Re: [PD] [biquad~] as cyclone's [allpass~]?
Allpass for reverb is easy to do with delwrite~ and vd~. I used 32 of them today to recreate a famous 'deep space' reverb. On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 1:53 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.comwrote: hi there, i see the biquad's coefficients can be set as an allpass filter, generated by frequency and Q parameters. But can it do the same as cyclone's [allpass~] filer? If yes, them how since the parameters for [allpass~] are different (delaytime and such). One way or another, I guess that my real question is: how to implement [allpass~] from vanilla objects? thanks ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.45-3 test 1 released
I know this is only test. But any chance of a 64bit build so that I can start using csoundapi~ with this? Thanks Peiman *www.peimankhosravi.co.uk || RSS Feedhttp://peimankhosravi.co.uk/miscposts.rss || Concert News http://spectralkimia.wordpress.com/* On 1 October 2013 08:18, peiman khosravi peimankhosr...@gmail.com wrote: And 96k working nicely here on 10.7.5. Thanks very much for this. Best, Peiman *www.peimankhosravi.co.uk || RSS Feedhttp://peimankhosravi.co.uk/miscposts.rss || Concert News http://spectralkimia.wordpress.com/* On 1 October 2013 03:50, Jaime E Oliver jaime.oliv...@gmail.com wrote: 48k working in 10.8 Thanks! J On Sep 30, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu wrote: Hi all, Pd version 0.45-3 test 1 is available on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm or via git from sourceforge: git clone git://git.code.sf.net/p/pure-data/pure-data cd pure-data git checkout -b 0.45 This fixes the bug pasting text from other software into Pd boxes, and also fixes (I hope) the problems with running at 48KHz on built-in hardware on Mac OSX 10.7 and 10.8. Since this is a change in audio I/O that could have unexpected effects on other hardware I'm leaving it as a test version to see if anyone has new problems. But I think it's ready to use now. cheers Miller ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Weird bug in pd-extended and Ubuntu
had the same thing. try updating your repositories... see here: http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-9448-solved-crashes-server j ,. On 01.10.2013 22:01, Pierre Massat wrote: Dear list, I m working on a patch in pd-extended 0.43.4, on a freshly installed Ubuntu 12 LTS. An Arduino Uno board is plugged into my machine. In the attached patch i've been getting very strange bugs : - one instance of [f ] wasn't working the way it should (a bang to its left inlet wouldn't output what had been fed to its right inlet), while the other was behaving fine. - And now I cannot create any new object. Ubuntu crashes (it logs out of my session) when i type the 4th letter in the object box. I also get the following message very often in the console : ALSA output error (restart failed): Broken pipe I'm very confused here. Pierre ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] tanh() or a compressor?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-10-01 16:30, Mario Mey wrote: How does Pd or the soundcard outputs the signal 1? Does it compress it? depends on the actual backend and how you are using it. e.g. some backends only support values that cannot possibly exceed +-1; in these cases, the signal will be hard clipped! with some other backends (that support floating point values natively) you might get away with a compressed/limited signal. if you don't know, it's best to assume that anything exceeding +-1 will be clipped. even if you do know, it's better to assume that they will be clipped. I started this thread because I saw the high peaks in an array... but I never listened the sound distorted. with very transient sounds (like clicks and pops) you might not hear the distortion, as these values are very broadband anyhow. btw, make sure that your signal is not already distorted on the soundcard input. you cannot undo that... fgamsdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSS80zAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4w7oP/imJTt1s3zNaZv3npavA0YJT oL0cne6eS6bQ726jE133aRik0z2AZ3jWeiDC565kRoQcrf5Gml8qRvu5HnyR0J13 8H1FImL6rnsBTlusfy63tcj5GO450/nW5MY4xryCIep0K/EMufdudwNUVa9iu3Ar G74ifuN/eikpRZd8wBBB9ohAvqGU6qolLYqWq+acDBpAy0Z9rn+9NJMDsfrWNGDh dV552L9S6pnieocZbTcsKmLpxnc/VeCbNIUUCQsksEuY5XKkbenj0u7o8zzfEsF2 IbGiMP16q3OzDJdVzABu13w9Vd890jLMVeGQZe9f4OuMz07VebHRNht97vOC1obw f3DDGAbABd0XqJPl0yaMhTMF+L/ndXcHIthF5LHN65OqzDJlge+Mj2e1ZrXj6VGg 6KK+6SjoWRGNAMMeauTsQyjG/cu9UfYJ1gjgSk38trqKzAZupwi9J+ysnvUjOzfh ib7TNGeJCm34GLNwZs6lta+53cMkLApADfQkR7+CFJrS9f+x1RMcoIizl4gnMcgu TPAeuhWwbjebo/O3dwtokb2CxeMsa3vDmM3zT78khtYmmh5/ZJAMI3+Re+5FcvkQ tVgIfexS7ghmISZOlPRfpCp+TGnES8xMmXzsql0Q+tKGWWt1sxZ3/P6di4zP4oiF 9BQxOCAGJ+wUk/S+TIRT =jR3Z -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.45-3 test 1 released
