Re: [PD] MIDI input problems in PD

2012-06-23 Thread Miller Puckette
OK... hopefully you'll get a better ride with the new 0.43-3test1... I'd
love to hear whether that helps or not :)

Miller

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 03:14:44PM +0100, Villa Anna wrote:
 Sounds very similar to my problem. I also think it's a buffer problem cause
 when I leave everything on overnight (unused), it still works perfectly
 fine in the morning. The problems occur after usage.
 I'll check out the tip from Raphael.
 
 Thanks!
 
 Laura
 
 2012/2/26 Ingo i...@miamiwave.com
 
  I had the same problem with Windows XP and a RME Hammerfall DSP card using
  only the normal [notein], [ctlin], [toutchin] and [pgmin] for a sampling
  synth. I don't think it's the midi interface. RME has some of the best
  drivers - very stable.
 
  Sometimes after a certain amount of time it started playing notes by itself
  and didn't seem to stop anymore. It sounded like notes or melodies that I
  had been playing before. Nothing random.
 
  Could it be possible that midi data is written into a buffer that does not
  get emptied anymore? Then something might trigger reading out that buffer?
 
  I couldn't recreate why it happened. Most of the time it didn't do it but
  every once in a while it did.
 
  I had no problem ever running Nuendo for days on that same machine
  programming midi. The same Pd patch was doing fine on a Linux computer
  after
  switching to Linux.
 
  Ingo
 
 
 
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   Miller Puckette
   Gesendet: Sonntag, 26. Februar 2012 00:04
   An: Villa Anna
   Cc: pd-list
   Betreff: Re: [PD] MIDI input problems in PD
  
   I haven't seen this problem, but I have to admit I don't think I ever
   ran MIDI into a Windows machine for more than 2 hours at a time (back
   when I acually used MIDI Windows itself wasn't stable enough to run for
   that long at a time :)
  
   It's hard to know whether this is the MOTU driver misbehaving in windows
  7
   or somethig with Pd itself - my only suggestion would be to try either
   (1) switching interfaces to something more modern than 828MKII or (2)
   try using some other software to see if the problem is specific to PD.
  
   cheers
   Miller
  
   On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 11:03:32AM +0100, Villa Anna wrote:
Dear list,
   
I have problems with Midi input in PD.
I use Windows 7 and make use of a Motu 828MKII soundcard.
I receive MIDI via a polytouchin object (make use of FSRs and a
  coridium
armmite to translate pressure on the FSRs to Midi messages).
All goes fine in the beginning, but sometimes after a while (f.e. 2
   hours)
my Midi input starts to be random (FSRs trigger that are not supposed
  to
   be
triggering). If I restart PD everything is back to normal. Any idea
  what
the cause of this problem might be?
It's an installation project so it is difficult to restart everything
   from
time to time.
   
Thanks in advance for your help!
   
Laura
  
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Re: [PD] MIDI input problems in PD

2012-02-27 Thread Villa Anna
Sounds very similar to my problem. I also think it's a buffer problem cause
when I leave everything on overnight (unused), it still works perfectly
fine in the morning. The problems occur after usage.
I'll check out the tip from Raphael.

Thanks!

Laura

2012/2/26 Ingo i...@miamiwave.com

 I had the same problem with Windows XP and a RME Hammerfall DSP card using
 only the normal [notein], [ctlin], [toutchin] and [pgmin] for a sampling
 synth. I don't think it's the midi interface. RME has some of the best
 drivers - very stable.

 Sometimes after a certain amount of time it started playing notes by itself
 and didn't seem to stop anymore. It sounded like notes or melodies that I
 had been playing before. Nothing random.

 Could it be possible that midi data is written into a buffer that does not
 get emptied anymore? Then something might trigger reading out that buffer?

 I couldn't recreate why it happened. Most of the time it didn't do it but
 every once in a while it did.

 I had no problem ever running Nuendo for days on that same machine
 programming midi. The same Pd patch was doing fine on a Linux computer
 after
 switching to Linux.

