Re: [PD] Wich licence?
Hey, it depends what kind of restrictions are you talking about. A program is free software when guarantees: - The freedom to run the program, for any purpose (freedom 0). - The freedom to study how the program works, and change it so it does your computing as you wish (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this. - The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor (freedom 2). - The freedom to distribute copies of your modified versions to others (freedom 3). By doing this you can give the whole community a chance to benefit from your changes. Access to the source code is a precondition for this. A GNU license guarantee all those core freedoms to all users. The restriction is that users have to apply the same license to anything they do with or from your software. They can also sell what they do with your software, but must ensure the same license is applied. MIT license, for instance, guarantees core freedoms (please, correct me if wrong), but allows users to change the license of their derivative works. Also check the LGPL. hope that helps, cheers, -- Marco Donnarumma Performer, body tinkerer, teacher and writer. #soundandmusic #biotech #freeculture EAVI - Goldsmiths, University of London ~ Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com Message: 2 Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 10:16:50 -0300 From: Mario Mey mario...@gmail.com Subject: [PD] Wich licence? To: pd-list pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: 52fe1742.5060...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I made a Multi-FX Looper called MEH-SYSTEM, posted in PD Forum: http://puredata.hurleur.com/viewtopic.php?pid=37430 I want to put a license to it. Where should I get information about types of licences? I don't think in any restriction... I only would want to know where, when, how and by-who it was used. Only that. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Receiving a compressed audio stream with PD.
Hi list :) I'm building a patch where I need to use 50 audio files. Each one is about 12:50 minutes, I encoded them as 16 bit, 44,1KHz, mono and in total they are taking about 3.3GB. I would like to distribute my patch packaged as a QT application using libpd and the total file size of the application bundle would not be practical for this. I guess this could also be encoded as a single 50 channel file. An option I'm considering is to setup a streaming or file server where the audio files would be available and the PD patch would start downloading the file or files, buffer and start playing when sufficient samples are available. A disk buffer for subsequent plays would be great. So my questions are: Are the components to consume a stream, buffer it, decompress it and get a signal outlet available anywhere as externals or abstractions or whatever? What would be the compressed audio format for something like this? Maybe someone can suggest a different, easier approach? Thanks! :) -- Rafael Vega email.r...@gmail.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Receiving a compressed audio stream with PD.
OK, I just found [oggamp~] which means I need to setup a ogg/vorbis server or something similar. I think I can handle that. Now, what do you guys suggest? A single 50-channel stream or 50 mono streams? I'm guessing in the latter option, I'll have a hard time trying to sync the 50 streams. Also, any ideas on how to buffer to disk? :) On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Rafael Vega email.r...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list :) I'm building a patch where I need to use 50 audio files. Each one is about 12:50 minutes, I encoded them as 16 bit, 44,1KHz, mono and in total they are taking about 3.3GB. I would like to distribute my patch packaged as a QT application using libpd and the total file size of the application bundle would not be practical for this. I guess this could also be encoded as a single 50 channel file. An option I'm considering is to setup a streaming or file server where the audio files would be available and the PD patch would start downloading the file or files, buffer and start playing when sufficient samples are available. A disk buffer for subsequent plays would be great. So my questions are: Are the components to consume a stream, buffer it, decompress it and get a signal outlet available anywhere as externals or abstractions or whatever? What would be the compressed audio format for something like this? Maybe someone can suggest a different, easier approach? Thanks! :) -- Rafael Vega email.r...@gmail.com -- Rafael Vega email.r...@gmail.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Wich licence? (MEH-SYSTEM on OSX)