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-10-02 09:22, peiman khosravi wrote: I know this is only test. But any chance of a 64bit build so that I can which OS and architecture? linux on arm64? fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSS82zAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4ThsQAIEK8nveJtEbWam55/0E3pVk ryBSDrv82gcMZdwEuZOyi5tgyawRIbQ55bdmXX+RyiIy6swkEUlAsAys9CeLb2cR xk/e2PDMl1futqh5hbTqFDDtBvpNM3b/MAJzEynQCRSJr2uFPEdExp47SdeYtDUU i/2P7b68Wma33kjuiauNz0/aPMnHh9Qpr8GW4bK9eGIA7Eryt7JmCLwjDia3+tvn jSm5ETt76nhuksX9FRV+8C5Co3uBOnN59XjGW9W/ftVLxavXTR0EnnVGpJJisMOV 3PwtLtc2JGhmr/Ct3lVkCqPjnAbz8dRmRmA4hNeRho7/no56SGqE8DwKuL+Nwu/V x+QImY3j966d/oOC/JE5tFbhygpoicQG6es7DzLQrp4QjCvwvzia1RNq5BC+NHUX 7KQuEyUAw001NpcCfPaQ/kbOtyZVt9XvQb2UcYWbzIHD7Ls36OIUssBcloqXOUXw dkjJAjLo5SIkzbwYbJnTQwUdV+P1+vr6OH5PqVYJ4W6rTi1umMa+OFIIQQF3/wXz 3lg7DYLoBOleb5QuTdlsxxcX9QgmapmiCRq1Sx7bYX/6kek2ZmDRcW5WMkl+Pyxf BtJzmWyxeCurbnoeaeqfqx2U1/qvWovN5/wbXLkoc50Fa3no9FNd4ZaEwnmyRQWY wbJe9mNwdpQRGG0f+KhL =S7o6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.45-3 test 1 released
I'm on os x 10.7.5. Thanks Peiman *www.peimankhosravi.co.uk || RSS Feedhttp://peimankhosravi.co.uk/miscposts.rss || Concert News http://spectralkimia.wordpress.com/* On 2 October 2013 08:39, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-10-02 09:22, peiman khosravi wrote: I know this is only test. But any chance of a 64bit build so that I can which OS and architecture? linux on arm64? fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSS82zAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4ThsQAIEK8nveJtEbWam55/0E3pVk ryBSDrv82gcMZdwEuZOyi5tgyawRIbQ55bdmXX+RyiIy6swkEUlAsAys9CeLb2cR xk/e2PDMl1futqh5hbTqFDDtBvpNM3b/MAJzEynQCRSJr2uFPEdExp47SdeYtDUU i/2P7b68Wma33kjuiauNz0/aPMnHh9Qpr8GW4bK9eGIA7Eryt7JmCLwjDia3+tvn jSm5ETt76nhuksX9FRV+8C5Co3uBOnN59XjGW9W/ftVLxavXTR0EnnVGpJJisMOV 3PwtLtc2JGhmr/Ct3lVkCqPjnAbz8dRmRmA4hNeRho7/no56SGqE8DwKuL+Nwu/V x+QImY3j966d/oOC/JE5tFbhygpoicQG6es7DzLQrp4QjCvwvzia1RNq5BC+NHUX 7KQuEyUAw001NpcCfPaQ/kbOtyZVt9XvQb2UcYWbzIHD7Ls36OIUssBcloqXOUXw dkjJAjLo5SIkzbwYbJnTQwUdV+P1+vr6OH5PqVYJ4W6rTi1umMa+OFIIQQF3/wXz 3lg7DYLoBOleb5QuTdlsxxcX9QgmapmiCRq1Sx7bYX/6kek2ZmDRcW5WMkl+Pyxf BtJzmWyxeCurbnoeaeqfqx2U1/qvWovN5/wbXLkoc50Fa3no9FNd4ZaEwnmyRQWY wbJe9mNwdpQRGG0f+KhL =S7o6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] udpsend not recognised
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-10-01 18:02, peiman khosravi wrote: I might be imagining this but I remember a discussion about OSC and one of these test releases, which I can't find now. I'm asking because I cannot get 'udpsend' to be recognised as an object on OS X 10.7.5. I've tried with both pd-extended and installing it manually alongside the vanilla version. i'm not sure whether i fully understand. Pd-0.45.3-test1 is a Pd-vanilla (pre)release. Pd-vanilla doesn't have [udpsend], as this object is an external (either from mrpeach/net or iemnet). Pd-vanilla also won't search for externals installed within (as part of) Pd-extended. fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSS9AvAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4KacP/R9XdmemHc2xr3AQFJvkrjmk cPgCflaNS3h0/PnnIhJ+ARCn756EHqUQ1cvxWy76M8+bLh0TQV4RB+AELEaMvrlz incbTYYr3WDNnKmoNJcP/xN3U8g6ay8oF2y1hcoVSxo3xD47uTZ94XgkkTginS8j G8eIGHdAGgXlRSulLOjPoigrBNp47gXISHkKxWZ92QsebK8lldcP8GOb5Gz0BqNH 7wps3UpTm5B+OEGo/yU6QLeSkEub77fwH8z++Axuc/PNgtaZdqQd9uyRlEumI4M1 sYaUHSiXG/maOtbA8TpaQfO1RSF1VEecCMw2MITtOIBFDNDzYZnyykNCPqS52APm gbhNf6Fip+k0jM3GkCX9jUjJWEvWmB9WFWnHqz7FrdvwHduHDz4PX3fSOlPahcuX D4Q9aoxTDGxaeFJPm8X7Uzuby9JaPpiVNoJOBE4qIRiW9oqug208wMFYDUwFHy57 fWARBPcMUcy+pXM7ZBhy2TEb7Y2EqaAW3qE3Wr3tRB0nyi6b0IT2CjKXiT5sMj4k LEiUe9JVB/N3351mHpDZiREHbFi+JOD/UR83ER22ovUu0BjcWzF9aWGZx6F/ST1M Oy6aTP4LUHcj3SOBdWHhB3epedjgK3BGr2aBsF9s3NJTMqYOBPR9JavFhgqeTFBx qW752uVnSv6tgfOkE9hv =fpgZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] writesf~ time to flush to disk…?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-10-01 18:47, Dan Wilcox wrote: Speaking of bangs doing the job, I wish [tabread] had a right outlet that banged when you gave it an out of bound index. I was trying to make a vanilla version of [tabdump] and that would allow me to know when I've read the whole table without needing to know it's size explicitly. so far i know of are two options: - - being not entirely vanilla and use [expr size($s1)] to query the tablesize at runtime (without requiring the user to provide it manually) - - stay entirely vanilla with Pd-0.45 and use [array get] which is a more powerful replacement for [tabdump] most compiled objects within zexy are there because i haven't found a way to implement them in vanilla (some are there because a vanilla implementation ist simply to slow; and the rest is there for vaniyt reasons) fasrm IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSS9FjAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4UUUP+gPnvxs5SpNXl3A9KbC18y2v PLxl75yeloG5f60H8dLAzWdvCwvUAkpqgaCzesBNjDpJu/eDK8YWhXZz9sbP7EXm Q3DVzByXzavsgc1xAw1M8s4RAltlwdtvd5JZwRTgn862k+iCPn2UwFk3Em2JcdN0 f8pxj4m9KR6vXpRhfXZH1ZcdiGIltHC9uUAgBy/9e/e03uP5aaTju2iKgXhVb8jW 0OROQb9fhQTVYzG7OrYt+1zxMCWV2BrQVxTbFgbJxYuxIHgKLoNwEbG/2NhrNFLD +Gv98kjCp1R2bnn6EmTJiPk6zj7QsFe2oZmvw0a8ghSIQYo3H7S4eVJaHy8ng7rt F9Va66XGvG1p6K0IObnErvAJnDYDbj7PrF9kQL0vG256JkMJzqSxpSVstcnG0iLW D3JhXpq0Mnp0p7ZOwfCkXWuzNvOhFt22dYYqdkvYaUQkF4a12h6rzCWlXI/KsZRB Fm6gWgAPKBx6dYwGrLAaln0tNeVSCekU55ZALtNl7apjOsJik8KJbSZI0jXalOiU DxVTlj0mRCw3QrD7jzi1vShbU/z/QtzwLm317wwc8EjnGmUIMuxUntUqdkac74Pr 8taNqut6DVSELG2L4x148Q+DE9hklB1aTV0iBKLjmRKRhCfe4SG/+OcQoVTkvu4p 5nJgRFw1MiGS/OGBa9d5 =uxQ7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] video recording of a gem window
