy to provide that as an AudioController for libpd on OSX. Messages and print objects work correctly but libpd is not processing any audio. http://pastebin.com/1bR2Ftqn Cheers, Joe On 5 July 2013 23:33, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com wrote:
