Re: [PD] mp3: [WAS] Re: mp3 (layerII) or .wav/.aif stereo player!
- Earth will explode due to a massive attack by an uncontrolled number of mutant, mutiny lossy audio files! Well, not much to fear as they will be lossy-ing!! Enviat des del meu iPhone El 25/11/2012, a les 21:31, Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsut...@gmail.com va escriure: On 25/11/12 01:33, Björn Eriksson wrote: If you´re having an extremely boring saturday evening/night or sunday morning you can watch this video directly from Fraunhofer institute: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdRdTQVBxi4blend=5lr=1ob=5 Instructive, as it tells us that: - mp3 is the playmobil of audio (btw always loved lego much more than playmobyl because it's much more modular and thus somewhat more open) - quantity is much more important than quality these days - Earth will explode due to a massive attack by an uncontrolled number of mutant, mutiny lossy audio files! /Björn On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Òscar Martínez Carmona xamp...@gmail.com mailto:xamp...@gmail.com wrote: It's not *that* coplicated really, and many options have been suggested, guess the 'sensitive' thing is that OP ended his original message with: Anyways I'll be happy too if I can play an not compressed audio file like an .aiff or .wav but in stereo? how the f*ck I do that? Which is not probably not the best way to find concrete advice on a list :) I agree! By the way, that was my first post to the list, the whole thread has been interesting thought! On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsut...@gmail.com mailto:lorenzofsut...@gmail.com wrote: On 23/11/12 11:21, Björn Eriksson wrote: I think one of the reason one might have to be able to play mp3´s or ogg´s from inside a pd-patch can be that you´re working with some interactivity, thematic project for instance where one is sniffing the web for sounds. I regard mp3´s as usual as for instance jpg´s are on the web, speaking of some image analogy of compressed formats. I don´t like the licencing of mp3 though and would prefer ogg to be the main standard. Sometimes there aren´t time enough to do conversions on the fly to uncompressed formats before importing files onto pd. I can with other words imaging a number of situations which could call for a a playability of mp3 and oggs. Obviously, there are cases where mp3 can be an option, but OP mentioned exporting from logic. Of course withot further background it's hard to tell, and there are many cases. Soundwise we all know wave and aiff sounds better, but I am a bit surprised this seems to be a so complicated and sensitive issue about having pd play a compressed sound file with some ease. Maybe this has been discussed over the years over and over,so forgive me if this already stated somewhere about these things. It's not *that* coplicated really, and many options have been suggested, guess the 'sensitive' thing is that OP ended his original message with: Anyways I'll be happy too if I can play an not compressed audio file like an .aiff or .wav but in stereo? how the f*ck I do that? Which is not probably not the best way to find concrete advice on a list :) Lorenzo. /Björn Eriksson On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsut...@gmail.com mailto:lorenzofsut...@gmail.com mailto:lorenzofsutton@gmail.__com mailto:lorenzofsut...@gmail.com wrote: On 20/11/12 19:04, Òscar Martínez Carmona wrote: [readsf~] seems to be what I was looking for! I'm not sure about mp3 layers and names , but when that layer II file is what I get with an mp3 bounce with Logic... Why should you export to mp* from logic? That sounds rather insane unless you *need* mp* mp* are lossy compressed, and unless you have a precise 'aesthetic' reason to having mpeg-degraded audio quality simply export to a lossless format. That said there are probably thousands of converters out there from-to mp* to anything, google is your friend there. Lorenzo. Thank you both! On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 6:56 PM, chris clepper cgclep...@gmail.com mailto:cgclep...@gmail.com mailto:cgclep...@gmail.com mailto:cgclep...@gmail.com mailto:cgclep...@gmail.com mailto:cgclep...@gmail.com mailto:cgclep...@gmail.com
[PD] mp3: [WAS] Re: mp3 (layerII) or .wav/.aif stereo player!
On 25/11/12 01:33, Björn Eriksson wrote: If you´re having an extremely boring saturday evening/night or sunday morning you can watch this video directly from Fraunhofer institute: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdRdTQVBxi4blend=5lr=1ob=5 Instructive, as it tells us that: - mp3 is the playmobil of audio (btw always loved lego much more than playmobyl because it's much more modular and thus somewhat more open) - quantity is much more important than quality these days - Earth will explode due to a massive attack by an uncontrolled number of mutant, mutiny lossy audio files! /Björn On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Òscar Martínez Carmona xamp...@gmail.com mailto:xamp...@gmail.com wrote: It's not *that* coplicated really, and many options have been suggested, guess the 'sensitive' thing is that OP ended his original message with: Anyways I'll be happy too if I can play an not compressed audio file like an .aiff or .wav but in stereo? how the f*ck I do that? Which is not probably not the best way to find concrete advice on a list :) I agree! By the way, that was my first post to the list, the whole thread has been interesting thought! On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsut...@gmail.com mailto:lorenzofsut...@gmail.com wrote: On 23/11/12 11:21, Björn Eriksson wrote: I think one of the reason one might have to be able to play mp3´s or ogg´s from inside a pd-patch can be that you´re working with some interactivity, thematic project for instance where one is sniffing the web for sounds. I regard mp3´s as usual as for instance jpg´s are on the web, speaking of some image analogy of compressed formats. I don´t like the licencing of mp3 though and would prefer ogg to be the main standard. Sometimes there aren´t time enough to do conversions on the fly to uncompressed formats before importing files onto pd. I can with other words imaging a number of situations which could call for a a playability of mp3 and oggs. Obviously, there are cases where mp3 can be an option, but OP mentioned exporting from logic. Of course withot further background it's hard to tell, and there are many cases. Soundwise we all know wave and aiff sounds better, but I am a bit surprised this seems to be a so complicated and sensitive issue about having pd play a compressed sound file with some ease. Maybe this has been discussed over the years over and over,so forgive me if this already stated somewhere about these things. It's not *that* coplicated really, and many options have been suggested, guess the 'sensitive' thing is that OP ended his original message with: Anyways I'll be happy too if I can play an not compressed audio file like an .aiff or .wav but in stereo? how the f*ck I do that? Which is not probably not the best way to find concrete advice on a list :) Lorenzo. /Björn Eriksson On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsut...@gmail.com mailto:lorenzofsut...@gmail.com mailto:lorenzofsutton@gmail.__com mailto:lorenzofsut...@gmail.com wrote: On 20/11/12 19:04, Òscar Martínez Carmona wrote: [readsf~] seems to be what I was looking for! I'm not sure about mp3 layers and names , but when that layer II file is what I get with an mp3 bounce with Logic... Why should you export to mp* from logic? That sounds rather insane unless you *need* mp* mp* are lossy compressed, and unless you have a precise 'aesthetic' reason to having mpeg-degraded audio quality simply export to a lossless format. That said there are probably thousands of converters out there from-to mp* to anything, google is your friend there. Lorenzo. Thank you both! On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 6:56 PM, chris clepper cgclep...@gmail.com mailto:cgclep...@gmail.com mailto:cgclep...@gmail.com mailto:cgclep...@gmail.com mailto:cgclep...@gmail.com mailto:cgclep...@gmail.com mailto:cgclep...@gmail.com mailto:cgclep...@gmail.com wrote: A MPEG-1 LAyer II file is MP2 not MP3. You will need to find a player/converter for that. Maybe VLC? There are multiple ways to play .wav files with Pd - check the