 Ingo



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  Von: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] Im Auftrag
 von
  Miller Puckette
  Gesendet: Sonntag, 26. Februar 2012 00:04
  An: Villa Anna
  Cc: pd-list
  Betreff: Re: [PD] MIDI input problems in PD
 
  I haven't seen this problem, but I have to admit I don't think I ever
  ran MIDI into a Windows machine for more than 2 hours at a time (back
  when I acually used MIDI Windows itself wasn't stable enough to run for
  that long at a time :)
 
  It's hard to know whether this is the MOTU driver misbehaving in windows
 7
  or somethig with Pd itself - my only suggestion would be to try either
  (1) switching interfaces to something more modern than 828MKII or (2)
  try using some other software to see if the problem is specific to PD.
 
  cheers
  Miller
 
  On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 11:03:32AM +0100, Villa Anna wrote:
   Dear list,
  
   I have problems with Midi input in PD.
   I use Windows 7 and make use of a Motu 828MKII soundcard.
   I receive MIDI via a polytouchin object (make use of FSRs and a
 coridium
   armmite to translate pressure on the FSRs to Midi messages).
   All goes fine in the beginning, but sometimes after a while (f.e. 2
  hours)
   my Midi input starts to be random (FSRs trigger that are not supposed
 to
  be
   triggering). If I restart PD everything is back to normal. Any idea
 what
   the cause of this problem might be?
   It's an installation project so it is difficult to restart everything
  from
   time to time.
  
   Thanks in advance for your help!
  
   Laura
 
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Re: [PD] MIDI input problems in PD

2012-02-26 Thread Pierre-Olivier Boulant

Hi,

I have the same problem. It affects several computers running XP, Vista 
or Win7 and several Midi controllers; either connected to a RME 
multiface or through USB (Korg NanoPad / Berinhger BCR2000 or BCF2000 / 
Akai LPD8). Mostly using CC, hardly Midi-notes. And most of the time I 
go through Midi-Ox and a virtual midi port (midi yoke) to merge all 
controllers before sending to Pd. Midi-Ox checks for looping and should 
be able to prevent it and my patches try to limit looping and Midi data 
flow too.


It does look like there is some overflow of the midi I/O buffers.

I tend to limit the flow of data outgoing with [speedlim] and have a 
separate sessions of Pd for the control/GUI and audio with the 
audio/midi properties set differently between the two sessions.


For me it happens after big rushes of data: if I instantiate all the 
parameters of a BCR2000 at once (over 100 parameters) at the same time 
as updating the GUI in Pd it's not that hard to overload the midi 
buffers and create this problem and it doesn't take two hours to crash 
then... :)
And if you send a lot of stuff from the controllers too then it can lead 
to the same issue.
I'm not sure it's only the flow of midi data, but it could be the Midi 
data plus a lot of processing in Pd, especially with GUI objects moving 
in response to the Midi input.


Re-instantiating the Midi-settings seems to flush the buffers, but 
sometimes it takes a reboot to make the problem go away once everything 
is stuck.


Cheers
Pierre-Olivier




On 26/02/2012 08:28, Ingo wrote:

I had the same problem with Windows XP and a RME Hammerfall DSP card using
only the normal [notein], [ctlin], [toutchin] and [pgmin] for a sampling
synth. I don't think it's the midi interface. RME has some of the best
drivers - very stable.

Sometimes after a certain amount of time it started playing notes by itself
and didn't seem to stop anymore. It sounded like notes or melodies that I
had been playing before. Nothing random.

Could it be possible that midi data is written into a buffer that does not
get emptied anymore? Then something might trigger reading out that buffer?

I couldn't recreate why it happened. Most of the time it didn't do it but
every once in a while it did.

I had no problem ever running Nuendo for days on that same machine
programming midi. The same Pd patch was doing fine on a Linux computer after
switching to Linux.