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-10-01 23:44, David Schaffer wrote: Hi there, I'm trying to find a way to capture my gem window into a video file. I've been trying pix_record but it seems that it is not what I need. why? I red about pdp_rec but it is not present in my version of pd-extended (0.43.4 on osX 10.7.5) is it obsolete? [pdp_rec] will record PDP streams, rather than the Gem window. Any other object, library that I could use? [pix_record] or any decent (external) screen capture application. fgamsdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSS9H9AAoJELZQGcR/ejb4YwcP/irIMCL/pfnvnN+OBoWgiNwS OXspkRR6lDLA0ngVsu7eFYdSRKvIFhxdVcKAqShYQap0d3Mm1vi1BfuaLTVt4vGx s3S8a4tb7oqpQvvKwfn2i67Hw1U0wCKSpd1ezy9ZJ83mgDv7S6htBrFQXou8PpkN EiP+dOXHLRt2DjlKYBtSL6nUegishSMFd3s41l/EQEVtOOpjWAW5b/J1afJOG7Ds FjCTWHWtAnmb9+XSr3i+XfE8n4vUYEq1rM0h2hz/mMXbU6GpdMXYMPk2zi5jsqIO eiigj2ZvSMkijmK8x4hg+FZlposyHAP/BkuHvTQYQgoCDAVKLJxZ0Z5pEodShuvk jh7tq7dlO8d4pHYBa5K43uUINty8SE+gtktP12g5gPWDiEVPSyZyH5lUdGOrJl2o 1bIyG0YkA+x6jOXiZIxrs1gLTMCiuw3qK4nWX0upvHm2qFZUUviqNmOYdmTxGP2N cnNl3PGkA7F8a9dSKrnQnyQ6AHWAbYp+4fPFN89ZpYTYoKOjjQzWtLTmHFCXlzQg 3E7BDmJ2TP6jaJt8/OH9yeyIKZOWvyLY4Y90y+zf0cN6s4i2CJysIO4C5Ho44fLM UuZEsAOijlPfAuf7l7gk0Lipa2N+L4jhkYfHVZzzLN50z/lO4NXC93J7WFcIPRcM sTIM9aTW2nG6XFQxGrFU =rTIB -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] udpsend not recognised
But I have downloaded the external and added its location to the search path. *www.peimankhosravi.co.uk || RSS Feedhttp://peimankhosravi.co.uk/miscposts.rss || Concert News http://spectralkimia.wordpress.com/* On 2 October 2013 08:50, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-10-01 18:02, peiman khosravi wrote: I might be imagining this but I remember a discussion about OSC and one of these test releases, which I can't find now. I'm asking because I cannot get 'udpsend' to be recognised as an object on OS X 10.7.5. I've tried with both pd-extended and installing it manually alongside the vanilla version. i'm not sure whether i fully understand. Pd-0.45.3-test1 is a Pd-vanilla (pre)release. Pd-vanilla doesn't have [udpsend], as this object is an external (either from mrpeach/net or iemnet). Pd-vanilla also won't search for externals installed within (as part of) Pd-extended. fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSS9AvAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4KacP/R9XdmemHc2xr3AQFJvkrjmk cPgCflaNS3h0/PnnIhJ+ARCn756EHqUQ1cvxWy76M8+bLh0TQV4RB+AELEaMvrlz incbTYYr3WDNnKmoNJcP/xN3U8g6ay8oF2y1hcoVSxo3xD47uTZ94XgkkTginS8j G8eIGHdAGgXlRSulLOjPoigrBNp47gXISHkKxWZ92QsebK8lldcP8GOb5Gz0BqNH 7wps3UpTm5B+OEGo/yU6QLeSkEub77fwH8z++Axuc/PNgtaZdqQd9uyRlEumI4M1 sYaUHSiXG/maOtbA8TpaQfO1RSF1VEecCMw2MITtOIBFDNDzYZnyykNCPqS52APm gbhNf6Fip+k0jM3GkCX9jUjJWEvWmB9WFWnHqz7FrdvwHduHDz4PX3fSOlPahcuX D4Q9aoxTDGxaeFJPm8X7Uzuby9JaPpiVNoJOBE4qIRiW9oqug208wMFYDUwFHy57 fWARBPcMUcy+pXM7ZBhy2TEb7Y2EqaAW3qE3Wr3tRB0nyi6b0IT2CjKXiT5sMj4k LEiUe9JVB/N3351mHpDZiREHbFi+JOD/UR83ER22ovUu0BjcWzF9aWGZx6F/ST1M Oy6aTP4LUHcj3SOBdWHhB3epedjgK3BGr2aBsF9s3NJTMqYOBPR9JavFhgqeTFBx qW752uVnSv6tgfOkE9hv =fpgZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] udpsend not recognised
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-10-02 10:15, peiman khosravi wrote: But I have downloaded the external and added its location to the search path. sorry, this wasn't clear to me. try running Pd in verbose mode. - - open Pd - - somewhere in the properties (here it is in the Path... dialog), tick the verbose checkbox and click OK. - - proceed as usual to create your [udpsend] - - watch the output in the Pd-console: it should tell you where it looked for the external; probably it will show that it looked at the wrong places; or that it looked at the right place but that there is not compiled external; or that the compiled external it found has been compiled for an incompatible version of Pd. if you are having trouble with the verbose output, just post it to the list. fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSS+WPAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4Ds8P/3uEuBFAMSv7c3hUsnUhK3QA OYjzng3K3MgEPCoQnR9z+ruzN4gtiOtMwJ+XUGgQnqFhUviyRbYbD4Z4JPeqfO7P biYUE5BP06UTI9+qd1D4RG/T/xII3kkoOLjsRH4d6cklYdA+zUOUgR+kaogn7Mhz rjGDe2x2t5lh9NXYaDUeRPO1jQ7IX3SgHqDuV9iTS6wgQEAmtQPxA+qK2fmW8Qvg ViiMassTgI0PUGNOwhY21cRuQ07uBwpwmpuxDvqZ92o2Jk2vCsG3IcUtqfSrlGrh PLPizaQCWZcrd1qwYvtUo2B/ufknUOEJHmAQEfpTG6OpKNbyLOJ8oTDPHw17gk/F uz+g6xQnxbB9CbwYvZQU2iBwPWtAeQE34qEgWYxeDsrewHQyow6vQa6/FVkMyLmp jNhDE+w3SNU0ylQy50OPvlr7KpxsaPbvYzRJ7ehwbyCjVzjp0kZuuhMZKdI9gibJ 5Xb7DOhZuhPzPTTkXKhlKEOVumq+f+T0iJy23JTLvG9ugo1DGjY2GA3eph7XqRFO 8D4jhZALkS+vPG1YWZdoV+VMxyUP+iJqY4AI9xoI8efP1Ka2bbe0QRu7PeJzAQGu rdinBFPsggkWfBZxfWhHdMP1enNP82cPSWOFnOKxvuatPYWBYR8KOPH8E+hdK46O fJLR1Jqr9Wb37J8m3iCX =AS5N -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.45-3 test 1 released
