Re: [PD] vanilla, extended, svn and x86_64

2009-09-23 Thread sergio basbaum
Hi all,

I'm new in this community. I helped a little bit to organize the PDCon 09 in
São Paulo, and Iḿ getting more involved with Pd since.

This is just to say that I've installed 64bit Ubuntu two months ago, because
I have a 64 Turion Acer notebook.

Nothing worked properly, so I've changed to 32bit version and everything
seems fine up to now. But the 64 version is very unstable, and for my
personal experience I really do not recommend...

best for all

s.

Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Pierre pie...@314r.net wrote:

 Hi dmotd,
 many thanks for yours explanations !


  - is there a simple way to have and manage differents pd (vanilla,
  extended, gui-rewrite) with differents versions on the same computer ?



 just compile without installing.. and launch pd from the command line
 using ./pd or something similar,

 ok

 I'll do that, don't install, and run ./pd from src directory
 because :

  for something more sophisticated choose a different install target for
 each build and build a script that chooses version at /usr/bin/pd


 I think configuring '--prefix=' at each compilation will be too confusing
 for me.


  - I would like to use the latest sources, nightly build was just fine  for
 me on 32bit



 better anyhow, the latest stable candidate of extended is not designed for
 64bit and needs to be heavily patched.


 ok , a bit sad
 but I'll continue to try to compile and use the 64bit build


  - but I also need to have a method to build a stable pd-extended release
  if the latests sources give me pd crashes (I do Audio/Video live shows  and
 performance and stability are very important on scene...)



 if you seriously want reliability then make a 32bit partition and install
 32bit ubuntu 9.0 (or better still try an older more tested version of
 ubuntu) besides a lot of array based objects that have not been thoroughly
 ported to 64bit, 64bit pd is not propperly tested and needs a bit more time
 and attention. for performance stability stick with the tried and tested
 approach.




 ok
 Until now I always used nightly-build or pd-extended release on 32bit, and
 I can easily come back to this solution :
 I have an other 32bit debian lenny on the same laptop,
 but I would prefer to use the same OS for test/create and performance...



  good luck.. if you seriously want to build for
 ubuntu 9.0 x86_64, be prepared for a bit of frustration.. heres some extra
 reading - albeit out of date:

 http://puredata.info/docs/developer/BuildingPdExtended64bitUbuntuIntrepid
 http://puredata.info/docs/developer/64BitLinux


 ok

 http://puredata.info/docs/developer/BuildingPdExtended



 I'll retry using theses instructions
 I read on this page that :

 Download the source package for Pd-Vanilla 0.42.4, extract it, and use it
 to replace the Pd core source in the Pd-0.40.3-extended folder. I did this
 as the 0.41 pd-extended core does not (as yet) have the 64 bit table bug
 resolved (tables are only read half way). Hopefully in the near future this
 step will not be necessary.


 I'll try this method and try with the pd's svn source as well


 thanks for your time and links !!
 It is a bit more understandable for me :)

 pierre




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Re: [PD] vanilla, extended, svn and x86_64

2009-09-23 Thread sergio basbaum
Hi IOhannes,

Maybe Iḿ too new in this so, I I haven't been able to find the solutions at
that time, but I could not make my wireless connection work, and PD extended
also was not working, and my memorie is that I've lost precious time during
the conference re-installing it to 32 bit and making it work.

Probably if I was more experienced it would have worked out better. However,
as un-experienced as I may be, when I installed the 32bit version everything
is working fine -- Iḿ mostly working on Ubuntu in all my activities,
including Pd.

best

s

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:23 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.atwrote:

 sergio basbaum wrote:

 Hi all,

 I'm new in this community. I helped a little bit to organize the PDCon 09
 in
 São Paulo, and Iḿ getting more involved with Pd since.

 This is just to say that I've installed 64bit Ubuntu two months ago,
 because
 I have a 64 Turion Acer notebook.

 Nothing worked properly, so I've changed to 32bit version and everything
 seems fine up to now. But the 64 version is very unstable, and for my
 personal experience I really do not recommend...



 what do you mean by nothing that worked properly? what did you change to
 32bit?
 ubuntu?
 Pd-extended?
 Pd?

 because i have been using Pd on Debian/amd64 for years and have not
 encountered so many problems that i would say nothing worked properly.


 fgmasdr
 IOhannes




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