Ingo




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Von: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] Im Auftrag von
Miller Puckette
Gesendet: Sonntag, 26. Februar 2012 00:04
An: Villa Anna
Cc: pd-list
Betreff: Re: [PD] MIDI input problems in PD

I haven't seen this problem, but I have to admit I don't think I ever
ran MIDI into a Windows machine for more than 2 hours at a time (back
when I acually used MIDI Windows itself wasn't stable enough to run for
that long at a time :)

It's hard to know whether this is the MOTU driver misbehaving in windows 7
or something with Pd itself - my only suggestion would be to try either
(1) switching interfaces to something more modern than 828MKII or (2)
try using some other software to see if the problem is specific to PD.

cheers
Miller

On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 11:03:32AM +0100, Villa Anna wrote:

Dear list,

I have problems with Midi input in PD.
I use Windows 7 and make use of a Motu 828MKII soundcard.
I receive MIDI via a polytouchin object (make use of FSRs and a coridium
armmite to translate pressure on the FSRs to Midi messages).
All goes fine in the beginning, but sometimes after a while (f.e. 2

hours)

my Midi input starts to be random (FSRs trigger that are not supposed to

be

triggering). If I restart PD everything is back to normal. Any idea what
the cause of this problem might be?
It's an installation project so it is difficult to restart everything

from

time to time.

Thanks in advance for your help!

Laura



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Re: [PD] MIDI input problems in PD

2012-02-26 Thread Miller Puckette
Drat, I can't reproduce this yet... I don't have any real MIDI devices,
just USB keyboards that fake MIDI, so perhaps I need to track down an
old-fashioned MIDI device somewhere :)

M

On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 08:15:32PM +0100, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have the same problem. It affects several computers running XP,
 Vista or Win7 and several Midi controllers; either connected to a
 RME multiface or through USB (Korg NanoPad / Berinhger BCR2000 or
 BCF2000 / Akai LPD8). Mostly using CC, hardly Midi-notes. And most
 of the time I go through Midi-Ox and a virtual midi port (midi yoke)
 to merge all controllers before sending to Pd. Midi-Ox checks for
 looping and should be able to prevent it and my patches try to limit
 looping and Midi data flow too.
 
 It does look like there is some overflow of the midi I/O buffers.
 
 I tend to limit the flow of data outgoing with [speedlim] and have a
 separate sessions of Pd for the control/GUI and audio with the
 audio/midi properties set differently between the two sessions.
 
 For me it happens after big rushes of data: if I instantiate all the
 parameters of a BCR2000 at once (over 100 parameters) at the same
 time as updating the GUI in Pd it's not that hard to overload the
 midi buffers and create this problem and it doesn't take two hours
 to crash then... :)
 And if you send a lot of stuff from the controllers too then it can
 lead to the same issue.
 I'm not sure it's only the flow of midi data, but it could be the
 Midi data plus a lot of processing in Pd, especially with GUI
 objects moving in response to the Midi input.
 
 Re-instantiating the Midi-settings seems to flush the buffers, but
 sometimes it takes a reboot to make the problem go away once
 everything is stuck.
 
 Cheers
 Pierre-Olivier
 
 
 
 
 On 26/02/2012 08:28, Ingo wrote:
 I had the same problem with Windows XP and a RME Hammerfall DSP card using
 only the normal [notein], [ctlin], [toutchin] and [pgmin] for a sampling
 synth. I don't think it's the midi interface. RME has some of the best
 drivers - very stable.
 
 Sometimes after a certain amount of time it started playing notes by itself
 and didn't seem to stop anymore. It sounded like notes or melodies that I
 had been playing before. Nothing random.
 
 Could it be possible that midi data is written into a buffer that does not
 get emptied anymore? Then something might trigger reading out that buffer?
 
 I couldn't recreate why it happened. Most of the time it didn't do it but
 every once in a while it did.
 
 I had no problem ever running Nuendo for days on that same machine
 programming midi. The same Pd patch was doing fine on a Linux computer after
 switching to Linux.
 