Yeah, I think this is working... I don't have time right now but will be grinding out a proper release eitehr tomorrow or Friday. cheers Miller On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 08:44:54AM +0100, peiman khosravi wrote: I'm on os x 10.7.5. Thanks Peiman *www.peimankhosravi.co.uk || RSS Feedhttp://peimankhosravi.co.uk/miscposts.rss || Concert News http://spectralkimia.wordpress.com/* On 2 October 2013 08:39, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-10-02 09:22, peiman khosravi wrote: I know this is only test. But any chance of a 64bit build so that I can which OS and architecture? linux on arm64? fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSS82zAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4ThsQAIEK8nveJtEbWam55/0E3pVk ryBSDrv82gcMZdwEuZOyi5tgyawRIbQ55bdmXX+RyiIy6swkEUlAsAys9CeLb2cR xk/e2PDMl1futqh5hbTqFDDtBvpNM3b/MAJzEynQCRSJr2uFPEdExp47SdeYtDUU i/2P7b68Wma33kjuiauNz0/aPMnHh9Qpr8GW4bK9eGIA7Eryt7JmCLwjDia3+tvn jSm5ETt76nhuksX9FRV+8C5Co3uBOnN59XjGW9W/ftVLxavXTR0EnnVGpJJisMOV 3PwtLtc2JGhmr/Ct3lVkCqPjnAbz8dRmRmA4hNeRho7/no56SGqE8DwKuL+Nwu/V x+QImY3j966d/oOC/JE5tFbhygpoicQG6es7DzLQrp4QjCvwvzia1RNq5BC+NHUX 7KQuEyUAw001NpcCfPaQ/kbOtyZVt9XvQb2UcYWbzIHD7Ls36OIUssBcloqXOUXw dkjJAjLo5SIkzbwYbJnTQwUdV+P1+vr6OH5PqVYJ4W6rTi1umMa+OFIIQQF3/wXz 3lg7DYLoBOleb5QuTdlsxxcX9QgmapmiCRq1Sx7bYX/6kek2ZmDRcW5WMkl+Pyxf BtJzmWyxeCurbnoeaeqfqx2U1/qvWovN5/wbXLkoc50Fa3no9FNd4ZaEwnmyRQWY wbJe9mNwdpQRGG0f+KhL =S7o6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Legal restrictions for apps
Hey guys, I'm wondering about the restrictions for using Pure Data patches in Android and iOS apps with libpd. I have a rudimentary understanding that if I distribute software that's released under the GPL or LGPL I need to make available my source or at least the object files of my app. As I understand it, from the vanilla distribution contains [expr~], which is LGPL. If I use libpd, I'm distributing it, and I need to make the source or the object files of my apps available. Is that correct? Are there any paid apps that use pd and distribute through Google Play or Appstore? -- Tony Hillerson ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Weird bug in pd-extended and Ubuntu
Hi, Thanks for the clue. Turns out that the fix you propose doesn't work for the current LTS version of Ubuntu (which is 12.04), but i've found a fix that seems to work (from this page in French). For the record, in a real terminal (no X), type : sudo service lightdm stop sudo X -configure sudo cp ~/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf sudo service lightdm start Then edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf (sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf for instance) by writing intel as the Driver in the Device section. Reboot, and it works (I haven't tested it thoroughly but at least I can now add new objects to my patch). Cheers, Pierre. 2013/10/2 jwind w...@mikrokiko.de ** had the same thing. try updating your repositories... see here: http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-9448-solved-crashes-server j ,. On 01.10.2013 22:01, Pierre Massat wrote: Dear list, I m working on a patch in pd-extended 0.43.4, on a freshly installed Ubuntu 12 LTS. An Arduino Uno board is plugged into my machine. In the attached patch i've been getting very strange bugs : - one instance of [f ] wasn't working the way it should (a bang to its left inlet wouldn't output what had been fed to its right inlet), while the other was behaving fine. - And now I cannot create any new object. Ubuntu crashes (it logs out of my session) when i type the 4th letter in the object box. I also get the following message very often in the console : ALSA output error (restart failed): Broken pipe I'm very confused here. Pierre ___pd-l...@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] need help with gem and glsl feedback
Hello list ,
i'm currently trying to understand a bit more glsl ,
and am tearing my hairs
i have a scene with some moving geometry (torus)
on this geometry i use successfully a simple shader to plot a moving circle.
Then
i try to make the classical feedback effect , but i need to use glsl
because i want to control precisely the adding of the image at time
and at time+1
here is the feedback shader i try to use .
uniform sampler2D tex1,tex2;
uniform float motionblurstrenght;
vec2 coord = gl_TexCoord[0].st;
void main()
{
vec4 t1 = texture(tex1, coord);//new frame
vec4 t2 = texture(tex2, coord);//acumulated frame
gl_FragColor = vec4(t1.r);
float r = ((1.-motionblurstrenght)*t2.r) + (t1.r);//motion blur
gl_FragColor = vec4(r);
}
--
do you have a clean example or hints on how to implement this ?
i am currently fighting with gemframebuffer and pix_texture
and rendering order and texunits .
and i feel i'm missing something ..
i would like , if possible to keep this as an effect i can turn on and