I didn't run it in OSX, but I think it's OK. This person is right: On 14/02/14 22:42, pured...@11h11.com wrote: for [routeOSC] add [import mrpeach] somewhere (you need pd-extended). And ipoke2~ is a modified version of ipoke~ from Katja... as in the thread says, it is compiled for Linux 64. In the same thread, there is the code to compile yourself in you plataform. ipoke2~ is for overdubbing. You can not use it. Some conection problems is about not having objects installed (routeOSC, ipoke2~...). The expr divide by zero detected errors are at the inicialitation of a mmb object. Don't care about that. Tell me if you can use it. On 14/02/14 14:48, Pagano, Patrick wrote: Mario i looked at the MEH System and i would like to see if i can get it running. Does it work on OSX? IS There a place where i can get all the parts in one place? Here is my current pd window on OSX, looks like it's missing ipoke and some OSC stuff is not working correctly routeOSC /1 /2 /3 /4 /5 /6 ... couldn't create ipoke2~ $0-bank-array-r ... couldn't create ipoke2~ $0-bank-array-l ... couldn't create expr, expr~, fexpr~ version 0.4 under GNU General Public License [list2symbol] part of zexy-2.2.3 (compiled: Sep 22 2010) Copyright (l) 1999-2008 IOhannes m zmölnig, forum::für::umläute IEM routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /fader /allmid ... couldn't create routeOSC /1 /2 /3 ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /1 /2 /3 /4 /5 ... couldn't create routeOSC /1 /2 /3 /4 /5 ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /1 ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /fader /allmid /toggle /peak-xy /peak-q /peak-toggle ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create [wrap] part of zexy-2.2.3 (compiled: Sep 22 2010) Copyright (l) 1999-2008 IOhannes m zmölnig, forum::für::umläute IEM grid: version 0.8, written by Yves Degoyon (ydego...@free.fr) routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /1 /2 /3 /4 /5 /6 /7 /8 ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /0 /1 /2 /3 /4 /5 /6 /7 ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /fxDepth /hold /xy /xtoggle /fxgroup-select /fx-select ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /1 ... couldn't create line-int.pd 26 0 25 2 (trigger-line) connection failed line-int.pd 26 0 25 2 (trigger-line) connection failed [lister] part of zexy-2.2.3 (compiled: Sep 22 2010) Copyright (l) 1999-2008 IOhannes m zmölnig, forum::für::umläute IEM line-int.pd 26 0 25 2 (trigger-line) connection failed spigot~: a signal router : version 0.1, written by Yves Degoyon (ydego...@free.fr) sigmund~ version 0.05 udpsend ... couldn't create packOSC ... couldn't create unpackOSC ... couldn't create udpreceive 8000 ... couldn't create routeOSC /1 /2 ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /nada_aun /bank1 /bank2 /bank3 /bank4 /banksVol /cons-apply ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /nada_aun /bank1 /bank2 /bank3 /bank4 /banksVol /cons-apply ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /cancel /sample /resample /looping /overdub ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /a /b /bpmEncoder /beats /test ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /1 /2 /3 /4 /5 /6 /7 /8 ... couldn't create routeOSC /in-vol /in-eq3 /out-vol /out-eq7 /save-file /bank-vol /reset-bank-vol ... couldn't create routeOSC /1 /2 ... couldn't create routeOSC /1 /2 ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /1 /2 /3 /4 /5 /6 /7 /8 ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't create routeOSC /z ... couldn't
Re: [PD] Wich licence?
On 14/02/14 15:45, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: How would that be any different than spyware? -Jonathan Haha! Good point! Thanks everybody for the answers. I took a look to Matt Davey's DIY2 effects and he put no license txt file on its folder. Maelstorm mmb libraries have no license too... My patch is for everyone who wants to use it or learn with it. If someone finally uses MEH-SYSTEM or a modified version of it in stage or for a video or whatever... I would like to know it... only that! Maybe I leave it as is. Saying nothing about license... ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Wich licence?