 Ingo
 
 
 
 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] Im Auftrag von
 Miller Puckette
 Gesendet: Sonntag, 26. Februar 2012 00:04
 An: Villa Anna
 Cc: pd-list
 Betreff: Re: [PD] MIDI input problems in PD
 
 I haven't seen this problem, but I have to admit I don't think I ever
 ran MIDI into a Windows machine for more than 2 hours at a time (back
 when I acually used MIDI Windows itself wasn't stable enough to run for
 that long at a time :)
 
 It's hard to know whether this is the MOTU driver misbehaving in windows 7
 or something with Pd itself - my only suggestion would be to try either
 (1) switching interfaces to something more modern than 828MKII or (2)
 try using some other software to see if the problem is specific to PD.
 
 cheers
 Miller
 
 On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 11:03:32AM +0100, Villa Anna wrote:
 Dear list,
 
 I have problems with Midi input in PD.
 I use Windows 7 and make use of a Motu 828MKII soundcard.
 I receive MIDI via a polytouchin object (make use of FSRs and a coridium
 armmite to translate pressure on the FSRs to Midi messages).
 All goes fine in the beginning, but sometimes after a while (f.e. 2
 hours)
 my Midi input starts to be random (FSRs trigger that are not supposed to
 be
 triggering). If I restart PD everything is back to normal. Any idea what
 the cause of this problem might be?
 It's an installation project so it is difficult to restart everything
 from
 time to time.
 
 Thanks in advance for your help!
 
 Laura
 
 
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Re: [PD] MIDI input problems in PD

2012-02-26 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

Le 2012-02-26 à 13:11:00, Miller Puckette a écrit :


I don't have any real MIDI devices, just USB keyboards that fake MIDI,


That's a matter of ontology. What is reality ? I mean the real reality.

Politically correct Wikipedia instead calls USB an « Alternative hardware 
transport » for (real) MIDI.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIDI#Alternative_hardware_transports

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Re: [PD] MIDI input problems in PD

2012-02-26 Thread Ingo
I was using MIDI OX as well. I wonder if Laura did.
If yes, it could be related to MIDI OX as well.

Ingo


 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] Im Auftrag von
 Miller Puckette
 Gesendet: Sonntag, 26. Februar 2012 22:11
 An: Pierre-Olivier Boulant
 Cc: PD-List
 Betreff: Re: [PD] MIDI input problems in PD
 
 Drat, I can't reproduce this yet... I don't have any real MIDI devices,
 just USB keyboards that fake MIDI, so perhaps I need to track down an
 old-fashioned MIDI device somewhere :)
 
 M
 
 On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 08:15:32PM +0100, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I have the same problem. It affects several computers running XP,
  Vista or Win7 and several Midi controllers; either connected to a
  RME multiface or through USB (Korg NanoPad / Berinhger BCR2000 or
  BCF2000 / Akai LPD8). Mostly using CC, hardly Midi-notes. And most
  of the time I go through Midi-Ox and a virtual midi port (midi yoke)
  to merge all controllers before sending to Pd. Midi-Ox checks for
  looping and should be able to prevent it and my patches try to limit
  looping and Midi data flow too.
 
  It does look like there is some overflow of the midi I/O buffers.
 
  I tend to limit the flow of data outgoing with [speedlim] and have a
  separate sessions of Pd for the control/GUI and audio with the
  audio/midi properties set differently between the two sessions.
 
  For me it happens after big rushes of data: if I instantiate all the
  parameters of a BCR2000 at once (over 100 parameters) at the same
  time as updating the GUI in Pd it's not that hard to overload the
  midi buffers and create this problem and it doesn't take two hours
  to crash then... :)
  And if you send a lot of stuff from the controllers too then it can
  lead to the same issue.
  I'm not sure it's only the flow of midi data, but it could be the
  Midi data plus a lot of processing in Pd, especially with GUI
  objects moving in response to the Midi input.
 
  Re-instantiating the Midi-settings seems to flush the buffers, but
  sometimes it takes a reboot to make the problem go away once
  everything is stuck.
 
  Cheers
  Pierre-Olivier
 
 
 
 
  On 26/02/2012 08:28, Ingo wrote:
  I had the same problem with Windows XP and a RME Hammerfall DSP card
 using
  only the normal [notein], [ctlin], [toutchin] and [pgmin] for a
 sampling
  synth. I don't think it's the midi interface. RME has some of the best
  drivers - very stable.
  