off , without modifing my current gem chains .
i think i need two gem chains ,one early and one at last in the frame
drawing chronology , but i can't make it though i tried a lot
any help appreciated .
Pierre-Yves
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Re: [PD] Weird bug in pd-extended and Ubuntu
What about this one though: ALSA output error (restart failed): Broken pipe Never got to the bottom of it with my intel inbuilt soundcard on PdE (Debian). Noticeably doesn't happen with an external soundcard (in my experience anyway) On 2 October 2013 19:08, Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Thanks for the clue. Turns out that the fix you propose doesn't work for the current LTS version of Ubuntu (which is 12.04), but i've found a fix that seems to work (from this page in French). For the record, in a real terminal (no X), type : sudo service lightdm stop sudo X -configure sudo cp ~/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf sudo service lightdm start Then edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf (sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf for instance) by writing intel as the Driver in the Device section. Reboot, and it works (I haven't tested it thoroughly but at least I can now add new objects to my patch). Cheers, Pierre. 2013/10/2 jwind w...@mikrokiko.de ** had the same thing. try updating your repositories... see here: http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-9448-solved-crashes-server j ,. On 01.10.2013 22:01, Pierre Massat wrote: Dear list, I m working on a patch in pd-extended 0.43.4, on a freshly installed Ubuntu 12 LTS. An Arduino Uno board is plugged into my machine. In the attached patch i've been getting very strange bugs : - one instance of [f ] wasn't working the way it should (a bang to its left inlet wouldn't output what had been fed to its right inlet), while the other was behaving fine. - And now I cannot create any new object. Ubuntu crashes (it logs out of my session) when i type the 4th letter in the object box. I also get the following message very often in the console : ALSA output error (restart failed): Broken pipe I'm very confused here. Pierre ___pd-l...@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Weird bug in pd-extended and Ubuntu
I installed JACK and the ALSA error disappeared (of course). Now I have another error message from JACK, but the sound is working fine. Cheers, Pierre. 2013/10/2 Julian Brooks jbee...@gmail.com What about this one though: ALSA output error (restart failed): Broken pipe Never got to the bottom of it with my intel inbuilt soundcard on PdE (Debian). Noticeably doesn't happen with an external soundcard (in my experience anyway) On 2 October 2013 19:08, Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Thanks for the clue. Turns out that the fix you propose doesn't work for the current LTS version of Ubuntu (which is 12.04), but i've found a fix that seems to work (from this page in French). For the record, in a real terminal (no X), type : sudo service lightdm stop sudo X -configure sudo cp ~/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf sudo service lightdm start Then edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf (sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf for instance) by writing intel as the Driver in the Device section. Reboot, and it works (I haven't tested it thoroughly but at least I can now add new objects to my patch). Cheers, Pierre. 2013/10/2 jwind w...@mikrokiko.de ** had the same thing. try updating your repositories... see here: http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-9448-solved-crashes-server j ,. On 01.10.2013 22:01, Pierre Massat wrote: Dear list, I m working on a patch in pd-extended 0.43.4, on a freshly installed Ubuntu 12 LTS. An Arduino Uno board is plugged into my machine. In the attached patch i've been getting very strange bugs : - one instance of [f ] wasn't working the way it should (a bang to its left inlet wouldn't output what had been fed to its right inlet), while the other was behaving fine. - And now I cannot create any new object. Ubuntu crashes (it logs out of my session) when i type the 4th letter in the object box. I also get the following message very often in the console : ALSA output error (restart failed): Broken pipe I'm very confused here. Pierre ___pd-l...@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Legal restrictions for apps
Hi Tony - I'm not sure, but I always thought you can distribute LGPL objects within commercial (closed-source) software. If I'm wrong about that, the next step would be to re-rwite the patch without using expr~ and not include expr~ in the product. (I keep it as an extern to make that easy to do.) cheers Miller On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 11:32:21AM -0600, Tony Hillerson wrote: Hey guys, I'm wondering about the restrictions for using Pure Data patches in Android and iOS apps with libpd. I have a rudimentary understanding that if I distribute software that's released under the GPL or LGPL I need to make available my source or at least the object files of my app. As I understand it, from the vanilla distribution contains [expr~], which is LGPL. If I use libpd, I'm distributing it, and I need to make the source or the object files of my apps available. Is that correct? Are there any paid apps that use pd and distribute through Google Play or Appstore? -- Tony Hillerson ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Legal restrictions for apps