On 15/02/14 20:53, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 16:52:58 -0300 From: Mario Mey mario...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] Wich licence? To: pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: 52ffc59a.4030...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 14/02/14 15:45, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: How would that be any different than spyware? -Jonathan Haha! Good point! Thanks everybody for the answers. I took a look to Matt Davey's DIY2 effects and he put no license txt file on its folder. Maelstorm mmb libraries have no license too... My patch is for everyone who wants to use it or learn with it. If someone finally uses MEH-SYSTEM or a modified version of it in stage or for a video or whatever... I would like to know it... only that! Maybe I leave it as is. Saying nothing about license... -- Hello, having no licence is probably not a good idea, as it's like enforcing the default copyright rules that basically give no rights at all ... (lots of code are practically not legaly usable on github for that reason f.ex.) the best would be IMHO to put it in (L)GPL and gently ask to downloaders to report use as a courtesy on the download page... have a good day, Ol. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] NYC Patching Circles Coming Back!
Hello All, Sofy booked two nights at NYU We changed the format slightly to include a moment for performance. Feb 28 at 6:30pm April 11 at 6:30pm The New York City Patching Circle is an free alternating monthly meeting and salon open to anyone who is working or interested in media programming and audiovisual performance. We mostly use Pd and Max/MSP, but all are welcome. Beginners and Experienced welcome. Open to everyone, students, the public, unicorns. Work on personal projects, professional projects, school projects, ask for help, help others, or just patch quietly to yourself in a room full of other people patching patches and helping other people patch. Each month there will be informal salon, featuring demonstrations of projects, performances and systems in the process of being built. The format will include short performances, artist talks about process and performance techniques and QA depending on time availability. The salon is openly curated with the intent of being as inclusive as possible and participation is open all practitioners working in realtime media. Start Spreading the Word! Sofy and Hans ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] NYC Patching Circles Coming Back!
Hi, I am off the point but there is no more pd-extended nightly built version? Regards, mdd -Message d'origine- De : pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] De la part de Hans-Christoph Steiner Envoyé : samedi 15 février 2014 15:15 À : pd-announce Objet : [PD] [PD-announce] NYC Patching Circles Coming Back! Hello All, Sofy booked two nights at NYU We changed the format slightly to include a moment for performance. Feb 28 at 6:30pm April 11 at 6:30pm The New York City Patching Circle is an free alternating monthly meeting and salon open to anyone who is working or interested in media programming and audiovisual performance. We mostly use Pd and Max/MSP, but all are welcome. Beginners and Experienced welcome. Open to everyone, students, the public, unicorns. Work on personal projects, professional projects, school projects, ask for help, help others, or just patch quietly to yourself in a room full of other people patching patches and helping other people patch. Each month there will be informal salon, featuring demonstrations of projects, performances and systems in the process of being built. The format will include short performances, artist talks about process and performance techniques and QA depending on time availability. The salon is openly curated with the intent of being as inclusive as possible and participation is open all practitioners working in realtime media. Start Spreading the Word! Sofy and Hans ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Wich licence?
On 02/15/2014 03:14 PM, olm-e wrote: On 15/02/14 20:53, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 16:52:58 -0300 From: Mario Mey mario...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] Wich licence? To: pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: 52ffc59a.4030...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 14/02/14 15:45, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: How would that be any different than spyware? -Jonathan Haha! Good point! Thanks everybody for the answers. I took a look to Matt Davey's DIY2 effects and he put no license txt file on its folder. Maelstorm mmb libraries have no license too... My patch is for everyone who wants to use it or learn with it. If someone finally uses MEH-SYSTEM or a modified version of it in stage or for a video or whatever... I would like to know it... only that! Maybe I leave it as is. Saying nothing about license... Skim the Wikipedia pages for GPL and 3-clause BSD, choose the one you prefer, and then you're done. Otherwise you create potential work for anyone who may have a use for your software to figure out what the terms of use and distribution are. It's probably not a big deal for a particular piece of software, and there are plenty of Pd patches out there that don't specify anything. But when you take, say, everything that exists on Github, the lack of licenses probably leads to busywork that eats up measurable amounts of time and effort. -Jonathan -- Hello, having no licence is probably not a good idea, as it's like enforcing the default copyright rules that basically give no rights at all ... (lots of code are practically not legaly usable on github for that reason f.ex.) the best would be IMHO to put it in (L)GPL and gently ask to downloaders to report use as a courtesy on the download page... have a good day, Ol. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