  Sometimes after a certain amount of time it started playing notes by
 itself
  and didn't seem to stop anymore. It sounded like notes or melodies that
 I
  had been playing before. Nothing random.
  
  Could it be possible that midi data is written into a buffer that does
 not
  get emptied anymore? Then something might trigger reading out that
 buffer?
  
  I couldn't recreate why it happened. Most of the time it didn't do it
 but
  every once in a while it did.
  
  I had no problem ever running Nuendo for days on that same machine
  programming midi. The same Pd patch was doing fine on a Linux computer
 after
  switching to Linux.
  
  Ingo
  
  
  
  -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
  Von: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] Im Auftrag
 von
  Miller Puckette
  Gesendet: Sonntag, 26. Februar 2012 00:04
  An: Villa Anna
  Cc: pd-list
  Betreff: Re: [PD] MIDI input problems in PD
  
  I haven't seen this problem, but I have to admit I don't think I ever
  ran MIDI into a Windows machine for more than 2 hours at a time (back
  when I acually used MIDI Windows itself wasn't stable enough to run
 for
  that long at a time :)
  
  It's hard to know whether this is the MOTU driver misbehaving in
 windows 7
  or something with Pd itself - my only suggestion would be to try
 either
  (1) switching interfaces to something more modern than 828MKII or (2)
  try using some other software to see if the problem is specific to PD.
  
  cheers
  Miller
  
  On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 11:03:32AM +0100, Villa Anna wrote:
  Dear list,
  
  I have problems with Midi input in PD.
  I use Windows 7 and make use of a Motu 828MKII soundcard.
  I receive MIDI via a polytouchin object (make use of FSRs and a
 coridium
  armmite to translate pressure on the FSRs to Midi messages).
  All goes fine in the beginning, but sometimes after a while (f.e. 2
  hours)
  my Midi input starts to be random (FSRs trigger that are not supposed
 to
  be
  triggering). If I restart PD everything is back to normal. Any idea
 what
  the cause of this problem might be?
  It's an installation project so it is difficult to restart everything
  from
  time to time.
  
  Thanks in advance for your help!
  
  Laura
 
 
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Re: [PD] MIDI input problems in PD

2012-02-26 Thread Pierre-Olivier Boulant

I had the same problem without Midi-Ox too.

pob


On 26/02/2012 22:28, Ingo wrote:

I was using MIDI OX as well. I wonder if Laura did.
If yes, it could be related to MIDI OX as well.

Ingo



-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] Im Auftrag von
Miller Puckette
Gesendet: Sonntag, 26. Februar 2012 22:11
An: Pierre-Olivier Boulant
Cc: PD-List
Betreff: Re: [PD] MIDI input problems in PD

Drat, I can't reproduce this yet... I don't have any real MIDI devices,
just USB keyboards that fake MIDI, so perhaps I need to track down an
old-fashioned MIDI device somewhere :)

M

On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 08:15:32PM +0100, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:

Hi,

I have the same problem. It affects several computers running XP,
Vista or Win7 and several Midi controllers; either connected to a
RME multiface or through USB (Korg NanoPad / Berinhger BCR2000 or
BCF2000 / Akai LPD8). Mostly using CC, hardly Midi-notes. And most
of the time I go through Midi-Ox and a virtual midi port (midi yoke)
to merge all controllers before sending to Pd. Midi-Ox checks for
looping and should be able to prevent it and my patches try to limit
looping and Midi data flow too.

It does look like there is some overflow of the midi I/O buffers.

I tend to limit the flow of data outgoing with [speedlim] and have a
separate sessions of Pd for the control/GUI and audio with the
audio/midi properties set differently between the two sessions.