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Tony Hillerson tony.hiller...@gmail.comwrote: Hey guys, I'm wondering about the restrictions for using Pure Data patches in Android and iOS apps with libpd. I have a rudimentary understanding that if I distribute software that's released under the GPL or LGPL I need to make available my source or at least the object files of my app. As I understand it, from the vanilla distribution contains [expr~], which is LGPL. If I use libpd, I'm distributing it, and I need to make the source or the object files of my apps available. Is that correct? Are there any paid apps that use pd and distribute through Google Play or Appstore? -- Tony Hillerson Hi Tony, I remember there has been some discussion on these topics (Appstore, expr) which you can retrieve searching the archives: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/ András ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Legal restrictions for apps
I agree that it seems like there's there's no prohibition on distributing LPGL objects, but it seems like unless I fork libpd and remove that extern I'm required to make my object code available as well. Is that other's understanding also? -- Tony Hillerson On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 at 13:04 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: Hi Tony - I'm not sure, but I always thought you can distribute LGPL objects within commercial (closed-source) software. If I'm wrong about that, the next step would be to re-rwite the patch without using expr~ and not include expr~ in the product. (I keep it as an extern to make that easy to do.) cheers Miller On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 11:32:21AM -0600, Tony Hillerson wrote: Hey guys, I'm wondering about the restrictions for using Pure Data patches in Android and iOS apps with libpd. I have a rudimentary understanding that if I distribute software that's released under the GPL or LGPL I need to make available my source or at least the object files of my app. As I understand it, from the vanilla distribution contains [expr~], which is LGPL. If I use libpd, I'm distributing it, and I need to make the source or the object files of my apps available. Is that correct? Are there any paid apps that use pd and distribute through Google Play or Appstore? -- Tony Hillerson ___ Pd-list@iem.at (mailto:Pd-list@iem.at) mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] need help with gem and glsl feedback
hello,
i think there is a game of life example in gem example/glsl folder.
this example show how to make a simple feedback.
you dont need to modifie the rendering, since you juste nead a redback after
the rendering.
but readback are ineficient.
example 07.framebuffer_and_shader show how to use 2 framebufer in order to use
1 to render the 2nd one.
this can be use to do efficient motion blur, or whatever shader you want.
but you have to modifie the rendering part : replacing gemhead by abstraction
that render in the same framebufer.
cheers
c
Le 03/10/2013 02:10, Py Fave a écrit :
Hello list ,
i'm currently trying to understand a bit more glsl ,
and am tearing my hairs
i have a scene with some moving geometry (torus)
on this geometry i use successfully a simple shader to plot a moving circle.
Then
i try to make the classical feedback effect , but i need to use glsl
because i want to control precisely the adding of the image at time
and at time+1
here is the feedback shader i try to use .
uniform sampler2D tex1,tex2;
uniform float motionblurstrenght;
vec2 coord = gl_TexCoord[0].st;
void main()
{
vec4 t1 = texture(tex1, coord);//new frame
vec4 t2 = texture(tex2, coord);//acumulated frame
gl_FragColor = vec4(t1.r);
float r = ((1.-motionblurstrenght)*t2.r) + (t1.r);//motion blur
gl_FragColor = vec4(r);
}
--
do you have a clean example or hints on how to implement this ?
i am currently fighting with gemframebuffer and pix_texture
and rendering order and texunits .
and i feel i'm missing something ..
i would like , if possible to keep this as an effect i can turn on and
off , without modifing my current gem chains .
i think i need two gem chains ,one early and one at last in the frame
drawing chronology , but i can't make it though i tried a lot
any help appreciated .
Pierre-Yves
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Re: [PD] need help with gem and glsl feedback
Le 02/10/2013 20:10, Py Fave a écrit :
Hello list ,
i'm currently trying to understand a bit more glsl ,
and am tearing my hairs
i have a scene with some moving geometry (torus)
on this geometry i use successfully a simple shader to plot a moving circle.