For me it happens after big rushes of data: if I instantiate all the
parameters of a BCR2000 at once (over 100 parameters) at the same
time as updating the GUI in Pd it's not that hard to overload the
midi buffers and create this problem and it doesn't take two hours
to crash then... :)
And if you send a lot of stuff from the controllers too then it can
lead to the same issue.
I'm not sure it's only the flow of midi data, but it could be the
Midi data plus a lot of processing in Pd, especially with GUI
objects moving in response to the Midi input.

Re-instantiating the Midi-settings seems to flush the buffers, but
sometimes it takes a reboot to make the problem go away once
everything is stuck.

Cheers
Pierre-Olivier




On 26/02/2012 08:28, Ingo wrote:

I had the same problem with Windows XP and a RME Hammerfall DSP card

using

only the normal [notein], [ctlin], [toutchin] and [pgmin] for a

sampling

synth. I don't think it's the midi interface. RME has some of the best
drivers - very stable.

Sometimes after a certain amount of time it started playing notes by

itself

and didn't seem to stop anymore. It sounded like notes or melodies that

I

had been playing before. Nothing random.

Could it be possible that midi data is written into a buffer that does

not

get emptied anymore? Then something might trigger reading out that

buffer?

I couldn't recreate why it happened. Most of the time it didn't do it

but

every once in a while it did.

I had no problem ever running Nuendo for days on that same machine
programming midi. The same Pd patch was doing fine on a Linux computer

after

switching to Linux.

Ingo




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Von: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] Im Auftrag

von

Miller Puckette
Gesendet: Sonntag, 26. Februar 2012 00:04
An: Villa Anna
Cc: pd-list
Betreff: Re: [PD] MIDI input problems in PD

I haven't seen this problem, but I have to admit I don't think I ever
ran MIDI into a Windows machine for more than 2 hours at a time (back
when I acually used MIDI Windows itself wasn't stable enough to run

for

that long at a time :)

It's hard to know whether this is the MOTU driver misbehaving in

windows 7

or something with Pd itself - my only suggestion would be to try

either

(1) switching interfaces to something more modern than 828MKII or (2)
try using some other software to see if the problem is specific to PD.

cheers
Miller

On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 11:03:32AM +0100, Villa Anna wrote:

Dear list,

I have problems with Midi input in PD.
I use Windows 7 and make use of a Motu 828MKII soundcard.
I receive MIDI via a polytouchin object (make use of FSRs and a

coridium

armmite to translate pressure on the FSRs to Midi messages).
All goes fine in the beginning, but sometimes after a while (f.e. 2

hours)

my Midi input starts to be random (FSRs trigger that are not supposed

to

be

triggering). If I restart PD everything is back to normal. Any idea

what

the cause of this problem might be?
It's an installation project so it is difficult to restart everything

from

time to time.

Thanks in advance for your help!

Laura


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[PD] MIDI input problems in PD

2012-02-25 Thread Villa Anna
Dear list,

I have problems with Midi input in PD.
I use Windows 7 and make use of a Motu 828MKII soundcard.
I receive MIDI via a polytouchin object (make use of FSRs and a coridium
armmite to translate pressure on the FSRs to Midi messages).
All goes fine in the beginning, but sometimes after a while (f.e. 2 hours)
my Midi input starts to be random (FSRs trigger that are not supposed to be
triggering). If I restart PD everything is back to normal. Any idea what
the cause of this problem might be?
It's an installation project so it is difficult to restart everything from
time to time.

Thanks in advance for your help!

Laura
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Re: [PD] MIDI input problems in PD

2012-02-25 Thread raphael . isdant

Hi Laura,

A workaround should be reinitializing the midi setup every minute or so.

Try the [get-midi-dialog] object (included in pd-extended0.42.5 from the hcs 
library), bang it to get the working midi settings into a message (see the help 
of [get-midi-dialog]). Then send this message back to pd every minute with a 
[metro 6].
It should work ok.