Then
i try to make the classical feedback effect , but i need to use glsl
because i want to control precisely the adding of the image at time
and at time+1
here is the feedback shader i try to use .
uniform sampler2D tex1,tex2;
uniform float motionblurstrenght;
vec2 coord = gl_TexCoord[0].st;
void main()
{
vec4 t1 = texture(tex1, coord);//new frame
vec4 t2 = texture(tex2, coord);//acumulated frame
gl_FragColor = vec4(t1.r);
float r = ((1.-motionblurstrenght)*t2.r) + (t1.r);//motion blur
gl_FragColor = vec4(r);
}
--
do you have a clean example or hints on how to implement this ?
i am currently fighting with gemframebuffer and pix_texture
and rendering order and texunits .
and i feel i'm missing something ..
i would like , if possible to keep this as an effect i can turn on and
off , without modifing my current gem chains .
i think i need two gem chains ,one early and one at last in the frame
drawing chronology , but i can't make it though i tried a lot
any help appreciated .
Pierre-Yves
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This example could help, see attached.
++
Jack
feedback_and_glsl.pd
Description: application/puredata
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.45-3 test 1 released
Thanks very much indeed. No rush! All the best, Peiman *www.peimankhosravi.co.uk || RSS Feedhttp://peimankhosravi.co.uk/miscposts.rss || Concert News http://spectralkimia.wordpress.com/* On 2 October 2013 16:53, Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu wrote: Yeah, I think this is working... I don't have time right now but will be grinding out a proper release eitehr tomorrow or Friday. cheers Miller On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 08:44:54AM +0100, peiman khosravi wrote: I'm on os x 10.7.5. Thanks Peiman *www.peimankhosravi.co.uk || RSS Feedhttp://peimankhosravi.co.uk/miscposts.rss || Concert News http://spectralkimia.wordpress.com/* On 2 October 2013 08:39, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-10-02 09:22, peiman khosravi wrote: I know this is only test. But any chance of a 64bit build so that I can which OS and architecture? linux on arm64? fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSS82zAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4ThsQAIEK8nveJtEbWam55/0E3pVk ryBSDrv82gcMZdwEuZOyi5tgyawRIbQ55bdmXX+RyiIy6swkEUlAsAys9CeLb2cR xk/e2PDMl1futqh5hbTqFDDtBvpNM3b/MAJzEynQCRSJr2uFPEdExp47SdeYtDUU i/2P7b68Wma33kjuiauNz0/aPMnHh9Qpr8GW4bK9eGIA7Eryt7JmCLwjDia3+tvn jSm5ETt76nhuksX9FRV+8C5Co3uBOnN59XjGW9W/ftVLxavXTR0EnnVGpJJisMOV 3PwtLtc2JGhmr/Ct3lVkCqPjnAbz8dRmRmA4hNeRho7/no56SGqE8DwKuL+Nwu/V x+QImY3j966d/oOC/JE5tFbhygpoicQG6es7DzLQrp4QjCvwvzia1RNq5BC+NHUX 7KQuEyUAw001NpcCfPaQ/kbOtyZVt9XvQb2UcYWbzIHD7Ls36OIUssBcloqXOUXw dkjJAjLo5SIkzbwYbJnTQwUdV+P1+vr6OH5PqVYJ4W6rTi1umMa+OFIIQQF3/wXz 3lg7DYLoBOleb5QuTdlsxxcX9QgmapmiCRq1Sx7bYX/6kek2ZmDRcW5WMkl+Pyxf BtJzmWyxeCurbnoeaeqfqx2U1/qvWovN5/wbXLkoc50Fa3no9FNd4ZaEwnmyRQWY wbJe9mNwdpQRGG0f+KhL =S7o6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.45-3 test 1 released
I have noticed one strange behaviour. The sample rate seems to reset to 44100 (from 96k), each time I quit and relaunch pd. Peiman *www.peimankhosravi.co.uk || RSS Feedhttp://peimankhosravi.co.uk/miscposts.rss || Concert News http://spectralkimia.wordpress.com/* On 3 October 2013 00:27, peiman khosravi peimankhosr...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks very much indeed. No rush! All the best, Peiman *www.peimankhosravi.co.uk || RSS Feedhttp://peimankhosravi.co.uk/miscposts.rss || Concert News http://spectralkimia.wordpress.com/* On 2 October 2013 16:53, Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu wrote: Yeah, I think this is working... I don't have time right now but will be grinding out a proper release eitehr tomorrow or Friday. cheers Miller On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 08:44:54AM +0100, peiman khosravi wrote: I'm on os x 10.7.5. Thanks Peiman *www.peimankhosravi.co.uk || RSS Feedhttp://peimankhosravi.co.uk/miscposts.rss || Concert News http://spectralkimia.wordpress.com/* On 2 October 2013 08:39, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-10-02 09:22, peiman khosravi wrote: I know this is only test. But any chance of a 64bit build so that I can which OS and architecture? linux on arm64? fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSS82zAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4ThsQAIEK8nveJtEbWam55/0E3pVk ryBSDrv82gcMZdwEuZOyi5tgyawRIbQ55bdmXX+RyiIy6swkEUlAsAys9CeLb2cR xk/e2PDMl1futqh5hbTqFDDtBvpNM3b/MAJzEynQCRSJr2uFPEdExp47SdeYtDUU i/2P7b68Wma33kjuiauNz0/aPMnHh9Qpr8GW4bK9eGIA7Eryt7JmCLwjDia3+tvn jSm5ETt76nhuksX9FRV+8C5Co3uBOnN59XjGW9W/ftVLxavXTR0EnnVGpJJisMOV 3PwtLtc2JGhmr/Ct3lVkCqPjnAbz8dRmRmA4hNeRho7/no56SGqE8DwKuL+Nwu/V x+QImY3j966d/oOC/JE5tFbhygpoicQG6es7DzLQrp4QjCvwvzia1RNq5BC+NHUX 7KQuEyUAw001NpcCfPaQ/kbOtyZVt9XvQb2UcYWbzIHD7Ls36OIUssBcloqXOUXw dkjJAjLo5SIkzbwYbJnTQwUdV+P1+vr6OH5PqVYJ4W6rTi1umMa+OFIIQQF3/wXz 3lg7DYLoBOleb5QuTdlsxxcX9QgmapmiCRq1Sx7bYX/6kek2ZmDRcW5WMkl+Pyxf BtJzmWyxeCurbnoeaeqfqx2U1/qvWovN5/wbXLkoc50Fa3no9FNd4ZaEwnmyRQWY wbJe9mNwdpQRGG0f+KhL =S7o6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Legal restrictions for apps
My approach with PdParty so far is: - GPL source code is incompatible with the Apple App Store due to the static linking requirement which means you cannot distribute GPL libs as dynamic libs which can be updated or replaced by the user - GPL patches are fine, they are text files which are not compiled into your app binary so can be freely replaced, I expose all of the GPL patches I use to the user so they can modify or update them to satisfy the distribution requirement of the GPL - I leave out [expr] [expr~] for now. The license in the expr src folder is LGPL, but the license in the source headers is GPL and the following is printed to console when first loading the external: expr, expr~, fexpr~ version 0.4 under GNU General Public License . I will leave it out until those parts of the code are explicitly changed. If this has already happened, then we need to merge in those changes to libpd. So far, as Miller suggests, I've been replacing [expr] with regular math objects. On Oct 3, 2013, at 4:12 AM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: From: Tony Hillerson tony.hiller...