Raphaël


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De: Villa Anna w...@annaville.net
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Envoyé: Samedi 25 Février 2012 11:03:32
Objet: [PD] MIDI input problems in PD


Dear list, 


I have problems with Midi input in PD. 
I use Windows 7 and make use of a Motu 828MKII soundcard. 
I receive MIDI via a polytouchin object (make use of FSRs and a coridium 
armmite to translate pressure on the FSRs to Midi messages). 
All goes fine in the beginning, but sometimes after a while (f.e. 2 hours) my 
Midi input starts to be random (FSRs trigger that are not supposed to be 
triggering). If I restart PD everything is back to normal. Any idea what the 
cause of this problem might be? 
It's an installation project so it is difficult to restart everything from time 
to time. 


Thanks in advance for your help! 


Laura 
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Re: [PD] MIDI input problems in PD

2012-02-25 Thread Miller Puckette
I haven't seen this problem, but I have to admit I don't think I ever
ran MIDI into a Windows machine for more than 2 hours at a time (back
when I acually used MIDI Windows itself wasn't stable enough to run for
that long at a time :)

It's hard to know whether this is the MOTU driver misbehaving in windows 7
or somethig with Pd itself - my only suggestion would be to try either
(1) switching interfaces to something more modern than 828MKII or (2)
try using some other software to see if the problem is specific to PD.

cheers
Miller

On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 11:03:32AM +0100, Villa Anna wrote:
 Dear list,
 
 I have problems with Midi input in PD.
 I use Windows 7 and make use of a Motu 828MKII soundcard.
 I receive MIDI via a polytouchin object (make use of FSRs and a coridium
 armmite to translate pressure on the FSRs to Midi messages).
 All goes fine in the beginning, but sometimes after a while (f.e. 2 hours)
 my Midi input starts to be random (FSRs trigger that are not supposed to be
 triggering). If I restart PD everything is back to normal. Any idea what
 the cause of this problem might be?
 It's an installation project so it is difficult to restart everything from
 time to time.
 
 Thanks in advance for your help!
 
 Laura

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Re: [PD] MIDI input problems in PD

2012-02-25 Thread Ingo
I had the same problem with Windows XP and a RME Hammerfall DSP card using
only the normal [notein], [ctlin], [toutchin] and [pgmin] for a sampling
synth. I don't think it's the midi interface. RME has some of the best
drivers - very stable.

Sometimes after a certain amount of time it started playing notes by itself
and didn't seem to stop anymore. It sounded like notes or melodies that I
had been playing before. Nothing random.

Could it be possible that midi data is written into a buffer that does not
get emptied anymore? Then something might trigger reading out that buffer?

I couldn't recreate why it happened. Most of the time it didn't do it but
every once in a while it did.

I had no problem ever running Nuendo for days on that same machine
programming midi. The same Pd patch was doing fine on a Linux computer after
switching to Linux.

Ingo



 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] Im Auftrag von
 Miller Puckette
 Gesendet: Sonntag, 26. Februar 2012 00:04
 An: Villa Anna
 Cc: pd-list
 Betreff: Re: [PD] MIDI input problems in PD
 
 I haven't seen this problem, but I have to admit I don't think I ever
 ran MIDI into a Windows machine for more than 2 hours at a time (back
 when I acually used MIDI Windows itself wasn't stable enough to run for
 that long at a time :)
 
 It's hard to know whether this is the MOTU driver misbehaving in windows 7
 or somethig with Pd itself - my only suggestion would be to try either
 (1) switching interfaces to something more modern than 828MKII or (2)
 try using some other software to see if the problem is specific to PD.
 
 cheers
 Miller
 
 On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 11:03:32AM +0100, Villa Anna wrote:
  Dear list,
 
  I have problems with Midi input in PD.
  I use Windows 7 and make use of a Motu 828MKII soundcard.
  I receive MIDI via a polytouchin object (make use of FSRs and a coridium
  armmite to translate pressure on the FSRs to Midi messages).
  All goes fine in the beginning, but sometimes after a while (f.e. 2
 hours)
  my Midi input starts to be random (FSRs trigger that are not supposed to
 be
  triggering). If I restart PD everything is back to normal. Any idea what
  the cause of this problem might be?
  It's an installation project so it is difficult to restart everything
 from
  time to time.
 
  Thanks in advance for your help!
 
  Laura
 
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