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] Legal restrictions for apps Date: October 3, 2013 3:17:37 AM GMT+08:00 To: Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu Cc: pd-list@iem.at I agree that it seems like there's there's no prohibition on distributing LPGL objects, but it seems like unless I fork libpd and remove that extern I'm required to make my object code available as well. Is that other's understanding also? -- Tony Hillerson On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 at 13:04 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: Hi Tony - I'm not sure, but I always thought you can distribute LGPL objects within commercial (closed-source) software. If I'm wrong about that, the next step would be to re-rwite the patch without using expr~ and not include expr~ in the product. (I keep it as an extern to make that easy to do.) cheers Miller On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 11:32:21AM -0600, Tony Hillerson wrote: Hey guys, I'm wondering about the restrictions for using Pure Data patches in Android and iOS apps with libpd. I have a rudimentary understanding that if I distribute software that's released under the GPL or LGPL I need to make available my source or at least the object files of my app. As I understand it, from the vanilla distribution contains [expr~], which is LGPL. If I use libpd, I'm distributing it, and I need to make the source or the object files of my apps available. Is that correct? Are there any paid apps that use pd and distribute through Google Play or Appstore? -- Tony Hillerson ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Legal restrictions for apps
On 10/02/2013 08:35 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote: My approach with PdParty so far is: - GPL source code is incompatible with the Apple App Store due to the static linking requirement which means you cannot distribute GPL libs as dynamic libs which can be updated or replaced by the user - GPL patches are fine, they are text files which are not compiled into your app binary so can be freely replaced, I expose all of the GPL patches I use to the user so they can modify or update them to satisfy the distribution requirement of the GPL - I leave out [expr] [expr~] for now. The license in the expr src folder is LGPL, but the license in the source headers is GPL and the following is printed to console when first loading the external: expr, expr~, fexpr~ version 0.4 under GNU General Public License . I will leave it out until those parts of the code are explicitly changed. If this has already happened, then we need to merge in those changes to libpd. So far, as Miller suggests, I've been replacing [expr] with regular math objects. And make sure that all the authors sign off on that license change. -Jonathan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [biquad~] as cyclone's [allpass~]?
cool, but do you know how to implement cyclone's [allpass~] with it? It's really unclear to me what is the relation of this pass filter with the one you can generate with biquad coefficients, or with raw poles/zeros objects for that matter. Well, one way or another, it's also unclear to me how to do it with delay lines. seems that it is related to a comb filter, right? cheers 2013/10/2 Chris Clepper cgclep...@gmail.com Allpass for reverb is easy to do with delwrite~ and vd~. I used 32 of them today to recreate a famous 'deep space' reverb. On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 1:53 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.comwrote: hi there, i see the biquad's coefficients can be set as an allpass filter, generated by frequency and Q parameters. But can it do the same as cyclone's [allpass~] filer? If yes, them how since the parameters for [allpass~] are different (delaytime and such). One way or another, I guess that my real question is: how to implement [allpass~] from vanilla objects? thanks ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.45-3 test 1 released
Hmm... this is even if you save 96K as a preference? Normally the sample rate defaults to 44K1 unless you change it and save the cahnge - but then I don't see why it wouldn't stick at 96K. But I don't think I have any 96K interfaces to try this on... cheers Miller On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 12:29:41AM +0100, peiman khosravi wrote: I have noticed one strange behaviour. The sample rate seems to reset to 44100 (from 96k), each time I quit and relaunch pd. Peiman ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Legal restrictions for apps
i spent quite a long time being bounced from department to department with apple, trying to find out if i could use expr in IOS apps, and they never gave me a definitive answer. Basically they told me i'd have to hire a lawyer to find out :p On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: On 10/02/2013 08:35 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote: My approach with PdParty so far is: - GPL source code is incompatible with the Apple App Store due to the static linking requirement which means you cannot distribute GPL libs as dynamic libs which can be updated or replaced by the user - GPL patches are fine, they are text files which are not compiled into your app binary so can be freely replaced, I expose all of the GPL patches I use to the user so they can modify or update them to satisfy the distribution requirement of the GPL - I leave out [expr] [expr~] for now. The license in the expr src folder is LGPL, but the license in the source headers is GPL and the following is printed to console when first loading the external: expr, expr~, fexpr~ version 0.4 under GNU General Public License . I will leave it out until those parts of the code are explicitly changed. If this has already happened, then we need to merge in those changes to libpd. So far, as Miller suggests, I've been replacing [expr] with regular math objects. And make sure that all the authors sign off on that license change. -Jonathan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
